#111 How To Use Triggers to Heal PTSD Faster (Pain Is Your Friend)

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All right, we are live here. Welcome everyone to our Recovery Secrets Daily Coaching Call. It is so good to be here with each and every one of you on this awesome Wednesday morning. And sorry, something just popped up on my screen. And we have a great topic planned for you today. Today's topic is gonna be all about processing, so we'll get into just that in a second. If you are going to be here this live, feel free to say hey in the chat box there so that we can welcome you and engage with you throughout the session today. Remember, always when it comes to sessions, the more that you engage, the more that you're going to get out of it and be able to actually take away from it. So this lovely man across the screen from me here.

Good morning, everybody. Great to see you. My name is Brad. If you are new, it's great to have you. And today we're talking about processing. Wednesdays are dedicated to talking about processing. past trauma. So that's what we're talking about today. And we have a great topic that we picked out for you. And it's all about using pain and using triggers as a way to process trauma. So it's about using the pain instead of being afraid of it. So it's about changing your entire mindset about triggers, about pain, so that you start embracing the pain, and you use it as a tool to get you deeper and deeper healing. Because what you'll learn in today's session is that when you get triggered, it's basically your body and your mind telling you exactly what what you need to be working on. So we're going to teach you how to change the mindset, first of all, and then what to do when you actually feel the trigger, and then how to go deeper into the processing so you can take advantage of that moment. Because triggers are such a good moment. Once you know the processing tools, they're such an amazing moment for you. And you'll start to feel excited for triggers because they'll show you exactly what you need to work on to get to that next level. Because a lot of times it can be confusing. What do I do to get to that? Like, what else do I need to heal? Or what do I need to focus on? Triggers will highlight the way for you if you have— if you don't know what to don't know what to do. So it's, it's really kind of your compass when you're in the dark. And it's just a, it's a beautiful thing when you change your mindset about it. It's, it's a beautiful thing.

I mean, what a beautiful way to start off. And I want you all to think about that. Just consider that for a second. What if triggers were something that I got excited about? I want you to really consider that for a minute, cuz that's what, like, knowing the processing tools do and then understanding this kind of shift in mindset, although we're talking about processing, A lot of times by proxy, we're also going to talk about mindset and routines, and it all kind of has an interplay together. Excuse me, but I really want you to consider that. What if I felt excited? What if I felt grateful for triggers because I saw them as opportunities? I saw them as literally not just in the, like, I'm going to think of this in a positive way type of thinking, and I'm just going to force myself to be positive. Not like that, but literal True genuine opportunities that from feeling that trigger, from being triggered, you could go from quite literally a state of being triggered to a state of actually making progress on your healing. Not just no longer being triggered, not feeling calmer, not feeling better, but literally making progress on your healing, which means you're never going to have to do that specific section of that work again. Right. And so there's going to be a lot that you have to work with. I hope this is coming off. As clear as it can to understand, you know, a concept like this. But literally, you are going to be able to use that moment to further your healing, deepen your healing. And each time you put effort into your healing, it's effort you won't have to put in again. Because each time we go to do healing, although we might do multiple processing sessions on one specific issue, and you're going to do multiple processing sessions on one specific issue, we are making progress each of those times. So I really want you to consider that for a second. What if, and again, this is not some like hippie dippy positive thinking about getting triggered. Literally, what if I was excited about getting triggered? I literally saw it as an opportunity. I saw it as something good. I saw it as, okay, great. This is awesome data. This is awesome information because now I can actually do something about it. I want you to really consider that. So welcome everyone. Welcome Delaine. Welcome Judy. Welcome Teresa. Welcome Lena. Welcome Jeanette. Welcome Bonnie. Good morning. Great to have you here.

Good morning, everyone.

On our Processing Wednesday.

Yeah.

Really, really cool concept that we're talking about because whether you are implementing your healing routine or not, right? So for those of you who are new, for those of you who are like, Kailyn, what are you saying? We talk about 3 basic routines when it comes to recovery: evening routine, morning routine, and healing routine. And all that a healing routine is, is basically a time, a set aside time, a sacred time that you put in to specifically process trauma. So Recovery Secrets is a great time to set aside for yourself, but we're talking about something additional to that, right? So it's time specifically set aside on a daily or weekly basis to process trauma. And we do that by using one or more of a handful of processing tools that we teach. We teach 4 different processing tools. We've taught them in Recovery Secrets. For those of you in Broken to Unbreakable, you have access to those in kind of a different format as well. But those are the tools that we're talking about during that processing time. So Whether you are implementing and executing on your healing routine or not, this is a strategy that you are 100% going to want to use to your advantage.

Mm-hmm.

You're— you want to do this. You can get so much healing done this way. It's fantastic. It's awesome. It's a really good use of your time. When I was growing up, I was super, super busy between school and sports and other sports outside of school. It was just constant, nonstop busyness. And what I tried to do is look for opportunities where I could maximize on more than one thing, where I could maximize my time on more than one thing. And so when a teacher said, hey, we're gonna have some quiet time, I would do homework, right? Because I would've been in class during that time, and now I can use that time that I would've already given away to do homework so I don't have to do it later. And this is basically that concept. If you're going to be triggered, you're gonna be in pain, you're gonna be feeling some sort of emotion, that time is going to be taken from you. And so if we do our processing during that time, it's like we're doubling up on that. We're maximizing that time. So it's a really, really amazing, fantastic way to proceed and progress in your healing journey. Because in addition to that, there are going to be things that we recommend writing down. Basically, we call it a things I need to work on worksheet. It's things that you know you need to process. So it might be events, memories, thoughts, feelings, emotions. There's all sorts of things that go on that list. Using your triggers to make that list is a great, great, great idea. Using your triggers as opportunities to actually do the healing is that much further ahead, and it's gonna like let everything happen that much faster for you, which is a really, really neat concept. And in addition to that, when you get triggered, I mean, there's, there's so much to say about this, right? When you get triggered, your brain is, I think about it like holding up a sign saying, please deal with this. So, your brain is asking you to deal with it. And, once we know the processing tools, which many of you do, we have a way to deal with it. So, we need to kind of choose that new path.

Yeah.

In addition to that, there are going to be things that trigger you or you get triggered for a certain reason, and you might not have that on your list because it might not be this big obvious big T trauma thing that you've written down. And so, you get to get the big things, the medium things, and the little things. And so overall, it's just an amazing, amazing, amazing strategy to implement moving forward.

