When God Goes Silent | Ron + Hope: Unfiltered

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I have a lot of hair, but.

You know, you got a lot of hair. You have thin hair, though. You got hair growing all the way down your forehead like that. You got that. What's that called, a peak?

It's a widow's peak.

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But people who are not thick hair.

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All right, tell them what we're talking about. Well, we're sitting there laughing and cutting up, but we're about to go real serious.

Yeah, I'm sure everybody's experienced this and have looked up into heaven and said, God, where are you? But I said, let's talk about when you can't hear God or when God goes silent. Have you ever had a time in your life and everybody listening is going to say, absolutely?

Well, the Bible talks about heavens being like brass. When the heavens are brass, Meaning it's very frustrating. You can't get a word from God. You have impending decisions and you genuinely want to do the right thing. And it's like. It's like, man, he's not saying anything. And those for people who really. People who really want to follow God number one, if you don't care, then you ain't caring about if you're hearing God or not. But for the people who say, you know what? I only get to live one time. I want to be strategic. I want to hear the voice of God. I want to do what the Lord wants me to do. Because the Bible deals in the broad will of God, but it's the voice of the spirit that deals in the details of your life. The Bible don't say Ron Carpenter, expand to the West Coast.

No. It gives you day to day.

It tells me, love your brother as yourself. Bless you. It tells me how to treat my neighbor. It tells me how to serve God. It tells me about character, integrity, how to use my words. It talks me how to pray.

Principles.

Yeah, those are keys to the kingdom. But it does not tell me the specifics of my everyday life.

What do I do with my kids going crazy?

Yeah. What I do.

What do I do with my finances here?

And so I have to be what the Bible exhorts us to do, to be spirit led. Now let me back up. Okay. I have been accused probably by sex sections of preachers that I'm. Maybe I don't preach as stern as I used to or I don't preach as hard as I used to. And I.

Or is mean.

I don't think that's the case. Here's what I have learned.

I'm so glad you're not a mean preacher.

Well, I don't want to be. What good does that do anybody? I am so glad I told people I said, whenever you're bitter or angry inside and then you have a microphone.

Yes.

All you're going to do is take that and spew it all over everybody.

It's cool to hear it.

Yeah. You just going to spew it all over everybody. And you haven't done a thing for the kingdom. You don't help people when you're just spreading your poison all over the room. So there's one thing that I've come to this realization. I don't tell people what to do and not to do much anymore. I teach the Word. There ain't nobody can listen to my messages and say, ron Carpenter, teach the Word. I'm loaded with scripture, front end to back end in my teaching. But here's what I don't do. Start doing this. Quit doing that. Start doing it. You better do this. You better stop. You better not just teach the word. Because people say we don't like legalism. But you know what I found out? They really do. They really do want you to tell them what to do and what not to do. And here's the bomb.

I don't know that they like legalism, Ron. They want answers.

Let me tell you, the more I tell you what to do and not to do, the less you have to be led.

It's true. But people genuinely, I think inside of them want to do the right thing.

But I don't think my job as a preacher is to give everybody the specifics of their dos and don'ts. My job is to introduce them to God the person.

Yeah.

My job is to cultivate a relationship. That's why we take so much time for God moments in our service. That's why we talk about getting in a flow. That's why I want the Holy Spirit ministering. I want to See tears flowing down people's dreams. Because I'm here to cultivate a relationship with God whereby he gives you your do's and don'ts. During the day he leads you because your set of convictions will be different than mine based on the calling.

You see.

What am I doing wrong?

Your belly's gonna show.

Okay, I'm trying to get rid of my belly.

Looks good.

Trying to.

Hey, but yes, a relationship.

Hey, hey, we'll start that. I've been dealing with that all day.

You don't want me giving you confidence.

Be touching me on screen.

Don't be touching me.

I've been dealing with that my whole life with you.

You are ridiculous.

I want everybody to walk out of the building and hear God for themselves because they hear him, they know him and they walk with him and listen. You live the wife life worthy of the calling that you have received. So my day to day instructions from the Holy Spirit for me will be different than you'll answer somebody else's.

