The Dennis Prager Show LIVE

In this live episode of The Dennis Prager Show, regular host Dennis Prager is absent and Mark Davis fills in. The program follows the show’s typical conservative talk‑radio format: callers discuss recent school‑board protests over critical race theory and ethnic studies (including incidents in Southlake and Los Alamitos), and guests/segments critique the Department of Justice’s guidance on parental rights at school meetings, referencing Merrick Garland’s testimony. Broader conservative concerns—rising crime, inflation, border security, COVID‑19 vaccine skepticism, and the upcoming 2022 elections—are interwoven throughout the dialogue. The show includes sponsor reads and fundraising appeals, notably promoting the Alliance Defending Freedom. Mid‑program advertisements for the Salem Now app appear repeatedly. A human‑interest segment highlights a story about millions of children placed with foster families and the positive impact of adoption. The final segment features a caller (identified as Al) who argues that supply‑chain disruptions are a “Biden wealth blessing,” citing record corporate profits, high household net worth, and strong consumer balance sheets, while Davis challenges this view as privileged whining. The episode blends political commentary, advocacy, promotional content, and listener interaction.
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It is a beautiful morning if you're on the West Coast portion of the Dennis Prager listenership. For me, it's a beautiful, uh, what's a beautiful morning here in Central Time to you, beautiful lunch hour on the East Coast. Mark Davison for Dennis Prager. Thank you so much for hanging out here at DennisPrager.com, watching things going on on the video stream we got going. And listening and checking in everything Dennis related at DennisPrager.com. Dennis is off today and will be back tomorrow. And I'm Mark Davis, your talk show buddy from 660 AM The Answer in DFW, where every day that I get to do The Prager Show, I get this superb prep opportunity by doing my own program this morning, which I am fresh off of. And boy, did we have a shindig this morning talking about a wide variety of things. So I figure I'm going to bring you the whole plate, the entire smorgasbord of greatness. Dennis Prager as we examine a number of things here. Here's the agenda I have in mind. Here are the things that I want to share with you. One of them is very specific. It involves education. It involves the rule of law. Attorney General Merrick Garland is currently being affectionately grilled and shoulder rubbed, depending on who's doing the questioning, by members of the House Judiciary Committee. And we're sort of listening in at that. I've already got one wonderful exchange featuring one of my favorite Republicans of the moment, Congressman Mike Johnson of Louisiana, who absolutely placed before the Attorney General his possible financial conflict of interest with a close relative involved in, you know, profiting from— listen, you get to be in the curriculum business, you get to be in the education business, but then if you are taking a stand, as the Attorney General is, in weaponizing and roping in federal and local law enforcement in an attempt to stigmatize, intimidate, uh, suppress any parent who dares to fight back, push back against the race-baiting, the politicization, the radicalization of curricula, of history, of our kids' schooling. Well, uh, that's problematic, as we say. So I want to ask you a lot about schools, in your neighborhood, the degree to which the pushback is happening in your town. Boy, do I have stories, because I'm here in DFW, now world-famous Southlake, the subject of an entire NBC podcast to demonize and scandalize a community that has dared to push back. And for that effort, for that heroic, principled effort, they are being blistered as some kind of skinhead enclave. It's a community I know well. They're being lied about. And so to take a look at sort of the education landscape and see what's going on, because I'll tell you, this education issue might be about to swing a state election for governor in Virginia. Please, Lord, can Glenn Youngkin beat Terry McAuliffe? Wouldn't that be something? There are those who have identified that election coming up in just a couple of weeks in Virginia as kind of like an extra midterm. I mean, we're thinking a lot, of course, about 2024, and please God, let us get a better president. The midterms, the actual midterms, are in 2022 when Republicans are looking to take back the House and maybe, if we can cross our fingers, the Senate. But before we even get to '22, here before '21 even ends, here's the Virginia gubernatorial election where a poll this morning shows Youngkin and McAuliffe Deadlocked, 46-46. Well, well, so I got a lot to ask about education, and, and then just in general, I mean, let's make a list because it's a conservative talk show and we welcome listeners of every political stripe. Dennis does, I do, whatever I fill in. By the way, let me give you the number: 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. You can follow me on Twitter @MarkDavis, M-A-R-K Davis. There's another whole show that takes place over there. And glad to mix it up however you like across ideological lines. You're just glad to do it. I live for the exchange. I love the back and forth. But if I formulate a list of things that just seem to be in the crapper, if you'll excuse me, profligate spending, ridiculous spending, Gas prices through the roof, the supply chains dashed against the rocks, uh, the Biden administration trying to smother us with lowered expectations. Hey, don't expect your stuff to get here on time. Don't expect your, your affordable gas. What, what is it? What, what a first world problem that is. What did Jen Psaki talk about the other day? The tragedy of the, uh, of the delayed treadmill. An anti-business environment, unemployment, and yet there's a job shortage, skyrocketing crime, unlivable cities, schools that don't work, borders that don't work, a China threat that is shockingly unaddressed. Now, I could make a long list of things that conservatives object to. Oh, and I will, and I do so for a living and have for a long time. In there, in that list that I've made, aren't there some things that just anybody with a brain stem would take a look at and go, this is not good, this is not, um, this is, this is not helpful what's going on here? So, um, so I'd love your thoughts about some of that. And as I do on the local show that I host, and I graciously bring it here and, uh, And people seem to enjoy it. So let's do this. Before we talk to each other, let's talk to the God that makes it all possible. And Lord, we, we ask you to guide us and protect us as we face the challenges of this new day. We thank you every day for this blessed nation and for your hand in creating it. Fill our hearts with the energy to protect the freedoms which come from you, which our nation was founded to protect. Lord, be with us as we chart a course out of this COVID nightmare. Help us to be smart and safe as we reclaim our lives. Guide us to fight for our liberties within the law and by following your law. Let us navigate these troubling times with a positive spirit, treating others as we would want to be treated. Lord, these are times of trial and challenge. Lift us as we follow your word and work for a better America where our Constitution is honored, our elections are reliable, our borders work, where we fight for the unborn, where our differences are hashed out with honesty and goodwill, and our freedoms of speech and worship are protected. As we face each day's problems, give us the clarity to look around and cherish our many blessings in our nation, our communities, and our families. If we follow you, Lord, we know we can get through anything. And we ask these things in your holy name. Amen. All right, so, uh, 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. Let me phrase things in the form of some questions and some thoughts, and I do have a just a delicious exchange, right? I'm gonna do some calls first, see what y'all are thinking about around the country here at 1-800-PRAGER-776. At some point in this first hour, we'll duck into a little audio from the Merrick Garland, uh, testimony before the House Judiciary Committee. The chairman is Jerry Nadler. but Jim Jordan is there, Lord, so you know there's red-hot action. Uh, he wanted to play a video of honorable parents raising honorable objections up against the nonsense that they are seeing in the school board environment, but there either is or is not some rule that says you got to give us 48 hours of notice on that. And so Nadler and Jordan are barking at each other, but the thing that I want to bring you is, is the very thoughtful, very compelling back and forth between Congressman Mike Johnson, Republican of Louisiana, and Merrick Garland about a number of things. About specifically, I'm gonna spend a minute on this, we'll get to the first break, come back, start talking to you, and examine a number of other things as well. 1-800-PRAGER-776. This letter, you saw this the other day, the Attorney General of the United States informing everyone that federal— that the FBI, that various U.S. Attorney's Offices, and there's going to be some outreach to your local police. Your local police chief can expect a call from the federal government saying, yeah, hi, federal government here, and we just want to make sure that we can partner with you in an attempt to make sure that these crazy parents aren't terrorizing school board members. Now, anytime there's a movement afoot, you're going to have some people who are burning a little hot. Have there been moments in some of the school board meetings where a parent has crossed the line and gotten a little incendiary, a little combative? Yes. If that— and you know what you do if that ever happens? If it really gets really bad, You have cops drag them out of the room. Boom, problem solved. But what we have here is an attempt to conflate the very rare parental outburst that does cross a line with the very measured, very principled, and very effective— that's why they're terrified— movement of parents who are stepping into the breach and saying, we've been asleep too long. There's radicalization going on in our schools. And it's not all racial. Plenty of it is these days because the opportunism hangs thick from the rafters. That as soon— and a lot of it is, you know, kind of through the aftermath of George Floyd's tragic death. It's like, here we go, we're going to racialize everything, politicize everything. How's it happening? What's going on? We'll talk about it more with you next. Mark Davison for Dennis Prager on this Thursday. Glad you are here.
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And so what they want you to believe is that there is a sword hanging by a thread above your existence. So this Sword of Damocles was a parable, and it became a motif in medieval literature. And basically, this is the quote from Cicero, who was a one-year Roman consul who was phenomenal. He was actually killed right near the time of Julius Caesar's death. And Julius Caesar had this beautiful quote where he said, "The more laws, the less justice." The Founding Fathers loved Cicero. But Cicero wrote about the tale of Damocles and represented the idea that those in power always labor under the specter of anxiety and death, and that, quote, there can be no happiness for the one who is under constant apprehensions. And so every man, woman, and child who lives under a nuclear sword of Damocles Hanging by the slenderest of threads, capable of being cut at any moment by accident or miscalculation or madness. That was a speech that John F. Kennedy gave to the United Nations back in 1961, talking about nuclear weapons. But essentially, if you get the visual, there's like the sword hanging from the ceiling by a thread, and they want every parent who shows up at the school board meeting to be afraid that at any moment that sword could drop from the ceiling and drop on you. And metaphorically, or possibly end your life by putting you in prison. Let me read this again, that no man can be free under the labor or the anxiety of constant apprehension or penalty. They want people to have nervous glances of the blade dangling above them.
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Gone.
Because I guess what? He was too sexy. Too toxic in his masculinity.
Gone.
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That they do. PragerU, an institution worth cherishing. Mark Davis in for Dennis. Dennis is back tomorrow. Getting ready to go to your calls and talk about stuff I brought up, see what things are that you want to bring up in the midst of just the passing parade, this passing disaster. It's funny because it's one-party rule, right? Democrat House, Democrat Senate, Democrat president. You could ostensibly say nothing, things could not be worse, and yet Republicans unifying and preventing the nationalization of our election rules. It is a victory because on the supposed auspice, on the supposed basis of voting rights or, you know, expanding rights to people and blah blah blah, because this just in, anybody can vote without difficulty. The notion that it's hard to vote is poisonous mythology. And Republicans stood firm, stood together. We're not even a majority. And pulled off a huge victory against these people just yesterday. So hang tough, man, hang tough. I'll tell you who's hanging tough with us, especially in view of Merrick Garland being at the, uh, at the House Committee today. The Attorney General issued this startling and unprecedented directive to the FBI and the Justice Department thing I was talking about just in the last segment to investigate parents all over America who are showing up at local school board meetings to voice their concerns over, you know, CRT nonsense and various things being force-fed to public school students on a political motive. And parents got mad, and they got mad in person, they got mad here on talk shows like this, because the DOJ would be treating parents as domestic terrorists. So Alliance Defending Freedom is there. They're not going to stand for any of this. They're not going to stand for parents' free speech rights being abused. Here is ADF senior counsel John Bursch saying that nothing like this attack on parents has ever happened before in our country.
Worse than anything that we've seen in a long time.
And you can be sure that if they do come forward and they persecute and prosecute parents who are simply doing their job to make sure that their kids are going to be well taken care of at school and not influenced by ideology, which is going to harm them, then we're going to be there to defend those parents. That is exactly what ADF does every day, and they cannot do it without you and me. They cannot do it without you and me. Help ADF challenge these unconstitutional moves by going right now to DennisPrager.com. Dennisprager.com and make a generous gift to guarantee that Alliance Defending Freedom has the resources necessary to take the Biden administration to court every day at lunchtime if necessary. So we all need to defend parents just like you, just like people like you who maybe whom you know who are under attack. Go to dennisprager.com, or you can do it on the phone, 855-649-2020. 855-649-2020. Join Dennis Prager, join me, Join all of us here at the company in supporting Alliance Defending Freedom today. DennisPrager.com and click that ADF banner, or call 855-649-2020. All right, speaking of numbers to call, 1-800-PRAGER-776, 1-800-PRAGER-776, as we head first to Long Beach, California. And Brian, that is you. Mark Davison for Dennis. How you doing?
Good morning, Mark. Thank you for taking my call this morning.
Hi. Nice to have you.
