Pure Kingdom with Guests David Carpenter & Jacob Valdellon | Ron + Hope: Unfiltered

Foreign. Hey, guys, this is Ron and Hope. Unfiltered, real raw and relevant. And you said, ah, Hope's not here. Well, hang on just a minute. A couple of weeks ago, I did a very fascinating podcast with a gentleman businessman from Miami named David Carpenter. Him and some business associates came all the way to the west coast for Miami just because they had been following. They're hungry for the kingdom, and they employ these kingdom keys into their business. And so I said, sure, come on. And I made time for them to be on their podcast. And the more they interviewed me, the deeper I went. And it just became an amazing 90 minutes together. And so I've asked him, I said, could I use that as my podcast if you're hungry for the kingdom? I think the kingdom is the way. It's the way I live life. It is the message that I preach. It is the reason why I believe Jesus came was to bring his kingdom. And so I've made it my life's passion as well. So without any further ado, I want you to hang on and just hear this as we launch Pure Kingdom. I hope you enjoy it.

What's going on? Anointed Ones podcast.

This is David Carpenter and Jacob Valdon.

And we are back and we are blessed to have Pastor Ron Carpenter on the episode here. Just been following you, Ron, for. For many years now. Absolutely love what you're doing.

I love your heart. Many years, man.

Yeah, just your. Just your legacy. What I. What I love most about, you know, your legacy, although you, you know, you started in 1991, you've built many churches, you've mentored so many great leaders, you've impacted the community. But I just love your heart for people. I love that you love culture. I love that you. You have a passion to. To really integrate a lot of culture into your church. I love that you love empowering people. I think that's. It just shows your. Your heart. You know, they say the greatest among you is your servant. And you just have. You just have this way of making people feel comfortable around you. I just love you.

I'm going hang around you guys all the time y. Making me feel good.

I love your style of leadership. I love your passion. I love your love for God. And what I love most about what you're doing is you talk about assignment, you talk about the Kingdom of God. You really help bring revival or the kingdom to the marketplace. And we started this podcast and really the ministry that we're in based on one of the messages that we heard from you. And the message was on assignment. And you talked about the anointed about.

A year, a little over a year ago.

End of 20. 23.

Okay, end of 23. It's been a while. I remember the series. I just weren't quite sure how long ago it was.

Yeah, it was probably like a year, year and a half ago. And. And it's funny, we're listening to it and we're like, oh my gosh, this makes so much sense. Like it makes sense that God wants to have dominion, authority on earth. And you talked about the anointing and you talked about being on assignment and using your life to glorify God. And that stuck with us. And that imparted something into us when we heard that word. And that AO is our business. It's an insurance business, but it's also the ministry. But we encourage people that your ministry is in the marketplace too.

I love the way you've integrated that, that you're not keeping the spiritual life and marketplace separate. They were never meant to be separate. One is totally a part of the other. In fact, the business model should be birthed out of your spiritual walk with God, managed by it. The boundaries, the core values that you have, all of those things should be spirit led, you know, So I love the fact that those two are one and the same because that's the way I see it, you know. But anyway, I. Number one, your comments are very kind. Thank you. And I won't go into how you found out about it. So I'm always curious if somebody said, I've been following you, I want to say, you know, how did that happen? But I will tell you this. You know, I just got off the phone a little bit ago. I had about a 45 minute conference call with one of my pastors in my fellowship. And funny, you talking about assignment, very disillusioned, very discouraged. I didn't have to talk him off a ledge. It wasn't that bad. But I mean, just at a low point. But when I got down and started asking a lot of questions, it was all about this. You know, when you were living on a sense of assignment, your commitment outlasts your excitement. Everything is exciting at the beginning, but you have to be committed to a process. And this person has done great at ministry, but this person has not been committed to a process of building a system that will unfold, support his ministry. So, you know, there's nothing there. When you're a part of a system, the system supports you. The Bible calls those systems wineskins. And you can't put new Wine and old skins. In other words, God makes me responsible to build something to hold what he wants to do. So whatever it is God's wanting to pour out spiritually, I got to build something in the earth that will hold it. And you can't take a new and put it in an old habit. You can't do that. So, in other words, my responsibility is to understand that the things of heaven are eternal, but the things that I build on earth are subject to change. And sometimes what worked for me in my last season, I have to deconstruct it and reconstruct something else for a new season. And that's what I was trying to communicate to him. Why? Because he didn't have a sense of assignment on his life. After the excitement wears off, the commitment was never there. But if you know you are on assignment, you will put your hand to the plow and not look back, and you'll plow as hard as you have to. And anybody that's ever built anything knows there's times where you just have to be committed and you're not excited anymore.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

So anyway, that's my first comment back on that.