Right? So principles are the same, right? We all supposed to talk the same.

We're supposed to love your neighbors, yourself. Forgive, you'll be forgiven.

You know, leading and guiding on daily, daily things.

Okay, so it's different. Okay, So I believe my job of the preachers may argue. I'm supposed to tell them what they're supposed to do and not. Okay, I'm not going to die on that hill. I'm trying to introduce people to God, the personal relationship and cultivate that. Yes, number two, we're laying foundations here. Then I'm going to talk about, okay, the frustration of. I'm supposed to be led by him, but he ain't talking. I'm going to talk about that in a minute. The second thing is you got to learn that you can hear both realms. You are a spiritual creature, meaning you can tap into spiritual things. And that is real quickly, the story of Peter. You are the Christ, you're the Son of the living God. Blessed are you, Peter. Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you. This has been revealed to you by my Father which is in heaven. He praised Peter because Peter got out of the flesh and tapped into revelation that came from the spirit realm. Jesus waited on them to get a revelation from God of who he was. He was the Son of God. And Peter heard it and Jesus praised his ability to hear. Then Jesus said, now the Son of man must go suffer many things. Peter stands back up. I'm willing to die with you and go to. He said, never, Lord. First thing he said was, never Lord Jesus was put here to die, right? And then he says, I'm not going to let that happen.

Yeah, he tried to give in the way.

And then Jesus says, get the behind me, Satan. Inside of one conversation, Peter heard the voice of God and he heard the voice of Satan and he demonstrated and executed both of them. So I call that the windows of heaven and the gates of hell. The windows of heaven are people. Heaven enters the earth through people. The gates of hell are people. Hell enters the earth through people. And you've got to understand, just because you're born again don't mean you can't hear the other voice. Right.

Or act on it.

So number one, my job is to cultivate a relationship where you can be led by the spirit. Number two, you need to understand, you have to determine origins because you can hear both.

Okay, so people listening to this say, okay, I get that we can be led by the spirit. Okay, how does the spirit lead me? What does that look like?

What does that sound like? That is a multiplicity of responses. I know people that God speaks to them in dreams. We have good friends. Stephen and Laurie reward Stephen. Has God talked to him more times in a dream in a week than I have in 10 years.

And God's never talked to me in a dream.

I don't know, I could maybe point back to one or two times I woke up and felt like God had spoken to me in the night. I'll have to ask God why that's not a method, you know, for everybody, because it almost, you know, with these other guys. I had a dream about you. I don't even have dreams about me.

Right. I don't even.

And I have people call me up from, you know, Ohio. I had a dream about you. I'm like, wow, that has just not been a mode of communication to me. There are other people that say, I got a word. I got a word. If Ron Carpenter comes up to you and says, I got a word, you better pay attention. I just don't.

You don't hear that.

I don't even have the confidence to feel like I hear on that level sometime. And I'm just being honest. That is such a strong statement. I have a word from the Lord for you now.

I do get that.

Yep, you do. You're very prophetic in your insights, prophecy, words of wisdom, words of knowledge. So you're getting into how all does God speak, But that's not the way the day to day. I don't think everybody gets up and sees an angel and they're Drinking their coffee every morning. No, I believe those kind of people. You actually make us look somewhat flaky. I don't think that's real. I don't think that's really how God operates. Here's what I think God gave us senses. For I can smell, taste, hear, smell, see, touch. I named smell twice. But those are five senses. And those five senses, basically God has given me a world consciousness. I know not to step out in front of the bus. The bus is blowing the horn because I can hear it. I don't need the Holy Spirit to ask me, do I step out in front of this bus? Do I go when the light turns green? Yeah, it's common sense. Do I wear a blue dress today? I don't need the Holy Spirit for that.

Want you to wear a blue dress.

And people, you know, people that get over into you remember that girl Hope that walked in in the 90s in our church and God told me to wear sprinkles in my hair today. And I'm just sitting there saying, and I was only like 23, 24 year old passing how God we were like, no he didn't.

Why would God tell you to do that?

