Let's JessTalk Radio Laser Coaching Moments Will Edwards & LisaListen January 30, 2015

The following hour is a real hour of power. This is let's just talk radio. Let's just talk radio with Jesse from jesstalk.com and Lisa from lisalistens.com if you're lost, stuck or challenged in life matters, this hour's for you. The phone lines are open at 702-731-1230. That's 702-7311 or toll free 1-866-820-5528. That's 1-866-820- KLAV. Now let's bring on the host. Here's Jesse and Lisa.

Okay, listeners out there, we have a great show for you today. It's going to be a fun day. We have some new aspects to the show. We're calling it laser coaching. We'll tell you a bit more about it in a moment. We have a extra special co host along with Lisa Liston today and Lisa's going to say a few words to you and then we're going to jump right into this program. Get after it.

Today is going to be a show. You want to be on the edge of your seat and you will want to call in. And that number to call in is 702-731-1230. If you're calling out of Nevada, that number is 866-820-5528. Again, 866-820-5528. Or you can listen online at KLEV 12:30am or download the app KLAV. Again, we have a great host and this show is going to keep you on the edge of your seat. And do feel free to call in. We are doing the laser coaching and magical things are about to happen. Stand by.

Yeah. And we'll talk about what that laser coaching is before in a moment. We're going to bring on our co host with us. Lisa, I'm looking forward to our next event that we call conversations that we have set up for Sunday, March 8th. That's gonna be a lot of fun, that special invitation only. Those have been going pretty well, wouldn't you say?

You know what, the last one that.

We had, last ones that we've had.

Well, I'm speaking of actually the last one that we had connected two people that had the same stuff going on and they are now new best friends. And I love it when that happens.

I do, too. And that's not the first time that that's happened where we might have 10 or 12 people in a room and one person on one side of the room is telling a story. And the person, the person on the other side of the room is tearing up and crying because they cann that that story that they're hearing is exactly their story. And they were stuck before they heard that. And after hearing that expression in the environment that's created in the event called conversations, they're never the same. They stood the healing process and the what next comes in the telling of someone else's story with such vulnerability, your.

Thoughts and they feel like they're the only one going through the situation. And you know what? Just know all of you out there, you are not alone. We are all going through the same matters in life.

Not only that, I like to say that we all are living the same lives. And when we bring on our co hosts, we are going to talk a bit about that too. On a level of a continuum, at some point on that continuum, we are all looking and striving for the same things out of our lives to bring us joy and happiness to be sustained in survival and all of these different things.

So very true.

Yeah, yeah. But while you're out there listening, I know that you're probably getting ready to queue up for something really cool. Make sure you like us on Facebook and do the whole tweet thing and all that thing happening out there, don't you think, Lis?

And if you want to call us after the show because something has inspired you and moved you, please feel free to contact us at 702-541-6992. Again, 702-541-6992.

Okay. Okay. Now let's, now let's get to it because here it is. We want to welcome Will Edwards, our co host. He's been on before. Yes. Round of applause.

Wow, that's great.

He did a fabulous job last time. Will Edwards, welcome to the show.

Thank you, sir.

Laser coaching moments. This is something we've CR craft it with you in mind.

Yeah. Well, thank you. I, I thank you everybody. There's not that many people here, but thank you everybody.

But, but I want to say something else about you too. You and your late night show.

Yeah.

And I'm going to say it like this. I'm going to say the Will Edwards Show, Las Vegas's only nighttime variety show.

That is correct.

Right? Is that how it is?

Yep.

So, and listeners, how can listeners find you? How can they get, how can they see the show?

Well, they can see if they go on, the show airs late night Thursdays at 1am which is technically Friday.

Okay.

So they can go to my LV TV if they're here in, if they're here in Las Vegas, my LVTV, Cox Channel 12, DirecTV, Channel 21. And then what we do is the Tuesday after it airs, we put it on our website, thewill edwardshow.com.

Oh, that is so cool. You know what, it's so late night Thursday, which is really early Friday morning. I thought we got up early. So you get up earlier than we do. Is that what you're telling us? So our shows are on Friday at 10. Your shows are at Friday at 1am Exactly. Wow.

Exactly.

I think you one of the hardest working men in show business.

I don't, I don't know about that.

You do. And listen, I got a track, I got a track to pro to prove it. Check this out. Listen to this. Oh, hardest working man in show business. Right?

You always, you always got surprises. Yeah, Jesse, you always come with surprises.

Who's that?

Sound like you're the, you're the only one who, who catches me off guard.

Is that James Brown?

James Brown, man.

So this is the Will Edward James Brown show.

Is that what.

I love it. Very cool. No, I had, I had that set aside because I really do believe that for you. So let's get started.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, let me. Well, before we get started, let me, let me ask a question because I think I know the answer, but, you know, somebody out there might not know the answer.