I love that man. Just starting off. Just starting off with that fire.

Yeah.

Going into that. So talk to us a little bit about how to. How do you find your assignment? What does that mean for those that are maybe just got saved or, you know, they're in that they're an entrepreneur for a while and they want to be on assignment. They want to be used by God, but they're not familiar with that.

Is.

Can you explain that to us?

How spiritual can I get on this podcast? Let's go all the way deep. Let's go. Because that's a loaded question. But to be honest with you, everybody who's not living in it feels a sense of deficiency. So it's a great question. Absolutely. I think if everybody felt a sense of assignment, then everything that you do, every job that you have, everything that you have to do, that's a part of your career that maybe is not that fun. It has a sense of adventure to it. If you're just going through the motions, that's not fun. But if you know you've been assigned there, then these people that are getting on my nerves are all of a sudden my assignment. Come on this duty, which is mundane, is all of a sudden my assignment. And God pays particular. Luke 19 attention to the fact that you cared about small things. Despise not the day of small things, for you are faithful and little God Will make you ruler over much. So I always entered every one of my seasons. When I started my ch, I remember my second week, I had 11 people. That's not exciting. I'm not talking about a Bible study. This is my church. My church had 11 people in it. That's not very exciting. But I remember I went in there and you would have thought I was preaching a manpower conference with 10,000 men sitting in it. I was sweating and I studied all week. Why? Because if I show God that I'll take those 11 people and pour every ounce of myself into them, God will give me 100 people. And if I take those hundred people and I give them everything I've got, God will give me 1,000. And I'm going to tell you, that's something that I live by. But I see some traits in this generation that they waiting for their big ship to come in, so to speak, that they don't row the rowboat. And all these small opportunities that God is watching to validate and qualify them by, they let them go. Waiting for the big thing to happen. And so I believe assignment usually shows up as something small. It don't usually a blessing. Don't always show up looking like a blessing, an opportunity. Don't always show up looking like an opportunity. I don't want to take long, but can I give you an example?

Come on, please.

Okay.

Take as long as you want to.

Let me give you what I'm talking about. My wife had a major. She had a major rupture in her intestine in the year 2000. We almost lost her. She lost a lot of blood. I found her in the middle of the night in the floor bleeding. I won't go through all that. But the fact was she was in such a debilitated place after major, major surgery. I canceled everything for one year and said, I'm going to take care of my wife. But there was one date on the books. God would not let me cancel that date. And it was the most unattractive date I had on the books. If there was ever one, I say, I don't want to do that one. I was doing it kind of obligation. It was a friend of the family who had three people wanting to start a church and wanted me to come spend all day with them and mentor them. There was just an old lady at her house. There's no honorarium. You don't get to sell books. All these things you do at conferences, none of that opportunity is there. I knew church planters are usually broke. They're Discouraged. Their marriages are stressed. And I said, I'm going to be exhausted when I leave that day. I didn't want to go, but God would not let me break that one. I went there and it was exactly as I planned. I made my wife a bed in the back of the car so during the drive she could rest. We put her in a bedroom at the lady's house so she could rest. And I went in there and I toiled all day with those church planters. And the marriage is not going well. They don't have any money. They're trying to get things off the ground. Because that was not the era of social media. We couldn't get something together on Twitter. You just had to grind it out. But there was this guy that was there that never introduced himself, and it was almost kind of weird. He just kind of stand in the doorway between the kitchen and he just listened to me. And then when we took a little break, I wouldn't see him. Then he'd come back in at the next session and he'd listen to me. At the end of the day, when I was getting ready to leave, he came up and said, my name is so and so. He said, where did you get your limp? And he wasn't talking about a physical limp. He was talking about, you know, Jacob. God touched Jacob and he limped. And he was talking about basically your humility. He said, you know, I don't listen to guys that have accomplished this, but still their heart is pliable and soft like yours. He said, where did you get your limp? And I talked to him for a moment, and he said, I'm so and so and so. And he said, I'm the editor in chief. And it was the biggest Christian magazine in the world at the time. Charisma magazine. He was in that house. The next month, my church was the centerfold story of the magazine. 11 pages. I still have the COVID of it hanging up in the hallway. And right after that, I was asked to go on TBN full time. When that hit the spread, and that was when my church broke through and went from 200 to about 5,000. And when I'm sitting in this 5,000 seat dome and this building is packed and high praises are going to God and the altars are packed and people are weeping, and, you know, 75, 80 people of service are getting saved. I looked one day and said, how did I get here? And I traced it all the way back to this little lady's house. Being faithful to three little church planters that nobody's ever heard of? When it comes to assignment, big doors swing on small hinges.

