J.T. Books & Films on the Chriss Voss Podcast

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Folks, it's Voss here from thechrisvossshow.com. There you go, ladies and gentlemen, the Iron Lady sings and that makes it official. Welcome to the big show. As always, the Chris Voss Show is the family that loves you, doesn't judge you as harshly as the rest of the world because you're here to learn, grow, and make your life better and make the world better hopefully too as well. Uh, uh, refer the show to your family, friends, and relatives. Go to goodreads.com/chrisvoss linkedin.com/chrisvoss, youtube.com/chrisvoss, and support the oldest podcast in existence that still broadcasts daily. That's us, just a handful of us left, and I'm the only one doing dailies. So there you go. Uh, today we had an amazing young man on the show. We're going to talk to him about his book called The Green Glitch: What's Behind the Devil's Lettuce by Jason Tremko. We're going to end it with him and his details and find out more about what he's talking about, what he's up to, and what he's written about in his book. He is a retired U.S. Army veteran, educator, award-winning author and filmmaker, and a recovery advocate from Western North Carolina. After serving 20 years in the military, including 9 years as a recruiting station commander, interviewing and meeting thousands of young people, he began noticing a troubling pattern tied to substance abuse, high-potency THC products. That concern deepened over his years as a high school teacher and youth mentor, where students increasingly opened up about addiction, anxiety, dependency, and emotional withdrawal connected to modern cannabis culture. Motivated by his firsthand experiences, he wrote his book and the documentary film that he's made exploring the hidden impact of today's marijuana industry, especially on youth and family, through research, personal stories, and frontline experience, uh, and challenges cultural assumption including legalization, and asks difficult questions about normalization, addiction, mental health, and the future generation being helped by high potency THC. Welcome to the show. How are you, Jason?

I'm doing pretty well. There you go.

There you go. Well, that's, uh, that's a good day to be on since we're only on Tuesday. So hey, that's right, you know, you can save the complaints for Friday. But, uh, yeah, I don't know, I'm just joking around. Uh, so Jason, give us your dot-coms. Where do you want people to find you on the internet, sir?

Yeah, so, um, I'm pretty active on social media, so YouTube is really my, my go-to. So if you go to YouTube Search JT Books and Films with the and sign. Um, that's the best way to find me, or just search Jason Tremko Books, um, and you'll find me on there.

There you go. And you've got it on Apple TV too, the movie?

That's right.

Yep, yep.

Green Glitch, uh, it's distributed by BitMax out in California. It's on Apple TV, it's on Google Play, and, uh, YouTube Movies.

All right, this is your first movie, book, uh, book and/or movie?

Well, it's actually my second book, um, you know, but I figured, you know what, why not just do a film and a book together, you know? So I'm out kind of doing the, uh, the film circuits right now, and I've actually made it into 8 different film festivals.

Oh really? Wow!

Got best documentary, uh, out of 4 of them, so I'm pretty excited about that.

Maybe you have a future— future is one of those documentary folks, eh? Hey, you never know. Who was that guy? Michael Moore, I think, did that, and then there's a guy who did the McDonald's thing. Where he ate McDonald's for 30 days. He kind of did a whole series of other things. And so yeah, if you kind of get that genre of talking about stuff, people like it, they'll follow you. So give us a 30,000-foot overview— what's in your book and the movie?

Well, so basically, um, when I, when I started this project, you know, I was thinking it's going to be a difficult project to get into. You know, obviously it's kind of not a popular opinion, you know, to, to be writing about the negatives of high-potency marijuana, um, you know. But when I actually started researching, I found a lot of stuff that was kind of like right in front of my face. It was— it's obvious, it's, it's in plain sight. It's kind of hidden in plain sight, you know. So it actually ended up being a very easy project to write about. And, uh, you know, I was like, I'm gonna put my skills together with, with, uh, video editing, turn it into a film as well. And it's been pretty well received. Um, yeah, I've been kind of surprised, you know, because 70% of people are, you know, in favor of legalizing marijuana. Um, you know, the first thing I want to say is I'm not here to, you know, demonize people and say, hey, you know, you shouldn't be smoking weed. My job is just to educate people, and I'm more, you know, more focusing on how it's affecting kids, you know, because, you know, I've spent a lot of time working with them, with young people, youth, and, uh, and kids, and there's a major problem that people aren't really seeing at that level. So I'm kind of trying to bring that to the surface.

Their brains are still developing, right?

Yeah, of course.

I know some people on Twitter who have that— might be the owner. Uh, the, uh, we use that to call back joke, kick Twitter around. Um, and I'm never gonna call it whatever it— what name they're calling now. Anyway, jokes aside, um, but yeah, I mean, and, and I, you know, I'm someone who's lived in Las Vegas for 25, 30 years now or something like that. Something like 20+ years. And, uh, uh, you know, there's a, there's a distinct line between addicts who have addiction personality types and the people that don't. Um, you know, I've, I've been one of those people that, thank God, I don't have an addiction personality. Otherwise I probably would have— I'd probably be broke living in the, you know, down by the river. Um, you know, now I'm living up from the river when I'm still in a van, but I'd be down by the river if I'd Right. But, uh, uh, you know, in Vegas you see, you know, the, the statements I think they make on people that are addicted to gambling, drugs, alcohol. You know, an addictive personality is going to be addictive to anything— picking your nose, whatever. Um, although that's probably safer than gambling and alcohol and drugs. But, uh, well, I don't know, you could just bleed yourself to death. Anyway, sorry, there's a lot of macabre horror shit going through my brain, I guess. Um, but so we had a horror author on yesterday who had has some great, great things. But, uh, you know, I've seen the difference between people that have addiction in Vegas and character personalities of people that don't. And I think most of us don't have addictive personalities, but the numbers they underst— they state in Vegas for people that are addicted to stuff are way— I mean, it's just, it's just PR that they're just putting. There's way more people. I swear to God, it's like 30%.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's kind of the same thing with, with, with kids. And high-potency marijuana, you know. So, you know, I kind of lived it out with my own kid, um, and that's, that's what kind of really made me get into it, you know. It's like, what's going on here? You know, I saw it as a military recruiter, um, over, you know, my 9 years and saw how it kind of had that, that pull on kids. And, you know, they wouldn't give up the weed. They'd rather smoke the weed than to go make something of themselves, you know. So I kind of saw it, but then when it hit home with my own daughter, you know, it was like, wow, you you know, there's more going on here than what people realize. And then I started seeing those same patterns in, in kids at schools, and, and I was like, man, you know, this, this is something that needs to be discussed.

So yeah, and I imagine as these, uh, what are those things, those electric cigarettes?

