Program Yourself Thin Live 6-11-26

Jim Katsoulis explains how to respond to weight-related slip-ups by learning from them instead of ignoring or punishing yourself. He describes the Goal-Weight Pyramid, a system integrating mindset, lifestyle, and eating, and argues that automating healthy behaviors through subconscious programming works better than willpower alone.
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Hey everyone, welcome to today's Program Yourself Thin podcast. Today we're talking about the 3 options you have after you slip up. So after you make a mistake with your reading, you choose the wrong thing, you eat too much, you whatever, you swear you weren't going to do it, you did it. Um, whatever form that slip-up mistake takes, you always have 3 options after it, and which one you choose is really going to have a huge impact on what your ultimate, ultimate weight's going to be. So the first option is probably one of the most common ones, and it is to ignore it. So we screw up and then we just put it out of our minds because we think, well, if I put it out of my mind, I'll just never do it again, right? We screw up and we say, that's it, I'm never going to do that again. Never going to eat those cookies again. I'm never going to, you know, eat all that ice cream again. I'm never going to do it again. And that is a way that we put it out of our mind. And by putting it out of our mind, we kind of reduce the pain because we don't have to think about it. Right. That's probably one of the most common ones. Well, the problem with that, though, is that if you put it out of your mind, you didn't learn anything from it. You didn't create any new distinctions. You didn't improve your strategies or your mindset from it. You just put it out of your mind, which increases the chances that you're just going to repeat that mistake again. Because how many times have you made a mistake, said, I'm never going to do that again, and then you did it again exactly like that? And most likely you have things like that that you've done over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. So ignoring it does not work. It's not a great strategy because we never learn from it. The next response people typically make when they make a mistake is they beat themselves up. So now it's the opposite of ignoring it. Now they're fixating on it and they're fixating on it in order to say, what a bad person you are. I can't believe you did this. You said you weren't going to do it and then you did it again. No wonder you're failing. No wonder you're overweight. No wonder you're a loser. You don't deserve it. We say awful things to ourselves and we use the mistake as basically the club we beat ourselves over the head with. Okay. So that doesn't help us either because your subconscious mind doesn't understand negatives. So if I ask you to not think about a banana, what are you thinking about? A banana. So when you keep fixating on the mistake you made, what do you think you're focusing on? What do you think you're rewiring and reinforcing in your nervous system? The mistake. And for all of you that beat yourself up, you already know this. If you look at the evidence, you probably beat yourself up about a consistent pattern that you have. So you do it, you beat yourself up, you do it, you beat yourself up, and you're in this loop. So again, the problem with beating ourselves up is that our subconscious mind doesn't understand negatives. So even though we're saying, I don't want to eat a whole pint of ice cream anymore, You're imagining yourself eating a pint of ice cream and it reinforces the behavior. So this doesn't work well either. The third option is, I think, the most enlightened one that's going to bring you in a new direction. It's probably one you have never, ever tried, which is kind of crazy when you think about it, considering how much time you've spent thinking about your weight and trying to change it. And this third response after you slip up is that you learn from it. You learn from your mistake. What's that look like? It looks like this. Oh my God, I just ate a pint of ice cream. I don't want to do that. I didn't want to eat a pint of ice cream. What, what happened? What's going on here? How'd this happen? And I'm not just saying it rhetorically, I'm really saying, what, how'd this happen? I don't— when I woke up this morning, I didn't want to eat a pint of ice cream. What happened between then and 9 o'clock at night that changed? And now I start to look at it. I said, what's going on? How hungry was I? Oh, I was really hungry because I tried not to eat all day and I was really hungry all night. Okay. Oh, interesting. Um, I was really emotional. I had a bad day at work. My boss yelled at me and I got in a fight with my partner and I was really emotionally in an upset mood. Hmm. Okay. Um, I had a pint of ice cream in the freezer already because I usually go to the store and get one, so it's here. Okay, so all of these things are going on And what that allows you to do is understand the reasons that led to you eating the ice cream. Now, could you just use willpower? All those things can happen. Use willpower and just say no. Sure. That, that's absolutely an option, but it's an option that doesn't usually last very long. So in Program Yourself Thin, we look to deal with upstream issues. So instead of just hoping that in the moment we can say no to the ice cream, We want to set ourselves up for success earlier. And so, as you start to learn from your mistakes, you start to notice which things kind of trigger you to make the wrong decisions and which things trigger you to make the right decision. So that now you can say, hmm, okay, if I could go back in time knowing what I know now, what could I have done differently? Well, maybe I would have eaten more solid nourishing foods throughout the day. So I felt more balanced and grounded when 8 o'clock came. Maybe when I realized I was emotionally upset from the day I had, I would have taken a little bit of time, taken a hot shower, done some