Ep.136- Healing With Scalar Energy with Tom Paladino

In this episode of the You Winning Life Podcast, host Jason Wasser, LMFT, interviews Tom Paladino, a self‑described scalar energy researcher. Paladino explains that scalar energy – the “fundamental life force” from the sun and stars – is a non‑physical, quantum field distinct from electromagnetic energy. He claims scalar energy can be accessed remotely through a person’s photograph, allowing a scalar energy instrument to deliver healing without physical presence. The conversation contrasts scalar technology with electromagnetic devices such as Royal Rife’s machines, frames the discussion in terms of vitalism versus mechanistic views, and links scalar energy to “instructions” that govern biology, emotions, and consciousness. Paladino describes the instrument’s purported ability to balance brain waves, influence chakras, and even act as a “divine” or “God‑driven” healing force. He references Nikola Tesla’s alleged work on free‑energy scalar devices and suggests that powerful interests have suppressed the technology. Practical details are offered: users can upload a bust‑shot photo to scalarlight.com for a free 15‑day session that includes chakra balancing, microbe identification, and nutrient programs. Paladino emphasizes that he does not manufacture instruments and envisions a grassroots, non‑corporate movement. Throughout, Wasser relates the concepts to his therapeutic background, neuro‑emotional techniques, and broader integrative medicine, while expressing cautious curiosity about the claims.
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This is the You Winning Life Podcast, your number one source for mastering a positive existence. Each episode we'll be interviewing exceptional people, giving you empowering insights, and guiding you to extraordinary outcomes. Learn from specialists in the worlds of integrative and natural wellness, spirituality, psychology, and entrepreneurship so you too can be winning life. Now here's your host, licensed LMFT 🎗️, marriage and family therapist, certified neuro-emotional technique practitioner, and certified entrepreneur coach, Jason Wasser.
All right, welcome back. So today we're going to do a deep dive of some really awesome healing technologies that have been out for forever, but newly and more recently being tapped into by awesome people, just like our guest today. So Tom, welcome.
Thank you so much, Jason. Thanks.
So let's talk about healing technology. Let's talk about energy. You are an energy researcher based specifically on a very fundamental life force. So what is that? Where do we find it? How do we tap into it? What the heck is this? Because this is going to sound so hippie-dippy, tree-hugging, Harry Potter-ish. But it's legit.
It is legit, and you're right, you hit the nail on the head. It's fundamental. We're working with light. Energy is fundamental. And what am I getting at? Well, it obeys the laws of science. So what I'm saying is, and I'm going to observe immutable scientific principle, okay? It cannot be changed, okay? So yes, I'm a scalar energy researcher. I work with scalar energy instruments that control that fundamental life force energy. I have instruments that can harness that energy, control it, transmit that energy. And this new dimension that we're working in does not require a physical presence. It only requires your energetic presence. I work with photographs of people. I never work with people. I work with the energy field on a person's photograph, or the energy field on an animal's photograph. People send me photographs of their pets— dogs, cats, horses. So this is a new science of scalar energy. It's not electricity. I work with scalar energy instruments that control that life force energy. These are fundamental laws that I follow because energy does indeed present that, that set of rules, that set of laws, if you will. And I only work with people by their energy field. Which is found on a photograph. This is quantum healing. This is quantum science.
Yeah. So let's go through a few words. So let's break those down. So scalar energy, and then quantum science, quantum healing, those are— so I know people out there, they hear it, right? They see their Natural Awakenings magazine, especially if you're in Florida, right? And, you know, it's big down here. And, you know, there's a lot of stuff. Joe Dispenza, Dr. Joe Dispenza talks a lot about quantum healing. From that and the whole, you know, you are the placebo. There are energy workers, Reiki, and, you know, laying hands and all those type of things, EMDR, and the more psychological field that's working with energetic shifts in the physiology. Let's break down what you're talking— what is scalar energy? And what is quantum healing?
Yeah, scalar energy is simply the energy of the sun and the stars. Again, this is fundamental energy. Where does that fundamental energy come from? The sun, the stars. And when we say quantum healing, we're referring to healing with that energy of the sun and the stars. Meaning what? If scalar energy is non-physical— I believe it's non-physical— then we're working with the non-physical information system of the person. We're not working with your biology, we're not working with cells, we're not working with tissue. We're working with everybody's information field. Or everybody's quantum makeup. So you have a biological makeup, that's true, flesh and blood, and then you have a quantum makeup, which is your energy. And that's what we're working with, your energy matrix or your energy signature. And we do that only by way of scalar energy. The best way, and I think the only way we can access your quantum field, which is a scalar field, is what they quantum instrument or a scalar energy instrument. So just let's slow down. A scalar energy instrument interfaces with your scalar energy body, your non-physical constitution. An electromagnetic instrument will interact with your electromagnetic force field. We are speaking of two different realities, two different dimensions. For the sake of this conversation, I do not work with electricity and magnetism, hence I do not work with Newtonian physics. I work with quantum physics, or what some people call Tesla physics, or this, this new and emerging science, which another synonymous term, zero-point energy, quantum energy, or scalar energy.
