A short interview/transcript excerpt in which James Clear (via the speaker) contrasts goals with systems for lasting change. Using a half-marathon anecdote, the speaker argues goals produce temporary change (a "yo-yo" effect) while systems—specifically identity-based habits—lead to sustainable lifestyle adoption (e.g., "becoming a runner" rather than merely training for a race).
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Which goals, like, they create these weird after effects, like what I call sometimes like a yo effect. So you set a goal to run a half marathon. And so you train for six months and then you run the race. And then afterward you're like, oh, great, I accomplished my goal. And then you turn around, you take a week off. Then a week turns into a month and a month turns into two months. Then before you know it, you're like, man, I haven't run in 10 weeks. Like, I gotta set a new goal. I gotta sign up for another race or something. So people are. The pendulum is swinging back and forth, yo yoing on and off. Whereas rather than focusing on the goal, you focus on the system. Or what I recommend in the book is this concept called identity based habits. Focus on being that kind of person rather than making the goal running a half marathon, the real goal is to become a runner because then you finish the race, but you're like, I'm still going to run next week because I'm a runner, not because I only did this because I was working toward the half marathon. I think that for the most part, goals only change your life for the moment, whereas systems are something that is a lifestyle.