A little bit, a little bit of a delay there in the, in the radio. Uh, anyways, I wanted to share an experience with you, uh, about what happened at Los Alamitos, uh, school district where my kids go to school. Uh, Los Alamitos is in Orange County. I live in Long Beach, which is LA County. Um, basically the short version of it is a bunch of us parents got together out of concern with them teaching CRT in schools. And so we went to a school board meeting to voice our opinions, which we're allowed to do. We're supposed to be given 3 minutes to speak, and we're allowed to say whatever we want to say, our opinions are, right? So here's what happened. Uh, the day before, uh, the school board meeting, the school superintendent for Los Alamitos sent out an inflammatory email to every parent in the district claiming that right-wing extremists were here to try to destroy ethnic studies.
Of course.
And so, which is, you know, not really true. We opposed to the CRT, but, you know, we need to learn about everything, right? So when we show up Tuesday, a couple hours early for the meeting, to voice our opinion, there had to be about 500 people there. We were shocked. Never have we seen this many people at a school board meeting. And it was interesting, there were many of the people wearing a certain color. They were all wearing purple. Now, something else that happened that we were unaware of is a memo went out to a bunch of people to say wear purple to support, you know, ethnic studies. Right.
Okay.
A, um, now you're supposed to show up at 5 PM, put your name on a list, be allowed to talk. Only the people who got that memo showed up at 8 AM, got their name on the list to talk. 80 people, 80 people were signed up to speak, uh, at the school board meeting, right? We were there for 3 hours. We never got seen. My wife was 65th on the list. Finally, we gave up and went home. We were met. We were met with students carrying signs, hateful signs. Let everybody tell their stories. Support CRT.
Right.
We were met. Antifa calling us terrorists and hovering around us like they were going to do something. Nothing. No incidents happened. There was no violence. But getting terrorized by Antifa. And we finally left and said, okay, you know what, we're going to come to the next school board meeting.
Good. And sign up early, I hope.
Well, so this time the school superintendent decided to cancel the school board meeting, made it a Zoom meeting only under the guise of being safe. Of course, we're concerned about COVID Yeah, right. And you may enter your comments and we'll read them on, on the Zoom meeting.
Delightful.
Well, I know, and you probably know, right? Anything I wrote in opposition to this material was never going to be read on a Zoom meeting.
Right.
And in fact, 3 of us tried to post our comments and weren't even able to get action.
Okay. I need, I got about a minute. I need to bottom line this. Where do we stand now? Because you're, you're going to be called the, the 2 Ps, politeness and persistence. You can never go away. You got to be there observing all the rules of decorum, but never go away. Don't ever be driven away. Don't ever be discouraged. You got to keep showing up. Where does all this stand right now?
Where it all stands right now is we are persistent, we are showing up, and in fact, there's a, a person that is kind of with us who is an attorney who has served notices to recall two school board members that are coming up for reelection. and we gather weekly to strategize and find out what we can do.
Well, if they're coming up for reelection, why recall them? I mean, the bar for recall is way high. If they're coming up for reelection, then just unelect them. Persistence and politeness. Stories like this are everywhere, and you've got to stay on message, on your game, and thank God for folks like you. Let's talk a little bit about ethnic studies, Black studies, whoever studies. If this was done like in a fair-minded, objective way, because I think there's value in learning about everybody's experience, the experience of Black folk, experience of Hispanic folks, Asian folks, Native Americans, I'm all about that. But what these classes tend to be are exercises in grievance. Ethnic studies is elements of CRT. It is teaching kids to hate each other and hate our country. So there are all kinds ways that they're going about this, and you got to know the battlefield. Mark Davis in for Dennis Prager.
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You know, the one thing that was fascinating that I always tell people is that for 3 years of the last 3 years of the Bush administration, I was the assistant US trade rep for the Bush administration for public affairs, meaning I was just the spokesperson. And forever we would hear why we couldn't do things. We couldn't renegotiate NAFTA because, well, it was signed and sealed and we couldn't do that. And I get it. But that was the mentality. Frankly, that's the mentality that permeates government. And I get it. And so I was always like, okay, I get it. This is stupid, but we do have a signed deal. And you got a guy like Trump that comes in and you tell him that, well, you know, there's this side deal and he says, so what?
And it was one of the most refreshing things about it.
And it was just the thing that was so weird is if you think about it, why aren't more people— because I don't think you should tear up everything for the sake of it.
No, but just ask the question, right?
Ask the questions.
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So Joe Biden thinks that an illegal chasing a U.S. senator into a ladies' room is part of the process and happens to everybody.
Hmm, wow.
I'm guessing nobody's able to chase Joe Biden into the men's room. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that it's not part of any process he has to face. It's unbelievable the way the machine, the beast, looks the other way when something as reprehensible as illegals harassing United States senators gets a pass. I saw a great tweet, David Harsanyi, who we've interviewed on this show before. Our country is so free that illegal immigrants can yell at senators in public without worrying about any repercussions. That's how free we are as a country. To all the lunatics on the left who tell you how oppressive we are as a nation, How racist this country is, how miserable the United States of America is. We're so free that we let illegals harass, maybe criminally, U.S. senators, and we don't do anything about it. Tell me why these illegals harassing senators shouldn't be deported. Give me a good argument against that.
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Man, I miss my father and I want him to be here with me, but he's not. We all had something in common. A lot of us were miserable. We had, uh, no fathers in our lives. This is how I began the life of crime.
I desired to have a father who would tell me that what I did was wrong.
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Going to seminary?
Billy Graham.
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Thursday, Dennis Prager Show, October 21st. Mark Davison for Dennis here from 660 AM The Answer in Dallas-Fort Worth. Dennis is back to wrap up your week tomorrow. Listen, I should have said this right off the bat, just as a longtime friend, longtime listener, and obviously longtime fill-in host for Dennis.
Dennis Prager.
I am so glad that he is well. In fact, yesterday, um, I checked in the very beginning of the show, heard about his negative COVID test and how confounding that has been to many, and a little bit of his wonderful sort of essay on the fly yesterday about the cruelty of people who— I mean, if someone wants to differ with the way he went about this, great, difference of opinions, what we're all about. But the degree to it, but the mockery, the meanness, the cruelty, it's, it's, it's a measure of where we are. And it's part of what's made it so really, really hard to plow through this entire COVID drama. We're all just trying to get past this. But the only thing we have in common is a desire to have all of this COVID wreckage in the rearview mirror. How to move forward and turn— I mean, we all have different opinions, different ways to go about how we do things. I'm vaccinated, glad to be. Moderna, happy to do it. I'm not going to make you do it. I don't want government to make you do it. Uh, and, and if somebody wants to do the therapeutics and do the, the hydroxychloroquine, and, and if they do get it, you know, do the monoclonal antibodies. I talked to Allen West, who's running for governor of my state of Texas. Um, he had COVID for like 72 hours, you know, he got the IV thing, did this, he's through the woods, he's out, he feels great. Right? People are going to make individual decisions, which it's their right to make. And then you get into policies. What can government do? What can individual businesses do? What should a certain concert venue do? Oh, it has placed us all at odds with each other in a whole lot of ways. And I'm just glad Dennis is well and just wanted to make sure that you know from this. In fact, I believe that when I heard that he was going to be gone today, the first thing I thought, ooh, I hope he's okay. Not only is he okay, I think he's doing some kind of travel today and doing great and back with you tomorrow. So God bless you, Dennis. Continued, continued good health. All right, speaking of Dennis, go to DennisPrager.com for all things Dennis and 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. Let us roll up to northern Wisconsin. We are in Wright Lake. Doug, hey, Mark Davison for Dennis. How are you doing?
Hey, I'm doing fine. Thanks, Mark.
Dennis Prager. Nice to have you. Is it snowing yet?
No, I'm not even close. Yeah, it's in the 50s.
Gotcha. Soon enough, my friend, soon enough.
That's right. Um, I was calling because I, I realized that, um, what you would call the left, I call communists. They are very good at changing the subject. They don't want I want people to recognize that our children are the ones who are being oppressed, beat down, and brainwashed every day of the week, except Saturday and Sunday when they're not in school. The point is that they are the victims here, and parents are just barely waking up, some of them, to realize many of these communist doctrines like CRT um, all the racism business, all the sexual education that is corrupt without Christian morals, all that is pushed by communism. Any policy that is anti-Christ is communism. Communism is the religion of Satan. People don't realize this, unfortunately. The religion of our guys like Merrick Darwin is communism and Satanism. They follow that And so they want to cover up what's really happening. It's been happening for years and years to our children. They're being brainwashed. They're being subjected to all kinds of evil and taught many evil things about sexuality. And now this homosexuality and transsexuality, this is so evil. It's abomination before God. And yet they're teaching this in schools as if this is no big deal, and they want to make The big issue is all the parents in the critical—
right, the parents are the problem, right? If a school learns of an 11-year-old boy that thinks he wants to be a girl, that's great. Parents pushing back against that kind of norming of sexual gender dysphoria, we're the problem. Uh, yes, um, words have meaning. Not everything that you and I disagree with is either communist or Satanist. However, uh, to be precise, the, the norms are, are being shifted. And here in my state of Texas, Governor Abbott is about to sign something, which is great, that prevents a boy from showing up in the lane next to your daughter at a track meet. That's a good thing. However, we have things that even in my very conservative state that we have yet to do— protect kids against chemical castration, puberty blockers, the insanity of counseling that would tell a prepubescent boy that he can be a girl. All of this needs to be made illegal too. We're working on it. Mark Davis in for Dennis. Grab a line, 1-800-PRAGER-776. Back to your calls next.
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The public would be outraged if they knew the truth.
Why do you think our politicians are not on the sidewalk right now talking to you? Don't have no respect. The old wall randomly turns into a guardrail followed by miles of open border.
That journey is extremely dangerous.
Dangerous. The 7-year-old girl died in the desert from the country of India. A great pillar of the community was killed by a man who had been deported at least twice.
This little urn contains the ashes of my son, his dreams cut short forever.
We're so worried about other countries' problems and we don't even focus on our own.
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There's about 57 Muslim states in the world. There's one Jewish state.
The massive ingathering of Jews in the last 150 years back to the land is absolutely unprecedented. They say that there's no greater sign of redemption coming than the Jewish people returning to the hills of Judea.
As a Christian, I've always supported Israel's claim to the Holy Land.
To me, the Palestinians were just getting in the way of God's plan.
300,000 Palestinians are unemployed.
In spite of all the years of conflict, there's hope here. If you know where to look for it.
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Man, I miss my father and I want him to be here with me, but he's not. We all had something in common. A lot of us were miserable. We had, uh, no fathers in our lives. This is how I began the life of crime.
I desired to have a father who, who would tell me that what I did was wrong.
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I grew up poor, which is even worse than being poor. We would have sandwiches with no meat. My American dream entailed goal of working hard and making $20,000 a year, but I surpassed that goal and became a corporate CEO. We'll all be able to say, free at last! Free at last!
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Judge Thomas, you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but I was under constant attack.
You're not really black because you're not doing what we expect black people to do. This is the wrong black guy. He has to be destroyed.
So you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court?
I'd rather die than withdraw from the process.
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The Democratic Party somehow has convinced black people that they're the good guys, never mind the skanky history of the Democratic Party. That was a party of slavery. They're racist, racist, racist. Everything's racist.
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This is why we're fighting for the soul of America. You should be able to share ideas without fear of being fired from your job or shouted down.
You are not to be heard. This is why of the few things we have no precedent for in the United States.
You have the right to remain silent.
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Hey, um, yeah, your last caller, I'm just gonna— I have to be honest. He's an idiot. Critical race theory is not communist. Sex education is not communist. It's like saying, uh, universal healthcare will lead to the command economy and the Soviet system.
Now you've given us three very different things. Let me hone it down because it wasn't a usage that necessarily I would have said. In fact, my concerns about critical race theory are not, are not so much its roots. They're, they're— it and BLM have a certain Marxist appeal. It's about identifying a white supremacist. Okay, I'll be done. I'll be done in 20 seconds. I'll be done in 20 seconds and then the floor is over. There is a Marxist root to some of its organizers, but I tend not to bog down in that. I tend to take things as they are in front of my face. My problems with CRT are the poisonous ideology, the seeing, the instructing of kids to see the life before them through a poisonous lens of racial grievance. It's just not the way to go. Floor is yours. Go ahead.
Okay.
Okay.
What?
Okay. Tell me, how many schools are teaching CRT to 6th graders in this country?
There are. Do you even know? There are. You've asked a question. I'm going to answer it, and then you'll get to talk and stick back. It'll be great. I'm glad you're here. I really am.
Okay.
You can find everywhere examples of elementary school exercises that start to make sure that kids are inculcated into this notion of white privilege, who's what color and who's not, starting just beginning to help them see things through that racial lens that they want everything seen through. You know this is happening. If you're not, then read a paper.
That's kind of something very general because then that's like saying my nephew his school, you know, he's about 7 years old. They're teaching that. They're not doing that. They're not teaching it in the schools that I'm in, which is over, you know.