Okay.

So let's just get into it and let's ask it. So what is the difference between traditional life coaching and laser coaching?

Very good question. Traditional life coaching is where we connect with folks, typically on a program, and we start with what we call a wants analysis. And our whole goal is to help them to determine either if they know what they want to help them get that, or if they don't know what they want to help them figure out what it is that they want. And it's a process and we like to say we meet people where they're at. So we never know where we're going to start with the client because they're all coming in at different places, different stages and that sort of thing.

Right.

So the difference is traditional coaching is a bit of a longer way around. And laser coaching is we get right at it. We get right to it. We strip through the layers. We make the caller or the person that's in the laser coaching moment know that we're not being rude when we step in or we maybe cut them off.

Sure.

We gain. We ask for their permission to be able to be open for that early because Once we know we've got enough to move, then we move forward.

Got it.

And we move them to a conclusion on solution based thinking where their lives can be positively impacted from that.

So no physical lasers, is that what.

No physical lasers. Exactly. So that's really, that's really what it is. You know, we think we're looking to help people create breakthroughs in their lives.

Nice.

Oftentimes people are stuck in fear. They're stuck in situations where they've had some series of bad luck and they start to make that, make that their lives and it's not their lives. Or they're just frustrated or they've never been taught or they, they're not exposed or there are many circumstances or it could be a couple of those things.

Happening all at once, all the same time. Yeah.

So we bring an awareness to the process. And the laser coaching is something that happens quickly where they get at it quicker.

Well, you know what's great is that I, this, I decided something. You mentioned fear, so that popped into my head, but I decided for myself that I have to face some fears.

Okay.

In my, in my life.

Do you need a laser coaching moment on that? Are you gonna just tell us like it is?

No, I'm gonna tell. I'm gonna. I might need a laser. Any lasers, anyone? But no, I, I had. And, and I was appreciative of you and you and Lisa coming out, but I had a fear of doing stand up comedy.

Oh, wow.

Huge. Huge. I mean, it was huge fear. I'd been writing stuff for years and never ever stood on the stage.

Well, you did a remarkable job. I actually came to that show and that was a. That was in downtown Las Vegas. It was a very, very good show. And no one would have ever known that you were in fear before the show or during the show or certainly after. So you tell us, what did you do, Will Edwards, to break through that fear and get on that stage and be a powerhouse?

Let me tell you, I looked back on when I first came up with that show idea, which is called We Funny.

Okay.

We Funny comedy show. And it was March of 2012.

Oh, wow. Wow.

Nothing has happened since between that time and the time I did the show.

Right. Okay.

So the fear was real.

Okay.

And. And it was strong, actually.

So what was the breakthrough moment?

The breakthrough moment is I met someone. I met another local comedian and he looked like he was a seasoned dude and he was doing his thing. Young guy in the seat. And I just decided, I just made a decision watching this guy. I need to Step out and do this thing.

Right.

And that was the moment for me.

You know what I mean?

If he can do it, I can do it.

I love that. A lot of times, I will draw my strength from the same place. What about you, Lisa?

Every time, okay.

When I see someone doing something, whether they're doing it well or not, and especially if they're not in there in the limelight or on the stage or something, I'm going, you know what? I can do this. If he can do it, I can do it. I don't know how yet, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna tell myself that I can do and then figure it out.

Right.

Which is what most people do.

Yeah.

That are successful.

And I thought I could do it. I thought I could do it.

You did. You did so good.

Well, thank you. It was phenomenal. But I thought. And I think a lot of people live with this fear of feeling like, well, maybe, no, I can't. And then. Then on Tuesday, they can, but then they don't. And then on Wednesday, they. They can't again.

You know, they don't live with that fear that you're saying. They live with the fear of if I fail, they. They live with the fear of what if it doesn't work? What if. They live with the fear of being judged.

Yeah.

Because they're more worried about themselves.

Exactly.

Than delivering the message. Just get the message to the people because that's what they want to hear. They really don't care about you.

And they're living their lives from that space where the fear sets versus that space where all their accolades said what they're living from what they don't have, not from what they do have.

Right. That's interesting, Lisa, what you just said.

You like that, Will?

No, that was very good. I just learned something. Okay. I just had. I just had a laser moment.

No, no, that was a good laser.

It was painless.

Well, and with that being said, we have a laser caller on the line. I think there's a call on the line right now. Is Ron Jones out there on the line?

I am.

Ron, let's open it up for a little laser coaching moment. Talk to us. What's on your mind?

I'm a father of four children.

Okay.

Three daughters and a son. And I'm having problems with my middle daughter. She's real defiant, wants to just put us completely through the ringer. And her mother. She lives with her mother. And I'm trying to figure out what my best approach is on a defiant child.

