"Use Your Mind To HEAL THE BODY & Boost Your IMMUNE SYSTEM!" | Joe Dispenza & Mark Hyman

We've seen blind people, seen deaf people hearing not once, not twice. We've seen people with strokes for 10 years, lift their arms up again. We've seen people step out of wheelchairs. The body literally recalibrates to a new mind.

So let's start by talking about how you first became sort of interested in this whole idea of spontaneous remissions, which which for those who don't know what it is, means that you have some incurable disease and it goes away. And it's not because you got a medical treatment, it's because something happened that shifted the course of the disease that was most likely coming from your own consciousness. So talk about how you got into that and why you started to study it.

Well, I think, first of all, thank you again. I think for the most part, I've always been a curious person and I'm always interested in human potential. And at one point, we all, read really cool information about mystics and saints and avatars. And for me, that's all good philosophy until you have your own moment. And I was in a triathlon, and I got run over by a truck, and I broke six vertebrae in my spine. And I had to make a decision at that time in my life because the diagnosis wasn't very good and neither was the prognosis. decide if I was going to spend the rest of my life on addictive medications and with surgical rods in my spine or if I was going to see if the mind could actually heal the body. So that was my wake-up call in 1986. So I was at the point where I just had to make a decision to see if it was actually the truth. If all of this that I learned was the truth, let's apply it. So I was lucky enough to have a dramatic change in my own personal health. And then I thought, God, if it worked on me, has it worked on other people? So I started looking into people that had been treating conventionally or non-conventionally and with a certain diagnosis, and their condition was staying the same, getting worse, and all of a sudden it got better. And I just wanted to look at what the cause was that was producing that effect. And so I interviewed hundreds and hundreds of people that had gone through the process. And one of the most fundamental elements that they all had in common, where there were a lot of things that had to do with their mind. And some people had specific diets and specific regimes, some people used certain conventional and non-conventional protocols, but the commonality primarily was about how the mind was really influencing the body. And they began to really take a closer look at how they were thinking on a daily basis, how they were acting, on a regular basis and looking at how they feel on a moment to moment basis and how you think and how you act and how you feel is your personality. Your personality has a very direct relationship with your personal reality, which means if you want to change your personal reality, if you want to change something about your life, you got to change. The process of change then becomes the fundamental process of going from some person that's familiar and known to you and stepping out and beginning to make different choices and begin thinking differently and begin to behave differently and speak differently and feel differently. And if you start thinking, acting and feeling differently, our research shows without a doubt you're going to have dramatic changes in your biology. And if you do it enough times, you're going to become someone else. And the disease then all of a sudden exists in the old personality and not in the new personality. And you ask the person, Where's the cancer? Where's the rheumatoid arthritis? Where's the immune-mediated condition? It's in the old person. I'm not that person anymore. and so when we started seeing these changes taking place in people that had their own personal remissions, I thought, well, is that teachable? And what is the science behind teaching it? Can we teach people how to begin to change their thoughts? And is there neuroscience to support it? And there's tons. And if you begin to behave differently, can you create new pathways that begin to become habituated over time? And if you stop feeling suffering and you stop feeling pain, you stop feeling and guilt, and you start feeling elevated emotions like joy or inspiration or gratitude, not just in a momentary state like positive thinking, but to be able to self-regulate and maintain that, we could teach that. Could we produce the same effects in people? So, I think this is a time in history, Mark, where it's not enough to know, it's a time in history to know how. And so all that philosophy is all great dinner conversation, but when you're given a diagnosis, Now you got to step out of the bleachers and you got to get on the playing field and you got to start making different choices. And the hardest part about change is not making the same choice as you did the day before. And the moment you decide to make a different choice, whether you like it or not, you're going to feel uncomfortable. It's going to feel unfamiliar. You're not going to be able to predict what's going to happen. There's going to be some uncertainty because you're leaving the known familiar self. And so how does the person become.

The person they are?

And why do they keep their health condition the same? And well, most people, your brain is a record of the past. It's an artifact of everything you've learned and experienced to this moment. So most people wake up in the morning, if you think that your thoughts have something to do with your destiny, they start thinking about their problems. And those problems are just memories that are etched in their brain that are connected to certain people and objects and certain things at certain times and places. And the moment they start thinking about their problems, they're thinking in the past. Now, because every one of those problems has an emotion associated with them. The moment they start feeling unhappy or feeling sad, now they're bodies in the past because thoughts are the language of the brain and feelings are the language of the body and how we think and how we feel creates our state of being though. The problem is that the person thinks of the problem, feels the emotion and that is a thought and feeling. That's an image and an emotion. It's a stimulus and response and that starts the conditioning process to get the body emotionally conditioned into the pattern. Now here's the crazy part about it. The familiar past emotionally is producing dramatic effects on the body because the body is so objective that it does not know the difference between the real life experience that's creating that emotion and the emotion that person is fabricating by thought or memory alone. The body's believing it's living in the same past experience seven days a week, 365 days a year. And the problem with that is that the environment signals the gene. that's epigenetics and the end product of an experience and the environment is an emotion. So the person is keeping the same gene regulated because the body's believing it's living in the same environmental condition. So getting that person to step outside of that familiar known territory into the unknown, where there is uncertainty and have them be comfortable there and begin to think about how they are going to think. And how you tell people to give.

Up their identity of who they are, what defines them, their past, their stories, their beliefs, or, I mean, you're coming after it, you're going for juggler in our old patterns and our old ways of being that keep us not well and keep us unhappy and sick.

It turns out that's 95% of who we are. So, if we don't address those unconscious programs, you can, and you're an integrative physician, you understand this, you could have the healthiest ketogenic, vegan, intermittent fasting enzymes, food combining, and if your living in fear, if you're living in pain, the cell is not in a state to actually absorb anything. It's in a state of emergency. In an emergency, there's no growth and repair. So, can you tell me more about that?

I've seen patients like that who do everything perfectly and they're still sick. And I've seen people who don't give a crap about their health but they have the best attitude and they're fine.

Because the body's believing it's in a different environment and growth and repair is what does it. So then we said, okay, let's see. if we can demystify the process. So the concept, the word meditation literally means to become familiar with. If you look at the symbolism of it and you look it up, it's familiarization. So you sit down and you say, okay, I don't want to be unhappy. I don't want to be angry. I don't want to talk trash about people. I don't want to complain. I want to blame. I don't want to make excuses. I don't want to feel lack. I don't want to have an attitude that's telling me I can, it's too hard, that's the old identity, right? So the moment you start becoming conscious of those unconscious thoughts, the moment you become aware of your automatic habits and behaviors, the moment you can notice that this is actually guilt that you're feeling or sadness or pain, the moment you can become conscious and familiar with those states of mind and body, if you keep becoming familiar with it, if you keep becoming conscious of it, you won't go unconscious. So sitting in a meditation to know thyself, most people all of a sudden here comes the barrage of thoughts, here comes the propensities and habits, and here comes the emotions. The body's saying, you, normally complain at this time. What are you doing sitting with your eyes closed? Let's think of a reason why you can complain and the body starts influencing the mind. So if you break it down, if you break it down for a person to understand how many times Do we have to forget until we start remembering and keep remembering and stop forgetting? That's the process of change. So then you put a person in a meditation and they hear that voice, they hear that chatter, they want to get up and go to the bathroom, they want to check their cell phone, they want to feel angry. And instead of getting up and saying, I can't meditate, see they're coming to the end of the known. So they want to go back to what's known, right? If you teach the person what to do and you show them that on the other side of that is freedom, on the other side of that is joy, you've got to become so conscious and it takes a lot of awareness, it takes a lot of energy to sit with yourself long enough to disentangle from those programs. Now, we now know that it's a formula, that if you follow a formula, you will actually start pruning circuitry. You'll stop the conditioning process and move the body out of the past and it starts liberating energy. that's energy to heal with, that's energy to create a new life, that's energy to digest again. The body's no longer living in survival or living in emergency. The majority of people's emotions then tend to be derived from the hormones of stress. So that we started realizing that the arousal of the stress hormones, the rush of the chemistry, is actually tapping the body's resources and the stronger the emotions we feel, towards any problem or person in our life, the more we pay attention to them. And if where you place your attention is where you place your energy, then you're giving your power away to that person or problem. And if a person can learn to sit in the fire and say, it's not my boss, it's not my ex, it's not my job, it's not the pandemic, it's me. That this emotion isn't serving me because this emotion is the exact emotion that's pushing the genetic buttons that's creating disease. Okay. if I can keep practicing lowering the volume to that emotion, I'll keep taking my attention off that person or problem. And in a sense, the body starts moving back where into the present moment. It starts getting relaxed in the unknown. So we started teaching people the process and by a person overcoming their past, not the trauma, just the emotion. They just have to work on breaking that conditioning process because if you keep doing it over and over again, a habit is when the body becomes the mind. Now the servant, now the body's influencing the mind. So we teach a person then how to break that conditioning process. The body starts moving into the present moment. It's no longer in the same environmental condition and then all of a sudden we start to see some pretty dramatic changes in people's health.

Yeah, it's pretty remarkable what you're talking about is helping people understand that the voice in their head is not them.

It's a program.

Who is it that's actually aware that you have a voice in your head?

That's the person we're after.

They call that witness consciousness, you know, or non-judgmental awareness or whatever they call it.

Mindfulness.

Mindfulness.

Yes.

And, you know, honestly, Joe, like, It's scary in there. Like, I like your lower self has literally hijacked the road trip. And for me, I'm constantly in relationship to my lower self, trying to see what it's saying, trying to ship the dialogue and flip it so that I'm not constantly repeating these same negative thought patterns that are causing me unhappiness or suffering or disease or pain or whatever it is. And, you know, I've been working this for a long time, and I don't find it easy. I find it challenging. It's like, it's a four in the morning, my mind just kicks up about, you know, my ex-wife or like, you know, like, and I'm like, I'm like pretty chill most of the time. I'm like, God, it's just, it's so deep in this wiring and programming. And, and your work really helps people with a methodology to, to deal with that.