relaxation, listened to a meditation or hypnosis sessions to calm down. This is what we start to do when we learn from the mistakes that we make. And each time you make a mistake, it becomes another opportunity to learn something and to evolve your thinking and improve your strategies. And if you consistently look at the challenged behaviors you have in your life, because there's not a million of them, there's the nighttime snacking, there's the overeating at dinner, there's the grazing in the afternoon, there's the eating too much at lunch. These things may be true, but it's only a set number of things. Most of the time you're not constantly eating from morning till night. The— your kind of behaviors that are bringing the most calories in are probably in certain spots, certain behaviors. And so we go into those behaviors deeply. We dive into them rather than superficially saying, I'm just going to use willpower to stop all these things. We dive into it and seek to understand it and we seek to prevent it. And once you've walked this path of prevention, you realize it's way easier to do it this way. Right? So from now on, when you make mistakes, stop beating yourself, stop ignoring it. And instead seek to learn from it. Seek to learn from it. So the next time a situation like that comes up, you have a better strategy, a better approach for how to deal with it. This is the secret. And as you start to do this, you're going to start to find that you stack together, um, a healthier mindset and better strategies to get the results you want. This is the path of success. And if you want support walking this path, click link in my bio. Or go to programyourselfthin.com and go get the free hypnosis session I made for you. It's called The New Thin Me, and it is designed to kickstart your weight loss, relax you, and point you in a direction that feels a lot better than dieting. And not only does it feel better, but it's also a lot more effective. So go check out that free hypnosis session and go get that. If you are on TikTok, you can click the picture of me and that'll bring in my bio and you'll see the link there.. And if you're over in Facebook or YouTube land, I will put the link in the chat, so go check that out. Um, so I'm gonna say, yeah, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask them. I'm here every Monday through Friday to, uh, talk about weight and whatever you're dealing with. I'm happy to, uh, give you some perspective on it. Maybe I can give you some insight that might help move you forward. I know a lot of people struggle with their weight And it is my belief that a lot of that struggle is directly because you're approaching your weight loss as a dieter. And I think if you're like most of us, your entire life you've been bombarded with diet marketing, diet mindset, diet philosophy, to the point that it's impossible not to think like a dieter at this point. You know, it's, it's just, it's impossible. You've been conditioned to think about it. And so my goal is to get on here and just show you another way to approach your weight And it starts by thinking about it differently, you know. So a lot of times the questions I get asked, it's less about giving you a prescriptive answer of what to do, and it's more about kind of reflecting on what's going on. How are you thinking about things? What are you expecting? What are you anticipating going into what we're thinking? Right. So, so more the mindset. Strategies matter, too. Don't get me wrong. But mindset is usually the crucial missing piece for most people when it comes to their weight management is they don't have a real holistic, robust strategy to make it happen. I see Crystal says stayed up too late, inevitably got hungry and ate. Yeah, there you go. Again, staying up late is absolutely— again, you can stay up late and not eat. I just want to make this clear. Dieting says you can do anything but just don't don't do the wrong thing, but you're a human being. And so your ability to do the right or wrong thing is influenced by other factors. So for example, if I wanted to be diabolical and get you to eat and I have control over you, I can do it simply by getting you to stay up really late. So you don't get a lot of sleep. You wake up tired. Uh, I would add some things in your life to stress you out because I know that triggers your cravings. I know when you're tired, you're hungrier. I know when you're tired, you have less ability to make the right choices. And so I could kind of sneakily nudge you towards overeating. And this is what I'm trying to say to you all, that there are factors beyond just the eating. And so in Program Yourself Thin— flip this around— uh, in Program Yourself Thin, we follow the goal weight pyramid, right? To give you an idea what I'm talking about here. And so the reason we use this— come on, I don't know why this doesn't focus quick anymore— um, is we don't just do eating again, right? Dieting is just telling you what to eat, right? But, but again, eating sits on top of your lifestyle and on top of your mindset. If you got the wrong mindset, it doesn't matter what your eating plan is. You're living the wrong lifestyle, doesn't matter what your eating plan is, you're not going to follow it. So we need to, I think, zoom out and have a more holistic, comprehensive approach to managing our weight that's bigger than just saying no to food. That is what a diet is. Dieting is, is the weight version of Just Say No. Remember Just Say No? Uh, what was her name? Nancy Reagan, right? That was her big thing. Just say no to drugs. Solved. What else do we need to solve, right? It's so stupid. You know, again, there's no Just Say No centers in 2026. It's a It's a simplistic, superficial strategy that wasn't up for— up to the task. And dieting ain't up to the task either, because it skips all of this stuff. It skips all of the most important parts of managing your weight. And by the way, it skips most of eating too, at least the way I approach it. I think of dieting as being about— I'm learning to use my finger. Dieting is about that much of the pyramid. That's me just telling you what to eat. Stop eating carbs. That, that's a diet. Count every point. That's, that's a, that's a diet. Just eat protein, as much protein as you can. That's, that's about that much of the pyramid. And so you're missing all of this stuff and you're wondering why you can't stick to a plan. