Dallas Bragg and Speaker B discuss how shame and self-judgment trap people in cycles of relapse. Speaker B describes an internal critical voice questioning their own values, realizing it might be an external narrative they've internalized. Dallas argues that recovery requires clearing these intrusive thoughts that fuel the behaviors leading to substance use.
And there's, you know, there's some of these men who don't understand why they're in a relapse, a chronic relapse pattern. They can't stop judging their past.
They're just drawing theirself back to it. And when we judge it, whose voice is that? Like when I'm judging something, when I'm judging myself, if I ask myself, why, why do I care about this behavior? Why do I care about this behavior? I start, then I start to think, well, it's actually not, I actually don't care about this behavior. It's some, it's something else in my head that's been rolling around for so long that that it's taken up residency and I have claimed it as my own thought when it's actually not my own thought.
Yeah. Well, thank you for that. Yeah. Because that is, if you're in recovery, that is recovery, is clearing your head of those thoughts. You know, because those are the thoughts that probably got you into where you were before.