Right.

And, and what, what happens in the work that you've done is so tremendous is that not only do you see the changes in people's lives, but you're seeing changes in their biology, which speak to the underlying physiology of joy, happiness, freedom, right? That's a very new thing. You're familiar, I'm sure, with my friend Daniel Goleman and his partner, Davidson, Rich Davidson, who wrote altered traits about studying these Olympic meditators who've been in caves for nine years meditating all the time and their brains look totally different. And you're seeing this not in nine years of being in a cave, but after seven days, right?

Yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, God, if you were to ask me, Mark, a year ago or two years ago, if I would think in my lifetime that I would be seeing what we're seeing in our measurements, I'd probably say, Wow, I probably not, but it's, you know, it's pretty ambitious because sometimes we see such levels of order in our communities brains when they when they apply that formula, that we just found the articles that said that the mathematical probability of this type of coherence happening in the brain is statistically impossible and if it occurred, it would occur as a momentary phenomenon that's random. Our collective groups of people are sustaining these states for extended periods of time. We can see dramatic changes in people's brain circuitry, but not only their circuitry, but this thing called coherence. Coherence is order, it's rhythm. The antithesis is if you're living in stress and you're living in survival, you feel like you can't control something, you feel like you can't predict something, and you have the perception that something's getting worse. The arousal of those stress hormones causes you to shift your attention from one person to another problem, to another thing, to another place. every one of those elements has a neurological network in the brain. The arousal and the brain is saying there's an emergency, try to control everything, try to predict everything, prepare for the worst, and you start firing all these circuits individually. You shift your attention to your boss, to your co-workers or whatever, and you start causing the brain to fire very incoherently. When the brain is incoherent, we're incoherent. When the brain isn't working right, we're not working right. The arousal causes us to narrow our focus on the material world. As our senses become heightened and we focus on everything that's physical and material, and we start over-focusing, that's what stress does. So we thought, what if we taught people to do the opposite? Instead of narrowing their focus on whatever is material or known to them, let's have them open their focus and broaden their focus and put their attention on nothing physical and put it on nothing. On space, on energy. And if we can create what's called a divergent focus, is it possible that the brain would begin to fire more coherently? And all of a sudden we started seeing the front of the brain talk in the back of the brain and synchronizing areas together and what sinks in the brain links in the brain and all of a sudden you see the person starting to feel more whole. You keep doing that, more coherence creates more energy. The waves start standing and they start building on each other and when that happens, There's an arousal that ultimately takes place in the brain, but the arousal is not fear, the arousal is not pain or aggression, and the arousal is not anger. The arousal is ecstasy, the arousal is bliss, the arousal is love.

Sounds pretty good.

And the person who signs up— who do I sign up? The cool part about it is that when that occurs, the stimulation that's being created, and we see these high gamma patterns that are off the scale, The arousal that's taking place is not taking place from anything out there in the environment. It's not taking place from the sports car, the wardrobe, or the movie or the cell phone. It's happening inside the person and all of a sudden that's a new feeling. They've never had that feeling before and they start feeling connected. The side effect of that is even greater levels of order in the brain and all of a sudden the heart gets very turned on, it gets very signaled and the person is moving into an elevated state and that kind of combination of energy between the heart and the brain causes the person to become creative. Not a little creative, but really seeing possibilities. They're conscious of things they were never conscious before and that's a greater level of awareness and that's a greater level of energy. And so people all of a sudden start seeing synchronicities that start taking place in their life because they have a coherent brain and a coherent heart. and you got a Wi-Fi signal and you feel connected to something. You don't feel separate. Stress causes us to feel separation and lack. This feeling makes you feel whole and all of a sudden all the things that you wanted because you were in lack, you no longer want because you feel like you have them. That's the kind of place where you can relax more into the present moment and enjoy the sunset and enjoy the meal and enjoy the conversation and enjoy the connection because you're present. I say that that's a skill. It is really.

And our whole society is geared to make us not present. I mean, the phones that we have are just these distraction animals. I think it's hard for us to come back to ourselves. And I remember, I'm old enough to remember when we didn't have cell phones, we didn't have computers, we didn't have anything except postcards and a landline. And I remember the quality of my experience was quite quite different and the quality of my inner joy was much higher. And, you know, I'm sort of inspired by what you're saying. And I, and it, and I've decided, I decided actually last week that I'm going to go for a month into a cabin somewhere where I'm going to have food delivered, not see another human, and go into a retreat and meditate and be, and have no phone, no computer, no books. I'm not even going to take your books, Joe. I'm going to take a pen and paper so I can write, but that's it. and it'll just be an interesting experiment to see what it feels like to just be with no distraction and to let all that settle and, and begin to get into the space of coherence. Because, you know, I've noticed that for myself, and I'm sure, like everybody else, that, you know, the, the mind is a hard monkey to tame, and, and it takes us down Pathways of beliefs and ideas and things that take us away from a vibrant, full, joyous, happy life. And what's great about your work is it's not just theoretical. And yes, you've got all the science behind it and you're really mapping out the changes that structurally happen in our bodies. But you talk about these four elements of healing your body with your mind and how we can rewire our brain by changing our thoughts. I mean, so it sort of implies that we have the capacity to master our thoughts, which a lot of us don't agree to. But can you take us what those four were.

Well, first of all, I want to respond to that because a lot of people don't know what to do when they have that thought. They have no formula that's scientific and practical that if they can practice enough times, if nerve cells that fire together wire together, the nerve cells that no longer fire together and no longer wire together. And if you stick with it, and we can tell you this, that sooner or later that thought is going to start to have a weakening effect on your mind until ultimately it's no longer going to be there because you no longer paid attention to it, no longer accepted it, no longer believed it, no longer surrendered to it. And most people, when they get to this point, Mark, they think, I'm doing my meditation wrong. And I always tell them, no, no, no, no, no. you're actually doing it right. That's what I want you to see. That's staying in the way between you and your happiness. On the other side of that is a whole new area that you get to wire your brain any way you choose. So then there's an unlearning process before the relearning process. There's a breaking a habit of the old self and a reinvention of a new self. You've got to prune synaptic connections and then you've got to practice sprouting new ones. You've got to un-fire and un-wire. You've got to re-fire and re-wire. You've got to deprogram and reprogram. You've got to lose your mind and create a new one. And you have to unmemorize emotions that keep you connected to the same familiar past and then recondition the body to a new mind and to a new emotion. So then that process, if there's a formula to apply, let's just say, you sitting in your meditation, it means— Because.

It sounds good, right? But how do you get from here to there? I'm sure everybody's thinking, yeah, I'm listening.

But everybody's done it. They've done it. They just haven't made it a habit. And so then, if you're sitting in a meditation and you have something to do and your body starts going, I'm angry, I'm frustrated, and it's my ex-wife, it's my whatever, and you go like this to your body. Okay, okay. Now listen, you settle down and you know exactly what to do and you tame the animal, you tell it to settle, stay, and you relax it back into the present moment. What I want you to know.

Down, sit.

That'S a victory. That's a victory. And then if the body starts going, I got to get up, I got to check my cell phone, I got to go, I got a meeting, I'm busy. And you notice that your body's habituated into the same predictable future and you settle your body back down into the present moment. Now you're executing a will that's greater than those unconscious programs, and that's a victory. And if you keep doing this over and over again, just like training an animal, The body's going to stay, it's going to surrender to a new mind, and when that occurs, there's a liberation of energy and the person relaxes into the present moment. That's the unknown. The familiar past is the known. The predictable future is the known. The only one place left is the sweet spot of that generous present moment. Now let's get the person so familiar with their unconscious thoughts that when it comes they don't respond to them. So aware of their habits and behaviors. so conscious of the emotions that they typically feel on a waking day, they would never go unconscious to that emotion again. And you say to the person, Hey Mark, what thoughts do you want to fire and wire in your brain? And with intention and attention, if we showed you how to do that, nerve cells that fire together, wire together. Just take a little repetition, a little presence, you start installing the hardware. Keep doing it. It's going to become a software program. What does that mean? That's going to be the new voice in your head that says, Mark, you can do it.

If you said, okay, I can teach my inner voice to speak a different language.

Exactly.

You can change.

Exactly. You can change this mind.

But then they want to talk Portuguese, because I think it would be, it's a nice sounding language.

But have you then said?

Very sexy language. I think Portuguese is very sexy.

But if you said then, okay, how am I going to be with my coworkers? How am I going to be with my employees? How am I going to be with my ex-wife? What would greatness look like today? And you sat down and closed your eyes and you rehearsed in your mind how you were going to be in every one of those situations. If you study the research in neuroscience, mental rehearsal installs neurological hardware in your brain to look like you already did it.

I think about my serve before I serve and I do it better.

