2 Moms Reveal Secrets to Their Multimillion Dollar Business

All you ladies out there who are tired of asking your husbands for money, tired of telling your children no, tired of robbing Peter to pay Paul to pay bills that are bigger than the amount of money you have coming in every month. Oh, you're in the right place at the right time now, because I'm about to introduce you to two young ladies that are going to absolutely blow your mind and show you how to make it rain like nobody's business. For moms and their families, I have with me today none other than Macy McNeely and Kathryn Shubert. Glad to have you on the show.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, coach.

My pleasure. My pleasure. Okay, so y' all are known around the country and around the world as the salesgirls.

Yes, sir.

And so my question is, like, the sales girls, where did that whole thing come from? And how is it that y' all have a successful. Your two moms, two young moms, a successful business teaching women how to sell. How did, like, where did that all start?

Well, it didn't start there, I'll tell you that much. It actually started with us being even younger than this, trying to sell, knowing that our future self wanted to have something for our families and make something of ourself. That was actually a big prayer that I remember a lot was, God, make something of me. And so in the process of not loving the 9 to 5 grind, got.

Into 9 to 5 grind.

Had a 9 to 5 grind. I was a dietitian.

I worked in ministry.

Okay.

We both embarked on network marketing journeys separately. Weren't friends or anything. And both really struggled, like, were quite.

Terrible on the struggle bus.

Owned the struggle bus. My picture was on the side. Hers was on the other side.

You owned the struggle.

Exactly. Exactly. And in.

I didn't identify as someone who did bad at stuff. I identified as someone who won at the things I did. Not perfect, but if I worked hard.

Enough, you could win.

I could win. And selling proved to be really different.

Yeah. I mean, we would describe ourselves as high achievers just in sports and in school and just. Exactly. Our hard work always paid off. And when you go into business or.

You don't get a pass because you did good in school, do you.

You don't get a grade. Right. And that grade is like, you did good or you did bad. And in business, it's like, if you make money, you do good. The work itself isn't enough.

Right.

And that was so painful.

It's interesting that in, like, when you get a job, you get paid for your time, but when you own a business, you get paid for results, and if you don't produce a result, you don't get paid. A lot of people don't realize that.

Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And. And I was really trying to sell on Instagram, and network marketing was such a great start because all you have to do is sell.

Trying to sell network marketing on Instagram, network products.

Yeah.

Okay.

And it was such a great start because all you do is sell. Right? You don't have to build anything. You just have a product that you sell and you have a link and you get commission. And my dad was watching me on Instagram and you know, of course he's your parents, your biggest cheerleaders. He wants the best for you. But he would say things like, macy, you are so ashamed to sell. Like, you're talking about everything but the product. And I just wanted to be relatable. And so I would share my whole life thinking that people would know what I was doing, that they would assume that they could just buy something from me. And he was like, you're just not being, like, direct or clear. Like, let me teach you how to sell. And it's funny, Myron, he.

So did you resist that when your dad said that to you?

My whole. I will tell you, since high school, he has begged us to learn how to sell siblings, one sister. Yes. In fact, I have a memory of bringing my now husband, but my boyfriend at the time, for dinner. And he would have Dennis Whiteley playing on the big spot. I don't know if you know who Dennis Waitley is.

Of course I know who Dennis Waitley is.

He just wanted us to know these principles so bad. At our family trip, he brought a projector and workbooks for sales skills. And he would bring him on the beach.

I don't know what you think you're doing, but I ain't. No but. It's vacation.

But, you know, he grew up really poor. And the one thing that he knew that would help him break out of the. The jail that he crap was how to sell. He just had this inkling, if I learn how to sell, I can do this. And he had generations of poverty, and this was the thing. So he knew if he could pass this down to us, we could carry it, we'd be okay.

Yeah.

And it wasn't something parents care about. They want their kids to be okay. Yeah, that's right. And it wasn't until the results were not there, I was so desperate. Finally, I was. I was ready.

Okay, dad, teach me how to sell.

I was I was ready. And for six months, I went to his office every day. I sat beside him. He would teach me. We role played. And then I'd practice it in the world. I'd go on Instagram, I'd get on sales calls, I would implement, implement, implement. I'd come back and do it again. And over time, I finally looked up and looked at the scoreboard. I was so busy playing the game, and I had my first $10,000 a month, and I could. Not coming from ministry. What? Coming from ministry, I was.

