The Revival You Didn’t See Coming with Guests Red Worship (Part 1) | Ron + Hope: Unfiltered

Hey, guys. I want to thank you for just tuning in again to our podcast. Ron and Hope. Unfiltered, real, raw, and relevant. The life of the party is not here, but I brought some other life with me, and it's usually me and Hope, and, you know, she's the fun one in the group, but I got it by myself today. So I invited some people that are very, very important to me. And this is kind of the core. There are some more people involved, but the core of Red Worsh, and many of you know that Red, kind of short for redemption, we wanted to take. We just believe that we have a great worship culture in our church. We do, or we're trying to have a great worship culture. We're building it, and it takes the right people to build the right worship culture. And out of that has come Red Worship, a record label for those of you that may not know. And out of that has now become traveling dates, has now become. I hate to call them concerts, but worship experiences in other places, all the way across the nation, in New York, just in the last week. And then out of that has become a few nominations, one of the first ones to win some awards. So if you stay with something and you keep grinding and building, God will take your faithfulness on this level, and he keeps moving you to new levels, and that's kind of what's happening. And then we're going to talk to you in a little while, actually, about a worship conference. Not a worship leaders conference, but we're going to have just an experience conference where we're believing God to do something generationally that maybe has never been done before. I want you guys to hang around you. I want to hear you and Hope make fun of each other. You know, just hang on, because there are other things that we need to do besides hearing me and Hope make fun of each other. But she'll be back with me next week on the next podcast. But this is real important to my heart. How you doing, guys? Y' all doing all right? Introduce yourself, introduce yourself. Tell everybody kind of where you're from. Start with you, Andrew. Start with you, sir.

Yes, sir. My name is Andrew. I'm one of the worship leaders. Obviously, with Red, I get to call Redemption home.

You're originally from la, though, right?

Born and raised in the city of Los Angeles, California. Yeah.

Now totally opposite right here.

So I'm Terrence White. I'm from North. I've been with the ministry now, I think about 15 years.

Yeah, we've been together a long time. He still Ain't tired of me after all this time. And Terrence actually is the leader of the record label and the MD Here at our west coast campus. Go ahead, Elizabeth.

Yes, my name's Elizabeth. My name's Lizzie, and I'm from Cottontown, Tennessee.

Cottontown. I was gonna see if you were gonna tell the truth or say Nashville.

Right?

Outside of Nashville, she'll say Nashville. It depends on what setting she's in.

I knew you were gonna call it out.

Either way, I'm from Possum Kingdom. I can't say nothing on Cottontown Kingdom. Anyway, tell them Trinity, and then, yes.

I'm Trinity, and I'm from Sunshine State of Florida.

I live in la, Tampa area. Right. Is that kind of where you're from? And now you're out here on the west coast as well. And like I said, this is the core group of a more extensive group called Red Worship. You say, pastor, why are you doing this today? You needing to fill time? No, that's not why I'm doing it. I am in a season in my life. I'm not an old man, and I'll fight you if you try to say I'm an old man. But I've been around a while, and there's some things I realized in my generation that we didn't do well. And sometimes when we see things kind of like even in our mom and dad, that they didn't do well, we go all the way the other way because we don't want to do that, you know? And I think there was a lot of power, ministry, power experiences with God that my generation not only craved but pursued. And I have a myriad of them. I sat. Last night, I took some of the guys out for sushi last night, nine different people. And I just sat there, and they just wanted to hear stories. I just sat there and told them stuff that I had seen God doing. Some of them were crying, some of them were quiet. And so that was a real part of our culture. But a lot of my guys, for whatever reason, didn't end well. And so your generation saw people not ending well and said, you know what? I don't want to end like that. I don't want to end sick. I don't want to end divorce. I don't want to end when my kids hate me. I don't want to end in a scandal, you know, because for whatever reason, my generation, there was a lot of that that happened to people that were leaders for a long time that everybody loved. And then that ended in some type of great Disappointment. But if. If I can, I'm going to talk about the bad part. I'm owning my generation's sins. The thing is, though, everything that was going on was not bad.

