Why Am I Here?

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Been eating paper.

What is this?

Been eating paper. I mashed it as a blood blister. It hurt, but really bad while you was gone.

How?

I can't remember. But I just remember when I did it. It was painful.

Must have been all that yard work you were doing.

Yep. Keeping the house. Did you notice how clean it was when you got home? Dishes were washed, house was clean, everything was put up. Had some clouds painted on your living dining room ceiling.

You did all that for me?

Yes, I did. I took my whole day off.

Did you?

Yes, yes. I took my whole day off. And I said, my baby likes clouds.

You painted them.

So I did the faux and the hand stuff where you just. Up on the ceiling. Did you like them?

I loved them.

Tell people about them. Tell people. I got a job idea.

You did an amazing job watching that woman paint.

No, that woman did not do that. Oh, I did that. I had guys come in and put on a base coat of paint. And then I did the. I took like a little spongy thing and I did them all around the side and I did them around the middle where your light fixture was. I thought it looked good. Anyway, that ain't what our people want to hear, but I just thought they.

Don'T want to hear all your lies.

It's not lies. Was the house clean?

Yes.

Everything was put up neatly, wasn't it? Yes. Except for all of your Amazon packages.

Ron Carpenter.

They were sitting at the door.

What is wrong with you today?

They were sitting at the door when you got in, weren't they stacked up? I got so mad I wouldn't even put them up. I just left them there.

You know what they were? The two blow up mattresses for the grandkids. Sheets to go on them, a mattress pad to go on them. Cause don't nobody want to lay on no cold blow up mattress.

But what were the other 17 boxes?

There was not 17, Ron.

All right, what are we talking about today?

Obviously me.

What are we talking about the last one, we talked about your roots. So what are we talking about today?

Your blood blister because of what a hard worker you are around the house. Anyway, today we are going to talk about a pretty intense topic, though. You better just reel it on in.

A silly mood now. You're going to have to switch gears and make me all serious next little bit.

You know, there are a lot of people who really struggle with purpose and struggle with why am I here? I think everybody has. I think everybody has asked that question somewhere in their life. Why am I on this earth? Why am I here? And that's what we're going to talk about today.

Funny you'd say that. I did hear Elon Musk on a podcast a while back and he talked about at a certain area, his time of his life, he went through the meaning of life thing, said he really struggled. He said he actually kind of went through a depression, if I heard him correctly, and the meaning of life. And I heard him in another podcast actually say some nice things about Christ. I didn't hear him say he was a Christian, but he said some respectable things. I was like, hey, wow, I'll take anything I can get from a guy that influential. You're right. There's a guy that's changing the world, but has why am I here?

Right? Why am I here?

Why am I here? And I think everybody's looked introspectly. I don't know that we do that young. I think after we've had a little bit of life under our belt and we look back and say, am I making a difference? Why am I here? Do I matter? I don't know that there are a bunch of 19 year olds trying to answer this great question of the meaning of life. But I do think it don't have to be a midlife crisis. Once you kind of get going and you realize this is the trek I'm on, this is the journey I'm taking, you sit back and like, is it going to be a meaningful one? Is this what I'm put here to do? And is this the way I want to spend my whole life? And if not, what changes do I need to make?

So I think you're usually on one side of the fence or the other. Either that what you just said, we don't even think about it. We just strike off into, you know, life, what makes me happy. I like this person, I don't like that person. Or you overthink. And there are those who just.

Paralysis by analysis. Paralysis by analysis.

And you don't do anything.

Yeah. Because they're scared to make a decision. They don't make a decision, and that becomes their decision.

Yeah.

Not making what they live in indecision, that becomes the decision. And so I got some really spiritual and really practical things and everything in life, mine and your theme through ministry has been spirit and natural. Spirit and natural. You can't be all natural and leave God out of the picture, but you can't pray all the time and never do and execute anything. And so, number one, I will tell you this. The Bible says, now, this is hard to wrap your mind around. And I know everybody that may be watching our podcast may not be church people. So I don't want to assume too much, but the Bible, you know, there's this big thing now, hope you know, where does life begin? Where does life begin? Because that all happened with Roe versus Wade being overturned. And I tell people, you know, they come, is it conception or is it not? And I tell people, I said, it's neither. Life begins in heaven. The Bible declares that all of my days. We're talking about purpose now, were ordained for me before one of them came to be.

