How To Lead A Healthy And Fit Life?

This is exciting. I have joined the meeting a few minutes earlier and in the next few minutes my dear friend Sayed is going to be here. He is Gary Vee's personal trainer, but he's somebody who built his brand one step at a time, one post at a time, one practical suggestion at a time. I'm very excited to bring him on board. I met him a couple of months ago. We had a chat around health and fitness and. And then we stayed in touch. I don't know what he's going to say about my Indian masala chai with lots of milk, but I am getting excited to have him on the show. Today is my anniversary, guys. By the way, it's my 21st of Feb. I was supposed to travel, but I said no. This year what I'm doing is I am now giving my time to my family and I've taken a conscious decision, which does not mean that I'm not going to focus on my work, which just means that I'm going to focus around my family. So what happened was yesterday that I finished my calls earlier by 11pm Normally I go to calls at 4am and then I woke up in the morning for my first very important call at 5am and I've been awake since then. So I'm working around it. You know, in life you have to. I don't think anybody wants a 9 to 5. Somebody who has a 9 to 5 wants a flexible environment. If you have a flexible environment like me, you say, oh my God, I wish I had something regimented. So stop complaining. I stopped that a few years ago. Yes, only a few years ago. And now I'm focusing on my family. And if anybody, if my message resonates with you, that family is everything and you have to build around everything around your family, then you know that health is equally important. So therefore, what we're going to learn today is going to be very important as well. Health from the one only from Sayat. He should be coming on in a minute. So till then, who do you think he's gonna choose? The Hulk or the Iron Man? We're gonna give him both the options. Let's see. Who do you think he's gonna choose? Let me know in the comment section below. Before, before you pass around and look at the show, who is he going to choose? I have a feeling it's gonna be the Hulk, but I could be wrong and I hope I'm wrong because it makes the show more interesting then because the audience wins. And that's what, that's the Idea, right.

Sam?

Lots of stuff happening. I just went live and I asked people questions and they asked questions. They sent me the question that they want to ask. Sayed as well. I hope I'm pronouncing the name right. I'm going to ask him again. Sayed is the name correct. Okay. In any minute 10am should be on anytime soon. I can recheck if there's an email. Yes, absolutely. Bang on time. How are you doing, my friend? Okay. I have to admit him first. Admit. How are you doing?

I'm good. How are you?

Good, good, good. Looking strong, my friend.

You as well, my friend. Where are you calling from? Are you in India right now?

Right now I'm in Vancouver, so I spend my time half in Vancouver and half in India. So I go back and forth.

I remember. Yeah, you told me so I wasn't sure where you were, but that's awesome, man. It's good to see you again.

Good to see you too. I've been, I've been, you know what very honestly reading your post more than really implementing them. So I'm slightly guilty about the fact that you're giving so much good advice over there and I'm not really taking it. I'm getting impressed by the way you're building your personal brand one post at a time. Busting those myths of saying no chocolate in the evening, no rice in the evening. You're saying go ahead, do what you want, but just make sure that your calories work out. Right. It was so interesting.

Exactly.

You know, you remember I met you with my daughter.

Yeah, I do. I very much remember that.

You know, she's so, you know, she's now 12 and you know, becoming more self conscious. So she has now she's lost about 10 kilos as a 12 year old. She needed to lose all that.

Wow.

But the other day, so she's gone, she's. She's gone. She's, you know, she's swinging like a pendulum. There was a time when she wanted to do all. She wanted to eat a lot. Now all she wants to do is eat nothing. So I showed her your post the other day about, you know, eat whatever you want as long as you're balancing the calories. And yeah really helped her. So she took a cheat day off yesterday. I couldn't convince her you're most good.

That's amazing, dude. I'm very happy to hear that. And if you need me to talk to her, I would be more than happy to have a discussion with her.

Oh, that would be, that would Be amazing because the thing is that right now we have slightly worried as parents because she's going through this, you know, phase of rebellion that only on the diet front so far. I don't want to eat anything and you know, we don't want you to go anorexic, unhealthy.

That's the whole thing. I know, like it's tough at any age, but especially for young girls in middle school, early high school, I mean in college in general, but especially at that age, it's very, very tough. So I'd be more than happy to talk to her or if she'd feel more comfortable with a female, I'm happy to, happy to set her up with that as well. But definitely she's gonna need support outside of parents. That it'll be, it'll be good. But are we recording? Are we going already?

Yes, yes we are. We edited on the way.

Awesome man. Cool. So. So let's dive into this, bro. How are we? What are we. I have no idea what we're really talking about. You tell me what we're doing.

No problem, no problem. Firstly, thank you very much for taking the time out. I know you have a busy schedule. We're now, we're now following you as much as we're following everybody else online. So everyone, we want to talk about a couple of things obviously. So I went live just a few minutes and I asked and I told people that you will be coming on the show. And I got a lot of questions from people. So we're going to dive into some of those questions. But I first wanted to know, am I pronouncing your name correctly? Is it Sayat?

