When God Sends Voices | Ron + Hope: Unfiltered

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Hello, everybody. It's Ron and Hope. Unfiltered, real raw and relevant. And we are so glad that you're here with us today. Got Ronald Wayne right here with me.

Everybody got power on the East Coast. Coast. You got power.

We're sitting here bracing. We're in California, but we're bracing for Hurricane Milton.

I'm speaking to Milton.

Been praying for our friends and family and everybody in Florida.

You gotta chew this cough drop. I gotta chew it up. We started with it, stood in my mouth and I need to chew it up and get rid of it.

We've been praying and speaking to that hurricane, though, and it has already gained.

It has diminished, diminished a little bit. Yeah, I put a little thing out yesterday on Instagram. I think it went Facebook, too. I said, I understand we talk to people from a lot of theological. It used to be the people in my building, they know my theological stream. But now when you speak to whoever, people come from all different types of teaching and stuff. And there's some people, I realize maybe they never heard teaching like that, but sometimes. This ain't what we're talking about today. But the Bible says that when we come into the unity of the faith, that we can walk in the fullness of the stature of the measure of Christ. This will be very controversial to some, but the fact is that verse says, when we speak as the body of Christ is one voice, we carry the voice of Christ, we carry the authority of Christ. Yes, my teaching on that is called the corporate anointing. I singularly don't carry it. You singularly don't carry it. You carry a part of it. I carry a part of it. But when we as one come together, there's a corporate anointing and a corporate authority, and we can walk in the same measure where Jesus stepped out to the bow of the boat and commanded the storm, peace be still. And so in my. I said all that and say this in my little video. It went in 60 seconds. I said, a lot of times we pray about things we should be speaking to. And I said, this is one of those things where we need to speak to it as the body of Christ. So my last two days, during my devotion time, I've ended with just turning in that direction and pointing at it and, you know, saying, peace be still to it, rebuking it. Jesus rebuked it. The word rebuke means stop no more. And so I'm just believing there's going to be no devastation from this one, because I believe the body of Christ is They're at least praying and praying. They'll never hurt. But Jesus did come back after he rebuked the winds and the waves and the storm. And he was aggravated and said, where is your faith? Well, faith comes from hearing. Hearing by the word. In other words, he said, where's your word? He said, I know I got a word in my mouth. He said, where's the one in yours?

But the fear is what kept them from operating in faith.

Right?

Fear will paralyze you. And that's the job of fear, is to paralyze you, to keep you from operating in faith.

Like I said, I didn't come out here to preach a sermon on taking authority over the winds and the waves. But the fact is, even if you are nowhere near along the Eastern seaboard, we were just there. We have a campus in Greenville, South Carolina that was battered. Western North Carolina was terrible. It is heartbreaking. And even parts of Georgia, down in Augusta, where the Masters are played. Your brother just got his power back on. He lives in Augusta. So that space of geography was just beat. And for them to have to turn around and weather it again. No. So join us together and don't just pray for it, speak to it, command it to dissipate. Peace. Be still to it. In Jesus name, amen. So all those of you on the Eastern seaboard, we are praying for you. And we understand the hardship. And no matter what the storm does, God's got you. That's right. And we have to believe that as God's people. What's our topic today? What is it? I know, but let you say it.

Yeah. I don't know. You tell me. You said you had some things.

I was in your office yesterday. I was in your office yesterday and you got as many books on your shelves as I do. And I was walking out and the very last one on one of the shelves of Voices, it's a new book.

I just got yesterday, Sam Chan.

I've not read it either, and I don't know what the book is about, so. Though I would definitely promote Sam Chan, great friend of mine. I hadn't read the book, but it triggered a fault in me.

Hope.

We've been talking about 180 on Sunday mornings now for three months, almost about two and a half months, to be clearer.

And that's the keys to a turnaround.