Yes.

God told Jeremiah, I knew you before you were in your mother's womb and had already ordained you to be a prophet to the nations. Listen, your purpose was sealed before your mama's womb carried you.

That something.

The Bible says that Jesus was not a good idea after Adam screwed up, but Jesus was the Lamb slain before the foundations of the world. So God already had a plan of redemption before man ever screwed up. So purpose starts in heaven. Okay? And there's several heavenly things that happen, and there's several earthly things I go to. Romans, chapter eight. Stay with me. I'm not going to preach to you, but I want you to see this. The Bible says those he foreknew, he predestined foreknowledge has to do with the counsels of God somewhere in time. Okay, you're searching for purpose. I'm giving it to you. God had a meeting with himself. That's a bad God right there. He called a meeting with himself, the Father, the Son, Holy Spirit got a meeting. And the Bible says and planned your life out of the counsel of his will. God had a conversation with himself, and in that meeting, your life was planned. Those he foreknew, he did predestined. Predestined now has to do with execution. So God foreknew you. Then he activated a plan in heaven, and all of your days were ordained before one of them came to be those he predestined he called. Now we've moved. The first two happen in heaven. You're foreknown and predestined in heaven. Now we're coming into the earth realm. Then you're called. When did you start seeing snapshots? What you would do in life as a youngin?

Yes.

Singing, speaking to people on a stage. Even in times when you weren't serving God, did God not give you snapshots? Absolutely. That's when the heavenly dimension starts breaking into the earthly dimension, when God starts giving you pictures. Mine was diversity. I was always the white boy in the black circle. I mean, as I told you, I was the first boy in my high school that I remember dating an African American girl. I was always that guy. I was the white guy who could really play basketball with all the rest of the brothers. You know what I'm talking about? And so I didn't know it at the time. I just thought it was basketball and a girlfriend. But it was a snapshot of purpose because God has let breaking down racial walls and creating kingdom. Diversity has followed us our entire 32 years of ministry. So the calling is when God starts letting you see a glimpse of what can be. And it may not even look that holy.

It's the things you love.

But you belonged on a stage. I saw you on a stage. I saw you on stage when you was 18 years old. And I'm like, if anybody's belonged on a stage, that girl's infectious. That girl's Asian.

And I love people. Yeah, I wanted to be around people.

You had a love for people and you were very magnetic. You had a draw to you. But all of these things were not for you. They were glimpses of a snapshot of purpose. And I'm the same way now. I'll tell you what I didn't see was any speaking gift on my life. I never got up and spoke in front of people. So sometimes God's got something tucked in you that he's hidden.

Absolutely.

And you'll get in there.

Faith that your cooperation with your purpose requires faith.

Okay, what's something that was that you're operating in that you had no idea.

Was in there actually speaking too? I was a singer. I played the piano. I thought I was going to marry this preacher and I was going to be the preacher's wife, you know, who led worship, who played the piano.

You didn't see yourself as a conference speaker?

No idea that I would be on the stage speaking.

You had probably no idea you would be running mission efforts across the world.

Never.

You had no idea you'd be in Pakistan doing a crusade downtown. You had no idea you'd author a book.

So purpose evolves and unfolds.

Because after you get in the will of God and you give God your yes. I know you weren't here, you and on the east, at our east coast campus, Sunday preaching, but I got up at an altar call and talked about giving God your yes. Okay.

It's always a posture.

Yeah. We were singing that song we sing yes, Lord, and I just can't, I couldn't stand it no more. I came up and I said, that's all God wants. If you get to a place, you give him your yes. There's things he gives you snapshots of. Then there's other things that just, oh, wow, I didn't know that was in there. You know, I didn't even know.

Just gifts.

Exactly right. And he puts you in a certain environment or a certain place that makes a demand on it and stuff comes out of you you didn't even know you had.

But I think God's watching us to see our faithfulness in the little things in the first yes.

That's what qualifies you.

Yes, it does qualify you to say, yes, God, I'll give this $10. You told me to give $10 to this lady over here. And we give that $10, we see what God does with that. And then God will say, okay, now I need you to give $100. It's like it unfolds and it grows.

