Dialing Down Your Calorie Consumption

Hey, everyone. Welcome to today's program. Yourself then podcast. Today we're talking about dialing down your calories. If you want to lose weight, you've got to reduce your average calorie consumption. Now, you probably say, well, no, Jim, I already know that, but let's hold on. The way we're going to talk about, it's a little different than you normally think about it, right? Because typically what people do is they have some sense, we have some idea that our average, our weight is a reflection of what we're eating, okay? So let's just make it real clear that your weight is a reflection of your average calorie consumption, okay? Now, here's where most people, I think, go wrong is what they will do is they will want to get the fastest results possible. So they will go from their average calorie consumption and they will dramatically reduce it. Huge reduction. It's not unusual for people to cut 50, 60, 70% of their calories out on day one, right? The previous year, they were eating this many calories. Now tomorrow's Monday, I'm gonna eat this many calories, okay? And the idea is that they're gonna drastically cut calories so they start losing weight quickly. And then once they get to their goal weight, then they're going to bring their calories back up to some maintenance level. The old elusive maintenance level, right? Now, no one ever finds the maintenance level, right? Because it's estimated that 95% of dieters that lose weight put the weight back on. So this maintenance level really is kind of this.

Mythical being, this mythical thing that doesn't seem to exist for anyone. But. So what I'm suggesting to you is that instead of drastically cutting your calories down so you can lose weight quick, and then imagining you're going to bring it up to some maintenance level, because that's very overwhelming, as you can imagine, to cut 50, 60, 70% of your calories out is extremely stressful. Do you. Do you understand that? We've got to recognize that at first, because I think a lot of people underestimate just how stressful and overwhelming it is to cut those calories down and maintain that. Just, first of all, okay, so what I would rather do is I would rather slowly dial my calories down comfortably.

And I'm going to keep dialing them down until I get to my goal weight. I don't want to do this stuff. I don't want to do the drastic cut and then somehow bring it up. I don't want to do that. Your chances of success with that are extremely low. If unless you think 5% success rate is high, you may. I don't. I think a 5% success rate is not high, it's very low. So I wouldn't do that. The idea of drastically cutting calories out and then bringing them up some magical thing doesn't seem to work well. Okay. So what I'd rather do is I'd slowly like to dial the calories down until I get to my goal weight and then live there forever.

So I'm sharing this with you because this is, this is a different paradigm. The dieting has got you to think of drastically cutting. Now this is why you hate dieting. One of the big reasons, and it's one of the main reasons you don't lose weight. Because in your mind, when you think about how to lose weight, most of you are going to be thinking about doing something crazy.

Drastic.

And most people don't want to do drastic crazy, okay? So you avoid it. So what I'm saying not only is more effective in the long run, but it's also easier to get started with it because it's not that big a deal. We're not looking to go from here to here. We're looking go to here, from here, here to here. And we're very intentionally looking at dialing our calories down in a comfortable way again. Another thing that dieting never takes into account. Dieting only cares about fast weight loss results. And by the way, the main problem with dieting is that you may lose the weight, but then you put it back on. Right? That's what everyone says. Oh, it's not the losing weight, it's staying there. It's really hard to stay there. Do you think it might have anything to do with the fact that you're doing this wild, drastic cut in calories?

It's hard to get used to that. It's hard to maintain something so drastic and extreme. So the idea here is that we're going to slowly dial the calories down comfortably because the other key part of your calorie consumption is to understand that humans experience reality in a relative way. Okay? So what that means is if you are eating this much normally and have been eating this much for as long as you can remember, and you drastically cut it by 50, 60%, that is going to feel so overwhelming to you. Whereas if you start here and you cut 10% out, that's going to be kind of easy. But then what happens is after you've lived at the 10% reduction for, let's say, a month, two months, you start to normalize to it. You start to, your stomach starts to normalize to that amount of food, that stretching and that contraction level. Your hormones start to regulate to that. Your psychological expectations of what you're gonna eat and what's satisfying to you start to regulate to that. And what happens is after a month or two of reducing your calories by 10%, that just feels normal and natural. You didn't overwhelm yourself. You didn't stress yourself out, you didn't freak yourself out. You systematically and strategically dialed down the calories in a way that works for you. And then you live with that for a few months and you normalize to that. Now it feels normal to live at 10% lower. Now once it feels normal. Now if you want to lose more weight, let's dial it down a little bit more. But let's think about it in phases. Again, it's just, to me, it's just like Mount Everest with the base camps. You can't just climb from the bottom of Everest up to the top. Your body can't handle it, so it needs to stop at base camp and acclimate to the new altitude. Well, your body, mind and emotions have to acclimate to reduced calories. And when you go from here to here, there's no, it's very difficult to acclimate to that because it, and by the way.

You'Re not acclimating to anyways because let's face it, right as a dieter, you're not trying to acclimate down here. You're trying to lose weight as fast as possible. So the goal is never to live down at this calorie range long term. So there's no acclimating down here going on. And you wouldn't be able to anyways. It's too drastic. So what we're looking to do instead is a completely different paradigm where we dial it down 10. Now, again, I'm saying 10% is just a general rule of thumb. It depends on each person. Some people might cut 10% down, it might feel like a lot for them. Some people might cut 10%, they don't notice it. So everyone's different. But the, the, the theory is the same. The numbers may change a little bit, but the idea is we dial it down a little bit and we get comfortable and used to it. And once we're comfortable and used to it, then we dial it down a little bit more, get comfortable and used to it, dial it down a little bit more until we get to our goal weight. And by the way this is the most effective way to get to your goal weight because, hey, it's not overwhelming, that's obvious. But the other key thing is that your goal weight, you don't even know what your goal weight is. Your goal weight is not just a number. It's not just what you want to look like. Your real true goal weight is the number you can live at relatively comfortably. Another reason why no one sticks with a diet long term, it's not built for that. Okay, so it's a totally different concept. And I think if you start to reflect on it and consider it and you start to compare what you've been doing against that, it's going to become very clear very quickly why you've been struggling so much. As a matter of fact, if I wanted to stress you out about losing weight as much as I possibly could, I would teach you dieting because it's the most stressful way to approach your weight loss and it's the shortest lasting one. So again, this idea of strategically and systematically dialing your calories down in a way that's comfortable for you is really the path. I've seen work the best over and over and over again. And it feels the best at the beginning and it obviously feels the best at the end because it just keeps going and you're able to live your goal weight. So anyways, if you want to go deeper into this idea and this concept, click the link in my bio. Go get the free hypnosis session I give you. It is free. It's called the new Thin Me. It's a kickstart session. I got a bunch of new stuff coming for you. Anyways, it's free as well. So get on my list even if you don't want to listen to hypnosis session I got a training for. I got a bunch of stuff for you, so go check that out. It's all free. You can click the link in my bio or go to program yourself then.com and go check that out. And if you have any questions, feel free to ask them. That's what I'm here for, is to help you all out. Any questions are welcome. What's up, Claudia? Claudia says hi, Jim, how are you? I'm doing great. When it gets colder out, I tend to eat more bread. Yeah, sure. Weather, seasons, different situations are going to trigger different cravings and responses. Okay? Completely and totally normal and natural. Your goal, Claudia, and you've already done it, is to become aware of them. So great job. Okay? And so once you realize when it Gets colder, I tend to want more bread. I think that's a good realization to have. And now you can begin to ask the question, what other things can I eat when it gets colder? What other things can I do when it gets colder? Because what do you want more bread for? A lot of times now there's, there's a lot of philosophies on this and everyone's different, so I'm going to keep it general. But sometimes it might get colder and we feel colder. Okay, no, Jim. But a lot of times we just go right to the food. Because we've been taught in this culture to deal with everything emotionally, physically, with food. But, you know, again, if it gets colder, you know, you might have a habit of going towards the bread or to food. And one way to deal with it, ironically, might be to take more hot showers, to get a nice warm blanket, to wear warmer socks inside. Again, we want to deal with this in a multitude of ways. You know, again, that's not going to completely eliminate your bread craving. I understand that. But it may support it. You never know. So keep an eye out on that stuff and pay attention to it. You know, again, the fact that you're aware of it, the fact that you're aware of that now, Claudia, is great. Okay, so start to pay attention. You're in the awareness phase. Remember, Claudia, remember you got this beautiful goal weight blueprint, right? Everyone in the program, you've all got this, at least digitally, right? Some people got the physical version, but. But you all have the PDF version of this. So what you're looking to do, eating aware, right? And then structure. When are you craving the bread most? You can tell all the time. Probably not. You probably crave it more. At certain times of the day, certain days of the week, certain situations start to notice those patterns and start to work on resolving them. But great job being aware of it.