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Love one thing on my mind, my heart. Because we're talking about the kingdom.

Has this been all right?

This has been like. This is life changing so many times. I just want to like pause and rewind it. I'm like, wait, I gotta wait on that. So this is what, I'm gonna go back and just study.

Yeah.

This is.

So you are deeply engulfed in the business world. That same blessing, it ain't just for preachers. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

That same blessing. You will close deals nobody can close. The obedience you will have favor with. How did you get his account? Amen. How did you get him to roll over his 401?

Exactly.

How did you do that? No, I can't even get a meeting with that guy.

Yeah.

And come on, man. I love it when God shows up and does things for you. And everybody knows it wasn't you. Everybody said, that's so far beyond Ron. How did Ron pull that off? I am a country bumpkin farm hay hauling boy pastoring in the Silicon Valley. How ridiculous is that? With my southern drawl, I came out here, my boots and my, you know, my big belt and it's just working. It's just working. That ain't me, man. That's. I love it, man. God's good.

Yes, he is.

God's good. But if you seek ye first the kingdom, that's it. That all these things. He adds, and I'm going to tell you something. The more I learn about the kingdom, the less I have to pray about stuff.

Come on.

So I just seek the kingdom and then all this stuff shows up. And I hear people, 90% of their prayer life is about stuff. What they need and what they don't have. I just try to seek the kingdom and the stuff seems to show up.

That's it.

It don't always show up when I want it or when I like it, but it shows up. It does. And so I would tell people this kingdom message is not an in church message. This is get up every morning and command your morning and take those keys and start on your day and watch what go will do in your business.

Oh, my gosh.

You answered my question.

We literally were going to talk to you. We were going to ask you 6:33, the secrets of G of God and his righteousness and the rest shall be added what that meant to you. And it's funny because that was the last question we wanted.

That's all I wanted to ask you.

Listen to what people pray about. They pray about stuff. They pray about things. Yeah, they pray about things. Here, can I give you one more key? I just came up my mind. One more key, please. Okay. The Bible says in second Timothy, it says to pray for those in authority. And I was always talked about, you know, pray for your government officials, pray for your president, pray for your senators, pray for all this and that and that. Pray for those in authority. Things are not floating around arbitrarily in the atmosphere. Everything is under somebody's authority. So when there's something I need, I never pray for the thing. I pray for the person in authority over the thing.

That's so good.

There's somebody that will give the word on your thing. Yeah. Wow. Okay. When it comes to those in authority, I like to be seen. Because you can't have favor with who hasn't seen you. You have to be seen. So I'm always saying, can you get me a meeting? Can you get me in a room with them? Because I just want to tell you the way I am. This is not arrogance. This is all glory to God. I feel like I have a blessing on my life and I feel like if I can get in the room with you, it ain't me you're going to have a hard time turning down. It's that blessing. It's hard to say no for that Thing that came in the room with me. And so I've had many things that should have been a no turn into a yes.

Come on.

Because of who walked in that door, when I walked in the door. And so I go into these meetings. I inherited three buildings here. We don't need all three of them. It's like a quarter of a million square feet. I don't need it. And so one of these buildings would eliminate all the debts. And I finally have a meeting with somebody who's interested in buying the building. You know who? I haven't been praying about the building. I've been praying for those four men.

Wow. Wow, that's so good.

And those four men have the authority of those resources, and I need those resources to be released because for the first time in my life, I want to minister debt free. Wow. All the rest of my days, I want to minister debt free. I want to know what that feels like. So I've talked and talked and talked. This has been good. I just hope I've had. I hope it went where you wanted it.

This is exactly where we wanted it. Yeah, go ahead.