Yes. And basically, what are the biblical principles to put in place when I need a turnaround, I need a 180 in my life. I'm in a bad place and I need God to Get me out of it. And so I've been taking my time and it's kind of. I've been doing the turnaround. You know, I preached us down and now I've started preaching us back up. And one of the first topics in the bend going back up, I wanted to bring one of the key principles was the power of voices. And without being a generational bastioner, we do have life coaches, we do have network coaching, we have coaching certifications more than ever before. And I'm going to tell you, I applaud that you do that in my ministerial fellowship, in a way, I do that. We don't call it coaching, but when we call it being under covering, well, that covering is supposed to disciple you, enhance you, and elevate your life. So you and I do it. We have two different formats and venues, so it would be hypocritical to sit here and bash it. But I'm talking about something different than coaching.

Yeah.

I'm not talking about somebody, you know, who's there to give me leadership principles to shed light, encourage, motivate. I'm not talking about that.

You talking about people speaking specifically?

I'm talking about people assigned by God that enter your life where seasons intersect and inside of them, that's the key, is your next. And you say, God would never put my next in somebody else's hands. This is the principle I went to. Galatians 4, verse 1. An heir as long as he is a child differs none from a slave, though he is master of all. So you can have an inheritance. What is an inheritance? It is a prearranged blessing to be released at a specific time of maturity. The Bible says that the one who has an inheritance, if he's still immature, can be living like a slave, though he is master of a billion dollar estate. So if he comes into the estate at age 25, but he's 24, he could be living under a bridge, though he is master technically of the whole estate.

And maturity is the bridge.

Maturity is the bridge. And with God, it's not calendar years. God talks about it as a matter of speaking, thinking and understanding. When I was a child, I thought as a child. I spake as a child, understood as a child. So you have, you got to grow up in your speaking, you got to grow up in your thinking, and you got to grow up in your understanding, the way you perceive things, the way you look at things. And so when you have reached a place in God, there God starts releasing prearranged blessings to you. But verse Two says this, but he has put them under guardians and stewards until the time appointed by the Father. I can tell you, in my whole life, I've only heard one person, I think that was Tony Miller, preach on that verse. Yeah, I've never heard anybody break that verse down. Not saying they haven't. I'm saying I haven't heard it. So in other words, what he's saying is, I'm going to take your destiny and lock it up in somebody else. Then you go to Jesus. If you honor a prophet in the name of a prophet, you'll receive a prophet's reward. If you honor a righteous man in the name of a righteous man, you get a. So God will lock my next up in somebody else and I have to receive them into my life and honor them properly for it to be released. Now I'm telling you, I guarantee you that's falling on ears where like, because we are in a rebellious generation and people have reasons for being rebellious. They just don't go there. I think my generation dropped the ball in parenthood real bad. I think our generation of marriages.

Disillusioned people.

Disillusioned people. And they saw hypocrisy in mom and dad and in the home, and it disillusioned them to a place of rebellion. And nobody's going to tell me what to do. And they don't have respect for authority. And we have teachers that are getting brutalized on camera while people are on camera. We have no respect for police. We have no respect for teachers. We have no respect for coaches. We have no respect for systems. We have no respect for authority.

And I also think this generation. And it's not their fault, it's because of a lot of reasons, like some you just named, but also like social media, you know, millionaire. Overnight you go viral, you don't have to work anymore. I just think that there's a lot of people who are looking to be popular.

But popularity and money is not destiny.

No, it's not destiny. And that's. That's skewing our. Our whole view of mentorship and process and waiting and sowing and believing for. And being faithful in the small things so that God can reward us in. We want the lottery anointing.

We want the fairy destiny. People are trading destiny for money. And so if I get a whole lot of money, I've arrived. And then 10 years later, you've got on breaking news suicide. It was never about money and it was never about popularity. And there's not enough clicks in the world. You can get and likes and shares.

There is truth and success to let.

You be fulfilled about this, about the process. Yes.

There's something so, so special. If people could hear us, you know, they would look at us, who we are now in our 50s. But they did not see the journey of the 20s and the 30s and the no money and the holding hands and believing God for groceries and having to save up for vacations. I hear people, newlyweds going to Dubai and going to, oh my gosh, these places. Me and you went down the road to Florida in a borrowed Florida.

