Wife Wanted a Divorce Until He Did This | Real Marriage Turnaround

I've seen the changes in you, and I, you know, I can see myself, um, reconnecting and spending the rest of my life with you with some of the changes you've done. And that's when it happened, when it started coming around.

Hey, so today I've got with me Will Smith, who's, uh, had a great transformation within his marriage. And Will's very gracefully agreed to join us today to, to share his story with us. So thank you for, for coming today, Will. And start out, like, share with us where you were at when when you came to us, what was going on in your marriage and where you're at now, and then we can talk about how you kind of got from where you were to where you are.

Oh yeah, thanks for having me, Cody. Certainly, I'll share. So where I was at was in a very bad place, like going towards divorce. My wife had enough of my emotional ways of treating her, and it was just, separating us apart, and she wanted out of the relationship. And, um, and now where I'm at, it has turned completely around where she wants to reconcile and sees a change in me and thinks that all the things that I've done so far has been just great, and she can see herself moving forward with me right now. It's completely changed around.

So she was pretty much out of the marriage. I mean, you came to us, I think it was about October of last year. It's been quite a while actually. So is that right, around October of last year?

Yes, indeed. Yes, it was October when I joined.

Yes. Sure, sure. And she was pretty much out of the marriage at that point. Is that correct?

Yes. We started getting in some— it was around August is when she said that, you know, she's had enough. And she wanted out. And I started looking at things on my own. And of course, I tried begging and all that, and none of that worked. But by the time August— not August, September, October timeframe came around, I found the program. And that is when I really started to dive deep in and find out a lot about myself.

So how quickly, Will, did you start to see things, things change once you once you joined us?

So I would say it took about 5 months to see things change, but it was in little snippets. It was like in little steps. It wasn't all at once. And I think for most of us men, we want changes to happen rapidly, but we just can't have that done. We can't control the situation.

Yeah, no, that's brilliant. I mean, I think that's a great point to bring up. Like a lot of times, men whose wives leave them or they're in a very dire situation, they want to know what they can do now to turn this around right now. And sometimes it just takes a little while, right? I mean, like I like to say, like your marriage has died or is dying a death of a thousand cuts and it's gonna take a thousand Band-Aids before it gets healed. So was there a point, Will, where you could see that this is moving in the right direction now? Was there a turning point where you could actually see light at the end of the tunnel?

Yeah, there were a few points, and there were a couple times when I wanted to have some deep conversations with her. And when I spoke, I sat down and I spoke with her, I kind of brought to her attention what I saw in myself, which I've never seen before until I dug deeper into myself. And for her, I can see it in her eyes that I finally got it. All the things that she's been seeing before, which I was oblivious to. So it was a couple of those situations when I had those talks with her that I can see that she saw that. And then slowly I saw her started coming around a little bit and talking to me a little bit more and reaching out to me.

So what, what were some of those aha moments for you? Or what were some of those things that you, you got it? Where were you, where were you not getting it? Then finally you got it, and that made like the real difference within the marriage for her?

So one of the things was looking in the mirror and putting myself in her shoes. And once I started writing down the things, going back to all the things she complained about, and I put it down on a note, and then I put myself in her shoes, it was like a light bulb went off, like, wow, this is what I did to her, all this, in certain situations. That made me realize I've been treating her wrong the entire time and I should have been treating her this way. And I was a real, you know, I don't want to use any kind of curse words, but I was a real dick about it.

Yeah.

And when I realized that and I brought it to her attention that, oh, I remember this day when I did this and there was another date when I did this when we were traveling here and. And then she said, yeah, you finally see it. And those was one of those aha moments for me.