All right, so what would be the difference? So I know there's people out there who've tapped into Rife machines and energy frequencies. What's the similarities? What's the differences?
Very good. There are many similarities. Let's take Rife. Rife, Royal Rife, was a genius, and the instruments that he produced, I believe, were electromagnetic instruments. And I— to that point, he had to work locally with people, okay? He had to work with flesh and blood, so to speak. I have a scalar energy instrument. It's not electromagnetic, in which I can work in the quantum field at any point in the universe. Meaning what? An electromagnetic instrument, you have to be in person. A scalar energy instrument is non-local because the universe is holographic. I could work with somebody's photograph on a distant galaxy. Everything in a quantum field is interrelated or interconnected, what some people call quantum entanglement. So I want to make this clear, to underscore the matter. There's two realities now. There's two dimensions, hence there's two outcomes. There's two definitions of science. Both are valid. Electromagnetic energy has certain principles that it follows. Scalar energy has certain principles that scalar energy action will follow. Both are distinct, both are real, both are quite different.
Yeah. So how do people— I mean, so I've studied this, so you're, you're coming to someone who has danced in, in that world, um, and sees the value and the beauty of both of these principles. How do we talk to someone? How would you share this to someone who's like, all right, man, like, that sounds cool. You're using all these great scientific words. Like, talk to me. And it happens, right? And more and more so. These things work, right? We've been to— energy healing has been part of every single world tradition since the creation of time. And healing, faith healing, spiritual healing, positive motivation, intentionality, law of attraction, right? Once they— you know, people are more likely— and I'm a huge fan of law of attraction. I've seen Esther Hicks multiple times in person. And, um, right, people are more likely to buy into that because it's really like, well, it's about your mindset. But they don't realize that it's really about playing with energy. It's about playing with the quantum mechanics and, and at that level, but people don't know that. So how would you break that down for someone who's like, dude, Tom, like, sounds great. I'm glad you're making money. But, you know, this, this sounds a little bit— I don't know if I buy this. So how would we— how will we get there?
Yeah. Okay, let's use this example. The human mind and the human heart. I've always said this, the mind and the heart are scalar energy vessels. Brainwaves are really scalar energy information. Okay, um, our heart— or why does the heart beat? Our circadian rhythm is a scalar energy instruction. So I've mentioned this so many times, and I, I hold to this steadfast: everybody is a scalar energy expert. Everybody has a mind, everybody has emotions, a heart, and we are embodied with this scalar energy. We just haven't quite figured that out. How is it possible that we think How is it possible that we're creative? Where are these thoughts coming from? What is the driving animating force of, of imagination, of creativity? It's scalar energy. Scalar energy are the instructions of the universe. They also instruct our heartbeat. They also instruct our 7 chakras. And when we realize that this energy is instructive and everything in the universe receives scalar energy instructions Well, then people will start realizing that this— yes, this is quite profound. And scalar energy is the animating force of all action in the universe.
So this very much aligns with the vitalism philosophy versus the mechanistic philosophy.
Yes.
And if any of my, my, my chiro or integrative medicine people out there are listening to this, obviously this is, you know, where I've learned a lot about this, um, especially since I do neuro-emotional technique, which is a mind-body, uh, we use kinesiology, right, and muscle testing. So the idea of vitalism is that the body has vital resources, such as what you're talking about, energy, and, and it knows how to heal itself when the thorn is removed. And we need to remove the thorns. What are the thorns? It's toxins, it's emotions, it's trauma, poor nutrition, those things. And the mechanistic is the mind and the body are two really separate, you know, entities.
And that's a shame. And you're right. See, vitalism serves as the instructions. Before you do anything, you have to have instructions, intelligence, and then you build, and then you have creation. So scalar energy are the instructions, and the end result is a home, is a bone, your teeth, your genetic structure, the stars. Before you have physical creation, you have to have intelligence, instructions. The analogy that I always afford is if you're an architect and you want to build You want to, uh, in some way have a plan, an architectural plan. Those are instructions, whether it's for a home, a church, a skyscraper. And then the final project is to build, to build that physical edifice. Well, the same with the universe. Everything begins with instructions, intelligence, and then the intelligence will dictate the final physical form. That's rather apparent to me. So scalar energy serves as the engine, the locomotive, and what follows is essentially the caboose, the final end product.