I don't think anybody's saying it's pervasive. I'm not saying that it's everywhere. It's not. But it is— it's the seeds are being planted, and it's a good idea to stop it before it becomes pervasive.
Okay. But okay, critical race theory. Are you talking about the one that they teach in graduate school is being the same?
Yeah, it is. It's become— it has become a sort of a broad term, and maybe sometimes it's misapplied. It has become— maybe. But here's the thing, I mean, the specifics of college-level CRT as brought by some professor at some point, that's great. What people have done is they've taken that as a springboard to start teaching from high schools on down that we need to be teaching kids to see history through racial grievance, for them to resent this country, for them to resent each other, for Black kids to be given the poisonous notion that they have to carry this burden of systemic racism around with them at all times. And that's just not the way to teach kids anything.
How much of that is overblown based on the fact of, like, for instance, that a, a school just banned books about Rosa Parks over in Pennsylvania, or that in Texas, for instance, in order to create a balanced history, they now want to— one school district, I don't know how this came about.
Well, I can tell you because it's 5 miles from where I'm sitting.
We should teach the other side of the Holocaust.
This, this is in the famous Southlake situation where a where a woman very inarticulately and very unhelpfully was using examples of how we need to find balance in certain parts of history. And by the way, balance is great, but there's some things that really don't have a contravening narrative, and the Holocaust is one of them. That was not a good moment. And by the way, and by the way, if— and I don't know about the Rosa— the banning a book about Rosa Parks, of course you shouldn't do that. Anyway, but proceed. I mean, I think that people of goodwill can get together and talk about what makes sense and what doesn't. If anybody does go overboard in their opposition to CRT and starts getting rid of like great biographies of Rosa Parks or Frederick Douglass, of course that would be an overreaction. Of course it would.
And I think—
Because from what I'm seeing, because I do see Fox News just on general principle, just to see like what everyone sees, you know, You know, I really prefer watching South Park when it's on Comedy Central. That's the type of guy I am. Okay. Gotcha. Okay. But from— because you can't help but get away from the realities of everyone complaining in the world. From what I see, people get upset about these things, like sort of like the— like just teaching cause and effect. People get upset about how teaching the fact that racism did play a role in why Blacks were kept down and how that influenced the creation of laws and that created a vicious cycle, right? Then that's— then that's teaching that is now jumbled up as critical race theory.
But not really by many people, because I think that's some mythology that's offered by some of its opponents. Because if you find me 100 people who are on the march against CRT, 100 people who are fighting the fight, that I don't think they would know what that is, and ask— and ask— well, I guarantee you they would. And if you ask them, are you against slavery being taught or the evils of Jim Crow? Of course they're not. Of course they're not. What they are against is in 2021, what they are against, what they are against is in 2021 burdening kids with the lens of racial grievance, seeing everything through the lens of racial grievance. That's what they're looking to prevent. And I'm looking to prevent it too.
Okay, can we go into like the sex education part?
Well, actually no, so because we're out of time, but I love you and give me a buzz back anytime. Call Dennis anytime, or me next time I'm filling in. More of you are next. Mark Davis filling in for Dennis. Stick around.
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Gone.
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They lied. They said I was taking horse dewormer. First of all, it was prescribed to me by a doctor along with— they shouldn't have said it was a bunch of other medications. If you got a human pill because there were people that were taking it, the veterinary medication, and I— you're not, obviously, you got it from a doctor, so that it shouldn't be called that.
Ivermectin can be a very effective medication.
Did you see how uncomfortable he was? See, leftists aren't used to pushback, and that's exactly what Joe Rogan gave him— pushback. They're used to existing in these bubbles. They all think alike, they all talk alike. I'm not even sure that they all believe the same thing, but they're so cowardly that they just live to impress each other within their— within these bubbles.
Dude.
Yeah.
So let me— so let me tell you something. This guy, Sanjay Gupta, I've watched him a couple of times on CNN. I've watched some clips and I tried to, you know, just try to stomach through it. Honestly, I don't have a lot of respect for for Sanjay Gupta, because I believe that he deceives a lot of people as well. I believe CNN does that. And first off, the drug ivermectin, we know that it's a human drug. He knows that it's a human drug. And, and Joe Biden— not Joe Biden, Joe Rogan, my goodness— called him out on it, dude. And it's a good thing. And by the way, let me correct the record. The, the, the medicine for animals is called neuromectin, not ivermectin. So not only is CNN lying about it, they don't even have the decency to look up the correct drug for you. This is why we cannot trust the mainstream media. They just lie.
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Well, it is just about closing time, but only for the first hour. One down, two to go. Let's see what's going on on the phone lines to close ourselves out, and then we'll move on. I got some other stuff to bring into the second hour. Everything on the lines, everything you want to call us about is still active. It'll just add in, hopefully skillfully add in additional pastry layers of topicality here on this Thursday. Mark Davison for Dennis, 1-800-PRAGER-776. We are in Pittsburgh, and Frank, that is you. Welcome. Mark Davison for Dennis, how are you doing?
Yes, thank you for taking my call.
My pleasure.
I was inspired by your opening prayer. Uh, can you post it on Dennis's webpage?
Oh, you're so kind. Let me give you the best way to put it, and I get every once in a while people ask this. I kind of wing it. It follows a general theme, but I kind of wing it. It's hard to transcribe specifically, but let me offer you the following way to get it and scribble it down and have it in whatever form you like. I do it every morning on the local show that I host on 660 AM, The Answer here in DFW. So if you go to 660amtheanswer.com and hit podcasts and then find my happy face, go to any given first hour, the 7 o'clock hour each morning, and it's somewhere in that first segment. I'll do it. You can catch it from this morning, yesterday morning, whatever. And then it's like the old Kevin Nealon Saturday Night Live Weekend Update thing. For a transcript of this program, get out a pencil and write down everything I say. So it's in there, and that way you can sort of have it for free for your own usage and edit as you wish. That is very kind of you. I deeply, deeply appreciate it. 1-800-PRAGER-776. Listen, I'll tell you what, rather than give somebody short shrift, next hour I want to get to the exchange between Congressman Mike Johnson, Republican of Louisiana, and Attorney General Merrick Garland. The news tonight is going to be filled with Merrick Garland's day before the House Judiciary Committee. The Democrats have— and this is true anytime there's a committee hearing, anytime somebody is sitting down who's in a hotbed of controversy— both the Republicans and the Democrats each have their own, you know, political goals. Um, the Democrat political goal is to make sure that Merrick Garland looks heroic in his desire to make sure that these aggrieved school board members are not terrorized by by dangerous parents who are taking things too far. And as I said at the beginning of this hour, if there is ever at any school board meeting a parent who really does go beyond the pale and who really does behave in some menacing way toward a school board member, that's a violation of law. And the folks that can handle it are called the local police. There was no need for the attorney general to rope in your local police chief or the FBI or, you know, various U.S. attorneys' offices to ride herd over, to hover over parents. This, every single bit of this, is a desire, it's a plan, a design to stigmatize the very notion of parents daring to protest what is happening in school boards around the country. And some of that protest may, uh, be imparted in the Virginia gubernatorial race in a couple of weeks. Mark Davison for Dennis Prager. Stick around, got a lot more to come.
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About your time in the White House. What kind of a ride that was for you. We played this clip at the beginning, this insanity. Why didn't you mention this? You mean the thing I talked about 2 days ago? And from this point, but he didn't tweet about it. I mean, just the sheer insanity. Talk to us about what that was like to live through. And then give us your take on what went wrong in the Trump administration.
What went right?
What went wrong?
So, I mean, look, it was tumultuous. It was intense. I think that, look, this goes back to what we were just talking about. Trump upset the apple cart and every president, both parties that come in need 3 groups, right? You need the press, you need donors, and you need sort of the permanent K Street lobbyist types. Trump's view was, if you want to join me, great, but I don't need you.
Yeah.
And what happened was, 'cause he won without them.
Yes. And they were, but, but here's the thing, I'll say it in a very PG way, but like they're used to having their butt hot-kissed. And they're used to people saying, I'd love to have you come over to my house in Georgetown for a dinner party where we can discuss the ins and outs of the NATO, you know, it's like they want you to, you know, and he was like, look, I'm doing this, I'm doing it this way.
If you want to join me, great, but I don't need you.
And it pissed them off.
Yeah, this especially the conservatives, no, who thought that they were, you know, the Bill Kristols of the world. What do you mean you're not coming to me for a briefing.
Like, how do you go? How do you do that?
You—
how dare you? I'm part of the institution, right?
I come with the ring.
I come with the drapes, you know. And I think that that was upsetting, especially for the press corps. And that was their thing, is that they were like, you're supposed to do this. You're supposed to act this way. You're supposed— and again, my, my sort of marching orders from Trump were, do get my message out, do what I want.
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And so what they want you to believe is that there is a sword hanging by a thread above your existence. So this Sword of Damocles was a parable. and it became a motif in medieval literature. And basically, this is the quote from Cicero, who was a one-year Roman consul who was phenomenal. He was actually killed right near the time of Julius Caesar's death. And Julius Caesar had this beautiful quote where he said, "The more laws, the less justice." Founding Fathers loved Cicero, but Cicero wrote about the tale of Damocles and represented the idea that those in power always labor under the specter of anxiety and death, and that, quote, there can be no happiness for the one who is under constant apprehensions. And so every man, woman, and child who lives under a nuclear sword of Damocles hanging by the slenderest of threads, capable of being cut at any moment by accident or miscalculation or madness. That was a speech that John F. Kennedy gave to the United Nations back in 1961 talking about nuclear weapons. But essentially, if you get the visual, there's like the sword hanging from the ceiling by a thread, and they want every parent who shows up at the school board meeting to be afraid that at any moment that sword could drop from the ceiling and drop on you and metaphorically or possibly end your life by putting you in prison. Let me read this again. That no man can be free under the labor or the anxiety of constant apprehension or penalty. They want people to have nervous glances of the blade dangling above them.
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It occurs that today when we're talking, 22 of the 25 ranked colleges in national football by the AP are in red states. Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State. And some of those 25 that are in purple states like Penn State are in the red part of the purple state. Only Oregon and San Diego State are in blue states. Do you have a theory? I do. As to why college football succeeds in red states far beyond the way it succeeds in blue states today?
Well, I think it represents this. It doesn't. And it's unlike pro football, which has become performance woke art. I think a lot of people in these places incorporate going out to a Saturday football game in the same sense as Fourth of July or standing for the national anthem or singing God Bless America. It's a festive public ritual for red state America and in a way that pro sports used to be. But now the NBA or the NFL, even Major League Baseball, has forfeited that. It's become a Hollywood-centric or celebrity-centric or New York-centric sport. So I think they're— they're actually— their popularity is increasing as a result that people innately like sports, but they're shifting from pro sports, I think, to what you talk about.
Well, I also want to add to your assessment, when you think about this, the red states are least amenable to woke college politics.
You're generally correct, because especially the Board of Regents are the overseers. They come from business, they come from all walks of life, and they just don't put up with it.
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It is The Dennis Prager Show for this Thursday, October 21st, 2021. Mark Davis filling in for Dennis. He will be back tomorrow. He's doing great, and we're doing great together, enjoying a little, uh, topical back and forth, enjoying life, enjoying— well, enjoying being a relative term. I always enjoy the dialogue, but there is plenty not to enjoy. There is plenty to note that is going on, and I think the thing that I do enjoy, no matter how no matter how dreadful things get, no matter how desperate the status quo is, the feeling that optimism is at hand, that there's— it's an old adage that things get worse before they get better. I mean, would we be seeing these various nightmares if Trump had won a second term? I know he did. Well, another day. If Trump were actually serving as president now, would we be experiencing the spending that we are now? Would we be experiencing the spike in gas prices that we are now? Would we be experiencing the, the, the destroyed supply chains that we are now? Would we be suppressed by this wet blanket of lowered expectations like we are now? Would we be saddled with an anti-business governmental vibe that exacerbates unemployment and throws money at people not to work? Would we have skyrocketing crime, unlivable cities, broken schools, and broken borders? I'm not pretending that it's all nirvana, it's all, you know, unicorns and rainbows if Trump had won a second term, or if we get a Republican president in 2024. I'm just saying that I believe that as bad as those things are that I've just mentioned, that it's not just the conservatives who are noting them, It's not just the people, you know, who voted against Biden who are noticing this. There may be actually some buyer's remorse on the part of people who actually believed him when he said, I'm going to unite people, I'm going to, you know, build back better. Build what? Back better from what? Back from what? America's back on the world stage. Oh, we're back, all right. Back in our kneeling position, back in our position of supplication to the world's terrorists and tyrants. Now that's back. I didn't want that back. So moving forward, I'll just say that I sense that help is on the way, that there will in 2022— I mean, I'd love to sit here and tell you that I know Glenn Youngkin is going to win in Virginia. We have a lot of DC and Virginia affiliates. It's up to you guys. I can't wave some magical talk show guy wand and go, ooh, here we go, Glenn Youngkin's going to beat Terry McAuliffe. Life because this is still a purple-leaning blue state and has been for a while. Not, not because of Blacksburg or Charlottesville or Lexington or Hampton, but it's because of those, uh, those infernal DC suburbs. It's Fairfax, it's Alexandria, it's Arlington, it's Annandale. That's what, that's what's making you a blue state, kid. That's a lot of population up there and, uh, a lot of government workers up there. And so that's how you get, uh, that's how you get Virginia going Democrat for, for these last few years. What is it that enables Glenn Youngkin to blast through some of that in the way that Trump did? What you've got to do, and what the Republican standard bearer needs to do in 2024, is get people to vote for him, her, uh, who maybe, who may be voting Republican for the first time in their lives, or people who are voting Republican not because they forever been a steadfast conservative, but because they look at what's going on now, they just said, this is not working, this is not good. You know, the store shelves are empty, gas costs 4-something a gallon, the borders are falling apart, our schools are falling apart, crime is spiking everywhere. This, this is not working. New time to give these other guys a chance, huh?