I'm not just saying that was one time a year.

I'm not saying that that's the way it has to be done. But people's, they just turn their nose down at process now or how something might look.

There is no shortcut to destiny.

It isn't.

There are many shortcuts to money. There are many shortcuts to popularity. It took us forever to get our church to a thousand people. Now with social media, they are teaching them to start with a thousand.

Right.

So there are shortcuts to numbers, but there is not shortcuts to the will and the destiny and purpose of God. In your heart, there is nothing. And if you trade clicks, popularity, crowds and money for it, it is a cheap facsimile of the real thing God has in you.

I wish everybody could see me. If you're watching on YouTube, you can. If you listening on Spotify or Apple, you can't but think of a staircase. This. In God we have learned that destiny is not the straight, you know, going straight up, but it's a staircase. It's faithfulness testing then elevation and faithfulness passing the test. It is, it's just little by little that is the true. And that is the maturity you're talking about of thinking, speaking and reasoning that that happens in our life so that we can be proved faithful.

The journey builds that.

Yes. So that we can receive peace.

So going viral over tonight and being a YouTube sensation does not produce maturity.

No. And in that process, that staircase process, God sen strategic voices along the way.

Right. I will tell you this, I don't know why, because I would like a few of them. God has allowed no overnight successes in my life.

Nope.

And I look at some people who got them, I look at some people who nobody knew who they were and a month later, they're everywhere.

Yeah.

I look at people who the blessing of God came just like overnight. I'm not hating on them. I wish I'd got a few of them but over my life, it was all a climb. And we've had great things over our life. And I wouldn't trade places with anybody in the world. But just about every great place we ever come to, it was a journey. Before it, there was a series of steps and missteps that were before it. And so you and I are going to begin to talk about how this scripture, Galatians 4. And I'm also in the book of Ruth, where, you know, Ruth's destiny. Destiny is not riches. Ruth's destiny, it's Boaz.

Right?

Boaz is her destiny. But in chapter three, after you read everything that's going on, Ruth is just another one of the women. But Naomi come. Naomi comes to her and says, give hers. I want it to go well with you. And I want you to be different from all the other girls. So listen to me. And then she gave her five instructions. And Ruth said, all you have said, I will do.

I will do. I'm not going to negotiate with you. No, I'm not going to push back. I'm not going to push back. I'm going to do it.

I'm going to do everything you said. And who does she end up with?

Boaz.

Boaz. I look back over our life. We were having a big breakthrough in greenville in a 1000 seat metal building. And it wasn't supposed to seat a thousand people. We crammed a thousand in it in the summertime. You remember that building?

I do.

80 degrees F that you couldn't get it. Cool dirt parking lots. Okay. But the power of God, Miracles, ridiculous miracles happening. I mean, miracles like having a funeral with the biggest kingpin drug lord maybe in that whole region. And they died. And the family wanted them to have the funeral at our church because we had had that crossover ministry and, you know, we were reaching multicultural. We were at Multicultural Church and we started singing. And all those drug lords and all those drug dealers and everything, and the pimps and all of them started throwing up. I mean, everybody in the church starts puking. There's such a conflict of two kingdoms clashing in that building. And people are like people that go to churches today and they sell this polish and this coffee.

You looked at our praise and worship leader. You say, keep singing.

All of our care pastors and elders started running around with trash cans, catching people's puke. Why? Because these demons were coming in conflict with righteousness. And those things like that were almost. That was common. We saw power, we saw authority clashes, kingdom clashes, but nobody knew about us. And then here comes this guy, you get sick.

2000 bad.

You get sick, bad.

Almost died.

And this guy, I cleaned my whole calendar except the most unwanted meeting. It was the meeting on there that if you said, that's the first one to go. I cleared my calendar because you had had major surgery and you were going to have a major recovery. And I wanted to be there for you in that recover. And for whatever reason, God would not let me cancel that one. And it was driving into the hills of Georgia where nobody was at, into this cabin type house where this old lady had invited several prospective church planters and wanted me to talk to them. I'm like, you literally went with me. We laid you down in the car, then laid you down in a bed at the woman's house while I talked to these people. It was a grueling day. There ain't no money in it, ain't no honorarium. But there's this guy there who keeps staring at me from the kitchen. The guy was the editor in chief of Charisma magazine.