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why real quick. Um, your mindset's broken and your lifestyle is setting up for failure. It ain't rocket science, you know, but the first step is you got to see it. And most people don't see that. They do not, because most dieters just blame everything on willpower. Everything is, is really just a willpower exercise. How long you can stay on it when you screw up is because of willpower. How long you stay on, it's willpower. It is— again, it's just, it's crazy. There's more to it than just willpower. Willpower matters, right? Or use willpower, but it's not enough. And it just takes the most simple, basic understanding of how your mind actually works. You have a conscious prefrontal cortex, a conscious mind, and you have a, um, subconscious mind. And the subconscious mind is the part of your brain that's running the show. And you have never organized your weight management around that part of your brain. You have made it all completely conscious. Your weight loss approach basically is micromanaging every decision you make and just making the right decision. And it sounds so simple on paper, but it doesn't really acknowledge the realities of being on the ground. You know, it's like I could sit here right now, sitting here in my chair and say, you know what, from tomorrow I'm going to run all day long. I'm just going to run. I'm going to start running in the morning. I'm going to run until the night and then I'll stop and go to sleep. It's so easy for me to say that sitting here. Okay. But the first, 10 minutes running, it started dawning on me, hey, wait a second, I'm getting tired. How am I going to keep going? But this is the dieting thing. This is the part you've got to stop, because I know you're trying not to think about it because you think if I don't think about how tired and overwhelmed I get, then what, it won't affect you? What do you think as a dieter? What do you think? You just think if you ignore the fact that every time you try and diet, you get overwhelmed eventually and you can't keep it up? You think if you ignore that you're just going to go further next time? You're not. And even if you go further by a week or two, who gives a shit? If you go further by a month or two, who gives a shit? If you always end up going back to your normal and your normal's overweight, then who gives a shit how long you can, you know, hold your breath, how long you can make yourself eat the right foods? And this is the curse of dieting, you know. Crystal says mindset and keep the mindset all day can slip back into a diabolical daily use, usual norm, eh? Um, it's hard to be consistent. Yeah, it's hard to be consistent for sure. Um, and mindset and keep the mindset all day, well, yeah, because you— but you're not, you're not thinking of mindset like I am. I can tell by the way you're using the language because keep the mindset all day, you're really using that as a— that really means willpower. You're thinking about willpower. A mindset is something that runs automatically. You all can think of it this way. You may not like this, but let's go. Let's just go with it right now. If you're overweight and have been for a while, your mindset— you have an overweight mindset, okay? Because when you're not dieting and focusing on food, when you're just living your life, doing what you do, eating the way you eat, living the way you live, you're overweight. So your mindset is what you naturally do. Okay, so whatever hand you use, that's like your mindset. Okay, so you have a mindset of how you brush your teeth. You have a certain hand you use. If all of a sudden you go home tonight and brush your teeth with your other hand, you're going to be using a different mindset. The other hand mindset, right? That's just another way to think about it. So when people say, oh, I got to maintain that diet mindset all day, no, that means you're going to try and fight against yourself all day. What I'm talking about is getting to a place where you can live your life and trust yourself to naturally make decisions that keep you thin and healthy, that keep you at your goal weight. That's the goal. The goal is not— I am not at my goal weight because I'm micromanaging every little decision I make, because I'm consciously using willpower to make the right choice constantly, all day and night long. That's not what I'm doing at all. It's the exact opposite of what I'm doing. I have trained my subconscious mind to live at this goal weight. I've trained it through my mindset and I've trained it through my strategies. And my habits so that I naturally do the things that keep me at my goal weight. I eat the way that I eat that keeps me at my goal weight, and I have focused on automating this. I want it to be natural. And this isn't a weird thing, folks, because you've all done this. You can all read and write now. It took a lot of work, and now you just do it automatically. Learning to brush your teeth at certain times took a lot of work, and now you just do it automatically. Learning to use a computer mouse the first time was frustrating and annoying, and now you do it automatically. So humans are built to learn to do things and then eventually do them automatically. It's called unconscious competence, and you do things unconsciously competent all the time. Riding a bike's a classic example. You can learn to ride a bike. You know how to do it. You learn it, and now it goes into some part of your mind and body where you have it forever. And you just do it naturally. I put a bike in front of you, you haven't ridden in 20 years, you get on it, you don't think about what you're going to do, you just do it. It's a totally different part of your