Yeah. No, that's, that's fantastic. And one of, one of the things we say all the time, right? It's like, never grade your own homework. And, and a lot of times guys go, well, I've done that, or I'm doing this. And the reality is that, that they're not doing it at all. And, and you, it's very difficult to fix the problem when you don't know that there's the problem there. You don't understand the problem. And, and to be fair, like, let, let's just give Will his, his due here. Well, Will, Will, you, you showed up to all of the coaching calls for a long time there, and you asked the questions and you did the work and, and you took your medicine. Well, you know, power to you. You know, I remember you and me having some pretty, pretty heated conversations, you know, sometimes, and it's like getting, getting to that point. But I think if a man is able to look in the mirror and see himself as he truly is and see himself as, as his wife is seeing him, if he's able to get to that point, what, what do you think a man's chances of turning his marriage around, uh, in, in the typical situation, having been through this process yourself now?

I think it's possible in any situation. I think one of the major things is patience and being humble. Uh, those are the two things that you, you have to have it because your wife has so many things built up in her that's so negative towards you, and that's all that she sees. Because it's been so much built up that she doesn't see any positives anymore. So when she brings those negativity and those, uh, all those negative things towards you, you have to be able to just not say anything and not respond to them and just take it because it's things that she has built up that she's never came out and said to you. So by taking it in and understanding it and listening and just agreeing not just agreeing but validating her, it makes it a little bit easy for her to open up and give even more. And, um, for me, that helped a lot.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And how long did it take you, Will, before your wife started giving you some, some positive feedback and going, I can see, I can see some changes are being made here, that there's a glint in her eye again?

Yeah, it would have been about 4 months in, around January time frame, because I started in October. And it was about January, February that I started seeing little changes here and there. And that's— and then when I really saw the change is when I think it was February when she asked me to go away on a long weekend with her. And that was not even in the— anywhere in sight when we were going through anything. She didn't want to be around me with anything or go out to like dinner or anything. But then we went away for a long weekend. And that's when I noticed the change. And then for that long weekend where we went away, she sat down and we had a dinner. So I said, "So what exactly do you want to tell me?" And then that's when she came out and said, "I've seen the changes in you and I, you know, I can see myself reconnecting and spending the rest of my life with you with some of the changes you've done." And that's when it happened, when it started coming around. Wow.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah. And really the, the, here, here's the thing, right? That I, that I would, that I'd like to bring to anybody that's listening to this in, in your situation. It's like, it's gonna happen on her timeframe. Like a lot of us, like as men, we're definitely very impatient and we want things to happen super quick. But at the end of the day, she's got a lot of issues she's gotta work through as well. It's not like she's been hurt for a long time, right? And, and she's not gonna just open her arms to come back until some of those issues have been worked through and helping her to do that. So you showed up a lot, Will, like over the last 6 or 7 or 8 months, and you've seen, you've seen a lot of success stories, but you've also seen men that haven't won their wives back. You haven't reconciled that, you know, it's like, let's just be honest, not everybody gets their wife back. But in order to help people that are in this situation, have you seen some of the characteristics of the men? You've seen the men that are, that are succeeding and, and you see how they're approaching it, and then obviously you see the men as well that are that continue to struggle. Are you seeing any differentiations or any characteristics in the men that are succeeding in at this task?

Yeah, I have seen, um, the ones that continuously show up regardless of the fact if their relationship is working or not are the ones who are bettering themselves. And that's what it's all about. It's about bettering yourself, um, leaving the wife and reconciliation with the marriage out of the picture was actually that ideal part because concentrating on yourself is ideal. And that was the toughest part for me was just concentrating on me being a better person to be a better person for my wife and the relationship. Because unless I fix myself, there's no way I'm always going to be better for anything. So some of the men who stopped showing up to calls, and they come once every month or two, there's something about slipping back into your old self without listening to some of the other men and what struggles they're going through or even helping them out because you've been in certain situations. So showing up to the call still, I think, is beneficial even if you're over the hump or even if you're still in it or even if you're in the beginning because there's always help there somewhere for either yourself or helping someone else. Thank you.

Absolutely. Absolutely. And you, you mentioned earlier on about like seeing the behaviors in, in, in yourself and, and changing those behaviors. So again, like we can't fix what we don't know is broken, right? And what, what were some of those, some of those behaviors, Will, that when you actually came into contact with it and realized, oh my goodness, that's what I'm doing, that's, that's the problem. Well, you know, give us, give us some examples of some of those behaviors if you don't mind, if that's, if that's okay with you.