So why not?
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How you doing today?
Very good.
Thank you for taking this. I listened to your caller from Los Alamitos, uh, and it kind of made me sick in my stomach if that's true, because I own the local newspaper from '98 to 2005 and lived there. Well, the people there are majority, and I think still are conservative and, uh, as Orange County was. And, you know, my point is that to see that happen, uh, it just reflects to me always, because I was in the newspaper business almost 50 years, that with the death of community newspapers, no more checks and balances. And this would have never happened back when, when I was there from '98 to 2005 because we had the We'd have the story covered. We'd be there at the school board meeting. I doubt whether anybody was there unless maybe the Orange County Register.
I don't know. For those that don't know, let me help some people out for a minute. For those that don't know, last hour a gentleman called from that community in California who said, we're trying to show up, we're trying to push back against the radicalization of the curricula, we're trying to, you know, do this, etc., etc.
Etc.
And, and what they were met with was a massive opposing protest movement, which is fine, everybody's got the right to show up in whatever numbers they have, but they like showed up 8 o'clock in the morning and took up all the speaking slots, etc., etc. Uh, any school board needs to make sure that it's not, uh, first come first serve, but rather a representation across the board of what people want to say so that they can have a diversity of— there's a diversity that matters— a diversity of opinion. And the gentleman found that the board was outright hostile to one particular side of that debate. That having been said, your point, and I would agree with you, huge fan of community newspapers, but it depends on the community newspaper, doesn't it? It depends on who's doing the job, and that local journalism, whether it's a small paper or large, needs to be willing to show up and actually tell both sides and actually be fair.
You know, I agree with you. Marketing. But the problem is that social media, which I never thought was going to happen, has basically killed the local community newspaper. I always thought it was going to kill the big newspapers, but it's killed that. And again, with that was a check and balance that was always there that, you know, people like this new superintendent— I don't know who it is now— and these people that showed up in purple shirts, if that's the case. I'm going to also suspect that many of those weren't from that area. I would throw that into—
wouldn't surprise me.
Yeah, I don't know that, but I would say that Los Alamitos is— I can't believe that such a conservative community would be happy with that type of thing. But you know, well, look, right, right, right to my west in Southlake.
Southlake's a conservative community and they're fighting tooth and nail, you know. So it's, it's, it's not so much— it's sometimes it's not necessarily the political makeup of the electorate, but it's who runs for the school board and who wins, which can be a different story. Go ahead.
Yeah, and you can't, you know, you just, you can't never just, you can complain and complain and sit on your butt and nothing's ever going to happen. You got to get off of it and fight for what we have.
So let me ask you something in our remaining minute or two. Let me ask you something because I'm fascinated by the nuts and bolts of this kind of thing. It seems to be your, your thesis that social media has contributed to the death of small community newspapers.
How?
Well, I always thought that social media would never be able to cover and get down to local news, but what happens is that people— it still doesn't really, but people have gotten so trained to listen and listen to their, uh, look at social media, get their news from social media, but they don't care. They don't go anymore. They don't go to the meeting. And like I said, the newspapers that are left are struggling to stay alive, so they don't, they don't want to offend anybody. I mean, we used to, in the heyday of newspapers, you know, I mean, we called it like it was. And, and I believe we were, you know, not perfect, but, you know, You know, we had strong editorial pages, you know, and we kept the editor, we kept the comments from the stories. I mean, I had dismissed reporters over my career who added their own, uh, you know, two cents into a story. Thank you.
Demanding actual objectivity. Good for you. Good for you. A lot of lost art. Well, man, listen, let me, let me, I appreciate, thank you for letting me examine that a little bit because I guess the phenomenon that's at play here is I can pick up my happy little phone here and read about anything anywhere, big city to a small town.
That—
but that doesn't mean that it's reliable. You know what's in my little phone here? You know what's in social media? Every blowhard that has a phone just like mine. Every, you know, every ne'er-do-well, uh, who has a Twitter account or a Facebook account. And I— you know who else is on there? Some geniuses, some wonderful people, but you just don't know. And here's the thing, but, but I can almost hear you talking to me, same with newspapers, depends on the newspaper. So the unfortunate thing, silly me, I'd like for social media to be out there and for community newspapers to thrive as well. Hope I'm not asking too much. Be right back.
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Bank transactions. The Democrats want the IRS to snoop around and check out out what you're doing if you have a bank account with more than $600 in it. They want to get involved in your PayPal transactions. You're sending money to your kids, they want— the IRS wants to know all about that. They think they can drag more money out of us. Like, the IRS and the Democrats' scheme is we got to figure a way to pay for all this crap, all this spending the Democrats want. Okay, here's where we can do Let's go audit a bunch of people who— and let's go check out grandma sending $601 to their grandkid via PayPal. And when a reporter pointed out to Pelosi that Americans are livid about this, and is it going to stay in your reconciliation bill, Pelosi had a very predictable answer.
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When I started teaching, I was only 25. I was only 7 years— I was only 7 years older than my students. Uh, that's, that's not a great span of time, uh, for between a man and a young woman. And, uh, um, it is a daily distraction.
That's right, it is. I thank you for your honesty. That is exactly right. And it is not his fault, he's built that way. It's no more his fault than food is a distraction to the hungry. Okay, there was no difference between the two. So I'll tell you an interesting story, really interesting. Many years ago, and I can't find this on the internet, maybe one of you can and that would be of great help to me.
A—
and I only remember that he was from a university in Indiana, but I don't remember which university. What'd you say, Sean? So, uh, he, a professor, did a study and found that one of the two groups— I don't remember the second— of men most likely to divorce were high school teachers, and I think college teachers. In other words, men around a great number of young women divorced at a greater rate than any other men. And I had that, I had that professor on with that stuff. So if you could find that, I could read it to you.
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Hello.
Hey, how are you?
I'm fine. I'm calling because my little boy is 5 years old and he's in kindergarten, and at his kindergarten, um, he has to wear a mask all day long from 7 in the morning to 2:40 and off to school. But my concern is they stamp him with the ink all day on his little, um, hands, and I asked the school, is that toxic? Is it non-toxic? And they tell me they don't know.
And I missed something. Veronica, go back, go back about 10 seconds. They stamped him with what?
They stamped the little kids, all the little kindergarteners with a stamp on their wrist that they passed the COVID question every day with a stamp.
Okay.
So I don't know if the stamp is toxic or not toxic because it's bad enough he has to wear a mask all day, then run around the playground with a stamp of ink on him.
You know, Well, Veronica, in a world that is filled with things to worry about, I— if we've been there, we've been stamping each other with ink, you know, are the— in the history, since the history of humanity and the history of ink. So I, I don't think I really— I don't think I'd— so is there anything other than whether the stamp is toxic that we can cover today?
Well, no. Well, then, and the little boy in his classroom had COVID and his little class of kids at his desk, and they told me not to send him to school until I get further notice. And so I didn't get a further notice of anything. Then I get a thing that he has 5 absences with no excuse.
Veronica, we are bogging down in minutia I cannot possibly hope to fathom. So let me give you like 30 seconds for a sweet exit What do you want to leave us with? What's the lesson of all this? What do you miss most?
It's just that it's scary because even though they try to do all this protection, the little boy in his classroom still had COVID, but they won't even let us know what was the outcome of that.
Gotcha. There you go. Now, the strong finish and best of health to you and your boy. Boy, a couple of things there. And in fact, it may take me to a John Podorec column in the New York Post. That is about the Biden administration's attempt to scare the living daylights out of you about vaccinating 5 to 11-year-olds. There is no logical basis for some widespread campaign to inoculate 5 and 5 to 11-year-olds. But by the lady's own testimony, do you get your occasional really young kid 'Who gets it?' Yes, you do. Um, nobody stands a better chance of having a real almost uneventful trip through COVID like a third grader. You know, I don't want anybody to get it. I don't want anybody of any age to get it. And if, as these vaccines come out for the ages 5 to 11, if you want to vaccinate your, you know, prepubescent kid knock yourself out. That, that is your choice too. Um, the— some of the rhetoric— and I am, I'm going to do a couple more calls. I may do the, I may do the John Podhoretz column in, in the very next segment because, because it's great. He totally nails it, uh, that what the Biden folks are trying to do is just change the subject from supply chain, gas prices, unemployment, wrecked economy, dysfunctional borders crime spiking, unlivable cities, you know, stuff like that. Um, let's see here. I got room for another call here before we, uh, go back in. Uh, telephone number is 1-800-776-1776. We are in Spartanburg, South Carolina. Ronnie. Hey, Mark Davison for Dennis. How are you doing?
Hey, good, Mark. Um, yeah, I just wanted to answer, uh, your first opening question that I don't— I think it could have very well been different under Trump than what we're living through right now, but I don't think the Democrats would have allowed it. Remember all those, uh, crazy investigations against him and stuff like that?
You know what, you, you have— you've latched on to something with great skill, because when I began that paragraph, would things be different if Trump won, uh, if Trump were, you know, still serving as I was thinking in terms of how the policies would be better and there would be things that would not be happening that Biden is doing. But you are 100% correct. We probably would have had impeachment 3 and 4. There'd be other— I mean, who knows what kind of other wreckage they would be attempting. I'd still take it. I mean, Lord knows I would still take it. But I think now you're running right to the root of the quandary some people have. Over whether they want him to run again. I thank God every day for the Trump presidency and every day of it. By the time we get to 2024 and we crawl out of this Biden nightmare, to help us crawl out of this Biden nightmare, I love him, I love him. I might be looking at some DeSantis, man. I might want to be looking at that Tom Cotton candidacy, that Mike Pompeo candidacy, you know, that Ted Cruz candidacy. They're all there. Just if I can have his fighting spirit, his agenda embodied in somebody that's maybe not 78— there is that too— and with, with Trump there to take up residency rent-free in, in the brains of every enemy, he's still going to be the most important. Even if DeSantis is president, Trump may still be the most important political figure in the country, and I think he knows it. And maybe, maybe that's the best path. I don't know. We'll see.
Well, thanks for your answer. I appreciate it.
Thank you. It's, it's my joy. It's my pleasure. Thank you Thank you very much. Yeah, I had— let me throw a book at you, um, not throw the book at you, throw a book title at you, and that is In Trump's Shadow by the great David M. Drucker, the Washington Examiner. Uh, he did a lot of good reporting on this, talked to a lot of— interviewed Trump and a bunch of other people, everybody I just mentioned, Cotton and, uh, and, um, and Pompeo. We see Mike Pompeo, whatever he's doing, we ought to— Mike Pompeo drop about 100 pounds. He is, he is tanned, rested, and ready, man. I don't know what, whatever he's going to be doing, uh, I'm intrigued. Listen, if— and you know what, I got a Pompeo thought and a China thought in a minute. Stay here.