And there we have missions and we have projects that our ministry writes $100,000 checks to, but it started with 10. I still, I didn't even know this. Hope had a financial meeting the other day and I raised it. It embarrassed me. I didn't even know it. But my financial guy was just going back through some of our long term commitments and the first year we had a church, we started supporting a missionary for $25 a month. I've not seen the guy in 20 something years. He's still there, he's still on the ground doing the machine work. And I didn't even know we'd been sending him 25, $25 the whole time. I said, we're going to raise that. I just out of sight, out of mind. But it was the $25 that turns into the $250,000 that you take to plant a church in a new area or something. And God has showed faithfulness over time. So in heaven he Foreknows you in heaven. He predestined you. It starts entering the earth when he calls you. And those he called, he justified. Those he justified, he glorified.

He glorified.

Glorified is when you're living the dream.

Yeah.

Glorified is when God had a dream about you and your walk in heaven. It's been played out in heaven. And your life is giving glory to the heavenly picture.

That's so good.

And so those are the five stages of living out purpose. It begins in heaven. It enters the earth through a call and a pull and a tug and a passion. And then you move into justified and glorified, which means you're walking in everything that you were put here to do. The Holy Spirit, which is just not talked about enough. Baby, we know that that's something we feel called to do is we got to get the Holy Spirit back in our churches. The Holy Spirit, the Bible says, knows your future, knows everything about you. So I can't stand up here and just me and Hope give you a purpose session for 30 minutes. Another thing is a relationship with the Holy Spirit, who on the ends I can tell when I've grieved the Holy Spirit. What does that mean?

You've made a decision that's outside of his will.

It's contrary to my purpose. That's what it means to grieve the Holy Spirit. God has this laid out plan.

Choose another one.

You don't even have to really stand contrary to it. You can just deviate from it. And I can feel. I can feel the spirit of God on the inside of me grieving. Likewise, when I am walking in it, I feel the peace of God. Even if the decision was a hard one. I have peace because I know I'm following God in the decision.

Why do we resist? Why do people resist?

Because they think they know better.

And the sellout to God.

They'Re scared of what God's going to ask them.

To do, but not why don't we trust and believe that he's the one who made us.

That's a trust issue.

So he's the one who knows what's going to make us fulfilled if we would just sell out.

So now you want to talk about the manual. You done shifted over to that right there. Okay. You know if something, you know how something is supposed to function because the manufacturer will chronicle that in a manual.

That's right.

Now most of them are online instead of in a book form anymore. But there's a manual.

Like your car has one about this Thick.

The manual ensures that you know how to let this thing function properly. So if it breaks, like right now, I got a little Toyota truck. It's got 100 and some thousand miles on it, 12 years old. Went out the other day, it wouldn't crank. So I'm going to have to get somebody to tow it to the Toyota place. Did you notice what I just said? I have a Toyota truck. It's not functioning properly.

You don't take it to Acura.

Take it. You don't take it to the manufacturer. So I take it to the people who built it and the people who.

Built it, because they know how it's.

Done, how it's supposed to function. They know how it's supposed to function, and they can repair it. Place where it functions according to its creative order.

Yes.

Now, when your life is not functioning and it's fallen apart and everywhere around you is rubble and purpose is like sand that slips through your fingers, what do you have to do? You have to stop, call time out and go back to the manufacturer, say.

I've been doing it my own way.

Exactly. I've gotten a couple of prophetic words even as early as today about the call of God on my life and what he was going to do from age 55 to 65. I've gotten two prophetic words that ages 55 to 65, I will have more impact than the rest of my previous years combined.

Just tell me this. None of the prophetic words were that we would have another child.

We're going to try for one more.

No, we're not.

I told you that when we moved here.

No, we're not.

Did I not tell you that I cursed that. Did I not tell you that we'd have to adopt. I'm not on the plane. Yes, I do.

But we would have to adopt a child, Ron, because this basket doesn't hold anything anymore.

We've had some of the machinery changed out, so it would be kind of an immaculate conception. But that's a funny story.

Let's don't.

We were flying here after the transition was over in 2019, landed in San Jose. We landed in San Jose and this was now going to become our home. And I mean, the wheels hit the Runway and I looked hope. I said, let's try for one more. I slapped you. Yeah. I had to move out the way because I felt that hand coming around me right there.