Yeah, it's the most surefire way to discover what you need to work on because your body is just literally telling you and shouting at you, and most of the time we don't listen to it, right? So I think the— we need to back up a little bit to get a clear understanding of this. Like, I want to go over what is pain, right? What is pain? What's happening? What is trigger? Like, when you get triggered, what happens and what is that? Now we covered this on Friday, right, of last week, where we talked about how the brain processes events, right? And how, you know, the brain, you have a traumatic event, it skips the working memory, it goes into the long-term memory. And then when you get triggered, that unprocessed memory comes out with all of the emotions, all of the feelings, all of the thoughts. So all of that comes out and you're basically re-experiencing that trauma in the present moment. So you feel all the same emotions, all the same things as you did when you first I experienced the trauma because it's unprocessed. So when you get triggered, it's an unprocessed traumatic memory that's coming out, right? So that's what's happening, right? So you are in the present moment, basically experiencing the same emotions or similar emotions that you felt back then. And how cool is that, right? Because right then and there, you have all of the data you need to then go and process it. So Kaylee's going to drop on the board here.

Just to get a clear understanding and kind of to spark the memory of what Brad's talking about, we talked about this on Friday. I can't draw a brain. I apologize in advance. Working memory, long-term memory. Okay. And so what Brad is referring to is when an event is traumatic, what happens is it's supposed to go into the working memory, but it doesn't. It skips the working memory and it goes straight into your long-term memory. And in a very, very simplified, fast version of what we talked about on Friday, Which is a great, great session to watch. Really, really good session. What needs to happen is basically since it skipped this process the first time, this working memory the first time, we need to take the information out of the long-term memory and put it into the working memory. And once it's in the working memory, your brain is going to process it. So that's kind of where the processing happens. It gets stored in your long-term memory and then You no longer get triggered. It no longer comes up again. It's fully healed. And so what Brad's specifically referring to here and what we're really talking about today with this topic is something that happens when you're triggered, right? And we talked about this. We refer to it as the addiction cycle. There's different ways that we refer to what happens right here. But when you're triggered, that information, all the raw stimuli we call it from the event, comes out of your long-term memory. And you do one of two things, basically. Now, here's, you'll see if you've been with us for the last few weeks, we're blending a couple of journeys here. You do one of a few things. You cope in either a negative or positive way, which puts the information back into the long-term memory, waiting for it to come up again. Or, and this is what we're talking about today, you do some sort of healing with it. So since it's already out, we basically want to say, okay, what journey do we want to take? Do we want to cope with this? And again, that could be negative or positive. Or since it's already out, why don't we put it into the working memory? It's already out. It's already there, right? And again, I—

Everything's there.

It's right there. It's, it's asking you, this is how I think about it, right? This is what's going on inside your brain. You have a little version of you, and again, this is a silly way to think about it, but it can help to conceptualize this concept. You have a little version of you inside your brain with a megaphone, right? And, and when you are triggered when this information comes out, that version of you is saying like, hello, hi, like, please pay attention to me, right? And so it's just trying to, it has this megaphone, it is trying to get your attention. And again, that's why there's so many benefits to this. When you stub your toe, what happens? Or rather, when you maybe, for those of you who have ever maybe played sports and broken a finger for one reason or another, Right? What happens? You feel what? You feel pain. Your brain makes you feel pain. Pain is something that happens in the brain. It doesn't happen in your finger. It happens in the brain. Okay? Your brain is saying, hey, hello, hi, ouch. My hand here, my tooth, ouch. Let's bring some attention to that. We need to do something about this. Same thing is happening here. It's just all internal. So it presents as a different kind of pain. It presents as emotional pain. Still coming from the brain. It's the exact same thing as breaking your hand or hurting yourself in some sort of way. Your brain is going to make you feel that pain in order to draw your attention to it. We just have a habit, whether it's culturally or personally, of being like, what? Do you hear that? No, no, I don't hear that. And shoving it down.

Yep. Yeah.

So that's what Brad's talking about. And today we're talking about this moment right here where we get triggered It comes out of the long-term memory and then we can choose to, again, either cope negatively or positively, or we can choose to put it into the working memory with our processing tools.