God didn't have anything to do with sprinkles in your hair today. Actually you looked ridiculous. You know, God didn't say that about sprinkles. And so when, when outsiders hear that, they thinking, why would God, he's got a whole universe to run. Why is he talking about sprinkles? And so what I've learned is I know not to touch the stove. The Holy Spirit didn't have to tell me.

Yeah, common sense.

I know the fire is warm. God didn't have to tell me so God gave me my senses for a reason. However, he says you cannot let the senses rule you dictate life's decisions and rule your life. Because where there is no vision, people perish. Vision I have to see the unseen means I got to tap into a spiritual realm the way that I believe. Hope I could biblically support. God leads the everyday common day in and day out. Believer is you are lived by your peace.

I agree.

My decisions hopefully are made by my peace of God rule. I've made more decisions out of peace than I have out of a word.

Let the peace of God rule.

The Bible says let the peace of God rule in your heart. And the Bible says when you pray with thanksgiving, be anxious for nothing. But when you pray with Thanksgiving, make your petitions known in the peace of God. Peace that passes all understanding. So when I come up on something. If my peace is disrupted, interrupted, or disturbed, I usually back off when I come up on it. And I feel. Even if I'm scared, not fearful, scared is different. I'm scared because I know I'm stepping out on faith. I'm going somewhere I ain't never been before. You feel those tensions, but you know.

It'S a God thing.

But I know it's a God thing. And one of those was. I go back to expanding to the West Coast. To the outsider, it looked like this. The most ridiculous thing Ron Carpenter could ever do. The impact we have had has not quadrupled. Oh, my gosh.

It's proven we were obedient.

We were obedient. But what we stepped out from, what we stepped out into, it had tension in there because, oh, my gosh, my comfort zones are all being violated. Every comfort zone I had was being violated. But when it came to right here, God's calling me to do this.

So peace is God speaking. It's not an audible voice necessarily. You have to listen for in every instance.

It is the go and the stop of God.

It is peace is God speaking.

It's the go and the stop.

It is the go and the stop. If you have a not a peace, that is God saying no. That's the Holy Spirit on the inside of you trying to get you, trying to pull the reins on you for whatever you're about to do. And we all know that feeling. How many times have we stepped out to do something or do something stupid? And you have that gut feeling on the inside of you when you're like, oh, I shouldn't do this, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

Like hiring somebody and you look at their resume and you do the interview. And in the flesh, the flesh side, all the boxes check.

But you're like.

And then you're going to man something, but you go ahead and do it anyway.

What is the statement we always make?

I can't put my finger on it. I can't put my finger. That's usually the lack of peace. Yep, that's the lack of peace. Meaning God knows something you don't know.

Yep.

And he's trying to keep her from something. You don't want to walk into my track record on that isn't all that good.

I will be honest. I've tried to warn you several times.

You have? I. I love Jesus so much. He's my everything. But I just have this. I have this forward mentality. Keep marching. That has so many times come back and I. Am I doing better?

Yes, you are doing better. You know what you're doing better at letting me be your helper.

I'm aware of it. But I'm. I'm aware of it.

Yes.

I think When I was 37, 38, 39, nobody could tell me much about it if I really felt like I was supposed to do it. Now I. After so many train wrecks, you sit around say, I've been thinking this. What do you think?

You know, so many people call that women's intuition. And I don't think it's women's intuition at all. I think it's a woman who is more emotional in her being, being able to feel and to the hear her gut instead of men who are more reason, logical reason who go to a reason and a in a and totally bypass the gut.

I'll say, I've been thinking about it and I like what I'm thinking. You'll say, I don't feel good about it.

I did. I'll do Ron. I don't feel good about that.

Then I want you to logically, and.

I say, I can't do it and.

You can't do it. See, to me that don't make sense because all the boxes have checked that I said over here, the pros and the cons. I don't even have no cons. They're all pros. And then I hear, well, I don't feel good about it. And that's hard. But I've learned over time, more times than not when you violate that man, you just sooner or later you have a mess to clean up. And so I really have tried to be more aware of my propensity and if you get enough spankings and sooner or later you get it. And I just think I move a little slower and a little more cautious because I also want to make sure it's God.