Right?

Right.

We agree the way their private lives were being managed may not have been healthy, but the things that were happening when God's people got together for that whole generation, I saw life changing. Amazing things that have made me who I am. And I'll try not to start crying. I start getting emotional on top of it. And I've had several talks with you guys about, you know, has something gotten lost? Because I see a new generation and the savviness off the charts, the marketing strategies off the charts, social media savviness off the charts, production savviness off the charts. But you can go to a service and leave it and nothing has changed. I don't know that that's a great experience, you know. So I said, there's got to be something that the two generations can come together. And you bring something new that God wants to birth, but you can recapture something old that God never wanted you to lose. And that's what I endeavor to do. So we are going to talk about some of the things that's happening with y' all as far as the song releases and all. Let you do a little promo to this audience. But what say you to kind of the generational thing and are you seeing a resurgence and hunger in Yalls generation for not just great music and production, but I want to see God do something.

Absolutely.

Just go.

Absolutely. I would say to that exact point, not to leak the album title so quickly, but I want to drop a little hint. There is just such a hunger for the legitimate presence of God and we're seeing amongst ourselves or seeing amongst our peer groups and whatever the case may be. Because I think the thing is, like you said, our generation may have been able to see the things from before, but they see the things now. They see the marketing schemes, they see the kind of manipulation out in the salesforce and all these other different places. And so you hear so many people in our generation saying, man, we just want what's real. We want to have something because that.

Other stuff can make it feel kind of greasy. Exactly.

And like you said, I think now, and I think I speak for all of us when we say to come in and nothing shift. It is a waste of time. We got families, we're represented, we got jobs. We got these different things going on.

And so do they.

So they want to come in and experience Something like you said, where they leave and their heart posture is different, their perspectives and their mindsets is changed. And I will say, with what we've seen, we've seen over the last couple Sundays here at the church, we're seeing this congregation more hungry probably than ever before for that.

In an area where they said it.

Would never be happening.

That's the thing. It's where we're at. Where we're at. They say it's just a bunch of atheists and God haters. And the fact is, we're seeing people freaking rushing stages. Absolutely wanting the power of God. Yeah.

So it's amazing just to witness it.

You guys have anything. Trinity, you're a church girl, and Lindsay is. Well, all of you are church guys and a Catholic. So, anyway, Trinity and Lizzy, what do y' all think?

I agree.

I mean, I personally.

Cause you're a church girl.

Yes.

I grew up in the church, and I grew up seeing all of that.

All that stuff.

The laying hands and the speaking in tongues and, you know, people falling out and getting out of wheelchairs and things of that nature. But I think there also was a generation that maybe has missed some of it. Like, even the younger ones, I don't know if they know what's actually available. So while there is some hunger, sometimes there's not. And I think it's our responsibility to let them know, hey, there's more.

I'm gonna have to zip my lips on something you just said. Cause I wanna lean in on that, but I want other people to have a chance to talk. What do you think, Lizzy?

No, I think she's right. I think, like, it's hard to miss something that you've never experienced.

I wanna talk about that.

And so I think, like, so many people that are really our age, I feel like we had the luxury of, like, growing up and experiencing that stuff. So there's always. No matter how far you go from it, for us, there's always going to be that thing that's like, I want the real move of God because I've experienced it. But I think a big mandate for us is trying to get people to experience it. So if they ever live without it, they will miss it. But so many people, they've just never. They've never seen it, never felt it. They've heard songs about God, but they've never felt that move of God.

