Ep 312- Not Getting call backs from UIUX Recruiters
7 Aug 2025 · 15 min
Jagadeesh P breaks down why UI/UX designers aren't getting recruiter callbacks and walks through a seven-step fix: set goals, pick a niche industry, build specific skills, create a strong portfolio, brand yourself, network, and prep for interviews.
It's a big frustration for many designers to not get the call back. Many times recruiter says, do you have experience? We are not only, we are only selecting experienced people. We are not going ahead with the freshers. Sorry, we don't need you. Sorry, we need design degree. We'll get back to you. Are you getting all these callbacks? Are you getting not even a call like this. If you're either in this category, this particular podcast is exactly going to give you the strategies, address you the real pain point, what a designer is going through at this pace. And more importantly, this is going to completely level up your game in the next 30 days if you implement the strategies. What we are discussing along with this. Okay, so with this we'll jump into this podcast. Welcome guys. Welcome, welcome. This is Jagdish. Thank you for staying tuning here in Design for Change. Today we have a very important topic to discuss which is one of the common pain point which people are already asking to me every single day and every single inner circle recharge. Okay, so this is like Jagdish, I'm having no degree. Will people hire me second? Yagnesh, I have no experience. How do I get hired? People are saying I need only experience. They are not going to hire me. And why are you not even getting this kind of a callbacks at least? So those are three, three big, big problems, right? Let me tell you guys, 80% of the UX job listings ask for two years of experience. That's a real truth.
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47 people, 47% of people don't actually require a degree, but they say they do. Okay, see, only 1 in 700 hires in 2023 was purely based on skills. So odds are feeling very much different. Right? But what if you could prove your skills without even waiting for someone to get hired? You first. See, this is the main, main thing which I talk about in our program called 85% Hidden Market.
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If you go through a normal job vacancy, if you don't go through a normal job description, you this kind of a replies and the stat will all apply to you. What if you could approach in a whole new different way so that recruiters are giving you a call back to make sure that they are interested in your profile to hide you. Let me tell you the step one. First of all, make sure you should be absolutely clear on setting your goal towards what is the reason you are coming into this design field and what is your real goal in the next one year, in the next 10 years. And also what are the industry you wanted to focus on. That's a first, very, very important thing. Okay, if you're clear with that, you can be going for the next step. If you're not clear with that, I would highly recommend you to take the process accelerator Clarity. If you're a design for change student, you would be already having that process clarity accelerator or a foundation goal setting mission. We have it in the first, first hackathon mission of any hackathon. Okay, so if you are outside member, I would highly recommend you to come and attend our workshop to know more about it. Because ultimately the first step is very important. Okay, so the step two is finding out the real niche industry which you really wanted to go inside and finding out the gap in that particular market. Let's say if you're finding out niche industry with respect to FinTech, eDutech, SaaS based AR VR, multimedia, entertainment, gaming, There are a lot of fields available in UI UX guys. So you should be absolutely clear on what is the industry which you wanted to go. Okay, step two, the step three is all about learning the skill set which these industries are predominantly facing. Like let's say Most of the SaaS based industries would be requiring designers with respect to wireframes making prototypes and user journey mapping and all these things. So you should be very good in tools like figma prototyping, tools like uizard protopy and you should be very good in terms of using all the plug inside the FIGMA as well. Okay, so that is the second important thing. So finding out the gap, finding out the real world problem and thinking about the skillset which you need to learn. If you're unsure about what kind of skills you learn, it's better you go to the ChatGPT and also you can just type out the industry and automatically you'll be coming to know what are the problem statement they are facing and what are the skill set which you need to learn. Okay, the step three is you need to prepare a very good design thinking methodology. Shown portfolio, not a normal portfolio. Okay, so this is where I cover in my entire masterclass, very deeply called portfolio codecs. It's a four hours masterclass I teach for my students. At the end of the four hours people will be ready with the one project launched in the Framer website itself Live. How many of you wanted to learn that? I would highly recommend you to come to this workshop and in that I'll tell you how we can able to do it in a live step by step guide. So because if you're a fresher or if you're someone who want to enter into this industry. People need to see your skills. The best way to showcase your skill set is to show the problem solving ability in any one format. It's not like you always have behance. Website people will only reject. People will only hire you when you have website. No, this and all is not really correct. You need to show something which is making you prove that you are a skillful guy. See why a recruiter really ask for a design degree? It's to trust you that you are really good in skills or not. If you can able to build that trust in some other way, do you think they will expect degree? Anybody who wants somebody who wants to solve the problem of the industry immediately. For their particular need of the industry, what they have, they really don't require any kind of a big formalities how good you are in completing this design degree and getting gold medal and speaking good and hi fi English. People don't really expect that. That is why. Which leads me to the step four which is called targeting the right industry and need of the hover using the hiring cycle method. This is the most important step out of all because you need to know who really requires your skill set. Same like how you're also having a skill set. No. Ranging from zero to 10. Yeah. You might be in the skill set of two, three or maybe five or even seven. That's okay. Companies will also have a skill set and the growth with respect to 0 to 10.