Yeah, it's Sai. It's like the Hyatt Hotel but with an S. Uh huh.

Got it. I like that. I like the way you figured out the Hyatt with the rest. Got it. So Saeed. Got it. So Saeed, so tell us. You know, my, the first question in my show always starts with what's your story? So tell us about your upbringing, your best friend, your first crush, whatever you want to bring on to the show. You know, how did your story begin?

Well, so I mean usually it starts out with me telling about wrestling. I started wrestling when I was 8 years old. My mom suggested it. She suggested it as a winter sport because my brother and I, we both had spring and fall sports and summer stuff, but nothing in the winter. And when she first suggested, all I knew is like the wwe, WWF type stuff. So I was like, wait, really? Like you want me to Hit someone with a chair. She was like, no, you idiot. Like, this is Olympic style wrestling. And I loved it. I fell in love with it and it became like my obsession. Basically all I thought about from 8 years old on was girls and wrestling. And then by the time I got to high school, I made varsity as a freshman and I beat out a junior for the spot. And I had to cut a lot of weight. So I was cutting from 112 to 103 pounds at least once or twice a week to make weight. And I had to figure out essentially how can I get stronger and improve my endurance and lose weight at the same time? And that's really when I started to dig into fitness stuff. And I applied to my first personal training job as an intern at 14 years old. I was denied the first one and then I got the second one. Basically I was really upset I didn't get the first one. And my mom and I went back to my mom, really disappointed. And she was like, okay, like, what's next? And I was like, what do you mean, what's next? She was like, that was one try. Like there's a ton of other places. So I applied to another one and it turned out to be the best, best thing in the world. They were very science based. They took me under their wing and it was because of them that I really didn't spend any time wasted on pseudoscience bullshit. It was very much from the time I was a kid that they, they taught me the right way to train, the right way to eat. And so I worked from there from when I was 14 until the end of high school. And even after, after high school, I'd go back over the summers and work with them and. And then I started competing in powerlifting. And I was, fortunately, I fortunately did really well with that. I competed at, there's a gym called Westside Barbell, which is quite literally the strongest gym in the world. Their weakest guy squats 800 pounds.

So.

So I was, I was fortunate enough to be invited there with the owner, his name is Louis Simmons, for the summer after my freshman year of college. And that's where I started a website. Basically. One of my mentors, his name is JC Dean, he found out I was training at Westside and he was like, dude, you got to start a website. I was like, I don't know how to start a website or why I would start a website. And he was like, you just need to show people what you're doing and teach people how to train and give Them insight. So he literally bought my domain name for me and transferred it over. And I was like, what do I do? And he was like, start writing. And I was like, what do I write? He's like, doesn't matter, Just make sure it's good. And basically I just started writing articles, at least one a week, usually more. Making YouTube videos, Facebook statuses, Twitter posts, clout, LinkedIn, Google, literally everything. And that I could constantly. And I think probably the most important point for me to looking back is I didn't know I was starting a business. I was literally. I was just talking about, I was literally just making content to help people. I didn't know I was. I was making a business. And looking back, it's important because if I tried to be starting a business towards making money, I wouldn't have succeeded because I didn't make money. 40, 50, 60, should you have the same business plan? Right? Like, as you go build a business, your business evolves and it changes and your lifestyle changes. And maybe when you're 20, you can do whatever the hell you want and you can work all you want and not worry, but when you're 40 and you have more responsibilities, you have to figure out how to balance it more. So, I mean, as you get older and your body changes and you might get more allergies or you might realize something doesn't make you feel good, or maybe instead of trying to look good in a bathing suit, now you're more focused on just waking up without heartburn, right? So everything will change. And if the goal is fat loss, if that's the goal, if the goal is just to lose fat, then it will. And I moved to Israel. I spent a lot of time in Israel. I took a year off between high school and college, lived in Israel for a year, and basically I moved back and just worked for my computer. And then Gary Vaynerchuk, I got a great opportunity to be his coach because his previous coach had found my content online, and they invited me to coach Gary when the other coach was done. And now that's what I do. I basically coach Gary and then I do my online business when I'm not with Gary.

Wow, that's a great story. So you started young. You know what my favorite part of the story? Because I am so much. I'm 41 years old. I'm so much. I'm still so much of a mama's boy. I loved your story when your mother said, what's next? And you said, what's next? He said, yeah, it's just One, you just knocked at one door until your second door opened for you. For some people, it could be the hundredth door. For some people could be the first door. But you keep, kept knocking, right?