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Religion. It's not just about saying I have a right in this country to not have the government not allow me to go to church, but also that the government cannot compel me to participate in any sort of event, including a vaccine, by the way, that goes against my sincerely held religious beliefs. And so it should just be a matter of course that if you have a conscious objection, then you can say, I, as a Christian, as as a Muslim, as a Jew, as any sort of religion. I mean, this covers all religions, by the way, all faiths, all sincerely held beliefs. You should be able to say, I decline to be coerced into participation. But what we're seeing is that a lot of employers are not only requiring a lot of information for people to say, you know, well, you have to justify your religious exemption. We're also seeing that they want this so-called, what they're calling an interactive process that's basically an interrogation. I have clients right now that they have filed for a religious exemption on the basis of, we're pro-life, that's what the Bible teaches, and I cannot take this vaccine. And the human resources department from the legal counsel of these employers want to sit down and basically interrogate them and say, is this really a sincerely held religious belief? And they're using this as a pretext to try to deny religious exemptions. It's absurd. And I hope that when there are more lawsuits filed, like just today in Texas, United Airlines was forbidden from enforcing their vaccine mandate against employees who are claiming a religious exemption. So we're already seeing that the courts are protecting this, but hopefully it'll be more than just Texas.
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Larry Sabato from the Virginia Center of Politics, and he said for all the talk about the 2022 midterms, really what we need to be focused on is a 2021 midterm that occurs November 2nd in Virginia.
Now what occurs to me that is a great tell is President Biden is not coming to help out. Terry McAuliffe. They're bringing in former President Obama to try and generate some enthusiasm without setting you up one way or the other. How do you cover critical race theory? Because it's become the central issue in Virginia. What do you say about it?
Well, critical race theory has become the proxy for the school district fight in Virginia and who should control what children are taught. And you have some of those largest and most liberal school districts in the country in Virginia. Also some of the more conservative school districts in Virginia. And what I thought was key, and obviously you've played this soundbite a lot, is the Yunkin-McAuliffe debate, which goes to show you why real debates and real news, especially in politics, are important and actually sometimes elicit the most interesting things, where Terry McAuliffe essentially said that parents should not have a say in what what their children are taught, whether it relates to critical race theory, whether it relates to gender studies, whether it relates to transsexual issues, whatever it is. Terry McAuliffe thinks the school boards and the teachers unions know better. That's a perfectly legitimate political argument. What was interesting was he actually said the quiet part out loud. He said the thing that Democrats rarely, if ever, admit, which is they don't want parents' input if it disagrees with their worldview, and the parents shouldn't really have a say Once he said that, and I think you would acknowledge, that's really when the race changed.
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1st of October. Okay, I was in mid-sentence and the clock is a cruel taskmaster. So here's, here was my point about Pompeo, and I talked about that with David Drucker on the local show this Dennis Prager this morning, because he's written this book, In Trump's Shadow, examining all kinds of people who may, may throw their hat, in their hats, plural, in the ring collectively to run for the Republican nomination in 2024. And DeSantis is just all the rage, and for every good reason. Love me some Ron DeSantis. I've been a longtime fan of Tom Cotton. Long time fan of Pompeo from before he was Secretary of State. But do you know what might be playing right into a Pompeo presidential run? And that is if this China nonsense intensifies. Um, part of foreign policy is going to be a part of any, um, not necessarily the resume because DeSantis has no foreign policy resume at all, But guess what? Neither did Trump. And it's not about whether you've spent years and years steeped in the history and methodology of foreign policy. It's whether your heart is right, whether your head is right, whether your spine is strong enough to present a strong America to the world. Pompeo's awesome, and the skill set that he brings And none of these guys are, you know, one-trick ponies. They've all got a lot going on. But if China is front of mind as we get to the point where it's time to start personally, each of us vetting our presidential candidates, then I think that'll accrue to his benefit because he spends a lot of time talking about it now and probably will moving forward. We're talking about a bunch of things at 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. We are in San Antonio. And, uh, Mark, that is you. Hang on a second, let me hit the right button. Hello, sir. Mark Davidson for Dennis. How you doing?
I'm doing good. How are you?
Good, thank you.
Hey, I was just curious why we keep calling this a vaccine, and you just said a minute ago that they wanted to inoculate the children. That was really not an inoculation.
I don't care about this one bit. Nope, not gonna do going to do it. Not going to do it. Just not going to do it. We're in Los Angeles. Brent, Mark Davis. Hi, how are you? And for Dennis, how are you?
Hello, God bless you, Mark.
God bless you back.
Thanks. I, I wanted to say that President Biden's orders to Attorney General Garland, the FBI, Democrat school boards, teacher associations, and unions to extort and terrorize responsible religious parents who are rejecting their children being taught Democrat CRT racism racism or being sexually abused psychologically and emotionally in Democrat trans terror bathrooms, or to have their children's health, safety, and welfare be devastated by the Biden-Fauci poison jabs that can kill, cripple, and sterilize, they must start boycotting these hateful Biden schools who outlaw humanity.
Biden schools.
Morality.
Is it— do you think there's something to— I tell you what seems this— every couple of days I hear people will put up some call that says get your kids out of government schools, private schools, homeschool, something like that. And the public school power structure is scared to death of that. So there may be people who are taking folks up on that even as we speak. Uh, Tom, Mark Davis, how are you? In for Dennis. How are you doing?
Hey, thank you very much, Mark. Uh, your prayer at the beginning of the show is always inspirational. Thank you, and greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Well, Mark, in the last year and a half, I have seen the proliferation of the worst pandemic ever, and I don't mean COVID, bad as it is. I mean the pandemic of pure evil that is being perpetrated mainly by the Democrat Party. When you look at the evil in Afghanistan, innocent women and little children being sent to their death by President Biden and the Democrats. Raw evil. When you look at the horror on the Mexican border, little children being molested, raped, and worse. When you look at the abortion issue, the killing of God's innocent children, just to name a few. The Democrats, Mark, this is not a joke. Take the C out and and put in an N. They are the demon rats, and it's good, good God versus evil Satan, the transcendent battle since the beginning of history.
Well, I wonder often— and I gotta scoot, I appreciate you— I wonder, because there are issues I can agree or disagree with you, but I mean in terms of when people come at me with some policy that I disagree with, but The, the, to be lackadaisical about life in the womb, to suggest it's just a clump of cells, to willfully open our borders and say it doesn't matter what that does to the country, to, to misguide the direction of our kids. Just what even, what guides people to do that? Mark Davison for Dennis Prager.
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The public would be outraged if they knew the truth. Why do you think our politicians are not on the sidewalk right now talking to you?
Don't have no respect. The old wall randomly turns into a guardrail followed by miles of open border. You like that?
That journey is extremely dangerous.
The 7-year-old girl died in the desert from the country of India. A great pillar of the community was killed by a man who had been deported at least twice.
This little urn contains the ashes of my son, his dreams cut short forever.
We're so worried about other countries' problems, and we don't even focus on our own.
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There's about 57 Muslim states in the world.
There's one Jewish state. The massive ingathering of Jews in the last 150 years back to the land is absolutely unprecedented. They say that there's no greater sign of redemption coming than the Jewish people returning to the hills of Judea.
As a Christian, I've always supported Israel's claim to the Holy Land.
To me, the Palestinians were just getting in the way of God's plan.
300,000 Palestinians are unemployed.
In spite of all the years of conflict, there's hope here if you know where to look for it.
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Man, I miss my father and I want him to be here with me. But he's not. We all had something in common. A lot of us were miserable. We had no fathers in our lives. This is how I began the life of crime.
I desired to have a father who would tell me that what I did was wrong.
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I grew up "po," which is even worse than being "poor." We would have sandwiches with no meat. My American dream entailed working hard and making $20,000 a year, but I surpassed that goal and became a corporate CEO. We'll all be able to say, "Free at last!
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Judge Thomas, do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
I was under constant attack. You're not really black because you're not doing what we expect black people to do. This is the wrong black guy. He has to be destroyed.
So you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court?
I'd rather rather die than withdraw from the process.
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The Democratic Party somehow has convinced Black people that they're the good guys, never mind the skanky history of the Democratic Party. That was a party of slavery. They're racist, racist, racist. Everything's racist.
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This Thursday, the 21st day of October 2021, Mark Davis in for Dennis. Dennis will be back tomorrow to finish off your week. We got a lot of topical plates spinning, and it's a joy to handle all of them with you at 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. 776. We are in Deer Park, Illinois. And Tom, that is you. Mark Davison for Dennis Prager. Good Thursday to you. How are you?
Hi, Mark. Thank you for taking my call. Uh, I told the call screener I was curious if he'd have Kevin Williamson, um, from National Review on. I, I'm going off recollection. I'm paraphrasing because I'm behind the wheel, but he's talking about talk radio in general and your Dallas show Specifically about a smart guy that acts galactically moronic for the audience.
It's funny because I think, first of all, I'm familiar with Kevin. Kevin does a lot of writing for National Review, etc., etc. Over the years, he's done some things I've agreed with, but then Trump hatred ate his brain and his soul. So that just is, that's just is what it is. I think Kevin did at some point take some cheap, stupid potshot at me, which I spend zero time caring about. However, I will tell you, as far as having— I'll have dialogue with anybody. I'm, you know, I'd rather, rather enjoy mixing it up with people sometimes. And usually when people insult me, uh, it's, it's kind of entertaining because it's many times— not all the time, because sometimes it's deserved— but usually it shows me that I'm on to something. So what would be, uh, what would be the source? So what would be the source of your curiosity about that? How do you think that would What would be, what would be your desire to have that happen?
Well, I just, you know, I'm, I'm kind of tuned in. I'm on, I'm right center right, and I just watched like the devolution of it. I'm using air quotes, conservative talk radio turned into right-winger-y. And I, you know, I know some guys that are in one, that business, and it's like I don't even recognize them anymore.
I'm curious, because I'm obviously a fan and historian and student of my industry. What has changed for the worse? What, you know, 10 years ago versus now, 20 years ago versus now, what is it that has bothered you so much?
Well, I guess it probably saw it coming, but it really manifested itself when Trump started walking through the primaries. And, you know, like I'd say, and they said, hey, you guys gotta back Trump.
Not at all. Not at all. Nobody ever said you had to back Trump, but maybe the memo did come down at some point that you can't bag on him every day. Maybe there's that. So I think we're on to something here. Your overall problem with conservative talk radio broadly defined is that conservative talk radio rather enjoyed Trump and you didn't.
Okay. I mean, it's just been 5 years since I've heard, you know, the likes of a Jonah Goldberg or a George Will or a—
God help us. But here's— it's funny because— and pardon my retort— because these guys have their own platforms. They're great. These are guys who hate Trump's guts. That doesn't— this analogy doesn't always work because if you think of a music station playing songs that the audience likes. You know, a country station playing, you know, the Ramones is not going to go well in conservative talk radio. And listen, if it were different, I think you would hear different things, but the vast majority of conservative America thanks God Trump was president every day. If you don't, and Jonah don't, and George Will doesn't, then, then maybe that's y'all's deal and not my problem.
Well, you know, it's your radio show. And Salem has every right to do what they do. My personal mark— and again, I thank you for the call.
Sure, I love you.
I don't think you're doing the conservative movement, the Republican Party.
Now we're on this. Now tell me that— I always love this. Tell me how the fact that I love what happened during Trump and you don't, tell me how that— that's not just a difference of opinion that you and I have, but somehow I and like 90% of Republican America, tell us how we're the problem, how we're disserving conservatism. Please, please enlighten me.
You're not having any intellectual conservatives on. They've been purged.
Like what? No, no, excuse me, your definition of an— dude, I'm an intellectual conservative. Your definition of it is somebody who hates Trump as much as you do. These people are everywhere. There's no shortage of Never Trump vitriol. All in the public square. These people are everywhere. I don't know what the complaint is, but I'll tell you this, but let's really get down to it. What was— what do you— okay, you said you're sort of center-right. What are the things— here's a question: as a conservative, as a conservative, what should I not like about Trump?
How about the fact that he lies and he's crazy?
No.
Says he was.
That is a Trump hatred. That is a never-Trump index card. Stop it. As a conservative, what is a thing Trump did, a policy that I should not like?
No policy. I mean, he's got the 3 Supreme Court justices who are under jurists. Thank you. So, you know, that's all fine. But I said—
Of course it's all fine. Of course it is. That's why all of you— Then listen, I've asked a question about me. Let me ask a question about you. What was it that you didn't like? A policy, a thing, an achievement of the Trump years that you did not like?
It's not the policies, Mark. I'm talking about the man. It's not—
Dude, I gotta be honest with you. And that is exactly why this is so ridiculous. Are you telling me that policies, that all the policies, put that aside, it's just something stylistic that you didn't like? How insane How insane is that, Tom? How crazy is that? And you're a smart guy. You're sitting here telling me somebody can deliver all or most of what you want, but if there's just some— I don't like the mean tweets, I don't like blah, blah, blah. God, that's just crazy.
Orange man bad, mean tweets. That's the typical Trump or put off.
Well, then do better. Then do better for your side. Do better for your side. Tell me the things I— that's the reason I asked you, as a conservative. I mean, I loved every day of that presidency. Were there moments where there were a tweet, I was like, oh Lord, you're killing me, sir? Sure, but so what? So what, Tom?