What did you do in ministry?

Children's ministry. I really managed volunteers. And I loved. I learned so much. But I was like, oh, my. And then all of a sudden, I was like, this is what is missing for everybody. I would watch other people sell on Instagram. I'm like, oh, my gosh, they don't have what I have. I had the stuff. I have the key. And that's where it all started.

So good. Now, interestingly enough, you said, okay, we were used to winning. We weren't friends or anything. That whole story, like, y' all didn't know each other, but y' all had some commonalities. Y' all have some commonalities, even though y' all didn't really know each other. Who wants to share that part of the story? Because that's really fascinating.

So I'll tell this part quickly, then I'll get to that. Because we did know each other through. Through the grapevine. We had one strong acquaintance, and I knew of her. And so because I knew of her, I followed her on Instagram, and I'm watching this girl, Macy McNeely, change before my eyes.

So you saw her when she couldn't sell. Now all of a sudden, she can sell. Wait, what'd she do?

I mean, she didn't even have my attention. I just knew who she was. And all of a sudden, she's, like, moving and grooving in energy. And she didn't know she was a sales girl, but she became one before everybody's eyes, and it became this essence and influence that was just magnetic. And she didn't say this, but her and her dad, like, created this training from the ashes of the Excel sheet that he had developed since the 80s. And I was one of the first students to take said training because I saw what I needed to see, and it changed my life, too. But some of those commonalities that are just so ironic because God kept us separate for so long, we have the same.

Did y' all grow up in the same town?

We did.

You grew up in the same town, but you didn't know each other. Yeah, but you'll have, like, similar birthdays or something.

We had the same exact birthday.

Same exact.

May 30, 1992.

For anyone born the same hospital.

Same hospital.

Both of our mom's names are Linda. On the same day.

Mom's names.

And we got married.

Y' all weren't switched to birth rate?

No, we were not. It could be like our Social Security numbers are one apart. Yeah. Yeah.

That's crazy.

And then we got married on May.

29, the day before your birthday.

2015. Both of us did.

Both got married on the same day without planning that. Still didn't know each other yet. Really weren't friends.

But I just know if we were friends, we would not be in business together. I just know it. Like, I know that because our relationship is built on building this, you know, and so God kept us parallel, but not together on purpose. There's no doubt in my mind. And so when she took the training, she. We had this thing where people would come every single time we did it because it was so life changing that repetition is king. And she would just come to our training space and sit right up front and just start raising her hand and start sharing and adding value to the point. I was like, do you just want to come up here and, like, help teach this? Next thing you know, she's just invaluable. Now we're business partners.

Wow. And we've so good.

Taken an old school sales training and turn it into the sales girl.

So here's a question I have for you. Okay. Your dad teaches you the system. This girl takes it, you invite her to become a business partner. Weren't you, like, concerned about not making enough money?

She is what made it blow up.

Wow.

So she was pivotal in the growth.

So the whole idea that 50% of a watermelon is more than 100% of the grape really applies to your business?

Yeah. I mean, we just care so much. I know people say we care about the mission all the time, but that is money is a byproduct of moving the mission forward. And that is like, her spirit is. I care about how transformational this is. And one thing about Kat is, like, she knows that rewards come on the other side, whether it's right away or later. Like, her story proves that to be over and over and over again. And she just trusts the process. And she is a genius and a rock star. So she's a huge gift.

Wow. That's a Blessing. That's a blessing. So you said you had your first ten thousand dollar month and you're like, wait a minute, I looked up, I saw I had my first ten thousand dollar month. And you're, Were you a mom at that time when you had your first time?

No.

Were you married yet?

I was married, yes.

But you didn't like. And you were married and doing ministry. So $10,000 a month was not even on the, in the, on the radar screen?

No.

So what would you say to moms out there right now, wives and mothers out there right now who cannot even imagine a $10,000 month. They're literally raking and scraping to figure out how to pay the light bill. What would you say to them?

I'm gonna say without. Yeah, okay.

Well, you can cry if you want to.

No, I'm not gonna cry. I just would. So when I took this training I'm talking about, I had three week old. My now five year old was three weeks old. So at the time where, you know, women are so fragile, understandably and vulnerable and can't think straight was when my life turned around in so many ways. I, I recognize, I recognize myself again. And so what I would tell someone is you are more than capable. Now is the time. And there is someone on the other side of your influence that is waiting for you to sell them on themselves.