Yeah, yeah, sure, absolutely. So my background is from the Caribbean, um, born in Trinidad but grew up in the US at an early age. So my parents and everyone's from Caribbean. Caribbean background is the male is dominant, very strict, and have their mindset as, um, very macho and, um, have a full of ego. So having that Growing up in that mindset and with my wife being from a different background and how she grew up is— was completely different. And it was some things I never really noticed that I had this big ego. And I can say one of the things that stuck in my mind where we were on the airplane, we were traveling, this was years ago. And my wife— I never like to sit in the middle seat, I always like an aisle because I had surgery on my knee and I had to stretch my right knee out because I can't have it bent in a position for for a while. She provided the ability, went ahead and he ordered the seats, but for some reason it became a window seat, which she likes, and a middle seat. So when we got to the airplane, it was like, you know, sorry, I couldn't get an aisle seat for you. So I just like, well, I can't sit here, I gotta sit on the— I just went off like that. And she just didn't say a word. She just took the middle seat because she always liked the window. And I just didn't want to sit in the middle because I just didn't like it, but I wasn't thinking about her in that point in time. So one of the things I went back and I said to her, I remember this situation the way I acted, and there was no way I should have acted that way because the flight was only going to be for a couple hours. I could have just bit the bullet, sit down in the middle of the seat. I said, I know you like the window, and thanks for trying to get the aisle seat, and I can sit there for a couple hours now in the middle without a problem. Mm-hmm. And those was one of those moments that I said to her, I saw how I was and I shouldn't have been like that. We just came back from vacation a couple weeks ago and a couple of our flights, we had like about 6 flights because we're in different places, and some of them I couldn't get the aisle seat. So I sat in the middle because it's only going to be 3 hours here, 5 hours there. So I said, I'll sacrifice myself. And that was the difference between now and then.

Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Thinking of her now, thinking of yourself. And is that a, is that a fair summary?

That is fair.

Yes. Yes. Absolutely. So what would you give as some advice if you, if a man's listening to this right now, and he's in a situation similar to you, maybe, maybe his wife's left, maybe she's threatening to leave, or maybe it's just not a great marriage. What advice would you have to that man that was in your situation right now? If he could listen to just one thing that you would give him, what would that one thing be, Will?

I would say don't give up yet and have a lot of patience. Patience is key for this program, for anything else. And learning how to love yourself. I didn't love myself and I didn't realize that until being in this program. And I had to sit back, write down, writing my notes, and then finally look to love myself. And I mentioned this to my wife in one of our deep discussions that I had with her, and I always brought it to her. It's like, you know what, I never really loved myself, and being that way, I never was able to love you. So men, any man watching this, will have to be able to have patience, learn to love themselves, because you can't love anyone else until you love yourself first. Yeah.

Absolutely. And that, that's one of the, that's one of the big things that we talk about, right? It's like, it's that self-love. How can, how can you love anybody else until, until you start to, how to start to really, really love yourself? So yeah, I think, I think a lot of men, they fall into one of two categories, right? They want that quick fix. They want that, you know, give me the script, give me the, um, tell me what to say, tell me what to do. And the reality is it's like Sorry, Wilgon.

So one other thing I wanted to input here as well is, you know, taking your time, like I said, having the patience, but also working it. And I worked myself in snippets. I did a little bit at a time because trying to rush it, it does not work. So when I had these serious talks with my wife, it was like once every probably 3 or 4 weeks. And we would have, I said, "Can you have time to talk?" And we sit down and things I write down and I realize, And when I spoke with her, it was a really deep conversation, you know, half an hour or whatever it was. And it was not all at once because I couldn't actually disperse all the things I wanted to say at once. So I think working in little snippets of time was, you know, helps out a lot and just having the patience.