Yeah. So walk me through the process of tapping into this. So, you know, one of the, um, as I, as I showed you before, I have actually a scalar wave that was created by, uh, Dr. Brimhall. And Dr. Brimhall can And the chiropractic community is very much into, into these things. And I stole this from my, from my chiro's office because it was just sitting on the shelf. And I've been playing with it. And you know, it's, it's localized treatment for— and you can plug in different frequencies for different things. But there are, you know, there are other ways and other aspects that you're probably tapping into that other tools may not be. So what makes what you've created, how you've created it different?
Right. The key element is this: I don't work with electricity or magnetism. I work with the other dimension, scalar energy, in which it's, it's a masterful intelligence and it, it commands nature much more so than electricity or magnetism. In other words, if you can have oblique control over nature with electricity, you can have consummate control over nature with scalar energy. I mean that quite literally. So a scalar energy instrument allows me to control atomic and molecular form. The scalar energy instrument allows me to balance the brain waves, and I can do that because this is a fundament, and this, this energy is the actual cause of brain waves, is the actual cause of molecular structure.
Nice. So I'm going to do this, right? And I'm saying, here's my symptomology, here's what I'm going through. Do you need to know what someone's going through first, or does it— is it a reverse engineer, where you can figure out in a diagnostic type of way or an assessment type of way of like, here's what's off or imbalanced. How does that work?
Very good. I never diagnose. Why? Because the energy is all known. And when I'm working with this divine energy, I'll let God— this is God's animating force— decide what needs to be corrected. See, this is the beauty of my, my work. It. It does not involve human reasoning. The human reasoning went into building the instrument. Human reasoning now goes into presenting my work. The actual function of the instrument, human reasoning does not have any part. You know, if you have a computer, you have to program it, you have to monitor it. Imagine you have a scalar energy computer that's all-knowing. It doesn't need programming. A scalar energy computer does it on its own. It doesn't need a human being.
So I'm kind of seeing it going back with the computer metaphor of a defragmentation process. It's defragging what got all sorted in a non-efficient way.
Exactly. So if we were receiving perfect scalar energy instructions, we would be perfect human beings.
So what gets in the way of the electromagnetic energy? And we're picking that up everywhere, right? So EMFs and—
Yes. The perfect energy, the perfect intelligence, the perfect construction is scalar energy. If we live in a perfect scalar energy force field, it would be heaven on earth. There would be no sickness. You cannot die if you live in a perfect scalar energy force field.
Correct.
I, I'm a Christian. I believe there is a heaven, and if we go to heaven, it's a perfect scalar energy environment. There's no electricity in heaven.
Okay, so I'm processing this, I'm making sense of this. So the things that we're bumping up against, which I look at through the world of, right, a therapist who practices integrative wellness, is those areas, right? It's emotions, toxins, nutritional deficiencies, and physical trauma, right? Those are the four bases. So all of those have some type of interruption in patterns in the nervous system, in the physiology, in the biochemistry. So what you're proposing is underneath all that, or what's supporting all of that— yes, is—
yes, you're right, Jason Wasser. That's the effect. What you just enunciated was the effect, the end result. If we could go higher, what instructs all of that? What instructs the mind, the psyche? What instructs the emotions? What instructs our physiological being? It's instructions, energy, scalar energy. Everything begins with the scalar energy instruction. When— if you find somebody in perfect health, their scalar energy instructions have not been interrupted.
So how does the process work, right? So you're talking about using someone's image, someone's picture, someone's— and then, and then how— time frame? How, how does someone know that this is right? So let's say for me, like, let's say Epstein-Barr or vasovagal, cardiosyncopy, and who knows whatever else is going on, bad cholesterol. How would I, how would I tap into that? I'm going to use myself as a perfect example.
Sure. Sure. If you visit our website, you can upload your photographs. Again, we only work with photographs, and I actually print out a photograph. This is my photograph. I actually print out a photograph and place it inside the Scalar Energy Instrument. Now, what does that mean? Your photograph now is incorporated in a force field, a scalar energy force field. So I have left behind the electromagnetic spectrum. Your photograph is immersed in a scalar energy force field, allowing me to access you beyond the space-time continuum. The point is, your photograph now has perfect instructions. We've left behind the electromagnetic world, which are imperfect instructions. And when your photograph is in a perfect environment of perfect instructions, we see improvement in people's health. And that, that is by way of people's testimonies. Now, I cannot prove this because this is a new science. There is no protocol for what I'm doing. Everything I'm doing is groundbreaking. It's never been repeated. I'm the only one in the world that I know that's doing this. So I can prove my work in my laboratory, but eventually, uh, scientists and laypeople are going to have to prove this out in the field. By way of their exposure to these, these sessions.