Let's see through the tick tock questions. I always neglect tick tock in the beginning. Not anymore. Curveball said just bought the program. All right, Curveball, Nice. Congratulations. Super excited to see you in the program. I think you're gonna love it. It's just gonna keep getting better and better. And you joined right at the right time. You always joined at the right time, I think. But especially right now because there's gonna be lots of improvements on the circle app. Circle apps come in down the pike with some improvements, some messaging improvements that are gonna really improve the program, specifically with gym AI stuff. So there's gonna be a lot more gym AI weaved through the program reminding you, reinforcing and helping you out. And so I'm super excited for y' all see that. So welcome to the program. Nice job, Curveballs. So make sure you get on these calls too, because this is where I'm happy to help you through it. If you ever have any questions. What's up, Karen? Karen says, why am I always thinking about food? If I'm going to a family event, my first thought is, I wonder what they're going to have to eat. Rather than, I can't wait to see my cousin. Food has become my foremost thought. Yeah, I mean, that's a fair. That's a fair question, Karen. And you're not alone. I think Most people in 2025 in America anyways are dealing with that. And there's a couple reasons why. The biggest reason of all. No, I would say it's not the biggest reason. I would say there's two big reasons. And I think the two big reasons why you all think about food constantly. And I get this. I used to, too.

I'm gonna make it three reasons. I'm gonna make it three. Three big reasons. Okay. Number one is the food itself. The food is ultra processed. And again, assuming, assuming, Karen, that you're the food you're thinking about and the food you're eating are more on the process, ultra processed side, you know, unless you're thinking about going to your family's a family event and you can't wait to eat the see what apples people brought. You can't wait to see what salad, you know, Aunt Susie brought. But that's probably not the case. Okay, so the first thing is the food itself has become more addictive, meaning we think about it all the time. It literally impacts our psychology, our biochemistry.

More powerfully. So, so the food itself has changed. And so we think about it more. It's more addictive. The next thing is that where.

Culturally, always these two kind of blur together a little bit. We're constantly being conditioned that we use food for everything. Okay. So if we go to a social thing with family, now, this might sound strange to some people, it would be obvious for others, but sometimes going to a family event might be stressful for you. You might be. You might be an introvert, you might love your family, but you just might still feel awkward or uncomfortable in social situations. And so thinking about the food is a way to manage that. Right? Focusing on the food is a way to manage the, you know, the anxiety you might be feeling. Okay. Which again, comes back to a bigger thing that a lot of times, we've been taught to use food for our emotional management strategy. We deal with our emotions through food. The positive emotions we're celebrating with food, the negative emotions we're dealing with eating food. Okay, and then the third one, which is kind of related to this is, is the marketing. You have to understand we are constantly, constantly, constantly being queued to think about these hyper addictive foods. I mean, you can't get away from it. It's constant. It's literally your drive to work in the morning. You're driving by 100, 200 food cues.

You're looking at your phone, you're probably every two, three seconds, probably seeing food cues in the form of ads. If you're watching TV every couple minutes, there's food ads, food being shown, people eating food.

So again, why are we thinking about food all the time? These are the big ones. The food's hyper addictive, so it causes us to think about it. We've been taught to use food for everything emotionally, and we're constantly being reinforced through advertising and marketing. And now the culture, it's seeped right into the culture to just constantly think about food and everything becomes around food constantly. And I hear you, Karen. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Any event. Yeah, well, so if it's any event, again, that might imply that you have anxiety a little bit with social things. I'm just guessing. You may not. So. So you may not as well. But social anxiety is extremely normal. And a lot of times when people go to events, deep down, they feel very anxious about it and they deal with that anxiety by overeating and focusing on the food. So again, the idea that we think about food, like, that's why the food noise thing, to me, I want to ring people's necks because it's like, I've been focusing on food noise for over 30 years. And.

When you, when you think about it in a more robust way, it's pretty obvious why we're all thinking about food so much. And so the fact that they all of a sudden, oh, it quiets food noise quiet. Well, okay, yeah, I'm all for quieting food noise, but in order to genuinely quiet food noise, you need to understand it first and then strategically quiet it. And this shit is just. Again, I'm not against GLP1s necessarily, but it's annoying to me. They just quiet the food noise thing, you know, because I'm not saying it doesn't quiet the food noise, by the way, but what I'm saying is that there's other ways to quiet the food Noise too, that are natural. And they start by understanding what caused the food noise in the first place. So the fact that, well, I don't understand. I'm always thinking about food and I don't know, no idea why. Like if you have food noise all the time and you have no idea why, you really have no clue how your mind works, the environment you live in, what's going on on a deeper level, which is to say that, who knows, maybe you're a person who could learn about this stuff, who could learn how to approach their. Their weight strategically by focusing on your mindset, lifestyle and eating and strategically working on these things so you don't need GLP1s and so that you can interact with food in your environment, a way where you can live at your goal weight without needing injections so you can still enjoy food when you want to enjoy it. Again, I'm not. For some people, no matter what they do, they'll never be able to lose weight unless they go on a GLP1. Okay, I said it. But there's a whole lot of people out there that can absolutely influence their weight and their eating without any GLP1s. You've just never learned how to even approach this whole topic. And I'm not picking on you, Karen, because it's very common. I hear this all the time. People talk about the food noise. Food. I don't know what that was. A food noise, is it? Well, just relax for a second, let's talk about it.

Because again, we have no idea why you're thinking about food all the time. That to me means that you haven't really reflected. You really are lacking a lot of knowledge and understanding about how your mind works and how your mind works within the environment you live in. And that's what we do with Program Yourself then. We. It's a self exploration program. It's a program where you understand yourself, learn about yourself, understand how your brain works. So much of Program yourself then this is why, by the way, when I show you the goal weight pyramid, what's the biggest section? The mindset. The mindset's the biggest piece. It's what everything else rests on. Right? So it's like again, always make this point that if you're a typical dieter, this is what you've done to lose weight in the past. Just that you've done that. Give me a meal plan. Tell me what to eat. Tell me what to do. Count calories. Okay, I'll do it. Count points. All right. Don't eat for 16 hours. Fine. That's about as much of the goal weight pyramid as you've done. And there's all this stuff that you can work on. You don't think this is going to make any difference in your results? You know what I mean? I know there's people out there. No, it doesn't matter. I've tried every diet, Jim. Yeah, I ain't talking about diet. And I. Every diet is this much of the goalway pyramid because every diet's just telling you what to do. There's no diet out there showing you how to create your own eating plan based on awareness, structure and optimization. You, you have no idea. You've never thought those terms. Lifestyle, forget about it. You haven't systematically weaved this healthy lifestyle into your life and you absolutely have not gone through the mindset in this way. I know it for a fact. So when you say, oh, I've tried everything, Jim. They haven't tried everything, tried every diet, and every diet's a bunch of bullshit. There's not one good diet out there, not long term. Think about it. 100 years of dieting. There's not one single diet that rises to the top of the list of being most effective. None of them work long term. None of them are effective long term. So yeah, you could try a thousand diets. It doesn't matter. None of them work anyways. There we go. What's up? Rlt? RLT says hello. Jim I finally figure out that actually I get bloated after eating deep fried foods. It was hard to stop eating them before, but now it's easy to stop eating them because if I enjoy only a few minutes when eating, then feeling terrible and sluggish for days after eating is not worth it.

Rlt. Yes, you're absolutely right. A thousand percent. That is the cornerstone of program yourself, then eating wise is to stop just focusing on the. Stop just focusing on the anticipation and consumption of the food. Because that's how you're making decisions with the food is your. You're thinking about getting the food, eating the food that cranks up your desire for the food. Then you try and fight that increased desire with willpower. That's your strategy to change your eating, to use willpower to fight off your ever increasing desire for food and program yourself. Then we shift our gaze just a little bit where we start focusing on the consequence of food. Not the weight consequence, the immediate consequence that visits us six seconds after you take the last bite. How do you feel physically, mentally, emotionally? If you start paying attention to how you feel physically, mentally and emotionally, after you finish eating, you will naturally start making better food choices, just the way RLT just said.

Yeah. Then I'll finish up. I will start program myself to think, how will I feel after eating before I put foods in my body? There you go. That's one of the biggest questions we ask. And program yourself then. That's one of the core mantras. How will I feel? How will I feel? Not how I feel way in the future. How will I feel six seconds after I take the last bite when I'm thinking about what I'm going to eat? How am I going to feel a half hour from now? You start asking that question, you're going to start making different decisions naturally, automatically.