Yeah, yeah, 100%. And at the, at the end of the day, we've gotta— a lot of guys come to me all the time and go, well, how if I could just say this to my wife, or if I could just, just get my wife to have this conversation, if I could just bring her to this conversation. And I'm like, well, what are you gonna say if you do that? It's like she said no. She said no to what's in front of her right now. And what are you actually gonna say? Are you gonna bring anything new to the conversation? Are you gonna, are you gonna say anything she hasn't heard before? Because we can help you have that conversation, but you only get one or two shots at that, right? You don't get an infinite number of chances. So when, you know, what you're saying there is great. It's like, it's not being greedy and having the conversation is having something to say when the conversation does eventually show up. And, and obviously a new person has got to show up in that conversation, right, Will?

Indeed. Exactly. That's exactly— you said it better than I did.

Ultimately, if you ever look at my YouTube channel, like, I, I bring the— I bring this stuff up and, uh, A lot of times guys go, so I've just got to be a simp. You kind of mentioned it earlier on, right? Like, I've got to sort of put my wife's needs first, do this, do that. And it's like a lot of guys will go, so I've just got to be a simp, I've just got to be this, I've just got to be that. And it's like, um, I don't really feel that way. But like, as somebody who's been through this process, how do you— do you see it like that? How do you see that situation?

From what you're stating, it's like some of the men see it as being like a doormat, I guess.

Yes, yes, right.

No, I don't see it like that because the things that we've brought on our wives, we don't even realize we brought on them. So, and they never tell us, so we had no idea. Um, and for me and for a lot of guys in the program, it was the same exact thing. We've done things oblivious to what we're doing to our wives, and they hold on to it, hold on to it until For them, it becomes an explosion. And that's when we're like, "Where'd this come from?" So now when they come at us, we can't think that, "Oh, it's all about the negativity." No, we've done so much in the past already that we have to be able to take that now because we have no idea how much trauma we put them through. So being a doormat, if they want to look at it that way, I would say no, but they have to really, really go back deep down and see how much damage they have done to why she's that way.

That, that, that's exactly right. That's exactly right. And to be honest with you, it's why, it's why you've got the results that you've got, because you understand, you understand the process now a whole lot better. And people go, my wife never forgets, she's still bringing stuff up. And it's like, well, no, a woman does forget, a woman does let stuff go, but she doesn't let it go until it's been resolved. That's the difference, is men If you and me have a beef, well, we'll just go, we'll just disagree. Like, we'll just agree to disagree and go, okay, well, we'll never talk about that again and it's fine and we can move on. But women are not like that. Women, women are not able just to let something go. She is able to let it go, but not until it's resolved. And if you, if you say, well, my wife's still holding on from something from 20 years ago or 10 years ago, it's like, it's because she hasn't resolved it yet. And hopefully, like, once we, once you have those tools and that understanding and you're able to help her release that, then it goes away. And it's like, until all of this stuff has been resolved, it, it's, uh, it's not going to get better. And I think one of the expectations, or, or unrealistic expectations that men have is like, it's not— that negativity has to be there. Like, it has to get better— it has to get worse before it can get better. She's got a lot of hurt and a lot of upset, and you have to create that environment to where she can release all that hurt and pain. And it's going to seem very negative, but unfortunately, it's like, it's necessary. Story. And a lot of times it seems like things are getting worse or we're losing when actually we're winning. Did you, did you experience anything like that, Will?

