Ron + Hope: Unfiltered - Can you go the distance?

Here we are, guys. Right back at you. It's Ron and Hope. Unfiltered, Real, raw, relevant.

This is what marriage is. It's lipstick. When did you drink my tea?

A little bit ago in the office.

Go ahead, tell them what it is. Go ahead and tell them what it is. Real.

Already did. Real, raw, relevant. So, yeah, I did. I forgot to take the lipstick off.

Yeah. She can't be incognito with the take.

Your lipstick off of the straw when.

You steal our drink without our knowledge. And I like you drinking after me anyway. Cause you backwash. Remember a couple of episodes of you.

Go to my backwash. But no, I don't. So, anyway, we are glad that you're here today. We got some fun topics. But you know what? Today's not that fun. Today.

Challenging day's challenging.

It's really about how to sustain success and how to go the distance in life. You know, I think that's one of the hardest things we all, most of us start out in life like raw. We're going to do this. We're going to jump into this diet, we're going to jump into this new business, we're going to jump into this project. Little life happens, but yeah, then boredom sets in. Frustration sets in. Burnt out. Yes. Tired. Money problems, finances. So how do you go the distance? How do you end strong? I want to end strong.

And every one of those things you talk about, every one of them has to be managed.

Yeah.

Because you keep the goals, you keep the dreams in sight, but you got to manage everything that life brings your way. Because you will not be dealing in your 50s with what you did in your 20s. You'll not be dealing with in your 40s what you did. I mean, all these different seasons, you're headed in the same direction, but it's like going through terrain. You go through rain, you go through wind, you go through sand, you go through desert, you know, so it's all on the way. But I got to be able to manage the heat, I got to be able to manage the cold. I got to have the rain, I got to have the snow. That's kind of what life is. How do I stay on the road but manage all the seasons?

Don't derail.

Yeah. Don't stop, don't quit. Don't fall apart. And got to give a little bit of credit where credit is due. We just had a couple of days recently with John Maxwell. Yes, it was glorious. And he talked really, he talked about some of these things in a way where it would be really Slanted to lead pastors. We don't want to do that. No, we want to take it and we want to rework it and put our own wording into it, to just talk about life in general.

It's easier to get married than stay married than to stay married.

Okay, here's what I used to say years ago.

What are you talking about?

Wonderful, wonderful friend and in some ways a mentor of mine, Bishop Tony Miller, who's gone on to be with the Lord. He made this statement back in the 90s. I'll never forget it. I've quoted it a thousand times. It's easier to obtain than it is to maintain.

Yeah, so true.

It's easier to obtain. And I've used this analogy. You got people in the hall of Fame, you got people who win the Oscars, you got people with a PhD. The people with PhDs, they didn't go to class one time. They went to class over and over and over again for many, many years. And after that, after they sustained it, their goal was met. A person who's in the hall of Fame, they didn't hit a home run one time.

Right.

They hit a home run over and over and over again over a 15 year period.

Very consistent.

So that's a little bit about what we're aiming. Flash in the pan. Life, not life was good in my 30s, but it sucks now, you know, but we are seeing baby doll, especially in ministry. We see people that are actually ministers and then we see people that are actually in our churches, in our flock. We see people coming off the rails, we see people taking hard falls. We have had own cup of sorrow touch our house when we woke up the next morning. And you, if anything would ever be the same again. And so these will chop you down a notch. Chop you down to a stunt.

We call it. When life happens.

Yes, when life happens. And so we're not talking to you out of something we got out of a book. We're talking to you out of many experiences with people that we love.

Right.

And then we're talking to you some even out of our own experiences. How? By the grace and the mercy of Almighty God. Even in the most difficult of circumstances that happen in our life, our family and marriage, somehow God let us keep the wheels on the rails. And we're still moving this day.

So what are the underlying qualities that help you keep going when life happens and when you do get derailed? Because I think we got to just hit that myth that you can go through life and life never touches you. You can go through life and you never have bumps in the road. You. You can go through life where tribulation and trial doesn't hit your house. I just don't believe Jesus talked about that. That's even realistic to think.