Well, first Off. Congratulation on the four children.

Thank you.

Thank you. There it is. And talk to us about that middle child. Sounds like the middle child. What age is she?

17.

Just turned 17.

Okay, and so, so you're talking about someone that's openly defiant where she, where she wasn't that way beforehand, is that correct?

No, she wasn't, she was a little stubborn headed but not defined. I mean she literally goes against me and her mother's every words even with what I call corporal punishment, all that kind of stuff.

But has it, has it moved into an area called disrespect?

Almost, but not quite.

Okay, so she's on the board, she's standing on that line.

She's, she's actually got one foot over the line right now.

Okay, so she's straddling.

Yes.

Okay. Lisa, do you have any thoughts before we take off on this with Ron? We want to help him. How does he deal with a child, a 17 year old child? Does she think she knows everything to Ron?

Yes, she does.

Okay. I know it all situation where she knows more than her parents at 17.

Exactly.

Well, it doesn't get a lot better until they get somewhere in their 20s because it's just where they're at in life. But there are ways and tools to handle that.

And you were starting to scare me because this is a laser coaching moment. We're going to coach him forward, not make him sit around and wait for four years or three years. I'm just, you know, that's just me in the studio here. I'm looking at Lisa waiting for some motherly advice because she's one of three children and she said, well Ronnie, it's gonna be. Well, she's 17. Well, 27 is the age. No, that is not what Ron Jones wants to hear.

Well, I was going to tell a little bit of the reality and I'll let you get down to the laser.

I'm feeling a little better about it now.

Sorry, Ron. Here it comes. You ready?

Yeah, let's have it. I'm ready. So have it. Let's have it. What were you going to tell us about it?

No, I said I'm going to let you deliver the laser right now. Go for it, Jeff.

Well, no, I want your wisdom for ron with a 17 year old that's defiant. You know this. So tell us. So then we could take off from there.

Well, defiancy is you have to hear them out and then you come up with an agreement of what's going to work moving forward. I know with my kids I Would say, this isn't working for me. What's a win win? What will work for you? And of course they want the world to go to the moon and back and you have an even common playing ground. So it's a bit of a negotiation.

So let me ask you something, Ron. Have you tried what Lisa just said? Have you done that already.

Through the punishment phase? Yes. It actually got to a point where a young man got involved and we actually had to get the laws involved to put the steps of me and her mother put in place to actually make them progress forward and make these two children understand that what we say is the law and not because we're the parents, but because it is the law.

Okay, fair enough. So you, so it even, it even got beyond normal stuff and gotten into some, some real challenging things. So at this point, where do you stand, where do you particularly stand with the relationship with that child?

That's a tough question because right now our relationship is not very good because she pretty much hates me because I'm the father, you know, and I've had to pretty much lay down the corporal punishment even though she doesn't live in my house.

Okay, okay. Do you have an agreement with her on behavior, on how she is to behave and what is acceptable and what isn't and what is respectable and what isn't?

We do have, I wouldn't say in an agreement. I've told her this is the way you're going to do things. And once you can show me that you can do things this way for X amount of time and there's no time limit, then freedom will come, you know, whenever we cross each hurdle. Well, I've gotten to gain your full freedom back. It's not happening. Not, not in my life.

Okay, fair enough. So for, for laser coaching moment, I would say that it's in three letters. Pcc, Personal commitment contract. And so rather than a voiced contract, I would create a personal commitment contract. And what that is, is you have her, whatever the issues are that are concerning this breakdown because that's what it is to get her to lay out the draft. A one page draft of a personal commitment contract contract. Like a code of conduct, A code of conduct that she helps write because.

You got to get her buy in.

You'Re getting her buy in on it. Can you feel that so far, Ron?

I can, yes.

So, so it starts out with a conversation that, that leads at that conversation. You're ready to get that to pen to paper or from a computer situation. Create a single personal code of conduct. That she is to subscribe to and along with the consequences of her breaking those rules.

And I think something else. I think, I think that what you're basically dealing with is that you have this, this person who is growing up and they're trying to be more independent and assertive. So they're like. And so they're like a. They're like a country breaking off from the queen. They're gonn fight because they want to make their own rules and they want things.

That's true.

The, I think the, the real thing is about how do you negotiate that. And I know it's hard for a parent.

Yes.

Because a parent is like, this is my house.

I brought you in the world, I get to say.

You know what I mean?

Right.

So you have a lot of that. But I think once you get into a point where the, the, you know, the child is trying to figure out where they are, where they stand. They don't know, but they're trying to. They're gonna have that defiance.

Right. And the defiance is very challenging for a hard working man. I know you are. And plus a child to see the borderline or straddling or being disrespectful. The real key thing here though, Ron, is you were teaching her and she is also teaching you. Right. And so we have to.