Yeah, your carts and your vapes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I've watched people adapt to that vape crap, and I'm like, didn't we have this stuff with smoking? I grew up in the smoking era where they You know, we eventually got rid of most of it and, you know, created a social stigma where, you know, enough people, um, you know, every time I bump into a smoker, you know, smoking outside a building, I'm like, they still make you? Like, but somehow these vape things became like a thing, and the kids love it because, you know, the flavors of child flavors of cherry and, you know, and, you know I don't think they ever had cherry cigarettes. Maybe they did.

I don't know.

I never smoked any, so I wouldn't know. But yeah, and so I can see why this is a big problem. You talk in the book about how, uh, in THC was maybe 3% in the '70s.

Yeah.

And now it's ultra high potency. Talk to us about that research.

Yeah, so, you know, like you said, you know, '60s and '70s, it was 1 to 3% typically. So, you know, there's a major narrative thing, you know, because if you meet people you know, I'm 43, so if you meet people, you know, my age or a little bit older, when they talk about marijuana, you know, they'll say things like, it's not addictive, you know, or I could quit cold turkey. But that's because a lot of times they're associating with what marijuana used to be, right? Marijuana is not the same drug anymore. So, you know, my daughter, the very first time she used marijuana, it was at 60% strength.

Oh really?

So, and that's, that's very common. I was actually, uh, talking with the sheriff out here a couple days ago, they, they just found a 500-milligram gummy. Oh yeah, at a middle school, 8th grade.

Oh wow. So yeah, that's not, that's not the place for that.

Yeah, so I can't even do a 500.

I, I, I can't. I don't need to do 50. Give me a break. 500?

Yep. So, you know, imagine like smoking this stuff all day long, you know, like my daughter did. I mean, she got to the point where she was all day she'd have to wake up in the middle of the night to be able to feel good in the morning. And it eventually led to her having Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome, which is, uh, kind of a newer thing that doctors are finally starting to acknowledge.

Is it a lung thing?

No, it's, it's, uh, basically if you don't have marijuana in your system, it makes it where you can't eat. So, oh really? Yep. So my daughter, you know, when she would try to quit, she would end up puking so much Really? She'd be sick all day, you know, and it got to the point where she was like, I'd rather just stay smoking because it's easier than to try to quit.

It's almost like an opioid withdrawal.

Yeah, it really is. Yeah, and that's because, you know, she was using up to 90% strength with, with these waxes and oils and stuff that the kids are using. Yeah, so it's, you know, a lot of people don't realize that that's happening to the young people, you know, and that's, that's mainly what they have access to. You know, they can't walk around school smoking a blunt that smells up and down the hall, you know? They're hitting these high potency products that are very high strength, so... Yeah!

Years ago, my first run-in with marijuana... no, it wasn't my first run-in. My friend would always try and get me high smoking it and it just wouldn't work for me and I have a high tolerance for drugs which has actually been pretty good to keep me out of trouble, I suppose and... And then one day I visited his house in California after California legalized marijuana. And, you know, I was 350 pounds, a very large guy, and he tried to get me high on a couple times, and we'd burn through a lot of marijuana. And, uh, he, you know, he— hey, that was $100 worth of marijuana and you just, you feel nothing? I'm like, yeah, I— sorry, man, I just thank God. I mean, any other drug, I'm the same way. I have a high tolerance. Even Tylenol, I have to take 3 or 4 Tylenol to do what normal people would do with 1 or 2, right? And, uh, so, uh, I, I— he gave me a cookie and he goes, uh, here, here's— I got you a cookie, you know, maybe you— maybe this will work if you eat it. And it was a 100mg cookie or something like that. And, uh, and I never really consumed, uh, uh, the thing. And I said, well, how much should I eat? I— well, he goes, you should probably eat like half. And I go, and I go, okay, well— and he goes, no, I just see the whole thing because, man, you're really, you're really fighting stuff. And, man, I went through the worst freaking, uh, ride of, of— for 24 hours where I was throwing up and going through hallucinations. And I think I threw up everything that I'd ever eaten in the past 2 weeks. My system was clean by the time I was done. And it was really bad because I You know, I, I definitely eaten out way beyond my thing. And so I stayed off of marijuana for a long time, but now the doses I take are like 10 milligrams, 15 milligrams. And I can't imagine a 500 milligram gummy or even 100 running around some kids that have never done that before. And they're young and small and they have no, you know, they have no, uh, what's that where you kind of build up a—

yeah, tolerance.

Tolerance. Yeah, there you go.

Yeah, and just imagine, you know, like, you know, most of the kids, you know, if you actually watch my documentary, um, I have kids that are on there that, you know, they started, you know, 10, 11 years old.

Jeez.

With this high potency stuff. And interestingly, you know, if you go around, you know, I would challenge you or anybody listening, go, go to a Walmart or something, run into a kid that looks like they're about 13 or 14 years old, and just ask them how many people what percentage they think in their school actually smokes, right? Most of the kids that I've talked to, they're going to tell you 75, 80%, um, you know, and this is, you know, 10, 11 years old. So, you know, the, the, you know, while people are celebrating legalization, you know, they're not realizing that this is affecting kids at the low levels, you know, young ages, you know, and it's, uh It's leading to, like I said, you know, CHS. And the fact is, you know, 44.7% of users are advancing on to harder drugs. Yeah, you know, so—

and I really believe that, I really believe that smoking it is just not good. With these electronic cigarettes, there's been a bunch of these weird things where, I mean, you got people that in their teens on oxygen vents uh, where their lungs are gone from, you know, the complications. You know, some explode in your face, I guess, some of the cheap ones.

Yeah, I've known two students had to get their lungs pumped. It was crazy.

Really?

You—

they could do that? Yeah, yeah, it doesn't sound fun at all, man.

Yeah, it doesn't at all. Yeah.

Oh, that's a— I'll stick to edibles. But, uh, you know, and the addiction thing, you know, I've had friends that, that, you know, they do the same thing with cigarettes. They've got a they'll wake up in the middle of the night to smoke a cigarette, just like your daughter would to smoke the blunt. And, uh, and I'm like, dude, you know, if I reach a point where I can't— where I can just be like, yeah, I'll get that later. Like, I, you know, I drank pretty heavily for most of my life, and I had to drink heavily because, like I say, I have a high tolerance. So it had to be, you know, half a bottle of vodka or whatever, and I get a basic buzz as most people would. There's a lot of consumption that has to take place. And so, um, you know, I drank pretty heavily for— and for a long time it was, it was like energy juice for me as an entrepreneur. It was, you know, I got stuff to do at the end of the night, drink some vodka. Oh, I got 2 or 3 more hours of drive time, um, and get, get my stuff done. But I, you know, I wasn't up in the middle of the night. If I ran out of vodka and it was past hours to be driving, or I had gotten some in me, you know, shouldn't be driving, I'd just be like, fuck it, I'll just get some tomorrow, whatever. It was never a big deal. But for my friends that have addicts, you know, I've had addict friends that, you know, they'll drink for alcohol. They'll drink the— they'll drink the hairspray. I had a girlfriend who drank hairspray, um, when she couldn't get booze. Uh, what was the other thing they would drink? I mean, this is nasty shit. Um, what they would do— oh, uh, Vicks, like Vicks, uh, NyQuil stuff. Yeah, it's got a little bit of alcohol in it. That's all they're looking for. They're looking for that hit.