It was one of the best lessons ever. And my mom, she's strict, she's a hard ass, she doesn't take any shit. She's like very, very, like, she's very just blunt and she just go get it. And I think if it was, I don't think if it was for her, I wouldn't be able to do anything I've done. And it's funny, she will never take any credit for anything I do ever. And I was always like, why? Like, I like to give her credit. And she's like, nope, because if you fuck up, I don't want to take credit for that. So that's just her attitude. But I mean, she's taught me a lot about failure is not the end of it all. One failure is literally just the next step to getting to success.

And I was like, you know, let's see if you can get it right. Let's see who he's going to choose. A lot of people thought it's going to be this. And so it's going to be interesting. I knew it's going to be. I don't know why, but I just thought. I just had a feeling it's going to be the help. So I don't like to win beyond my, you know, above, over and above my audience, but I do like to win over and above my audience.

I love it. That's awesome.

So the healthcare, which one would you choose? It depends on which part, which. Which mind frame I'm at. If I want to bust through some of them, something that is blocking me, then I choose the Hulk because I just feel the Hulk just breaks through everything. And so this is sort of a patient guy. He's transforming one step at a time with Iron Man.

Got it.

I like, that's just me. And I'm so. I'm old school, so, you know, I don't have these powers that this guy has. It's more brute force. I love your wrestling part. I was, I grew up in a very. I grew up obese, so I did not take part in any sport. I didn't take part in. The only game that I became very good at was table tennis, which required at least. I'm 6 foot 3, I'm a really large guy. And everybody in my family, my father, my grandfather, everybody said that, you know, you have genetics to become a basketball player or cricket player or whatever. I did not have the genetics to get out of bed in the morning, so I didn't play any sport throughout. And all my life I've yo yoed with weight. And it's just now, recently that when I'm hearing, you know, people like yourself, when you started the interview, saying that I wanted to learn how to eat, right? So because most of us don't think that this is something you need to learn, you know, it's not a science, you know, why do I need to learn how to. It should work on itself, by itself. So that brings me to my second section, which is about, you know, how, you know, you. The best part about your post is that you're very subtly, without offending anybody, breaking all myths, or maybe I can say you're going getting back to the basic saying that, you know, what is the intake versus the out, you know, what plus and the minus in trying to balance out and all of that. So tell us, what is it at 20? My first question would be at 20, 30, 40, 50, and 60, do you have to have a different diet or the same formula works throughout?

Well, number one, it depends on your goals and what you want to achieve. So, I mean, usually what will happen is as you get older and as with everything in life, I mean, it's sort of like asking when you're 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, should you have the same business plan, right? Like, as you go build a business, your business evolves and it changes and your lifestyle changes. And maybe when you're 20, you can do whatever the hell you want and you, like, can work all you want and not worry, but when you're 40 and you have more responsibilities, you have to figure out how to balance it more. So, I mean, as you get older and in, your body changes and you might get more allergies or you might realize something doesn't make you feel good, or maybe instead of trying to look good in a bathing suit, now you're more focused on just waking up without heartburn, right? So everything will change. And if the goal is fat loss, if that's the goal, if the goal is just to lose fat, then it will always, always, always, always, always come down to calories in, calories out. That is, it doesn't matter if you're, if you're 22 years old or 82 years old, the fat, it will always be calories in, calories out. Now, as you get older and as your weight changes and muscle mass changes and metabolism changes, the amount of calories you need to eat will change for sure, but it doesn't take away the fact that if you're eating too many calories, you'll gain fat. And if you're in, if you're eating fewer calories than your body needs, you'll lose fat. That's a fact. And you can't get away from it. So from a fat loss perspective, your, your calories, the calorie in, calories out always holds true. But from a different lifestyle perspective, like you can eat different foods, you can change like the frequency in which you eat. You can, there's a lot that you can vary so long as within that you're, you're within your calories.

So tell me when it comes to that. So a lot of people I see, I've literally witnessed a lot of people drop a lot of weight by wiping off rice or carbs from their diet. Just wiping it off. That's one. The other thing I've seen is a lot of people have lost genuine weight by not eating after say seven in the evening. So now how does that correlate to calories in versus calories out? Can I eat at 12 at night and then go to sleep right after, even if my calories are totally imbalanced?