Yeah. Pastor Ron, just for the people that listen, because we have a kingdom, business, ministry, and a lot of people are in a singlehood. Last question. Like this. Is it to end it just for stewarding singlehood? Because you talked about how you met hope and what that would look like. Because a lot of people in our ministry, a lot of people in our. On our zoom calls are wishing and hoping for a wife or a husband. A lot of men and a lot of women. What would you speak on that subject? What's the key for that? What's the key to unlock your spouse, please.

Yeah.

Is there a key for. Yeah, because there are so many people in.

You talked a little bit about Genesis and being in the garden, intending and being diligent.

What's the key for that? The spouse.

And here's the thing, too, Ron. So someone that's on assignment, like, for myself, I am. I barely leave my house. Like, yeah, I saw. Yeah, you're in Miami. I'm like, I take a walk and I'll pray, but I'm on. My schedule's booked. I'm on assignment. So what would you suggest for someone that is really on assignment, that is really focused on seeking first and is in that intimate place where, you know, is there a key? Is there just a waiting time?

What would you say on that? I don't know. Here again, if I could take you to scripture and verse that says, here's the key to finding your mate. You know, I don't know that Paul said that anywhere, but I believe there are surrounding principles that can place it in its context. I just believe you never find the right person in the wrong place. It's just impossible.

Yeah.

And some of the places I hear people are looking for their significant others, I can tell you this, I don't know where they are, but they're not there. You know, you never find the right person in the wrong place.

That's good.

Another thing is, and I know this sounds so cliche and it's probably been said at every single conference in America, but it's so true. I think there is something about getting yourself to a place where you bring value to the relationship. A lot of people go into a relationship for what they can get out of it. Not understanding. The only thing that relationship that makes a relationship successful is what you can bring to it. If you go into a relationship with what you need out of it, you have already had a death sentence over that relationship already because you're going to it to pull from it. And there is no relationship that can survive when one side of it is. When one side's doing all the taking and one side is doing all the giving. It's like an ATM machine. You can go make withdrawals all day. Sooner or later it's going to say account empty if you don't ever make any deposits.

Oh yeah.

And so what I would tell people if Ron Carpenter was doing it over again because I didn't have a lot to bring to the relationship. I was very moral, I was faithful. I'm not going to cheat on you. I'll keep the fidelity of the marriage. I'll put you first. But as far as having my life structured where I can take care of you, I didn't have that. I would do that over. And I think people sometime are looking so much at what a relationship could bring to my life, they're not looking at the way they can make the one they have whole. So turn. I think there is something to that person finding you. Once the things of your life are in place enough to where you have everything you need to sustain the relationship long term. I don't mean all the money you'll ever need, I don't want to talk about, but the structure in your life, the wineskin, the understanding of what a man is, the understanding of what a woman is, the understanding of biblical function as to how this household is to function. When you start getting all those things in you and it becomes a Part of the culture, the way you live, the way you see a woman, the way you see a man, then I think you have such a greater chance of finding that significant other. So they used to say it, make sure you're whole before you try to give yourself somebody. You know, that was all the singles conference stuff. But there is something about getting your stuff together. Because I see people heading straight into a marriage and they are a ball of chaos. A ball of chaos. And instead of being married, they almost want to be rescued. And I've seen it on both sides, men and women, they almost want to be rescued or they want their holes plugged. I know emotionally, before we marry people that are close to us, we have a ministry place that we send them to. Why? Because this ministry place that we'll send you to will try to identify the deficiencies of your upbringing and make sure that you understand that God is your provider. God doesn't just provide your physical stuff. He provides all of your soulish needs. This is a whole nother teaching. But you got to understand, when God put you in a house, he put you in a house and he assigned your mother and father to take care of all of your emotional needs. Not just make sure you got lunch and got a backpack, but to make sure. Security, affirmation, confidence, all these things, those are supposed to be in the parental assignment to invest in the kid. Whatever. Those things that kid didn't get, you don't just abandon them. They take them into the big house. The big house is called life. And those unmet needs create longings. Yeah. And when those longings start driving your decisions and your relationships, there's a train wreck waiting to happen. And so we send people to make sure that God meets the longing desires of a person's heart. God is the only person. He restores my soul. And so we send them there. Why get this together? So that when you say, I give myself to you, all of you is there to give. There's some people so fragmented by relationships and by soul ties and all these other things that when they say, I fully give myself to, well, they ain't fully there to give. So that's what I'm talking about. Getting yourself together. Not, you know, get your job and your career. I'm talking about get you together where you don't go into a partner and suck the life out of them for what you didn't get when you were being raised. You turn all that on them, you can't do. You got to turn it on God.