Oh yes, 100%. When you're talking about it, the first couple months it was nothing but negativity. I mean, everything out of her mouth. I remember because sometimes when she'd go to work, I'd go over to the, the house to watch the dog when she comes home. It was just one thing negative. So I didn't say a word. I just said, but you know, you know, try to keep the positive way of myself, "Oh, okay, have a nice day, I'm going to go now." And I just kind of exited myself. But it was negativity every single day for months, for months. And I just didn't say a word back. I let her vent it because I know what she was going through and what I put her through because we got to the point because of me. So I just let it just go, go. And eventually it tapered off. And I guess now I don't even hear anything like that anymore. Mm-hmm. So yeah, it was tough. Like I said, the patience part has to be there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think, you know, from my, my perspective, where I'm coming from, like, I really, I really want to help you, and I really want to help men recover their marriage. It's like, I think the biggest point of failure that I see in, in the lack of reconciliation is it's unrealistic expectations going through it, going into it. It's like, it's thinking it's going to happen too quickly, or it's thinking it's going to happen without the negativity, or it's thinking you're not going to have to do the hard yards. And it's like when, when you go into a situation and you expect it to be something that it isn't, it's going to happen quicker than you think it's going to happen, or you're going to get to the destination without having to go through the traffic lights. It's like it creates an unrealistic expectation. And, and so I, you know, have you on here, Will, because you— I, I love the fact that you, you did stick in there and you did do the hard yards. And a lot of guys took you 5 months, you know. It'd be, it'd be wonderful to have you on here and say Hey, I got the result in the first week, or Cody told me to say this and I said it to my wife and she came back and it's happily ever after. But the, the reality is it's realistic expectations going into this. And it's like, speak to, speak to the fact, like, or, or, or speak to the idea that if somebody does come into this with realistic expectations of, hey, this is gonna take a little bit of time, this is gonna be some hard yards, there is gonna be some negativity to go through. What are the chances of success in your mind? Like, not only going through this yourself, but you've probably seen hundreds of men now in the same situation. And like I say, you've got, you've seen both sides of the coin, winners and losers. What are your thoughts in terms of like your chances of success if you have those realistic expectations versus the chances of success if you come into this going, just give me the magic bullet, give me the script, give me, tell me what I need to say to sort this out.

So the expectations for, I would say for me, I had in my mind, I don't know exactly what point in time I did it, But I put in my mind that if things can change for the worse, where she wants to just get out of the relationship and have a divorce, it can also change to the good as well. So I put that in my mind. Well, it can change, so it can change back. So I just kept on feeding that to myself. And, um, so for the man who thinks that things can change, and they can change, it will change for the best for them.

Yeah.

The ones who have any doubts and don't think it can change and still has a little bit of insecurities in themselves, it's not really going to work to their favor because I think their wives or women will see right through that, that they're not this confident man already. And the man that has to be— who loves themselves, who has to be confident. So the ones who think that, yes, I know I'm going to do good, I'm going to change myself, I'm going to be a better man regardless of what happens, those are the ones that's going to succeed.

And let me ask you a question. In your experience now, can you save your marriage without changing yourself?

Uh, absolutely not. No, no, no, no. It was, uh, it was a done deal because of my background and my heritage, of my, you know, my parents and all that. And it was something that was building and building with my wife that she didn't She didn't grow up with that. So she would just say, "Oh, that's just his, you know, that's just his upbringing." And she just kept on waving it off until it got to a point where it exploded. So no, without changing myself, it would not have been reconciled right now. And that's why I still come, because I still have to remind myself, I still have to get better, I still have to work on myself, and I can't fall back. Like how you say, you know, I guess when people are on drugs, they go into withdrawal. Mm-hmm. You can't go into withdrawal.

Yeah. You gotta, you gotta keep showing up. You gotta keep showing up. Exactly right. So obviously there'll be, there'll be some men watching this that are thinking about maybe getting some help here. And some of those men will be of the opinion that the problem is with my wife. My wife, if I could, she needs, I need to change my wife's behavior here, or I need to change my wife's attitude there. Or they see, they see the problem being with your wife. What, what would your advice to those men be that are watching this right now thinking, well, I'm just watching this thinking, how can I get, how can I get the strategy to change my wife? Because she's the problem.

We, as us men, we all think that. I've thought of it myself because I can pick out so many situations where like, well, my wife did this and did that. But we— for those men who think that, you have to go back and look at yourself and take out a notebook and write down all the things that upset your wife. And then you go through that and look at it and put yourself in your wife's shoes and They'll see that, well, a lot of it isn't my wife, it's actually me because she's the one that collected all these bullets from you, really, 'cause you were throwing the bullets at her. And you realize that it's not all the wife. I'm not saying that everything is our fault. Of course, the women do play a part, but we played a major part to why we are in this situation right now. Yeah.