Jesus talked about that in Matthew 7. He said. He said there's two houses. He said, there's a man that builds on the sand. He said, there's a man that builds on the rock. Nobody knows what the house is built on. Cause you can't see it. All you see is cosmetics. All you see is structure. And cosmetically and structurally, both these houses look fine. Yeah.

It didn't talk about the house acting. That is what it looked like.

Exactly.

Talked about the foundation.

But one, the man who heard the word, but he don't pay any attention. That's sand.

Yeah.

The man who hears and does the word, it becomes his lifestyle, becomes his faith. Says he built his on the rock. And here's another thing. Neither were exempt from storms.

Neither.

So just because you got saved, just because you got saved on Easter and everything has not been fixed in your life, right, Just because, you know, you've accepted Christ, nobody is exempt from storms. My storm may not be yours, but everybody's going to have them. It's not. It's not an issue or a question of whether or not you're going to have a storm. It's a question of whether or not you'll be standing when the storm is coming.

Can you get back up? You know, though, a righteous man falls seven times, but he gets back up, makes him righteous.

Not the fact that he didn't fall, that he failed, but. But that he got back up. Every time I saw Michael Jordan at a quote a while back, he said, I failed. I failed. I failed and I failed so good. That's why I succeeded.

That's so good.

I thought that was so powerful. In other words, no failure stopped him.

I think people think being successful is that you never have a failure. And that's just not true.

And we talked about the quote from Bill Gates. To talk about Bill Gates. I don't know anything about Bill Gates. So don't. You know, don't. Don't judge me on that. I'm just. It's obvious he's a. He's a brilliant man. He said this. He said, success is a lousy teacher. That's a powerful statement from one of the richest men in the world. He said it's a power. He said it's a lousy teacher. He said, because it trains you that you can't lose. And I've probably experienced that. You know, there was a day where God was so good to redemption. It was like everything turned to gold. If we did it, it succeeded. I didn't think that was me. I didn't think. But we just as a people, it was a strong thing God had built. And no matter what community effort, it was just. And I remember we built an Imagine Center, $5.7 million because I just wanted to keep creating community. We had all these big events, were Christmas bits and July 4th events and we were just that church that was serving the community. Well, I wanted another place. And we did that in 09. Well, 2010, the recession hit.

Yeah.

And this big, strong worldwide global ministry. We were inches away from declaring bankruptcy.

Right.

I remember, I mean inches.

I remember the phone calls.

I Remember laying off 17 single moms in one day and cried. And I mean, I felt like the devil. I mean, I went home, you came.

Home and put your head in my.

Lap and I wept. And so success is kind of a lousy teacher. Because if I look back, as much as I hate this, I've probably learned more from pain than I ever learned from a victory.

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Talking about sustainable success. Talking about two houses. Talking about both of them have the storms, but one house is able to sustain the storms and one house gets wiped out. Let's just throw two or three things out there. Stay with us. Because actually these are not deep. Pardon me, but we talked about before we started the podcast, I said, this is going to be challenging. Throw the first one out there. The first step to sustaining success. I want to end well. I don't want to come off the rails. I don't want my life and family to fall apart. I don't want to be debilitated in my later years. How do we do that? I tell you what, I'll take the first one.

Okay.

I think we need to be self. Aware. I talked about this with both staffs yesterday on both coasts. To be self aware, that's so hard. Define that.

Do you understand how hard that is?

Very hard.

To look at yourself in the mirror and say you suck or you're lazy or you have no discipline. You know, we have self talk, so we want to talk to ourself and we even tell ourselves how awesome we are.

You've got pop psychology to tell. To say good things to yourself, tell yourself good things to you.

Positive affirmations all the time. And I believe in it. We believe in it. It's faith.

But when I'm talking about, I'm looking at you right this camera right here. To be self aware basically means do you know you. Do you have honest conversations with yourself and most people I'm just going to tell you do not. And that is hard to do. Even somebody who is aware of it and tries to. It is hard to have honest conversations with yourself because let me tell you why. We judge ourselves on intention, but we judge everybody else on action.

Yeah, we do.

So we judge everybody else on what really happened, but we want everybody to judge us. Well, it was in my heart, you know.

Yeah. It's even like saying, well, God, I want you to get them, but God, I want you to give me mercy. God, give me mercy, but make them pay. It's kind of the way we are about being self aware.