Can I tell you something before Terrence talks? Because Terrence has another perspective. Terrence is a little closer to Maze than y' all are and raised in church. Daddy a pastor, but then he also with Cheryl Brady, who held you accountable. She held you accountable to the things of God. In other words, not just to get them there, but what do you do when it's there. And I don't know that any of today's musicians are really held to that standard. And I want you to speak to that. But I blame a little bit on what your generation hasn't experienced, not on the worship. I blame it on the pastors. Because the fact is you can't supersede the head. Right? You can only go where the head wants it to go. And here's what I've done. I have preached in a lot of the new style millennial led churches. And I will get in the car and this is. This is the norm. This is not just occasionally, it's frequently I will get in the vehicle that they are picking me up in and they will begin to ask, tell me what they would really appreciate it if I wouldn't do. Wow. Wouldn't do. Wouldn't do.

They don't want you to walk in.

Yeah, yeah. And I get to the place like, okay, why did you invite me? You know what I am? You know what I am. And I'm not sure why I'm here because everything that you just asked me not to do is really the thing, the thing that I function in. And so I can't get up there and just talk. I can't get up there and do that. I'm not built that way. If I got a few thousand people out there, I want to take them somewhere. Yes, sir. And so, you know, if the gatekeeper, the pastor or the church leader, whoever's in senior leadership, if they don't want that and want to take the people there, really, everybody else is just held to a song service. Y' all take care of the music. It's not even looked at as a move at all. Y' all do the music. And that's where I want you to stay. Terrence, a little bit about a woman you were with who understood not just the presence of God, but a move, and how she held you as a minstrel, accountable to that.

Yeah. So I would often. We would often get called into carpet. My background is Baptist, so.

And let me say something right now. White Baptists are quiet. Black Baptists shout.

Oh, yeah, we shout.

So you can go in a white Baptist church and hear a pin drop. So when I went in my first black Baptist church, I was thinking out of that white Baptist concept. And I went in there and they peeled the paint off the walls that. So they were expressive.

Yeah, expressive, totally. But it was predictable church though, right. And it was one of which you knew. I knew when the pastor was going to tune up. In fact, coming to be connected with Cheryl Brady, me and as well as my best friend is now her son in law. We were used to checking out until the pastor tuned up. We knew how predictable service and what it would look like and when they needed us to assist in that capacity. And so working with her, it was all about who can make the ascension. Only those that have clean hands and pure heart. So beyond your skill set.

And she would call y' all out?

Oh, we would get called out. I mean, in every aspect of our lives because it was about substance and depth. So it wasn't about, you're just this great musician that could assist with that because they could equally play just as well as us. And if it just needed to be that, that would be fine.

Yeah.

And so, you know, we would get called out like, you guys missed a moment today, you know, in service because you were function in the capacity of a musician rather than a minstrel. Which means that it probably translates to your lifestyle and what you did during the course of the week or what's going on.

Parents. That's strong.

It really is.

That's strong.

And it grew us up. I also had assistance from a guy from Bakersfield. We talked about that earlier, the late Elder Vernon Chapel.

Oh yeah.

He worked with Kim Clement until, you know, that movement. And we learned because he was the worship pastor at the time, and we would learn from him how to flow and Stewart moments. And it really became more what I did outside of sitting down to those 88s and to embrace a lifestyle. Something else that you mentioned that I think growing up as a PK and having a lot of church experience, I think that there were these leaders in the middle of our. I'm kind of sandwiched in the age of some of these guys that are pastors that I think they were raised in a religious environment where the methods of doing it became desensitized religious behavior. Like, oh, I know how to respond.

I know when to predictable religious behavior behavior.

And so they wanted to go far left from that. Then they went into now what has become religious behavior modernly, which is formulating church and metrics. And there's no move of God that's happening anymore. It's like, how many numbers? What do you do? How do you cause the service to function? Like they're even telling you this is what you preach, this is how you behave with my sheep so that it's a predictable result that's safe for them. That's totally irrelevant to the move of God. I appreciate you because you have time and time again have went past that paradigm to bust and be authentic to what God has inside of you. That's what this is birthed. This is what red comes from. Because I've traveled with you for years, I don't want to take the conversation, but you know what? You would get called, the ones who were really bringing you in. For Pastor Ron, the popular message is the sound and how it proceeds. I'm not going to preach their message.