And see soldiers doing that overseas.

That's crazy, man.

Yeah.

And, uh, you know, I imagine if you're doing marijuana, they don't let you in the, in the military, right? You're a recruiter.

No, they don't. Yeah. And that's actually, you know, one of the things that really interested me, you know, because it's like, you know, marijuana had such a high, you know, pull on these kids. They'd rather, they'd rather live in the worst living conditions, you know, knowing they need to join the military, but it was just too hard to give up the marijuana. You know?

Yeah.

So it's like, you know, I have trouble accepting that that's not a problem, you know?

Yeah. I mean, you don't want— these are the best years of life. You don't want to tune out. I mean, I built— I started building multi-millionaire companies. I built my first company, I was 18. I built our first two multi-millionaire companies at 22. Um, these are the best years of life. I'm always telling my niece and nephew that. I'm like, I, I would kill an evil person to be your age again. Like, like, for real. And they're just like, you would really murder somebody? I'm like, if they were evil, they'd have to be really evil, but I would, I would do it because, right, I would kill to be 20, especially if I, I could know what I know now. And you know, I didn't start marijuana usage till 2017, I think, when Vegas legalized it, right? Um, and so as a grown adult, and even with booze, like, with booze I quit. I just, one day, I just, there's, you know, you get old, your body, you look at booze and you get a hangover, your body's just like, fuck you, we're not doing this anymore with you. And, uh, so I just quit. Same thing with Mountain Dew. I used to drink 10 to 15 Mountain Dews a day. I just quit one day.

That's what kept you going on the show.

Yeah, there you go. And, uh, you know, and so it's, it's, uh, you know, but I don't have addictive personality, and my brain was fully developed by that time. And I don't know, my— I didn't really start even drinking until 30, so I skipped the whole, you know, youth getting into the whatever, you know. I think I tried a cigarette when I was like 12 or something. That was like so gross, and I was like, spit that out. But, you know, if you have an addictive personality, you know, I'd like to say, living in Vegas, I've seen that a lot. Uh, now it says you're a 12-step recovery leader. Have you been through the addiction process, recovery process, or did you get involved in that with your daughter?

Yeah, so, you know, I, I worked with a 12-step recovery program back in Virginia, you know, quite a few years ago. Um, it was after that actually that I went through with my daughter. Um, you know, so then it kind of— once I started writing this book and the film and everything, I was kind of like, you know what, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get back into this, you know. And since then, you know, I've made the connections out here in western North Carolina. And, um, you know, we're, we're kind of just working together to— we're actually working on a grant right now out here to, to expand the recovery options, um, because there's not a lot of options for people. There's a lot of people struggling with addiction, you know, especially out here in Western North Carolina. So we're trying to give, uh, opportunities for people, um, you know. But my work is more focused on, um, you know, the underlying factors, you know what I'm saying? Because, you know, again, 40— 44%— or excuse me, 44.7% of marijuana users will advance onto harder drugs. Yeah, you know, so that's, that's almost half, you know. So in my opinion, we got to take the, uh, the drugs out of the, out of the kids' hands.

Yeah, you know, I was lucky. My advancement into cocaine, all it did was give me a post-nasal drip that wasn't like— I felt like I had a cold, and then a little bit of a coffee rush, and I was like, this is it. But you know, I have that high crazy tolerance and I'm not gonna—

everybody's different.

I mean, I'm really lucky I had that. Um, but, but yeah, I can see how people get into other things. And a lot of times, like, what you talk about is addressing the underlying issues.

One thing I noticed—

yeah, one thing I noticed is, is like, I started watching the rehab shows back at WECK when they were kind of hot there for a while. I think the one guy, Dr. What's-His-Face from an MTV show had— I forget his name, but he had a— he had a— he was a doctor and he had like— they used to have a sex show with one of the other podcasts, uh, first early podcasters on MTV. And, uh, and then he had a rehab show, so you could see his— I think it was La Cañada or something, uh, California. And but you could, you know, they have like these stars come there and all these people. And what became apparent watching these shows is that A lot of people that use drugs, you know, they're trying to medicate either some sort of childhood trauma or issues that they have. And if those could be addressed, that would really be a thing. Uh, you know, a lot of people that abuse drugs are medicating the trauma that they have unresolved. A lot of times it's sexual trauma in childhood. And so they're going to go through life just constantly trying to medicate the pain when really, somebody needs to sit down with them and be like, "Let's talk about your childhood!" Yeah!

That's true! Yeah, a lot of the kids you know, that I've talked to and interviewed and stuff for my book and film and whatnot, you know, that's— you're exactly right! You know, a lot of times that's where it started from, so—

Yeah! Yeah! And so, sitting down with those people and getting them help, you know, a lot of times if they go through you know, recovery with counseling and stuff and they can deal with those things. Yeah! You know, you mentioned about the potency thing. So right now in America, most states— there's some that you can't, I think California just added themselves to the list— but most states you can order under the Farm Bill, uh, from just about anybody across the nation in any format of— you can offer— you can get the 500 milligrams, the 100 milligrams, the 10 or 15, 5, you know, you get in all different variances and you can have delivered to your house in a state where it's technically illegal to have marijuana.

Yep.

And somehow there's kind of, I guess, some wink and nod. I guess as long as you don't buy enough to come across as a dealer or start selling it, that'll get you in trouble.

Yeah, well, that's, that's interesting too, you know, because, you know, still even in states that it's legal to consume recreational, it's still illegal to consume it while driving.

Yeah.

And, um, you know, like I said, I peel back the onion, and actually one of the, one of the things that I found out was, um, in Montgomery County, Ohio. Um, they actually had researched some coroner reports and they found out that 42% of people that were killed in car crashes actually had marijuana in their system, recently used.

Wow.