Yep.

After the day was over with, he walked up to me and said, where did you get your limp? He was referring to Jacob.

Yep.

You've been humbled, you've been touched, you've got a limp. And I don't see that a lot. Where did you get your limp? And he went back and made us the center story called Breakthrough in the Bible Belt.

Yeah, we have it back here.

Bam, bam. We got it back there on the hall in a frame. Then I get a call from Affiliated Media out of Florida. We read your story, and this guy drives up to see me, and he comes up in a gazillion dollar special rare edition Porsche. He's a secular guy. And we want to put you not just on Christian television, secular television. So we go from a metal building, secular television overnight. Then Rod Parsley invites me in because I'm sitting there saying, I don't know how to make this transition. I don't know anything about tv. Never wanted to be on tv. And then Rod Parsley just calls me up one day after I was praying in the spirit. Just calls me up and he says, by the way, I just wanted to let you know you don't buy all that equipment. You lease it. Because I was sitting here trying to think, how am I going to buy $250,000 cameras? They don't cost that much no more. But they did back then. What happened? Three voices came in and released information and favor, blessing, wisdom, paths, decisions, making, direction. That took us from one season to the next. Season that without those three things. Hope. I don't know how that transitioned. I don't know how that door swings. So we go and now boom. Tv, which is the main media venue back then, really social media is not even thought of yet. The Internet is, but not social media. So then we come to about 2004, 2005, we built almost a 5,000 seat dome. And it is filling up, packing and we're going to multiple services. Boom, we're in a whole new season. Then it kind of. Okay, the building's full. Is that all? Have a gentleman enter my life named Kelly Varner. Nobody knows him. I think he's a literary apostle and prophet. Most profound revelation I've ever been around. And Dr. Miles Monroe, Kelly Verner gives me notes on the Book of Ruth and drives out of the parking lot. Dr. Miles Monroe ends up. Not at that time ends up giving me his typewritten and hand highlighted notes on the Kingdom. And I start preaching the Kingdom. But what happened? I had two voices enter my life at a stage of completion and plateau. Waiting for my next. My next was tied up in two people. I had never heard the Kingdom message. I had never heard a Kingdom sermon. I didn't know anything I was taught in Bible college. The difference between the church and the Kingdom is the church is local and the Kingdom is world.

Yeah, global.

Global. That was all I was ever told. And then I got Miles Morales that come and shake my whole theology to the ground. And I have to start all over being understanding the main message of the Bible is not church. It's Kingdom. There is no other message. Every other message fits inside of Kingdom. There is no message of faith. There is no message of love. There is no message of grace. All of it is a Kingdom message. It is just a part of it. Revolutionize me. And the church explodes and our field explodes again. And time after time after time, I can go through. I know you. When you hit the lowest points and the biggest storms in your life, in came a person.

Yeah.

You didn't just go out and get over it. In comes a person. And what does that person help? What pathway?

I look back over my life though, I had a lot of personal voices. I know you may not even remember these names. You may. But I remember there was a lady nobody would know. Her name's Kathy Sandlin. Local lady in Greenville. Yes, she passed in Greenville. But she was a Pentecostal Holiness lady. She was always a voice for me. Even as a teenager growing up going to youth camps, she always would have a word for me. And it would just pierce me. And I knew it would be confirmation for me. This. You know, you'll be in ministry one day. You're different. God's got a unique, special calling on your life. Barbara James. I remember another lady in the Pentecostal holiness movement who just poured into me at different strategic times of my life, just encouraging me and my.

Like, they show up when you need them.

Yes.

Yeah.

And then Janice Shostrand.

That was a big one.

She rocked my world. She literally rocked my world. And it gave me a hunger, because.

How can you be that holy and be that cool?

Yeah. I mean. I mean, she gave me such a hunger, you know, to be a woman of God and to know the word.