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So your responsibility is to match your skill set and fine. You cannot match an expectation of a 10 industry which is like a Samsung, Apple, Google. It's not possible for you right now.
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But there are also industries which is in the scale of two or three. Right. Let's say if you're in the scale of two or three, why don't you start with them? So targeting the right companies for your skill set is very important in the targeting. You should also look for hiring sizes.
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Like let's say by the time I'm recording this podcast, there are three hiring cycles which I've gone through in this particular year. The one is January and February. The other one is April, May and June. The other one starts from September. New financial quarter start. So what happens is every time when this hiring cycle goes through, you will see the surplus of job opportunities coming. That means freshers will also be required. Mid level senior people will also be required. So you don't have to think yagdish. Freshers are not hired. Vacancies are not there. I'll ask you one important question. Do you think for a company CEOs are hired more or young graduates and freshers are hired more? I'll repeat this question. Do you think For a company CEOs are required more or freshers and mid level people are required more? Of course you got the answer right. CEOs are very, very few. Mid level people are more, freshest people are huge. That is why the vacancy is always there. You are not having that ability to go and see that market because of that inability. You are thinking that this market is narrow and you have just attended one interview. Talk to one people or maybe less than that, one or two people less than that and then you are thinking the world is closed. So ultimately it's about when are you targeting and what kind of companies you're targeting at that particular time.
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If you're a fresher, I would highly recommend you can start targeting for mid level industries as well as corporates. You can also start targeting for startups, but that would be not recommended. If you're a mid level designer, you can start for mid level companies as well as corporate and big sustainable design studios. If you're an experienced people, you can start targeting small scale industries and mid level students. Why? Because you should not again go for a corporate industry where the learning is getting saturated. So each of the three category people has to target a different industry on a different timing for them. The sixth step comes in building your brand. This is where I'll talk about this brand in a multiple different six elements. The first element is your LinkedIn profile. You need to create a keywords optimization in a way that you are getting hired for that right skill set, for that right industry, for the right mindset. What you have like let's say you can say I'm a fintech designer who's very good in user flow journey and wireframes and prototypings who can solve complex fintech problems using my power of design thinking methodology. I have six months of experience working on my personal project. Yeah, this could be a great keyword. You can create a very good profile picture, a very good cover image which is showing you more professional way of showcasing your skill set as well as your personality. So LinkedIn is a very, very first touch point. Second is creating content and posting regularly on the LinkedIn and commenting on people post. This is like you are engaging with the people's designers and start networking with these people.
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It's not about creating elements in the LinkedIn and keeping it ready. You should be able to start Networking and start targeting to the right industries which you have already targeted. This is the most important step.
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While you're creating content and while you're start targeting the people whom you are targeting for that particular industry, LinkedIn will promote your profile for a lot of people. Then third comes messaging and pitching the pain point. For this you need industry research. This is what I teach very deeply in my particular mentorship support program which is how people can able to learn a more extensive way of targeting the industries so that they can find the pain point, they can find the message, they can find the precise methodology. Let's say if you're not able to do it, at least take your project, which you did in your earlier course or institute or anything or a hackathon, precisely take a one line or two line message and start pitching to many people in that similar industry. Let's say if you're working on a project called Mental Health issues, it would be appropriate if you go and talk to many healthcare industries like let's say 50 to 100 companies. You can take in healthcare industries and start pitching this message, a one liner message showcasing the metrics of your project. So the most important element of the personal branding is messaging and finding the gap and pitching to the people.