Somebody on the other side of your influence. Wow.

Like they're waiting for you to cast vision for them. I don't know if it's your teenager who won't use their acne wash. I don't know if it's your network marketing business, that there's a whole group of people who don't believe in themselves. But when you believe in you and you believe that they have value, that there's a payoff for them. Like someone's waiting to follow you. Like you are meant to lead.

So good. So good. Well, clearly, I mean, you wouldn't have children if you weren't meant to lead. Right.

That's part of the whole parenting point.

It's like a parent's job is to create transformation, to turn this irresponsible, semi responsive child into a responsible.

That's exactly right.

Who.

Pleases God and serves people.

That's exactly right. One of the things we really believe about sales is that sales is because of the skill of persuasion. And we say if you're not persuading, you're waiting. And so, you know, with moms and kids, not everyone we teach and serve is a mom, but it's Such a good example. Because it's like I'm waiting for my kid to understand. I'm waiting for them to wake up. I'm waiting. Or my team. I'm waiting for my team to get it. I'm waiting for my audience to get it.

It's like persuading.

You're waiting.

If you're not persuading, you're always gonna be waiting. I'm waiting. I'm waiting for them to Money. Yeah, I'm waiting.

You're waiting for the money.

And then that creates, you know, maybe an attitude of, you know, it's. It's their responsibility to come to me when in so many ways, your message plays offense so good.

You came. You came out with the bars from that. Your message plays offense. Yeah. Macy, you may say something.

Well, and I also just think, you know, there's like, your message that you sell for the people that need you. And then there's also just being a mom and. And having a skill and a. And a mission to pursue is lifechanging. And I really believe that when you have a business, you are a better mom. The biggest sales job of all is selling your family on what is best for them. And that's one of the things I'm so thankful for. My dad growing up, I like to say I grew up in a sales cultured home because if there was a problem or if there was something he wanted me to do, he would come beside me, right? He'd get literally on the same side of the table with me and sell me on why it mattered for me. Why it mattered for me to come home and not go to the bonfire with all the teen. Other teenagers, right? Why it mattered to really pursue the grades and work hard because of the work, not because of the result. And it made me go off to college and really think about, like, who I wanted to become more than. Because my dad told me so, told me so, right? And so when you have these skill sets as a mom, you create a culture of a family that does stuff because of, like, what they see on the other side of them. So it's this. Both sides of, like, you get to create a business and you get to create income and have options. Like, that is the biggest thing for me is with money comes options. And you also get to become the mom that people that your kids are proud of.

You become your own. Your kids. Superhero, right? Good stuff. So. So y' all have this business, sales girls now, where you teach women how to sell, and then you help women get placed in sales positions. As well or not yet? Not really that part.

Not quite. Not quite, but I can definitely see. Well, it's just so crazy because people will kind of come into our world and their next question is, how can I get one of you a sales girl in our business? Because of the. The charisma. Right. And the irresistible magnetic energy that comes with knowing how to sell.

So good. So good. So. So how long have y' all had this business now?

It's coming up, like, five and a half years.

Five and a half years. So did y' all come out of the gates with grand success or was it a ramp up?

It was a ramp up to a plateau.

Okay. To another ramp up from where to where.

So, yeah. So out of the five years in Myron, we've done a million dollars for three years. About. About a million into a million and a half. Three years out of the five.

So that's a million a year? A million and a half for three years out of five?

Yes. Okay.

Was that the first three years?

It was year three, four and five.

Okay.

Yeah.

So I want to know what you did the first two years.

Well, it's so interesting. So I had this audience of network marketing audience, really, and it was in the fitness world. And as my dad and I were putting together this. This training, I was kind of converting my current audience into audience that might want sales training. And what I did was sell beliefs of why I believe sales skills are life skills. So for a whole year, I was like, creating.

You guys have all these little quips and quotes. Sales skills. Sales skills or life skills? That was really good.

They are. They are so critical to just really get what you want in life, honestly. And so for a year, I would get on Instagram stories, we talked about this, and I would just sell why sales skills or life skills. Sales skills or life skills? Had all you said today actually find all these different ways to say the same message. That was my obsession for about a year. And when the training was ready and it was time to open cart, people were already believing and thinking what they needed to think in order to buy. And so I think the first round, it was like, we charged like $700 and maybe like 20 people bought, which was like.