Good. Because I'm going to preach it at our conference coming up.

That's the birthing of red worship. It's the sound.

Everything follows the sound.

It follows the sound.

You hear what he said? I want to ask you, too, because you all probably out of the group, if we're just honest, are the most traveled. You all travel. Y' all move. Y' all are mobile. He said now, you know, modern, predictable. Is that changing? I mean, beyond. We're not trying to bash people and throw them on, but, I mean, y' all are out there right now probably touching that generation musically more than anybody else. With some of the stages God put you on, is it changing or is it staying like that?

I feel like it's. I never know what I'm walking into. I feel like it's far and few that you find that places where you feel completely free to be who you are. And I do think, like, unfortunately, a lot of the times when there's a mic in my hand, I'm often wondering, can I speak in tongues in the mic right here? That way, can I prophesy in the.

Mic at this place, you're wondering what your lines are exactly.

And I think that that happens a lot.

See, that ain't freedom. That don't. That don't allow you to turn loose. Right when you're wondering, where's my line? Where's my line? Is that the same with you?

It is. Yeah. It's the same. I don't. I mean, like you said, it starts at the top. So I usually take my cue from what leadership is doing. If the pastor is all the way in when we're in worship, then I'm like, are we going?

Yeah.

But if not, I know that.

All right, keep it.

You know, you understand protocol, and you should do that. When I go in somebody else's field. I understand. Okay. What do you. You know, what do you need. What's my assignment? What do you need me to do? And I stay with. I never try to violate what anybody's trying to do. But I have such a hunger because I know how transformative. Like I said, my kids. I tell my kids a lot of times, I said, you know, they were in our church and saw these things happen. But them personally, I said, you didn't have enough of these experiences like I had, you know, those experiences that I had so deep with God. Times where I was in churches. And I remember time. I remember one time, Juanita Bynum was preaching, preaching. And we were at Rod Parsley Church in Juanita. Bible was preaching. This is in the late 90s. 98, 99. And the intense. The intensity, the decibels, the prayer languages going up. And I looked around and couldn't find my. One minute she was standing there. I closed my eyes. I was praising, opened up machine standing there and I don't know where she is. And I looked down and there's two shoes sticking out under the pews. And she has crawled up under the pews. Why? Because we were in a place where we were scared to stand.

Wow.

You see what I'm talking about? The fear of God, right? You know, I hear preachers and cuss words and stuff, and I'm like, you ain't been where God pushed you down on the carpet and you couldn't get up. And you get up with such a fear of God in the room and. And the hunger and passion of my heart now is, man, I want to turn around. I want everybody to know this. I'm looking for those few pastors that are saying, you know what? I'm kind of empty. There's got to be something more. And maybe they'll open the door a little bit. And I'm saying, I can help you with this. Let me get in there. Let me show you what God wants to do. Switching over a little bit, our music. Are we there or are we getting there?

I don't know. That's pretty loaded question.

That is a loaded question. Because I think that has to be our goal. I don't think our goal is right now. Of course we want to be profitable. We don't want to lose money. But I don't think we got in it for riches or to get spins. I think we felt like we've experienced something that maybe others have not had the opportunity to, and we wanted to bring a sound that may cause something to happen that don't normally happen.

Yes, sir.

And sometimes we don't have any bad music, but I do wonder sometimes, have we reached that? What do you think?

I will say this. I have the privilege of working with Terrence a lot on the post production side of, as well as, you know, with the team in writing or whatever the case may be. There's something I will say after listening to this last record. There's an unquestionable DNA that is felt, that is experienced, that I do feel can lead somebody to what you're describing.

Do you feel like with our releases it's building?