brain. Um, so once you understand again how your brain operates weight management-wise, we'd use a totally different approach. We use willpower, but we use willpower to program in new behaviors, new thoughts. New programs that keep you thin and healthy. Because at the end of the day, you're going to reflect— your weight's going to reflect your subconscious programming. I've changed my programming. My programming used to make me overweight, and now my programming makes me at my goal weight. And it runs pretty much the same. My life's very similar both ways. Like, it looks a lot the same. The eating's a lot different. The lifestyle is different. Okay. But I'm not sitting here writing down every calorie I eat. I'm not doing drastic diet-y things. I'm just living my life. And I think that's really important to recognize too, because I think a lot of times people associate overwhelm to dieting because it is overwhelming. But they think of dieting as being this thing where they're going to consciously— all of a sudden you're going to consciously do something you normally do on autopilot. So again, the challenge of dieting isn't just that it's hard to not eat your favorite foods. It's also the fact that it's just hard to do anything new behaviorally. And again, you can prove this to yourself by going home tonight and brushing your teeth with the other hand. I dare you. I dare you just to brush your teeth with the other hand and you'll see what a struggle it is. Why? Because when you usually brush your teeth, you don't have to think about it. You just— your body does it. They say your teeth are brushed. Go do it with the other hand. You're gonna feel— you're gonna jab your, your gums. You're gonna feel like you're missing teeth. It's gonna feel weird. You have to think about every movement. You got to wonder if you're done. The cognitive load goes way up, and it's the cognitive load increase with dieting that's one of the main reasons people, um, get overwhelmed and quit. So if you have any chance of success, in my opinion, there needs to be some piece of the puzzle, the weight management puzzle, that is focused on automating, automating the behaviors that keep you at your goal weight. The eating, the lifestyle, the mindset. Now Crystal says, weird, because I just wrote my grocery list with my left hand and thought, this isn't actually that hard. Oh yeah, Crystal, it's not, it's not hard to do it for a second, but I write up— the next time you gotta write, sign your name, sign your name with it, write a whole paragraph, write it, write a page, you know what I mean? Again, yeah, anyone can do something for 2 seconds. And it's not that hard, right? Because you just did it. I dare you to use your phone with your other hand today. I dare you to use your computer mouse with the other hand. See, see if you think that's not hard. You know, this is what I mean. Dieting is not— I'll give you a different example, just slightly different. I think it's like, to me, it's the perfect example of dieting and the illogicalness that goes with it. If you ever want to get a sense of what dieting is like emotionally, hold your breath. I'm serious. Hold your breath. And what you will notice most likely is you'll hold your breath. And the first 10, 20 seconds, different time for each person. But the first part, you're going to be irrationally confident. Irrationally confident. You're full of oxygen. You're— I'm going to be holding my breath for a long time. And it's really interesting because the longer you hold your breath, It's very similar to that dieting overwhelm because at first it's easy. Anything's easy. I can write one, you know, a couple of things with my other hand and it's easy and fun. Okay. And the grocery list is different than sentences too because the spacing is different. You have to think about it as much. But, um, it's like when you, when you, when you hold your breath, it's funny when you do it because you start off irrationally confident And then reality starts intruding, and then it starts intruding quicker, and then it starts to quickly turn into a panic, and then you stop. And that's dieting in a nutshell, because you all start— think about it, dieting is so funny to me because at this point, folks, you've all been dieting for 20, 30, 40 years, right? You have probably tried to start on a Monday eating better hundreds of times at this point, and the first breakfast, lunch, Maybe dinner, right? Most people only get past the first day. But even if you get past the first day, like, oh, that wasn't hard, that was pretty easy. Yeah, okay, it's Monday, right? So who gives a shit? Monday's an easy day to start things because, you know, you know, you're not doing much, you're probably working, whatever. And it's like, as Tuesday goes, if you get there, oh, that's not so bad. Then Wednesday, okay. Then Thursday, then Friday. Friday is a lot harder than Monday. Saturday, oh, that's a lot harder than Monday. You know, so again, it's, it kind of, um, it increases in intensity and holding your breath will let you know that. And I think it's one of the best, um, experiences subconsciously for what dieting feels like to us. We start off irrational. Dieters are irrational as it gets. I almost can't think of a group that's more irrational than a dieter because again, you've got so much evidence, so much experience, that all of a sudden changing your eating, you can start off with some energy and make it happen, but you always can't keep it up. I was— it's the white-knuckle thing, you know? It's holding on to a bar. At first you can do it because your muscles are fresh and everything's fresh. That ain't the hard part. The hard part's not the starting. Although that is a hard part. But the hard part is keeping it up, you know. And again, if you're approaching like a dieter, it's like, uh, it's almost not even possible. Yeah. Crystal says losing weight is top 4 hardest things to do as a human. Um, top 4, that's an interesting number. Um, sure. I mean, I don't know, that, that's kind of arbitrary number, so I don't