Crazy.

$14,000.

Oh, my gosh. And I'm like, now we gotta deliver on this. We were on coaching calls for three hours at a time. I mean, it was the roller coaster of a lifetime. And then we just increased the price a little bit. Increase a little bit. A little bit. And. But I will say, like, so Much of my time was spent in selling and sales conversations. So while people were buying, it was not like sales in your sleep by any means. It was the, you know, it was a lot of. But that is what made me who I am personally. And then. Yeah, just over time.

Like, year two had to have been. I think it was about 800,000.

Yeah.

Because. Yeah. You're the year three or the first full year two was the million dollar year.

And I know that. I know where y' all are at now. That doesn't seem like a lot, but to me, having a business that does. 800,000, you're saying, what do you think you did in your first year?

This. The selling, the beliefs.

No, I mean, how much revenue?

Oh, maybe August to December would be the first.

Yeah. Maybe like three or 400. Yeah. All of that. Just.

See, here's. And here's what I'm getting at. Like, I can't relate to that.

Yeah.

The average for $300,000 in revenue. I know that's not all profit, but $300,000 in revenue, your first year of business, to me, just sounds like a grand slam.

Yeah.

Where you're at now, it's not that big of a deal.

I get. Yeah.

But to me, like, I was in business for 18 months.

Yeah.

Before I made my first one. $26.

100%.

And that's how. When we hear your story, that's how I felt in network marketing.

Yeah.

Like, okay, I'm making $600 a year. You know, this is like, not going to work.

How long were you doing network marketing before you started?

Like, three years.

Yeah.

It was not good.

I'm telling you. And that was my path, too. Right.

Okay, so you were making.

Oh, 100%. It was so hard. See, that's.

See, I. I think people look at people like you. So. And they think, okay, well, you started your business. You made $300,000 your first year. I'm not like that. Well, but you're not like that.

Oh, no.

Because you did network marketing to find out what didn't work for three years before you found something that would work.

I mean, I. I questioned my entire identity.

Yeah.

Because I couldn't sell. I didn't call it. I can't sell. I called it. I. No one likes me. I called it. I must not be who I thought I was. You know, I can get into this university to do this internship, and I can do all these cool things, but I can't get someone to buy a face wash. Like, what is wrong with me is what I thought for two years. And so I truly thought I must not be who I always thought I was. And that was probably the most. And there was a moment I was pregnant with my first child. I was at a campsite with my in laws because they like to camp. I don't. I prefer the five star Neiman Marcus life and I like camping as long.

As the JW Marriott.

Yeah, exactly. So I'm sitting there pregnant, right, about to be have ownership over this other human's life, and I'm like, I guess, I guess this is it. I guess I go on vacation with my in laws. I guess I don't make money. I guess this vision I had for this great life, this great life is just gonna be.

Like mediocre. And settling for mediocre for me was rock bottom period. And then it was a few months. And this is also kind of overlapping with the time that I was watching her and I didn't know what she was doing. I just knew there was something that I felt. And so a few months later is when I was able to step into a skill where, yes, I became unrecognizable to everyone around me, but I finally recognized myself.

There's another one of those quips. Did y' all see what she just did? Okay, yeah. So good stuff. So.

300,000 your first year, 800,000 your second year. And then the last three years plateaued at about a million to a million and a half.

Yes. And it was like no matter what we added, no matter more people, more options, more offer more, more opt. Like it just stayed the same. And, and then that's when we found you, Myron. We were in traffic, actually headed to school or to drop our kids off, and. And I was like, I have listened to every podcast that I can listen to. I've listened to every auto audiobook. I'm. I'm going to pull up YouTube. And I pulled up YouTube and you were the first one that popped up. I said, who is this cat right here? Next thing you know, I'm sending it to the team. I'm like, we're all in traffic, you know, on the way, everyone listening, everyone's listening to this on the way. We'll talk about in the office. And that's really begin our journey.

Do you remember what the first video was?

I could not tell you. I couldn't tell you. I wish I could. But that started our journey of like, there is a better way. There's a better way to help people get these same results and break out of this Plateau. And that's been our process. And then we joined your challenge, and here we are.