I think I'm learning more than she.

You probably.

I've got pages of notes for the next two kids that are coming.

Exactly. You probably are. But think of it as a mutual teaching moment or mom for you. And we have to also understand that defiance, although it's very hard to get your arms around, is something. You really want her to be that assertive when she goes to make her way in the world. Because in a year or two she's gonna need that for this tough world that we live in. Yes, yes, I agree. So it's a double edged sword. Wouldn't you. Wouldn't you agree?

It is.

And so I think to manage it and get some confines on it and get in an actual written agreement and get her to sign it. You sign it and her mother signs it and then there. And then you monitor that thing every. I would say you don't need to monitor it to death. I would, I would give it every two weeks or once a month you monitor how we doing with the contract, how are you showing up and.

Because it gives her a voice.

It gives her a voice and she can.

She'll tell you, Ron, what it is that she wants.

Exactly.

Because if you go into it that way well, let's, let's figure out what each other want. And once you do that, then you. Now she's open, now she's like, wow.

He'S going to listen to exactly the buy in port.

Exactly.

And especially because you sound like a tough guy. You even, I'm gonna go so far to say you even sound like you could come from a part of the state where they ride horses. So you used to, you're used to some tough stuff, you know, so, so you're probably gonna, you probably come out like, like, like a bull rider. Like, you know, this my way or the highway, you know what I mean? And that's really, there's nothing wrong with that to some degree. But if it's not working, then we have to change our tone, we have to change our diction, we have to change our communication style and we have to bring her into the fold. Do you guys agree?

Will and Lisa, you know what, Call a family meeting. But both parents should, I love it. Both parents should be present because then you get no. He said, she said no. We're all in the same room. We're making this agreement and this is the way it is moving forward.

And if it's regional, you have to, it may have to be a conference call or Skype.

Well, we actually did a, do a conference call with me and her mother just a couple weeks ago and that I guess lasted a whole about three days. Well, there was another issue that involved.

Of course, and they're going to keep coming. But here's the thing. At the end of the day, Ron, I know you probably do this. Let me just, I'm going to ask the question. So I don't assume. How often do you let that child know that you love her?

At least every two to three days.

Okay. And how often do you show her that in some, in a demonstrative sort of way?

I try at least see her once a month to actually show her how much I do love.

I would, I would expedite that once a month. I would expedite that down to several times a week, whatever that looks like. So not, not something that just going to choke you up, but just going to get that out there. I think if you let a child know how much you love and care and that they do have a voice, even if at the end of the you get to say they have a voice and you continue to show them love, she's acting out, looking for more.

Of your attention, I believe, and I've thought about that and I do agree with it. Now, with our situation, it is very hard because my work schedule, I worked in the oil field and so I have limited time. And that's no excuse for a child that's on the breaking edge of going completely afar.

All the more, all the more importance to make that time and the time that you're together, if it's not quantity.

It'S quality and it's real simple, Ronnie, it looks like this, you don't, you don't have a lot of time. You're driving to and from and you're on a, you know, you're in a very dangerous situation. But on a break, it could be just a 30 second text or two, a one to two minute. Listen, listen, baby, you know, I've got two minutes. I'm on a break, I'm on a rig, I'm on the blah, blah, blah. I just want to let you know how much I love you and that hang in there, you will get this right or whatever. I mean, even a two minute break like that, when she knows it's not a good time for you to call, but you're reaching out to her matters, don't you think? Well, I agree with you, Lis.

No doubt.

So you tell me, Ron, has this laser coaching moment brought any value to you?

Yes, I mean, it brings value, you know, there you can bring up points that I've already tried, but yet you've brought a little more insight to how do I progress further with those.

And what I would also do, Ron, is I would remove the word try when it comes to this, this, this challenging child and put in the word I will, I do, I am, I have. Because when you say you have tried, that leads me to think there was some level of attempt, but I don't know to what degree that was put forth. But when you say we are doing this, I have done this, this is what we do. There's a lot more affirmative action behind that. Do you agree?

Mm, yes, I do.

So it also starts with your language, your language, even in how you're expressing anyone. This call, remove the word try and you've already empowered that situation.

Okay.

Hey, thanks for the call in. We appreciate that. That was a really good one, Ron. That was good. Very, very sharing. Alrighty. There's another caller on the line. Okay, so with that being said, what are your thoughts about that, that laser coaching moment with, with Ron and that and the child that's having the teenage challenges?

You know, I imagine it's, I imagine it's, it's difficult. I mean, when, when, when I was coming up. I was the perfect child.

Of course.

No, I was pretty. I was pretty easy. But then my brother came around. Younger, younger brother.

Okay.

