S4:E57 (AI RECAP of S2:E10) 🎙️LIVE with Coach Jorge Roque

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What everyone, this is Coach Bizzy again, twice in the same day. Uh, we just had, uh, the 10-minute summary in Spanish. So first time we broadcast in Spanish on the Leadership and Success podcast. And now we're going to do the same thing in English. All right. So please let us know where you are joining us from, what city, what state, and if outside of the US, what country. If you have a question for me, type it in the comment and I will get back to it by the end of this broadcast. And also please tag someone you know who might benefit from the podcast. As always, like the event, subscribe to the podcast, follow me. And we share the event in your feed. I really do appreciate that if this podcast is adding value to you. And I'm going to go ahead and say it now. Tomorrow I'm going to be interviewing Dr. Barry Poole, and he's going to be— he helps leaders reimagine business through the lens of AI. He's the founder and CEO of Brilliant. So you do not want to miss this. It's going to be 10 AM Pacific time, so 1 PM Eastern time tomorrow. Thursday live right here on LinkedIn, but also on YouTube. All right, I'm gonna show a couple of clips from the interview I had with Coach O.A. Roque. That was for Season 2, Episode 10. So I'm gonna give you the 10-minute recap for Season 4, Episode 57 today in English. And please go ahead and watch the full podcast. Okay, so the original podcast, Season 2, Episode 10, it's about 1 hour, but let me give you the summary now. But first, let's watch a couple of clips.

Uh, process and, and becoming or turning them into non-producing agents, into producing agents, and teaching them techniques and, and expertise that you don't get from school, you actually get on working in the field. And suddenly, after a couple of years, these agents that I developed, another— at that time I had about 30 agents, they suddenly started leaving one after another. And I became bitter and angry, and I felt betrayed by them. Now, you know that all coins have two sides. So at first, of course, I felt like a victim, and I was feeling sorry for myself. Then I started looking Why this happened? Why it really happened? And it really happened because I was very well intended, but I didn't have the skill to properly deliver and be patient with the process. And on top of that, I did not have the right motivation to give. I was giving with the expectation of receiving a result, but I wasn't giving with a full open heart regardless of the consequences. That brought me into a kind of like sad stage. I don't want to call it depression because it was not, but I was definitely bitter and beat up. And I didn't want to recruit or train anybody else because I didn't want to deal with ungrateful people. But guess what? When you have a vocation that flows out of you, the desire of helping and mentoring and teaching others and coaching others is something that you cannot resist. And I realized that this is actually my passion, my The biggest strength that I have in me is actually sharing what I have learned and the wisdom that I acquired through experience so I can help these people build up these new leaders. And there was a phrase that struck me really hard from Maxwell, and it was that you always, you always leading either in a positive way or in a negative way, or by just doing nothing, still you're leading. So, and that's how Maxwell get into my life. I realized that I had to train the trainer. Fix my heart, clear my mind, line up my intentions so I can actually start delivering the help that I want to so passionately give out, but with quality, with compassion. With, uh, with passion too, but with compassion. So, and, uh, and, and this has been quite a wonderful journey because I have been learning and, and opening drawers that I didn't want to open about myself and realizing, oh my goodness, I really have to deal with this.

But one more thing that I learned with Maxwell, that in the process of learning Let's jump right in discussing the journey from real estate to creating a real impact through Leadership Lessons by Coach Jorge Roque. His background is, um, fascinating. Born in Cuba, shaped by the American dream, and transformed by failure and self-reflection.

Mm, right. And it's incredible how Jorge went from being rejected in IT during the dot-com crash to building a thriving brokerage without prior sales experience. His path is filled with unexpected pivots and lots of grit.

Exactly. It's like his breakthrough was not just about professional success, but about, you know, leading from the heart. When he realized that giving from a closed hand just bred bitterness, he transformed his approach to leadership.

Yeah, that's a powerful point. The idea that you have to serve without expecting anything in return. It shifts the focus from accumulating success to fostering significance. And, um, the pivot from personal accomplishments to empowering others really stands out.

Right on. He talks about how real leaders don't simply create followers. They empower, they mentor. The whole idea of turning personal pain into purpose. You know, his pain from betrayal and burnout became a vital teacher. Mm.

I find it interesting how he describes that transformation. It's his self-reflection that turned him from a passionate doer into a compassionate leader. It's like he had this moment where he realized he was trying too hard to fix everyone else without first understanding himself.