Like, she make you hunger and thirst after righteousness. Yes.

And then Lee and Denise Boggs at a very critical time in my life. Marilyn Hickey. Another shift in my life.

When you're on your way back.

When I'm on my way, you know, out of that darkness, and, you know, this is what God's saying. Go into all.

And these were not people that were kind of a part of our life. I mean, there's the people that show up. Yeah, they just show up. I mean, the Marilyn Hickey thing, that was totally out of left field. You're like, why me?

Yeah. I didn't even know her.

And all of a sudden, you're standing on the phone with Pakistan with what, 70, 80,000 people.

I didn't even know her, but she knew we had a mutual friend, Cynthia Brazelton. And Cynthia Brazelton said, you know, pastor Marilyn Hickey wants to talk to you. Me. You know, and she's wanted me to fly there to meet her, and starts pouring into me. And she says I'm the first person she's ever met who had the same anointing as her, who's a pastor's wife, but called to the mission field. And just next thing I knew, next year, I'm in Pakistan, and my whole life shifted, and now I'm over missions for all of our campuses and love it. Wish I could do more of it.

And then you have things that are prophetic voices. I don't know that. Phil Cooke, if he's watching, he's hilarious. I don't know that he's ever considered himself a prophet, but he comes into my life. I bring him in as a consultant. I don't know him as a paid consultant. He comes in from la. We're in Greenville. He starts looking at me and said, I believe you could do this. And I believe you could do this. So I make all this million dollar investment in all this equipment for a concept I have called I Church.

Yep.

That nobody's doing okay. And everybody kind of crazy. But it's creating a virtual church. Not Internet streaming, pastoring. Having staff members that do nothing but pastor this virtual congregation. And these are people that are members of Redemption that have never stepped foot on one of our physical campuses. People are like, I called a lot of heck for that. I remember that investment. I got some pushback on that. And then Covid happens and we're ready.

Already been here.

Established monetarily. Covid was one of our strongest years ever. Monetarily. Now, it wiped us out in church attendance. But the provision of God to give you a prophetic word to build an ark for the saving of your household. And we had people blowing our phones up wanting to put together an I church in two days.

Yeah. Can you send your I Church pastor over to teach us how to do this?

Because those things were not in place. So prophetic voices coming in and helping me build an ark for the saving of what I had for a day that I knew not of.

Sam Chan has been another voice in our life. It's so many critical.

When we decided that we were going to take on the west coast and that was our assignment from God and we were going to move. That's a huge thing. And we're 50 years old. You're 49. I'm 50. And then Sam Chan just literally having a conversation with him. Ron, secure your exit before you secure your entrance. He said, nobody remembers how you showed up, but everyone will remember how you left.

Truly.

I'm like, I did everything I could. Truly, I tried, man. I worked hard at it. But to make sure everything is covered and set up for great succession didn't work out. But that word and that insight had never crossed my mind because it's easy to get excited about next before you've tidied up last. And I remember I then waited six months and with all my might took a ministry and tried to hand it off as strong as I could possibly hand it off. And here again, a person showing up with a word. All these things I have listed which stretch all the way back to Tommy Barnett.

Yes. That was a major story.

Still alive today. I think he's in his mid to late 80s. I can't. Last time I saw him was at an art conference. And I couldn't even hardly go. I couldn't even look at him without crying. And just a few hundred people plowing man, we were plowing. And he came in 1999 by a favor to my dad. He didn't even know who I was. And he came and preached an anniversary service and brought a big bag of mustard seed, preached on the multiplication anointing, then brought us up on stage and said, this multiplication anointing I have because at that time, 22,000 people, we had the largest church in America. And he laid his hands on us and said, I'm going to give it to you. And when he left, our church went from 350, 400 to like 12 to 1500 in the next 12 months. So we went from hundreds to thousands with the insertion of one man voice.

One voice, one night.

