How to Build Great Product As A Start Up | Avi Arya |

Avi Arya talks about building products for startups, including how he created Zebra to help agency owners manage finances and operations. The conversation covers agency structure, client management, and using data to scale a digital marketing business.
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Thank you for seeing that because a lot of agency owners who listen to this show many times that has the go get a job find out what s happening in the industry and you know you learn there from the agency side or from the corporate site and you know what solutions to give when people jump in directly some time they have a problem figuring all this out and its okay some people can figured out but there is a cost of time motivation and everything because if you you do motivation hai im not able to figratoutso thank you for validating the fact that you came from a set up where you knew the right questions to as the right problems to solve and you cam in you were able to create you know a product a service that would want from the get.
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समथिंग निमेश यू नो यू from the first time that we met an over rs बीन कनेक्टेड how i view you i view you as somebody, who i open up your brain everything will be a one to the everything will be clear everything systematic in nothing unlike most agency oners which is all over the place so is that something you have developed a just how your dna was work things like in engineer and is there something you d like to share on how people can be a structure is you.
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To that level intersting i think on its a lot of time, you need to create that i love you need to have that that me time that thinking time just sound the liver but i say that you also need to feel a board you know create or what i like with time, we are not a loving or sells to get board, which means that we are constantly cimulating or mind and this is all thanks to social media right way, we are constantly looking at we are in patient we are there just keeping if you remain still break down right is a sin or are you see like you break down like it love it you you see like what happen to you like you are all it for more coming in the moment you know not doing it so that something that i think everyone need to that of trying to keep your self busy its not even bisi trying to keep your stimulas trying to keep yourself like thinking in folly thinking that if i dont do it i m going to be going behind a fall by its not like that you so this one motion that i think everyone needs to very consioslybrakand say that i need the me in that time you could be reading you could be just meditaton you could really be doing all rights, you need to tell all right you don at to be.
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Moving on that is fantastic all the agency owners who re getting as jargdupi⁇mgongto put the link over here just check out the software may be book a call with the team book a demo and that s the idea of getting ontraponorc who worked sans two thousand and eight to develop an agency and then understand the agency owners problem and find a ilution i would hilly recomend everybody was watching listning to this to to go book a call with the lincdemandyou check out zebra yourself this was fantastic definitely will request you to come back again may be in the next cuplmonswhatever because the so much the so much i mean this is the most selficinteview have done this year everything is for me some me in my target ordiencatthesam its helping everyone, but i m enjoying it so much because i taking not and i like i⁇mthinisgbecause taking notes back to the office in fact you t t t t tracer tolerate take an terminate im thinking in terms of team members who the one you tollaratingwho or your trasurswrthepeople you need to takulthohoworther people, who should just find the different pat.
About things made available to you everyone will have that mack of even taking a model and intrati very different way for the business i date the power of and thinking right you can take one thing and use it in a way which you being fit and that is what is like for your business that is the whole idea so thank you so much for having me over and a loving me to share on poutsandusofmin and you don to talk a bit about zebra so thank you so much for.
Is so underfulwhatlie said we are also doing we doing in agency ceres here and when the series finishes and we have fifty two people we going convert this into a different book not interant moguls of the world, which is coming avi adition every month, this is going to be digital rog stars of the world and this is going to be all agency owners fifty to agency oners one chapter फॉर again it going to go to five thousand agency owners, who are on our network, and these people are so that they can run better agencies you just having fun with the it does help me brand myself olitbititdeshep, we have a school call intenet moguls of the world, where i do antran offer of one year or program for mid sides ontrpnarsmaking five ten lakh ropes month and want to go to the next level out of them twenty percent of arclinsareagency owners way all these interviews and the book in everything for a brands me and understand who i am and of that, but i can be more targeted only to work those people if i just wanted the sas, but this is something you bot that zebra like you created this for time creating can not only be for yourself it has to be for everybody s, it has to be the other person say thanks for understanding my pain that the life or business stage that you an i are both on thanks to god names look forward to caching.
Up very very soon thank you so much real.
Take care thank you for reading the book by fan.
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Idea right now is to have one every year for the next five years by that time the girls will be gone up call into different colleges and that i dont know if this still be part of the venture, but till the are home and till the are motivated we going to do one book every.
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To no that i will definitely do that and in case sometimes you feel that the same interviews that your reading you want to see them internet moguls of the world is a u tube channel and all these interviews are live interview with those people a public, thersmhakyounimas lidisingenrman boys in girls that was nimassaveryvey very very all time frend mine, but somebody ou have respected deeply he nos the agency business, he nos how to pitch high tictclinche, how to build team and now his build a beautiful product i hope you like this interview मchएसआइडेड रिवाइन कीजिए इसको फिर से सुनिए 11 चीज को सुनिए नोट लिखिए और अपनी एजेंसी में अप्लाई कीजिए और कमेंट में मुझे बताना मत भूलिएगा what are the three bigest tak avas that you got go to apply in busness thank you very much for folloing t सीरीज अवारा मोटिवेटेड तो ब्रिंग the motivation to say yes you can do it together thanks for subscribing you in the next episode hy guys here thank you very much for watching this episode is so much fun bringing all of this to but one s it is difficult editing post production get people together but when you watch to the variant fees grads thank you very much now i m going to give you something and opportunity to connect with me in my eco system i have an email call worked with a vida at gmail com now what are the possibility of working with me number one if you are somebody s liking this content that i m putting out and i want to get into your coaching i want to get into your eco system i want to understand how this work i have a school call the internet moguls business school, the we have to program for atrip senmon email at work with the subject internet moguls business school and then cedmeabout your busness what or the challenges that a happy and accordingly one of a sales consltant will call you there you about your bisnsandfindlte connect with me and be the right fit to work together number to if you want me to consult with you just consulting one on one understanding your business giving your three month five work with avira subject consulting and then give me all the details about next if you want my agency to help you you could be a product of a service pochatranawhatever you anders to help a set up your get non geedgetsasetapaprop system the same thing work with avira and in the subject you will right agency help and indian tell me exactly what you want me to do for you and what are the chalanges fix and if you want to work with me in my team as a free dancer as part time full time you get into the team work remotly from any war in the world again work with a bra and say i want to join your team and then tell me about yourself ideal for all these thing video putin subject follow it with a nice micro video so i know more about you because i check every email myself and i love to get back to you and connect you with the right people in the right company s vention ven me to we have all these thing figer finally if you want to interview me for your podcast of your u tube chanel email me and podcasts with avira at gmail com so there you go to was to waise to connect with us work with avira and you got the multiple option and you got podcast with a bra and we can podcast to get so thank you very much for watching the videos dont forget to watch all these videos send me an email would love to hear from you thank you very much redis and german my name is a bra siding of for now look favor to seeing you in the next video theres link here which got all my email so you to get in do it on the link and get in the you look favor to hearing that email from you।
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