know. And everyone's different, all the rest of it. But yeah, losing weight is extremely difficult in this culture for a number of reasons. Number 1 is that we're surrounded by hyperpalatable foods. That's the first challenge. Number 2, um, and when I say hyperpalatable foods, I'm talking about these are literal substances that are designed to be as addictive as possible, and they're very effective at it. Okay, that's number 1. Number 2, you are constantly being reminded of these foods through advertisements. You're seeing hundreds and hundreds of food ads every single day. So you don't live in a vacuum. You live in an environment where it's constantly trying to trigger you to go back to this addictive substance. So, yeah, that's really difficult. And then the third thing that makes it hard is that you don't have any real strategy for how to manage it. You've got this, you know, you've got this knee-jerk dieting fairy tale that you've been sold your whole life that doesn't work, you know. And so you're kind of lost in the desert when it comes to managing your weight. And there's no real reference point for it either. You can't eat like your grandmother ate. Your grandmother didn't have all this shit around her. She didn't have nonstop marketing. So this idea that you're just going to eat like your ancestors— your ancestors didn't even live in this environment. We live in an alien environment that no one, no humans have ever lived in before. The food environment. And on top of that, all the conditioning that's happening, all the ads you're exposed to— you think they don't matter? You think they spend billions and billions of dollars on advertising because it doesn't work? I hope not. So there's a lot of reasons why, um, managing your weight is challenging, but I think the biggest reason of all is that you don't— you've never been given a plan. If you ask 1,000 Americans how to lose weight, you're gonna hear diet, surgery, injections. That's it. You're not gonna hear mindset change, are you? No, you're not gonna hear mindset change because there's not even a mindset-based program out there that's in any— you name one. I ask this every day. Go ahead, folks. Prove— I never get an answer to this. I've been doing this for over 3 years, this podcast. Give me the name of a mindset-based weight management program, even a shitty one. I don't care. Who do you think of when you think of weight and mindset? Who do you think of? And so you're not thinking of anyone, okay? And so now the next question is, is that because mindset doesn't really matter? Because that's how the diet industry treats it, don't they? Does the diet industry really— have they taught you how to change your mindset? Have you, in your decades of trying to manage your weight and nonstop listening to podcasts, nonstop reading diet books, nonstop trying stuff, have you ever, ever been taught how to manage your mindset or even how your mindset affects your weight? Am I woo-woo because I'm talking about mindset in your weight? Could you possibly think that your mindset is not one of the biggest factors in your weight? Could you honestly say that? And so if you believe it is a big factor, then how do you explain that you've never even learned anything about it? How is this possible? So to me, that's the biggest reason why weight's so hard for most people is because they have never been shown how to manage their weight effectively. Dieting is not it. Dieting is not it at all because dieting is about losing weight. And you might be shocked to hear this, but your goal is not to lose weight. That is not your goal. Your goal is to live at your goal weight. Those are two different things. Getting to your goal weight is the goal of a diet. Living at your goal weight is the goal of Program Yourself Thin. And those are two completely different goals with two totally different strategies. So you, your entire life, have been bombarded with diet marketing that is about how can I lose the weight as fast as possible? And what that process does to you is it puts you on a hamster wheel of losing some weight, putting it back on, losing some weight, putting it back on, losing some weight, putting it back on. Wanting to lose weight, not being able to get yourself to take action, really wanting to lose weight but not being able to do it because you get apathetic. You know, you get to a point at some point, you say, what's the point? Oh man, none of this works. What am I gonna do? Diane says, right on, it's hard when you see all the junk on TV and the internet. Yes, absolutely. It's, it's advertising works, you know, when you're, when you're exposed to this shit all the time, especially if you got predilection to like it, be addicted to it. It's tough. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, Crystal says you'll, you'll hear mindset change after you've done everything else. Yep, because it's the only solution, I suppose. Yeah, agreed. The diet industry is not your friend. I mean, that's why you never hear about it, I think. Um, Yeah, well, there you go, Crystal. And there— that's terrifying to me. Crystal wrote, David Goggins is who I thought of for mental weight wellness guy. And I think that that's the saddest thing I've heard all day. I— David Goggins is fine. I mean, like, he's fine for that type of person, you know. He's the— he's the worst thing in the world for me. I'm not like that. I don't want to live my life like that at all. I'm repelled by that whole approach. I'm not repelled by him. He seems like a fine person. I'm sure he's fine. But that approach, oh God, I just run the opposite direction. I don't think of him as a wellness guy at all. I think of him as this extreme athlete, you know, and it's the complete antithesis of how I am. And so I feel— I always feel sad when people feel like they got to try and emulate David Goggins. Now listen, I went through this because I was, I was a big Tony Rob— I am still a Tony Robbins fan, but When I started out my whole journey, Tony Robbins-ish, and I, I had to struggle at one point. Oh my