Self aware means you gotta be honest with yourself. I'm 53.

You look good, though.

Thank you. I'll take that right now. Anything now. Like, I'm very aware that you look good. You need to quit rubbing me like that anyway, 53 years old, I'm not proud of this. I probably mid-40s, last seven or eight years, have probably had the most real conversations with Ron. With Ron. Are you honest about your blind spots? Okay, honest about these are my dominant strengths and these are my dominant weaknesses. Are you honest with yourself about what it's like to work with you? What is it like to be on a team with you now? What is it really like? What is it really like to be your friend? Is it a weight? Is it a drain? And these are not conversations where people are having to call you out. This is the way you talk to yourself. That's self awareness. I believe great leaders are self aware.

Putting yourself in their shoes.

Exactly right. And I've always said this, have these kind of conversations with yourself so somebody else doesn't have to.

Oh, that's so good. So somebody else doesn't have to embarrass you.

Yeah, so somebody else call you out so you're honest with yourself. So just let me give a few examples. In my own life, I communicate to millions now. So in my mind, okay, God's given me some gifts and over time God's helped me to become an effective communicator. But people in the office get frustrated with me because I don't communicate well. I'm not good with emails, I'm not good with timely responses. Now 10 years ago, I don't know that I'd admitted that. I would have said something like this. Well, you don't know my schedule.

Wait a minute.

Yeah, that's right. Take it, do it.

What now? What did you just say? I'm not good at what?

I'm very adept at computer skills and I'm great one on one with people.

Are you good with emails?

No, no, I'm not.

Do you get back with people real good. You're better, Ron.

I respond, I respond, but I'm not.

Let me turn this off.

I was trying to get all the good stuff. No, you're not gonna get me on video and hold it against me and make me give you money.

But Ron, you have gotten better.

I know, that's what I'm talking about. I've been self aware, I've had honest conversations. But what? Ten years ago, if I would have told myself, well, nobody's as busy as I am.

Right, right, right.

I would have defended. I would have defended or justified, justified that behavior. But the fact is I need to be a more effective communicator because it frustrates everybody when it's in my mind. And I think because it's in my mind, it's in theirs. And so I've had to learn these things that I do not like are important to effective and efficient running of a ministry. And so I've come to the place, you know, I'm not good at this. I'm not good at this. I'm pretty good at this. I'm not good with ideas. I don't know why. I don't know why God let me lead a ministry, because usually great leaders have great ideas. I usually am not the idea guy. I hope somebody else in the room has the idea then. I'm an implementer. I'm good.

You can put it in its place.

I can put feet to it. You give me an idea, I can put feet to it. But I usually don't come up with the idea.

Thank God for a good team.

Yeah, if you put me in a think tank room, I probably don't contribute much, but when somebody comes up with a great idea, I can have that thing rolling in a week. So I have to understand these are my strengths. These are my weaknesses. Self aware. I had to learn with you that you can win an argument and still lose.

That's so good.

When we used to argue, I didn't want to quit till I was right.

Or you knew you were right. You said you just wanted me to say you were right.

But I mean, now I realize that's not. But you lost. I realize that's not necessarily a strength, that I can win an argument.

Right.

It may be a great weakness because sometimes it just don't work.

It's not worth it.

It just don't work.

It's not worth it.

And unfortunately, I wish I could say 28 and 35 and 37. I knew these things, but just knowing what we went through in our timeline.

Probably mid to earth, this color right here.

Are you even listening to anything?

I am, but I'm so enamored by how good you look. Three and this silver fox right here, I think. Silver fox.

You told me it was white.

Equals wisdom. Okay, so y' all listening?

Don't have the grade yet. Listen, I'm trying to be real raw and relevant. I'm being real, doing this right here. Okay, but self aware. What would you say? Okay, I've been honest. I've told about three or four areas of my life where I stink. Okay, what's the place where you've had to become self? Aware? Meanie. Let me help you, Meanie.

I can't think of any right now.

You can't think of any dominant weaknesses. Maybe that's your dominant weakness that you can't think of any dominant weaknesses.

No, I have plenty, actually. I have a notebook of my weaknesses that I work on. But I would say overarching of my life. The number one weakness I have had in my life, and you will probably say, yes, and amen has been discipline. I would say that had been because I am very creative. I'm artsy. I was a musician, singer, and just, you know, the happy go lucky.