So great job. Yeah. You're welcome. Rltr. Thank you so much, Jim. You teach me so much. Yes. Thank you. But you're using it. That makes me so happy to hear what you just wrote because that's, that's the cornerstone of it, you know, if we change how we think, we change how we eat, I hope that makes sense. You know, and you've never taught this stuff because, you know, the diet industry doesn't want you to lose weight. The diet industry is just a branch of the food processing industry. Angela, how's it going? Angela says, I'm intermittent fasting. It helps me so I don't eat at night. Great. I think that's great. Intermittent fasting is fine. I mean, it's not a cure all. It's one tactic to use. But you know, hey, it's, it's a tactic and it works. I use, I call it nighttime fasting. But yeah, taking a break from eating is one of the greatest gifts you can give your body and yourself. So that's wonderful, Angela. I'm glad that's working for you.

Yeah. If anyone has any other questions, feel free to ask them.

It says I've made a list with the plus and minus of my current weight and plus and minus for a lower range of weight. The results, current weight plus 7, minus 14 and a lower range weight plus 14, minus 6. And I made another list with a solution for the six points that were cons. I have it all clear in front of me. I can't remember them all the time. I'm not sure if I completely understand that. I've made a list with plus and minuses in my current weight.

Sure. I exactly understand that. Lena says, hi, Jim. If I have a nap in the day, when I wake, I always want something sweet. How do I stop this? Oh, that's very interesting, Lena. Great job paying attention. So first thing, I'm a little bit of a nap expert. So my first question is if I have a nap in the day when I wake up I'm always want something sweet. So my first question is how long are these naps? The secret about napping is the length of it. Okay. Now NASA says 24 minutes is the perfect nap length. I say it's 14 minutes for me. Now everyone's different, so you probably have to figure out what's best for you. Well, how do you figure that out? Well, if I take, if I just take a nap with no timer and I just sleep as long as I want, there's a good chance I'll sleep half hour, 40 minutes, wake up groggy and tired. If I sleep for 14 minutes, set the timer on my watch so that it goes off and I wake up. 14 minutes from now I wake up refreshed, clear headed and feeling good. So my first, easiest potential solution, Lena, may be to notice your nap length and how you feel when you wake up. Okay? Because if you're napping for 30 plus minutes, there's a good chance you're waking up groggy. If you wake up groggy, that may be contributing to the sweet craving that you're waking up with, you know, and so that's the first thing I would pay attention to. Now let's just say you say no, I'm napping 20 minutes, I wake up refreshed, great, But I have a sweet craving. Okay, let's just say. So if that's the case, what I would say next is how do I want to deal with that craving for something sweet when I wake up, right? So I'm not looking to stop it. How are you going to stop it? How are you just going to stop a sweet craving? Somebody let me know, you know. So my first thing would be is I want to have some alternatives, some options. And so I would try some different things. Now again, you can't do any of this if you're not aware. So congrats, you're aware now of this. So now you can try different stuff until you figure out what works for you. But you could try right off the bat what I would try. Assuming the nap time, that's the first thing I would focus in on. But the next thing I would focus in on is I would be prepared for this. And I'd say what else could I do? First thing I would try because it's always my first level of, of trying something is I would drink some water I would wake up and I would drink some water and I'd see how I felt when I did that. It may do nothing. It may fix it. You never know. Okay, next I would say, okay, if I want something sweet and it's not going away, my next thing is I'm going to go for fruit. Fruit sweet. And it'll scratch that itch, mostly, and it'll be easier to move on with your day. And you could start with an apple, a banana. Grapes. And there's sweet grapes if you really want sweet. And then I would have a plan for me, because, again, wanting something sweet's not necessarily a problem. It's what you do when you want something sweet. That's the problem. And so that's what we're focusing on now. And so if you have a fruit ready to go, you could use as an opportunity that. Now that's an opportunity that you're using to put fruit into your body. So that. That's kind of how I would start approaching it.

Let's see. Laura says. Laura says. Thank you, Jim. Been listening to you for a few weeks now and feeling so much calmer about food. No binges, which were my biggest issue. Great job, Laura. I'm proud of you. That's what I mean, you know, Binge eating now again. Yeah. All right. Everyone's different. So when you say, God, I can't stand almost. It's almost like you say, oh, binge eating. Binge eating for one person means one thing, and binge eating for another person means absolutely nothing. Like, totally different. You know what I mean? So I'm always hesitant when I say these words, as if they mean just one thing for every person. But when, regardless. That's really great, Laura, that you've made some real headway with the binge eating, which in a lot of cases, binge eating is relatively easy to impact positively. Yes. Mark my words. I said it. Okay. I didn't say it's easy to fix. I said it's. It's pretty easy to get, to improve substantially. You're binge eating pretty fast. That's what I'm saying, and I stand by it. And again, most the time is feeling more calm, grounded, relaxed, energized is the easiest way to just automatically make positive impacts on your binge eating. So that's a great job, Laura. I'm super proud of you. And you probably notice you're making better choices and all the rest of it as you've calmed down a bit. Calming down, I would say, strategically for program yourself then is the bullseye. The heart of program yourself then strategically is to become more calm and relaxed, more grounded, more centered. So that's wonderful. And Laura follows it up by saying, recognizing how emotionally I feel about the scale has been a big deal. Working on desensitizing myself to that. Yeah, great job. And that takes some work. I mean, you know, a lot of, for a lot of people, that scale, I mean, you've got decades and decades of real negative association, you know. So again, the scale thing is absolutely worth working on in my opinion, because it's a valuable tool to have in your arsenal, the ability to step on the scale and see what the real numbers are. But for a lot of people, they've got so much kind of like psychological trauma attached to the scale that they can be hard, but it's definitely worth it and it's rewarding and it's valuable when you get that, some handle on that. So great job. Keep it up. Laura, again, that's a lot. We do focus on a lot in program Yourself things. That is, it's a challenge, but it's important.

So ban and says Food noise is the new doctor pharmaceutical label for parasites out of control that demand more sugar, et cetera. That and emotional reasons that give you a quick hit of dopamine. Yeah, agree, Dan? I agree. I think the food noise thing is just this catch all phrase that doesn't really mean a whole lot. It means different things for different people, you know, and like you said, some people, for you it may mean, you know, parasites and gut bacteria and microbiome stuff for, for someone else it might be emotional things that go on. For someone else it might be the, you know, leptin signal and then in their brain. And there's just a million different ways that people can kind of imagine food noise. But again, what bothers me about food noise is what bothers me about the pharmaceuticals. And I have nothing against pharmaceuticals. I take a statin, so I'm not anti medicine. What I don't like about pharmaceuticals though, is that it's almost always sold as something to treat the symptoms and not deal with the core problem. And that's my issue with food noise. Again, if you put all your time and effort, you know, I was thinking this, like I did this with cholesterol. I've got genetic high cholesterol. My father died of 54 of a heart attack. I mean, there's a precedent for it in my body and. But when I realized this, I spent like 10 years working on lowering my cholesterol in every possible way. Naturally. And I was unsuccessful. And so then I felt comfortable going on the stat.

So I'm not here to say, like, oh, you should Never use a GLP1 to deal with food noise. I'm not here to say that. What I'm saying is, I have seen over and over and over and over and over again in my career, people get a handle on the food noise. Naturally. Everyone. No, a lot of people, yes. So my message isn't never use a GLP1. I'm. I'm not, you know, ignorant to the. The. This whole thing. What I am saying is there is a natural answer to this, too. And if you start to approach that answer and start to engage with it, you may get. You may be able to resolve a lot of it. And wouldn't you prefer that?

Yeah. Vicki says scale's a great tool to help me stay informed and aware. Yeah, well, Vicki's in the program, so again, Vicki, you know, has already, you know, it came into the program. A lot of skills anyways. But in the program, that's a big thing we use, is to turn the scale into a tool. You know, in the ideal world, and this isn't a crazy thought, I know it's gonna. May sound crazy to some of you, but in an ideal world, we can make the scale to be just like the speedometer of your car, where it's just. It's a measurement tool. You know, you just use it as a. It's just one data point that you use to make decisions with and adjust with. Right. You look at your speedometer, don't freak out. If you're going too fast, you slow down. If you're going too slow, you speed up. You're just using as a data point to help inform what you should do next. The scale can be the same way, and I think it's invaluable. The scale was an invaluable tool for me to manage my weight. Imagine that. You know, being terrified of the scale is like a painter being terrified of their brushes.