Of course, because you produce that mind. So if you keep doing that, you install hardware, practice it and rehearse it, it becomes a software program, which means you start behaving that way. Now, here's the challenging part. Can you teach your body emotionally what the future reality that you want to live in feels like before it happens? Now, this is Very difficult if you've been conditioned into believing something in your outer world has to change to make away, take away the emptiness or the lack to make you feel differently. This is saying actually feel the emotion before it happens and don't wait for the experience to occur. Teach your body what the feeling will be before it occurs. If the environment signals the gene and the end product of an experience in the environment is an emotion, you're signaling the gene ahead of the environment and genes make proteins and proteins are responsible for the structure and function of your body and the expression of proteins is the expression of life. So teach the body emotionally to self-regulate to believe it's living in an environment that's flourishing, that's wonderful. Keep practicing it and it'll become familiar to you and the process then creates a new identity and it's not difficult once you understand what you're doing and why you're doing it and the more you combine all those different branches of science and make take it in a simple way to understand. If people understand the what and the why, the how gets easier because you can assign meaning to what you're doing and it becomes instrumental. So get a group of people, a thousand people, 1500 people, 2000 people into a room, teach them that information, whether they're coming for wealth, their health, a relationship, a new career, a mystical experience, get them all together and teach them and measure what can take place in a one-week period of time and I assure you that's more than 75% of the people that go through and go all in and retreat from their lives and remove the same stimulation from their environment and not be in the same conditions and teach them that information and give them numerous opportunities to apply it and numerous opportunities to get beyond themselves. All you need is that first person that stands on the stage and says, Hey, I walked in here with Parkinson's disease. I have no idea what happened. I'm not trembling anymore and boy, that last thing just something clicked for me and the person in the audience was watching the four-minute mile right in front of them and going, wow, that guy looks like he's not a vegan. He doesn't look like he's particularly in shape, but his Parkinson's went away and wow, I mean, if he could do it, I could do it and somebody else changes their belief and now that's a footprint in consciousness. Get enough people doing that, by the end of the week you're going to see things... We've seen blind people seeing, deaf people hearing, not once, not twice, we've seen people with strokes for 10 years, lift their arms up again. We've seen people step out of wheelchairs, people on crutches, drop their crutches. I mean, you see the body literally recalibrates to a new mind and they're not intentionally trying to do anything. They're just becoming somebody else. But the process of overcoming is the process of becoming. And if you teach people that formula and you get just one or two people, doing it, it's just going to become an infection and it's going to, wellness is going to spread just like disease.

That's good. Yeah, yeah, I think health is contagious actually. So, Joe, a lot of people listening are going, yeah, this all makes sense and, and I'm certainly having these thoughts, but taming the mind is hard and, and a lot of us feel things and have really strong emotions and we think that, that they have a existence of their own. But, it's really the thoughts that create emotions, right? It's thoughts that create the feelings. Because we have a belief, we have perspective, we have a narrative, and it can happen in a nanosecond, right? It can happen in a nanosecond, but is that how it works?

Well, as you said at the beginning of the show, there's never a time where your body is an influence in your mind, and there's never a time where your mind is an influence in your body. You have a body in your mind and a mind mapped in your brain. and it's the same. So, to a person then who's become so happy being unhappy, that that familiar feeling in them is something that they enjoy feeling because they don't know who they would be if they didn't feel that feeling. Okay, let's talk about that.

A lot of sick people see that without their illness or their identity and.

Without it, they don't know who they are.

And why?

Why? The suffering, and I'm not saying this is for everybody, that person gets attention from it, gets people to visit, gets whatever they need. But in a sense, they also have relationships where they love to share the same emotions. And if you share the same experiences, you share the same emotions. So, Mark, let's get on the phone and let's complain for the next 30 minutes about how miserable life is. And then I'll try to top you and you try to top me. And we're using each other. to reaffirm some type of conditioning, right? So that becomes the identity.

So.

Then let's just say you decide to stop blaming, stop complaining, stop making excuses, stop feeling sorry for yourself, stop talking trash, stop commiserating. You just say, I'm going to quit that. In the first hour you do really well, but the problem is the body's saying, Hey, Mark, this is what you're.

Complaining about in an hour.

Yeah, you call Joe and you start commiserating. So what does the body say? The body influencing the mind and it starts calling up circuits in the brain that are connected to that emotion that you've been using all along. So then you start thinking about all the reasons you're unhappy. Now that thought leads to a choice. That choice leads to the same behavior. The same behavior creates the same experience and the same experience produces the same feeling and the same emotion and that same emotion starts to influence the very same thought. and now the person returns back to their same biology. The health condition will always be there because it's the environment that looks like it's signaling the genes. But it's the emotion. If the person all of a sudden says, okay, I'm going to do my meditation and you do your meditation at 11 o'clock in the morning, and that's normally when you get on your emails and start judging people, your body's going to say you're out of schedule. So the process of change requires then not only addressing the mind, which is the thought, but also the emotion that's conditioned into the body. And if you break it down for people, they'll be able to distinguish in the process of change, oh my God, like I'm fasting from a breaking addiction. You know, your body's craving, I just gotta suffer a little bit with somebody and it wants to suffer. you got to be able to work with it. And not just to sit there and white knuckle it, to learn how to self-regulate, to learn how to make those changes with your eyes open. That's when it matters the most. You practice meditation with your eyes closed. You take your body out for a test drive during the day with your eyes open and you work on staying conscious.

I mean, right, the purpose of meditation is to get better at meditation, to.

Get better at life, right?

Exactly, exactly, becoming more conscious, exactly. Yeah, and so those four elements that.

You talked about, A little bit. Yes, so it's really simple. So the first thing is that people had this very strong belief that there was some innate intelligence within them that was giving them life. There was some energy, some force of life that made them more vitalistic and less mechanistic. Whether it was spiritual, whatever they wanted to call it, that there was some power within them that they acknowledged that was giving them life. The second thing was they realized it was their own mismanagement of their thoughts and their actions and their emotions that created their health condition. They realized I actually had a strong part in this and they started taking responsibility and really started they decided I got to break the habit of being myself. Now, they really said, if I'm going to live the next part of my life with this health condition, I don't want to live like that person any longer. If I only have six months to live, I don't want to live that way. So they started becoming conscious of their unconscious self and so conscious that they didn't want to go unconscious. And then they started thinking, number three, if I actually had a new lease on life, if I actually could heal, if I actually could live another year, how would I live my life? Now they didn't say I'm going to be the same person. They said, how do I want to think? How do I want to act? How do I want to feel? Exactly how I described, they went into an inward process, not even a meditation, just what do I want to tell myself? Let me repeat it, how do I want to live with my family? How do I want to eat dinner? What emotions do I want to feel? And they started changing their personality. They started reinventing a new self. And then the last thing that they had in common is that they started noticing when they would close their eyes and do this, they lost track of space and time. that they thought was like 15 minutes that went by or 20 minutes that went by. And in actuality, it was an hour and 20 minutes that went by. They had no sense of space and time in their inner process. And I was interested in demystifying the process because I wanted to see if we could teach that process that worked with sick people on other people and it worked.

So, you're taking these ancient spiritual traditions and meditation and spiritual practices and you put a lot of structure and science behind it to help the average Westerner who's not familiar with those practices to actually access it, which is really an extraordinary gift. And, I'd love to sort of have you talk about some of the practical things that people can do, like gratitude. You talk about how there's 1,200 chemicals released in the body from the practice of gratitude.

Yeah.

And, and again, I'd be scared to know how many molecules come out with the practice of stress and complaining. I don't want to know that.

I don't want to know that.

I want you to talk about the gratitude, the biology of gratitude. Yeah.

So, I studied this extensively because we actually did an experiment. We took a group of people that came to our event and we did all kinds of brain measurements on them and then we put HR heart rate variability devices on them. We asked them to trade emotions like fear or anger or resentment or impatience or frustration and stop feeling those feelings and just for a few times a day to feel gratitude and we would talk them through it just for 15 minutes, 10 or 15 minutes, two or three times a day. At the end of four days, we were looking to measure if there were any significant changes in their immune regulation and we found out that the body started producing 50% more of a chemical called IGA, immunoglobulin A, the body's natural antiviral, antibacterial, natural flu shot. And so, when you are receiving something favorable or you just receive something enjoyable, if something wonderful just happened to you or something really amazing is happening to you, you feel grateful. So, the emotional signature of gratitude is something amazing is happening to you or it just happened to you, right? So, it's the ultimate state of receiving emotionally. So, if you can teach a person to truly practice gratitude, there'll be significant changes in the way their heart thumps, the way it beats, and what it starts to do to the brain. We've studied this thousands of times. So, when you start feeling grateful, your heart starts beating in a rhythm that begins to influence or inform the brain that it's safe to create. It's believing in that moment that it's safe to be out of survival and practice that enough times, the body starts to regenerate. We saw changes in immune regulation, we saw changes in gene expression. Why? Because the body's believing it's living in an environment where the person's dreams have already happened. We only accept, believe and surrender to thoughts that are equal to our emotional state. We never accept, believe and surrender to thoughts that are not equal to our emotional state and this is why affirmations don't work. You could say, I'm healthy, I'm healthy, I'm healthy, I'm healthy, I'm wealthy, I'm wealthy, I'm wealthy, I'm free, I'm free, I'm free. And your body's going, no, you're not. You're miserable. So the thought never makes it past the brainstem to the body. teach a person to change from fear and break that conditioning and practice with enough times creating the same feeling of gratitude as automatically as they did with fear. It makes sense then that in a very short amount of time you can see very significant changes in how the body regulates and how it functions and the heart then starts to beat in this beautiful, beautiful coherent state. And so we started looking to see if teaching people how to do that and sustaining it, if it made significant changes. And without a doubt, when we accept, believe and surrender to the thoughts that are equal to the emotional state of gratitude, that information programs the autonomic nervous system into a different destiny. So then teach a person how to be in a state of receivership and gratitude, they can program their brain and body a lot quicker than when they're feeling fear and anger because you get the diagnosis. The moment you get the diagnosis, you notice a change in your internal state. You're changed. When you notice that change in your internal state, the brain freezes a frame and takes a snapshot. That's called a long-term memory. The doctor says, you, have six months to live. You have this condition. This is what happened. All that information is going in because it's equal to the emotion of fear. and get the person out of that state because that's a state of survival and you're losing energy in the body and in gratitude, you're regenerating energy. So get the person to a state of gratitude and then teach them how to program their brain and body. Then you start seeing changes in their autonomic nervous system.