Yeah. And this is like the core of like, don't erase that quite yet. It's okay that you erased the event, but I just want to kind of explain a few things that you drew up. But before I do, this is all like, this should all be changing your mindset about this of like, when you get triggered, it's not, it's not something to be, I mean, obviously like there's a degree of you're feeling emotions, right? You're feeling these emotions. But now you can be, now you can look at it a lot more logically. Like once you know the processing tools, you now have, you have the tools in your toolbox to deal with that trigger effectively. So you don't have to be afraid of it anymore. Now you can see it more as data. You can see it more as your body is telling you exactly what you need to work on. It's giving you all the emotions that you need to process, right? So like with protectors, right? The first thing you start with is emotions. It's giving you the thoughts. You know, because the thoughts are being triggered, which you can use introspective healing. It might give you a memory, right? It might bring up a specific memory where you can go into bilateral processing. And what's the fourth one, Kayleen? Belief. It might be a specific belief that comes to mind, and you use the challenging beliefs tool, right? So now you can, you can break down the trigger into these different components and view it much more logically and a lot less emotional. So you're not sucked into it, right? So you can separate yourself from the emotion, see the emotion. interpret it as data and logically think through it and then be like, okay, I have the tool for this, right? I have these negative thoughts. I'm gonna use some introspective healing. I'm feeling this emotion. I'm gonna talk to this protector. I'm gonna separate from this protector and talk with it and heal it right now in real time. And that's the cool thing about this. When you know the tools, your entire mindset shifts about triggers. And we talk, we talk about all the time about, you know, how most of the pain that we have is self-inflicted. You know, you have the first dart, which is thrown by life, right? The first, the first pain. is given to you by life, and then all the subsequent pains are thrown by you, right? Because you, you cycle yourself around into all these negative things. So if we can remove all of these negative things, you only have the pain of, of life, right? Which is a lot less than most of us think it is, right? Because we cause ourselves so much stress. And if we can remove that, in, in this case, by looking at more logically, breaking out the components, and then coming up with a plan to deal with it, And process it so it's gone for good. It removes a lot of that pain. It removes most of that pain. You can slow down and be like, okay, you can, you can basically scan yourself and be like, all right, I'm thinking this, this is what I'm thinking. It might be helpful to journal some things down, but you can, you can, you don't need to be like, this is what I'm thinking. This is what I'm feeling. All right. I'm feeling anxious. And you can even label it. I'm feeling anxious. I'm having these thoughts and this memory's coming up. All right. What, what am I going to do with that? And then you go to, all right, I'm going to do some bilateral processing on this memory. And release some of these emotions, or I'm going to go and journal and do some introspective healing on some of these negative thoughts and things to try to, you know, figure out what's going on, you know, to get my bearings and, you know, see where I need to go further. So that's how you can transform a trigger. But at this top here, this is why I want, want you to leave the picture on the board. In the long-term memory, you have those 2 paths, right? Right. And you talked about the one that goes up into the left, into the working memory. That's the one that is where you make the choice after you're triggered to process. The trigger, basically immediately. And the other one is when you choose to cope, hopefully positively. Now, with the knowledge that you have today, you might be at work or something and be triggered, and you might not be able to, you know, do a processing session in the middle of work, right? But with what you now know today, you can make note of that trigger. You can still analyze it and you can still break out, okay, I am, I'm feeling this emotion, I'm having this thought, and I, I identified this belief from this trigger. Right? So now you have a higher level of awareness of what needs to be worked on, right? So now you're aware of the problem. You're not just allowing the trigger to come up and then cope with it and go down. You're learning something from it, right? You're, so you're still getting something from the trigger, even if you can't process it in real time. So you can cope with it, but you're still in a better spot than you were before. If you think about this in the right way, if you analyze it and you break it out and you, you, you, you, you tell yourself, okay, this emotion. This thought, this belief, or you just write out the data. You write out the data, the unemotional data that you experienced. So then you can go back later in the day and process it, right? Because you're not going to be able to process everything right when, like, in the middle of it. Like, you're not always going to be able to take a break, you know, from where we are to do a processing session. So at the very least, you can walk away from that trigger smarter than you were before it. And still, even though you might not process it in real time, You're using that trigger as an opportunity to grow, as an opportunity to learn, as an opportunity to heal, right? So that's an important aspect as well. So there's 2 paths now, and these are 2 new paths, right? Because you might have been, you know, being triggered and you might be coping in a positive way, but now you can be triggered and learn something from it. And this is so incredibly, incredibly powerful, incredibly powerful. And this is good for everybody. If you're just starting, you can start to learn about your triggers. You can start breaking it apart. Even if you don't know the processing tools, you can be like, all right, I'm feeling these things. You can start to detach yourself more from the emotions and look at it more logically, which will help you once you do learn the processing tools. Or if you're further along in your journey, you can either process it in real time or you can just think of it as like, this is, this is the thing that will help you become aware of what you need to work on most. Because after you reach a certain point in your recovery, one of the hardest things to move forward is just awareness of the problem. Right? Because you have a lot of good days, but you might have a few bad days. And triggers and pain is the best way to become aware of what you need to work on. Because in the beginning, it's usually pretty obvious. Like, oh, maybe I was abused. I went through this trauma and this trauma and this trauma. It's usually pretty obvious in the beginning. But after you get to a certain point, for some of you, this is going to be your best friend. Pain is going to be your best friend because it's going to show you exactly what you need to work on to get to that next level. And that was something like, I kind of hit a plateau. at some point before I learned this. And then once I learned it, I started analyzing the pain, seeing the pain as something that was telling me, my body was telling me exactly what I need to work on to get to that next level. So it's an amazing, incredible mindset.

And it's, it's, I mean, that like kind of sums it up. It's, it's really extremely powerful. And so we have a couple of sayings when it comes to this process specifically in pain specifically, we have a saying, pain is my friend, right? Pain is my friend. Pain is showing me. what needs to be done. And we have a saying, it's just data. And that's the understanding that every time you get triggered, it is information that you need in order to heal and progress. It is information. Your brain is spitting out data to you. And so Brad's talking about if you can see it objectively, that is not a perfect process. That is great and ideal, but we're working to see it as data. And so understanding this is data, this is information that my brain is giving me so that I can move forward and trying to take just a little bit at the very least of a more objective view so that we can actually face it, right? Because a lot of times we make it this big scary monster. And when we can say, okay, this is just information, this is information.

Mm-hmm.

It's facts.

It's my brain is giving this to me just like your boss would be giving you information. Here are the criteria for this project. Now go and figure out a way to do it. Your brain's doing the exact same thing, right? So it's just data. And pain is my friend are really amazing mindset reminders really to help you with this process. Because I'm going to be honest with you, the easy thing, the habitual thing, short-term, the easy thing short-term is going to be to just turn your head away from it.

Mm-hmm.

To hear this, it's not actually going to be a voice, but to feel this pain, To hear your brain saying, hello, please pay attention to this thing, and just turn away from it to avoid it. That's what it is. That's what coping is, right? And again, it's not bad. It's an integral part of this journey. The harder thing is gonna be to face it because there are emotions involved.

Mm-hmm.

Right? And so when we can face it, it, and just be, again, at the very least, a little bit more objective to say, hey, listen, I need this data in order to move forward. Because what we're doing when we're coping, again, positively or negatively, and it has a place on the journey, what we're doing when we're coping is we're saying, okay, I'm just going to push that off so that it can bother me again tomorrow or next week. And when we continue to say that again and again and again, years go by, sometimes decades go by, and we're still being triggered by this thing. What we're doing when we're facing it, although, and I'm not going to lie to you, it's not going to be easy to face these things all the time.

No.

But when we face this and say, okay, what is actually going on? This is, this is the data. It's gonna be uncomfortable. And when we can get objective, it can make it a little bit easier. But when we can see it as data, what we're saying is like, I'm dealing with this now. I'm being basically proactive about this so it doesn't continue to ail me forevermore. This is your, I want this thing to make me feel pain forevermore path. This is the, I want this to eventually end path. And it won't always be right that moment.

Yeah.

When you do that processing for the first time, there are gonna be multiple iterations that you need to do here. But again, this is your, I want pain forevermore path. This is your, I want this pain to end eventually. And this is a lot shorter than it realized, or than you might realize.

Yeah. And now you go ahead.

This is a really integral thing to see. And I caught Lisa, your comment caught my eye. Lisa sharing like stepping on a scale doesn't define who we are. It just reveals data to make healthy choices. That's all that it is.

I love that.

That's a great way to really conceptualize this process because it's quantitative data, meaning it's a number. So, if we are not at the fitness level we want to be and we're avoiding the scale, avoiding the scale, avoiding the scale, we're saying, okay, I'm just going to let this pain continue. Once we get on the scale, it doesn't matter what it says.