God, I love this, but I'm not that guy. I'm not that rah-rah, you know, and nor should I be. Tony Robbins got a big tumor in his brain. Let it be known, this is something that brings me a lot of peace. I'm not like that. But Tony Robbins is a freak of nature. Oh, literally, he's got a tumor in his brain that made him grow 7 feet tall and, and probably gives him extra energy or some shit. I don't know. But I'm not him. And that's the, that's the main point. I don't have to be him, you know. And I think a lot of times we try to emulate people and try to pretend to be them when it's not really us, you know. Um, but what's up, Hillary? Hillary says, tip I use: buffet after weekly services. I go last for comm, pick small amount from up to 6 items, image of full muffin tin, toss plate. So no seconds, not la moria, but no regrets. Yeah, great job, Hillary. And again, we have to have different strategies for different situations, and, um, that's a great one. What's up, Carolyn? Carolyn says strategy and mindset. Yep. Carolyn says, I used to think of products I used to boost serotonin and endorphins, lower cortisol, and the gut-brain matrix too. Um, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I don't— I personally don't think that there's— and I see Crystal asking that, should I take peptides? Yeah, here come peptides. I see peptides coming up. I see— I think of like the diet industry is like, uh, it's like a never-ending race, right? And in first place right now is protein. Everything's about protein. Uh, but coming, coming right up behind protein is peptides, you know? And it's like, nah, you know, fuck those peptides. It's like, again, I don't know, it's, um, it's just like, uh, I, I don't even— I'm not even looking into peptides, you know? Maybe they'd help a little bit, maybe they won't, but there's never any one thing that's going to fix your weight. You know, that's my point. Um, just protein maxing is not going to make you thin. What a fucking goofy idea. It just, oh boy, does this grind my gears. The protein thing is just like, oh my God, the protein thing we live in right now. It's just, it never, it never ends. The protein paradox, folks, is that bodybuilders protein max so they can bulk up. So what— how exactly are you using, um, how exactly are you using protein to lose weight? I think people think if I eat lots of protein, I'll get muscular and I'll lose weight. It's like, uh-huh, yeah, because you got a protein, uh, you know, iced latte, you know what I mean? Like, that's gonna help you lose weight. I'm so triggered by protein this week. I've had a bunch of conversations about it, and it's just It's, it's no, I mean, it's just always something that's kind of dumb. I'm not saying it was dumb because they think protein, protein matters, right? But folks, what a lot of you may not know is that you can't even be protein deficient unless you undernourished, meaning unless your calories aren't meeting the minimum requirement. That's why you've never taken a protein deficiency test unless you had some real outlier situation where you couldn't eat. So this idea of protein maxing is just another trickery by the diet industry. Yeah, Kyle says they also carb max. It's true. But yeah, folks, you're not, you're not bodybuilders, you know. And this idea that if you don't protein max, you're just gonna fall away to nothing when you're 70. I mean, what? What? God Almighty. You know what? You know what leads to muscle loss is not using your muscles. Again, folks, I don't know, I'm starting to think that The Blue Zones is the most important book to read. It's, I guess, the most important book that I think is the most important is dependent on the reality of time. But I think right now so many people are being explicitly and implicitly focused on protein. And it's just a new thing. It's just— there's going to be something next 6 months from now to be something different. They've done this so many times. It's gluten-free, it's carb-free, um, it's all about the sugar, it's all about the salt, it's all about the Mediterranean food, it's all about counting your points. It's like it's always one thing that they focus you on, then they move on to the next thing. And right now it's protein. Protein's not going to fix your weight issue. Just protein maxing is not going to fix your weight issue. No, it's not. It'll fix your weight issue is fiber maxing. Natural fiber. Why'd you go down that path? Because there's no money to be made from fiber supplements. There's a lot of money being made off of meat. Crystal says muscle loss at 38 causing severe limited mobility, shouldn't be focused on bodybuilding and protein, protein, protein. Yeah, I mean, again, the Blue Zones— what you find with the Blue Zones, what the Blue Zones are, is— I don't know, it was 20 years ago, they wanted to find out which populations in the world— they'll get the whole world— which populations had the highest highest number of people living to 100. Okay, and so they went to the top 5 places where the highest number of 100-year-olds live to, and they interviewed them. So what'd you do? Without exception— and these are all, let me just make clear, all the people they interviewed, they were in their hundreds or they're about close to be there. Were all active, healthy, high quality of life people. So I want to make that clear. They weren't interviewing people that were in wheelchairs that were, you know, in a state of, you know, complete and total, you know, disrepair. They were talking to active, live, high quality people. And none of them were protein maxing, not even one of them, because without exception, all 5 of these places lived on high carb low protein diets, which is the healthiest diet that exists. So this idea of protein maxing is unfounded. What, what population are you going to point to that is protein maxing and has been that you want to emulate their health outcomes? So I want you to all reflect on this because I know you're all obsessed on protein right now, but I want to ask you a simple question. What population in