Definitely, it is building because, I mean, I was just listening to a couple of mixes yesterday and I just put my headphones on and I. I put my phone down and I was in the room when these songs were recorded and I felt like almost my heart rate start to increase a little bit. I mean, I was just like, oh, my gosh. And I'm being drawn not just back to the place where we recorded it, but into this spiritual realm. And it sounds almost spooky spiritual to say, but the truth is, a recorded record, a MP3 on Spotify can have that effect. And I do think, and I will say, I appreciate Terrence for this. I appreciate you for this. You all demand that of us as songwriters, as worship leaders. And I think with Red, we know we are essentially a soundtrack to what is happening in this house. And our goal and our heart is for that to take place. So I will say. I mean, I don't know if I will say, like, we're there 100%, but I mean, after listening just yesterday to what's getting ready to come up, it's.

Moving in that direction.

It is moving in such a way that you can't deny God is all over this, you know, And I think.

What I would like is, let's say there's a guy saying, you know what? I've been doing this 20 years and, you know, everything's savvy, but, man, I just. I'm not feeling anything. And so let's say that he would look at a redemption service and said, I want to go there. Can he sing our music and go there?

Well, I would say so. And in fact, these are some big.

Questions, I'm not gonna lie.

Yeah. You know, going back to what he's saying, I think that. That, you know, and I do wear a lot of hats. You do, you know, so I have to step from an executive standpoint of what is our return on investment here.

You know, spiritual and natural.

You have to weigh it out. I'm producing it. I'M thinking about that in production. Sometimes I may say, hey, let's pull this back, or what have you. I do think that the body of work that's coming out, presents people, is one of which we were able to catch a genie in the box, so to speak.

Absolutely.

But from a leadership standpoint of always being led by the spirit first, in the same manner that you are just sensitive, you'll take those notes away like you did Sunday. Whatever God is saying, you know, I look at something that ties back into our service that's tying into a release that actually comes out Friday. You guys not trying to promote?

No, but.

No, we want to know. Yeah, it's a song. So it's the COVID Show me your face. Going into Yahweh, we had no clue that this would happen, that it's now over 4 million on TikTok. That was an organic Sunday morning worship experience.

Yeah. That just happened a few days too, didn't it? Yeah.

You know, that was just a Sunday morning worship experience. And I came in service. Yeah. During service. So as we're preparing to release the work that's coming out in March, you know, I came in two Thursdays ago, and it's like, hey, guys, I'm watching this. My spirit is saying, we may need to put this out for people. And I didn't know. I mean, it was, what, 1 million at the time, you know, and it's not about.

But see, that's even getting out of the service. We're trying to let our business be led by the spirit.

Exactly.

Yes.

Yes.

We need to back up on this. We need to go here. God's on this. Yeah, See, that's what I want.

So that's. That's. I think we're finding to what he's saying and everybody, we're now finding a rhythm and the way that songs are being written. What really helped us, I think, was red nights, our red nights of how we're able to just get capture in a room. I mean, it's set up in here, in the middle of a room. People are surrounding us, and that's a very much comfortable environment as we are continuing to ascend and to find those sweet spots of what it looks like. Yeah. So to answer your question, this is something that we're all proud about. This is something that I think really represents the soundtrack and sound of redemption and red, of what God is allowing us to release.

And a little. Just a little. Even on what you're talking about with show me your face, you know, it was written by Don Potter, decades ago. So it points to even what you're describing pastor about. There was a seed planted. There was something experienced from before. And it makes this way. Shout out. Lizzie always trying to be in the. She's always bringing in them songs, but they do. They just do something. And again, I didn't grow up in church, so the first time I'm hearing show me your face, I'm thinking, lizzy wrote the song. And then I, you know, good old Google. And he started, well, this song was written in this context by this man who pillar in worship.

Go ahead.

Funny is I started looking up the song after we decided we were going to release it, and Juanita Bynum released it.

Really?

See, there you go.

I remember that.

I had that.

How long ago was that?

It was. I don't know.

I think I had that on a cassette.

It was in the early days.

I think I had that on a cassette.

Yeah. Like, no more sheets.

No more sheets.

I had that on a cassette. I remember that now. You're right.

I do think, like, we constantly find these little moments where we're reflecting what a generation did before and, like, giving it in a different way, breathing it.