It just doesn't make any sense. You know, you're gonna have a much harder time. Now, don't get me wrong. Can you lose weight without the scale? Yes. Are there people that absolutely despise the scale? Absolutely. They. They shouldn't use it. Just leave it alone, I guess, you know, But I think most people are better served by putting some energy into.

Changing the way that they feel about the scale. So Claudia says positive things plus and negative things. On my current weight were 7 positive things and 16 negative things. And if In a lower range, the numbers were 17 and 6.

All right, so you're basically. You're ranking things that are helping you or hurting you. But that's great because it's giving you more awareness. So I think that's wonderful.

What's up, Sweet Crest? How's it going.

Batgirl? Batgirl. Batmom says, what is your need hours when you get to nap? What is your need hours when you get to nap.

I'm not sure what that means, but I will say, just talking about napping, and I think it's funny I just had this conversation a little bit ago, but I think in our society, we. I know this for a fact because I. I've been. Again, I've been doing this professionally for over 20 years, and I went through my own thing with napping. I didn't want to nap. I thought napping was bad. It made me a bad person, a lazy person. It wasn't good for me. I didn't want to do it, okay? And so I had all this weird, weird baggage with it, but I've overcome that now. It's the greatest thing ever. And I've worked with a lot of people, and I realize a lot of people have baggage with napping. It's very interesting to me, and I think in a very subconscious level, the average person has been trained to think of napping as being a bad thing, and we avoid it. And so, again, I think napping is wonderful. It's one of my greatest tools. Now, Specifically, I nap 14 minutes when I nap, you know, and I've gotten really good at it. So I just shut off like a light, and I wake up refreshed every time. And so I think napping is a wonderful tool to put in your tool belt, but you got to do it properly. Again, if I sat there and just napped the way I used to, I wake up groggy and feeling like shit. And so no wonder I didn't want to do it. So, again, you gotta. Most things that people think are just. They're good or bad at are really skills that you can get better at. And napping and sleeping are one of them.

Mackerel says when you go. When you get to nap, what if you need hours to feel refreshed? Oh, I got you. Okay. Yeah. Well, okay, fair enough. Now, when I first. When I went through my whole napping thing, I started doing that at a period of my life when I was absolutely depleted, exhausted.

You know, it's no coincidence. I've been the same. I've lost 50 pounds over 30 years ago. And I've been the same weight for 30 years. I had one blip 14 years ago. I put 25 pounds on. Now, coincidentally, when that weight gain happened is also right at the same time, I had moved into a new house that we completely redid. I'm running my business and I had my second kid who was a shitty sleeper. And so I got to a point where I finally, I was like, I started focusing on the naps where I was just exhausted all the time. And so when I first started taking naps, I didn't wake up feeling super refreshed like I do now because I was depleted. You know what I mean? Like, say my norm was here and I was down here. So I was in a hole, I was in a deficit. And so the naps were contributing to get me out of that. But when I woke up from the naps, I didn't feel wonderful. Okay? And so that's the hallmark sometimes when we're depleted, we can sleep a lot, we can take a nap and we still feel tired. So that's just what it is, you know, for now. So I think you should see it as such and reset your expectations. You know, folks, if you're depleted like here, yeah, nap's not going to bring you up to here. A night of eight hours of sleep is not going to bring you up to here. If you're depleted, you've probably been depleted for years and years and years, most likely. And so you're way down here and so you got to commit to it. Took me, when I look back on it, as exhausted as I was, I feel like it took me. And again, I wish I tracked this more specifically, but it was definitely over six months, six, seven, eight months to get myself feeling like I was back up to normal. It took a while. It felt like a very long time when it was happening. I wish there was a way to do it faster, but I don't know, I wouldn't trade it for anything because now I feel amazing. Now I am up here and I think I've raised even higher. I'm more energized than I've been in a long time since I was a youngin, you know. So again, sometimes we. That's just the trick too, of our mind, you know, we do something good and now all of a sudden our brain's expecting these instant results. So we always got to manage that a bit, you know.

So, yeah, again, when you get to nap, what if you need hours to feel refreshed? Okay, we'll take hours. Well, I don't have hours, Jim. Okay, then take the minutes you get. Nap. Then take any little bit you can get. Make it a focus. I made sleeping a focus for me. I worked on going to bed earlier. I practiced on napping. I slept later when I could. I took opportunities like schedule wise. I did. I really focused on it directly, and I did everything I could to enhance my amount of sleep and my quality of sleep. So again, by the way, you know, and program yourself. Then we go through all this in detail because it's a fundamental part of your lifestyle. What's the first thing there? If you can read it, it says, sleep. Sleep. Sleep's the number one lifestyle skill that you got to develop. It's what everything else runs on. So.

Curveball says my job needs to give me a longer lunch break so I can finish the entire live. It's awesome info. Yeah, thanks, Curveball. But remember, anyone, you can listen to this later, too. This is a podcast, and I put it up immediately after it's over. So if you go to any podcast platform and search program yourself, then it'll pop right up and you can listen to it whenever you want. Start wherever you left off and. And go about it because, yeah, it is awesome info.

What's up, Christy? Christy says what you eat matters when it comes to food noise. The less ultra processed foods I eat, the less food noise I have. I. I know that. See, that's exactly. Thank you for saying that, Christy, because this is the thing that gets me out of my mind livid. This is the reality I have to live in. This is the thing I have to consciously, constantly. This is my life where I have to constantly calm myself down. I'm doing it right now, reading a book, Diet Drugs and Dopamine, by a guy I respect tremendously. And I read it, and it's just.

He's talking about food noise, and he's talking about it just physically. He's talking about. As if it's only a hormonal thing. Now. He's. He's even. He's even doing better than most of them do. He is talking a little bit about environment, but it's like, it makes me want to crush this can in my hand. I get so mad because it's like, here's this relative genius. I mean, he's a doctor. He was the head of the fda. I mean, brilliant person, science, scientific, right? And he's like, oh, well, now we're finding out the environment actually affect. It's like, no, no. How. How does little Old me know that for 30 years because I studied hypnosis, goofy hypnosis. But I know this already and been known it for 30 years. It's very frustrating for me in my life that things are so obvious to me now.

Are starting to be talked about. Okay, I'm just gonna bring it back down, Jim. Back to the food noise, because we're hearing food noise, right? Food noise is the. Is the phrase of 2024, 2025. You have food noise stuffed in your ears 24 hours a day. Why? Because that's how they're selling you the pills. Food noise. Food noise. Food noise. Food noise. Well, what the fuck's food noise? Because. Yeah, Christy, you just hit the nail on the biggest head right there. I could talk about food noise in infinitesimal detail, granular nature. I'm not going to do that because Chrissy comes in here and says, ultra processed food, okay? That's like 70% of food noise right there. How much have you heard in your life? With all the marketing, every time you've heard food noise, how much have you heard that linked up with ultra processed food? You see what I mean? They're not trying to sell you a real solution. They're trying to sell you a pill. That's what bothers me about the GLP1s, is that it's not dealing with the source problem.

It feels like it's dealing with the source problem because you just feel full. So you can. Oh, the food noise is gone. So I'm fine now. Okay, fine. But you're on this medicine for the rest of your life, too. I'm not knocking. I'm out of medicine for the rest of my life. So again, I. I'd say that because I'm not judging being out of medicine for the rest of your life. I'm just saying that they talk about food noise over here, but they only say the word food noise. Let you kind of. What does that mean? Oh, I can take a pill to get rid of the food noise. That's the whole conversation. That's the whole conversation about food noises. Food noise pill. Food noise injection. Food noise injection. Food noise injection. Can we just talk? Can we just have fucking five more minutes? About what? What is food noise exactly? Why. Why is there so much food noise all of a sudden? Is no one interested in that now? People are interested in that. But the powers that be, the diet industry, the food industry, which, by the way, are the same thing. You've got to understand this. This is why you're so confused. This is why you were so lost in the sauce with your weight because you have been taught how to lose weight your entire life by Nestle Quick McDonald's. They don't want you to lose weight. Yeah, I know you, Jim. You're crazy. Now you lost me. No. Weight Watchers was owned by Heinz. Jenny Craig was owned by Nestle. Atkins Food Products is owned by the same company on Cinnabon and Atkins. Monty Anne's Pretzels. Slim Fast is owned by the same company owns Ben and Jerry's ice cream. These companies do not want you to lose weight. They do not want you to look at the food you're eating and say, huh, I. A lot of this is actually ultra processed. I wonder if all the ultra processed food has anything to do with the food noise.