Yeah, seems like the biggest pharmacy is between our ears, right? And that you're teaching people how to access that. The challenge I see for people and I'm thinking about this very selfishly and personally is, okay, I meditate, but is that enough? If I meditate 20 minutes, twice a day, and I do sort of a mantra meditation, I still have this relationship to my thoughts that I struggle with. So, are there other practices that you teach that help people to really break that pattern? Because it's not just about sitting. It's something else that has to happen as well.

-Sure, sure. And well, first of all, Absolutely. Meditation is not just to meditate and then get up and return back to the same person, flipping people off on the freeway and judging your partner. That's going back to the old self. Meditation is to prime the brain and body into a new state of being, right? And then maintain that modified state of mind and body your entire day. You got to be able to practice it with your eyes open, that no condition no circumstance in your environment, no person, no thing, no craving in the body, no wrong choice. You got to be able to sustain that state. And if you can, get ready because there's going to be changes in your outer world. That's the law. So when we started studying people that were healing in this work that were diagnosed, a lot of them with immune-mediated conditions, Mark. Like autoimmune diseases and... Yeah, autoimmune diseases from cancer to rheumatoid to everything in between. They noticed that when they started doing the meditations, they started their well-being came back, but their blood values and their markers never changed. And it occurred to them, My God, I have a great meditation. I feel amazing. But then when I get up, I return back to the same worrying person. Now I gotta step it up. I gotta make the changes with my eyes open. And when they started doing it with their eyes open, that's when we started seeing the blood values and everything changing. So in our retreats, you can sit as it and get really good at it. But then there's four types of meditation. There's a seated, there's a standing, there's a walking, and there's a laying down. And so if you're going to become that person you want to become, you better be able to practice doing it with your eyes open. So we teach people a thousand, fifteen hundred people on a beach or in a park. It's really cool to watch. Everybody get that, open their hearts, get in that elevated state and move into a new state of being. And then let's open our eyes and now let's practice walking with our eyes open as that person. No different than rehearsing for a play or rehearsing and becoming that person. And if you do it enough times and a person understands that if they could really, how would I walk if I could heal my body in an hour? Who am I going to leave behind here? and who am I going to walk as? And a lot of people just hit it and when they do, you see dramatic changes in their health because they're actually embodying the energy of their future. So we practice sitting, we practice standing and walking, we practice laying down. We practice it all ways because we want the person to become that very person in one week. And if they do, our research shows there's dramatic dramatic biological markers that change, not small amounts, like thousands.

What are you seeing? What are you seeing?

Wow, oh my God. Just everything from methylated DNA to changes in cytokines, the changes in immune markers to suppression of ATP in cancer cells. to down regulating genes for Alzheimer's and we just see dramatic changes in people's biology.

And you mentioned gene expression changes too. Can you talk about genes? Because we don't really think about our thoughts changing our genes, right?

Yeah, so I mean again, I'd like to simplify it for the average person, for us, the regular people. And it's really simple. I mean, your body's a protein producing machine. And muscle cells make muscle proteins, they're called actin and myosin. Skin cells make skin proteins, they're called collagen and elastin. Stomach cells make stomach proteins, they're called enzymes. And every cell in your body except red blood cells makes proteins. And proteins are responsible for structure, holding it together, and function and physiology, how we work. It's messengers, right? But in order for a cell to make a protein, a gene has to be regulated. So they used to say genes create disease. Well, you know this, less than 1% of the people on the planet are born with a genetic health condition. Everything else is lifestyle, it's behavior, it's stress. So then is it possible then that if they say now genes don't create disease, it's the environment that signals the gene that creates disease, take two identical twins, You watch one age looks, you know, dies at 54, the other one lives to 83. They don't even look like the same person, share the same genome. Well, the environment was signaling the gene expression to make certain proteins, and the person develops a different condition because it's the environment that does that. But here's the problem. But if the environment signals the gene, the outer environment of the cell is the inner environment of the body. and what is that? That's the emotions or chemical, physical and emotional balance that we have to maintain. So if a person's just constantly living in fear and it's even if the environment is wonderful and they're on vacation and they keep remembering an event or anticipating a future and they're bringing up the emotion of anxiety and fear, it makes sense then that the person's signaling the gene outside of the outer environment because they're making the emotion in their inner environment and there's no difference. And so if that happens, the constant effect by the hormones of stress downregulate genes and create disease. And if you can turn on that stress response just by thinking about your problems, then your thoughts are literally going to make you sick. So if your thoughts can make you sick, can your thoughts make you well? And you cannot begin to see changes in a person's health until they stop regulating the same genes the same way and they start up regulating new genes and down regulating old genes. And if they do that, they start producing different enzymes and different chemicals and different hormones and their body begins to scale in a different direction.

It's so powerful. This work is so powerful. You want to know my secret for living a long and happy and healthy life? Well, all I have to do is check out my weekly newsletter, Mark's Picks, where I share my favorite tips for health, longevity, well-being, and lots more. Check it out and link below. How is it different from other forms of meditation or practice that people are doing? Gosh, to be really honest, Mark, I.

Don'T even know what anybody else is doing. We're so immersed in the stuff that we're doing. Basically, what I am, I'm a pragmatist. You want to talk about quantum superimposition to me, if it has no effect on my life, I'm not interested. But if it's a practical application, I'm interested in the practical application. So, we look at—I was going to say we have over 13,000 brain scans now. We look at real-time brain scans. I'm looking at your brain in a one hour, an hour and 10-minute meditation. At certain moments, I'm watching what you're doing, if you can actually change your brain waves, and if you can sustain those changes. And can you do it again and make it a habit? Can you make it a skill? Can you repeat it enough times that you can do it more automatically? So, I'm watching the words, we're watching the words that I'm saying. I'm not studying any tradition, any ancient scriptures. I think that the moment you start talking religion or tradition or scriptures or spirituality, you're going to divide an audience. I think science creates community. And so what we do is we look, we've actually created, when you see a person move into love or gratitude and you see what that does to the brain in an instant, it informs the brain to be creative. When you see that and you see this dance between the two, you and you turn around and you look at that person and they got this big smile on their face there. they're so in love with the moment, they don't want it to end. And there's very strong biological changes. So we're looking at scans of hearts and brains, we're looking at collective scans of people just to see if we can demystify the process. I don't want to shut an audience off with a word. I want to create new words that are science-based. So the meditations that we teach all have meaning behind what we're doing because we've studied the scans and studied the effects and it has certain intentions of why we're doing whether we want to signal new genes, whether we want to create more brain coherence, more heart coherence, we want to create coherence between the brain and the heart. I mean, what is it that we want to do? So, we have different meditations for different intentions, really.

It's so great. And, your work is so accessible and I just would love you to share a little bit about the kinds of offerings you did. Because, people listening go, wow, this sounds great. And, how do I really change my mindset? How do I re-wire my brain? How do I, you know, get different neurons to fire together? How do I practice gratitude? How do I, how do I begin to shift my emotional states by changing my, my beliefs? And, and it's, it's, it's something that, that we need a hand for. I get, you know, we, it's hard to do on our own. And your work is just such a beautiful collection of offerings. You know, there's a scientific research and you can go on your website, drjosedispensa.com and look for that. but you've got a wonderful new online course, the Formula, which is 12-30 to 40 minute lessons and five meditations and a study guide, and allows people to access this in an easy way. It's affordable and in the comfort of their own home. So can you share a little bit about that course and then let's talk about some of the other things you're doing, like the live events and other things.

Sure. Thank you, Mark. So again, a lot of times we have a community that definitely were very interactive with. And one of the things that people kept saying is, okay, my husband, he's not going to watch the weekend course, he's not going to do the study course. My boss notices that I'm very different but he's not ready for this. Or my best friend, she's just ended a relationship and she can't stop complaining and I'm not the right person to tell her. Can you do something that's a little bit simpler and just more easily bite-sized that people can digest? So when we started looking at the process of change and transformation, we figured out it was a formula that just like dancing the salsa or hitting a golf ball or hitting a tennis ball or giving a speech, if you learn the practice of it, it gets easier. So we did this a course called the Formula and it's become super popular because basically what we're doing is we're giving you the science and the basic understandings and then you get five meditations after a few of the courses. You practice one and then you build on that, you practice the next one, then you build on this and you practice the next one and you put it together and the model just keeps expanding. So we wanted to make it something that was easy for people to wrap their mind around and not too long and not too heavy. So we did the formula and launched.

It and That's great. And, people can go to DrJoeDispenza.com and find it.

Yes, yes, it's on the website.

And then, the other thing I want to have you talk about is Dr. Joe Live, which is your monthly community question and answer. And then, share a little bit more about the live events because I think those are really immersive, intensive, week-long events. And, I've known people who've gone to those and I really want to go. And, I think they've had real transformational experiences. It's one of those game changers for people.

Dr. Joe Live is just a great thing that we do. It's an international service. We have a community of hundreds of thousands of people around the world. And one of the things is that people have questions. And the questions really are not about theoretical concepts, but more about the practical application. And so every month, the last Thursday of every month, I get on there and I just answer questions and I talk for a bit. 30 minutes or so, develop a concept, how we develop anxiety, how we develop depression, how to create brain coherence, how not to create hard incoherence. We just pick a topic and break it down for people. So when they sit down and they do the work, they remember. And they can assign meaning to what they're doing. So it's just become super popular. And you don't have to be on the call. You can subscribe and then they send you the recording and you can listen to it.

And it's free. Yeah.

It's free. No, that one is a $10 a month service.