So peace is. Is God speaking or the lack of day to day?

Okay, let me tell you this now.

What about, what about Ron though, when you don't have anything?

Okay, I'm going there. I don't know that I can back this up biblically. So I'm going to talk a little bit out of experience here. I think the day today, you know, Your meal is $20. Ron, I want you to leave me a $20 tip. I ain't about to leave. I'm going to leave my five. And then you got to get in the parking lot. You got to leave my $20, you know, and I have no peace until I go back I mean, if I drive down the road, I got to turn around and go back because that thing's not going to stop. Okay. I think the day to day in and outs and comings and goings of my life, that is my indicator now. It seems to me somewhat biblically and even in my own experience, the word of the Lord, the prophecies the God spoke to me about. You seem to come at what I call destiny decisions. I don't hear the word of the Lord about, you know, I got two gyms I belong to, do I go to this one or this one? But the word of the Lord about major life altering decisions, they seem to be where God emphasizes and speaks more clearly and gives more in detail. I think that's my experience and I probably could support it biblically if you gave me a little bit of time I want to use. What do you do when you hear nothing from something I got from Bishop Jake's hope? I don't know, it's probably 20 years ago. It's probably 2001, 2002. I've preached it since. I didn't steal it from him. I developed it. He just mentioned it. And I saw that concept and I was like, wow. And I took it. I think I preached three or four Sundays after I took it and developed it. He did one of the most incredible analogies. He probably did it within six minutes of a message. I took it and preached it. A month of the voice of God being like a navigation system in a car. And so here's my development of it. Okay? When we moved to California, we moved to the Bay Area. We knew the Golden Strip region of South Carolina by the back of our hand. I could get anywhere blindfolded. Okay? I moved out here. I didn't know how to drive to my office, right? We had an apartment. I did not know how to get from my apartment to my office. Okay? So you put on the navigation and every time you're coming up on a turn, the voice comes on. Most of the time when you're coming up on a turn in life, he's talking.

Yeah.

But what about those times, like we went to Monterey and then we finally got on 101 and whatever it was, it said 56 miles, okay? Or if you got on 101 and was going to California, it's say 326 miles, long stretch. You're not going to hear anything for a long period of time, but you're.

Still supposed to keep doing.

That's what Bishop Jakes had in his analogy. He said I get nervous when that lady's talking every two miles and then I go this long stretch and I don't hear nothing and I get nervous, am I heading in the right direction? And he said when you're not hearing the voice, keep going straight, keep going straight, keep going straight. Now I'm going to tell you take a turn. My 30 year old self when I heard that that was revelational to me and I took that thing and I studied it and I began to put those principles of the navigation system by the word of God and I preached this whole series about it. But that is so true, Hope. Sometimes when you're not hearing God it's because God's not talking.

Right.

And what do you do? You keep doing what you're doing, what.

You know to do. That's reality.

Exactly right. You keep doing what you're doing because if there's a turn coming he's going to talk because he has committed to lead. Yeah, he's committed to be your guide. So he is my navigation system. And if you tell if, if a turn's coming up and you don't warn me, you're not, you're not my guy.

No.

So God, you're not being a good guy. Exactly. And it's impossible for God to fail. So he's going to talk. Now let's talk about the other reasons. You're not hearing God. Sometime God's talking and you're not hearing.

Yeah, you're not making space for him, you're not inclining toward him. Here is so filled with so many other things. Things of the world, cares of life, all of these things. That's what the word can't plant.

Let me take it back to an old school radio. Nobody, you know, everybody's XM and you know, streaming now but a radio, I remember a radio dial with the fuzz and trying to find it, dating myself now everything's digital. God has a frequency and to hear the voice of God you have to get to his frequency.

Oh that's so good.

He's not going to get on yours. He's there if you want to tune in and you want to talk to him.

That's good.