100%? Absolutely. You can eat any time of day you want. It doesn't. Calories, 200 calories at 2pm are the same as 200 calories at 2am, right? It's calories, a calorie. And a lot of people, one of the myths will be, well, like when you're sleeping, you're not burning it off. It's like, no, that you're still burning it off, you're just sleeping. The reality is people often look at the body as though it just, everything happens in brief moments. And then your body. Actually our bodies are very smart. They're very, very, very smart. And one of the most common things that I go back to is if eating late at night inherently made you fat. If we went back to our ancestors when, number one, they weren't eating six small meals throughout the day, they didn't have a pantry stocked with food that you can go eat anytime they wanted. And they were hunting and like they would, they would have one big kill and they'd often eat it at night after a day of hunting and they would, they would eat like a massive meal feast late at night. Why didn't they get fat like that? It's, if that was true, that eating late at night automatically made you fat, that's just not how the Body works. And then from the perspective of, I mean, there's actually, if you really want to look into it, there's a lot of research on something called intermittent fasting, which is essentially the, like, the, there's a lot of ways to do it, but the intermittent fasting is basically you don't eat breakfast, but the, the, the length at which you fast every day changes based on the method you use. But it just, it allows you to not eat in the morning when some people, a lot of people aren't hungry in the morning, but they feel like they have to because they've been told that breakfast is the most important meal of the day when it. For some people it is, but for some people it isn't. And so, no, when you eat doesn't matter so long as you're doing it in a way that whenever you eat, you feel good and it allows you to eat in a way that feels comfortable and stick to your calories.

I like that you're putting it so simply. And again, like I said, it's breaking myths in my head. Tell me. So you were brought up by a very loving yet a very strict mother who had a regimented lifestyle for her child, who was bodybuilding and wrestling. So did she have a regimen for you saying that sai you need to have healthy breakfast and sleep on time, don't eat before you sleep and all of that? And did those things change over time?

You know, it's funny, with everything, she was very regimented in terms of making sure I did my homework, making sure I would go to bed at a certain time, making sure like X amount of TV per week, like, making sure like, she was very good. The one thing that she didn't pay too much attention to is my nutrition. And I'm actually the only one in my entire family who pays attention to my health. Like, everyone else is actually pretty overweight. They don't really do any sports or nutrition or anything. And I was very lucky that I was. I'm genetically blessed in that I'm an athlete. I was born into being an athlete. And thank God, because what people do is they, they like what they're good at, right? If you, if you're good at something, you'll like it and you'll do it. And I was fortunate to be very coordinated, very fast, very athletic. And so I went to athletics and I was awful in school. I hated school, hated studying. I was terrible at it. I was in special education classes. So any chance I got, I would do an athletic event rather than school event. And I was. I mean, there are stories. My mom will always tell me stories. When I was a kid, we're at a birthday party, they'd be handing out cake. And this is before I know anything about health. Like, I was not really brought up in a health conscious house. I didn't know anything. And they'd be handing out cake and I would literally just be like, I don't really want any just because I didn't like it. And I would instead ask for watermelon or fruit. Not because of health, literally, just because I enjoyed it more.

So.

And my mom, she would always laugh. She told me she was like, what kid says no to cake and asks for fruit? Like, I was the only one in the. So it was very lucky that I fell into that. And I thank God and I'm very blessed. And I also, I'm very grateful that my mom didn't force me to have the cake. I know a lot of parents would do that. So she, she wouldn't force me to have it. She'd be like, great, like, I'll have it or whatever, like, good for you. I wish I had that type of discipline. And, and so that's sort of how that happened. But I think that what happened was as I progressed as an athlete and did more as an athlete, the more I became regimented with it myself because I learned how to be regimented from what she had done otherwise.

Got it. Interesting. So that's what my daughter is going through, that she's going to parties and she's not eating anything and she's coming, but she's feeling guilty about it. So I want her to get. So I will, you know, I'll take you up on that offer to maybe have a chat with her on that because.

Let me talk to her. There's a lot that goes on at that age too, especially with parties and especially man. Girls are. They're brutal. I mean, guys are tough, but girls are brutal.

Sure.

I've. Most of my clients are women. I've worked with literally thousands and thousands of women. And there's a lot that men don't know that goes on behind the scenes. And I know for a fact a lot of young girls, they won't eat. Not because they aren't hungry and not because they don't want to, but because they feel like the other girls are judging them. Because there's like this already this standard that women are supposed to look a certain way. I can almost guarantee you she's feeling pressured in some sense.

Sure.

And she might feel Uncomfortable talking to her parents about it. Not because you're not a great parent, just because it's not always easy to talk to your parents.

100%. 100%. I agree with that. Yeah. So, yeah, we'll get to that. And that would help her a lot. So to tell me, I just want to dig deeper into this because this is something a lot of people want to know. So what about those people who've lost weight just by giving up rice or not eating after 8 o'?

Clock?

So is that temporary weight loss or do you think that not an isolated move, they did that plus counting all the calories?

Well, no. So the thing is, what I always say is calories always count, but you don't need to count calories, if that makes sense. Like, just because every calorie counts doesn't mean you can't lose weight not counting them. It just means that you could literally be in a calorie deficit without counting them. So it's sort of like saying that, well, this person didn't eat after eight and they lost weight. So eating after eight means. Or eating after eight means is bad for you or you'll gain weight. It's correlational, it's not causational. It doesn't mean anything definitive. It's like, well, great, that person didn't eat after 8 and they lost weight.