Okay, well that's a pretty good bargain. And how about the live events? Share about what those are like and then also when you talk about the events, talk about the kinds of experiences people have, the transformations that occur, what happens in there, what to expect.

Sure. You know, we started doing these weekend workshops and when we did, we started seeing people have some really dramatic health changes and I thought, okay, let's go from Friday night, Saturday, Sunday, let's do a four and a half day event. So we started elongating the events and started seeing more healings and more changes. And then I thought, God, if we could have people for seven days, it would be really awesome. And so we started doing these seven day events. We've done 30 of them now, in fact. And it's probably, for me, the greatest place I want to be. And, and when we, when we so we solicit our community and ask them what they think of the week-long event. Over 95% say it's the best week of their life. It's just really transformative in a lot of ways. And it's, you know, I mean, it's an opportunity for people to retreat from their lives for just a whole entire week and remove the constant stimulation in their external environment that reminds them of who they think they are, you know, to separate themselves from all the people and places and things and learn vital information. and then learn the science of how to change and learn the science of how to create a new life and give people lots of opportunities. They're long days, they're full, and it's super transformative and fun. We do a lot of scientific measurements there, of course, but you'll witness some of the most incredible miracles in a one-week period of time. We just had a guy that was a veteran, a Green Beret, that had a lot of physical injuries and accidents and had PTSD, had brain injuries, he had broken lots of parts of his body and was pretty much a suicidal at this point. And he went and had two knee replacements and when he came out of the surgery he said he felt like his feet were on fire and after a couple months he asked the doctors to cut his feet off. because he couldn't handle the pain. And they said, We can't guarantee that...

Pain will go away.

Pain will go away because of phantom pain. So, anyway, he came to the event, Salt of the Earth, ex-military guy, just wide open, doesn't know anything, just tell me what to do, perfect person. And he came in a wheelchair. His wife wheeled him in a wheelchair. And, somewhere around the third or fourth day when we did our first laying down meditation, something really profound happened. He had one of those arousals and he felt it move right through his autonomic nervous system and an incredible amount of order. And when he opened his eyes, he had no pain in his feet after that moment. Now, within two hours we were out there doing a walking meditation and he went from his wheelchair to two crutches on the beach there. and sat out there, got in his heart, remembered that if he could feel the emotions of his future before it happened, his body would believe it's living in a different environment, a different reality. And this guy had nothing else to do. Nothing else was working, so he went all in. And then I see him out there the next day, Mark, and he's standing there with one crutch with his hands locked in over his crutch, and I'm just looking at him, the wind's blowing in his hair, and he's just as you could just tell this guy hooked up and there's 1,500 people on the beach and he's right in front of me. And, I swear, you can ask anybody at this event, I turned around and this guy was running down the beach and the volunteer that, you know, because with people with crutches or wheelchairs or handicapped that we have volunteers, the volunteer is running after him. And, then I see him run back and there's no volunteer. He just dusted him and he said he had connected to something so incredible, so big, that he felt like he was literally born again. And to this day, he runs now. He has no pain, he has no depression, he has no suicidal tendencies. I mean, he's in a new body, he's in a new life, he's in a whole new future. And so, you see those and you just can't go back to business as usual. You just can't be the same person again. and then we do a lot of healings also on other people now because we've, in fact we have universities now that are studying what we're doing because our effects are so incredibly dramatic. Dramatic. And so we do a lot of coherence healings on other people and again studying the effects. We had random event generators in our last event measuring if we were creating huge fluctuations in the field. Of course they were so obvious, I just looked at the data yesterday and I love people to see it. I want people to see it and if a person is part of someone else's coherence healing, I want them to know that they healed that person. I want them to know how powerful they are. And I don't care what they eat, what they believe in, I don't care where they're from, the color of their skin, how in shape, out of shape they are. I've talked to all of them. Nobody is excluded. That all forms and walks of life are doing this collectively and it's becoming a new consciousness. What I mean by that is what I'm saying is consciousness is awareness. The moment you become aware of possibilities that you are unaware of, now they exist and that means that other people can step into those footprints, not just as a possibility, but witnessing the possibility in front of them is truth. Because the person who's standing on the stage who's talking about how their stage four cancer went into remission and there's no metastasis in any bone PET scan and you can see the before and after. I'm looking at the audience and everybody is leaning in. You know why? Because they're looking at truth. They're staring truth right in the face and they can't deny it. And that person isn't telling a glamorous story. They're going to tell you the real facts of what happened to them and it's going to be relatable. And so we have really compelling evidence in our scientific studies. And we have really compelling evidence in our testimonies of students in this work and evidence is the loudest voice and that's what's going to make a difference.

That's so great, Joe. This is such good work and I'm just so proud of you for doing it and bringing this to everybody. I know it's hard to schlep around and do all this work and but you're in service and it's just a beautiful thing to see. And I can't wait to go to your next workshop.

I can tell you, you,'re invited. You're invited. Okay, well, now you don't have an excuse.

No, I don't. I haven't the time. And, you know, I actually just was cluing into my own self-awareness and my own level of well-being and my own suffering or negative thoughts. And I've been going through some stuff lately that's been challenging. And just having this conversation with you, I feel totally transformed. And I'm like, wow, okay. Well, I'm going in for the week. If I can get this in an hour. You talk about the four super villains in your book that stand in the way of learning and how actually to overcome them.

Yes. And so this digital deluge is one, digital distraction is another. I would say the third one is this thing called digital dementia, which you just mentioned. Digital dementia, where, yeah, how many phone numbers did we know growing up? We knew all of them, right? But how many phone numbers do you know now?

That's true.

And it's hard and people listening are like, well, I don't want to memorize 500 phone numbers. and honestly, either do I. But we've lost the ability to remember one. I mean, even directions.

I mean, I. You'd have to find your way through a map. You'd figure out where you're going, and then you would actually memorize the route.

Right.

And I just was in New Zealand, visiting my wife, and I like to play tennis every day. So I was playing tennis every day, and I had my Google Maps. I used to stick it up, and I went to the same place every day. But I actually needed the map because I wasn't really paying attention except to the map. and I easily could have found my way around. It wasn't that many turns, but I didn't really care to pay attention. And it does have an effect because unless you use it, you lose it.

And exactly, because our brains act more like a muscle than anything. It's use it or lose it. If I put my arm in a sling for a year, it wouldn't grow stronger. It wouldn't even stay the same. It would atrophy. And a lot of our brains, digital dementia is where we're outsourcing our brains smart devices, it's keeping our calendars, our to-dos, it's telling us how to get from here to there. They're not getting early, I heard recently that we're not getting early detection of brain aging challenges, and one of the reasons why is GPS. Like if you're relying on technology to take you from here to there, you're not realizing when you would have a memory lapse, so you're not going to get checked out and get looked at. And so these are the challenges, digital dementia, and I'm not saying- and by.

The way, In terms of medical research on actual dementia, people who use their brains get less dementia. Right. People who are learning and lifelong learners who read, who do mental puzzles, who do brain learning exercises, who follow the work that you do, don't get dementia at the same rate as everybody else. And it staves it off because it's.

Just, you know what it is if it's not just about mental intelligence. You know, in this book, I show you how to learn languages, how to be able to focus, how to read faster, or remember facts, figures, all that information, but it's also about mental fitness and mental health. And then that's a conversation that I'm glad that we're having because more and more people, because our brains control everything, right? You write whole books on brain health and optimizing our brain's potential. So digital dementia is a challenge that wasn't there previous generations. And the last one I would say is this thing called digital deduction, meaning that now with technology, and again, technology is not good or bad, and in a lot of ways it serves us. It helps us to be able to connect. It helps us to be able to learn, to be able to inspire, to be able to educate ourselves. But digital deduction is where technology is just doing all the thinking for us. We no longer have to use critical thinking. or use our own reasoning or using our own analysis because everything is being spoon-fed to us. You know, everything is like, this is what you should be buying or reading or anything. It's all these algorithms that are there. And so in this book, you know, to overcome those four super challenges, those that we have, and I think through challenges could come change and positive progress where sometimes, you know, in the hero's journey and this book is written in the hero's journey as as an homage to Joseph Campbell's work, you know, where there's a call to adventure and we leave the ordinary world that we're into this more extraordinary world. And we face trials and we find mentors and you learn techniques and strategies, and then you come home and then you bring that back, you know, in the return with this magical treasure of elixir. Because I believe the life we live are the lessons that we teach. but it starts with the brain. And you and I have had this conversation where metaphorically our brain is like a computer. You have the hardware, which is you want to optimize that because more people upgrade their phones than they upgrade their brain. You need stress management, you need to sleep, you need to be around positive or positive peer groups because as you've mentioned, it's not just your biological networks or your neurological networks, it's our social networks. Because who we spend time with is who you become. Which is why it's so important to really do an audit around the people that you give them the power over how you feel and how you think. Because you have these things called mirror neurons where we're always imitating the things that are around us. When you watch a movie or you watch sports, you can feel what the players or the actors are feeling because that's how we learn things. And whoever we're spending time with on a regular basis, I watch tennis a.

Lot so I can get better to beat you.

Through osmosis. Because we're always adapting and adopting the language patterns of people around us, the habits, the routines, the behaviors. They say who you spend time with is who you become. That be careful. If you're spending time with nine broke people, you're going to be number 10. But all these things play a role and especially the thing that you're on a mission for is food because what you eat matters, especially for your gray matter. So that's all on the hardware part and what a lot of the book is about is really the software of it. Like, you know, how to be able to read faster, how to be able to pick up another language, how to memorize poetry or your, or your, that TED Talk or that toast you have to give at the wedding or give a sales presentation or have, how to have laser focus so you could get through your, your to-do list, all the things that, you know, we've really honed over the three decades.