And he, you know, he was tougher on. On my. On my parents. And then. And then they had another one and he was even tougher. So, you know, they had to learn how to. How do I manage that, this child, and how do I manage the next child? You know what I'm saying? So it's, you know, it's work, and you have to commit to it and you have to figure out ways to make the difference.

You do. And I commend someone like Iran that's out there busting his hump to make it happen for his family. And then he's got a challenging child that's making it even, you know, just playing on his emotions. And sometimes he doesn't know if he's doing the right thing or the wrong thing.

Yeah. And I believe in, you know, I'm just talking from family and whatnot, but I believe that traditionally, not traditionally, but sometimes the middle child is always the tougher child just because they have feelings of, you know, not being the first, you know, not being the baby and just laying somewhere in the middle and missing.

I'll tell you what the middle child feels like because I am the middle.

Child, you are the middle child.

And what the middle child looks like is they look at it from the perspective of the best gifts of both the older and the younger. My brother, the supreme athlete, my sister, the intelligent and the beautiful. I'm just ordinary in the middle, okay? That's how I grew up, really. But there is nothing ordinary about me.

Nothing at all.

Okay?

Nothing at all.

And so, so, so. But with that said, enough about me. Now we have a couple callers on the line. Let's take William if we can. William, are you out there? Are you listening to us? William, are you there? Can you hear us?

Yes. Yes, I am.

All right. You are on the air with Just Talk. Let's Just Talk radio. We've got some laser coaching moments, as you know. What is the coaching moment you want to share with us and have us put a little laser to that?

Wow, there are so many. But we're going to stick to the laser. I'm digging the laser, man.

Right on. We feel you in the studio. So what would you like to post up for so we can go after it?

Well, one of the things I like to address is what do you do when you're at a crossroads as far as work is concerned, balancing your personal Life, which is extremely busy and coaching athletes, as well as trying to receive the coaching and being promoted at work.

So, yeah. Your question is, in other words, are you really kind of speaking to work life balance? Yes. Is that really the dilemma is how do you keep yourself in a decent or good place and manage this thing called work and life?

Absolutely.

Man.

Lisa, do you want to have. You have something to say to that? Do you want me to jump on this?

You jump. You take the lead on this.

I think it starts with. I think, first off, William, most of us get it wrong. I think in the beginning, the onset of your words and the words that many, many people echo, they all. You always hear work, life, balance. Have you heard that before, too?

Well, yes.

Have you heard it every day?

Okay, good.

Every day.

And guess what? I think we have it backwards. I think we should consider how to manage the challenge of life, work, balance. Why don't we. Why don't we consider managing your life first, then the work, and then it all falls in place just by switching those two words from work life to life work. Tell me what you've heard.

Wow, I see that you got to continue to be able to, you know, do the things that you need to keep yourself balanced outside of work in order for you to be able to do what you need to do at work.

Very close. Very close. Exactly. What I'm saying is let's examine the quality of your life, the direction that you want to take it, the design that you want to give it, the template that you choose. Let's design what that looks like and then put all the other pieces in its place. The loved ones, the wife, the children, the job, the friendships, you know, so on, forth and so on. The relationships, it starts with life first, not work first. So why do we call it work life balance?

Well, if you balance your life and you and you have that in order, you're able to possibly maybe work a little bit better at work. Succeed a little lot better at work if you're balanced on the outside.

Exactly, exactly. So a lot of us forgive our life because we'll get to it someday, right?

That's a good point.

We live on someday aisle.

Well, we don't. We don't. We don't punch into our lives.

Right. We don't punch. We don't clock into our lives. Right. Well said. Well, but we'll clock into work because we want to get paid, right?

Exactly.

So you're only getting, for the most part, you're getting a monetary exchange from the work punch in. What kind of exchange, William, are you getting. When you check into your own life, you tell me.

Wow.

You know, a lot of times you're getting pulled in a lot of different directions and. Absolutely. I enjoy my life, you know, a hell of a lot more now as you get older. I'm coaching, I coach a lot of different athletes, so I'm extremely busy with sports and I enjoy that. And it seems to balance me a.

Lot more.

Personally and keeps me grounded. So I'll never stop doing that because that's life, my family life. As far as the wife and the children, that's first and foremost. So I feel like I got a pretty good hold on that. But as far as being going through next level at work, my outside coaching abilities seem to pull me a little bit more than the inside of doing the business at work.

Pull you as in get your draw, get your attention. Is that what you mean?

Right, right.

I seem to enjoy that a lot more than I do, you know, work the work side of it, the actual work side.

Lisa, you're going to. Yeah.

I have a question for you, Will. With everything that's going on, that's all very important. But what does Will do for Will? Do you take self care? Do you take care of yourself first? Because if daddy ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.