your mind do you imagine that you want to emulate their results? The Inuit Eskimo, the Matsui tribe out in Africa. Those are protein-rich, high-protein diets. Is that who you want to be like? Who? I ask this every day too. I never get an answer. And if you can't answer this, then why do you think so much about protein maxing? What's the theory that you're going to build up as much muscle as you can right now now so that when you're older you have lots of muscle? Is that why you're protein maxing? Because you got to work out hard the whole time too to get that level of muscle and to keep it. Again, muscle, muscle is important. Please understand, protein is important. I'm not saying they're not. I'm saying that they've gotten way out of balance, and the average American is going to be way better off focusing on their fiber intake than their protein intake, which they're already getting enough of. You're already getting plenty of protein. Cranking up having plenty of protein up to more protein— what benefit exactly are you getting out of that? Yeah, so I don't know. What's up, Jane? Let's talk about protein. I'm still recovering. You know how I got woke up this morning? A bee sting, or a wasp sting, I can't tell the difference. Or is it a hornet? What's a yellow jacket? I don't know, it looked like a yellow— it didn't look like a normal bee to me. It looked like a big old bigger bee. I think that's a hornet. Maybe it's a wasp. Now I'm confused. I gotta look at pictures, I guess. It was yellow. But yellow jackets are wasps, aren't they? I don't know. It bit me right on my little toe. That's how I woke up today. I will tell you one thing though, I was so happy. I flipped the sheets. I was, holy shit, what was that? I was like, a hornet. Yes, thank you. Because it was still alive too. So I guess bees, they, yeah, they die because it pulls the stinger out of them, right? I think hornets can keep getting you. So yeah, I flipped. I said, please let it, let me just see something. You know, which reminded me, I always say this too, kryptonite— or, uh, uncertainty is like kryptonite for our brain. And so had I flipped those sheets up and seen nothing, what was it? I would— I'd still be thinking about it all day long. So I was very thankful to see it, but, um, very unpleasant way to wake up. My toes finally feeling normal again. Yes, it is terrifying. Exactly, Crystal. A hornet in my bed is terrifying. How that thing got in there, oh my God. Oh, and it is weird. It's just so crazy. You think about pain sometimes, it's just hard to believe something that little can cause so much pain in your— it is so much pain. But anyways, feel good now. I got stung by just a regular old bee one time. I was just shocked. It's shocking how much it can hurt. I was glad I'm not, not a Not allergic to them. Uh, Jane said I couldn't wake up this morning, I took a sleep holiday. Good for you, Jane, that happens. I woke up this morning. You get stung in the little toe, that'll wake you up real quick. I was up, no sleeping through that. Oh my goodness. Oh, I know, Carol. Yeah, how long was it in there? I know, that's the scary part. Right? Is thinking like, how long, how long has that thing been in there? How'd it get in there? Are there more in there? Is it freaking me out? Oh, wasp. I got a hive in my nest. I don't know. It did in the morning too. Is it in there all night? I don't know where to come from. What a mystery. Sucked though. Yeah, but people are still too focused on protein, never mind that hornet. Protein is just, uh, it's too much. And I'll tell you, I'll give you a real legitimate way that can sabotage people is I find that a lot of times people are so concerned with getting their protein levels that they have a hard time reducing their calories, right? Because it's hard to hit these protein numbers that certain people are telling you you gotta hit, um, and keep your calories where they need to be to get your weight where you want it to. And I find this being a real struggle for a lot of people. On top of that, I find a lot of people really increasing their cognitive load, trying to hit these protein levels that are suggested for you. And I think that in and of itself is really a message. I think when things are always hard, always take focus, always take concentration, that it's going to be hard to keep it up. And find a lot of people doing the protein maxing. They're so obsessed with the protein that That's energy they could really use much more valuably in other places. Oh no, Jane, they do say that, don't they? They say that. Yeah, Jane said, well, they say we swallow a few spiders each night. I mean, it can't be each night. It must be over a year or life, right? I mean, I'm not swallowing spiders every night. I'm not though. I know I'm not swallowing spiders at night because I use mouth tape. It can't get in there. And don't even tell me that they can crawl on your nose. I don't want to hear that today. If it's true, I don't— please just don't even say it if it's true. I don't want to hear it. Can I deal with so much in a day? Yeah, swallowing spiders, that's gross. That's probably true. I have heard that. Crystal said, don't go there, Jane. It's true, it's true. Uh, Jane said, finally found the tortillera I was wanting a couple of days ago and then ate 3/4 of it yesterday. Good job, Jane. I know how that is too, and that's a normal thing. You know, we crave something, don't get it, That just makes the craving go up. So I think it's best to have had it. You got to have it. I hope you enjoyed it. You ate 3/4 of it. There you go. All right. Nice job, Jane. And what I like about Jane is Jane is right back in the game. I will say, and Jane, you can celebrate that. Remember, always on the back of every mistake we make is the opportunity to celebrate our resiliency if we get back on track. And I think that's one thing you could absolutely— Jane, I don't think there's any doubt that you could look at the last week, 2 weeks, and really celebrate your resiliency. So that's a big— that's a big deal. Um, Carolyn