I mean, that all sounds fun. People are like, well, so why do I should I care about speed reading or do my to-do list? But it is a bigger framework here because everything that happens in our life is a result of how we grow. And how we grow is connected to how we learn. And learning literally physically changes our brain. It changes our intellect. It changes the possibilities we have in our life. And there's an old Chinese proverb that says learning is a treasure that will follow its owner. everywhere. What we learn becomes part of who we are and the tools that we can access them are so important and you teach those tools. You know, I read an article in the New York Times recently about, you know, Jewish community and why there's so many Nobel Prize winners and scientists and leaders in society and part of the reason is that we were persecuted. We were slaves, we were chased around the world. There was the inquisition. Europe, or chased out of Europe, chased out of Russia. I mean, and so the only thing that we had was knowledge. No one can take that away from you. It's portable, it's in your head, and it's why Jews have focused on that. I remember my mother, the drumbeat was education, education, learning, learning, learning. Why ask why? Learn and learn and learn. And I think that's really what your gift is to humanity, is reawakening people enthusiasm to grow and learn because the result is possibility.

Right.

Is, you know, advancement in your life is being able to actually have deep and connected relationships and do the things you want.

An investment in knowledge pays the most dividends, especially in today's age where we live in the millennium of the mind. Nobody who's listening this is paid for purely their physical strength, right? It's our mental strength. our ability to solve problems, our ability to be creative, our ability to imagine new, new things. You know, it's not our muscle power, it's our mind power. And really, the faster you can learn, the faster you could earn. Not just financially, that's obvious, but all the treasures of our life. Hi everyone. Hope you're enjoying the episode. Before we continue, we have a quick message from Dr. Mark Hyman about his new company, Farmacy, and their first product, the 10-Day Reset.

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That'S GetPharmacy with an F, F-A-R-M-A-C-Y.com Now back to this week's episode. The reason why I'm so excited about this conversation is because let's say to the person who's listening to this right now, If there was a genie could grant you any one wish, any one wish, just one wish, what would you wish for? You would wish for millions of wishes, right? Infinite wishes. That would be the hack, if you will. Well, if I was your learning genie.

But in Latin, genie said you can't wish for more wishes.

Right, right. But if I was your learning genie and I could grant you any one wish to learn any subject or any skill, but just one. What would the equivalent be for asking for infinite wishes? In that same spirit, it would be, I would want to learn how to learn. Because if you can learn how to learn, everything gets easier. You could grant all your own wishes. It could be Mandarin, martial arts, music, marketing, management, anything that you're excited about.

You could memorize the entire stock market.

Exactly. Anything that would be able to serve you better in it's a meta skill. They call it meta learning, learn the science of learning how to learn. And that really, I believe, is that if knowledge is power, learning is our superpower. And it's a superpower we all have. So in this book, Limitless, it used to be when I wrote this, a book purely on methods, all the things that I was telling you about on, on how to remember people's names, on how to give speeches, without using notes on how to remember facts and figures and to vantage your career.

Why haven't I hired you yet to work with me?

Right.

But what I realized was...

I think Jim's my friend. I'm like, oh, but I didn't forget.

Like, you know... We need to do this. So, one of the things is people know what to do, but they don't always do what they know, right? And this is the reason I wrote this book is because just knowing something is not enough. I believe one of the lies, and I talk about all the lies in this book around learning, like seven lies specifically that keep us from moving forward. And one of the lies is that knowledge is power. People believe, we've heard this so long ago, that knowledge is power. I even said it just a few minutes ago, right? But if you think about it, it's not really true. Knowledge alone is not power. Knowledge applied becomes power, not knowledge is potential power, but when you use it, it becomes power. And so here's the thing, all the books and podcasts, online courses, conferences, none of it works unless we work. And I've always been curious, what's the difference that makes the difference? What's the difference that takes the common sense things that you know we should do, eating whole organic foods, meditating, each day, journaling, having emotional bonds and social connections, exercising. We know what to do, but we don't always do what we know because common sense is not common practice. So, after I had all these problems...

Mark Twain said, the problem with common sense is it's not too common.

That's the truth. So, this book was all techniques, and then I was like, this is great. And I'll keep these here because they're, they're, it'll help people to advance their careers and do everything better. But then I was like, what keeps people from doing these things? And I, and I created over the past three decades a model, a model that I call the limitless model that really explains how to learn and achieve anything faster. And it's, if everyone could picture a Venn diagram, right? Three circles. that intersect. Yeah. Right. So you have three circles that intersect and there are three M's and this is the key to be limitless. Usually if there's a gap between where you are and where you want to be, let's say it's a, it's a your current reality and you have this desired reality for your health or in your relationship or in your career, whatever area it happens to be. If you're not making positive progress towards it, and that's how I define Limitless. I do not define Limitless as being perfect. I don't believe in perfection. Limitless is not about being perfect. It's about advancing beyond what you believe is possible. I believe the ultimate quest that we're all on is to be able to realize, reveal our fullest potential. That's what I think we're here to do. And I think it's believed, I believe it starts with learning, because learning is the grandmother grandfather of all transformation. You know, you can't do anything unless you learn it first, right? So, 3Ms and if you're not achieving or making progress towards your goal, usually there's a constraint and it's usually unconscious, a constraint in one of these three areas or more. So, I want everyone to think about the first circle. The first M is the M of mindset. Now, I define mindset as these assumptions and attitudes we have about the world and ourselves. So what would fall under mindset is what you believe you deserve, what you believe you are capable of, what you believe is possible. Now you could have that positive mindset, this growth mindset that that debt you hear Dr. Carol Dweck talk about versus a fixed mindset. Now that alone is not going to get you your goals and your dreams, just having an empowering mindset you need the second M and the second M is motivation. Now, when I say the word motivation, it's a little bit loaded because some people believe motivation is they associated to being hyped up, getting excited for a couple of minutes, you know, while they're at that seminar jumping to music, right?

Yeah.

And it's kind of like that metaphor of a warm bath. It's nice in the moment and yes, I'm going to dominate journal every day. I'm gonna do Pilates three times a week. I'm gonna eat the best food ever. And in the moment, you feel like that's the case, but then it cools down. I'm not defining motivation like that. For me, motivation is having a purpose. And I'm not talking about a life purpose. I'm talking about having a reason. So, for example, I, I was, I was talking to an entrepreneur, Tom Bilyeu, and he wakes up every morning. at 4 something and he works out at 5 a.m. and I was like, Do you enjoy this every single day? He's like, no, I hate working out. And because some people feel like that if they're motivated about something inherently means you find joy in it. And I haven't found that to be the case. Like occasionally I do these ice baths or these cold showers to lower inflammation. It helps me reset my nervous system. I have a video online that has 10 million plus share just on my morning routine. I don't enjoy, I hate the cold. I despise the cold. I grew up in the northeast here and it's not for me and I've done it for years and I still don't find joy in it. But I still do it and I'm motivated to do it every single day because I have a reason. So for me, motivation has a three-step formula. Motivation for me is not about being hyped up and excited for the moment. It's about Reason, right? Purpose.

Purpose.

Yeah, having a clear reason and purpose times energy times small, simple steps. Now let me just break this down for everybody. I want you to think about something that you want to be motivated for, where the opposite in the book is procrastination. I teach people how to smash procrastination. But think about something you want to be motivated to do, something you know you should do but you're still not doing. doing it. Now, first, the reason is, like, for example, remembering names. A lot of people do not remember names, not because they're not capable of remembering names. Because the truth is, 95. If I was to ask your audience right now, who has challenges remembering names? 99 of them will say, if they're honest, I do. I'm bad at remembering names. And then I will say, okay, well, let's say Mark has a suitcase of a million dollars cash. for you if you just remember the name of the next stranger you meet. Who's going to remember that person's name for a million dollars cash tax-free for your favorite charity? Everybody. So all of a sudden, your whole audience is full of memory experts now. So it's actually a lie, a lie, or, you know, and these are the lies we tell ourselves. I'm not good at remembering names. You're present to it. Exactly. And you need a reason because here's the thing. Not everybody remembers everyone's name. but we certainly don't forget everyone's name either. And if you reverse engineer it, you'll find that there's a method behind what looks like magic. You didn't just happen to remember the person's name. There was a motivation. There was a motive for taking action. There was a purpose.

But you've got special tricks.

How do you remember 100 people in an audience? Well, even here, and we'll go through the methods, even here, a simple trick would be asking yourself, why do I want to remember the person's name? Because a lot of people's names you remember are people you're attracted to, people who could be good for your brand or your business, right? There's an inherent motivation and so when you're meeting somebody and you want to remember their name, ask yourself, why do I want to remember the person's name? Because write this down as I know a lot of people are taking notes, reasons reap results. If you do not have a reason to do something, you will not do it. Reasons reap rewards. And so the first part is like a lot of people, they can't get themselves to read you want to read a book a week. We know if the average person reads two or three books a year, but a book a week, 52 books a year, that will transform your life. But a lot of people can't get themselves to read 10, 15, 20 minutes a day because they're not associating themselves to the reason. But let's say they do have a clear reason. The second part of the formula besides having a purpose is energy. What keeps people from, and this is never really talked about in books, because you'll get books on mindset, you'll have books on motivation, but a key element to motivation, your motive for taking action, like the proof that you're motivated is your acting, right? And so what I'm thinking about is energy. Some people could have a clear reason to read, to work out, but they have no energy. Like they didn't sleep the night before, right? Or they're super stressed, so they lack the vitality to do that action. and that's keeping them from doing those sales calls or taking that road trip or to do the things that they need to be able to do. And so you need to look at energy. So in here I talk about 10 ways of jump starting your mental vitality, right? Which includes maximizing your sleep, stress management, and I quote you in there also a lot about the brain foods. Because as we talked about on your show, what you eat matters, especially for your gray matter, right? And then once you have, you're motivated, see my question is always critical thinking. I'm thinking, okay, is the person, if I'm programming this robot, for example, if it has a reason, is it going to do it? Not necessarily. It needs energy. Okay, so let's say it has a reason and energy. Is it motivated yet? The one thing I could think of that it won't take action on is because the thing that they're thinking about is too big, meaning that you think about oh, I want to start a business. Like how do you like that's not, that's not a task or a step, right? So the third part are small, simple steps because this is motivation for me is about, you know, time management. This is energy management. Having a clear purpose gives you energy and clarity because something that's not clear takes away energy. You know, having energy and energized brain gives you energy. And then finally, small, simple steps. require very little energy. They require very little effort. So my thing with getting people to really make functional change, like to put down this food and pick up this junk, pick up in this food, is to break it down in a small, simple step. Meaning that instead of thinking your goal is to have the perfect relationship or the perfect body, how do you break it down into the smallest step where you cannot fail? It's like this, you know, like the BJ Fogg framework.