You are a free spirit. You are a free spirit.

You know, just what am I going to do today? And what do I do? I want to exercise in the morning or in the afternoon. Do I want to exercise at all? You know, what do I feel today? So I think over.

And you married Mr. Structure.

Yes. Oh, that was a conflict waiting to happen. But I think in my life, I embraced that that was who I was and did not want to work on.

Discipline instead of an area of change.

Instead of an area of change. And so over my life, I have tried to become even like, okay, time I'm getting up. This is when I'm going into the office.

You had changed that. You changed a lot in that I.

Have become more disciplined.

Yes, you have.

The older I've become.

Well, let me ask you. Can I ask you another question? And I don't even know the answer to this. I'm asking you because you're going down a good road here. When did you start challenging yourself in that area? So when did you come aware? You know what? I don't need to justify this.

When the fell apart.

Okay, mid-40s, early-40s.

Early-40s, when I was like, you know what? Clearly what I have been doing is not working. So I had to back all the way up and really evaluate, you know, the people. You know, how people who say, well, that's just my personality. Just because it's your personality at that point.

I probably heard you say that back in those days.

That's what God wants you to be. I believe our personality develops from the way we were raised, our experience.

Fruit of the spirit.

Yeah, what you put in you, who you surround yourself with, so you can't use that excuse. So I had to back up and say, who really am I? Who is hope? And where. Where is hope weak? Where is. Where am I missing the mark, you know, of the call of God on my life? And I had to say, you know, what do I need to start doing and what do I need to stop doing to be everything that God's called me to be.

How did you. Where did you find the power to change? Because being aware and journaling things and it still is not change. No, it ain't change till you change it. So how a lot of people say, okay, I've done the. I've done the reflective part. I've done the introspection.

I had to hate where I was and desire something. I had to hate where I was instead of embracing where I was and making excuses for where I was. I had to want change more. I had to want to be better more.

So the power, the pain of staying the same had become greater than the pain, pain of change. Yeah.

Yeah.

So in other words, you looked at change and it became.

Because where I was wasn't good and it was going to be hard either way. Stay there, all these terrible consequences or be in pain to change and get good results.

Because I think the power to change is where a lot of people would say, I'm willing to look at myself, I'm willing to write things down and change challenge. But then the actual power to change a personality and lifestyle and attitude and way of thinking.

It's not quick, it's not easy. It's a lifelong process of growing growth.

It's a never ending journey.

Doesn't happen quickly. It's like a child born into the world. I mean, it takes a long time to grow and to change. And growth hurts.

I could more than just a muscle.

To grow a muscle, you have to.

Put pressure on it over time to.

Make it grow consistent consistently over time. Consistent pressure.

People ask me, they say, pastor, you know, I can tell physically you try to take care of yourself. I'm grateful that because actually I work very hard to take care of myself. But they say what? You must really work out hard. I really don't work out that hard. I tell them, I said, the thing is, I don't miss.

That's so good.

It's not that I go in there and I'm doing these Terminator workouts. No, I don't walk out and can't walk holding on to stuff and burned out my muscles fatigue. I don't work out, but I don't miss so good, man. It's the consistency of the fact that I don't miss. And so the long and short of it is self awareness is a big key. Let me say this one more time, okay? Having honest conversations with you so that nobody else has to.

That's good. What's another one? I would say accountability. That's exactly Ron. That's what I was gonna say accountability.

Accountability. We talk about these things all the time.

Seriously.

We just don't do this on a podcast.

Being able to go the distance. That's what we're talking about, being able to go the distance to be successful for a long time. Not just one month, not one week, not one year over your lifetime. And I would say your circle is so important. Really? Your circle is so important.

A wrong one can just, ah.

You know, your mom and daddy, My mom and daddy, they're country people, so they would say, you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas, you know, you. They had all these funny sayings, but birds of a feather flock together.

The Bible's almost. Bad company corrupts good character.

And that always intrigued me, that scripture, bad company corrupts good character. You would think that the good. Right. Would go in and change the bad, but it's the bad. That's usually not how that can change the good. So you can't say, well, I'm just going to go in there and spread my light and I'm going to go in there and change this. Man.