Exactly. Well, physically I believe I do. Mentally, I believe I service everyone else first before I take care of myself.

Yes. We to get you on the long term coaching program, not the laser coaching program. Because it's going to take us a minute to get you to reverse that.

Yeah.

Because you must take care of Will inside and out first. And that will, will bring a much larger power of presence to the children, to the wife, to the job, to the business, to the relationships. It all starts with the temple. It starts with you first. Elisa's brought up a great laser coaching moment that flips around it to life, work, balance about your life and the lives that you affect. That's what it's about, right, Will?

Yeah. And I think, I think what happens too sometimes we, we have a tendency at work. We, we write it all down. We, we have our to do list.

Right.

Battle plan. We know exactly what we're gonna do. But then when it comes to our lives, it's just kind of blowing in the wind.

Yeah.

Maybe it'll happen, maybe it won't. And if it doesn't, I need to get over and you know, figure it out and get back to work or something of that nature. When I think that if we to do our lives including work it balance. You can, you can check the balance.

I absolutely agree with him. Well, he's right on with that. And, and I'll say this, if we have more time, we can get in depth. That's a whole show. What Will just said with Will Edwards just said, and if more people will, most people will spend more time planning a two week vacation than they spend time planning their own lives.

It's true.

Right.

So you gotta, you gotta, you gotta plan your life by design, the life that you want and you live that life by your plan, making alterations and adjustments along the way because the climate is not always exactly as you've drawn it up on paper, but at least you have it to go back to. Like Will says, you do it at work, but most people don't do it at home.

Yeah.

We actually have a lifestyle portfolio that we designed that we help customers with on the long term program, on the coaching program. And so I mean, and let me.

Just say this, Will, when you, when you start making this change, you know things are going to feel a little unsteady.

Yes.

And things are going to be a little uncomfortable. Things are going to blow up a little bit. Things are going to get lost in the sauce. Here's the deal. You have to push through that bit of chaos in order to get to the other side.

That's well said. And when he does that, Will Edwards, when he does that, what's going to also happen is those people that he's coaching, they will see the difference in him because he's actually a role model at the same time. Well, he's out there doing that coaching, of course. Right, of course. He really is. So Will, that's really, really cool. We're going to be taking another call or two. But let me ask you something. Was this laser coaching moment of value for you?

Absolutely huge.

Huge.

As a matter of fact, Lisa said some key points. She said that it was a balance and you know, basically I need to be able to make sure I take care of myself first before I take care of others. And that was key to me. That was laser to me.

Very, very huge. All right, well, thanks for calling. We appreciate it. Thanks for come back and visit us again.

Thank you.

Okay. Okay, now we got one other caller on the line here. Looks like Madeline's on the call. Let's see if she's there. Madeline, are you on the line?

Of course I'm on the line.

We are lasering it up in here. Lady, we love to hear. That's Will. That's Will with the Laser gun. He's just making sure you knew that. You're up.

We're gonna do our best.

Madeline's like, be careful because you're in the studio and you don't know where you're aiming. So what's your laser coaching opportunity for us today?

Well, I'm recently retired, as you know.

Okay.

I've been very busy with getting all those little tasks do lists that I wanted to get done now that I've retired and I'm getting ready to come to an end with that. And I'm going to want to have something to do with my time. And I have, I have two thoughts. I can either go back to work on a part time basis doing something completely different.

Okay.

Than I've ever done in my life, which would might be fun, or I can go to work as a volunteer working with a woman's organization for underprivileged women that are trying to get back into the workforce, trying to help them to get themselves organized, to get out and get that interview and to have a successful interview and to get back in the workforce to get themselves back on their feet. So there's my quandary.

So the quandary is which, which figure out which direction to go. Correct?

Correct.

Okay, let me ask you this. How many years did you work in the industry that you worked in before you retired? 40, 40 years. Of those 40 years, what, what industry was it?

Gaming.

Gaming. Of the gaming industry of the 40 years. How many of those 40. How many years of the 40 years did you absolutely love what you did for a living?

Probably about 37 years or so. 38 years. It was only the last two years that I became uncomfortable in my environment.

Okay, fair enough. So in the last two years it was a place you knew wasn't going to work for you much longer.

Correct.

Because I knew that they wanted me out. There was no doubt in my mind that they wanted me gone.

Yeah, that can change things. So, so I'm. So my question to you now is, do you have any idea what you love doing right now, now that gaming is no longer part of your circle?

Well, right now I love doing nothing.

Okay, well, there's your volunteer job right now. You get to volunteer. Well, you just fulfill your volunteer role. You got to volunteer to do nothing. So. So no. Okay.

So.