And, uh, Chicago— or excuse me, Boston University, um, actually took it to the federal level and they analyzed the Department of Transportation records and found out from 2000 to 2018— that's a long period of time, 18 years— that, uh, cannabis-related deaths actually more than doubled. Um, so it's kind of consistent with what Montgomery County found. So, you know, it's illegal to drive in all 50 states while consuming cannabis, you know, you're impaired.

And, and I mean, if you take, you know, if you take, like, I take cannabis at night, uh, to fall asleep, and with the edibles, and, you know, even the next morning I'll feel still inhibited. So, you know, I'm not going to go driving and stuff. It's still obviously in my system.

It's good that you could be honest about it too, because, you know, most people, they won't be honest about it, you know. Like, they want to fight me over, over these tough conversations, you know.

No, I mean, there's probably— I, I've often wondered how long it stays in my system. It may be in my system for 24 to 48 hours.

Yeah, like Benadryl. I take 2 Benadryl, I'm done for like 24 hours, man. It's crazy. That stuff knocks me down.

Yeah. And, and I mean, you can literally order this stuff Yeah, um, anywhere in the nation. I'm looking right now. I, I don't remember on the companies that I use, um, if they ever check my, uh, real ID or validated that I was of age. I mean, some of these companies, you know, it's kind of some wacky, uh, every time. I'm probably gonna start getting ads now because I just Googled 500 milligram THC. Um, but, uh, yeah, uh, we should, uh, I'll look at this. But yeah, so you, you made the film of it Yeah, this is a big deal. I mean, if young, young kids should not be able to get a hold of these drugs and other things, their brains are still developing, and we certainly wouldn't want to end up like people on Twitter.

Um, yeah, it's really interesting. The, the sheriff I was talking to, this guy told me, and I didn't even know this, this is interesting. Um, I know it's in North Carolina, it may be federal, I don't know, but apparently there's no age limit for somebody to purchase cannabis. Probably on the end of the farm bill, tobacco, but not for cannabis, you know. So that's something that in my opinion really needs to be changed.

So yeah, it's kind of a weird thing, this farm bill, that like I was like, well, it's illegal in some states, you know. Like one of my friends wanted me to ship some, uh, some marijuana supplies down to Texas. They were visiting Texas, they were flying in from Australia, and I'm like, I can't do that, it's fucking Texas, man. Yeah. Uh, yeah, they don't— they're not, they're not really, uh, the most excited THC people down there, from what I understand. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, you don't want to go to jail. But evidently, you know, with this farm bill, you can send this stuff anywhere. But, you know, even, even kids getting a hold of stuff. So there was like a, um, you know, my stuff is locked up and it's high on a shelf and stuff, but my dog a couple months ago was in the backyard and he was exhibiting— maybe he had a poisonous spider bite— he was exhibiting some sort of poisoning. And, uh, it was kind of a pass-out poison. The only time I ever seen it is when my puppy was bitten. She tried to chew up a spider and it bit her, and she was so small and she was succumbing to, uh, you know, a health collapse, falling over and couldn't stay awake, and we had to rush her to the ER. And so it was that same sort of thing, but someone suggested that looks like cannabis poisoning. And I'm like, well, there's no way that she would get mine. And then I realized that we have all these young kids that throw shit in my yard on all three areas. Utah, there's a lot of kids here, and, uh, way too many kids, I think. And, uh, and so they throw shit in my yard, and I don't know, I'm like, maybe somebody just thought it was funny to throw maybe an edible in the yard or whatever to see what my dog would do. But yeah, when we took him in I don't think he exhibited anything that would, uh, I think we tested for that. We did a big blood test on him. But you know, it's dangerous stuff, man. A baby gets a whole— can you imagine a baby on a whole 500 THC thing? Yeah, some teenager thought it would be funny, you know, to give to a dog or give it to a baby or, you know, somebody who's, who's not suspecting it coming. And that's just way— number one, way too much to start with, if anything. And then I think I think there needs to be more determination, like in schools. We need to talk about people who have— people who have, uh, addiction, uh, personalities.

Yeah, yeah.

Because I mean, I can walk— you know, I've had friends that have addiction, gambling problems, and of course they, they're all the same. They smoke, they drink, and drugs, whatever it is they're addicted to. Eating too much when they gave up, uh, right, you know, cigarettes or something. And so I'll take You know, they're like, hey, I want to go down the casino, we'll go down the local casino. And me, I walk in there and I see all the opulence and I go, yeah, this game's rigged against me, fuck, I'm not playing it, right? But he walks in and he sees the light, dude, he will, he will become, he will change, he'll become another person. And it's like they're obsessed in a, in a, in a thing, and they're just like almost like hypnotic. And you're just like, hey dude, wake up, man, yeah, what are you doing in here? Real hit table over here, man. Uh, let's go get some D, you know. So that difference, and, you know, identifying those people early on and letting people know, hey, by the way, you have an addictive personality— that would be great to know early on because then maybe you can have some conscious awareness, maybe, of— yeah, you can get into—

it seems like a lot of the, you know, the students that I run into, you know, because once I started, you know, kind of seeing, you and talking to my daughter and helping her through her stuff, you know, I kind of picked up on the trends, you know. So, you know, the morning sickness and stuff like that. So I would see the kids coming to school, and instead of just, you know, you know, kind of beating around the bush about it, I just asked them straight up, you know, like, you know, are you smoking pot? Um, and they trust me, you know. So, you know, they know I'm not the type that's going to write them up and send them to the administration, you know, because I understood after going through it with my daughter that it's actually addiction, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I started just ask them straight up, you know, are you smoking pot? You know, and then I would ask them, do you like it? Do you want to keep doing it, or do you want to quit? You know, and most of the time the kids actually, they, they want to quit, but they know they're addicted to it. And most of the time, you know, they've been using for a long time, you know, which actually right now I'm running an ad, uh, that's, that's titled 60% of parents don't know their kids are smoking high-potency products. And that's actually the stats right now. 60% of parents don't know that their kids are using. So, um, and I was one of them, you know, because like I said, my kids, uh, you know, she was already addicted to high-potency products by the time I find out.

Wow.

She used it for 2, 3 years, you know. And, and most parents don't have a clue. So, you know, you see kids that are struggling in school, you know, and actually You know, some of the stats that I've read are showing that marijuana-using kids under the age of 18, you know, they're twice as likely to drop out of school. Um, you know, so, you know, you got kids that are struggling. And one of the kids on my documentary film, uh, his name's JB. So if you see the, uh, the film, he actually came to me because I helped him out getting clean and stuff. He'd been, you know, smoking since he was 11 years old, struggled all the way through middle school. High school, and now he's making straight A's, you know.

So that's good.

Yeah, he came to me and said, hey, can I, can I talk on your film?

Yeah. So that's awesome.