I will say that those plateaued years, what I would encourage anyone in is even if the growth isn't happening, like, there were so many reps in helping people, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people who did learn sales skills, and they were able to go from wondering if they could ever break past a $70,000 launch or doing $100,000 launches within another month. You know, just seeing themselves as valuable enough to sell and knowing that it can feel really good for them and the person on the other end and they can play offense in their life. They don't have to wait around for someone to compliment their earrings to get a sale, you know, because that's how girls can be sometimes. If I'm pretty enough, if I have a nice enough kitchen, then people will be interested in me.

Nice enough? What?

Kitchen?

Kitchen.

You know, if my house is cool enough, if my kids are cute enough, and I'll get the attention. Like, that's the attention that people can sometimes want.

Right.

But what we're saying is your message can be magnetic and that be. And. And people can see themselves in your message, not you being the. On the.

You know, you're making them the hero.

Exactly. So that was fun. And that's been.

Or in your case, you're making them the shero. See what I did there?

You know, in those years of plateau, we did new webinars. I mean, once a quarter, but sometimes more. And you know, webinar is like a new message. It's like a new challenge, basically, like every single quarter. And you know how you say the work that's not working for you, it's working on you? That worked. Worked on us and is the very thing that made us who we are today, truthfully, to have a breakout of.

That plateau, that many iterations.

Oh, my gosh.

You knew. You knew the answer.

Think about it. It was like a three hour presentation, plus all the emails, plus all the messaging to get them to the webinar, plus the sales after the webinar. I mean, it was. People do this once a year, and we were doing it four times a year, no questions asked, plus info calls, plus, you know, workshops, just to sell our message and. And to have the skills to do that, like the sales skills to plug into any strategy. And that's the thing. A lot of people obsess over the strategy. Do I do a webinar? Do I do a challenge? Do I do a podcast? Do I do YouTube? And what we believe is that any strategy works with sales skills. Strategy is like a cup. Like you could drink out of a yeti or you could drink out of a water bottle. It's different experience. Exactly. Different experience. As long as the juice inside is sweet and delicious, it doesn't matter. And that's been really powerful is to try all these strategies but have the skill that we know. Whatever strategy we try or enter into, we know it's going to work, period.

Because the sales skills are life skills.

They are life skills.

That's right.

See, I'm, I'm picking up.

We've indoctrinated you already.

That's right.

Yeah.

Good stuff. Good stuff. So. So now businesses growing. Ish. Growing.

Oh yeah.

Business is growing.

What is it that you anticipate for the people who are listening to you talk right now and the moms who are thinking, like, what's your message for moms who are sitting there listening right now thinking, you know, I just want to get my kids some new school clothes, right? So they don't have to wear the. I want to get them more than three new outfits for the school year or I want to get, I want to, I want to take a nice vacation for a change and not just go camping with the in laws. Right. So like, what is the message to those moms right now?

You know, I, what I want moms to know so badly is that it, a business is simply a way to take payment and to deliver a. And to deliver a result. It can be so simple. I talked to a lot of people who think about starting a business and I swear they think about business cards and stationary, websites and branding and oh, I need a studio. I got to get all this equipment. And all you have to do is communicate a message and care and believe in someone else that they can have the life that they want in a way to accept payment and that is it. There's all it takes.

It's interesting. Like, I'm listening to this audiobook right now called Building a Story Brand.

Yes.

And the guy said, when you're selling to people, they need to know two things. You have empathy and you are an authority.

That's right.

You feel what they feel, but you're also an authority. You know what you know. So, so. And that's what I hear from both of you when I'm talking to you, which is fascinating to me because both of you are younger than my youngest child, right? So, so I'm like.

How does like do people? Are people taken back by how young and yet still Successful you are. Are people taken back by that?

I honestly don't think about it often.

Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know.

I don't think about being a woman that often, and I don't think about my age that often because I know if I think about it, then it's going to make them think about it. Kind of project my thoughts on them when it. To me, it's a non. It's not relevant. So that's how I choose to think about it.

There you go.

People probably think about it a lot, honestly, but.

Well, sometimes when I hear y' all say things, I'm thinking to myself, how can you know that already? So, like, I think that it doesn't cause me to disbelieve you. I'm just kind of blown away.

That's really sweet, people.

Young. As young as you are. Like, my daughter, she's the CEO of our company and she's brilliant. Like a year. Yeah, she's brilliant. She's a year older than y'. All. And like we were having a meeting and she was telling me all the stuff she's working on. All the stuff. Like, where did you learn all this stuff? You didn't learn it from me because.