Does it? And then other people say, well, yeah, Jim, we already know that. But I can't stop eating it because I'm addicted to it. There's so much food noise for the ultra processed, I can't stop eating it. So I'm going to pickle. That's fair. That's a fair conversation to have. But let's at least every time we say food noise, always followed up by saying, because it's all the ultra processed food. Because I dare you. I dare you. Any of you out there, tell me who's got a lot of food noise? Who eats a lot of whole natural foods?

Do you? To eat lots of whole natural foods, Is your head full of noise for food? Your head full of noise for bananas and apples and greens and carrots and celery? It's a different quality.

Anyways.

Christy says the solutions within us and our choices. Yeah, agreed. Agreed, Christy. That's what I mean. You know what I mean? So again, I'm not. I know some people, you know, I mean like there's a spectrum of people, so some people are just have more addictive natures and qualities and different experience and different genetics and they can study, program yourself then all day and night for the rest of their lives and they'll never get a handle on the food noise. That's the truth of the matter. Okay, for those people, GLP1 is, is a lifesaver for you. I'm not against GLP1s. What I'm against though is this idea that the only way to deal with food noise is a GLP one that grinds my gears. I got a gear right in my hand kinda. This is getting ground.

And I'll say, I'll just say this real quick, but I'll say, listen, because GLP1 doesn't work for everyone. Just. Just so we know, 20 people out of the gate just don't. It just doesn't work for them. And.

Program yourself doesn't work for everyone. Nothing works for everyone. That's just not reality. But I'll take my. I'll take the program yourself then success stories and put them against the GLP1 success stories any day of the week. Of course, the program yourself then success stories blow the GLP ones out of the water because not only did you lose the weight, but you know that you can do it forever. You now have a way to think, live and eat like a thin, healthy person that's directly customized to you. You know how to run your brain. You know how to turn yourself into the person you want to be. You know how to develop yourself personally. You know how to grow and improve each and every day. You know how to enjoy food genuinely, you can enjoy food. You can go on a special occasion and actually enjoy food. That's what I always say. The GLP1s. That's my big question. I know no one gives a that they don't enjoy food when they're losing weight because the losing weight's so exciting. They don't give a. But I'm curious to see where someone who's on a GLP one for a year, two, three years, because the weight loss stops after 16 months. Let it be known, a lot of people don't know this. GLP1s. You get 16 months of weight loss and that's that. Then you have to take the drug forever to maintain whatever you lost. So my question is, where do you get when you've gotten to your weight if you have. Now, again, if you're obese and you take a GLP1, there's a good chance you're going to end the 16 months still being obese. And that's that for you not losing any more weight. And you have to continue taking it to maintain what you lost and remain at your obese weight. That's a fact of this. Okay, but let's just take someone that got to their goal weight. Okay? You got all the way to your goal weight. You don't have any food noise. Well, let's think about what does not having food noise means anyways, by the way, you know what not having food noise means? It means you all know what it feels like, you know, after you've eaten a ton of food and you just. You're so full, you don't feel hungry at all. That's what it feels like you feel full. When you feel full, you don't think about food, you don't care about food, you don't give a. But you know what else doesn't happen when you're full? You don't enjoy food. Right? Go eat a bunch of food and then someone be like, oh, you want your favorite food? Not right now. Okay, so my question is, what happens when you're at your goal weight and you've been at your goal weight for six months or a year, and here comes your birthday and you'd like to go celebrate it by going to a nice restaurant and having a delicious cake?

What are you going to do?

Because, listen, there's a thing called hedonic adaptation. I know. I know what you're thinking. I won't give a shit, Jim. I'll be at my goal weight. I'm going to be skipping through life. I'm not going to give a shit about anything. I'm at my goal weight. People think this. People think being at your goal weight just makes everything else. Nothing could affect me. I'll be at my goal weight. But if that was the case, how do you explain how 95% of dieters that lose weight put the weight back on? If being at your goal weight is the most amazing thing that ever happened, how come dieters put the weight back on? Why did you put the weight back on? There's a great chance that you put the weight back on after you've lost it. So if being at your goal weight is so amazing, why'd you put the weight back on? And I would suggest it's because you weren't as excited. Most people trade the excitement and pleasure of the food for the excitement and pleasure of the scale going down. The scale going down. Because as long as the scale is going down and before you reach your goal weight, we can look forward towards goal weight as if it's going to be this amazing. Everything's gonna be amazing. It's my goal. Everything's gonna be better. My relationship's gonna be better, my work's gonna be better, I'm gonna be happier, I'll be healthier than. Everything's going to be great. Then we get to our goal weight, and it's great in a lot of ways, but it's not perfect. You still got relationship issues and new ones as well. You still got work issues, you still got personal issues. You still got going on. And now you don't have the weight loss to look forward to, and you don't have the food to look Forward to. That's what I'm curious to see. Because in program yourself, then one of the main things we work on, you can see it right here.

Is emotions. How do you deal with your emotions? How do you feel the emotions you want to feel in your life more? And how do you deal with the shitty emotions you feel in your life that you don't want to feel without food? And you have no idea. You have no idea. Because we've all grown up in a culture that just has conditioned us since we were born.

That if you're excited and celebrating, eat food. If you're feeling down, eat food. And so most of us use food as our main emotional management strategy. And until you learn how to deal with your emotions genuinely, I don't know how you're going to master your weight. And I don't know. GLP1. I know we're still in the honeymoon phase of GLP1s and I'm curious to see what happens to the person who, when they normalize to being at their goal weight, starts to interface with the reality of never being able to enjoy a meal the way they used to. I'm. I am very curious to see how that plays out for people.

You know, people look at me sometimes. Oh, Jim, I could never do what you did. I enjoy food too much. I say, oh, contraire, Moufreyre, I enjoy food as much as anyone, if not more than you, because when I eat the food, I don't have a shred of guilt about it. So I just purely enjoy it. But I don't think I would sign up for the reality where from now on your enjoyment of food is always muted from being able to be an 8, 9, 10 down to a consistent 3, 4.

Because that's what happens. The food noise goes down and so does your enjoyment and pleasure of food. They're in it. They're related. Right? They're two sides of the coin. So what are you going to do on your special occasions when you can't celebrate with food?

I don't know. I. I don't know. Something I don't hear a lot of talk about. And we couldn't have a talk about it really until. Until you know what I mean. We get to this point where a majority of people get to that point and I will be paying attention.

Keeper and Turner says fasting for women.

Fasting is a bunch of for most of you. So just so you know, fasting is not the ultimate solution. Fasting is one tactic. And if you think one tactic is going to get you to live at your goal weight for the rest of your life. I think you're wrong. It's like saying, I'm gonna be a carpenter, but I'm just gonna really master the hammer. That's the only tool I'm gonna learn, you know, So. I know. I'm so triggered. I. I am triggered today. I will tell you why. Well, food noise is always going to get me triggered. That. That's a. That's a given. But the other thing that's really got me triggered lately is the protein. And I almost was going to do a whole thing on today about protein, but I. I am really hitting my wit's end with the protein. And you know why? Because I was. I had the TV on last night for something. I don't watch commercial tv, but it was on yesterday for something. And God damn it, if a protein. What was it? What was it? It wasn't Starbucks. I talked about that. Yesterday was something else with protein in. Was a snack. It was a candy. It was candy with protein in it.

Jesus Christ. You. It's like how many times you can go through this, you know, it's called the halo effect. They highlight one thing in their ingredient list so that you don't pay attention to the rest of them, and we just cycle through it. Jesus Christ. Here we are with protein. I see. I see it on Facebook, too. I have an account. My program yourself then account on Facebook. Just because I avoid this, like, the play. Because it makes me so. It gets me so worked up. But all of a sudden, on Facebook, it's.

This idea like, protein fixes everything. If there's anything wrong in your life, just eat more protein. We are really at the peak of protein. Just brain rot. It is just, you know, listen, is protein important? Obviously, but you've got to stop falling into the trance, because that's what they do to you. It's always about one thing because, remember, it used to be about carbs. Now, I know you say, well, they're related, but it used to be about no carbs, you know, and that was about no fat. And it. It just always changes. It's always something new that they focus you on. Right now, it's protein, and it just makes me crazy. But anyways.

Jody likes when I get fired up. I don't even know if it's good for me. I shouldn't get this fired up. I've been calm lately. I. I'm as mad today as. I.