Most people get their light put out.

Yeah.

When they. When they do that. Accountability is not just an accountability mentor. I appreciate everything. Promise Keepers back in the 90s, I mean, trying to find someone. And whenever you're about to watch porn or whenever you're about to call someone, call some. Or, you know, whenever you're about to do that, you know, call your accountability partner. I appreciate all that. There's nothing wrong with any of it, but in my life, there was never somebody when I was getting ready to sin.

Right.

I mean, it's just not. And so there. When I say accountability, I'm not talking about necessarily a person. I'm talking about your spouse.

Yeah.

My marriage is my accountability partner, which means my wife cannot be surprised when I reveal a struggle. Especially, ladies and gentlemen, if your man ever comes to you and reveals struggle, don't drop your jaw.

How dare you.

Because he just told you the last one he ever will. So Hope had to earn that trust over time. But my struggles, usually I bring to you.

Yeah. And then vice versa.

Vice versa.

You have to be willing to accept what your accountability partner is bringing to you. The flaw, they're saying, if I came to you and said, ron, I really want to talk to you about something. I see this in you and it's, you know, it's really hurting me or it's harming your leadership.

This ain't going anywhere.

Yeah. And you can't be defensive. You have to know that they love you and they want the best. I remember several times in our marriage, I've come to you and you would get frustrated with me and I'd say, ron, we're on the same team. I'm doing this because. I'm just telling you this because I want you to be better. And that's hard when you got somebody who is your spouse and you want to put your best foot forward and they're coming to you saying, you stink in this and you're not doing a good job at this.

Let's be real raw and relevant. It's hard for the person you're sleeping with to call you out.

Yeah.

You know, you're my lover and the next day you're. But I'm also calling you a helper. Exactly right. And those are dynamics that have to be managed in marriage. I'll tell you another thing that keeps me accountable. Being a pastor.

Yeah.

I don't. I don't want to disappoint people. I want. I want to. I have to be able to get up in a pulpit with a clear conscience. I'm not above it, certainly, but I've. There's just something about me. If I know I'm not right with God, I lose all my confidence.

Yeah, you do.

I lose all my confidence if I know I'm right with God. I can hit that thing like a lion.

And it's not even just if you're right with God. If you're not right with me, I lose my confidence. Me and Ron have had a bad day or it's Saturday, oh my gosh. And we've had an argument or a tiff, or we're not speaking or whatever. I mean, it can be something small, Ron. I can be in the bed asleep, and it's 11 o' clock at night, 12 o' clock at night, and he'll come tap on me. Hope, I need to talk to you. I got to get. We got to get this right or I can't even go preach tomorrow.

And I honestly can't. I'm just telling you I can't.

I said, now I'm mad at you for two things.

I have no confidence and. But you do get frustrated because I've wakened you up many times over the years. But the fact is, I think you value the fact that stuff bothers me. Yeah.

That you want us to be.

You want to be married to a man that if he's done wrong, it bothers. It bothers him. And so, you know, but being. I've often thought of the things that. Because of what I do for God, what has that kept me from that's good? The accountability that I have, a service unto God and unto his people has kept certain boundaries in my life. Not only that, my accountability to God. Does it. Does it? The word sin means missing the mark. It needs to bother you. I'm not trying to preach, but it needs to bother you if you miss the mark. If I know I have sinned against God, hope I'm just.

You'll stay up all night after that.

I have to get away. You have seen me. If I know. If I know that there's been an area in my life that contradicts the grace on me and the call on my life and the goodness of God on my man. There's a deep seated conviction that comes and I have to make things right with God. So I know people. You may have an accountability partner, you may have a friend or a father or mother in the faith that you look to like that. But to me, it ain't just that. To me it can happen in your home, it can happen in your marriage. It can happen with God about to.

Say God's word ultimately, yeah, is. I mean, it'll smack you in the face. I mean it always holds you accountable. It is a mirror into your heart. And you know, if you're not in the word, I mean, I don't, I don't understand that. I don't understand how you can stay on the straight and narrow, how your marriage can function properly, how you know what to do with your money, how, how you know what, how to live Christian life. If people are not practicing spiritual disciplines in prayer and in the Word, it just blows my mind. But.