Yeah, that Here again. Does that happen without that moment? Does that happen without that message? Does that happen without that impartation and hope? My heart hurts for people that are out there doing it and say, nobody's ever imparted to me. Nobody has ever laid hands on me. And I ain't talking about ministry. I'm talking about anything. And, you know, not so much you getting a voice for your career path. You know, everybody has training and apprenticeships and internships. I'm not really talking about that. I'm talking about spiritual authorities that come in and say, if you'll listen to me, God will unlock your next. And you have such honor and respect for the anointing on their life. It's not about the person, but the anointing on their life and the fact that you receive them as a messenger sent. How beautiful are the feet of them that bring good news.

You receive it with joy.

You receive it as beautiful feet bringing good news, and you honor it and you obey it with a godly fear and a godly reverence. And that was the way the kingdom functioned. And that was the way I saw so many people, you know, paralleling the Bible, moving the kingdom forward like that. And today I see us, you know, kind of building a corporate entity. Was social media savvy, but we got a lot of unhappy people and more depressed people than ever before in recorded history, which tells me I've had success, but I still haven't hit fulfillment.

Yeah, but it's something about that word. When you get a word on something, you know, you get. There's words spoken over us that we still haven't seen come to pass. But we got a word on it. And God watches over his word to.

Perform it, and he will not.

He will.

He will not let it, but it will prosper in the thing for which it was Sent. And so there's a comfort in us when everything's not looking right and not going right. We got a word, and we've had about five or six testy weeks that we've had here that, you know, I tell you, I'm just kind of saying I got to flush it. Because when I get the information, you can't act like it doesn't bother you. But you get the information and you got to deal with it. Then what I do, I get my confession back. It'll get my faith back. And I know how to pray, and I know what to say, and God's told me what to do. And then you see God show up in another vein. But here again, I'm not really talking about teachers, because the Bible says you have many teachers in Christ, but you don't have many fathers. Fathers is an authoritary voice that comes in with a pathway forward. And if you will heed them as being a messenger of the Lord, word of the Lord, God will reward you from it because your inheritance springs forth, the prearranged blessings from heaven spring forth. When I understand God has locked it up in somebody else, and I recognize who they are, you can be listening.

And say, well, I've never had any of those voices in my life. I want it. Pray for it. Pray for it. Ask God for it. God, send voices to me. Send people in my path. God, send people that I don't know. Send people in the grocery store. Send people in the church. Send a special speaker. Let me log on to something.

These voices are not usually your best friend.

No, no. It's usually somebody over you. Yes, somebody.

It's a Greater. It's a Greater.

It's a Greater.

It's a Greater.

And God will send it to you. God will send it. And right at the right time.

I look back on it and I just. Me, too. I'm so grateful. And we could go into how we honored them.

It spurs you to the next thing. It gives you that fuel.

And somebody say, how do I know you bear witness?

You do. It's like, yes on the inside.

Let me go back one more. I know we've been here half hour, but let me go back one more. This was a big one and overlooked it. Sheryl Brady's husband, Joby Brady, you're really the only person I've ever really talked to. You know Ron Carpenter. If anybody knows Ron Carpenter, you know Ron Carpenter. And in the public, I don't ever spew my poison or my depression or my defeat on the people I Never have. When I get on that stage, I have a job to do. But that don't mean I'm on top of it all the time, right? And I was going through a season. All I know was as a pastor, I didn't fit. Nobody was ugly to me. Ron Carpenter, don't have a pity party. I don't want nobody to feel sorry for me. But there was this aloneness, there was this. I'd go to my father's denomination and everybody was nice to me, everybody respected me. But you knew you weren't like me. I ended up sitting by myself.

You weren't invited to the prayer break.

Everybody that went golfing after the meeting, I was not invited. Everybody would shake my hand and go sit back together and I'm sitting over here. I would go preach at a conference and the other five speakers would all stay at the home, same hotel. And they would put me at one across the town. Myself. I'm human. I was at a stage that was working on me and I didn't understand. And nobody talked about apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors. You just went to school to be a pastor, right? That's all I knew.

Or a missionary.