Don'T know why. Yeah, there it is, Jody. Yeah. Okay. Starbucks came out with protein Foam.

But I don't know. Again, I'm not against fasting. I think fasting has its place, but it's not like. I can almost guarantee you that 95% of you are not going to successfully live at your goal weight because you fast.

Well, why is that? Well, we go back to this. In my opinion, in my world, the goal weight pyramid rules all. And so when we talk about intermittent fasting, once again, no, don't worry about your mindset. Just do it. Lifestyle. Yeah. Just don't eat for six Eating. Don't worry about what you eat. Just don't eat for 16 hours. That's all I need. You know? You see what I'm saying? Weight Watchers. No, we don't eat. Mindset. Don't worry about that. I know that they. I know Weight Watchers is their mindset stuff. Lifestyle stuff. They do a little bit. So I'll give. You know what? I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna pick on Weight Watchers. I think Weight Watchers is one of the better ones out of all of them. Keto. Rather do keto. Mindset. Just do it. Lifestyle eating. Just stop eating carbs.

Right. Calorie restriction. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Just. Just eat this many calories. Tracking calories. No, don't worry about that. Just. Just count your points. Track your calories. You know, and you wonder why you can't stick with anything. Well, you think you just need to be told how to eat.

I could come up with a new fasting thing. I don't know. You know what I mean? I'll call it.

I'll call it double deuces fasting. 22 hours a day, you fast for double deuces. Double Deuces. You want to lose weight? Double Deuce it. What's that? Don't eat for 22 hours. That's it. New diet created. Now, did I have to talk about mindset? Nope. Did I need to talk about lifestyle? Nope. Did I even need to talk about what to eat? Nope. I just gave you the Double Deuces Intermittent fasting. The Double Deuces fasting plan. Double Deuces just don't eat for 22 hours. Right. And that's the epitome of a diet, is you're just told what to do. They didn't help you change your mindset. They didn't help you. Now, what do I say with mine? Said they didn't help you. My Double Deuces fasting plan. You know what the. All right, I just gotta. I gotta take a step back Because I see this. This is what. This is what drives me crazy about this reality is I see on Tick Tock. I see lives. I see the fasting people. I see them.

How quickly you can lose the weight doing the fasting.

If you think that the only thing between you and your goal weight is me saying, don't eat for 22 hours.

I don't even know where we go from here.

All right, let's get back to your questions. I'm going off the rails here.

Yes. Vicki says food industry and diet culture keeping a perpetual vicious cycle and hamster wheel and bridge to nowhere. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.

Yeah. Joan says the protein stuff must be linked to big money. And it is. It's big protein. There's a ton of money being made on protein. I'm waiting for big fiber. That. That's the one big thing I will get behind. You know, I can. I think if there's one big thing that's going to help you lose weight, like a one, one thing, it's fiber. But we'll wait till big fiber shows up. But there's not as much money.

I'll give you a hint if you want to know why. Because it's not big protein.

It is big protein.

But you have to understand, like, even big protein, because you can understand every. Like, once you understand kind of the basics of the game, you can understand the new games they put on you. And protein's the new one, okay? And it's going to be in everything. And they do this every couple years. It's something new, right? And they'll highlight it on their boxes. No carbs in this. It's Atkins friendly, it's keto friendly, it's gluten free, it's low fat, it's low sugar.

We have not gotten to high fiber yet, okay? But basically what happens is what will be promoted are processed foods, okay? Because processed foods is where all the money is made. That's where all the profits are.

So fiber won't be promoted big until, well, you know, again, you can say you can strip out fiber and sell it as some sort of powder or product or whatever and buy it, okay? But fiber is too close to the real conversation. That the main problem is not the macros as much as it is the fundamental distinction between actual food and food stuff. And they will do anything they can to keep you distracted from that. And the most effective way they've come up with so far. We just talked about this in the Thrive program when we did a lesson on it. The McGovern.

So year this was.

Let me see what year this was. McGovern.

Study macros. I'm thinking it was 1960s ish. Somewhere.

Oh, 1977. Interesting.

I thought it was a little earlier than that. The McGovern study. One of the big things that came out of the McGovern study is the real focus on macros. Before that, food was kind of food. You thought of food as a. As food as a whole thing, okay? And the McGovern committee came, and all of a sudden we stopped thinking about food primarily as food as a unit, and we started breaking it up into macros, right? Fat, protein, carb fiber, if you want to stick it in there. And all of a sudden what that does is it allows you to be tricked. And you're seeing it now, and you're seeing it with the protein thing. Again, I have nothing against. Protein is important, obviously. But what they're doing is they're getting you obsessed and focused on protein, and that distracts you from looking at your food and using the. The distinction, is it real food or is it food stuff? And they're just going to keep on doing this. It'll just keep cycling through is my guess. You know, we already went through carbs, folks. On carbs. Who gives a. What the. If it's food or food stuff, who cares how many carbs are in it? Is it food or food stuff? Who gives a. How much protein's in it? Is it food or food stuff? I don't give a shit how much sugar's in it, you know, and so we're constantly being conditioned to look at those categories instead of the most important category that would have the biggest impact on your health and your weight and your happiness is food versus food stuff. And they do not want you to look at it that way. That's why you're going to see every single type of diet you can ever imagine that doesn't involve just natural whole foods versus food stuff, because the money's made in the food stuff. The money is not made in whole natural foods, because there's a bunch of reasons, but the biggest reason is that it fills you up. Real food nourishes you, satisfies you. Processed food is engineered to not. So, A, the profits are way higher with processed food, and B, a big reason for that is because people consume way more of it. And so you're never in diet culture going to get that distinction popped in your face because diet culture is owned by the big food companies. Diet culture does not want you to live as a thin, healthy person. For the rest of your life. And so instead, if you're going to keep following diet culture, you've got a rest of your life of going from one thing to the next thing to the next thing to the next thing, seemingly. But when you look down, you're going to realize you're in the exact same place you were when you started, which is probably where you are now. You probably know as much about how to control your weight now as you did before you started your first diet, and you never move forward in a path of understanding.

So.

Glenna says, stop stressing yourself out. I just changed my lifestyle and lost £81.

That's a good one. I like that.

You.

Great. I say to Glenda, I say, nice job, congratulations. But on the flip side of that, to everyone else, I want you to please understand that when people. When you hear someone who's lost weight, we want to applaud them. Great job. Right? It's a big challenge. Anyone that successfully loses weight, no matter what they do, I don't give a shit if you did diets, took pills, got surgery. Anyone that loses a substantial amount of weight, I think that's quite an accomplishment, no matter what, because it takes a lot of effort and energy, no matter how you dice it up, okay? Now, that being said, the word you gotta look out for is the word just. You've got to hear the word just. It's got to hit you in the head like a hammer, because I promise you, I promise you with all my heart, Glenda did not just change her lifestyle and lose 81 pounds. And when she phrases it that way, it makes all of you feel like frustration or confusion or despair.

Because you're like, well, I try. I'll try my lifestyle.

I promise you. Glenda didn't just change her lifestyle. She did more than that, I promise you. And if you're still here, Glenda, tell me that's not true. No one just changes their lifestyle, okay? Because you can't change your lifestyle just spontaneously without changing your mindset. So I guarantee for Glenda. Now, I don't know Glenda. I've never met Glenda before. I've never seen Glenda comment before. But I know when I hear I just changed my lifestyle. No, you didn't. Now, how do I know this? Because my entire career, program yourself then, is built on people that have successfully lost weight and kept it off. And I study them, and what I found is that when I've studied them, they don't really even know what the hell they did. A lot of Times we do stuff without really understanding it. I mean, could you explain to me how you walk across the room other than I put one foot in front of the other? Was that mean? You know, can you explain to me how you write words? Can you explain to me where the words come? You don't have no idea. So a lot of times, once we've gotten good at something, we almost lose awareness of how we started it. But I guarantee that Glenda.

Her lifestyle change was triggered by something that changed her mindset. Now, I don't know what it is. I'd be curious to know. So if Glenn is still here, tell me what triggered that lifestyle change? Glenda.

So don't listen to the word. Just. Everything's more complicated than what people that have successfully lost weight make it sound like I just cut carbs.

It's not that easy. There's just more going on, you know, so once you understand this stuff, it makes you, you know, it gives you more granular understanding of how to control your weight. And most people have no granular understanding how to control their weight.