No, I didn't slap it.

No. But anyway, I didn't forget what I was talking about. What I was talking about. See, you Distract me.

You just looked at my. You looked into my eyes.

And I ain't seen you in a long time either, so.

A long time. Seven days.

It was really good.

Ron.

Baby, you're like the Lord.

You're talking about the Toyota. You're talking about taking the Toyota back.

Wait, let me stop. A day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like a day. You're like the Lord.

That's what it is.

Just like I haven't seen you in 7,000 years.

Oh, my Lord Jesus.

Okay, let me leave that there.

Okay.

Is it working?

Yeah, it's working.

Okay. Toyota. So when life is broken, you got to take it back to the one who created it.

Right.

I dare say there's a lot of people talking to me. Their life may not be broken, but I would say at the very least, they're frustrated.

Yeah. And you were talking about the prophetic word that you would do more.

I got that prophetic word, but let me tell you what. What was spoken into me inside my spirit, what the Bible called, bore witness with it. But in my head, I don't know how in the world I'm going to do it. Okay, so God dreams.

You usually never know how you're going to do it.

I go back to your yes. Yeah. Sometimes the yes comes with knowledge, and sometimes the yes is blind faith.

Right. Just yes, God. Okay, here I am. Send me.

Now I'm going to go back to. We left a perfect world. We did a perfect little house and a perfect little neighborhood and our kids in perfect little schools. But we had two cars in the garage and they both ran. We had, I think, the greatest church in America. I mean. And then God calls me to a new region of which I have no influence, which I'm unfamiliar, basically, starting over, which I'm unfamiliar with. And then Covid hits immediately. So we come out of that, and it's almost like a church plant. So I come out of a place and I'm like, God, I am out here. I got staff, I got bills.

We're like, now, God?

Yeah.

And we said yes to you.

I am out here straight up, walking on water. But what did I have the whole time? Peace.

Peace.

Because when you say yes, you don't.

Worry about your responsibility's up to God, not to us.

Exactly. Exactly. Another thing I tell people about purpose. The Bible says that he took the things in Jesus and he took what was in heaven and wrote it in his heart. That word heart means the seat of your passions. It doesn't mean the blood pump. It Means the seat of your passions. I've always told people. And if you've heard this before, bear with me. I bet most of our listeners haven't. Passions have to be studied. You gotta study your passions. Because if that scripture is correct, God's trying to talk to you.

Your passions, meaning the things that make you cry, the things that you're passionate about, things you're excited about.

When I see poverty, I get angry. I don't get sad. I get angry because I know it's unnecessary.

Yeah.

And I know that there are laws in the word of God, kingdom laws, that if you bathe them, it is impossible for your life not to rise. It's impossible. Just like if that airplane gets up to 120 miles an hour, the wheels are going to lift, period. You can't hold the plane down. It's coming up. There are things when you obey kingdom laws, your life will rise. That makes me angry. So I feel an assignment to it.

I attack poverty because we got the answer.

I attack poverty with the word of God. Another thing that bothers me. Oh, God, I hate racism. I just detest racism. So what about why?

Because we know what the word says.

Because I detest it. Because I'm hurt by it all the time. Back when I was a kid, I remember things that bothered me. I told you I was the big guy. I was a bigger guy in my class, always was. And I took up for weak people. I just couldn't stand to see people get bullied or picked on. So you'd have to go through me to pick on somebody. I get mad when I see weakness taken advantage of. And so all these things, as I studied them, they came together in this wonderful life that we have named redemption and called it ministry. But it was no more than. And I tell people, some people get mad if you don't love what they love. And I'm like, I can't love everything, but I can give my life to what I love. And if you happen to be.

To what you're called to.

Yeah. If you happen to be doing something that is also what I love, I can come over here and help you out. But I can't spend all my life doing things for which I have no passion for. Cause you won't do it long and you won't do it well.

And, you know, I think people get tripped up on the idea that when you're doing what you're supposed to do in life, even what God's called you to do, that you won't have any opposition and they're like, well, I thought I was doing what God called me to do, but why is XYZ and all this trouble happening to me? I think that's how you know that you're exactly on the right path, because you have an adversary, the devil, who is trying to come and keep you from operating in purpose. So he's going to be throwing everything he can at you to make you derail, get off of purpose and get over here into flesh and riotous living and doing it your own way, doing it his way.