Exactly.

So, in here, we talk about reverse engineering your habits. And I take Dr. BJ Fogg, who heads the behavior lab at Stanford University, and he talks about tiny habits. He's saying, hey, flossing your teeth, we all know it's good for your longevity. Floss one tooth. Floss one tooth. Same thing with reading. If you want to read a book a week, don't focus on that 45 minutes a day that it takes takes to read a book, you know, or if you learn speed reading, doing 15 minutes a day, hey, read one sentence, because nobody's gonna stop after one sentence. It's not like, oh, I gotta do this one hour soul cycle. It's like, I gotta put, I gotta.

Get myself out the door. Well, I did it because I hated, like, weightlifting and push-ups and all that stuff. I love to run and bike and tennis and all that. And I, I decided, okay, I want to start doing more strength stuff, so I'm gonna start with push-ups right. I can do that. I'm like, well, I really can barely do 10 push-ups, but I'm gonna start and I realized, well, what do I need? Well, I'm motivated. I have a reason. I'm aging. I want to age well and motivated. You have energy. And I have the energy. So I realized I shower pretty much every day. Okay. And I turn the shower on. It takes, like, a few minutes to warm up. So I do push-ups before I want. So the trigger is the turning the shower on, and then I do my push-ups and I want from 10 to 50 push-ups. just by just these little steps and it works.

And here's the thing, it's really, if you're persistent, you could achieve it, but if you're consistent, you could keep it. You know, I believe consistency compounds that little by little, a little becomes a lot. And that's how you create a transformation in an individual or in a culture, like the movement that you have with Food Fix. It's these little things that add up. that add up to big things over time. So that's motivation.

And the third part.

And then the third circle on here, once you have the mindset and the motivation, are you getting the results? Not necessarily. What's the one thing that's missing? The third M, which is the method. Right. The methodology. You need to know how to do it. So the mindset is the what. The motivation is the why. Your reason. And then the method. are the how. Now here's the thing. This is where the magic comes in. I want everyone to think about something they want to be more limitless about, meaning progress, make progress, make some advancements that are measurable. The minds where mindset in this Venn diagram crosses over with motivation, that's where you have something called, I call inspiration. And because I alliterate everything, 3Ms, here are your three I's. So mindset crosses over with motivation. you have inspiration. And there are books on mindset and there are books on motivation, right? And there are books on inspiration or social media posts or speakers or something. That's inspiration. Now, that doesn't mean that you're going to have the result because what are you missing? You're missing the methods, right? Now, if you have the motivation and the methods, then you have the second I where that crosses over. You have implementation. But the problem is you're doing it, right? You're motivated and you know what to do, but the ceiling in your results is your mindset. What you feel like you deserve, what you feel like you're capable of. Because all behavior is going to be belief-driven. If your mindset is, I have a horrible memory, you can be motivated and know what to do and you still won't remember because the behavior will be limited by the belief.

So show me the money. What are the methods?

And then so we're getting, so in the book we show people how to how to unravel these negative beliefs that hold them back. Now finally, where mindset crosses over with methods, that's where you have ideation. So you have inspiration, you have implementation, and then you have ideation. You have the right mindset. You have this winner growth mindset. Anything is possible. I deserve it all. And you have the methods, right? But you're not motivated. so it just stays as an idea. This is ideation where people just analysis paralysis, think about all these different things. Where all three of these intersect, where mindset, motivation and methods intersect, where inspiration, implementation and ideation intersect is the fourth I, which is integration. Because ultimately real transformation is a full integration and that sweet spot where all three connect. is that limitless state. And that's really, I believe this limitless model is an explanatory schema for anyone for themselves, their team, their family, if there's a gap between where they are and where they want to be. This book is about redrawing the borders and boundaries of what we have.

So give us some practical tips. How do you, for example, read 25 to 50% faster? Remember names? numbers or bullet points. And how do you, how do you.

What are those methods? Let's do it. So, so going to the, so, I.

Mean, I want to get a free console here.

No, no, no. Let's do it. Actually, will you do the actual coaching here? So the book is breaking down, is broken down into three sections. So we, so it's actually three books in one, you know, where we go through and dissect a mindset and we talk about the limiting beliefs that hold us back and the truth. Right. Because we talk about these seven lies. and lie for me is a, it's a limited idea entertained. It's not the truth. It's an idea that we give energy to, that we entertain, that we, that we picked up. Because here's the thing when it comes to this, because I'm gonna talk about speed reading. Some people, I could teach them the method, but they could believe they're stupid, or they could believe they're a small, they're a slow reader, or they could believe they are a procrastinator and they won't do the method. So we, we debunk these lies. because they're really BS, right? They're belief systems, right? So assuming people have the right mindset and they're motivated to read because some people, you can teach them what to do, they still won't do it because they're not, they know they could do it but they don't feel it, like the benefits of what it'd be like. Like for me, an example I share in the book is the reason I'm here today is because when I was 18 years old and I learned these skills, my life transformed. and I couldn't help but help other people and I started to teach this and one of my very first students, she was a freshman, she read 30 books in 30 days. Honest to God, 30 books, not skimmer scan, she read. And I wanted to find out not how, I didn't want to know the method, I taught her the method. I want to know what her motivation was because most people who learned that same method did not do the same thing. And I found out, I wanted to ask her, how do you find out someone's motivation? You ask them why? why? You know, why were you doing this? You know, and I found out, I always get choked up thinking about this. Her mother was dying of terminal cancer. Doctors gave her just two more months to live. And the books she was reading were books like that you write, books to save her mom's life, books on health, wellness, alternative medicine, energy, everything. And I was like, I wish you luck, you know, prayers, you know, and I don't talk to her for Six months later, I had a call from this young lady and she's crying and she's crying, crying. And when she stops, I find out they're tears of joy that her mother not only survived but is really getting better. Doctors don't know how, they don't know why. The doctors called it a miracle, but her mother attributed 100% to the great advice she got from her daughter who learned it from all these books. And then I get goosebumps. Yeah, I get the chills when you talked about it. I call them truth bumps. But I feel like that... -Truth comes.

Yeah, that's good.

-That'S when I realized that if knowledge is power, then learning is our superpower and it's a power we all have. We just weren't taught in this world. But I illustrate this saying that I'll teach right now, I'll share with you some great tips on how to read faster. But you have to believe it's possible and you need a reason to do so. Just like going to the gym, you don't have to enjoy it, and I feel like you'll enjoy it once you get good at it. for example, a lot of people do not read because they're not good at it. And if somebody wasn't good at tennis, it wouldn't be a very enjoyable process. I'm not very great at golf, so I really don't find a lot of joy in playing golf because it is a struggle. But if I was great at it, like Tiger Woods or whoever, then I would be wanting to play all the time. It's fun because your competence is looped together. So that being the case, find your why to read. Now to read a book a week. Yeah, tell us how. Yeah, so this is the key. Having just written the book, the average book on Amazon has about 64,000 words, the average one. Now I know yours are larger, but 64,000 words. Now the average person reads about 200 words per minute. Now if you divide those two numbers together, you takes about 320 minutes to get through one book. That sounds like a lot, but break it down into seven days in a week, that's about 45 minutes a day. So that means 45 minutes of reading a day. You could split it up 20 minutes in the morning, 25 in the afternoon, you get through one book a week, 52 books a year. That would transform, I mean what books would you read over the course of a year? That's like having a PhD in any category. You think about the what you would study in terms of entrepreneurship or wellness or anything else like that. Now that's 45 minutes a day. Now if you read, we graduate people, we have students 195 countries, they triple their reading speed on average. That means 15 minutes a day will get you through a book a week. Amazing. So how do you do that?

The same level of comprehension and reading.

With the same, it better. So it's so insane because traditional, I.

Got a lot of books on my shelf over there.

I'm dying to get through them. So here's the thing. And that doesn't even take time because that's a mindset issue. Here's the thing. I filter everything through these 3Ms. And so when you're coaching your patients or somebody who's listening to this, their spouse or their teammates, whenever they're talking, you can see where the constraint is. Is it in a belief or is it in a motivation? How was the technique to go from, you know... So this is how you do it. 45 to 15 minutes. This is how you do it. The faster readers tend to have better comprehension in actuality. That's the truth. So if we're gonna unravel these these myths, faster readers tend to have better comprehension. And I know this because we have students in 195 countries, so we have a lot of data. And I've worked with kids with learning difficulties to seniors, and so genius leaves clues. One of the keys are what keeps us from reading faster, I'll tell you. Number one, lack of education. We're not born with the ability to read. We learned it. But the last time we took a class called reading, how old were you? Yeah, exactly. You were seven years old. and so everything has changed since then, but we're still reading the same way.