Or credit card debt.

Or credit card debt. It's not a reflection of who you are. It's not you, but it is something that you need. It's information that you need to choose this path to say, I want this to eventually end. Okay, so in this case, maybe to stop gaining weight or to stop losing weight. I want this to eventually end, so I need to face it. What's going on here? Now I can make choices. Now I, now I have the information that I need, right? Or like Brad said, credit card debt. If we keep just not looking, not looking, not looking, not looking, not paying those bills, oh, it's going to get worse.

Not facing that pain of being like, oh my gosh, not facing that problem.

Once we face that pain, we say, okay, listen, I'm $25,000 in debt. Okay, that hurts. Yes. Now, let's do something about it. And, that's what it can be. And again, so much of this is mindset. This is mindset is saying, okay, now I can do something about it.

Yeah.

And, I typically don't really like the words weak and strong because they mean different things to different people. It means something different to me than it does to a lot of different people culturally. But, a lot of people think that, or at least the way that I was raised, I'll speak from my perspective, the way that I was raised was that strong people don't emit emotion and don't feel and basically push things away. And so you're strong. If you fall down and you scrape your knee or break your arm, you don't cry. Oh, you're so strong. And to me, that's a misrepresentation of what strong is. To me, strong is facing it and saying, okay, ouch, this hurts. Now I can do something about this. That's to me what strength is. It's not pushing it down and pretending nothing is going wrong. To me, that is not strong. That's the opposite of strong. And so it, in my perspective, again, this is all just different mindset work. What is strong is, okay, there's a problem here saying, hey, there's a problem here. And now that I am facing, I'm admitting, I'm acknowledging here's an issue. Now I can face it and do whatever it takes to face it, to overcome it, right? So that it eventually ends. That's the idea. is to fix it, face it, overcome it so that it no longer exists eventually. That's the goal rather than ignoring it and have it perpetually exist and pretend it doesn't exist.

Right.

Right. Just as a different concept.

Yeah. And that's, that's the behavior that, you know, most of us find ourselves in, right? You, you avoid the pain for one reason or another. Maybe it's, maybe it's like the belief of weakness or you're just scared of it. It's just a lot of stuff. So habitually, when you look on the board right there where you drew the circle between the two That you could go down. Could you just point to it? Yeah. That is the behavior. You right now are likely that you're likely in the cycle or you've grooved into your brain to take the right, the path to the right where you're coping, right? So in one way or another, whether it's positive or negative, you're probably habitually in there. And this week we talked about behavior change and going through the levels of awareness. And now you're going to be aware of, okay, you know, before you might not have been aware of like, what do you do when you do a trigger? But now you might be, okay, I'm I'm, when I, when I get triggered, I tend to want to go and cope whether it's healthier or not. And I'm not saying healthy is bad or anyway, and, or in any way, but now you can be aware of that and start to make a different decision and be like, okay, I'm going to go down this road and I'm going to try to process this. I'm trying to learn from this. I'm going to try to grow from this. I'm going to try to see this from data instead of just being sucked into it. I'm going to try to take a step back and see what's going on, try to interpret the data. And come up with a plan to process it for good. So I don't have to feel this trigger again, right? Because when you process it, you don't feel it trigger again. You don't get triggered when it's a fully processed memory. Because by nature, like we said in the beginning, when you're triggered, it's an unprocessed event. It's an unprocessed trauma that's being brought up into your consciousness, right? And then if you just cope, it recedes back, and then it's triggered again, and then it recedes back if you're just coping. Right? But if you take this and you process that unprocessed trauma, it's done. And then the next time you're in that situation, that same situation in the future, you won't get triggered. And that way you actually get to eliminate the trigger altogether. So not only do you, yeah, you're not stuck in this cycle. So it's a beautiful thing. It's incredible. It's an incredible process.

That says it all. It's like you now have a choice, right? And so I tried to draw this up here and yes, I will take my $10 million a year like Vanna White, Please. Okay. For, for being your Vanna White today. Okay. You know, I tried to draw that more distinctly as you have options. You have 2 options here, right? And so understanding that, and like Brad said, by nature, this is unprocessed. You had all the raw data and your brain said, great, let's put it right in the basement. That's, that's what it did, right in the attic, right in storage. It didn't go through it. I want you to think about, you just went on a trip. Right? And you have clean clothes, you have dirty clothes, you have souvenirs. That's your raw data. Instead of going through that bag, what you do is you put that bag in the basement. Okay? And then every time that maybe you need an item that might be in that bag, you're like, oh shoot, it's in that bag. And it causes you a ton of distress, right? Or maybe you take it outta the bag and you put it back in the bag. It stays in the basement. What we should have done, what our brain should have done is right when we got home from that trip, We should have processed that information, meaning we should have put the souvenirs, you know, or sent the souvenirs to where they needed to be. We should have put the dirty clothes away. We should have put the clean clothes away and put the bag where the bags go so that in the future when we needed something, when we needed that souvenir, we wouldn't have to go down into the basement to get it. Okay? So just an analogy to, to kind of use this here. And so I want you, I've, I've been, I'm saying that cuz Brad and I are going on a trip pretty soon and I've been guilty of that so many times. I go home from a trip. And instead of unpacking my bag, not metaphorically, literally, instead of unpacking my bag, I leave it on the couch and I live out of it for the next 3 weeks. Okay? And so if, let's say I made that choice, okay, where I left my bag on the couch and then the first time I needed something out of that bag, I had a choice. I could just take the thing outta the bag and leave the bag on the couch, or I could do what I should have done in the first place.

Mm-hmm.

And I could process what's in that bag. I could put everything away. So it's, everything's back where it needed to be. Does that make sense as an analogy there? So again, we have the tools. For those of you who are new, you're still gonna need to learn the tools, but you have access to learn those tools. We've covered in Recovery Secrets, we'll cover them in different ways. And again, in the future, we have the tools, we have the capabilities. So now it's up to us to choose, to decide how we want to move forward. And again, you don't have to make this choice every time. Or you're doing processing. It's going to depend a little bit on your situation. And there's nothing wrong with coping. It's just something that you can use as an opportunity, something that you can walk through your life with and have the confidence that, hey, anything that comes up, anything that hurts me, bothers me, triggers me, upsets me, disturbs me, I have the opportunity to solve it. To solve it.

Yeah.