Mark, who's— do you accept that Joe Biden won the election fair and square?
He is president, and I have no idea, and you don't either. There were so many rules and so many norms and so many laws shelved on the rocks of COVID panic. The 2020 result is forever tainted. Now, am I interested in looking in the rearview mirror for the rest of my life about that? I am not. I'm interested in the 2024 election being cleaner and better. Do you support the moves that various states are making to improve election security?
I'm not totally up to speed on that.
Okay, no problem. I won't hold you to that. It's been time. I have loved talking to you. I appreciate you, and you belong on any show that I ever do, uh, my show or filling in for anybody. Be right back.
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Fiancé?
No, I can't be your fiancé.
You're gonna go. You're gonna be my fiancé, and you're gonna be be the most amazing, fascinating, most successful man ever. We're only going to be there for a few hours, eat dinner, and I promise we'll have the best breakup of all time.
My baby, my princess! Oh yeah!
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Bank transactions. The Democrats want the IRS to snoop around and check out what you're doing if you have a bank account with more than $600 in it. They want to get involved in your PayPal transactions. You're sending money to your kids. They want— the IRS wants to know all about that. They think they can drag more money out of us, like the IRS. And the Democrats' scheme is we got to figure a way to pay for all this crap, all this spending the Democrats want. Okay, here's where we can do it. Let's go audit a bunch of people who— and let's go check out Grandma sending $601 to their grandkid via PayPal. And when a reporter pointed out out to Pelosi that Americans are livid about this? And is it going to stay in your reconciliation bill? Pelosi had a very predictable answer.
Yes, there are concerns that some people have, but if people are breaking the law and not paying their taxes, one way to track them is through the banking measure. I think $600, but that's a negotiation that will go on as to what the amount is. But yes, Yes.
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Oh, we will.
People will let you know what they think around here. DennisPrager.com, and you can watch the proceedings whether Dennis is here or me. And, uh, and always go to PragerU and all things Dennis at DennisPrager.com. Mark Davis filling in today. Dennis is back tomorrow. And you can follow me on Twitter @MarkDavis. I want to thank the last gentleman who did it, who did some homework. I don't know if he Googled this or just remembered it. I found I found the piece that Kevin Williamson wrote at National Review where he bagged on me, and it is comical. It's awesome. What put me into Kevin's ill-aimed crosshairs is that I had welcomed a candidate. We had a vacancy in the 6th Congressional District, and we had a big, crowded primary from the death of the wonderful Ron Wright. A seat now held by the wonderful Jake Elzy. But when like 25 people were running in the primary, I was glad to welcome a whole bunch of people, including the one candidate, the one who hates Trump's guts. Bring it, let's go, let's have a good time. And we did. It was wonderful. Kevin didn't enjoy the way that conversation went, I guess because I didn't kneel in supplication to the Trump-hating candidate's superior logic, didn't accept his thesis that Trumpism was destroying conservatism and laying waste to the Republican Party and an asteroid is hurtling toward the Earth. I didn't buy that for a nanosecond. So what needed to happen is that Kevin then needed to insult me in a delicious piece that he wrote. The title of it, if you want to find it, is what the Republican Party needs versus what it wants. How awesome is this? These people, man, these people. Look, if you hate Trump, whatever, that's all right. You disagree with me, eh, we'll talk about it. That's great. But the narcissism, the seething self-absorption of these people, that the 90-some percent of Republicans who either love Trump and a lot of them want him to run again, or somebody a whole lot like him, like a DeSantis or a Tom Cotton or Mike Pompeo, whatever, that Trumpism in terms of the spirit of fighting, the desire to just hand it to the left and not lay down and take it from them, the desire to have constitutionalist Supreme Court justices and a pro-business atmosphere, just various things from the Trump agenda, America America first, presenting a strong America to the world, all those Trumpian things that we're just so horribly wrong about all of them, and only they know what's best for us. Guys, knock yourselves out. Enjoy life in that very small treehouse. Mark Davison for Dennis Prager. Stick around, we got more to come right after the top of the hour, so get ready. We'll be here.
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The smear is backtracking. So it's happening. People have to stand up. These people understand that they have to get reelected. And sometimes we just have to remind them who's in charge. And we the people are in charge. That is our system. It is a democratic republic. We all get to participate, but we elect people that we trust. We put them in office and we trust them to keep us safe. We trust them to abide by the Constitution. And to keep us free. And when they do not do that, we have to kick their butts out of office. But the important thing is, as voters, you have to always be mindful of freedom. You have to always be mindful of freedom. Quite frankly, I do believe that it's one of the advantages that I have as a black conservative. You can call me Uncle Tom sellout, whatever, whatever.
Are.
Um, there's no affirmative action plan in heaven. All I have to do is worry about Jesus. I don't have time to worry about you. But I do believe as black conservatives, I, I compare us to runaway slaves because I often say our thoughts are consumed with freedom. That's what happens oftentimes with black conservatives is we find out and we get this piece of information, we get piece of history and we're like, what? The federal government or the Democrat Party did what to enslave us? What did they do? And then you just start looking for that. I also believe it's an advantage of people of faith have, whether you're Christian, whether you're Jewish.
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Secretary Chao, I'm glad you were available today because there are two headlines. One from the Wall Street Journal: Biggest U.S. retailers charter private cargo ships to sail around port delays. Then in the New York Times: It's not sustainable. What America's port crisis looks like up close. There aren't enough workers. There aren't enough ships. You've been the Secretary of Labor and the Secretary of Transportation.
What do we do?
It's a very dire situation. You know, when COVID initially hit our shores early in 2020, I was then Secretary of Transportation, and we quickly focused on keeping the transportation supply chain open so that essential medical supplies, groceries, and other essentials were available. And that effort actually required some pretty strong measures. Number one, we decided to ease some restrictions on truckers so that they can keep goods moving. We made sure that the national airspace kept airplanes flying because even though at one point planes were nearly empty of passengers, commercial airliners also routinely transport a lot of goods, especially medical supplies. You know, remember those early days of the initial lockdowns? We had hoarding of toilet paper, sanitizers, shortage of masks. US stores are putting limits on how much customers can buy of one item. And more than 70% of domestic freight moves via trucks. But today's supply chain problems extend all the way where worker shortages and COVID lockdowns have slowed the loading of cargo ships from where they started to US ports where, as you just mentioned, the other day there were over 60 freighters with tens of thousands of, storage containers offshore waiting for an opportunity to unload.
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Religion, it's not just about saying I have a right in this country to not have the government not allow me to go to church, but also that the government cannot compel me to participate in any sort of event, including a vaccine, by the way, that goes against my sincerely held religious beliefs. And so it should just be a matter of course that if you have a conscious objection, then you can say, I, as a Christian, as a Muslim, as a as a Jew, as any sort of religion. I mean, this covers all religions, by the way, all faiths, all sincerely held beliefs. You should be able to say, I decline to be coerced into participation. But what we're seeing is that a lot of employers are not only requiring a lot of information for people to say, you know, well, you have to justify your religious exemption. We're also seeing that they want this so-called, what they're calling an interactive process, that's basically an interrogation. I have clients right now that they have filed for a religious exemption on the basis of, we're pro-life, that's what the Bible teaches, and I cannot take this vaccine. And the human resources department from the legal counsel of these employers want to sit down and basically interrogate them and say, is this really a sincerely held religious belief? And they're using this as a pretext pretext to try to deny religious exemptions. It's absurd. And I hope that when there are more lawsuits filed, like just today in Texas, United Airlines was forbidden from enforcing their vaccine mandate against employees who are claiming a religious exemption. So we're already seeing that the courts are protecting this, but hopefully it'll be more than just Texas.
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Joe Mark Davis filling in from 660 AM. He answered Dallas-Fort Worth. Hope all is well. With you. As Steve Winwood himself would instruct, just roll with it, baby. We're rolling with your calls at 1-800-PRAGER-776. Follow me on Twitter @MarkDavis. All things Dennis related at DennisPrager.com and PragerU, where they teach what isn't taught. And we're learning a lot of things about each other today and all kinds of things going on topically. About to hop back to your calls. I'm just going to share a little bit of what the news is going to be as you finally get home from whatever you're doing and start to settle in for an evening of news consumption, uh, you will hear about Attorney General Merrick Garland stonewalling over a potential conflict of interest involving his son-in-law and some curricula that are involved in the foisting of critical race theory. Ideology is one thing, um, but an ethics issue is another. And Congressman Mike Johnson, Republican of Louisiana, grilled him, deservedly so, on the notion of whether a family member should be so tightly woven into a potential financial benefit for foisting the kind of curricula that parents are fighting back against. And the thing that I think it's incumbent on all of us to, to do— we shouldn't have to, but we do, so you do it— and that is, if you are against critical race theory, theory and run across someone who thinks that must mean you don't want slavery to be taught, or that must mean you oppose kids learning about the evils of Jim Crow, or whatever angle one wishes to take on historically accurately sharing the story of the journey of American Enlightenment. I mean, we did indeed used to have slavery. We did indeed bar women from voting. We did indeed have poll taxes and all kinds of racist laws under the Jim Crow umbrella. And though those did exist, they did. We got rid of them. Are we perfect now? Are we a perfect society free of all racism? Of course not. There's a, there's an ugly human nature underbelly that where you will find racism in some people. And the problem with critical race theory is it finds it everywhere. It teaches kids. This is child abuse to teach a Black kid. It's a kid who's 9 or something. And Condi Rice said this so well. They let her on The View for some mysterious reason where— oh, by the way, I'm supposed to be shocked that Meghan McCain was brutally vilified by Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg. Oh, shocker. How do you not know walking into that coven what, uh, what, what's going to be coming your way? But anyway, Condoleezza Rice sat down on The View and in about a minute of glorious exposition told the gathered people in the audience there that she knows what racism is like, that she grew up in, you know, 1950s Alabama. She didn't get to go to an integrated, uh, like movie theater until the family moved to Denver. She said that her parents told her that these problems, that they never expected necessarily, never expected her, young Condoleezza Rice, never necessarily expected her to even grow up in an America that did not have poisonous racism woven through its policies, discrimination as part of the life she would have to lead. But they taught her, they said, that's going to be other people's problem and not your problem. Problem. You can rise above it. You can rise above it. And she also said, I don't think we ought to be sitting there, you know, beating on white people, that they need to be guilty for stuff that happened in the past. God bless Condoleezza Rice. And the problem with CRT and the problem with everything that's kind of an offshoot of CRT is that it takes the young kids of color today and it saddles them with historic racism. It doesn't seek to teach them about where we've been, the enlightenment journey we've been on, and the places we still need to go, like maybe some progress we need to make on race and policing. Let's talk about that. When George Floyd laid dead in the streets of Minneapolis, this country was ready to gather together and go, man, that video was terrible. What do we need to do? What kind of better training do we need? Just what do we need to do? The rioting interrupted that process, that healing process, that educational process, that, that journey of enlightenment was forestalled by rioting. Black Lives Matter has done more to hurt race relations in America than any Klansman ever could in 2021 America. And so here we are, and there are those of us looking to steep our educations in curricula that will teach kids to hate America and hate each other, and there are those of us who are trying to stop that. The battle lines are drawn, and it's not just about dry nuts and bolts policy, it's about the raising of our children. So here we are. This is just one of the things we're talking about. There are plenty more. Let's, uh, head in the direction of the phone lines and see what people want to do. Phone number again is 1-800-776-1886. Dennis Prager, 776. We are in just a town that's fun to say, Walla Walla, Washington. Hey, Craig, Mark Davis in for Dennis. How are you? Not after all that, all that buildup. Hey, Craig, you there? Well, I got to say Walla Walla, Washington. Now I get to say Prescott, Arizona. Bill, hey, Mark Davis in for Dennis. Not as much fun, but a fine town. How are you doing, sir?
Pretty good, thank you. I wanted to tell you, I was raised by a family that were Democrats, and I'm 87 years old and never thought anything about it. They said if I was going to vote, I'd vote Democrat. Well, I had 3 older brothers— I've got 2 brothers and brother-in-law— were all World War II and D-Day. And at a family gathering, and it was around 1970, they started talking negative about the Democrats, and I was shocked. Shocked. And I— so I started paying attention, and I had to catch a flight. I'm reading the newspaper, and, uh, it was— in fact, it was, I guess it was '79. That's, that's what— and you got to forgive me, my memory don't work.
That's okay.