That, that's exactly right. Like, that, that's another misconception I want— I don't want to be out there. I want to clear up is like, I, I, I don't believe that it's all the man's fault all the time. Your wife is probably as responsible, or has at least has some responsibility in this for sure. But at the end of the day, you're not responsible for your wife's behavior. You're responsible for your behavior. You're not, you're not responsible for your wife's role in, in the breakdown. You're responsible for your role in the breakdown. And you're not responsible for fixing your wife, you're responsible for fixing yourself. And, and it's, it's all about, like, a lot of times, you know, guys will come in thinking, my wife's the problem and I need to fix my wife. And it's like, we always bring it back to the man, and it's like, you need to work on yourself, you need to sort yourself out, you know, need to fix yourself. And it's like, this, this is, this is where the magic exists, right? Because we have the ability to change ourselves, and when we change, the marriage changes. And If you come into this thinking, well, I need to change my wife, or my wife needs to change, you're probably not going to be— you're probably not going to get the result that you're looking for, I feel. What are your thoughts on that, Will?

Yeah, I mean, I love the way you put it. And in the beginning of the program, I thought like that. It's like, you know, she should be changing as well too. And I thought that. And you're absolutely right. We can't change anybody else. We can't change our wives. We can't change our siblings, we can't change anyone around us, our friends. We can only change ourselves. And changing ourselves will actually replicate around us once we start being a better person. So you're dead on where I was thinking sometimes that I can actually, you know, she should be doing this or why is she doing this? But at the end of the day, we have to take that out of our mind. And I learned to do that with this program was just— Mm-hmm. Removing that piece. It wasn't easy, of course, that's why it took months. But, um, once it was done, it became much more clearer.

So in that process, Will, of changing yourself, did— and not trying to change your wife— did, did you see your wife's behavior and attitude and everything start to, start to change towards you?

Yes, yes, indeed. Um, once I just started acting without any negativity, being more positive towards her and always looking at her and just regardless how in a negative state she was, even if it's from work or something, because there was a lot of times she would come in from work and just be really— I was like, oh, okay. And I just stay in my positive mood and just keep on going and move. It's like, okay, I see you tomorrow or just something like that. And another thing I also did as well is every week I, you know, I would send her an email because I used to do that in the beginning. When we first met, I would just send her letters or poems and things like that. And that sending her an email every single week, actually about intimacy or anything like that, helped a lot.

Yeah, yeah. Fantastic, man. That's a, it's a great story. And is there anything that you'd like to add? I mean, obviously, I'm asking questions. Is there anything that you'd like to share, anything that you'd like to throw into the conversation that's on your mind?

One thing I would like to throw in was there was something in the program which I thought was pivotal, and it was a statement that you had mentioned about the amount of pain. I can't— I'm not sure if it's verbatim, but it's the amount of pain that we've caused our wives over all these years. There's nothing that we can possibly do within the rest of the time period we have in our life that can actually repay that debt. And it was something to that aspect.

Yes.

And it was so, so true, that piece of information. And one of those little sit-down talks I had with my wife, I actually brought it up, but in a different way, but pretty much the same way. And she actually had tears in her eyes because she realized I caused so much pain and there's no way I can pay off that debt. So that's one of the things I think that was pivotal for me, and which I loved how you phrased it, that I like to throw out there.

So I think that's—

And it's something else I'd like to add. Sorry, something else I'd like to add is that the program is great that you've done. I've never seen anything else like that there, out there as well. And I appreciate a lot of the men who are on there who give their opinions and all the coaches. I mean, it's just Fantastic.