That's cool.

But there are other people who eat any time of night and they'll lose weight as well, as long as their calories are in check. And if you think about it, by putting a time limit on which you stop eating, you will inherently eat less calories. Right. So let's say someone says, after eight, I'm done. They have their dinner and they might have a small dessert. Eight o', clock, boom, I'm done. Whereas if they hadn't set that stop, maybe they would have had another 300, 400, 500, 1,000 calories. A lot of people will eat a lot at night and not realize it. And they could have prevented themselves eating another 500 calories. You do that on a consistent basis, you'll gain weight. So it might just be that they were eating less calories. Right, that makes sense.

You know, I've always seen that the time that I lose weight is the time that the times in my life when I get more sleep and if I'm not sleeping, something happens. If my workout stops, you know, stops working, I'm working out, but it doesn't work. And I need to get a few good hours, good days of continuous sleep. And then the body sort of drops the bounds.

Well, let me ask you this. What are you doing during the times that you're not sleeping? Are you working?

I'm. I'm on these kind of calls with my different offices all the time.

Got it. So. Well, so like, during the times in your life where you notice that you're not sleeping as much, is it because you're working more? Is that it?

Yes.

Got it. And so could it be that while you're working more, you might also be eating a little bit more? You might like, whether it's stress eating or maybe you're having a drink or something? Maybe you might not even realize it.

Now that you mentioned it.

Yeah, a little bit here and there and that. And then not to mention that. But then you'll be tired because you didn't get as much to sleep, and then you won't work out. And now all of a sudden you're not burning as many calories and you're eating a few more, and that's enough to tip the scale.

Okay. Okay. So God is in the details.

It's all in the details. And it's funny because most people who struggle to lose weight, but they're doing a lot of things right, they, they mainly focus on what they're doing, right? And they forget not. It's not conscious, it's subconsciously. They forget how many little things they're doing that will add up to it, not to not making progress. They'll be like, well, yeah, I mean, I snack here and there. I might have a handful of nuts. But if you actually calculate how many calories are in their nuts, like they're having 400, 500 calories worth of nuts in a day. When most people hear that, they're like, no, no, that's bullshit. But then when they actually weigh it out and look, they say, oh my God, I was literally eating an entire extra meals worth of calories and nuts. And they didn't even think about it.

Right. That is so powerful.

I'll never forget this story. I had one client, his name is Jerry, he's still a client. He's been a client of mine for over five years online. And in the first three months, he was struggling a lot to lose weight. He actually, he initially lost about 10 or 12 pounds. He was doing great. And then he was stuck for several months. He wasn't losing weight. And I always start people on the minimum effective dose in terms of I don't want to do too much. Like, I want to just be a minimum amount so if they're, if they're making an error in their calories, it could very easily stall them out. And he was saying, are you sure you're tracking everything and going over everything? And he was like, man, this isn't working, blah, blah. And finally we realized he was not counting the cream that he was putting in his coffee every day. He would have one large coffee from Dunkin Donuts and just a black coffee. It'd be nothing. The cows would be negligible. But to make large coffee light with cream, he was adding over 200 calories worth of cream every day. And he didn't realize it once he started tracking that. Now he started losing weight, like pop. Wow.

So it's as minute as that. Yeah, you're absolutely right. That's what my wife sometimes says, that you're not counting so many calories, but the body is here and there. Okay, so this is making a lot of sense. I'm just going to put out some of the questions from the live chat that we did. People were very interested to have, you know, to have you on the show. And so, yeah, are supplements necessary? And how do we know if a supplement is working for us?

Absolutely not. Supplements are 100% not necessary. The way I like to explain, supplements are. Let's just look at the word. See supplement. And we're going to break that down. Supplements are meant to be supplementary, Right? They're like, when you have everything else perfect, then you can add what is supplementary to your perfect regimen. So the way I always phrase it is if you are not going to the gym consistently at least three days a week, every week, for two years straight, and if you are not eating within your calories, like consistently 80% of the time for two years straight, you have no business taking supplements. There's no reason to. There's no reason to. You have to earn the right to use supplements. Because the only people that supplements are really going to help are the people who are at a very high level of fitness and have something to gain by the teeny little bit that they actually do offer. Because if you are not in that level of advanced training, advanced nutrition, they're going to do nothing because you're not doing enough to actually make it work.

Wow. I've never heard that before. It's so powerful. I think what most people do is, including myself, it just feels nice and fancy. You see all these beefed up guys having supplements, you're like, I need to have that. Just having the supplement makes you feel good about yourself. But the Supplement in itself, now that I'm thinking has a lot of calories as well.

Right.

Interesting. So. And so this question was from, you know, this guy's from Meenak. Yeah. This guy's from India, and he said, you must feature my question. So, yes, I did. We have a couple of them, but I'm gonna go.