But I think Carter was president, and the newspaper was touting Carter, and he had just left our people over there in prison with Iran in the embassy for, for over 400 days. And I'm thinking to myself, he's a Democrat and they're touting this guy, what a great job. And at that time I said, well, there's no way in hell I'm going to be voting Democrat again. So I became an independent. And what I was really not a Republican either. Well, what I want to get at is, is Trump. When Trump ran for president, he was the last guy in the world that I thought I'd want as president. The only reason I voted for him was because I'd have to vote for Hillary if I didn't.
You didn't want Hillary. Exactly right.
Exactly. But Trump has done more for this country in his presidency than all the previous presidents that I've been under in my life. Like I said, I'm 87.
That's, that's, that's a good amount of lifetime. Yeah.
So what, what, what's the thing that—
one thing or two? What, what thing or two won you over the most? What, what surprised you? What did you get that you didn't think you were going to get from the Trump years?
I have to say the economy, but also his Christian beliefs. And by no means did Trump live, or I live, a Christian life. I try to now, but that's After you go through everything you go through, you realize where the right way to play.
I hear you there.
What's your faith?
Yes, sir.
But, uh, but Trump did more in the Christian thing, uh, the way he was just so out in the open about— well, Trump was out in the open about everything. That was his problem.
Exactly right. He's not subtle about anything. Bill, that was a perfect answer, and I thank you so much. And if anybody's driving around going, What? Trump? And in fact, a lot of people remain mystified about why Trump is so popular in evangelical circles, because he has not exactly led, you know, a life of piety, a life of evangelical zeal, a life of biblical behavior. Are you kidding me, right? So let me explain this to you. When given the opportunity to vote for a lot of people in 2016, that's probably an opportunity we'll have again in 2020, Republicans will give you a whole lot of guys who— I mean, we had Ted Cruz, we had all kinds of people, you know, we've had Pat Robertson run historically. We've had people who have just all kinds of solid Christian conservative credentials who would have been, you know, especially in the case of Cruz or Rubio, who has some of that vibe going for him as well. Mike Huckabee. I mean, please, you gotta love Governor Huck. So there are all kinds of candidates that we've been able to evaluate and weigh and vote for who would have been wonderful fellow soldiers to walk with, march with, to fight for what we believe in as Christian conservatives. You know what Trump was? He was an M1 Abrams tank blasting through the thing that conservative Christians needed most, and that was to beat down the political correctness and religious intolerance that threatens everything we believe in. That's why, as a Christian conservative, loved those Trump years. Loved them. Mark Davison for Dennis. Stick around, 1-800-PRAGER-776. More of you are next.
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I do.
I was under constant attack. You're not really black because you're not doing what we expect black people to do. This is the wrong black guy, he has to be destroyed.
So you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court?
I'd rather die than withdraw from the process.
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Love Andy. That's going to be a good one. Of course, they're all It's all good at PragerU. Find me a video that's not great on there. Come on, that's what they do. They teach what isn't taught. All righty, uh, Mark Davis in for Dennis. Dennis returns tomorrow to wrap up your week. 1-800-PRAGER-776. We are headed back to your calls here in a second. Let me make sure before I'm done here today— I know we got, uh, you know, 30-some minutes of show left, but I just want to make sure that I impress on you the importance of helping out our friends at Alliance Defending Freedom, ADF. Go to DennisPrager.com .com, click the ADF banner, and what you have there is people who will rush into courtrooms for free and help people whose constitutional rights are being trampled. And folks are showing up at local school board meetings voicing their concerns, and Merrick Garland and his Department of Justice, sparking outrage from parents, are ready to treat these parents as domestic terrorists. So you know the Alliance Defending Freedom will not stand for parents' free speech rights being abused. And here's ADF senior counsel John Bursch saying that he hadn't seen anything like this ever. Nothing like this attack on parents has ever happened before in America.
Worse than anything that we've seen in a long time.
And you can be sure that if they do come forward and they persecute and prosecute parents who are simply doing their job to make sure that their kids are going to be well taken care of at school and not influenced by ideology which is going to harm them, then and we're going to be there to defend those parents. They will be there to defend you. They will be there to defend parents. And, uh, that costs money. Where does that come from?
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How are you? Hey, it's a pleasure. You know, I wish people would examine 60 years of abysmally failed Democratic policies with the same zeal that they examined Trump's underwear drawer.
Me too.
You know, you had a very articulate young man in the first hour and talking about CRT, and I would submit to my Black friends and Black brothers and sisters that the main problem in those communities is poverty, and bad education. And for 60 years, the Democrats have been in charge of that. They run city hall, they run the schools, they run the police department, they run, uh, just about everything. The common denominator is not racism, it's failed policies. And Trump was well on his way to reversing those policies. He addressed education with historically the largest increase in funding to Black colleges that's ever been done by anybody, including Obama. And that scared the hell out of Democrats and rhinos.
Sure, of all colors. Craig, thank you. You're exactly right. Black people are benefited by stronger borders. Black people are benefited by a strong pro-business economy. Black people are benefited by our Constitution being obeyed. Funny thing, so are white people. So are Hispanics. So are Asians. So are Eskimos. So, and I think one of my favorite lines One of my favorite lines of the Trump campaign was he said to Black America, what do you got to lose? You know, these people aren't helping you. These people are keeping you dependent. These people are keeping you on the welfare plantation. I want better for you. What do you have to lose? Oh gracious. All right, 1-800-PRAGER-776, 1-800-PRAGER-776. We're in Los Angeles. Sylvia, Mark Davidson for Dennis. How are you?
Oh, hi, Mark. Well, I just wanna— you mentioned George Floyd, the criminal that scared a woman, and she called 911 on him because he was acting weird after passing a fake $20 bill and was hanging out outside. I really blame her, you know, for calling 911. Here come the cops all stressed out, and this guy, 6'7", big muscles, um, the cop was not on his neck was on the shoulder.
That's not accurate. Sylvia, I'm not, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, Sylvia, Sylvia, Sylvia, I'm not going to relitigate the George Floyd death. It's simply not good.
Like, oh, the awful video that caused the riots. They were just ready to do that to you guys. I feel bad for the USA. That's going the way of Argentina in the '20s. You know, you really have to fight this scam.
And I like, I But I'll tell you what, if you want to identify— okay, we're done. If you want to identify radicalized parts of America that were— they would have been— somebody would have been, we're just looking for something to riot over. Yeah, I'll probably join you on that. But contorting yourself to justify the George Floyd death is not a good look. I will tell you, and if I've started to phrase it this way. Uh, and in fact, you know, I touched on this a few minutes ago. Look what we missed out on. Look what the rioting diverted us from. You know what we could have had by now? We could have had better policies, better training, and we should anyway. I'm not saying that rioting makes an excuse for, well, we can't, can't make any improvements on policy because we got all these riots going on, but we could have had a dialogue we could have had people— I think folks would have viewed the period following George Floyd's death as an opportunity where people of every race and every political stripe kind of had a similar thought. God forbid, right? And that similar thought might have been, okay, and whether Derek Chauvin gets charged with second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree second-degree manslaughter. Those were the things he was convicted for. I mean, you can slice and dice all that judicially and legally all you want, but something happened there that didn't need to happen. And, and I think there would have been a really helpful moment as maybe some Black folks would have said, wow, even white folks recognized that was not a good day of police And maybe some principled Democrats would have said, hey, here's some Republicans who seem willing to, like, admit— as if we don't— that there are occasional problems that arise in terms of training and escalation and stuff like that. It could have been. And by the way, that can still happen. But you know what? The aftermath of the riots, the balkanization of of everybody and the ruin of the opportunity for constructive discourse, because then everybody, everything got weaponized. You know, as I've said, George Floyd's ghost is now renaming sports teams, is inflicting the curriculum of various schools. And all I mean by that usage is that that aftermath has been weaponized by people who are not interested in dialogue. Not interested in progress, not interested in goodwill. And that has not been helpful. All righty, rather than give somebody 30 seconds, let's hit this bottom of the hour pause and come back and talk to some more of you about a wide variety of— obviously a wide variety of things. 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. Follow me on Twitter @MarkDavis. All things Dennis Prager related at DennisPrager.com. Dennis is back tomorrow. I'm Mark Davis here from 660 AM The Answer in Dallas-Fort Worth, and we've got a home stretch half hour to go. I know what I'm bringing to the table. Let's see what you've got at 1-800-PRAGER-776. Grab a line and we'll be right with you.
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And so what they want you to believe is that there is a sword hanging by a thread above your existence. So this Sword of Damocles was a parable, and it became a motif in medieval literature. And basically, this is the quote from Cicero, who was a one-year Roman consul who was phenomenal. He's actually killed right near the time of Julius Caesar's death. And Julius Caesar had this beautiful quote where he said, "The more laws, the less justice." The Founding Fathers loved Cicero. But Cicero wrote about the tale of Damocles and represented the idea that those in power always labor under the specter of anxiety and death and that quote, there can be no happiness for the one who is under constant apprehensions. And so every man, woman, and child who lives under a nuclear sword of Damocles hanging by the slenderest of threads capable of being cut at any moment by accident or miscalculation or madness. That was a speech that John F. Kennedy gave to the United Nations back in 1961. 1961, talking about nuclear weapons. But essentially, if you get the visual, there's like the sword hanging from the ceiling by a thread, and they want every parent who shows up at the school board meeting to be afraid that at any moment that sword could drop from the ceiling and drop on you and metaphorically, or possibly end your life by putting you in prison. Let me read this again. That no man can be free under the labor or the anxiety of constant apprehension. Or penalty. They want people to have nervous glances of the blade dangling above them.
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It occurs that today when we're talking, 22 of the 25 ranked colleges in national football by the AP are in red states— Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State. And some of those 25 that are in purple states like Penn State are in the red part of the purple state. Only Oregon and San Diego State are in blue states. Do you have a theory?
I do.
As to why college football succeeds in red states far beyond the way it succeeds in blue states today?
Well, I think it represents this. It doesn't. And it's unlike pro football, which has become performance woke art. I think a lot of people in these places incorporate going out to a Saturday football game as in the same sense as Fourth of July or standing for the national the national anthem or singing God Bless America. It's a festive public ritual for red state America and in a way that pro sports used to be. But now the NBA or the NFL, even Major League Baseball, has forfeited that. It's become a Hollywood-centric or celebrity-centric or New York-centric sport. So I think they're— and actually their popularity is increasing as a result that people innately like sports, but they're shifting from pro sports, I think, to what you talk about.
Well, I also want to add to your assessment, when you think about this, the red states are least amenable to woke college politics.
You're generally correct, because especially the Board of Regents are the overseers. They come from business, they come from all walks of life, and they just don't put up with it.
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We're all about what you think. Dennis is back tomorrow, Mark Davis filling in from 660 AM The Answer Dallas-Fort Worth today. Let's dive back and see what you guys have on your collective and individual minds. We're in the great, uh, out of the great town of the Arch, St. Louis. Tim, hey, Mark Davidson for Dennis Prager. How are you? Happy Thursday.
Hey, thank you for taking my call. I just— first, I got to ask you something. This— I've been calling talk shows. I'm 60 years old. I've been calling talk shows for over 20 years, but it seems now— are you guys being monitored on what you're allowed to say on air?
As far as like, what makes you think that?
As far as like the end, uh, what they The protest at the Capitol on January 6th.
What about it?
Well, I mean, the elections there, I believe they're using COVID. I believe they're using COVID so that they could have mail-in ballots to fix the next— of course, to fix the election in the next run here.
For someone who is as steeped in talk radio as you purport to be, But this conversation comes up all the time. So what, what point do you think has not been sufficiently made? I mean, I've kind of made this one myself even today, that based on the altar of COVID panic, there are all kinds of rules shelved, norms disposed of, laws broken, so that who knows how many votes were accepted that should not have been. So the notion that that, the notion that that is, the notion that that has not been discussed It has, and I believe enough for today. We're in Los Angeles. Susan, hi, Mark Davis in for Dennis. How you doing? Hi, it's Mark in for Dennis. How you doing?
Hi, I'm surprised to be online. I'm a big follower. I was just calling to see how Mr. Prager is doing. That's all.
He's doing great. He's doing superbly. And listen, I should probably I probably say this like once an hour, uh, because Dennis just went through his COVID course and now he's gone. Is he okay? He is so okay that he's on the road. He's doing something travel-related today, so he is fantastic, and he's got the monoclonal antibodies coursing through his veins and stronger than ever, tanned, rested, and ready to return tomorrow and finish up the week. We are in Minneapolis. Dave, Mark Davison for Dennis, how are you?
Yeah, pretty good. How are you?
Hi, great.
I just have a couple of questions. I mean, you know, I've heard two callers that call in. I've listened to the show for years and, and I, you know, I love Dennis and I've met him and I like you as well. And, you know, people brought up two things like the COVID vaccine, right? George Floyd. And you said we're done. And you basically hung up on them.