John says. And people take fiber supplements when they could eat, just eat fruits and vegetables. Agreed. Agreed. And on top of that, not only. Again, everything's on a spectrum to me. So if you start taking a fiber supplement, great. I think you're going to benefit from that. And then that'll probably, if you keep sticking with that, that'll nudge you probably in the direction of consuming more fruits and fiber. But understand that the fruit and fiber or the fruit and vegetables are superior to a fiber supplement because not only are you getting the fiber in the fruits and vegetables, but you're also getting the micronutrients. You're also eating these foods that are in their natural food matrix and you're getting benefits that we haven't even understood yet. So, again.

Keep that in mind.

Sherry says the serial industry is really coming on strong. Oh, my God. Jesus. Shereen, is this. Shereen, I know it's you, Shereen. I just caught myself right. You're not. You're not. Sherry. You too. You both comment in the same place and you have similar things. The cereal industry is really coming on strong now. Bragging about how few ingredients it has. Doesn't talk about being processed, though. Yes. The big cereal companies are panicking. Yeah. I love that you help us be more suspicious of those big companies. Yeah. And I'm happy to do it because they're bullshitters. Honestly. The food companies are the cigarette companies. Oh, there you go, Jimmy, being dramatic. No, literally, literally nabisco and RJR Reynolds are merged together. They're the same company. The parent company. The parent company of Kraft and General Foods is Philip Morris. So. Yes. Oh, it is Sherry. Okay. Sherry. Yes, I got it now. I don't know if I do. I thought I just added now. And I thought you were Shereen. So funny. Maybe I got it. So, yeah, now, again, cereal, I. I keep a far distance from cereal. I don't give a shit if it's one ingredient. I don't want to eat cereal. Cereal, to me. And I used to love cereal. I eat cereal half my life. So no one likes cereal as much as I did. I love cereal, but again, I'm not interested in cereal because there's just better ways to start my day. I believe there are healthier cereals, obviously. So if you eat cereal, that's your journey probably is to kind of health them up. Health them up. Health them up. And then maybe you let them go.

But anyways, Christy loves the passion. Well, good. Yes. Sweet quest. It doesn't only cut out food noise, it cuts the ability to be thirsty. And timers have to be set to drink. Oh, that's interesting. I did not know that. I didn't know that. That's very interesting. That GLP1s impact your thirst. I've never heard that. So you need to set a timer, huh? Yeah.

Listen, again, I'm not judging it, but what I'm saying is.

You know what? We're hearing the story right now. Every framing is so important in life. And the framing with GLP ones is that, well, you could be obese for the rest of your life, or you could be on GLP1 and be healthier. Okay, that's one frame. But if we zoom out a little bit, there's also approaching this differently. Now, again, they'll say, yeah, but diets don't work, Jim. Yeah, I know that. That's what I'm here every day talking about.

Oh, the despicable Me kids. Right? I don't know why I never think of those as despicable Me kids. From my viewpoint, Sherry, they just. I don't know what the hell I think they are. You tell me it every time. And I know Despicable Me, I've watched all of them, but for some reason, they did. I don't see them as that. It's so funny. And only says 16 months. Yeah, 16 months of weight loss on the GLP ones. Then it stops and only says, I lost about £100 about 15 years ago and slowly gained all of it back now. I know, I'm sorry, Nelly. I just. That's everyone's journey. Because again, dieting is just a temporary mode for most people. You're not truly transforming yourself again and program yourself. Then we're not just changing the eating, you know what I mean? We're changing the mindset, lifestyle and eating so that you can think, live and eat like a thin, healthy person, you know, for the rest of your life. So again, stick around here and you'll learn some stuff that might help you out with that impala. Judy says thoughts on carnivore diet. I think Carnivore diet is the stupidest diet that's come down the pike and that's saying something. But I think the Carnivore diet's just the dumbest that, that we've seen. Again, it's just right there with all the protein hoopla and, you know, the protein.

What they call it reefer madness. It's protein madness right now. And I think it's just that the Carnivore diet is just one example of that.

But I again, please, before, before the person on here who's lost 30 pounds on carnivore over the last two months, please don't write that. I don't care. And I mean that genuinely. I don't give a. Because you're not going to be on the carnivore diet in two years, three years. Why do I know that? How do I know that? How can I say that? Because you're not a carnivore. I can pretty confidently say you're not a carnivore.

And not only you're not a carnivore, but again, I ask you the big question that I base a lot of my food decisions on. What society, what big population are you referencing to.

Validate your carnivore diet?

And I ask this question every day. I know I typically hear about the Inuit Eskimo population. I hear about the, I've heard they sell the mat psi in, in Africa. It's a tribe. I will hear those two referenced regularly when it comes to carnivore eating. And if those are the two things you're going to reference for me.

I am not impressed by those because they have awful, awful health numbers. So again, the carnivore diet, again, it just, to me, the carnivore diet just is a reference.

It's just a point of how unhealthy the standard American diet is. That the carnivore diet, if you go on it, you'll probably lose weight and have health markers improve for a little while.

But you know, what about this? This person's been on a carnivore diet for three years. I don't know. Great, big deal. There's always an outlier. There's always someone. But you're not going to be on the carnivore diet for three years. So who cares?

Don says Weight Watchers is okay other than selling you their garbage food. Yeah, exactly. But that, That's. That's what I mean, though. You know what I mean? And I. I agree, though. I completely agree. I think Weight Watchers is the best out of all of them because Weight Watchers just came from a better place. And I think there's something very interesting about that, too, that Weight Watchers was started by a housewife in New Jersey. And I think it just goes to show, I think about this all the time. I think I am. I think I bring so much to the weight loss game, and I think this. So much. I was thinking this today, so get ready. I'm about to brag on myself for a while. Here I'm reading this book by someone who's clearly way more.

Scientific than I am, way more distinguished and established and smarter than I am scientifically. I would never doubt that.

And at the same time, I see it as a problem because I. My biggest issue with weight loss in general is that it's always framed the same way. So I think a lot of times in life you need someone who's outside of the system. And I think I'm a hypnotist, I'm a coach, I'm a yoga instructor. And I think that has given me the ability to come at this from a completely different angle, which is why I think you see me with a goal weight pyramid. Where else you've seen a goal weight pyramid? When's the last time you heard someone articulate your goal as not losing weight, but to get to your goal weight and live at your goal weight for the rest of your life on your autopilot? When's the last time you've heard anything within a thousand miles of that goal articulated that way? You haven't. You haven't. You haven't seen a goalway pyramid ever. Oh, Jim, we all. Everyone talks about mindset and lifestyle. Okay, I'll. I'll grant you that. But what does that mean? What do you mean by mindset specifically? I know you need to change your mindset. What does that mean to you, though?

Write it out. Give me the. There, there. What? How do I go about Changing my mindset. What is my mindset? Define it for me.

You need to change your lifestyle. I don't need to go on a diet. I need to change my lifestyle. Needs to be a full, full, complete change. Great. Explain to me what a lifestyle is. What's a lifestyle? Break it down for me. Great. Now how do I actually go about changing that lifestyle to be that way?

Yeah. I'll wait all day long and I won't get any answers because I've studied this, I studied the queen of mindset, Carol Dweck. I didn't get any of these categories. Is this the end all, be all? I can't say that. But this was completely designed working with actual people and helping them lose weight based on people that were normal that actually lost weight and kept it off. So I've got one of the most original origination stories that exists in weight loss. This isn't just some shit I thought up. This started when I was 50 pounds heavier, lost in the sauce and, and I began speaking with people that had lost weight and kept it off through the lens of hypnosis, neuro, linguistic programming, psychology, personal development. And 30 years later you get this. 6,000 private weight loss sessions later you get this.

And what are you going to get outside of this? What do you typically get? You get.

Just count your, count your calories. Oh, don't eat, don't eat from 8 at night until 12 the next day.

Don't eat any carbs.

And what happens with the weight loss industry is they tell you something to do.

And then you go and try and do it. Do you ever systematically change your mindset, your lifestyle, and come up with an eating plan designed for you? Have you ever, ever even heard that? Nevermind. Done. I know you haven't done it. I already know that. My question to you, has you ever even heard of that? You ever even thought about it?

And now you can say, well Jim, that doesn't matter, that's fine, you're entitled to that opinion. But once you see this, once you kind of see oh yeah, my mindset, oh yeah, my lifestyle, oh yeah, kneading plan that actually is customized and built for me. Like once you see that, you're gonna be on one of two roads. You're either gonna say that's a bunch of bullshit, stupid mindset, lifestyle, a customized eating plan. Give me a break. Just tell me what to do and I'll do it.