Thank you. Thank you, Will. So I think what you're referring to there, just so everybody knows, is the debt that we have to our wives is so massive that we could never pay it off. But fortunately, there's a button in the woman's heart, the forgiveness button, and that's our hope. It's like if we had to earn our way out of this hole, or if we had to work our way or repay the debt, we're done. Like most, most of us, or most people that will be this far into this interview watching this, are so far in the hole with their wives, whether they know it or not, that the debt is so great that they'll never be able to pay that off. But the, the beautiful thing is there is a button in your heart, in your wife's heart, called the forgiveness button, and she can and will forgive that debt if you change. If you, if you, you have— if you can become the man that triggers that forgiveness button, she is willing to erase all of that debt and bring you back to a level playing field. And really, this is, this is about what we do here. It's not about working your way out of the hole. It's about becoming, becoming that man and becoming that person your wife can look at and just hit that forgiveness button and go, I want this man in my life again, and I'm willing to hit that button because it's worth doing, because I want this man in my life. And that, that's what it's— what, what it comes down to. And, and ultimately, I think My definition of, for me at least, when you're winning this game of being a husband is like when your wife looks— my wife looked at me at one point and said, I love the man that you're becoming, Cody. And that's really the aspiration that I have for you, Will, and for every man that I work with and for anyone that's watching this video that we may or may not work with in the future. It's like when your wife looks at you and says, I love the man that you're becoming, that's when you're winning the game of life. That's when you're winning the game of marriage. That's when you know And the only way that that is ever going to happen is like, you've got to become that man. And if you, if you have that desire, if you have that sincere desire to look at yourself and go, I'm not fulfilling my potential, I'm not the man that I could be, I'm not the man that I want to be, I'm not the man that I once aspired to be, I am a day late and I am a dollar short, then this is going to be something that— this is going to be a wonderful thing for you because like you can become that man very quickly. But as you say, Will, it's a lifetime endeavor, right? Like, this is a journey that we never cease to— it's something that we have to continue for our entire lives. We can never get to a point and go, I've arrived now, I've got my wife back, I can stop. Because the second you do that, it's like, it's game over. I'm going to give you the floor, brother, for any final comments here. Anything that you'd like to say, anything that you'd like to throw out there. You've got the floor. You got the freedom to say whatever you want, brother.

Sure. So, um, I would like to say, you know, I thank you from the bottom of my heart, Cody. I mean, you were there from those coaching calls I needed, which was the— those, uh, one-on-one coaching calls to guide me and to let me see things which I couldn't see. And, um, all the other coaches, you know, I think my first coaching call was Alex, and, um, it was— it was great. And, um, For some of the men who has doubts or they're insecure, you know, just learn to love yourself and things can turn around. Once you put it in your mind that things will be good, it will be good. And that goes with anything, not with just marriage, but with your life, your job, anything. Once you turn your mindset into being positive and not failing, so much good opportunities come from that. And that's how I turned my mind. And we had friends of ours that my wife would tell her, there's no way it's working. And I would go out with her and the husband. I said, I know it can turn around again. And when it did turn around, she said to me that, I, you know, you had so much positive things about it. I was looking at you like this guy, he doesn't know the hurt he's going to get into. And when it turned around, she was like, you saw it. And— Yeah. I was like, yeah, because I had that positive attitude. So having that goes a long way and the patience. So for any man out there who has any doubts, it does actually truly work. And I would definitely recommend anyone to actually take the program and just stick with it because it does actually work.

Thank you, Will. Appreciate those kind words. And look, just to wrap this up, The marriage is the tip. One of the things we say, right, is how you do anything is how you do everything. And it, it is impossible to improve your marriage without every aspect of your life improving. It's impossible. Your marriage does not— it's not a vacuum. It's not something that happens in isolation. And the way your marriage gets— that your marriage can get better because you can get better. That's— and that's the only reason that your marriage can change because you can change. Change, and that's the only reason it can change. And when you get better and when you change, it's not an isolated event that happens only in the marriage. It's like it's going to impact every area of your life. So thank you, Brother Will. I really, really appreciate you coming out today, giving, giving your time to, to, to share your thoughts. And, uh, thank you so much, brother. Thank you.

Thank you, Cody. I appreciate it. Anytime.