Yeah.

So there's another lady with a similar name. She says, I have gynecomastia. You know what that is?

Yeah.

Okay. It's caused due to thyroid and hormonal imbalance. So is it treatable via exercise?

This is a woman who has that or a male?

This is a male, yeah.

Okay. So he needs to see a doctor about that.

Okay.

I don't. I don't know what. What he's taking. I don't know if he's doing anything with drugs or anything. But that's a very common issue when people are taking drugs without. Not supervised by a doctor. It's not treatable with exercise. You need to see a doctor.

Got it. And then we have one more question, which is, please advice for getting rid of cellulite toning and feeling energetic at 51. I've never exercised before. How should I start?

So the question is, I've never exercised before. How do I start? The first thing I want to say is go to Google and type in cellulite science, fitness and YouTube, and my video on cellulite is going to come up. It is very, very important because the way that the fitness industry tries to sell creams and exercise programs and products towards cellulite, they sell it. They try and sell it in a way that says cellulite is number one. They make it seem like it's a bad thing. Cellulite, I think it's. 97% of women have cellulite.

Mm.

97% of women have cellulite. And it's. It's. For whatever reason, portrayed as this, like, ugly, weird thing. Meanwhile, almost everyone has it, like, every single person. So, number one, it doesn't look gross. It's not bad. It is part of who you are. It's beautiful. So that's number one. And number two is you can't treat cellulite. You can't. You can't fix it. There's no cream that's gonna get rid of it. There's no exercise program that's gonna eliminate it. Anyone who tells you that is lying to your face. Tell them to show you the research that supports it. They won't be able to show it to you because it doesn't exist. If they give you an article that someone else wrote, fuck them. They need to show you an actual legitimate scientific research paper and I can tell you it doesn't exist. So that's number one. Number two is starting exercise as a beginner. If you've never done anything, something is always better than nothing. Always, always, always. So if that means starting with a 10 minute walk a couple times a week, great. If that means starting by like taking soup cans and lifting them up and like just doing like three sets of ten, I would rather you do that than nothing at all. But something as simple as going to, like, literally you could do it at home. You could just do squats at home with your body weight. Squats at home. You could do push ups at home. If you can't do push ups on the ground, elevate your hands, put them on a table so you're higher up at an angle. It makes them easier, but it doesn't matter if they're easier. Like, that's, that's a good thing. You should do it with good range of motion, good technique until you can work your way down to the floor and do that. You can always, always, always, always do something.

This is amazing. You know, before we get to the next section, I wanted to say, while I'm talking to you, you know, you're such a different person now. I just, I remember, you know, the first time I saw you was on the. I think it was on the one of the Ask Gary Vees where you, Gary, asked you to everyone and you said, you know, repeat everybody's name again and you did it.

Oh, man, that was, that was my first time on his show and I was so nervous. Yeah, I was so nervous when he did that. It's funny, realistically, if he made me do that again, I think I'd be equally as nervous. It's amazing. He puts you on the spot in front of millions of people. He's like, all right, here's like six people that you've never met. Say their names. I'm like, well, this is embarrassing.

I'm just saying your screen, screen presence, if I can call it that, from then to now, is just so different. I mean, I just love. I mean, obviously I'm talking about your subject. This is your subject. You're owning it. And I'm loving every single bit of it because this is one of the. You know, it's not right for me to single out one show amongst the others because every guest who comes in has given me their precious time. But I'm enjoying this the most because I'm relating it to myself more than most. So my story is always. Because I've always yo yoed and I've yo yoed so much, like 10 to 15 kilos at a given time. So every summer I lose weight and every winter I put it back. Every. Actually, it's opposite I put on in summer and I. I lose the weight in the winter now, so. And it's so funny. And I'm being vulnerable on the show. So if I'm meeting somebody, somebody like, hey, what happened to you? I don't know when I met him last. So is he saying, I've lost weight or. So it's that dramatic and I'm fed up of this. And when I go back, I'm like, okay, so I used to have a lot of wine over the weekend. I drink once a week. So I have a lot of. I have a bottle of wine with my friends, four or five glasses. So it's a vintage in the bottle, but you don't take it as a bottle, like four, three glasses of wine, large glasses or whatever. So then I completely cut off my wine and I stopped going out because I'm not drinking. I stopped going out and I lose the weight. I feel powerful, I feel amazing. Then I start going back out again and it comes back. And now I'm 41 and I'm tired of giving up things to do well. So I just want to do something which is, even if it takes longer, I just want it to work long time over the long term.

And I.