See you and be on your way. Okay, but if all of a sudden you hear this, you're like, ah, yeah, my mindset yeah, actually, my mindset's a big problem. You know why? A lot of times I'll get results and I sabotage what's going on there, what's happening. A lot of times I start getting results, I can't keep it up, what's going on there, and you have no answers and no way to figure it out. So hopefully this stuff starts, you know, rolling around in your head because that, that's where the solutions come. In my opinion.

It's the reason why their hair falls out. Is that Carnivores or is that a. There it is. The Carnivore caregiver. Right? Been carnivore since 2022. It's changed my life for the better. I'm happy for you. Okay? And this goes back to my golden rule of program yourself then, is that there's no right or wrong. There's only what works for you. Okay? So for Carnivore Caregiver, I'm going to say great job. Hear what I'm saying. And fudgeing, ignore it. Okay? You have found something that works great for you and I applaud that. I think that's super. But for the vast majority of people, Carnivore is not going to work well. Okay? So clearly Carnivore Caregiver has really bought into this. I don't know what they do, but literally, it's so much become a part of their identity. They literally, their name is literally Carnivore in it. You know, so there's a lot of buy in here. And I would love, and I wish I could do this somehow, but I would love to hear from Carnivore caregiver in five years, 10 years. And I'm not saying that it hasn't changed your life for better. This is the mistake. This is how Carnivore and all this stupid shit gets. Gets out there is because people start so unhealthy that doing anything that's going to restrict calories is going to help them lose weight. And losing weight is almost always correlated with better health numbers. So you know what I mean? Like, you get three years into it and you might be feeling a lot better than you used to feel.

The big question is, how are you going to feel five years from now, 10 years from now, just eating meat? You don't know. You have no clue. That's the truth of it. You think you're going to feel great. I hope you do.

Chances are you won't, though. Just letting you know, because it's not normal to just eat meat You're a human being. Look at your digestive tract, look at your teeth, look at your fingers. You don't have claws. You don't have meat tearing teeth. Your intestines are way long. You have the intestines of a omnivore, slash vegetarian. And so we will see as you get older, we will see how your joints respond.

We will see how your body and your blood work responds. And you might be an outlier who does amazing with it. You might, you might be an Inuit Eskimo who has a genetic mutation that causes them to not go into ketosis.

So, you know, again, we have to understand that what you choose to do is so personalized.

That maybe carnivore some crazy way is amazing for you and is the peak of health for you. But statistically, most likely what's happening is carnivore is just better than what you were doing. And right now, you know, get them happy for you. And I want it to continue being great for you, but statistically, there's a great chance that it's not going to be great for you. And I dare you, because I will be here in five years, and I will be here in five years eating the exact same diet I've been eating because I've been a vegetarian pescatarian for 25 years. Okay? And so I will still be here talking about the diet that I consume now in the same way. And I'll tweak it and I'll optimize it. But the chances of you still being a carnivore are much less. I'm trying to pick a fight with you. I'm just speaking to everyone else that this really gets to the heart of Program Yourself Then. Program Yourself then is built to create a way of eating for the rest of your life that really resonates and fits with you. And if carnivore does that for you now, I think that's great. Okay? And I wish you all the best with it. But statistically, carnivore caregiver is really running an experiment on themselves because there is no data point. There's no big population of people that have only eaten meat for decades. Well, there are a couple and they don't really have very good health numbers, so that's scary to me. I've got the specifics for you. I just literally did a training on this.

And.

You just get this real quick because we get this a lot with.

Come on.

I thought it was right there. I thought I was going to find it quick. I will tell you, I Have a hard time finding my book stuff. I know it was here. There it is. Yeah. Inuit in the Maasai. Maasai out in Africa. That's again, that was a big paleo. People always used to point to those. And I'm sure the carnivore point to them too because again, and you let me know. Carnivore caregiver. So carnivore caregiver. Thank you. Actually, if you're still here, I bet as a, as a three year carnivore, you probably have a bunch of societies actually that have thrived off of eating just meat or primarily just meat. So if you could let me know those, I'd appreciate that because usually it's the Inuit and Maasai, a tribe out in Africa and they have some of the worst health and life expectancy rates of any populations. So I'm sure you have other populations that you're referencing as well.

And again, don't take this personally. This is just a debate. We're just talking things out. But I think it's important for the majority of people to hear this because we don't really hear a lot of pushback regularly. What we get is we get avalanches and tidal waves of information coming at us and it overwhelms us. And protein and carnivore are one of those examples, you know, but anyways.

Do you even know what carnivore is?

What is it? If I had anything besides carnivore food, I get severe bloating. Real food, meat, cheese, eggs and butter. I'll be here in 10. I can eat this way forever.

Anyone can try it and if they do, they'll become carnivore people don't know the truth. Yep, meat, cheese, eggs and butter, that's all I will ever need or want.

Let you know what, Let me know. No. Yeah, Carnival gear. I'm glad you're still here. Yeah. What society or what big population of people? Okay, or society. And I'll give you now or forever. Okay, so. So we don't have to be now, it could be in the past. But tell me the people you reference, the big group of people you reference that primarily eat meat, cheese, eggs and butter exclusively.

That.

Support or inspire you to replicate their diet. That's what I would love to know.

Yeah. Carnivore giver says, and what is your diet? Hypnotized. But yes, please, carnivore you. You seem, you're obviously invested in this and I appreciate that and I'm glad it's working for you by the way, okay? I hope you're on it for another hundred years and just thriving. Please understand that, okay? What I'm saying is the vast majority of people won't be, including you.

Okay? Yeah, I just tried it. It made me feel so good that I will never eat any other way. And I respect that. I respect that. And I think I like the piece where you follow what makes you feel good. So I like that. But that's anecdotal, okay? And we got to be careful with anecdotal things. That's why I don't, I'm not out here, you know, again, I'm definitely pro whole natural foods. I think that's a pretty safe, benign take on things, you know what I mean? But you're never going to hear me. I'm not out here advocating vegetarianism, you know, or pescatarianism even. That's what I am. I, I'm open to people eating meat and all the rest of it. I think that's fine. But I think it's important that we recognize anecdotal experiences. So, so your, your experience has been great. I think that's great. But my question to you is, are you comfortable making a pretty, a pretty outlier decision.

Based on just your experience or are you referencing some big population of people, some civilization that eats primarily that way where you want to replicate? Well, I got the blue zones, right? So I will say I've got the blue zones.

A population study. They look for the populations that the highest number of people reaching 100 years old. And they went and studied what do they eat, what do they do? Without question, they studied five places around the world. All five of them had similar diets. High carb, high carb diets, low protein. Okay. And that way of eating was pretty much the global situation. So not only is it those five countries, but it's basically the way most populations ate throughout history. And so my question to you, carnivore, is, okay, just my experience. So yes, and that's fine, you know, that, that would, that would terrify me. But I like to have data points behind my decisions, you know, so again, I would love to know where you came from with it. I would love to know your story. Again, I'm not. Please understand, this is not an attack. I'm really looking at the bigger picture, beyond just your experience to other people's experience. I've talked to lots of carnivore people, you know, so this isn't my first go around with carnivore or keto or paleo. Or Atkins or whatever it's called, you know, this week. But again, this idea of stuffing your body with saturated fats and meat and protein and very little fiber, very little vegetables and fruits, is an outlier way of living.

And again, my. My point comes back to that. You're. You're making this based on your own experience, which I think is great. But I would want to know, what do you mean came from. I just tried it and loved it in the way it makes me feel. Yeah. Well, that's great. That's great. So I'm happy for you. All right. So. All right, I'm gonna wrap it up here. I gotta get out of here. So I hope everyone, if you're not in my world, make sure you click the link in my bio. Go get the free hypnosis session that I give you. It's called the New Thin Me, and it's going to help you to get motivated. It's a kickstart session, and it'll help you clarify what your goal is, help you connect to it. And just by listening to it, you may find you start making better food decisions naturally and automatically. And that's the goal of it. It's completely free. And when you sign up, I also have a training I give you as well, and a bunch of other free things that I've got for you. So go check those out. I'm here every Monday through Friday, so if you like this and you have any questions, please pop in here and ask them again. Any questions you have. I love to help you out in any way I possibly can. And if you like this live, but you can't make the live, and you like listening to it, it's also a podcast. It's called Program Yourself Then. And you can search at any podcast platform and listen to it, and then you can listen anytime you want. So, all right, everyone, thank you so much. Have a super day, and we'll talk soon. Bye.