So what is it about the photograph? Because I've known of other processes that have done this before. And I know that there's, right, when you're doing thermography for, you know, they're writing the mammograms. I know there's people who go and they do that versus the, you know, the other way, the other diagnostics. What is it about the photograph that when it's no longer me, right, you and I are talking to each other digitally. So you're seeing a digital in interpretation of me on the screen that at least, you know, I think it looks like me. And, um, and you think it looks like me too, right? So we're one step removed there, but we're interacting with that, we're engaging with it. You're now taking a snapshot of that and then not only taking a reprint of a reprint, but then you're printing up a reprint of a reprint. So, so on a side, you know, from your perspective— and this is— I'm intrigued by this— how does that actually tap into to me as an essence when it's only— when it's a reprint of a reprint of a reprint.
Yeah, that's a good point. It doesn't matter how many times your— the photo has been reprinted, it still contains your signature. So this is the key with the scalar energy environment: your signature is unique. And no matter if your signature is found in a magazine or you emailed me your signature, your photograph, as long as it's a photograph, it can— it contains your essence. And this is the all-knowing character of scalar energy. It will look at any photograph in the world and ascertain its essence or its signature. This is the infinite intelligence of scalar energy. On any given day, today in my laboratory for instance, I had at least half a million photographs in my instrument. Did I dictate where that energy would, would go, how that energy would, would interact?
No.
It's a divine energy which I can work with half a million photographs simultaneously, and the God energy will send out the instructions to each person's domain, to each person's signature, as God sees fit. I can't underscore enough how this is out of my control. This is a divine energy, and all I have to do is operate the instrument and the energy The energy carries out the function.
So the way I'm seeing this in my mind is that anybody who's ever done any type of energy healing or Reiki, that this is just doing that on a massive— yes, scale. Yes.
When, when somebody who has healing hands can lay healing hands upon you and, and you're healed or you feel better, that's a one-to-one administration. Scalar energy is healing hands, right? In my laboratory today I had at least half a million photographs that I treated with scalar energy, and in some way God has healed those people through the photograph. Am I the healer? No, right?
It's a facilitation of— and that's really what any type of— I mean, anybody who is— anybody who gets healing, and right, it's me as a therapist. I mean, I think I'm a pretty good therapist because I have a waiting list in my practice, but it's not me, right? I'm providing— I'm just asking the right questions for them to tap into their own innate wisdom that they always knew all along if they didn't get stuck in their own way, right? Sometimes I'm kicking them in the butt a little bit, but I'll take blame for that and responsibility for that. But at the end of the day, I know— I do believe from a vitalistic perspective that, you know, we pick up gunk along the way, whether it's family of origin stuff, whether it's cultural stuff, gender stuff, politics, whatever BS that we're picking up along the way. And that blocks us from serving our higher purpose, especially when we no longer decide to choose what our higher purpose, higher mission and processes.
Yeah, very good. Yeah, and you're right. See, in the electromagnetic spectrum, you're still on a one-to-one basis. You're still bound by time and space. In my scalar energy environment, my laboratory, I can work with half a million people by way of their photograph. Time and space are no impediment.
So how does someone— can someone get this type of equipment for themselves? Is there— is that patent pending, so to speak? Or is this like— right, how do we tap into it? Obviously, you're, you're a practitioner of this and you're a creator and facilitator of this. How does someone jump on the bandwagon? How does someone— besides the healing process of facilitating through you, how does someone's like, hey, this is my jam, I'm down with this— how does that work?
You know, I'm not in the position to manufacture instruments, and frankly, I, I won't in the future. There's too much to learn, and the, the energy can be misapplied or misused. Okay, so I don't want to take that onus on— I don't want that responsibility. Eventually you're going to have a scientific group that accepts this science, then promulgates it, has this science accepted by academia, or at least by the lay people, the general public, and then you could start an industry around this. I'm not in a position to do I don't have the time and money. I'm one person. Yeah, I just don't have the time. I don't come from money, to be blunt. So where is this going? Well, I— my projection is this is a grassroots movement with me. Now, what other people want to do, what other groups want to do, I encourage them to get into the science. But I did— to be quite candid, I don't want corrupt governments and corrupt corporations involved. So I'm going to keep this grassroots.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. The only thing I'm thinking from the scientific perspective, um, Dr. Andrew Newberg, who was formerly at Penn, now at Jefferson in Philly, um, does a ton of research on the— his whole thing is actually neurotheology, what happens to the brain and body during religious and spiritual healing experiences. And actually scientifically, as a neurologist, as one of the top, um, that's, that's his area of study. He's been on one of my previous episodes. And he was also doing the brain imaging for the NeuroEmotional Techniques, uh, clinical research when we were dealing with PTSD, specifically using NET for people who've had PTSD from cancer diagnosis, pre and post, uh, brain, brain fMRIs. So I know that there's awesome research on this because the modality that I practice was not yet clinically researched and journal published, and published in the Journal of Cancer Survivorship, which is one top journals until, like you said, it's not there yet, but it doesn't mean it doesn't work.