And some of the big things You're going to have to do multiple sessions of processing, but there are going to be things where something messes with you, disturbs you, upsets you, triggers you, and you do just a little bit of processing. And right then, right there, you're able to literally solve it. It will be like that because it— that's all that it requires. It's just a little bit of attention and a little bit of, of work, a little bit of processing, and then it's done forever. And so that's another reason why this entire concept is great. It's awesome for the big stuff. It's especially awesome for the little things and the medium things that are a lot more sneaky. Really, really important thing and really great thing to take forward. And if you don't have a processing routine in place, I encourage you to get one and to implement one. But if you don't, do this instead. And so maybe you'll end up processing more. Maybe you're not doing any processing right now. Maybe a couple times a week you'll process because you're using pain as your friend. And you're using these moments as data. Mm-hmm. 2 really important concepts I want you to take away from this. Pain is my friend. It's just data.

Great job. Awesome. So I hope you guys enjoyed the topic today. We're gonna dive into some Q&A, some topics, so, or questions or comments. So if you have any questions, feel free to get it in. I'm gonna lead it today because Keely has to jump off a little bit early. So I'll go through these right now, but feel free to get those questions in the comments box. Let's just—

Couple quick announcements. Yeah, just couple quick kind of housekeeping before we get into questions. First of all, great job today. And I will hop off in, in a minute here. Again, just quick announcements. Next week, Brad and I are going to be gone starting Friday. So we're gonna be gone Friday through all of next week and next Monday in regard to our sessions here. So what we're gonna do, for those of you who didn't see my post in the community, we're gonna do Inspiration Week interviews. Now, I know some of you have already kind of signed up, but the idea is you right now, in some way, shape, or form, are someone's recovery hero. Again, in some way, shape, or form, some aspect of your life is something that somebody else in this group wishes they had, which means we're all capable of inspiring others. And so I'm asking for your help. We're asking for your help during this week because we want to keep live content going and we're not going to be able to because we'll be at a conference. And we wanted to, again, take it as an opportunity to, hey, let's get all these group members to inspire each other because everyone has some sort of win to share from the content, from the journey so far. It doesn't matter how small. And basically what we're gonna do is we're gonna have you hop on a very casual conversational interview, 20 to 45 minutes, as long as you want it to be, but, or as short as you want it to be with our community manager, Nancy, and just celebrate those wins. Talk about those wins. Talk about, you know, how you got those wins and why those wins are worth it and just really focus on the good. And so we're calling it Inspiration Week. If you wanna be involved, I'm doing a special incentive. I didn't even tell Brad about this. For those of you— now we only have 7 spots available and 3 of them I believe are already booked. So 4 more of you I'm looking to volunteer. But for those of you who schedule and do the interview with our community manager, I'm going to do something special. You're going to get a signed copy of my next book before we release it.

Oh, a pre-release signed copy.

Yeah. A signed copy of a pre-release for the next book, just as a little special extra incentive. As if helping others in the community and inspiring people isn't enough of an incentive. I know that it is, but just a little something extra to sweeten the pot because I know it can be a little bit uncomfortable to get outta that comfort zone and to do something like that. I want you to know it's, I want you to think of it like a coffee shop conversation, really casual, no pressure. Nancy's awesome. We're gonna do some tests, you know, kind of Zooms tomorrow too, and we'll introduce her tomorrow and stuff like that. Which is awesome, but you've seen around the community as well. So I'm asking for your help and you can go to that post in the community. Again, there are 4 spots left. It would mean the absolute world to us. And you have no idea the impact it could have on someone in this community, whether they're joining you live for the interview or whether they watch it after the fact, or even whether they watch it a year from now or 2 years from now. Honestly, a lot of these little things can can inspire people to the point where they change their life, they take action. It— little things like that can save someone's life because it changes their mindset and it just makes them feel like, hey, if they can do it, I can do it. Or hey, I didn't know that. Or a little bit of a different angle. There's all sorts of things that go into that. So that's a gift that you can give to the community. Again, I know it can be a little out of the comfort zone, but you are so capable. There's no pressure. And understand that this is a totally safe space.

Yep.

They're going to be at our normal Recovery Secrets times. So we're going to try to have a little bit something every day. So for those of you interested, Go into the— it's a pinned post and click the link and schedule a time. And also, last quick announcement, Ryan will be back next week for another session. He's going to do an interactive session. He told me the other day what it is, but it's going to be Thursday of next week. So I will be making the event for that and stuff like that. It's going to be a week from tomorrow. So lots of exciting things. Yeah.

And if you guys are a little nervous or apprehensive about you know, signing up for this interview, I would encourage you to just do it. Like, that is how you grow, right? If you're nervous about talking about, you know, you know, kind of your wins or just your life or anything like that, or getting on live in front of some people like this, it's a great opportunity to grow. I'm telling you right now, it's just, you won't, you don't get better until you get out there and you do it for the first time. Like, I remember I joined Toastmasters for a little bit. I did a few speaking and then, you know, I did sales and I started my own business. And all of that required me to get out there and put myself out there to talk to people. And then I started doing Q&As on Broken to Unbreakable. And the first one, if you went back, like I was very nervous. I was super nervous. Keeling had to do them with me because I was so nervous. But if I never took that step, I wouldn't feel comfortable, as comfortable as I do right now. And I feel very comfortable in front of the camera and just talking and speaking and comfortable pausing. I'm comfortable not knowing what I'm going to say next. So it's a great opportunity, not just for you, not just to get Keeling's book before it's released, signed. But for your, for yourself, you know, for your own growth and to push yourself outta your comfort zone to get better. And I promise you, if you do do that, if there's something you, you do want to do and you're scared to do it, you will feel so good even if it doesn't go perfectly. And know that you're in probably, probably the best community to, to put yourself out there and do this for the first time. So just, I wanted to say that as well, cuz it's a great opportunity to grow, great opportunity to just improve. That skill, which is such a valuable skill.

Yeah.

And Brad, I appreciate you saying that. And Bonnie, I caught your comment there, right? And I was just gonna comment on that. You're also not gonna be alone in this. You know, we're not asking you to get up there alone and give a speech or anything like that. Nancy's gonna be there, and Nancy's been a member of the community since the beginning, which is awesome. And you'll have recognized her from sessions that we do. She's on California time, so it's very early for her to be here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But You're not going to be alone doing that. You know, she's going to be there with you to guide you. You're going to be there just having a conversation. She's a great person to talk to. And just overall, it— I want you to think of it, it's just a relaxing experience, like you're just meeting at a coffee shop. That's, that's, that's how we think of this. That's why actually one of the reasons we love Recovery Secrets is because we feel like we just get to come on and be ourselves and have a conversation, and it also provides value, which is a really, really neat thing. Yeah.