This is the way I like to put it. Before you say, yes, count the gods. You have an internal battle. Yeah, I go there, too. You have an internal battle because you know you're disobeying God and the misery that sets him living outside the will of God. It's hard to tell God no. If you don't believe me, ask Jonah.

Well, if you love him.

Yeah, but, I mean, God doesn't like to be told no, no. And God will go to work turning your no into a yes. And that's usually not a fun process, the running. Yeah, that's not appropriate.

Quail University is what we call it.

So. But then when you say yes to God, you internally get the peace of God, but then external factors and if.

You got peace, you can go through. If I got peace.

Peace in the storm.

Yes. Peace in the storm that passes.

Understanding.

Understanding.

Because I'm looking at you saying, that girl's going through hell. How in the world does she even sleep at night? It passes. Understanding. I don't know why I should have this, because around me, it looks like all hell is breaking loose. But inside of me, I laid my head down. Yeah.

It's worth everything.

Exactly. Right. I say it's the most expensive thing on the earth is peace. So those are things you need to look at, is study your passions, what makes you cry, what makes you laugh, what makes you feel better, what makes you angry. What do you want to give to. What do you see when you enter a room? Who was I with the other day? I was with somebody the other day, and they do a certain thing for a living. And we walked in a room and.

They picked it right up.

I mean, what was that? They walked in a room. I ain't even thought about it. It was nowhere on my radar. It's like they couldn't even enjoy themselves because this thing was messed up. That is in their line of clash.

It's like a hairdresser coming in. Yeah. And they're like, oh, I just want to get my hands in their hands.

I'm on there. And I bet you there's all kind of hairdressers. Like, if I could just get my hands on Ron Carpenter's head, you know, I could make him look five years young, you know, whatever. But those people who are hairdressers, they ain't seen the carpets ruffled, right? But you let a floor guy and a carpet guy come in here. I could care less about my hair, but he's looking over there and the songs are going on and he can't even worship. Well, that just means frayed carpet going down the basement.

I don't do floors, but I can't stand messed up.

See what I'm talking about? Carpet. So the things that you see, I tell people, I kind of know that I'm apostolic in nature. Apostolic is orderly. Because I can walk into a church and see when something's out of order. I can see it. I can walk.

Not just a church, I can walk into a room. You can see it anywhere.

I can walk into a room. I'm dealing with a company right now where I actually stepped a little bit out of my personality profile. You would have been disappointed in me. And I told some guys, I said, this is run very poorly. And I said, you need to reexamine your business protocols.

I wouldn't have been disappointed. I'd have been clapping.

You see what I'm talking about? But why? Even in their. I don't know nothing about their industry, but I immediately detected it's all out of order.

Yeah.

And that's what I see. That's what I pick up on. I'm really not noticing the hair or the carpet really that much. But man, I can see when something's not running right. I can tell it. So here again, talking about purpose. Another. You need to examine those things. Let's talk about this on the last part. I think we probably have overwhelmed them with a little bit of information so far. You brought that up. I hadn't even thought about Jesus. Said who before building a tower. Will not first count the cost? First things. There's a law of first things. I love the law of first things in the Bible. Did a whole series on it. Who will not first count the cost to see if he has enough to finish, lest others see him and mock him. The danger of saying God called me to do something, but you don't have what it takes to cross the finish line. Makes a mockery out of God. You need to stop. I hear people. How many times do people come to Us and say, God told me, God told me. God told me, God told me. And two weeks God done told them something else. And so I don't show a lot of credence anymore for somebody running in telling me what God told them. Because I've seen people tell me God told them and they don't ever do anything. And to me, that's sacred. If God tells me something, I'll usually try to go to my grave trying to bring it to pass. Count the cost. Jesus said, who going into to fight an army with 20,000? With your 10,000, would you not first stop and see if you can win number one? Do you have enough to finish number two? Is this a winnable battle? Yeah, some battles aren't worth fighting. Somebody said something to me the other day and said, what do you think I said? That just ain't a hill I'm willing to die on. I just don't. That ain't worth it to even crawl in that fight. Y' all fight about it. It don't mean that much to me. I got some heels I'll die on, but that was not one of them. You've got to say, is this battle worth it and is it winnable?