Absolutely. And that self-awareness is key. By employing tools like DSC personality assessments, He uncovered blind spots and recognized that true leadership begins with, um, regulating your own internal power plant.

Right. I wonder though, don't you think relying on methods like natal chart readings might be a stretch for some professionals? It's that, like, controversial twist he mentioned.

Yeah, that's a fair challenge. While his idea of using natal charts as a third's eye view isn't mainstream, It's his way of saying, "If you were designed to be a lamp, don't try to be a broom." It's a poetic, albeit unconventional, way of urging leaders to embrace what naturally flows from them.

Mm, true. It does add a flavor of self-discovery. Moving on, his notes on attitude are really on point. He emphasizes that what you input into your mind directly affects your actions and relationships. It's always a choice, especially when it comes to maintaining a positive outlook.

Right. And he makes the case that you can't outlead a poor attitude, no matter how good your strategy is. That daily renewal of attitude is its own form of leadership discipline, kind of like, um, a mental hygiene routine.

And speaking of daily routines, his emphasis on the Miracle Morning is, um, a game-changer. Waking up at 5 AM, meditating, and getting those small wins down, like making your bed, sparks momentum. It's like setting up a domino effect for success.

Exactly, yeah. Those first 60 minutes of your day, as he notes, are crucial, a period where small habits compound over time. It's like each little win builds, uh, the foundation for long-term success and self-discipline.

I love that idea. Success without a significance is empty. Jorge makes it clear that chasing titles for the sake of success isn't the goal. Instead, it's about transforming lives and creating lasting impact.

Totally. His mantra, "Don't be obsessed with being amazing, be obsessed with becoming a gift," really encapsulates that shift from personal achievement to genuinely contributing to others' growth.

Yeah, yeah. And it's super relevant for leaders across all sectors, be it in military, cybersecurity, or tech startups. Instead of getting caught up in the chase for titles, the focus should be on raising others up.

Right. He talks about that shift very clearly. Whether it's mentoring junior officers in the military or coaching engineers into leadership roles in tech, It's about growth, not just personal gain.

But here's something that I find particularly compelling and also a bit challenging to accept: the idea that failure isn't a broken wall, but rather a mirror. I mean, it's a nice analogy, but do you think that view on failure might diminish the very real pain associated with it?

That's a valid critique. However, Jorge's perspective is essentially that failure provides honest, reflective feedback. Instead of being oppressive, it should prompt leaders to pause, listen, and grow, transforming that pain into humility and, um, sharper resilience.

Yeah, I see your point. It's a proactive, almost radical way of reframing setbacks as opportunities for mindful growth. That takes a lot of courage and A self-reflection to consistently apply.

Exactly. And it's not just about personal growth. It's about, you know, mending broken bridges. In that touching moment when Jorge stated if he had only one day, he'd repair every broken bridge and let everyone know they're forgiven and loved. That's leadership at its most graceful.

That's a moving moment for sure. That idea of forgiveness as the final frontier in leadership highlights how essential grace is. When we let go of grudges, we open up space to truly lead with an open heart.

It really drives home the notion that leadership isn't just strategic or status-driven. It's about living as a gift to the world, serving with compassion, and fostering environments where growth is mutual.

Mm, and speaking of serving, his transformation from a results-driven mentality to one fueled by compassion shows that true success isn't Success isn't measured by personal accolades, but by the number of successors you empower. That's a powerful lesson.

Right, and his story is a masterclass in self-reflection and reinvention. It's like, um, sometimes our greatest setbacks become the very soil from which our most significant growth emerges.

Yeah, and it's impressive how his experiences in both real estate and earlier in the tech world interlace to form a holistic view of leadership. You can see how his coaching isn't just theoretical; it's tempered by real, harsh experiences.

Exactly, and that real-world flavor is what makes his insights so inspiring. He's lived through burnout, betrayal, and rejection, and still finds a way to nurture not just his own growth but also the growth of others.

I appreciate how he stresses self-awareness, not only in understanding one's strengths but also in facing those blind spots. And as you mentioned earlier, using tools like DiSC assessments can really sharpen that perspective.

It is, um, like tuning an instrument. You have to be in tune with your own frequency before you can harmonize with others. And his emphasis that great leaders remain curious about how others perceive them, man, that is vital in building effective teams.