I want to create a setup in our studio sometime where it's more casual, like a coffee shop at some point.

We'll do a mock coffee shop. K's Coffee.

K's Coffee.

Okay. So I encourage you to do that again. So that's going to be Inspiration Week is going to be starting this Friday. Hopefully if we have someone signed up for Friday, go all through next week and then to the following Monday, Ryan will be here next Thursday. If you have any questions about what we talked about today or in general, Or anything like that, feel free to ask Brad. I have to hop off early, but it was so fantastic to be here with each and every one of you. And for those of you who are signed up for interviews already or are going to sign up, thank you in advance. It really does. It means the world to us because our mission is to help everyone. And sometimes it takes a little bit of a different perspective or a different voice or different words, a different little story, a different little win.

Yeah.

To really make an impact. And you, you just never know what that little thing is gonna be. It could be somebody's accent. It could be the way that they laugh. It could be their energy. It could be a very specific nuanced wind that it just makes something click for someone. So thank you in advance. I'll see you bright and early tomorrow morning. And, uh, all right.

Bye, Kaylee. All righty. So I'm going to go through these comments here. I have it scrolled up to the top. So Bonnie, um, said, I've, I have much smaller triggers now and I can quickly start figuring out what I need to work on, which is awesome. So. What we were talking about today was the triggers, using pain as something, as your friend, as something good that's giving you the data. Now you're working on the smaller triggers, right? So you've already gotten through the big stuff, you're working on the small stuff, and now you're able to quickly figure out what you need to work on. It's a beautiful process. Beautiful process. I'm actually gonna scroll to the bottom real quick and just see if there's anything in regards to what Kayleen just said about the announcement. So Brian's saying Nancy's awesome. She'll make you feel totally comfortable. She is, she is amazing. We all love her. Love her to death. Dwayne says, I want to join the interview. Definitely outta my comfort zone. That, that's a good sign. If it's outta your comfort zone, that's a good sign. You should do it. And I would recommend you do it right now. Sign up, do it, commit. And Nancy will, you know, she'll send you certain questions so you can be prepared, but she'll guide you every step of the way. She'll make you feel comfortable and it'll be a great way to, to step outta your comfort zone and help people grow. Get a book. It's a, there are only wins. It's only, it's only up from there. And then Mimi also says, Bonnie is right about Nancy. She's great at making people feel comfy. And Teresa says, that's why I signed up, to push yourself out. That's awesome. Judy says, I've never done a video chat. It makes me pretty nervous. Quite a bit different than what I'm used to, I guess. Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's, it's good. It's good to be, it's good to be nervous, right? It's good to be nervous. Push yourself outta your comfort zone so you can grow, get acclimated to that, that new level. And Kayleen just put the, the link to schedule one of those inspiration interviews and Like she said, apparently there's 4 left unless somebody just took one. There are 4 spots left. So if you're interested, make sure to grab that right now. And then you can come back here and stay for the rest of the session. So I'm gonna scroll back up to the top and read through some of these comments, see if there's any questions. Judy said that, I love that and I can see it's so much better than I would have just a few months ago. Makes so much sense. And I wouldn't work too well before I was able to accept things instead of just stuffing it down and ignoring it with a smile. That's good. You know, being aware of, you know, you know, not just stuffing it down, just kind of perpetuates that cycle, or stuffing it down just kind of perpetuates that cycle. And if you wanna break outta that, you have to do something different. And now that you know the processing tools, you can, you can do that. And Judy also said, this would be so awesome to learn as kids. It would be taught in such simple ways to kids before they actually even need it. I agree. I agree. It's a, it's a great thing to, it could be a great thing to know.

Yeah.

You know, early on. And that's something that Kayleen really wants to do. She wants to work with kids and change curriculum, write kids' books and a bunch of stuff, a bunch of stuff. So that's definitely something we're, we're interested in doing as well. So the earlier you can learn it, right, better, better and easier it'll be. Maya says, so true. Just think about how much sooner many of us would've been able to get through our trauma by knowing these things. Yeah. Yeah. And that's part of the reason why we do this, do this is because we do see like there's this big, there's a big gap in in knowledge, in just world, in the world, in society where, you know, you don't know how to do these things. No one's really teaching these things like really anywhere. And that's what we saw. We're like, how come there's no one out there doing this to this level, to this degree? And that's what really got us into this in the first place. So we're hoping to build it bigger and bigger and reach more and more people and reach kids and help more people get the word out about these things. And you guys are helping that too. I mean, just signing up for that That success interview or whatever Kayleen's calling it is going to be huge, you know, to inspire more people. And it's all, we're all in this together to, you know, to kind of spread the message and help people and make the world a better place. So it's, it's a beautiful thing.

All right.

Mimi said, me too. Talk the same about pushing emotions down, being strong. Mimi said, dad was strong about being strong and not crying, and that made me cry.

LOL.

Yeah.