Kind of shares his story, you know. So yeah, you know, I think the big thing is parents need to be aware, um, and realize that it is a problem. It is an addiction, uh, that's, that's starting at a young age with kids. And, you know, we got to start having the tough conversations.

It really interferes with the learning. I can't imagine— like I said, I didn't start drinking till my late 20s. I was busy running companies. I didn't time off. And, uh, uh, and then I really didn't start cannabis till 2017, so 10 years ago, something like that. I don't know. No, hold on, that'd be 26. Mine— no, anyway, whatever it was when Vegas started. Yeah, clearly, clearly I'm taking too much TMC. The brain is going dead. Or I'm 58 and the brain's going, one of the two. Or I've done too many podcasts today. Um, But, uh, uh, you know, I'm just old, folks. That's just it. The brain's gone. Um, but, uh, yeah, I mean, being at that age where you're in development, your brain's still developing, you're still trying to figure all your stuff out. You know, the reason I like THC, and I only use it at night to go to sleep— I, I have— yeah, when you get older, you have trouble sleeping. It's like, it's like they go, they go, hey man, if you're old, you gotta sleep 8 hours, you're gonna die. And you're like, well, I'm gonna die because I can't sleep it out. You know, your body just doesn't— is, is like in this weird state when you get 5 hours nowadays.

Yeah.

And so I take THC mostly to sleep. It's a bedtime pill that I take, and, and, uh, I go sleep like a baby. Do I want to drive a car? Hell no. I don't want to do anything.

I'm sorry, now are you taking CBD gummies?

Uh, CBD in the, in the THC?

Yeah, yeah, I got you.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

And, uh, um, and so I sleep, but, you know, and I'm not driving anywhere. But like you mentioned before, it's really become a problem. I can tell because I, I see there's lots of road signs from the, from, you know, advocates and police department saying, hey, if you're buzzed driving, you're, you're, you're, you're in a DUI, you're, you're out, you're under, you're out of control. But I can't imagine being young doing that when you're trying to function and build a life and become something. I waited long down the road. Yeah, to where I had a lot of control. Thankfully too, with social media and all those things, like the kids that grow up with this shit nowadays, they're under so much pressure because, because they have to feel like they conform to all the fake millionaires, you know, fronting on Instagram and crap. So now, did you mention CBD? Is there, is there also same issues with CBD?

Uh, no, no, that— no, no, that's, you know, um you know, CBD, that's a whole different— that's a whole different product, you know. So yeah, I don't even— I don't even worry about some people.

Some people like CBD. I call it— I call it like liquor light or marijuana light, right? But, uh, I, you know, somebody gave me some CBD stuff and I was like, well, that's really cute, that's nice. Uh, I don't know what that did, but, uh, I guess maybe whatever. Uh, but yeah, it's— it— young people, you know, and especially these high things. I, I gotta check. I don't even know if they check for my driver's license. I think they did take my driver's license since the company did, but there's now so many of them that are doing it now, so who knows? Maybe you could probably find somebody who'll give you a wink and a nod and slide one by it.

Yeah, well, now, you know, a lot of people don't realize, uh, there was a kid actually, Texas, like you said, they actually just prosecuted a kid. I think he was, he was 17 years old. I wrote about it in my book. I can't remember his name right off the top of my head. But, um, he actually, uh, killed— I think it was 5 people— and they put him away for life. Uh, they prosecuted him, you know, for, for high-potency marijuana in his system. And they're actually, you know, they, they, they know they can prosecute people with it now, but the problem is you can't see how recently it was used unless you, you're going through a coroner report. Yeah, you know, so, you know, they're, they're working on developing testing methods that law enforcement can use Um, you know, so, you know, because again, if almost half of people getting killed in car crashes have marijuana in their system, is that a reason for concern? You know, um, in my opinion, it definitely is.

Um, it says here that THC stays in your system— I'm just Googling this— uh, from anywhere from a few days to several months.

Yeah, and that's the thing too, you know, the old school marijuana, like 30 days, you know, people would go to the store, you'd take some you know, uh, what's that juice everybody would drink? Uh, cranberry juice or something, you know, to clear it out your system. Yeah, you know, but now the modern stuff, that stays in your system for like 90 to 120 days. Yeah, you know, so I learned that when I was a recruiter because I'd be like, dude, there's no way you quit smoking. Yeah, I haven't used it in 60 days. And I'm like, no way, dude, you know. So, but now I understand, you know.

Yeah, this is your chronic daily use, 10 to 15 days. Chronic heavy use, multiple times daily, 30 to 90. You know, I remember staying with my one friend who, uh, had an addictive personality. And yeah, I remember I was, I was crashed at his house in California and I heard something in the middle of the night. I got up because I was like, oh, somebody breaking the house or something, what's going on? And I think my dogs were, uh, barking. And, and so I got up and he was outside smoking like at 2 AM or 3 AM. I'm like, dude, it's freezing fucking cold out here, man. What are you doing? Yeah, like, like if I woke up in the middle of night, I was like, it'd be nice to have some vodka. I'd be like, yeah, well, I'm not. I'm asleep. Bye. Good night. Shut up. Do it tomorrow, you know? And, uh, and I mostly have used, uh, between alcohol and, and Kabanist pretty much to go to bed at night, right? Uh, I don't know, drinking and thinking you're sleeping better is the dumbest thing ever, and I did that for 20 years.

Well, imagine taking 90%, you know, or 70% in a cart while you're dropping off your fifth grade.

Oh yeah.

At the school parking lot.

And you see people, you see people vaping all the time, and you don't know if they're vaping like cigarette stuff or that's legal technically.

Some people are doing both, you know.

Yeah, they're doing both, or they're doing the one. And, um, but man, you go to California, you can damn smell it, man. I just recently went to California, and anytime around LAX I was standing around outside, it would just come from everywhere, and I was just like, holy crap. Oh yeah.

Yeah, I'll be out there this October. Um, my book was, uh, or is a finalist for the International Impact Book Award, so I'll actually be out in Hollywood this, this October. So, but I, I usually tell people, you know, the stuff that you can smell, I'm less concerned about that. You know, the stuff that you can't smell is what the kids are using, and that's that high potency stuff.

Yeah, the edibles too. Yeah, you know, so that's even chronic, uh, what is it, what is it here, hair follicle tests can pick up 90 days.

Yeah, yep.

Wow.

Some can, some can pick it up forever.

Yeah, the, uh, you know, and it's an interesting thing, but, uh, yeah, I mean, what do you, what's your, you know, you work with the military and stuff and have worked with the military in the past, um, what are your feelings on, on veterans that are using it for PTSD? We've had a lot of people on the show that like it for that.