Come on.

And then anything Your spouse gives you is icing. You don't make the spouse be the cake. You let the spouse be the icing. If they give you affirmation, it's the icing. But if they never get it, I've already got it from God. Come on.

Exactly.

You see what I'm talking about? Yeah.

Last. Last one. So with the relationship, our fourth last one.

Go ahead.

No, no, sorry.

No, I gotta get it. I gotta be laughing.

Okay, okay, you guys, come on. I know they're not gonna be mad. So we talk about un. Unequally yolked. And we talk about assignment. How. How important is it to find for.

For.

For the men or. Or the women? How. How important is it to find the right one that fits the assignment? Where there's alignment there. And. And would the person. Is the person going to be as, you know, let's say you're very deep and you really, really love the Lord. Is it acceptable to date someone or marry someone that is not as on fire? You believe in. They can. They can bring them on fire.

I heard somebody say one time, don't marry a project. Everybody's a project. I don't know any complete packages walking around out there. I'm not a complete package. My wife's been working on me 35 years. I'm not a complete package. It's important to know that if you were to come to our marriage conference, we've done 23 years of them. I would love to. I have a thing that I talk about, life rhythms. I do believe it is all right. And there might be some ministers that vehemently disagree with me to date people that are not on the same spiritual place. My wife was a seasoned Christian. I mean, my wife had been working all summer before she came to college, you know, at a Christian television station and youth camps. I mean, she's like the Christian girl, man. I was a bodybuilder doing roids and hair down my back, heavy metal T shirts all cut up. And, you know, I was saved, but that's about it. And I don't believe you get married on different planes, but you can date on different planes and see if the hunger ever arises and that person to want God and love him like you do.

Come on, let's go.

I wanted to love God and I wanted to know God. And my wife was patient with that hunger. My wife discipled me a lot, just in the simplicities of a Christian because she was so much further ahead of me. You know, she would go to word of faith conferences and Kenneth Copeland, stuff her mama as a 12 year old, sitting there and take notes and stuff. I was 12 years old. I didn't want to be anywhere near church. And she recognized that. And so, yeah, I think you're going to date people and find they're in different seasons. But by the time you're ready to put a covenant on it, you need to be at the same place and you need to want the same things. I call it the law of attraction. The law of attraction catches your eye. There's nothing wrong about it. Nothing fleshly, nothing simple. I liked my wife because she was beautiful. She was beautiful and she caught my eye and I went all over that campus to find her, and I found her. She was beautiful. But after the law of attraction, the law of compatibility, that's what causes something to stay together. And it's called life rhythms. Let me say this, and I promise this time I'll quit. Marriage is the most ironic relationship on the planet. Because most of the time you have enemies, you have acquaintances, you have partners, you have friends, and everybody's in this box. And marriage is all of it. There's not another relationship like that. Let me pull these two out. Partners and friends. You create friendships out of your likenesses. Your friends are guys that pretty much like the things you like. Yeah, you know, y' all like the same ball team, y' all like the same. Y' all like action movies. You know, you both like Mexican food. You know, you got all these things that you share, which are commonalities, and it forges a great friendship. I think I talked a little bit about this at our dinner. But then marriage is the perfect partnership, and people don't understand. Partnerships are formed not out of likenesses, but out of differences. And partnerships are usually where I tell people that marriages go to war because they're the area where you're not alike to the area where you're not the same. And so we make it a battlefield. This gets on my nerves and I hate it every time you do this and you're so structured. Yeah, but you're so free spirited. And the fact is, my wife is a free spirit and I have very defined lines and she keeps me from being bored and I keep her grounded. And it is a great partnership. If I didn't understand that, we would be at each other's throat. Yep. You see what I'm talking about? Yeah. I'm a money maker, she's a money liquidator. And that's a great partnership. It's a great partnership, and I'd say That if she was here, she'd laugh. She'd hit me, but she'd laugh. I'm a visionary. She grinds details. And those are two different personality types that usually don't hang out with each other. I'm visionary, she's administrative. Administrative people drive visionaries crazy, and you know what I'm talking about. But I realize, man, she sees what I don't see. And she's got my back. She's got my blind spot. And there's so many times she's bringing things to the table, and I didn't even see it, and I wasn't even aware of it. She's got it right under her bead. And so I have realized the places where we are different is not the place where I go to war, but it's place where God has brought her to minister to me and brought me to minister to her. And we have to embrace each other for that. Like she told me I told y' all the other night, I said, one of the greatest compliments she ever gave me is I said I was kidding with her. I said, why do you love me so much? She got serious, and she's kind of a jokester, so this was kind of a little bit off. She said, you know what one thing I love about you? She said, ron Carpenter, you always have a plan. But then we went on to talk. She said, that used to drive me nuts. I go on vacation, I want to plan it out. She didn't want to plan it out. Let's go ahead and see what we want to do. Well, see, that's where people start fighting and bickering and arguing. But she realized that thing in Ron is a great trait, and it's one I do not possess. So she embraced it as a gift that God had given her in me, that run forget. Call Lynn, tell him you ain't coming today. Let's go. So and so. That used to grate me when I was dating her. You know, I had a Greek test. Next day, I got to go study. Let's go to park. Let's go get a pizza. Let's go to park. Babe, I can. I got to go. No, let's go to park. Well, I'd make a B just to go to the park with. You know what I'm talking about. Because she just kept that element of adventure that without, I'd have been so boring.