That can happen, right? And I see it kind of like as a balance between the two, knowing that there's a time to where you might need to, you know, not feel those emotions. So like if you're at work or in the middle of a meeting or doing something or whatever it may be, there are times where you need to be there because it is like, you know how to do that for a reason, right? Push those emotions down. But there's also a time to heal and let that go. And I think the problem is that we're so far on this one side where you never feel your emotions that you never address them, right? And then they just get stuffed down forever and you never spent any time to let them out, to explore them, to heal them, right? So, because it is good to be able to, like, there is use, right? There's utility to putting your emotions aside and doing what you know you need to do regardless of your emotions, right? And also there's a time where you need to deal with the emotions or else they'll just come up and bite you. But I definitely see there's a much bigger need for kind of that emotional education or mental health education there is than there is on the other side. So I don't think it's like a binary thing. I think you kind of need both and kind of walk the road in the middle and realize that they're both helpful. They're both, I think they're both elements of strength, but realizing when to use them is, I think, kind of what I'm learning or what I've learned. And then Theresa says, it's so ingrained in me. that when I don't show emotions, I get reflux until it makes me sick. And that's, I mean, that's a great thing right there to become aware of, right? That pushing those emotions down is causing you to have that emotion or that cause that physical reaction, right? So now you can use that, right? You can use the, use whatever that trigger is that you may have been pushing down in the past. You can use that trigger to do what we talked about today, analyze it, figure out what are the thoughts, emotions, feelings, belief and start processing that and healing that. So you don't have to go into that physical state and you can start healing it so you don't have to be stuck in that cycle anymore. So that's really cool. And that's a really great win, Teresa, to just, just become aware of that and be like, all right, this is, this is something that needs to be worked on. So that's awesome. All right. Joe says, are you going to Tony Robbins Summit Friday? No, we're not going to Tony Robbins on Friday. We're actually, we're going to fly down to Florida. We're going to take the weekend off. Kayleen has a Kayleen's parents have a place down there, so we're gonna spend the weekend there. And then we have a, it's like a business slash marketing conference that we're gonna go to in Florida, in Orlando. So that's gonna be fun. And that'll be the rest of next week. And then we're gonna come back the following weekend, if that makes sense. All right. Trying to get Judy's comment up. It was lagging on me a little bit. So Judy says, this week I was triggered by a thought and I was in a place that I could just stop and use rapid eye movement processing. It worked so quickly this time. Only made it through about 3 of the 12 reps before I was ready to go into installation, close, and recap. It was great. It's amazing, right? And that's the cool thing too, is that when you know these tools, you can use them. Like you, you can use them. Like if you're, if you're driving or something, you pull off on the side road for 5, 10, 15, 20 minutes, do the processing and get back on or wherever it is. Like you don't, it doesn't need to be a totally, it can be a discrete thing, right? So that's a cool thing about this, this process as well. And Judy, that's amazing. That's a huge win. Right there. And if you keep making that choice to process it, you're going to heal a lot faster. Because all of those emotions and thoughts, they're fresh, right? You don't have to pull them out from you.

They're fresh.

That's another beautiful part about being triggered is that everything is, everything's at the, at the top to be worked with. You don't have to pull anything out of you. It's right there. So you can deal with it and you can heal it right then and there. So actually, if you start processing when you are triggered, you separate from it and you start processing it, you can actually process it a lot quicker because it's already at the top of the surface. You don't have to go down and, you know, kind of dig it all up and figure it all out. It's like, it's right here. It's at the top. It's ready to be worked with. If I work with it right now, you can actually process it much quicker because you don't have to, you know, wait for all of that to come out. So that's a huge win, Judy. Huge win. If you keep doing that, you're just going to keep feeling better and better and process those things and those triggers will melt away. You'll start discovering parts of you that You've never seen before. It's a, it's a beautiful thing. Great session. I have a big one that I'm working on, and believe it or not, it came from a piece of art posted on Facebook. It led me to trauma between my mother and grandmother who both passed away. That's great. That's great. And it's, I mean, it's strange how certain things are, we just have these associations to certain things that we're totally unconscious about. Like we don't, like you had this association Right? From this, this piece of art to the trauma, and that made you, made that the trauma come top of mind. And now you can use that, you can use that data to go deeper into, into your healing. And that's a, that's a great thing. And it's a great realization, great awareness, and a huge win to Elaine. Huge win. Now you can start working on that, which is awesome. Alrighty. Let's see what else we got here. I still haven't cried in a year and 5 months since my husband passed. That'd be a great thing to work on. Great thing to work on because it's a skill that, that needs to be developed. You know, if you've been practicing going down that route of pushing down emotions for so long, it's going to take a little bit of time to build the skill of, you know, getting in touch with those and releasing them. If you want, you can look up a, we did a session on releasing inner emotions. We've talked about it quite a bit in various parts of the program, but we did a specific session on it. I believe it's session 13. Yeah. So it's session 13. If you go into the platform and you click on the little hourglass, Or the magnifying glass in the upper left-hand corner of the platform. You can search number 13, and that's releasing inner emotions. It's a session we did on that. Well, understand it's a skill. It's going to take some time. And to go at your own pace, but also understand that it's going to take time. And by time, I mean time to learn it. So you're actually going to have to spend time to try to learn it. So you have to spend the time to relax and try to feel those emotions and let those emotions out and See how they move in your body and all that stuff. So know that it's a process, but definitely check out that, that session, session number 13, where we went deep on just releasing emotions. And I can tell you, Theresa, that like, this was one of the hardest things for me, but also know that it's an essential skill that needs to be built if you want to, want to heal. And there's, there's a right way to release emotions and there's wrong, like a wrong way to release it. And the wrong way is when you, you're sucked into the emotions and you allow yourself to get sucked into the trigger and you're just in all this negative turmoil.

Yeah.

And then there's a more positive detached way to release emotions where you're still grounded in a, you're still grounded in the present and you're viewing at it more logically so you can learn the lesson, but you're in control of it. So that's what we kind of walk you through in that session. So I would, I would definitely, definitely check that out. Definitely check that out. That would help a lot. Lena says, I like what you said today after all the big trauma is over. That's why I'm having a hard time processing because I'm not sure what to process anymore. I'm not fully healed, but I like today's tips. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's, that's I plateaued too. So I processed all the big stuff and then I plateaued, but my life still wasn't great and I didn't know why. So Lena, your, your north star right now needs to be pain, whatever. It doesn't necessarily have to be like this big trigger, but just always be aware of your body and where you're holding tension, where you're holding stress, where you're holding pain. And that will be the doorway to further healing, right? Pain will be your best friend. So you want to use it as Like, uh, you wanna be like a heat-seeking missile onto the pain and you wanna follow it and you wanna dial in on it. Cuz then that will show you exactly what you need to work on. And that's what will help you kind of break through that plateau, I believe. Cuz that was my, my thing too, especially when you say, you know, I'm not sure what to process anymore. It's the pain. Look for the pain wherever it is. And you might just not be aware of the pain that you're experiencing. And you, like right now, you can scan your body, Lena, and just scan, am I holding any tension?

Yeah.

am I holding any pain inside of me? And you'll probably find something. And I did for a long time. Like, you'll probably find— you'll scan right now. If you're just— if you're standing, if you're sitting, wherever you are, take a few deep breaths, relax your body a little bit, and then just scan from, you know, head to toe. Where am I finding tension? Where am I holding pain? And then that will open— that will be the doorway to, you know, the root of that pain, to healing. that pain, right? But that'll be the thing you'll want to work on. So we always talk about how the body is the doorway to the mind, right? Because you hold emotions in your body, but you can use those emotions in your body as the doorway that leads you to, you know, the root of the trauma that's held in your mind. And obviously, emotions are in your mind as well, but just how we say that. Let's see where else. Lena says, yes, I'm looking forward to more pain now. And Lena, you might be able to reflect over the past week and just You know, where, when I say I'm not, let me look back at what you said. You say I'm not fully healed. So I would, I would go, I would ask, ask you a question of like, why, why do you say that you're not fully healed? Are you still experiencing a certain amount of pain? Are you experiencing depression, anxiety, whatever it is? Because you ask, why am I not fully healed? That also might lead you to what you need to work on next, whether it's depression or anxiety or whatever else you're feeling. But it's good that you're looking forward for the pain because that will show you exactly what it is. But You can reflect over the past week, where did I feel pain? And you can just start becoming more and more aware of when that pops up, and then you can start working on it, which is awesome.