I don't know it. We read a lot as well.

Okay. Like, yeah, that's. Boy, there's a gate.

We read a ton. And you know, I don't just read, I study. So I'll read a book and I will like, study it, memorize it, teach on it to make sure it becomes who Like a part of me more than. I think that's been huge. And I mean, Myron, like, when I exercise, I listen to something when I'm driving, I listen to something when I'm doing dishes, I listen to something when I. And especially growing those brain cells telling you what. And when I had my. I have a 10 month old right now and just up in the night and feeding him. Like, I would put up your YouTube channel sometimes and just set it to the side and put my AirPod in any waking moment of quiet, I like to listen to something and then be able to create because nothing good can come out if nothing comes in. And you know, when you. When you keep reading, you. You stay. I think a lot of people who don't read can have like a lethargic mind, as I like to say, and it's just stagnant. It's like you sit in your own filth, honestly. Whereas reading is just a constant flow of fresh water. That's really good. That you can pour onto others. It's so critical, so good.

So a lot of people think that selling is some kind of underhanded, illegitimate scheme that people resort to when they can't, quote, get a real job. But not only are y' all overcoming that in your example, y' all also wrote a book called Persuade for Good.

Yeah.

How to be the Person of Influence who Changes the world One conversation at a time. Great title. Great subtitle. Haven't read the book yet, but I'm expecting it to be a great book. So clearly you don't believe that selling is something you do to people. It's something you do for people. Talk about that.

Oh, my gosh.

The coolest thing about selling, learning to sell and then starting to sell. You gotta get into the action of selling, right? Is you get sold.

Come on, now.

And so the spirit comes alive in you, and you start to the light in people's eyes. They are brighter when they learn to sell one. It's so cool. I mean, I got a selfie video of asking my husband, I need to find it. And I said, have I changed since I did this training? And he was like, oh, yeah. Like, it was. It was concerning how quick of a response. But I was lighter on my feet, you know, I wasn't weighed down and tired and bored with my own life. You know, I came alive. And so when you're sold and you realize you have a gift for somebody and you want to give that gift, and then they're happy they got the gift. Say, what am I supposed to do?

Stop?

Of course I'm going to keep doing this. And then you see the trickle of, now you get to go give a gift. Now you get to go give a gift.

So it's a compounding effect.

It's a compounding effect. And so the more people who learn to sell and persuade for good. When we say persuade for good, we mean that you believe that what you have can benefit someone else. You have an obligation and a duty to do this.

But King Solomon said, Proverbs 14:26. If you have something good, you have a moral obligation. Do everything in your power to sell it to as many people as possible. He that withholdeth the corn, the people shall curse him. But blessing shall be upon the head of him that selleth it.

Yeah, we believe that with all our heart.

Yeah.

So good.

Macy, go ahead, talk to me, sister.

I just love how you talk about convincing and persuading and how they're so different, you know, another opposites, Right? Well, a word for Convince is defeat. And what we believe is your prospect is not your opponent. You are partners. You are partners.

Partners.

I mean, I just love, like, when I'm in a room with someone, I do everything I can to physically sit beside them because I don't ever want them to feel like I'm not on their team. But I. Myron, I might give you something that you can use. You might like it. Do you know the word persuade? When you break it up, per means through to completion. And suede means to advise. So when you persuade, you're advising through to completion. And so, like, how good does it feel not only to invite someone to a decision, but then and beyond and beyond is to actually buy in. Do exactly what you promised yourself that you're gonna do. And you know, you have recurring clients, and most people have recurring clients. They want them or they want them or they require their prospect to do something recurringly. Right. You can't just run one time. You've got to run consistently. You've got to eat healthy consistently. So through to completion beyond is like.

You can't do one push up and be like it fit.

That's right. That's exactly right. So the sales job honestly just begins. Once they buy and they're in a decision, it just begins to get them to actually take action so that they can get the results. So that's what's really exciting about sales skills, is that you help them buy from you and get the results so that you can be word like, your word of mouth can be so powerful as well.

And it's so cool. Now, even though y' all have written a book and you all have a business, like, you're teaching people the skill of selling.

Yeah.

So that they can. They don't have to have something that they sell for themselves. They can sell somebody else's offer.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

They can sell a network marketing offer. They can sell an Amazon offer. They can sell whatever. It's about being persuasive.