To a new generation in a different way.

And I remember that rehearsal. Cause, like, we couldn't have manufactured what this thing is doing. But that particular rehearsal, she came in and said, I got this old song and I knew it. I remember when it was done back in the day, and for some reason, I just felt the need in the band rehearsal to create an intro and a counter line. And then when they came out, she was like, oh, that was nice what you did. We had no clue, but it was. It was almost done, as if it was going to be a project, you know? And it's just amazing.

And it happened organically.

Yeah, very organic.

Yeah. What's a perfect worship service to you?

Perfect.

If you're invited to come and Lizzy's going to be our special guest lead. Praise and worship. And you say y' all are both sitting there saying, what are my lines? What are my. If you don't have any lines, where are you taking it? This ain't scripted, guys. I'm just. If they look like they've been put on the spot, I'm putting them on the spot.

I think for me, like, I feel like as a worship leader, you always know when you had to, like, push through and kind of use skill in some ways versus when, you know, the holy Spirit just came and the room was moved and you were moved. I feel like when I'M leading. And I can just see that there's certain people crying, there's certain people dancing.

It's having an effect.

It's having an effect. I think that's when I walk off the stage and feel like I did what I was supposed to do.

I think sometimes when you guys feel like, like you said, there's nothing that's not carnal, where I had to use my skill. God gave you that skill. Yes, sir. That's the gift of God. I think what that is is there's something in the Bible, without getting too spiritual, called the breaker anointing. And I think, you know, you got people coming in rooms, you got divorces, you got traumas, you got. I just got laid off. You got. My son just got diagnosed. I mean, you got all this stuff packing out rooms. Somebody's got to break through that. Come on, you got to break through. And that stuff y' all feel on the stage, you're probably breaking through for the people. That's why it's called a worship leader. It's not just a worshiper, it's a worship leader. And if you're not taking them with you, you're not effective. The fact is, you gotta prepare something that the congregation can enter in with. And I this past Sunday, and we'll break this up because we want to talk further. We're going to do this in two episodes, guys. This past Sunday, Lizzy, you weren't leading here. You weren't here. Trinity was leading along with Andrew this week and Terrence was the MD here. I shared a series of experiences that have been happening with me at 3 o' clock in the morning. I won't go into all that now. I don't have time to tell the story, but it happened six nights out of seven at exactly three o'. Clock. The miracle of getting up at the exact same minute six nights is nuts. That's not. There's no coincidence where you can come up with that. And then to be led by God to punch in Myles Monroe's name in my YouTube and. And you know what? I've gone back about six times to see if that would happen again since that. And it ain't happened. But that night I was up at 3 o' clock and I didn't know why, and I punched it in. And a teaching from Myles Monroe come up. My mentor, if you're up at 3am, this is what you need to do.

That's crazy, insane.

And I just said, man, God's talking to me. God's talking to me. And basically talked about 3 o' clock being the fourth watch of the night and being the witching hour. And. And that sometimes the people of God are just ignorant at what is going on in darkness. And that darkness does not want any forceful advance of the kingdom. And that it is a real spiritual war that takes place. And then I go study. San Francisco Bay Area has the highest concentration of witchcraft of any place in the nation. And I'm wondering why all these things are happening. And what I'm seeing is there is an advance and an acceleration and a surge about to come. And the fact is darkness is realized because if you take territory, somebody's giving up territory.

Yes, sir.

And so when they begin to hand out these curses, you have to cancel. You have to announce these curses. Well, I came up and I did this here in the second service Sunday. I didn't even preach in the second service. I just went totally to that. 1500 people emptied out balconies and everything. Ran and stuck on stairs, couldn't get down the stairs and lined up to the things back there. Rushing an altar for the power of God that was being distributed in the building. Okay, all your worship songs then just go out the door. You now have two kingdoms in conflict.

Right.

And you got. The people on the stage have got to manage that move.

That's right.