Cool.

So Lena says, yes, anxiety and stress. So those are 2 things right there where you can start going deeper. You can do some introspective healing on that and start learning about it and start making connections of like, okay, why am I feeling this anxiety? So you can go through the 5 Whys, or you can just, you know, do the, follow the process that we teach for introspective healing. To start, you know, taking the anxiety or the stress at the top and bringing it down further and further and further to figure out the root or the different things that you need to change or the problems that you're facing so that you can actually come up with a solution for it. So that's what I would recommend in the beginning is taking that anxiety, breaking apart by asking or going through the process of introspective healing. You can use the 5 Whys technique, or you can just use the introspective healing technique and ask, you know, when was I feeling anxiety? Why did that cause me anxiety? And then just go down, basically go down the rabbit hole and make rabbit hole and make these connections. And eventually you'll come to the root problem where you can, where you can solve it. So then Nina says it's 20 illnesses is the most obvious. So I mean, that's something that you can, you can think about too, is like, what are the, what are the beliefs I hold around these, these illnesses, right? How do, how do you, how does having these illnesses make me feel? Right. And then you can ask why, and then you can, Always look for a solution to, to turn it into a way that you're able to deal. I don't want to say deal. Deal is not the right word I'm looking for, but that you can, you can face those illnesses with courage and with a positive mindset, as positive as you can be. And I'm not saying, I'm not saying that it's not hard either, Mina, because I imagine it's incredibly hard. However, I, I'm always of the belief that there is a way to make, to change our thinking to make it easier to deal with whatever pain we're feeling in reality. So I, I have that belief down to my, down to my core. So I believe that if, like, it, it's kind of the concept on a, on, on a larger scale of first starts and second starts, right?

Mm-hmm.

Like you have these 20 illnesses, right, that you're experiencing, then you might be beating yourself up about that, or you might be going down the rabbit hole of like, oh, my future, I can't do all these things because of these illnesses, or I've lost all these things. I can't do all these things in the past. And all of, all of those secondary thoughts that you're having, that you're layering on, are the second darts, are the second levels of pain that you're adding to the illness. So I'm not saying that you can remove all the pain from, from life. There's some, like, there's suffering and pain to life that we cannot control, right? Which in your case, and there might be things you can do about your illnesses. I don't know. I'm not a, a doctor or anything like that, but the illnesses are gonna be there. But we can change how we think about it. We can change the rest of the pain that we're causing ourselves. And that's what I want you to focus on because you can make the process, I believe you can be easy on yourself. You can still love yourself through it and you can change the way that you're thinking. I think that will help you alleviate a lot of the pain. So that's what I would focus on because obviously we can't change reality, but we can change how we perceive reality. We can change what we think about reality. And that's what I want you to kind of kind of focus on there. So hopefully that helps, helps you through that and see it and break it out to hopefully accept where you are and then see where you can kind of make some corrections in your thinking where you might be causing yourself more pain. That's kind of the angle that I would take, take with that. And then like becoming aware of like all the different areas that you are self-inflicting pain because of this reality that you can't change, right? Because a lot of, a lot of our pain comes from, we have this pain in reality that we can't change. We have this first start and we resist it. We don't want to do that to be true. And then we just cause ourselves more and more pain because we fight that reality. We'd be like, I don't want that to be true. Now that I went through this, I can't do this. And I lost this and this happened and this happened and this happened. And we're just layering on all this pain. You know, there's this one pain, but then we just layer on and we stack on all this other pain on top of it. So I hope that can give a little perspective on it and maybe kind of separate out those two. 2 types of pain, like the pain of reality and the self-inflicted pain. So hopefully I can help. Awesome. Awesome. Lena says, yes, thank you. Good. It's, it's, it's a, I mean, like those topics, they're so, they're so challenging cuz it's, I mean, I can't even imagine you going through 20+ illnesses, Lena, and like, that's a challenging thing. But I, again, I'm, I'm the person who I, I believe we can always work to make things better. I, I believe that we can always at least bring ourselves find that inner peace within ourselves. And even though I haven't gone through what you've gone through, and it's a hard, it's a hard question, you know, to answer, like when you bring that up, it's like, man, that's a challenging thing. And at the same time, I believe there are things that you can do to make it better for you and that you're able to endure the pain and the suffering that life has just handed you and in a beautiful way, you know? So, and I'm by no means saying that it's easy, but. I do believe that it is worth it. So good. So Lena says, thank you. You've given me things to work with. Good. I'm glad. Hopefully you can move forward and make some progress with that. And I look forward to hearing back to see how it goes. But yeah, so that'll be it for, for today's session. Thank you guys so much for showing up. Thank you, Lena, for, you know, showing up and sharing everything. That takes a lot of courage to do that in a group like this, in a community. So thank you for that. Thank you, Lisa, for showing up. Thank you, Joe. Bonnie, Jeanette, Teresa, Delaine, and thank you, Delaine, for signing up again. That was awesome. Whoops. All right. Judy, Mimi, and anybody else that I'm missing. Sorry, I just turned on the audio, so I cut myself off. So great job today. Remember, move forward throughout the day. Whenever you see that pain, whenever pain comes up or pain gets triggered inside of you, look at it more objectively. Look at it more logically. Separate yourself from the pain and start breaking it out and coming up with a plan to how to Fix it at the root. Even if you don't fix it immediately, write it down or just make a mental note of, okay, I had this trigger and it brought up these emotions. I need to process this at some time. So bring that forward into your life today. Remember, pain is your friend. And what was the second one? The second one was something I actually forgot. Maybe you guys can help me with that one. Pain is your friend. And what was that second one? Kaylin's not here to save me. It's just data. There it is. It's just data. So bring that forward. Have a wonderful day. It's just pain, or pain is your friend and it's all data. Thank you, Mimi. Thank you, Lena. Thank you so much. Have a beautiful day and I will see you guys tomorrow. Hey everybody.

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