Hope, have you ever noticed a lot of times in our, our praise and worship services are not music? If people could hear me when I'm talking to our praise and worship guys in our band, we're setting an atmosphere for the miraculous. We want God to come, we want the glory manifest. Those things are our core values. The other one's like give me 18 minutes of music before I preach. That is not redemption. It is an experience and an encounter with God that we are after. Have you ever saw those times where I just say, I believe God's just speaking to people. I'm going to give him a minute. And I look at Terrence, our MD on the west. I say play. What am I trying to do?

Tuning in.

Get on his frequency. God's speaking. Some of you don't know what to do. You're confused. You're backside.

We got to get in alignment.

Yes, I got to get on that frequency. Because it's hard for God to talk to you when you're watching movies with an F bomb every other sentence. It's hard for God to talk to you when you're listening to a sound on the radio that is contrary the things of God. It is hard because God moves on sound. And it's hard to hear the voice of God. The Bible talks about the Word is choked out by the cares for other things, the deceitfulness of riches, the cares of life.

It's four different soils and only one produces.

Exactly. And so we've got to understand that sometime not hearing God is not because we're on a straight shot.

It's not a God problem.

It's because of the. It's because we're polluted.

Yes, absolutely, we're polluted. Draw nigh to God and he. And then he will draw.

Who draws first?

Me. I have to draw nigh to him.

He's not coming to my frequency. I got to move to his. Humble yourself. God will exalt. I got to move to his frequency. And so I think a lot of.

Times, so many times, we want God to come in and just be a genie in a bottle. And we want God to come in and do this pixie d and make everything great and glorious and right on the wall and us do nothing.

And a lot of people are addicted to prophecy. And I'm not delegitimizing a prophecy because there's been times where people reveal things to me that I wasn't hearing myself. But a lot of times we are addicted to a prophet. A prophet can pack a building out. You know why? Because I don't have to hear him myself.

Yeah, I don't have to work. I'm just going to let. I'm not going to go to the mountain myself.

Right.

And get my word. I want you to get it for me.

That's not the way the New Testament is supposed to work. The New Testament believer, the spirit of God. I could Go into the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. But the fact is everything prophetically you need is already in you. I've even heard it said this way. I don't think it's totally true. I think it's 80% true. Most people think that the prophetic was never for information, it was for confirmation. That the prophetic voice in someone who is prophetic or a prophet should be confirming what is already being said on the inside of me. And then when you get the witness of those two things agreeing, you have the power to execute. So that's why it talks about your spirit bearing witness with the spirit of God. So I'm not trying to get too deep here, but I do know people that will run anywhere they know a prophet is because at sometimes they've had no ability to hear God for themselves and they walk in confusion. The fact is that same spirit of prophecy dwells on the inside of you and he knows your tomorrow better than that prophet knows your tomorrow. And so sometimes it's not a holy Spirit because you're on a straight way. Keep going. We've let so many things so many.

Times, we just are not on his frequency.

Right. And I'm going to say this for those who may feel that way. Sometimes you really sought God and did what you thought God told you to do and the outcome was bad. And you think you didn't hear God. Been there. I've been there recently and I've had to realize that once you have obeyed God, you're not in control of whether or not anybody else obeyed God.

Yeah.

Obeying God did not promise me that all the outcomes were going to be positive. It promised me that I'm going to have the peace of knowing I did what God told me. And he rewards me.

Yes, he does.

He rewards me. I did what I was supposed to do to obey God. I can't obey God for everybody else involved in this scenario. So if I obey, God rewards my obedience because I tried to do the right thing. And sometimes you look at it and when the outcome was negative, but you tried so hard to make sure you were following God, you lose confidence in your ability to hear. And that's. I have had that happen with me within the last five or six years where something I thought I did so right turned out so wrong that I sat there and said, you know what? I don't know that I'm hearing him in a quality way. I might need to let somebody else talk right now because I've lost my confidence that I'm hearing him. But since then I've looked back on it and say, this person over here can obey. But it may take 20 people obeying to get the outcome God wanted.

Yeah, it's true.

And I can't control that.

I wish we all had burning bush experiences. Wouldn't that be nice? You waiting on God? To God, should I. A burning bush or the mana falls or the fleece you lay out. And I wish it was that easy. But I really believe God wants us to be so sensitive to him when you are. I know the difference in. When I'm really, really, really walking, I.