And I think what you're saying too, about counting the cost, and I think this might be a hindrance to some people. They're sitting there counting the cost and they're like, I just don't know if I can do that.

You can't see the reward, right? You can't see the reward. You count the cost, but the reward is hidden. And you have to trust that God is a rewarder of those that diligently seek him.

You know, the bottom line is in finding out who you are, finding out what your purpose is, is that when you finally comes to come to grasp and come to understand and come to submit to the fact that your life is not your own, it really is not. We were not created for our pleasure.

I'm going to tell you, this generous, this generation don't preach that gospel. Hope. I'm just going to tell you, they don't preach that. What is. Jesus said, take up your cross and follow me. What is a cross?

Something to die on.

You die on it.

Yeah.

There's only one purpose for a cross. Yes. Take up your cross and follow me. In other words, he says to follow me. There's a lot of things in you that's going to have to die if you're going to make this journey.

Yeah. And that's bottom line. I think that's the baseline. That is the bottom line of selling out, finding out who you really are, wanting to have a fulfilling, pleasurable, enjoyable life that you. Not that it will always be easy. There's always going to be hurdles, there's always going to be pain. That's just life. We live in a sin filled, fallen world where life happens. Your washing machine breaks, your car needs a new battery, your kids show out, you fight with your spouse. I mean, there's just trouble in life. But the baseline bottom line is not my will. Not my will.

I am crucified with Christ. Nevertheless, I live. Yet not me, not me. Christ lives in me. And the life I now live, I live to the Son of God. So Jesus said, whoever loses his life, it's over and over and over in the Bible. So yes, I've counted the cost and yes, I'm afraid. But it's only in dying and losing that I find.

Yes. And it's so true. And those of us who have done it, who finally surrendered and did it, that's why we're over here. Like, yes, if you could just believe. If you could just have faith enough to know that his heart is for you. God's heart is for you. He wants you to live this amazing, abundant life, Jeremiah. But it only comes when you die.

So you die. You pick up his life. Nevertheless, I live not out. Christ liveth in me.

And his life is a life of resurrection.

I know the plans I have, yes. Not of evil plans, good plans of good. To give you a hope and give you a future and a future. So I've got to understand that laying down my stuff, what he's got is better.

It is.

That's the kind of God that he is.

But knowing it's not easy. You gotta get your head around that. Just go on and chunk that up. Life's not gonna be, you know, rainbows and butterflies all the time. And I think we just think that following God and being a Christian, everything's supposed to be easy. And it's not.

Because in this world, you're swimming upstream to follow God in a world that is in sin. You're like the fish swimming upstream. There's always going to be some type of wind blowing in your face.

But you can do it with peace. You can do it with peace that passes understanding. It's a good life. I've never been happier in my life. And what about you?

I wouldn't trade places with anybody.

Maybe, Doc, we've had a lot of opposition.

Absolutely.

I tell you, doing it God's way So fulfilling.

Let me pray for them. Yeah, let me pray for some of you guys who may be right there right now saying, I hear all you say. It's almost overwhelming. I'm right now in a place where I'm just really kind of confused, lost, or you may even be at a crossroads. I'm going to pray that the Holy Spirit will reveal to you this is the way you're to walk in. And if there's something you need to die to, he'll reveal that to you. And I want to encourage you to faith and believe that his plans are better. So, Father, in Jesus name, I just thank you for the time that we've had and I thank you for these people. I thank you for people that are saying, I'm going to trust God and Lord right now in Jesus name. I just ask you to come in and I ask you to give direction. And I ask that confusion be dispersed. And those that are holding on for dear life to their ambitions, may they come to a place of comfort and trust in you where they understand your thoughts are higher than their thoughts, your ways are higher than their ways. And you are the only place of abundant life. We say, yes, Lord, yes. We come to the yield sign and we yield what we want to do to say yes to you. And I pray that you would take our yes. And I pray that a profound blessing would be on it. I pray this for everyone under the sound of our voice in Jesus name, Amen. Amen and amen.

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