And I see so many people on the Internet who struggling with a similar issue. And that's why I thought I should be vulnerable and, you know, just talk about my weight on the show because I'm sure it will help me and it'll help others as well. So I'm working out now five to six times a week. I just started again about a month and a half back and with this consistency. And I love what you said, that unless you're doing it for two years, you have no business to ask why I'm not getting results and all of that. So I'm trying to be as consistent as possible and then just leave it to that. But there's some days you just. I don't know if you've ever struggled with a weight issue, but there's some days you just feel that this is never working. And there's some days you're like, I'm looking amazing. And for me, I've gone to levels of fitness that Nobody could imagine me getting to. And then I ballooned back. So it's what happened?

Tell me like what happens when, like when you were doing that and you got to such a high level of fitness, what happened where you ended up going off track, like, what happened?

It's just you. I just feel strong, invincible. And I just feel that the urge to go to the gym is not as much because I don't need to do it. So I take a few days off and I indulge and then that sort of spirals me downwards. It's. It's crazy.

So let me ask you this. When you indulge, do you then feel guilty about it? Is it like, oh, shoot, like I screwed up type thing? Or is it more just like, what do you feel like after you indulge?

I don't feel guilty because I'm in that level of fitness that, you know, it's not really showing. I start feeling bad when it starts showing. So I push myself to that level and then I'm like. But I never backtracked and looked at patterns. You know, I always looked at isolated events or saying, this month was this or that month was this. But I now realize why they're talking to you the first 20 minutes when you spoke about things, I'm thinking to myself that the calories go up, the workout goes down and so there is no 24 month period of consistency.

Yep. And I mean, like, you know better than anyone, if you, if you did that with business, you, you'd be screwed. Right. If you went, if you went all in on your business for a couple months and then you're like, ah, fuck it, and took a couple months off, like you wouldn't have a business. Right. It's constant. You got to be consistent with it. And that business and fitness go hand in hand in terms of analogies for each other. It's really, it's incredible. And that's essentially why Gary, he decided to make his, he treated his fitness like a business where he was like, I'm going to hire someone, I'm going to. And like, he has that ability. But being able to have that mindset of treating it like a business where, listen, like, this is what I have to do now. What I will say is one thing that any smart business person will do is they'll understand their strengths and their weaknesses. They'll understand what's realistic and what's not realistic. And how many days a week did you say you're going to the gym right now?

At least five.

Well, let me ask you this. Do you think you could go five days a week, every week for three years straight?

I don't. I don't.

That was your answer. That's your answer right there before you even said anything. That's your answer. Which means that you need to make a change now before you get to the point where you're burned out and you don't want to go anymore. Because if you continue with this, you will burn out and you will go back. If you doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, we all know that it's insane. It's literally insane. So why would you try it again when you know it's going to screw it up? So what I would say is do it three times a week. Go to the gym three times a week, and that way you're not pressured to get with like those five different days in every week, do three days. You could do one lower body, one upper body, one full body. That's plenty. And then if you want to do extra sessions because you feel motivated, because whatever, by all means, go for it, but they are not required. There's three required days a week. That's it. And I guarantee you it'll be more sustainable and you'll have more motivation to go to the gym. In the same way that, like, when you're told to do something, you have to do this. A lot of the times you're like, fuck you, I'm not gonna do it.

Right. But do it with hot fasted.

Yeah, yeah. When you're told, like, listen, like, you can go here three days a week. And in your mind you're like, I could do more than that then. Now it's like, you'll gladly do more when you can, but it's not seen as a failure when you can't.

But, you know, I'll tell you one thing that's in my head is that I want to be. I always went to the gym growing up as a kid because I always wanted, you know, like, all of us, most of us, we've been Rocky, Rocky fans, Sylvester Stallone.

Yeah.

And so I always went to the gym to be inspired by the big guys. And I. And I never had that ideal physique. And I want. I'm 41. I think it's one of my last chances and I want to get there. So, you know, they also say that what you have to. Like Gary says, and you say that you map your actions with your ambitions. So ambition is there. Can I have it in three days a week?

Well, I'LL tell you what, you can't have it in five days a week for three months, then quitting. That is a fact. Right. So you're not going to get it in three months or five months or ten months at five days a week. It's going to take a long time. Can you do it? Yes. It's going to take a long time. So you have to figure out what is my best way to get there if I know it's going to take three years. Right. And you know, you just said you can't do five days a week for three years straight. I would rather you go for a full year consistently for three days a week, maybe an extra session here and there. And then after that year you see amazing progress. You love the gym now. It's, you're not going to stop. And you can say, you know what, I'll go four days a week now, and then you can see how that goes. But the people who look like that, who got like where they look like, incredible now, they didn't start by going seven days a week training two times a day. Like, they started with a basic program and then it built up from there. And even ask the people, the top of the top of the top people, they go through training ruts, they go through times where they don't want to train because it's burning them out. And they'll gladly go back to three times a week just to maintain for a period of time, build up that motivation. It's consistency is king above all else. And if you burn yourself out and can't be consistent, then you're definitely not going to reach the goal.

