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In this motivational interview, Speaker A presents a concise 7‑step framework designed to move individuals from a state of drifting to actively driving their growth. The framework is portrayed as universally applicable, having been used by the speaker in diverse areas such as pickleball, golf, and business. Speaker B probes how the speaker’s personal experience shaped the framework, prompting Speaker A to explain its origins and relevance. The discussion begins with the first step—Clarity—emphasizing the importance of explicitly defining what one wants as the foundational starting point for the entire process.