Absolutely. And, uh, His book recommendations tie neatly into his overall message. Books like The Miracle Morning, Think and Grow Rich, and The Compound Effect aren't just, uh, buzzwords. They're structured pathways to evolving your mindset over time.

Yes, it shows that leadership is an ongoing journey, not a one-time achievement. Incorporating small daily habits can compound into monumental changes in how you lead and influence others.

Yet one might ask, how do these morning habits really stack up in the busy lives of military commanders or tech leaders? Is it really realistic to be up at 5 AM every single day?

Good point. I think it's more about intentionality. Even if not everyone can rise at 5 AM, the idea is to secure moments of intentional focus, be it through meditation, affirmations, or as simple as making your bed. It's like priming the pump for a productive day.

Yeah, fair enough. Those moments are like small victories that gradually build momentum, and they underscore the broader lesson: success is temporary, but significance lasts when you continuously contribute to the lives around you.

Right. And that ultimate takeaway from his story is bold. Leadership is, at its core, about giving yourself away to serve others. This isn't just about boardroom tactics or cybersecurity strategies. It's a universal call to lead with compassion and open hands.

Totally. And I also appreciate how the conversation connects leadership values across diverse realms, be it from real estate to the military to tech startups, and highlights that, um, authentic leadership transcends industry boundaries.

Absolutely. It creates a common ground for all leaders. And his story is such a reminder that transformation, self-awareness, and living with intentional forgiveness are the pillars of true success.

Before we wrap up, I want to challenge one thing I heard. While the idea of turning personal pain into leadership gold is inspiring, isn't there a risk of romanticizing hardship? What if someone never finds that breakthrough despite giving everything from the start?

That's a fair challenge. Not everyone's journey is neatly transformative. However, the message isn't that every painful setback will instantly lead to greatness, but rather that the process of self-reflection and embracing vulnerability is essential growth regardless of immediate outcomes.

Mm, I can agree with that. It's about learning and evolving over time, even if the results aren't instant. That in itself is a testament to resilient leadership.

Exactly. And as we think about our own leadership journeys, it all boils down to one question: What legacy of compassion and significance are we building? That's the lasting impact Coach Jorge Roque encourages us to strive toward.

Well said. Whether you're leading a cybersecurity team, commanding in the military, or mentoring the next generation, these lessons shine through. Serve authentically, Lead with heart, and always, um, choose the right attitude.

Absolutely, and that's our call to action. Embrace discomfort, practice self-reflection, and let every setback be a mirror that guides your next breakthrough.

Yeah, and on that note, let's take these insights and, um, lead not just for success but for a deeper, enduring significance in life. Thanks for this enriching conversation. Truly, leadership is a gift meant to be given away.

Indeed it is. Thanks for tuning in, everyone. Let's keep building leaders who not only achieve but create transformative change.

Bye, everybody.

This is Coach Bizzy. Thanks for watching. The first one is, what is the greatest lesson you have learned? What is the secret of your success, you think, right?

I said it in half of it in a few minutes ago, and it's basically to be passionate but also compassionate, both. You know, for example, one of the things that I'm very well known is about my passion, my energy, but I'm also well known by my lack of compassion when I let my my passion take over and not allow room for process to develop the right way. So I used to be very, very demanding and very strict, very, if you want, perfectionist. I like it to be more, it's not perfectionist in the sense of procrastination, but it's perfectionist in the sense that I wanted to deliver the best, most polished result. Or experience to our clients. So when I asked my agents, you have to use this software, act this way, do this and do that, I was pretty much not giving them room to breathe, you know, basically. And that's one of the reasons why they left at that time. So one of the things that I definitely learned in order to be successful is you definitely have to be passionate and relentless, absolutely. But you also have to be compassionate and breathe. A little bit and let process work. It can't be as you want it all the time. Most of the time you have to actually let people digest what they're receiving. Sometimes you're going too fast. And that's one of the things that I believe that has helped me a lot.

Wow. So basically you do have to prioritize your relationships too, because even in the military, people who are extremely successful, they are go-getters, but Nobody likes them because they don't really treat people well, right? They get things done, but they are the kind of leaders that would take a whip and get everybody in the frenzy and get them to pretty much go, you know, 100%. But you can't really do it at scale, right? You can't do it forever, but maybe for a short time, yes.

But yeah, one, I would like to add that, you know, you said what would be the secret, the secret sauce.

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