And we were dedicating that 1000 seat building which took everything in the world. I was laying carpet at 2 o' clock in the morning before we dedicated the building next morning. And he came and he came because I think Ms. Cheryl had double booked. Cheryl was supposed to come and she said, I'd like to send my husband. I didn't know Bishop Joby at the time, but I said, you know, whatever. We're dedicating a building in the morning. He walked in there, time to preach and got up in the pulpit. I don't know. Did he ever open his Bible? And he pointed at me, he said, what you desire, you have become. He said, you feel orphaned. You don't have a father in the faith, you don't have a spiritual father, you don't fit and you desire one. You don't fit anywhere. He said, not understanding that what it is you're chasing, you are. He said, and the reason you don't fit is, he said, you're not a.

Pastor, you're an apostle.

You are an apostle. I fell forward on the front row out of my seat on the floor. That service was about four hours long. Yeah, I probably laid on the floor a half hour to an hour. I remember and wailed because I wanted to answer this last question.

Bore witness.

That's what I was going to say. People say, well, how do I know because what they say will bear witness.

It's confirmation.

I didn't know anything about an apostle. All I knew is the apostle Paul. I knew the 12 apostles in Acts. I knew nothing about apostolic anointing or function. And he said, quit trying to be a pastor because you're not a pastor. You are apostolic. And all of a sudden, the light comes on as to why everybody treats me different and while I always end up alone.

Why you're not satisfied with maintaining.

Yeah, I'm not satisfied with what they're satisfied with. I have hungers and passions that are different, and I tell them about them, and they look at me like I'm an alien, but I can't help it. And then all of a sudden, this word, this person with this word, and my life changes forever. And I, to this day, whether people believe in it or not, I am an apostle in the kingdom of God. And I function in apostolic ministry. And everywhere I've ever been, God blesses that gift and that function and with signs and wonders following it. It has nothing to do with Ron Carpenter. It has to do with the gift of God on Ron Carpenter's life. But I never knew it to the voice. So I would just say to you, you have seen, basically, we just gave you a timeline up until now of strategic people with strategic things at strategic time that brought release to a new season. I want that for you. I want that for you. Maybe you got tears in your eyes right now because you just feel the emptiness and longing for that. Lord, I just pray God that you would bring them right now. And I pray that they would recognize them and hear them and let them be able to hear your voice, the voice of a shepherd and not the voice of a stranger. And God, I just ask in Jesus name that right now that whoever is waiting for the next season to be unlocked, bring that voice that has the key.

Amen.

I'm believing that for each and every one of you. In Jesus name, Amen.

Amen.

Close us out, baby.

Listen, if you'd like a voice, I want to be that for you. I have hope. Center circle.

Where we segued into that Smooth. Yeah, I didn't see that coming.

Where, you know, I meet with you twice a month in a group setting and pour my life and my wisdom on what I've been through, what God's taught me into you. Do I know everything? Absolutely not.

But you've been taught a few things.

But I have been taught a few things, and I've grown in a lot of areas, and I would love to wrap my arms around you and be a voice, a voice in your life. I know there's many voices, so go to hopesinnercircle.com you can join today. I actually have a meeting tonight in the inner circle. Have some great voices who speak. Pastor Ron Speaks, Darius Daniels, Real Talk Kim John Maxwell, many others. Christine Cain.

That's a lot of horsepower.

Yes, it is. So if you want to be a part of that, go to hopecentercircle.com and join today.

And I have the Vault, but you got to go to my app to get it. Download the Ron Carpenter app and my entire library and archive. I've always I don't know no more. It's 2000 and something messages of every topic imaginable in the Bible is there for you. There is a subscription. It costs a lot of money to manage this and it costs a lot of investment to digitally remaster all of these. Going all the way back to the cassette tapes. We're dating ourselves. But we have done that and done that for you. And I think it's a masterful tool that could be a voice in your life and help unlock a new season. I'd love for you to grab the app and become a part of the Vault. Listen, guys, we love you so much. This is Ron and Hope. Unfiltered, real, raw and relevant. Until next time. May God bless you and may voices arise in your life. We'll see you soon.