Yeah.

But she is not going to let it happen. There is a level of the unexpected she keeps alive in my life. And it used to grate me and now I couldn't live without it. So life rhythms, by the time you marry, your seasons need to be colliding. You may meet each other in different seasons. 2. I do understand this. Love at first sight, but date long enough to see somebody in several different seasons.

Come on.

I love that. And then thirdly, after you've been attracted, be very honest with yourself. Are you compatible? Because as I told y' all at dinner the other night, if you're attracted to each other but you find out you're not compatible, that person becomes unattractive very quick. Yep. And compatibility, you know, your mom. You know, you had a mom and a dad, and your mom did everything. She was raised by a single mother, and it was every man for himself. Those are two different life rhythms. You're Catholic, she's Protestant. Those are two different life rhythms. Do you see what I'm talking? And those things matter. And sometimes you can be so attractive, so attracted, you're blind to that. No, you got to confront those things. You want kids. They don't even want kids. Or they want a bunch of kids. But you were an only child. All these are life rhythms. And these things during the courtship process need to be talked about at length. And when me and Hope had had a million talks over three years of dating. You ain't got to date three years. We did because I wanted to finish college. But after we did 90% of our life rhythms, you know, we're compatible with each other. So we went on and took the next step. A covenant. But lack of compatibility can rip a covenant apart. And so those are the things I would kind of affirm in those that are dating to look for in other people and give it some time to see if this person is right for you. So they are friends and they are partners as well. Is this really the last one? Go ahead.

Yeah, I'll close it out.

Is this like, the longest one ever?

Yeah, maybe.

Yeah.

Yeah, this is. This is probably.

We just honor you and thank you so much for being on here and just opening up your church and be hospitalizing us or hospital heavy hospitality opening up for us.

Hopefully not hospital. I don't want to hospitalize.

There's the key for that. Yeah, there's the key for that.

No, but if you want to reach them, go. It's Ron Carpenter on Instagram. Yeah, right. And then RCM Ministries, if you want to send any offerings or tithes.

You know what? Can I promote it right here? I love for him to download the. The AI app. I got an AI app. If You've got guys that complain about it. I'll let you explain it to them. I ain't going to do all that now. They're going to do that. But it has gone into my entire 30 year archive and studied everything that I say, everything I believe, everything I've preached, everything I've prayed, and it can come back out and be a huge discipleship tool. So you basically ask it any question you want. If it's within my repertoire, it's going to turn back around and encourage you with an answer. We just created it. I don't know of another minister that's got one. It's free. I did see a life coach that had one and he charged a dol question. So, I mean, I'm getting. You're doing this for free? Leadership, ministry, everything. I would love people to have it. It's just called Ron Carpenter AI and if they would like that, I think it'd be a great tool that maybe I can be a voice. You can't get ahold of me at 2:00 in the morning, but you can ask it. They have something to tell you. So other than that, I just appreciate you guys being here and we've talked about maybe popping in on everybody in the future every once in a while. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. And you guys, for those that are going to be at our event in God is Love event, you'll be able to see him because he'll be with us on that Friday. So till the next time, anointed ones, ao, let's flow.

Thank you.