Yeah, so, you know, I, I've done a lot of thinking about this. You're not the first first person that's asked me that. Um, here's what I would tell people, and I wrote about this in my book. Um, if you look at how many people are on antidepressants, okay, to include veterans, um, you know, for PTSD and things like that— I get it, I've been there, I've got my combat tours in, you know, I get it, been there— um, you know, there's a large percentage of people that are on antidepressants, okay? You could do a simple Google search and look up the dangers of using high-potency marijuana with antidepressants. Okay, in most cases it's actually making symptoms worse. So, you know, the antidepressants themselves are known to have side effects that can cause suicide. Wow. We're, we're the second largest suicide community in the United States, you know. So, so, so you're already at risk, you're taking antidepressants, but now you're smoking a whole bunch of high-potency you marijuana on top of it, you know, what do you think is going to happen? You know, and it's the same thing with kids, you know, because— and I wrote about this, uh, my daughter, you know, she started struggling with, uh, anxiety and things like that. So what do we do? We take her to the doctor, try to get her some help like any good parent would do. Um, you know, doctor asks her, are you smoking marijuana? And of course she says no, right? She doesn't want to get in trouble. Um, you know, they can't tell the parents, they can't tell the school because they're in trouble, you know, administration. They're going to get in trouble if they're, if they're smoking pot right at school, you know. So, you know, they lie to the doctor, so then the doctor prescribes them antidepressants. Then the kid continues to smoke the marijuana, the high potency products, 70, 80, 90% strength, on top of an antidepressant. So, you know, parents are like, what's happening? Why are my kids' symptoms getting worse? You see what I'm saying? So it's something I wrote about, um, but I think, you know, in regards to your question, it definitely affects the veteran community. And I think a lot of times we, we may be making situations worse instead of better.

Yeah.

Without even realizing it, or we just don't want to be honest about it, you know?

Yeah. And one of the reasons, uh, I should post that, you know, why I waited till I was in my late 20s and early 30s, uh, well, I would have been in my 40s, I think, when I started marijuana. Late 40s. Um, the one reason I waited is because my parents read us the riot act on drugs from a very early age.

Yeah.

And they were Mormons, and they were, you know, you don't take drugs and or even caffeine if you're Mormon. Uh, well, you do now after the Mormon Church bought the Coke facility company. Then they, then they made it okay. It's kind of weird how that works. Uh, they have like a trillion-dollar investment company Uh, so, but you know, they're also church. Um, but, uh, yeah, so my parents drilled that into us and they put a lot of fear into us and, and, you know, told us a lot about a lot of addiction issues. And yeah, my grandfather had died from alcoholism. He was one of those guys who, who had addictive personality and he had like bottles hidden everywhere. They had rental homes and properties he'd oversee and different things. And when he died, they found like all these hidden vodka bottles. And so I'm lucky I didn't pick up the disease from inheritance from him, but, uh, of addiction. But, you know, it's something that, you know, a lot of, a lot of people that have come on the show, you know, a lot of the veterans we found the show to talk about PTSD. Yeah, I really feel for him because they have a lot going on with that. And different, you know, I had one, one time I took a drone up in my neighborhood in Vegas to film some fireworks, and I flew it right up into the fireworks. And then I put the video up on on the local next door, I think it was, so all my neighbors could see it. Everyone loved it. And a couple weeks later, this guy wrote me just desperate. He goes, please, are you the guy flying the drone over my house? You're triggering my Iraq. I think a drone's coming from me. Yeah, uh, over the thing. And I'm like, sorry, but that's not me. I'm not, I'm not flying lately.

My brother, Fourth of July, he cannot— he has to wear headphones, put music on, you know. Um, so yeah, you know, it affects everybody different. For sure, you know.

Yeah, so, you know, it's, it's a challenging issue.

It is.

Um, what you— I— it sounds like you've got some techniques in there that you have that are, are, uh, for other folks, uh, or for the future of what maybe we should do, or some, some best practices maybe that we should start doing.

Yeah, uh, you know, so, you know, my big thing is, you know, change the narrative. You You know what I'm saying? Like, we can't talk about marijuana as being the same as it used to be. You can't just say, oh, it's just weed, because it's not just weed anymore. We're not talking about '60s, '70s, '80s weed, you know? Um, you know, high potency products is a whole separate problem. Um, you know, we, we need to be careful, um, but by acting like it's not a big deal, you know, because again when you do your research, kind of like, I mean, I literally have hundreds of points here I could talk about.

Yeah.

Um, you know, and I see the positives, I see the negatives, um, and I understand the positives because I've talked to a lot of people, you know. I've had, um, people who lost their legs, you know, or, you know, struggle with, you know, major, uh, you know, cancer or anything like that, you know. They've reached out to me and told me that, you know, the marijuana helps them. Uh, like you say, it helps you sleep, things like that. I'm not here to say don't take it. Like I tell everybody, that's only one side of the story. Yeah, you know, I'm focusing on the other side of the story because of the, you know, the things that I see with these kids. Um, and I see how it's leading them to, to bigger addictions, you know, because in America we talk about a bigger problem with drugs and everybody says I want to fix it, but when you look at marijuana as a, a root cause for that addiction Nobody wants to talk about that, you know. So, so you can't really say I want to fix the problem, but then you don't really want to fix the problem, you know what I'm saying. So you got to start being honest, you know what I'm saying. Like, look at the root causes. Now, you know, Australia, um, you know, medical marijuana, they're doing a great job in my opinion because they actually maintain medical marijuana in a pharmacy. You actually have to have prescription for it. Oh, you know, so now you know you're getting actual marijuana at the dosage that is prescribed to you. I'm fully in favor of that because that shows the real deal. People that actually have prescriptions, it's the real deal. Most people in America are self-proclaimed medical users, you know, and it's actually proven. I have data to back that up, and over half of medical users actually meet the criteria for cannabis use disorder. So it's no different than abusing Percocet or any other drug, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, the big thing is you know, we got to change the narrative. We got to start calling it what it is.

Yeah.

Um, and that's a hard pill to swallow, no pun intended, uh, for, for people who use, you know. And that's the other thing too, is be open-minded, you know. Um, I didn't write this book to get rich. 70% of the people are for legalization, um, but most of the people that I get feedback from are people who abuse the drug for for many, many years. Um, I even had a Canadian, you know, because recreational is legal there, he was a dispensary owner and his kid actually was using high-potency products stacked with medication. It led to him committing suicide.

Oh wow! Yeah, you don't want to be stacking stuff.

And yeah, but that's what the majority of people are doing, you know. Yeah, almost every kid is on an antidepressant, you know, and they're, they're using You know, so, you know, you know, focus on the problem.