It's when I'll tell you, was when you can hit a brick wall. If a woman wants to sit here and fuss about what some woman reacted to when George Floyd was trying to pass a fake $20, that's just— it's useless. It gets us precisely nowhere. So when we're spinning wheels that just don't need to be spun anymore, I'm gonna move on. Is there anything you'd like to bring up?
Well, I guess that caused, you know, whatever her reaction was, was right. And, uh, You know, and when you just dismiss them like that.
Yeah, because we got a lot of people on the line. Because you know why? It's called— you know what, if I didn't do that, I probably don't get to you because we got 23 minutes of show left. If I sit there and let somebody just fuss and moan for 9 minutes about how, you know, what a terrible person George Floyd was, you and I are not talking today. I chose to move on, and I support that decision. All right, 1-800-PRAGER-776. We are in Bakersfield. David, hey, Mark Davison for Dennis Prager.
How are you?
Hey, hey, do I need to mute my radio? I'm on a, on a bus.
It's a good idea, and brevity will serve you well too. We got about a minute. Go.
Okay, well, the reason I'm calling is I just read a book by Bodie Bockham, and it's entitled Biblical Justice Versus Social Justice.
Ooh, what is its premise?
And it talks about Well, it talks about the difference between biblical justice and race relations versus critical social justice.
Good, good.
It's extremely good, very thorough. Bodie Seitz names all of his sources. He also talks about, I believe it's Beverly D'Angelo and White Fragility, and talks about Ibram, uh, Ibram Kendi, the The anti-racism book guy, yes.
That's a good thesis to bring because the social justice people think, or want very much for all of us to think, that they really are just on the right side of morality in virtually every way. Listen, being against racism is of course a good thing to do. You know, fighting for equal rights for certain communities is certainly a good thing to do. But the extremism, the seeing everything through the lens of racial grievance, new No, no, no, no, no, no, that's not something that, uh, that, that has a strong moral component. All right, I think you got to scoot here, correct, guys? Mark Davis in for Dennis, and we'll be back in just a moment.
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Why do you think our politicians are not on the sidewalk right now talking to you? Don't have no respect. The old wall randomly turns into a guardrail followed by miles of open border.
That journey is extremely dangerous.
The 7-year-old girl died in the desert from the country of India. A great pillar of the community was killed by a man who had been deported at least twice.
This little urn contains the ashes of my son, his dreams cut short forever.
We're so worried about other countries' problems, we don't even focus on our own.
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There's about 57 Muslim states states in the world, there's one Jewish state.
The massive ingathering of Jews in the last 150 years back to the land is absolutely unprecedented. They say that there's no greater sign of redemption coming than the Jewish people returning to the hills of Judea.
As a Christian, I've always supported Israel's claim to the Holy Land.
To me, the Palestinians were just getting in the way of God's plan.
300,000 Palestinians are unemployed.
In spite of all the years of conflict, there's hope here if you know where to look for it.
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Man, I miss my father, and I want him to be here with me, but he's not. We all had something in common. A lot of us were miserable. We had no fathers in our lives. This is how I began the life of crime.
I desired to have a father who would tell me that what I did was wrong.
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I grew up po', which is even worse than being poor. We would have sandwiches with no meat. My American dream entailed working hard and making $20,000 a year, but I surpassed that goal and became a corporate CEO. We'll all be able to say, free at last, free at last.
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Judge Thomas, you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
I was under constant attack. You're not really black because you're not doing what we we expect black people to do. This is the wrong black guy. He has to be destroyed.
So you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court?
I'd rather die than withdraw from the process.
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The Democratic Party somehow has convinced black people that they're the good guys, never mind the skanky history of the Democratic Party. That was a party of slavery. They're racist, racist, racist.
Racist.
Everything's racist.
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That's what they do. PragerU, PragerU, do check it out. Got something else for you to check out too. This past year and a half has been pretty tough for a lot of Americans. Lockdowns, school closings, now the rising cost of, uh, everything. It's been an especially hard time for the 30 million American small business owners and the 60 million people that they employ. Now small business faces new burdens, new challenges, and there are all these calls to change labor laws to favor union bosses and increase regulation. It's not just bad policy. What DC lawmakers are guilty of is bad faith. There's one group working hard to fight this war on small business, the great people at Job Creators Network, the JCN, baby. They are great. They were founded to fight for small businesses and defend free enterprise. They're looking for a few good men and women to build an army of small business advocates across this great land. Those advocacy programs will train you to be a voice for positive change in your community, your state, and this entire nation. It'll be a great way to network with like-minded business owners. To find out how to join JCN's growing army of small business owners, go to jobcreatorsnetwork.com. Jobcreatorsnetwork.com. Alrighty, we are in Chicago. John, Mark Davis, welcome. How are you?
I'm good, sir. Thank you for taking my call.
My pleasure.
You had a call earlier in the show. I didn't hear the beginning of the call, but you were sort of arguing with someone who didn't seem to like Donald Trump very much, but you were pressing them to identify specific policies of President Trump's that he objected to. Do you recall that?
I do, because the gentleman was sort of from that sliver of supposed Republicanism or conservatism that didn't like Trump. Question specifically to him was, as a conservative, what are the parts of what are the Trump policy agenda that I should disagree with as a conservative?
Right, right. Okay, well, my, my, I, I am, I've never been a supporter of Donald Trump, so I don't really fall into the same category as that caller, but I thought to myself about specific policies of President that I took issue with, and one of the, the primary one that came to mind that I wanted to mention to you regarded research using cell lines derived from fetal tissue. Both the AstraZeneca and the Moderna vaccine were derived using such cells, as was Regeneron.
Why do you suppose— I have a question for you, because I get this a lot, and I'm intrigued by everybody's view on this, and I'm the most pro-life person you'll talk to today. Why, um, why has the Catholic Church found a way, uh, why is there no church that's revolving around this? Not one.
I don't know the answer to— I don't know. I do.
I, I think I do. And in a lot of cases, in a lot of cases I think people are just desperate to find a way to bag on the vaccine. That's my theory.
Well, can I ask you my question?
Of course.
Okay, my question is this, um, so both Remdesivir and Regeneron were also created using this, um, kind of medical research. Dennis Prager and Donald Trump both received this sort of treatment derived from these fetal cells. Um, well, careful with—
careful, careful with derived from. Careful with— because a lot— there's— there are people walking around thinking that there's like fetal tissue in the shot. That is the level of scientific illiteracy that we've been dealing with a lot. So I, I kind of— so do me a favor, really, because my— okay, great. So give me— hone this down. What is your bottom line point and/or question. Go.
Yeah, okay, I think you're right. There's a lot of ignorance about it, and people believe exactly what you said. I think primarily people on the right. But I would— my point is this: Donald Trump's policy as president that I objected to was restricting that sort of research, which ultimately probably saved both his life and Dennis Prager's life.
I think that's bad policy. Now, this is interesting. Okay, now, okay, very, very thoughtful point. The, the, the research that led to the ability to develop some of the modern vaccines depends on things that were learned apparently from like literally like a couple of abortions in the Netherlands in the '70s, right? Can't approve of that as a pro-lifer, can't approve of that. But the question— but I mean of the fact that those abortions took place— question is, okay, uh, if there's something we can learn and some lives we can save as a result of existing knowledge based on that, should we ignore it or do it? It, and you can count me among those who would say do it. Now, it seems like you're asking a different question, that is, and that is, should we be, uh, cavalier about abort— should we have like some abortions take place now so that we can learn stuff for medical research? As a pro-lifer, I'm going to say no to that every time.
Okay, respectfully, I want to correct you on something.
Uh, try.
It's not just, it's not just knowledge from those cell lines that was used to develop these, these treatments. It is actual cells that were used in the research, not just knowledge from the '70s, the actual cell lines derived from fetal tissue.
No, but no further, but no further abortion was, was performed in any event to, to, to bring them about. Now, but I don't want to misstate state where you're going. Are you— I'm not— I don't want to misstate where you're going. Let's come to the modern day. Are you asking people to, uh, be, you know, somewhat tolerant of abortion because of medical benefit, some medical benefit that might be derived from it moving forward? Yes or no?
No, no, sir. I totally support that kind of research. I'm asking—
no, no, no, no, no, no.
For the government? Hello?
Well, I guess the policy that I would look for— I would ban the forwarding of any justification of abortion, even for life-saving medical research. Yes, I would. That is the pro-life stance.
Okay, but you don't think there's something dissonant about the administration banning that sort of research, and then the president who banned it in the first place benefiting from it.
Because it's not apples and apples. He's not— that's what they're looking to address moving forward is not necessarily the exact same thing that he was able to benefit from decades past. 1-800-PRAGER-776. Follow me on Twitter @MarkDavis. Things Dennis-related at DennisPrager.com. And let's see. We've got— man, how time does fly. So let me get this last break in, and then we'll come back and take a— maybe, maybe one more. We'll see what's going on. It is always a joy, always a pleasure. Agree, disagree, I appreciate all y'all. Dennis will be back tomorrow, and we'll have a couple of culminating thoughts, and maybe we'll, you know, shoehorn somebody in here in the final segment, because that final segment, as you've come to know, is pretty brief. We'll see what we can achieve in it coming up.
Man, I miss my father, and I want him to be here with me, but he's not.
We all had something in common. A lot of us were miserable. We had, uh, no fathers in our lives. This is how I began the life of crime.
I desired to have a father who, who would tell me that what I did was wrong.
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I grew up po', which is even worse than being poor. We would have sandwiches with no meat. My American dream entailed working hard and making $20,000 a year, but I surpassed that goal and became a corporate CEO. We'll all be able to say, free at last! Free at last!
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Judge Thomas, you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God.
I do.
I was under constant attack. You're not really black because you're not doing what we expect black people to do. This is the wrong black guy. He has to be destroyed.
So you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court?
I'd rather die than withdraw from the process.
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The Democratic Party somehow has convinced black people that they're the good guys. Never mind the skanky history of the Democratic Party. That was a party of slavery. They're racist, racist, racist.
Everything's racist.
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This is why we're fighting for the soul of America. You should be able to share ideas without fear of being fired from your job or shouted down.
You are not to be heard. This is one of the few things we have no precedent for in the United States.
You have the right to remain silent.
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Well, this is where it has all led to this final segment. What will we do with it? I'm inclined to to, uh, we've had just a bunch of calls, which is kind of what a talk show likes to have. So let me see what we can do here in, uh, in just these last couple of moments here. We are in Sarasota, Florida. Al, hey, Mark Davison for Dennis. How are you?
I'm very, very well, thank you.
Thank you. My call, my pleasure.
Um, I want to talk about, uh, basically You people make fun of what we call the high-class problem of supply chain disruption.
Yep.
And just turn it around and call it part of the Biden wealth blessing.
Yeah, the BWB, the Biden— it is— for those that don't know, Al's referring to the, the derision and the out-of-touch usual Jen Psaki moments where people are mocked for having the expectation that things will actually be available when they order them.
Yeah, well, what I'm talking about is corporate profits at an all-time high, household net worth and wealth at an all-time high, and a strong consumer. Third quarter conference calls I listened to from JPMorgan, Walmart, Target, and a number of companies that interact with the public say that the consumer consumer is very strong, healthy balance sheet, good savings rate, and ready and willing to consume.
I got a question. I might have misunderstood. Are you buying into the, to the Jen Psaki mockery of people who are noticing that the shelves are— oh my gosh, wow, okay. So you would look at the economy right now and say this is great and say that things are going great? All these people whining about not being able to get stuff, about the, the boats backed up at the, the ports of California. We're just complaining, we're just whining. It's first world, uh, we're spoiled.
We just need the rapid growth, right? Right, right. Rapid growth.
Well, with this kind of rapid growth, we're— God help us from this kind of rapid growth. Oh dude, I wish I had time. Um, I'll tell you what I do have time for, and, and that is, as we began, about a minute or so As we started talking about the, the parents pushing back against critical race theory and other things, a lot of people said, is that specifically being taught? Is that actual, you know, language being used? There, there are other words that you might find. There are other things you might— achievement gap, affinity group, anti-racism, colorblindness, CRT, of course, culturally responsive teaching. Equity, implicit bias, meritocracy, microaggression, restorative justice, white fragility, white supremacy, which they find under every rock. There are all kinds of terms that can be used, but it all comes under that umbrella of CRT, which is societal poison. Keep up the fight. Thank you, Dennis Prager. Thank you very much to Sean and Will and Suzette for screening the calls. Always a joy to be here. Follow me on Twitter @MarkDavis. I'll see you next time they ask, and Dennis Prager is back tomorrow. Have a great rest of your week. I'm Mark Davis. God bless. Have a wonderful day.
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