Let'S throw out one more. I don't know how much time we got. I was looking for a counter. Humility, Humility. Now this is more of an attitude. Accountability is something you put in place in your life to protect you. Self aware is being honest with yourself about dominant strengths, dominant weaknesses. Humility is a posture. It's a posture of the heart. Ego is like plutonium. It's like plutonium.

We've seen it a hundred times.

When it gets to be me, myself and I. And what about me? When those questions start coming in your mind, talking about going nowhere good, that's going nowhere good. When you start saying those things to yourself. Humility is the answer to ego. Humility is the answer to pride. I define humility as this. I can't brag about it because it's not me how can I be. How can I have an ego about a life that I didn't give me breath that I didn't put in my lungs, a gift that I didn't have myself? Everything I have is stewardship and is a gift of God. And so the way I try to walk in a posture, humble before the.

Lord, it's not about you either.

Is the only. I used to have a plaque on my pulpit, a big wooden pulpit. I had a plaque at the top of it every time I laid out my Bible and my notes, plaque at the top said, it's not about you. And I would read that to myself, and I was getting up in front of thousands of people, but it's not about me. And so I think humility is key. And you can't get up and talk about how humble you are.

That's not humble.

That's pride. So I'm not talking about how humble. I'm just talking about it should be aware. To be aware. An aposture.

I should always say, God, I want to be humble.

Yes. And that you are understanding that every good thing about you, you are stewarding. Yeah. Every good and perfect gift comes down from the Father above. So we are deflecting. It's not mine.

Deflect Glory.

Exactly. It's not mine. Bishop Tony taught me that, too. Deflecting glory. I remember people come up and say, oh, you didn't. I'm like, well, I just. I'm grateful. God is good. God's good. Yeah. God uses me. I always tried to practice, let's let it hit me and bounce off and try to give it to God. Because the minute they tell you you're great and you say, you know what? Don't know that I am great. And my daddy always told me, don't believe all your press clippings. And my daddy would tell you, say, you ain't that good. I remember one time, Hope, my dad, my dad, everybody knows the humblest and kindest man, but my dad would challenge me. And when he saw God beginning to blow our life up, oh, he would challenge me. And I remember one time after. What was it called? It wasn't. It wasn't back to acts, and it wasn't 2:12. Kingdom Momentum. Yes, Kingdom Momentum. I mean, we had had that, I think, Eddie Long, and that was when Myles Monroe was strolling through and we had the who's who of Christian speakers. Place was packed like ants on an ant hill. We were streaming live, and my dad was there. And after it was over, we had everybody's coming up, you know, awesome conference. Man, this was crazy. That was nuts. The way y' all started, started this thing out. I've never. And my daddy come up and looked at me and said, you ain't that good.

He did.

I remember it, Remember that. He said, you ain't that good.

Yeah. And it hurt your feelings.

He just would bring you back. But it was. He knew what I needed.

Yeah, he did.

Because I was getting 100 compliments and.

He actually was your accountability.

He came in and said, I just want you to know you ain't that good. And what was he trying to say to me? God did this.

Yes, he did.

And don't you ever lose sight of that. Ron Carpenter.

So that's really the bottom line, how you can go the distance. You know, many of you listening, got tons of gifts. Self aware, tons of gifts, tons of personality. You got a booming business, you know, you're thriving, but especially if you've experienced.

Success at a young age.

But can you go the distance? I want to be everything God's called me to be. I want to do everything God's called me to do. I want to have everything God says I can have. But I don't want it for this amount of time, you know, I want to be able to go the distance and not just do and have. I want my family intact. I want my kids to love me. I want the people who's worked with me my whole life to say it was a blessing to be in their life. I want that good life, you know, I want the good relationships and we want that for you. So we're just here throwing out some tips for you. Take it, use it. Recap what we talked about.

Ron, three things to help sustain long term success. This is just three simple things. Have real honest conversations with yourself. Self awareness. Number two. And the clock said it's time to quit. Number two, be accountable to somebody, something. Give somebody the right to call you out. And then number three, posture yourself in humility, which means there's an understanding. Every good thing that happens. I didn't do it. It's the gift of God. We love you guys. We appreciate you so much.

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