So we talk about coming alive. People will come in selling one thing. They learn how to actually. And maybe they thought it was going to be easy. Oh, it's easy to sell makeup. It's easy to do whatever. They come and they learn how. And they have a superpower persuasion.

I got to make sure I use it on something that's going to be.

Find something expensive, girl, you know? Find something expensive and sell it, you know?

Yeah. In our program, like, you learn a lot about human nature because of course, you're selling the product, but when you really understand people and pair it with the results. I. You can sell anything. Product knowledge and people knowledge is what you need. And when you can do that, you can sell anything.

So good. Yeah, so good. So moms that are listening to you right now, they're like, you know, I didn't think I wanted to learn how to sell, but if it can give me, like vacations that I can take apart from my in laws and I don't have to tell my children no every time they ask for something, or even worse, tell my children no before they even ask for something, and I can contribute to our family's finances. I'm all in. How can they find out more about how to become a sales girl?

Yeah. Well, we have a challenge called a sell your offer challenge. And you know what's really powerful about this challenge? Someone just wrote a review and said it's like Red Bull for your mind, Red Bull for your business. And it just really ignites you into energy and momentum. In fact, we just had a woman that coaches real estate agents. She had an $8,000 sale from just learning one thing in the challenge.

Wow.

So this is something that you, especially if you have offer at all that you are selling, we have a framework that you can plug right in in this challenge and really take off just in five days. It's really powerful. Wow.

So cool. So what's, what's. Where do they find that again?

Sell your offer challenge dot com.

And we'll have a link for sell your offer challenge in the description and as well as a link where you can get the persuade for good companion guide.

That's what I'm so good stuff. We made it a pocket size for a reason. You know, we know moms in her.

Purse and then they're on the ground. Kids come out of school. Here we go.

I'm telling you what, you know, when Macy and I co wrote that book and she's clearly brilliant and you know, being a human, you just, you. You get in your own head sometimes. And so I will be coached by this book regularly.

So you use it like you refer to this yourself. So it's not just a how to book, it's a how to book that's also a reference.

It's like how to think book how to think.

Wow.

Yeah.

And that was our goal here, is for someone to have that Red Bull for their mind. And then the challenge is such a great companion because it's, let's get into action with this in mind. Let's get it into action so that you feel that momentum and energy going into the work that God's called you to do.

Good stuff. Good stuff. Good stuff. Good stuff.

All right.

Well, I'd say that people got some help watching this video today. Are there any last words, like parting words that either one of you or both of you would like to share with you moms? Like, like, if you're going to give them your William Wallace speech, your Mr. Smith goes to Washington for sales girls. What would that be?

Our heart is that you would know that you are meant to be and born to be a sales girl that can lead your family, can lead a tribe of people who would love, love.

Love, love to be led by you.

Good stuff. Good stuff. Good stuff. Macy, you want to add more?

I mean, I just want to talk to the mom who, who thinks that building a business and making money would take away from being a mom and thinking that you have to sacrifice and you have to choose. And as someone who, literally all I thought about growing up is that I would be a stay at home mom. All I had was stay at home moms all around me. Not a single one of my friends moms worked. And I had no role model or vision of what that could ever look like. And you know, I had this business before I had a baby. And I just remember thinking, like, I've gotten myself into a situation where I have this responsibility and I have this mission and I want to keep it, but I also want to have kids. How do I make it work? And as someone who knows exactly what that feels like, I have to tell you that when you learn how to sell, you can know that in the small time that you are working, you know, it's making money. There's nothing worse than sitting down to work and not knowing if you're moving the needle. And I know it feels like you need a photo shoot, it feels like you need branding, it feels like you need a website. It feels like you need to spend all this money to get everything in place before you make money. But you can know that when you have an hour, when you have two hours in that nap time, when you can sell and you know, jump on Instagram. Jump on Instagram. That's why I love Instagram stories, is because it's such a low risk and it doesn't take hardly any thought. You can just jump on, send voice memos and make money truthfully, almost instantly. And it doesn't take away from your family. You become someone better and you become someone that your kids are so proud of.

Mm, so good. So good. So all of you moms. You know what you've been looking for? You know what you've been desiring for your family, for your children, for yourself. Financially, I believe that this is an avenue worth pursuing. So I look forward to seeing you sometime soon as a sales girl. It's going to be absolutely fabulous. Thanks for watching.