Right?

So that's the challenge. So this is the education part. The second reason why is lack of focus. Some people will not read faster because they lack the focus. They'll read a page in a book, get to the end, and then just forget what they just read. And then go back and reread it. Now, but if when reading is done well, it doesn't take time. It actually makes you time. Because if I could double everyone's reading speed, I'll show you how right right now, if I could double your reading speed, that means what takes an hour only takes 30 minutes. The average person has about four hours of reading a day. Think about it. Think about the text messages, the emails, the magazines, the journals, everything you need to process information. By the way, the reason why we do so much corporate training at Google and GE and WordPress and SpaceX, all these things, is because if the average workday is being spent They spend four hours a day processing information. That means half of their salary is being paid just to read. That means if someone's being paid $50,000, they're being paid $25,000 just to do something so ubiquitous like reading. And they're reading like they read when they were seven years old. So here's the thing. If you could just double your reading speed instead of four hours, how do you do it? Do it in two hours. I'm going into the motivation so people will do it because the strategy is really easy. Two hours a day over the if you save but two hours a day over the course of a year? No, no, no I want to share with you. But the reason why I do this is because it's notI'll tell you what it is and most people won't do it, until they realize they can save two hours a day over the course of even as they save one hour a day over the course of a year, is three hundred and sixty five hours. That is nine forty hour work weeks you get back. twowo months of productivity. So I want that to be your wife. What would you do with two extra months a year?

Every company should send all their employees to go to do the training.

Right, but everyone listening should make this a priority when I'm about to teach you the method because the motivation is there. What would you do with an extra hour a day or an extra two months a year? Most people kill themselves to get an extra two weeks of vacation time a year, right? And so that's the why. Now, the technique is very simple. the faster you read, the faster readers have the better Focus. The reason why, when you read slow, you're feeding the super brain one word at a time. Metaphorically, we starving our brain. And if you don't give your brain the stimulus it needs, it'll seek entertainment elsewhere in the form of distraction. Right. And that's why you distract yourself. It's like driving. If you're going 20 miles an hour in your neighborhood, you're not really focused on it. What are you doing? You're doing five days, you're drinking your coffee, you're texting, which you should know you shouldn't. You're having conversations, you're thinking about the dry cleaning because you're going slow.

That's like reading.

Most people are reading. You're going 100 miles an hour, you're darn focused. Exactly. If you're racing cars, taking hairpin turns, you're only focused on two things: the act of driving and what's in front of you. And you're not thinking about the dry cleaning, you're not trying to text, you're not trying to check your makeup, you're doing just those things. That's why just like with reading, when people are reading faster, they're just focused on the act of reading and what's in front of them. And I'm dispelling these mindset beliefs because if I don't dispel them, people will think like, oh, I'm not going to read faster. I'm not going to understand what I'm going to read. And if I don't tap motivation, they're not going to do the method. But here is the method. One more obstacle that we're going to fix with the method: subvocalization. subvocalization is this act of saying the words as you read, right? You notice that when you read to yourself, you hear that inner voice inside your head. Hopefully it's your own voice. It's not like somebody else's voice. The reason why it's a challenge is if you have to say all the words in order to understand them, you can only read as fast as you could speak. That means your reading speed is limited to your talking speed, not your thinking speed. I bet you a lot of people are listening to this show right now at 1.5 or 2x. Right? Because they can understand it at that much, but they can't talk that fast. And here's the question, the question of mindset belief. Do you have to say the words in order to understand them? The truth is you don't. Any more than you say comma, question mark, you don't do those things. You don't have to say a lot of words, the, there, and because they're filler words. 95% of the words you see are words you've seen before. You don't have to pronounce them. So the fastest readers don't pronounce all the words. and then finally, it's the last obstacle that we'll fix right now is regression. A lot of people are slow readers because they unconsciously re-read words. Have you ever read like a line and found yourself rereading this, the line again or going back? It actually 25-50% of our time, sometimes unconsciously upwards of, can be spent rereading words and it's very taxing for the eyes because in speed reading there are these things called fixations. fixation is a fancy word for an eye stop. When you're reading a word, your eyes fixate on the word and then the next word and the next word and there are about 10 words per line in the average book. So it's making 10 stops. Now the equivalent would be for kids when they're reading, they're very slow readers first learning how to read, they don't see words, they see letters and they're looking at each individual letter sounding them out. So they're making like 40 stops going through the line. That's why it takes them so long to read. Now, the equivalent of how kids read that make 40 stops to adults reading, you know, 10 stops, speed readers actually make three, maybe two or three or four stops, right? Because they see groups of words like adults, normal readers see groups of letters. So they're only, they're seeing three chunks at a time. So their eyes only have to stop two or three times. And that's the equivalent of driving in traffic. you know, having to make 10 stops over instead of just two or three, that other persons get there a lot faster. So the growth here to read faster, one of the ways of teaching yourself to read in groups and the subvocalized less, now this is the method part, is by using a visual pacer. Now this is so simple. When people read using a visual pacer, it could be like a pointer, a pen, a highlighter, a mouse on a computer, your finger, a pencil. When you underline the words, not skip anything, because I bet in your traditional speed reading class, you skip words or you go down the page or you make fancy S or Z forms, but you miss big gaps. Yeah, yeah. That's why you get the gist of what you read. So traditional speed reading, people, it's not for comprehension, it's skimming.

Yeah, yeah.

That's what I learned. Yeah, exactly. But you don't want your doctor to get the gist of what he's reading, right? That wouldn't make any and so for me, what we've tested is if you just underline the words, don't skip anything and test yourself. Don't, don't, not with an actual pen, but just like, yeah, you could, you don't under, you're not actually inking it up or anything. If you're reading on a screen, you're not touching the screen or touching the paper, you're just underlining the words and then test yourself. Read for 60 seconds without using a visual pacer. Count the number of lines you just read. Then set your timer to read 60 seconds using your finger while you read. and count the number of lines you just read. That second number will be a 25-50% lift across the board. And now if you practice it more, it'll get even better. But here's the reason why, and I tell the why to increase your motivation because some people like, oh, that's nice, but you don't understand why, so adults won't do it. Number one, kids do it. All children, all children, when, when, if you didn't teach them to do otherwise, they'll use their finger to help them to read. because it helps their focus. It's true. Second of all, you do it. And you're thinking, I don't use my finger when I read, but if I asked you to count the number of lines you just read, a hundred percent of the people watching, listening will use their finger and use it as a pacer. One, two, three, four, or a pen. One, two, three. Because the third reason why is because your eyes are attracted to motion. Like if something ran, somebody ran past the cameras here, nobody would look it up. because your eyes are hardwired as a hunter gatherer, your survival. You have to look at what moves the most in your environment because it could be a threat. You're a hunter gatherer in a bush, you're hunting lunch, you know, a rabbit or carrot, whatever your viewers eat. If the bush next to you moves, you have to look because number one, it could be lunch or number two, you could be lunch. So you have to look at what moves or your eyes are hardwired to look at what moves. When you're underlining the words, your eyes are being pulled through the information as opposed to your attention being distracted and pulled out. And then the final reason you use your fingers while you read is because it's how your neurology is set up, your nervous system, your senses. Have you ever tasted a great piece of fruit from the farmer's market? Not something that's been waxed and sprayed.

Wild strawberry.

Yeah, something like right off the vine. Have you ever tasted a great tasting peach? In actuality, you're not tasting the peach. Your tongue is not capable of tasting what a peach tastes like. It's actually smelling the peach. But your sense of smell and your sense of taste are so closely linked that your mind can't perceive the difference. It could perceive the difference when you're sick because when you can't breathe out.

Of your nose, food tastes what?

Bland. But that's because your sense of smell and taste are so closely linked. Just as your sense of smell and taste are linked, so is your sense of sight and your sense of touch. touch that literally when people underline the words as they read, people will tell me all the time, I feel, I don't know what it is, I feel more in touch with my reading. In fact, if you go to a child, a toddler and say, look at my keys, look at my keys, look at my keys, the child will what? Reach out and grab and touch because in order for him or her to feel like they're seeing it, they have to touch it. It's equivalent of if somebody is blind. Another example, how do they, if they can't see, how do they read? Right. With their sense of touch.

So, your book is full of these practical tips and it's the whole Magilla from mindset to motivation to method, breaking it all down and helping people become really limitless. And, you know, I always try to push against my limitations, but I think I've forced my way and this is sort of like a way to shift that. and actually make it easier. And I'm just so glad you wrote this book. You have so many great things there. In there, you talk about a not to-do list. You have an incredible 10-day quick start challenge, which I think people are gonna love. So it's. It's about how, but it's also exactly the specifics of how to get it done, which is what I love about it. And I'm, like, actually, you know, I don't get excited about a lot of stuff, and, you know, I've known you for a long time, and I know your work, and it's one of those things I'm, like, thinking it's a nice to-do someday. and I'm like, when can I get started on this? Because I'm really jazzed. Because my life is all about learning. It's all about understanding. And I feel like if I can accelerate that and read a book a week, it's the best news I've heard.

I'm saying we show up differently when we have that level of confidence. When you could walk into a room with 20 strangers and leave saying goodbye to every single one of them by name. You know, you show up different. Especially in business. This, you know, the number one business etiquette networking skill is just remember someone's name. How are you going to show someone you're going to care for their health, their wealth, their finances, their family if you don't care enough just to remember them? And so, so great.

So great, Jim. Hey, YouTube, if you like this video, you're going to love the next one. Click on it to check it out today.

Getting quality, sufficient sleep on a regular basis is without question the foundation of mental and health and probably physical health as well.

No, I know. I mean, this is so huge. This is such a huge idea.

So sleep.