In California, you know, you're right, there's some fluffiness in there. In California, I remember my, my buddy said to me— they want to give me the 100-milligram cookie— uh, my buddy said to me, he goes, he goes, it's so easy to get the medical card. I'm like, really? He goes, yeah, you just go in and they kind of coach you a little bit, and they go, yeah, just tell us you had like a migraine or something, or backache, you know, something they can't really track down. You know, roaming pain. Yeah.

And they're not looking for it for medical, you know what I'm saying? Call it what it is. I just want to get out.

He doesn't want to get high, man.

Yeah, let's call it what it is, you know.

And that's— that was his case. He'd smoked illegal, you know, street marijuana all of his life. And yeah, and then when it became medically— but I was surprised. I'm like— he's like, yeah, you just go in there and they go, uh, do you have migraines? And you go, yeah. And they go, okay, here's a prescription. Yeah. And I'm like, it's that I mean, it's that easy.

Yeah. Now I think you can actually do it online. My daughter was telling me that, you know.

Oh, seriously?

Just go online and, you know. So the big thing, you know, the message I'm trying to get people to understand is that 70% of people want to legalize marijuana, but we're not thinking about the effect that that is having on the kids.

Yeah.

You know, so before you just rush into that, you know, peel back the onion, because I'm not saying don't get your marijuana if you, if you have to have it, it helps you. Yeah, but do it the right way, you know what I'm saying? Go get a prescription, or, you know, because like you got to think about how we're impacting the future generation, you know. We're already struggling with recruitment numbers in the military right now. We're doing pretty good, um, you know, but I was just at a conference, uh, because I'm an ROTC instructor, and, uh, you know, I was listening to them talk about they're concerned about the future of officers because less than 10% of the whole United States even qualifies to serve in the military, you know, with weight, with being over— out of shape, and well, that, or drugs in your system, you know. Yeah, so it's like, you know, I don't want to have a draft, I don't want to go back to that, but what are we doing to, to make it better for—

we should bring it back. You know, a lot of Gen Z, you know, a lot of Gen Z is kind of tuned out from what we're— from what the studies and the data is showing. You know, a lot of the young men, they don't want to really gonna do anything. They're not interested in marrying, wifing up. And some of that relates to a dating problem, feminism, and different other issues, um, that are separate from that. But I wonder how much that's drug, um, drug influence maybe.

Well, I'll tell you this, my daughter, you know, she wanted to go in the medical field, um, and she would tell you, you know, everything, you know, she, she shared her story in my video and in my book, um, and she would tell you, you know, she wanted to go into the medical field. The reason she didn't go in the medical field is because she was scared she couldn't pass drug tests.

Wow.

You know, and I can tell you a lot of people don't go into career fields because of that reason. Yeah, they may not admit it. Yeah, you know, but it, but it is 100% true.

So yeah, and it's not a good place because you, you have access to more drugs. Yeah, yeah. I just saw this TikTok video. I think it was, uh, one of the videos from, uh, who's that guy who does the documentary from all the people who've destroyed themselves? Jason Tremko, uh, uh, white something. Um, he does these videos of people that are prostitutes on the street and people that have really had—

I think I've seen some of his work.

Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah. And, uh, this guy, I just recently saw the video, uh, he was a hospital doctor of some type and he literally was stealing drugs from his hospital. And it got so bad, his wife kicked him out of the house, he lost his hotel room, he lost his car. He was literally living at the hotel— or I'm sorry, at the hospital. He'd be the first one to show up in the morning and then, and then the first one to— last one to leave. And people are starting to figure out— and he would steal drugs from the morgue. Evidently, evidently when you die in your hospital room, they take all your belongings, they throw in a bag, including whatever medications you were taking, you know, whatever. It's all just your property. And so they compare it with your body when they put you in the morgue. And so he found he could go down the morgue and just, just rifle through and find all these drugs that no one would ever really track if they were there or disappeared. And so he was making— and then at night he would just go hang out with crack dealers at their crack place palace and smoke crack with them, and then he'd be back at work. And it was crazy. So yeah, that's probably never— not a good place to be when you have access to free drugs.

Yeah, I know in the military, you know, if you ever had a history of smoking weed, um, you're not able to, uh, go into the medical field.

Oh yeah, you don't want somebody running a gun or a billion-dollar machine or a, you know, an F-16, whatever, and they're high. That's a— it's not gonna go well. Plus, you—

yeah, and that's what I'm saying, like that, you know, trillion. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, like that narrative is so important, you know, because when we're just like, oh, it's just weed. Yeah, you know, you're, you're stopping people from careers that you're gonna need in the future. You know, that's just one area, one angle of the problem, you know.

Do you think if we legalize it and put in good rules and regulations like we have with cigarettes and alcohol, that might help? Or—

well, let me put it to you this way. So this stat right here will blow your mind, okay? And it's, it's really shocking to me that nobody talks about it. Um, are you on your computer?

Yeah.

Ty, just, just Google how many Vapes are FDA regulated as of today.

FDA approved. You want to go with approved?

Yeah.

Or approved. Yeah.

Okay. Uh, 45 specific vapes.

45. Okay, so here's, here's what I want you to consider. So 45 as of today. Okay. In from 2019 to 2024, the FDA received 20 21.6 million applications from vaping products or vaping companies. 21.6 million.

Okay. Wow.

And as of now, you just said 45, 45 products, that's all that's approved. So right now in the United States of America, almost 90— I think it's 93% of vapes that are sold are illegal, are illicit, and nobody's talking about it.

Why?

And the other thing too is that there's a company out of California, believe it or not, they're, they're called Infinite Chemical Analysis. Okay, they reported that 80% of the products that they tested were illicit and 62% of them were tainted for high pesticide levels and 40% of them failed for high lead levels. Um, some of them were over 300% the legal limit of lead. So how, how is nobody talking about this stuff?

Yeah.

So, so, you know, back to your question, when you, when you look at stats like that, you can see it's, it's not going to work.

Yeah.

Um, what should have happened was we should have saw the warning signs.

Yeah.

You know, and I laugh about it all the time because I'm like, you know, you think back to COVID days, right? 2019 time frame. You know, what was the big reason everybody said I don't want to take the vaccine? It's not FDA-approved, right? It's not FDA-regulated. I'd love to say that, but yet almost all vapes on the market after all that amount of time are still illegal, illicit, and not FDA approved. And yet we go buy them up by the millions. Yeah. And, and kids are the most vulnerable.

Yeah.