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And the fourth element is following it up and talking with the people over and over again. You need to create an Excel sheet, you need to create a 45 day game plan so that every day you're interacting with 30 people. Every day you're following up with the 30 people whom you hired yesterday. So that while you do follow up, you tend to receive lot of callbacks, interview calls and you will get a lot of support with respect to what is your lag in your portfolio, why people are rejecting you. You will build a very friendly relationship with the designers out there. And the last but not the least step is asking for the interview, asking for the mock up, asking for the mock interviews. Even sometimes a designer gets a good trust with you, you can start asking them for a small mock interview. If the designer is really interested to have you in his team, ask them for an interview. Ask them for something like an informational interview. Informational interviews are the most safest way to talk to the people so that you talk about the industry. Hey, my name is so and so and I'm interested in this fintech industries. I can see that you're working in the fintech industry for the last seven years. I would like to know what are the top pain points fintech industries are facing. I'd like to know what are the top three skill set fintech designers are requiring. I would highly recommend you to tell me what are the tools which fintech designers need to learn. See like this, if you do for 10 to 15 people on a weekly basis, you tend to collect lot of research about your industry. By the next week you come, you will be even more clear. You will be precisely correcting your messages, you will be precisely correcting your skill set. You will be even precisely correcting your portfolio on messaging and port on project which you are selecting. You will be even precisely doing your messaging in the LinkedIn so that people can able to find your content research for you and also get back to you. If you follow the six elements automatically, your brand will start building. And the seventh additional bonus is you can start networking with the people whom you know already in the industry who are working like your seniors, your alumni's, your juniors. And also you can go and apply in the portals like LinkedIn, Naukri, Internshala, Job Monsters and Shine.com, glassdoors and all these particular platforms so that 10 or 20% you can try targeting this generic job portals to get job, but 80% you can focus on your niche industry. What you're there. If you are able to do this, there is no point that people will ask you degrees. Why? Because you are built a trust, you have built a value, you have built a particular brand in front of them and then you're showcasing and asking that people despite if they ask design degrees and all. No ma', am, I'm looking for people who can help me understand how the industry works. And also I just wanted to do a research with what this industry requires. I'm not looking for any job. Thank you. See now you're also building a trust, but at the same time you are rejecting that person more than they rejecting you. If again the HR is asking, hey, we need design degree, you can say, ma', am, are you looking for people who are with a degree or are you looking for people with a skill set who can solve problem? If you're looking for degree people, I don't think I'm really fit here because I'm looking for people who can hire me, who can see the real problem solving inside me. If you're in that zone, we can continue the conversation or else it's better you can go for the other candidates. Thank you. See, you are literally creating a respect among the recruiters by answering like this question. We require two, three years of experience. Ma', am, experienced people are having a little bit of experience with respect to their niche industry. They are more expecting salaries, they are more in demand with their skill set and they are biased towards that particular industry. But I am a fresher, I am completely young and I can able to mold to your industry needs and I am also not expecting that level of salary. You can have me as an internship like this. If you start answering you can tackle out all these possibilities so that you can able to get your first interview calls. If you do this for the next 45 days guys you will get at least 15 to 20 interview calls. Out of this 15 to 20 interview calls you will be able to at least crack one or two or three. If you can able to crack one or two or three, choose at least want to start yourself as an intern in the next three months you work as an intern. I'm telling you guys, after the fourth month you will be able to get minimum 6 to 8 LPA. If you're able to resonate with this podcast, please comment that what is the top three learnings in this podcast because I've given you the entire nutrition in just six step formula and broke down each and every element. Because many people are applying for the jobs but they are not getting it. Many people are applying for the job, many people are applying for boot camps, they are getting a lot of job opportunities vacancies and the UX market is demanded for 53% growth since 2018 and AI assisted tools can improve your learning even up to 10x faster. But despite doing all these things people are losing out because they don't know this entire core methodology what I taught you. Okay so learn this tool called uizart figma AI relium notion copy AI kick resume tealhq tableau hypefurry for LinkedIn writing, user research for perplexity and user research for usability.com and maze and UX tweak and all these tools will be completely helpful. 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