Those are the types of things I'm talking about that we're going to talk about in the transfer conference that we want to impart. Because that was not a worship service that went into chants and prophetic, that went into straight prophetic. The band's got to know how to go there. They have to know the progression. And one wrong sound can kill it.

That's right. Absolutely.

One wrong, one you are right. You can go minor when you're supposed to go major. You can go major when you're supposed to go minor. And you can kill the whole thing. And so everything had to happen. And it was a moment where all of it came together and God showed out in power. I mean, in demonstration. I don't mean we felt his presence. I mean people puking, getting delivered on the front rows, curses being broken, people from witchcraft crying out and tormented to be set free. And all these things are happening. And that's what. Nobody's teaching that. I'm just going to say it. Nobody's teaching that. The people that are teaching that, most of them haven't heard of them or they're looked at as being fringe. But the fact is, I do believe in America, that God is exposing some things and some demonic structures are being broken.

Absolutely.

And in this, the church is going to make a forceful advance, and we have to prepare for that. How do you go to a rehearsal and prepare for that? I don't know if you prepare for that. I think you just prepare yourself. Does that make sense?

I would say the best way to put it, because I don't think a rehearsal prepares for that. I think you're not overlooking that quiet time in the morning that you. That phone's put away, your family's still asleep, and you're just going after the Lord.

You gotta be tied in.

You gotta be tied in. I have to give Trinity credit on that, because I feel like she's has helped with our prayer.

She's the red worship mother.

Yeah, she's the red worship mother.

And.

Has reminded us that this is no small thing that we get to do, number one. And we are not void of the attack and the resistance that we face that you're describing, because like you said, when territory is taken, somebody's giving up.

Somebody's giving it up, and they don't.

Like it with a fight, and there's such a fight.

And I think on the kingdom suffereth violence. Absolutely. And the violent take it by force. And sometimes there needs to be a forceful advance that starts with the Levites. Send Judah first.

Absolutely.

When you go into battle, send Judah first. And so here's Judah, right? I look back at y' all and say, guys, take me in. Let's go.

Right? And there was a moment on Sunday, you remember this? He turned around and you looked at us, and it was almost like our general was given an order.

Put your mic. Put your mic to your mouth.

And when you move that arm up, I feel like me and Trinity looked at each other like, let me tell.

You what y' all were. And I love our whole team. Now, of course I love our whole team. Y' all were. But everybody else was kind of. The mic was here and they were worshiping, and I had to turn around because I didn't have what I needed behind me. And I can't go out there by myself. And I did turn around, and I wasn't trying to be ugly, but in that moment, I ain't got time to discuss it.

Yes.

And I said, put your mic to your mouth. But that does.

I feel like. And sing.

And I felt. I mean, I just. Wham. I felt it come. Yeah, I felt it come. And then all of a sudden, I felt the authority to go out there. Okay, I'm going to take this Devil on. Yeah, because they got my back.

Yeah, absolutely.

The sound is there, the worship is there. Everything is there. They got my back. And those are the synergy of all of it coming together. It's hard to build. Hey, I've been here seven years, and I just now feel like we're kind of okay. We've about got this thing. We've about got it. It just takes time. So I don't want to frustrate everybody, but I got to wind this one up because we got some people that are helping us out in this, and we got some time constraints. I want to go back into part two, talk about the releases of the new songs and then talk about this idea. We've got to bring two generations together. Can we do that? Yes, sir. I love you guys. I really do. I appreciate it. I need you to talk to somebody and tell them you got to go watch this thing because of stuff they're talking about. If you've got kids, loved ones, or even if you got people within your church, within this age group, and they are leading and they're trying to lead a move of God anywhere, they need to hear these conversations. These are real conversations. And so I want you to know we're believing God is doing something, and we believe it takes a special sound and a special people to bring it about. We invite you into the discussion. So I want you to go back and watch part two of this as we just take it a little bit further. And until next time, it's Ron in Hope, Real raw and relevant. We'll see you later.