So, but we celebrate it. Adults are celebrating it.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

So we need to— yeah, we need to take this into account and deal with it. Uh, you know, I remember with this, with the smoking, uh, fight and battle that went on for, you know, decades with, uh, who's that company that had most of it? Um, there was books written about it. Nabisco, uh, NBC Nabisco. Anyway, um, but, uh, uh, the, you know, it was, it was apparent they had some, you know, smoking ads had the earliest subconscious put stuff put in them, and they finally, you know, advertisers agreed they were gonna stop doing that. But, you know, I remember the cool ads, they would have like the word sex or something in the smoke, or, you know, there was all sorts of sexual innuendos. The camel had like basically a penis on his nose, um, and then the camel, one of the attacks they made on it, um, was it was designed to appeal to children because it's like a cutesy animation guy, right? And so they started shutting that down. And with these vapes, I mean, there's blueberry, there's mango, there's all this stuff that, you know, clearly you're appealing to kids.

Yeah, yeah, right.

Like, I don't give a shit what my edibles taste like. I don't give a shit what my— oh, you do, you do have to tap off some vodka. But you know, when they're offering these things, one of the, one of the reasons I took one drag of a cigarette at junior high when someone had brought and tried smoking cigarettes was— it was the key. The key was it tasted awful. I mean, I was like coughing and sputtering, and I'm like, this is gross, I feel like an ashtray in my mouth. And that was my first experience, and it was my last experience. Yeah, and that was good. But if you would have put blueberry or mango or, you know, some other Juicy Fruit crap in there that made it sweet, I mean, yeah, I could see that.

Combine it with a marijuana cart at 60% strength, right? That's what, that's what kids are doing, you know. So Yeah, you know, it's wild to me.

So people can check out your, uh, check out your book, they can check out the movie and all that good stuff. And all that good stuff, what you're doing. Um, give us a final pitch out for people to order all those stuff up and integrate with, uh, your things, reach out to you if they have questions, etc., etc.

Yeah, so, um, you know, I, I would love for y'all to reach out to me. Um, you know, have a friendly conversation. Um, I don't mind debating people, you know, I like hearing all sides of the story. Um, I would just encourage people to have an open mind, you know, hear both sides of the story, you know. Um, it's not always just the positives you need to talk about. You need to talk about the negatives too. And I try to bring it from a, uh, non— I guess legalistic way, so to speak, you know what I'm saying? We can laugh, we could joke around and stuff, um, you know, but also try to talk about the, the, the true facts, you know. Everything in my book Um, I got a copy of it right here. Everything in my book, I have over 130 references that are all reviewed on here. And actually, right now, Chicago University has my book, um, University of Kentucky has my book, um, and like I said, it's a finalist for the International Impact Book Awards. So, you know, it's been peer-reviewed, it's won awards, everything I'm talking about is research-based. I'm not a doctor, I'm just a normal person who's concerned, um, and if I can find this information, just like kind of what you just did right there, Googling it, it's right in front of our faces, you know. So just, just have an open mind, be real. Uh, you can find me at YouTube, uh, Jason Tremko Books and Films. I got a bunch of stuff on there. Um, I got Facebook, uh, same, same title, just look up, uh, JT Books on there. Um, would love to chat with you. Maybe you're a parent who, you know, wants to learn more information because in an hour we, you know, we barely touched on everything here. But if you're a parent who's concerned, you know, because like I said, 60% of parents don't know their kids are using, you know. So if you want to know more information, my book is a good reference for you. My film is a good reference for you. It's $2.99 on Google Play. Um, on YouTube Movies, I think it's the same price. It's like $2.99. So go watch it, it's 56 minutes long. Um, it'll give you a lot of stuff to think about.

Yeah, go watch it, folks, and learn some things. And, and, you know, like they used to say to my, uh, Gen X latchkey kid parents, uh, it's 10 o'clock, do you know where your kid is? You know, you need to, you need to be involved with your kids and talking to them and know what's going on. You know, I see too many people that are just totally tapped out, the parents that just live on their phones. Like yesterday I was at, uh, I was at an eater burger joint and somebody had like 3 or 4 kids and the parents were just locked into their phones. And the one kid's trying to tear down the umbrella that's on the outside patio of the burger joint and he's standing up on the— and he's this little kid, he's standing up on the table. So if he takes a tumble onto the cement, you know, I mean, I don't want to see a kid get hurt, right? But he's also trying to destroy the, the property of whatever, and these people are oblivious. I mean, the kids are running out screaming at the top of their lungs, you know. And, uh, and I see that a lot in a lot of places now where the tuned-out parents, they're just locked in their phones and their kids are just raising hell. You gotta check in with your kids. You've got to keep open dialogue. You've got to pre-talk to them. You know, my parents put the fear of God and death and drugs into us at a young age. They were talking to us way early before we could ever come into contact with with it. And I think that was really important, and it kept us away from drugs. We were kind of like, oh, that sounds like a bad thing.

Yeah, lead by example, right? Yeah, legal to drive in all 50 states. Yeah, put the blunt down while you're driving, you know? Yeah, what are you teaching your kid?

That's true. I mean, if you got a big booze cabinet and dad's getting hopped up every night in front of the kids, but he's going, hey, don't do as I do, and yeah, they're not going to take you serious.

They're gonna end up just like you. They're gonna—

yeah, they're eventually gonna break into that cabinet. We when we were kids with our friends. I remember we broke into the beer— the beer hidden area of our parents. So anyway, there you go. And the Playboys, we found the Playboys too. Yeah, that was big back in the day.

Yeah, we ain't never gonna be perfect, you know what I'm saying? But try to be the best that you can be, you know what I'm saying?

Just remember, kids, you don't want your kids turning out like me.

So yeah, just care. That's what it boils down to. You know, just—

there you go. And CD Drilling, he's been learning a lot of stuff. Uh, wow, that's shocking. Do as I say, not as I do. I was gonna say that line. Thank you, CD. So there you go. Uh, thank you very much for coming to the show. We really appreciate Jason, and very insightful. And yeah, uh, more things need to be done with our children. Yes, sir, to prevent these things. And I've seen the vape things where it burns our lungs, and it's permanent. You're fucked for life.

You're Yeah, lung stuff, popcorn lung and all that stuff.

Popcorn lung, that's it. Yeah, that's crazy, man. So that's why I always— never mind, I'm not gonna do a joke. Um, so that's why I always mainline my alcohol. No, don't do that, folks, I'm just joking. Anyway, guys, uh, order up his book where fine books are sold, The Green Glitch: What's Behind the Devil's Lettuce. There you go. Uh, go to goodreads.com/chrisfoss, linkedin.com/chrisfoss. YouTube.com/FortressChrisFoss and all those crazy places. Be good to each other, stay safe. We'll see you guys next time.

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All right, there we go, Jason. Awesome.