So you love doing nothing. That's, that's, that's going to serve you for a while because you're still in transition mode. You're still in decompress. You're still catching her breath. Yes. You're very much enjoying the freedom that comes from working 40 years in one industry, in a very tough industry. And now just not having to do anything at any time is a blessing. But at some point, because you are motivated, personal, you couldn't work for 40 years, you're going to want to do something that brings you meaning and joy in your life. So what I would say to you is that you start to, in your doing nothing mode, I would start tapping into not to look for work or look for a volunteer perspective at the moment. Start asking the question of what do you really, really love doing?

That's a good question. You know, and the other thing too is I think that when, when I have to make a decision about something of this sort, I look at it from many different aspects. Look at, you know, how is it going to benefit me?

Right.

How is it going to benefit me and my wife as a separate.

Okay, compartment.

And then how is it going to benefit more people, others?

Right.

Correct.

Right.

So then I look at it and I just list it out for myself.

Right.

And whatever has the most benefit, that's the direction that I try to go in.

I liked, I like Madeline. I like what Will sand. And along with that, what I would add to that is get in touch with your best gifts and talents.

Yes.

What are, what are Madeline's best supreme gifts and talent? What is she uniquely qualified to do? Like almost no other or no other. What is that? Along with what Will said? And the reason why I say that is because at this point, you now are in a luxury position of getting to now live the rest of your life through purpose. See, everything Lisa and I do, and Will, I can speak for him, everything that we do is on purpose because we know our purpose and we're living from that purpose. And that is that direct attachment to our best gifts and talents.

And for example, Maddie, do you enjoy golf? Do you enjoy nature? What are the things that bring you the most joy? And then back into it. See what you could do. Would you go to a golf course? Could you somehow get a part time job there?

Something related to the gift. Something related. That's why I say, Maddie, it's a gifts and talents thing that's connected to the purpose as you start to live your life on purpose and with purpose. Oh my God, what a life. Plus you get the luxury of choosing, not having to be forced by the confines of having to make an X amount of money just to put food on the table. You've got your retirement covered. So now you can truly choose what Brings you passion and joy and excitement and your ability to make a meaningful impact on the globe. You will make a global contribution with that choice. What are your thoughts?

Well, I've always thought that giving back to the community was going to be something that I should do at some point in my life.

Okay.

And society has done so much for me. Even though it's been at my energy, it's been at my under my control to go out and find it.

Well, I like that the one thing, the one thing I would shift about that is the word. I'm a man that I believe that everything rises and falls in language and the power of the word. And the one thing I don't do, if I catch myself, I immediately correct it as I don't like to shoot on people. Nobody likes to be should on.

That's right.

You just said you should something. I'd like for you to change the should on to that you want to.

I love it.

Right. You said I should give back to society. You may want to consider changing that to. I've always known that I want to give back to society or I can give back. You don't. Should is something that we don't know. And like, you should, you know, brush your teeth four times a day or you should lose some weight or you should, you know, grow some hair or, you know, no one really likes to shoot on things. So even if you say that, I think you should change that to what you can do.

You know what? I think you're right. I think, I think it was a mischoice of words.

Easy, easy. But with you, you sound like a real direct woman and you know what you want.

And I think, I think she sounds like she has a lot to offer.

She does have a lot to offer. I can feel that too. I agree.

It's just something that, that came through when you started to talk about the issue. It seems, Madeleine, that you have something to offer. And I think that you might be fulfilled by giving back and.

Absolutely. And I'd be willing to bet even the 37 years of gaming that was more pleasurable. When you start doing the things like Will says that brings you pleasure and gift, then I know for a fact that that's going to. That's going to outpace those 37 years. The very first time you start that give back program or sharing or gifting.

I think that is a very valid and very accurate assessment of where I should go. And I do like that. So I think I'm going to start thinking about what it is I Like best, what it is. I love best.

We know it's not golf stuff.

But.

But Madeline, we want to let you know that, lady, you have now been lasered. I hope that you enjoyed it. Yes.

And hopefully it was in all the right places.

That's right.

That's right.

I'll let you know. We're gonna need to change self examination here.

That is a different program, Maddie. That's a whole different show. But you know what? You're getting us thinking. We might have to start something here. So thank you, thank you for, thank you for calling in as a brilliant. It was a very, very brilliant piece. There are a lot of people out there struggling with that same thing. So we appreciate you calling in and giving us an opportunity for a little laser coaching moment. And we hope that you will tune in and call in at another time too. Very much appreciate it.

Thank you. Keep on listening.

I will. You have a great day.

You do the same.

That was awesome, wasn't it?

That was great.

You know what? That reminded me of this. Listen to this. Oh, here comes. Yeah, here comes Maddie. Reminded me of this. Yeah, do it.

All right. If you guys get. You can't see it at home. We're dancing, but as soon as the music comes on, we just all start. Just can't even stop ourselves. But you know, you know what's great is that she has an opportunity to sculpt herself.