Yes, you're right. Now, this is Tesla energy. If you look at the career of Nikola Tesla, later in his life, Tesla was creating, if you will, perfected scalar energy instruments, and he wanted to, if you will, manufacture this energy and provide free energy to mankind. So this is This goes back at least 100 years ago where Tesla had Tesla Instruments. He was about to introduce free energy to the world, but the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers did not want that. So does this have a history? Yes, this is suppressed technology.
Interesting stuff, right? So we can get into the politics of that, the geopolitical stuff. So yeah, so good. And, and now people again— so I know you're saying like people interested and people want to tap into this, how would they, how would they, how would they go about doing that?
In order to introduce a new concept, I think it's best that I give away free sessions. My website has 15 days of free sessions. Send in your photograph and email us just a face shot. All we need is your bust shot, and we'll provide 15 days of a chakra balancing, a microbe identification and cleanse, and a nutrient program. Scalarlight.com. That's the only way I can get this out there, by a website open to the general public, free sessions to everybody.
Awesome. So you guys got that scalarlight.com. If this is down your, you know, in your wheelhouse, down your rabbit hole, something you just want to be like, well, for, for craps and giggles, let me try this out for a few days and see if this is, uh, and for those of you who who are interested in this, right, this is just another amazing way that's— that are the innateness, the, the, you know, as a therapist, I didn't grow— I didn't grow up with this stuff. I didn't grow up with— and even in the world of therapy and mind-body healing, like, it's become much more evolved in things that weren't even able to be, um, like hypnosis was the big thing for, for when I was, you know, when I was in graduate school, and to get trained in hypnosis was a big deal. And now how we've seen we've moved further along last 10, 15 years into other modalities that are creeping its way into the traditional, so to speak, therapy world. So I'm really excited to have had this conversation with you today.
Thank you. You're right, it's, it's a new and emerging science. It has such promise. You know, Nikola Tesla was right, people. You've heard of that great mind. Tesla developed free energy devices, and that's why this has been suppressed over the past 100 years.
Yeah, yeah. Well, just though, along the geopolitical paradigm of what would happen with certain nations where their whole issue is, right, they're funding oil and all the things that— right, right. I mean, it's just interesting to see the overlapping of, of politics and healing and energy. And, and we can go both ways. I happen to be, you know, uh, you know, into very integrative and functional medicine and vaccinated. I have the best of both worlds. And I know people have one— they're all one way or all the other way, and I like the both. And, you know, So, I mean, to all this cool stuff.
You have to be logical.
Right, right.
Be logical.
Right, right. So, you know, I like the both/and theory. Like, this could sound ridiculously absurd, but try it anyway. Especially, right, 15 days free. What's going to happen? What's the worst that can happen in 15 days? You feel better. Yeah. And, you know, so I like, I like that approach and challenging people to just try something a little bit different. And hence why I love having guests such as you.
Thank you. Splendid conversation. You're real— you're an expert, as, as is your audience. This is not difficult when you realize that there's two outcomes, there's two energies.
Yeah, well, and I think that, right, it's— we, we usually look at things only through that lens because that's the lens, right, that traditional society, what we're taught, and we're aggregated through that. Um, and then once you start getting into more of that, like, again, I'll call it the hippie dippy down the rabbit hole, you know, uh, stuff. Then you start like, well, wait, I never learned— I was taught quantum science or quantum mechanics in college. I could have taken that course, but they didn't tell me that it was spiritual. They didn't tell me that healing is connected to— they didn't tell me that all this quantum, right? Oh no, that's only for those, you know, tree huggers. That's not actual legitimately, uh, right, real.
But it is, it is.
So good stuff. All right, Tom. Well, guys, check it out. If you want to follow right on his website as well, there's a bunch of links to the social medias, all those different platforms. There's some YouTube videos and all of that. But again, scalarlight.com. And Tom, thank you again.
Thank you, sir.
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