Why this is so amazing and so powerful. Why doesn't everybody talk like this? Why is everybody saying, you know, kill yourself and get results in three months and, you know, who cares about the future? Everybody has this about that, you know, it's just crazy. Everybody wants it now and everybody's selling now also to the world. You know, life is now and do it now, otherwise it never happens. And so a lot of people for this consistency of why I wanted to bring this up was because I just thought that this is something a lot of people are shy of bringing up. And I thought if I bring it up, people will resonate more with this. So if you're eating, if you're working out three times a week, should you work out in two hours or maybe double time so that you're taking care of. Because you said it's calorie intake versus calorie, you know, it's plus, minus. So I'm only losing X amount of calories by going three times. That means my diet has to go lower than when I was.

That's where your diet is king. It means that don't make up for it in more time at the gym. Make up for it in really being smart with your nutrition. And it's funny because everyone, I'll tell you what, if I could pay a lot of money to make it so that I could exercise away my calories and eat whatever I wanted, I would, if that. Like, I would way rather go to the gym for two hours a day and eat whatever I wanted and be shredded than actually pay attention to my nutrition. Like, I would way rather that. But that's not how this works. Like, you actually have to be smart with your nutrition and pay attention to it. Because unless you're training like Michael Phelps, like someone who's training eight hours a day burning unbelievable amounts of calories, you shouldn't worry about how many calories you're burning because odds are it's not enough. And you really need to pay attention to how much you're eating.

This. I am going to watch this interview so many times. And this is, you know, I asked for 45 minutes. We are almost up. So I don't want to take more of your time. But you know, I will request you maybe in a couple of months, whenever you have more time to do a round two, because there's so many questions that you know that are going to remain unanswered on health and fitness. You know, you. It's just, is there a book coming out? Is there a website? Is there. What can people do to get more of you?

So Instagram right now and YouTube is big for me that I'm really big in that. So Instagram, Syatt Fitness, YouTube, just. Jordan Syed. I just actually recently started a podcast. It's called the Jordan Science Mini Podcast. So there's a lot, there's a lot of places to find me my website, syatt fitness.com so plenty of places to reach me and a lot of content going out every day.

So is there. So if somebody wants to enroll in one of your programs, so they go to your website and they book a call with you or how does that work? Or can they buy something online?

Yeah. So basically as of right now, they just email me, just email me to jordanjordan sciat fitness.com and. And I speak with each person individually and number one, if see if they're a good fit for a program and just like, because I don't want to sell someone something that they're not a good fit for. And if, if like I don't want anyone wasting money on something that isn't right for them. So I talk to you. We figured out if you're a good fit for coaching or my inner circle is really where a lot of people are going lately. And if you are great, and if not, then I will personally find you a coach who's a better fit.

Okay. Excellent. Excellent. This has been for me, I'm not just saying it because at the end of every show I have to say something aloud, but this for me has been a couple of subtle slaps in the face to say, you know, look at where you're going. And I have been looking at where I'm going in the last 40 minutes and I've been eating a lot of nuts. So I'm not counting exactly what you said. Cream in the coffee and all of that, not really cream, but all of those extra add ons. If I now think about that, I'm like, I've been fooling myself and I need to watch this interview a couple of times more and show it to my daughter as well when she comes back from school later today.

Well, give me the link when it's published and I'll share it with my Instagram and everything and my email list. And I appreciate it. You, honestly, I do a lot of these and you are a great host. I love talking to you. Hopefully I get to see you again soon. And really thank you for having me.

Not at all, not at all. I'm scheduling to come to your office sometime very soon, so I will come and say hello to you. And I always like to do a push up challenge with people who can do way more push ups than I, but I still like to do that and I like to do it with you when I meet you next time. Thank you so much. This has helped me a lot. And I can just see why you're growing as a personal brand online. It's because you're doing the work offline. It's just so powerful. You have your answers ready, you have your concepts ready. You are so in alignment with what you say. We don't have, you know, this they say, they say that when people think before and they try to be in alignment and they don't truly in alignment, their eyes go to the right because they're trying to fetch an image of themselves. And they say when people are looking at you and talking, that means I just learned it from somewhere. I don't know how true it is, but they say alignment, so I just see that alignment in what you're saying and I just wish I met you. I wish we were buddies in college so we couldn't box together or wrestle together. I would have been in a better shape now. But nevertheless, I will take on a challenge and I will get back in shape. Sahil, thank you very much for being part of the show and I look forward to launching it in the next two weeks. And I'll send you the link for sure.

Amazing. Thank you so much, my friend. It was great to talk to you. Please keep me posted and I'll talk to you very soon. Okay?

100%. Cheers.

Have a good day. My man. Sam.