Know when I'm dialed in.

Fairly close and dialed in.

Yeah.

I know when I'm dialing quickly. I. I feel him very faintly, but it's like a ton of bricks on my chest. I know when God is speaking.

You know how I know when I'm really dialed in is when I'm. This is crazy. When I'm emotional. H. Okay. In a meeting this morning, heard what the video was going to be about from our videography department. And I had to stop the whole meeting because I just had a God moment for Ron Carpenter. My emotions are touched easily when I'm living real close. Okay. And when other things are getting in the way and life is crowding in and I'm getting busy and I'm not dialed in like I should be.

Sensitive.

I'm not as sensitive. You said it right there. And ain't nobody knows any better than you because you live with me. I'm not as sensitive. And there's a lot to this more than a 30 or 40 minute conversation. But we've thrown out some nuggets.

A great question because so many people, you know, it is, especially new Christians too. You're like, well, I hear God. What does that mean? What does his voice sound like? Does he talk loud? Is it this kind of voice? Does it sound like Pastor Ron? Does it? And that's another whole topic, you know, is leadership. Does God use leadership to speak to you?

Yeah, there's some time when you're hearing the man of God preach the word, you're hearing God.

Yeah.

Because there are people that leave there and say, wow, that was a good word. There are other people that leave there shaken, moved, transformed, Never be the same. What was that? One was a logos. The other was rhema, but somebody else. It was a rhema. And the logos is the whole counsel of God, the Bible. The rhema is when the right now word, the right now word that speaks straight into your situation. And when it speaks you know it, and it impacts you on a deep level. We've thrown a lot out there. So look, if he's not speaking, there's one of two things. He's not speaking, and you need to keep going.

Or number two.

Or number two.

You're not tuned in.

You're not tuned in. Pipes are polluted. And you've got to determine what have I got to do to dial back into God's frequency? Because it isn't whether or not he's talking, it's whether or not we're hearing him.

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Yeah, who's it for?

What is it for?

Mentorship. It's for anybody. It's male, female. We've got over 35 states represented in five countries already in the inner circle, and we join twice a month. It's the first Tuesday of every month and the last Saturday, usually the third Saturday of every month. And I pour into you. It's a lot of coaching teach you life principles. It's coaching. It's how to overcome. It's how to be disciplined, how to gain control over your mind, how to be spirit led, how to have right relationships, how to get yourself organized.

There's visitors on there that you do. We do.

We have Darius Daniels, Real talk Kim, Ron Carpenter, Christine Cain, John Maxwell pouring into your life to help you be.

Better right there looking in the camera, speaking right to you at your computer. Yes. In that situation. And so they can join it. If they do, they get your book for free. If you don't fight, you don't win. And that is something that is really growing and prospering right now. I have the Vault and actually looking at even updating and redoing it. But we've gone back and digitally remastered. Gone to great expense. It is a subscription. But we've gone to great expense. There are administrative fees in running this app and everything. But if you download the Ron Carpenter app, it's not on the website yet. The Ron Carpenter app, download it. And on there there's a way to subscribe to the Vault. It is my life's archive of preaching and teaching.

That's a lot of preaching.

Every conference, 25 years of Wednesday nights.

That's a lot of preaching.

A lot. Everything we've ever talked about, marriage, conference material, everything. So whatever topic you could imagine, there's something in there on it all that we've talked about today. And so for $9.99 a month, $9.99 a month where you would used to buy a CD of one message, everything I've ever preached. And there's no long term contract. If you like it one month and say this ain't worth nine bucks. Don't do it for me.

Oh, it's worth it.

Cancel it.

It is worth it.

But those are things we want to just take the time at our podcast and promote because we put them together because we really think they can help people on another level. But anyway, it's been great being with you guys. It's been awesome and a lot of things happening at Redemption. So if you don't have a church home home, come visit one of our local locations, if not virtually Redemption Online. We're there every Sunday. Pastor Ashley be there to welcome you and we would love to have you. And it's Ron and Hope. Unfiltered, real, raw, relevant. We'll see you guys next time. God bless.