She does. She does.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, she does.

We, we all our lives, we just hope and pray that we can just do things that we love to do.

Exactly. She does. She, she. And she knows that.

She knows.

But the crossroads is which way to go. And it's really not a crossroads, Lisa or Will, of which way to go. Whether it's whether she's volunteering or she picks a part time job, that is not a real crossroads. She doesn't need to consider that. What Maddie wants to consider, what are her best unique gifts and talents? What is she on this earth for? What is she here to do now she's got the platform to do it uninhibited.

Yeah. Yeah.

And so whether it's on the volunteer side or on the pay side where she has a part time gig or whatever, if it's connected to her gifts and talents and she's expressing her purpose, it won't matter which it is, you know.

You know what's great about that? A friend of mine said to me the other day, I was having dinner and he said, he said what? He asked me this question, what Is it what makes you the happiest?

Right.

I like it.

What makes you the happiest? And I'm like, you know, you take a second because we have so many things happening going on in our lives. We're trying to do this, that, that and the other thing. But I think that it comes down to that. And so many people get into the rut of, I have to go to work, I have to make a bath to grind. Exactly.

Sure.

They get on that wheel, and that wheel just turns and turns and turns, and they never see that happiness there. So, you know, so Maddie has that. The opportunity to say, well, what makes Maddie happy?

She's got the intelligence, she's got the experience. She's created an investment situation, sounds like, with a healthy retirement that allows her to actually choose. And if she doesn't start choosing right now, Lisa and will, she will get stuck in this rut and never make that choice. She needs to start doing the work right now, in transition. Not a lot of work, but a perpetual seeking to answer that question.

I also think that people. It's a great question to ask people because people are. Most people are givers, and they just give and give and give. And you say, well, I want to give to this person. I want to do this. And that's what brings me happiness. No, but what brings you. What makes you happy. You as an individual, not continually giving to others, but for self, what's important for self.

That friend also said to me, I cannot make somebody else happy. I can only work on myself and get myself to a place.

That friend said that to you?

Yes, of happiness. And then by doing so, I affect you because you see, you understand what I'm saying? You see that this happiness. And I think that for any viewer, any listener out viewer, I want tv.

But you can handle both. You got both platforms down. It's all good. Wait, wait, wait. What was that? Right, here we go. Here it is right again. There it is. There. That's Will. Baby, baby, baby. There it is. All right, all right. Let's turn that down. Let's turn that. No, you can handle that.

But any. But I think any listener out there, you know, and you. You're in the midst of. Maybe you're not in Madeline's position where you're retired. Da, da, da. And you're living in this race and you're in the whole throes of life, the rat race.

Yeah.

I think that finding that thing and just doing and starting and doing it is going to make a huge difference.

It's A huge difference.

No, it may not be your career right now, but find that thing that makes you, the happiness that brings you joy.

It. Actually, I agree with you. It comes from the. Excuse me. Like the movie Bucket list.

Yeah.

Where Morgan Freeman and Jack are on top of the mountain and Morgan crosses his arm and Jack's trying to figure it out. And he says to him. What? He Sundays, there are two things that are going to help you get to a better place. And I'm paraphrasing.

Yeah.

He says, what brings you. What do you. What brings you joy in your life and how many others that you bring joy in their life.

Good point.

He said you, you get those two things right? And this bucket list thing is no problem. And it's like you said, so oftentimes we don't know what we want. We'll go through life not even ever asking ourselves a question like you. It was a number of years back that I was sitting in front of a professional that helps people when the hardwiring gets goofy in the head. So I'm sitting in front of a therapist and she asked me, so, what do you want? And by the way, I have been coaching for 11 years at that point. So I. I've had thousands of lives run through my hands helping them what they want. She said, well, what do you want? And I said, I want this and I want that and I want this. I want. She said, no, no, no. What do you want? I want this for that person. I want this for that person. She says, I'm asking you the third time, the final time, what do you want? I said, huh?

Yeah.

I said. And then it hit me. I had no clue what? I want it. And then I asked her, I said, well, I need some help figuring that out. Well, that's when she had to give me the bad news. She couldn't help me with that. She could write me a script, but.

She could not help you with it.

She could. She chose not to because that's two to three hours of talk therapy when she can write a 15 minute script.

Right, Right.

You follow me? So I had to go figure out what I wanted. So you're right on to figure out what you want. As simple as that question is, it can be one of the most elusive things that people never answer.

Yeah.

Yeah. Your thoughts? Lis? Huge.

I have nothing to add on that.

We're at the top of the mountain.

I was actually doing the multitasking thing and seeing what somebody had said about the show.

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Wow. Well, you know what I. You know what I.