says, 'It's stupid expensive here up in Canada.' Yep. You know, Carolyn likes meat pies too. Meat pie must— is that more of a Canadian thing? I don't know. I don't hear a lot about meat pie. I don't eat meat, so I don't know. But I don't even hear about a lot about meat pies in America. Chicken pot pies. Is meat pie like a— maybe that's more of a Canadian thing, like, uh, poutine. Yeah, Jane says, I'm resilient for sure. There you go, Jane. And you build around that, you know. And again, remember, that's part of the self-image work in the program, is to identify and acknowledge your, your strengths, right? You know, you know you can, um You can certainly, uh, you could certainly nitpick your weaknesses, you know, but what's it take to actually build around your strengths, right? And so resilient is one of those things that, you know, you're resilient, you know, so build around that. And that's really important because the more we pride ourselves on resiliency, the more we set ourselves to bounce back when we make mistakes quicker, right? Because we identify ourselves that way. Um, French-Canadian. All right, let me go on a French-Canadian land in a little while. I'm going to Montreal. Oh, it's a Quebec thing. Okay. Um, Valeo says, isn't fish good for us? Uh, yeah, I think fish is fine for us. I mean, I think, I think I'm not a big hater of meat. I think, again, understand that, that, uh, the, the average suggested serving size of meat is 4 ounces. Okay, so I, I, I personally, I am a pescatarian, pretty much a vegetarian. I don't even eat much fish, but, um, I'm not opposed to meat. I don't think meat's a bad thing at all. I think that, uh, I look at— I, I don't eat, I don't eat land animals because I don't like— well, I have a number of reasons. The big ones being I don't really like farmed, the whole farm system. I don't think it's the highest quality meat. You know, that's a big part of it. Um, and that's a big reason I don't eat farmed fish. I eat sockeye salmon, I eat wild-caught fish, I eat clams. Um, I really seek to avoid farmed fish. It's, it's, to me, it's gross. You know, if you watch where fish are farmed, if you watch where animals are raised, it's, um, it's, it's not on pastures, you know what I mean? It's a lot of stress hormones and diseases and all the rest of it. But anyways, but I don't think fish— I think fish is good as well, but I do think moderation. I think especially at this point with mercury in the water and pollution, all the rest of it, farmed fish, um, you know, I don't think eating a lot of fish is a great idea. Uh, there is— I think it's Monterey Bay Aquarium. You can look up their chart for which fishes they suggest and which fishes to, you know, minimize or avoid, uh, based on different factors. I think that's a good thing to look at. Um, so, you know, I think you have to get more distinction. Just fish in general, I don't think is a good question. I think which fish, you know, and then, um, I think fish are good for you, but I think certain fish are good, certain amounts of it are good. And pretty much the same thing, I think, with land animals. Um, you know, certain quantities are good and, uh, certain qualities, right, where they were raised, how they were raised, all the rest of it are important. Um, I'll tell you one thing I don't think is good. I don't think carnivore is a good option. I, I don't think just eating a carnivore diet makes a lot of sense for most people. You know, maybe if you have a real extreme outlier condition and that's the best solution, you know, that's something. But, um, I think that, um I think that, uh, it's overstated, but I think that's just another branch of the whole, the whole protein market. Oh yeah, I agree. Carolyn says no way is as bad as a Big Mac meal. Yeah, I'm sure. Again, I mean, anything homemade-ish is going to be better than any fast food. Just, I mean, I maybe I might be an exception here or there, but The, the basic rule is that's true, you know. Fast junk food is going to be not great. Um, user 714 says, how about fruit? Yeah, fruit's amazing for you. Again, this is why I get, you know, listen, I don't— I'm obviously against protein, okay? I'm against protein maxing because protein maxing is just the newest version of Atkins, keto, paleo, and now we're at carnivore and protein maxing. And again, it's because there's lots of money made off of meat and protein supplements. It's not— this isn't a hard case to crack. And so they suggest that shit because there's a lot of money to be made off of it. And, um, I'll tell you one thing, when you get into a weight loss plan or a diet and you start considering if I should eat fruit or not, that is a huge red flag in my opinion., for the plan you're following. Uh, the World Health Organization says the number one thing to improve the health of the world is for the people to eat more fruit. So, I mean, we've been eating fruit longer than anything else. So yeah, fruit is great for you. Again, there's quantity and quality factors, okay? But yeah, it's great for you. Um, but what's even better than fruit, in my opinion, is vegetables. I, I think that's the core of my diet, is vegetables. Vegetables, beans, greens— that's the, the bullseye of it. Then there's kind of fruit, um, then there's, you know, fish, and, and things kind of move out from there. But, uh, that's the core of it because that's what will work for best for most people. But yes, plant-based diet ought to be the, the the core of pretty much everyone's diet. If you want the healthiest diet for most people, a plant-based diet is that, okay? Which doesn't mean you can't eat meat. Please understand when I say plant-based, based, okay? Plant foundation. That's all I'm saying. So I'm not saying eat or don't eat meat. That's your choice. But I would suggest that the bulk of your calories, if you make them whole natural foods in the form of fruits, vegetables, greens, beans, um, you're gonna have a much easier time managing your weight. You're gonna feel a lot better is what I think. Uh, uh, Carolyn says, would you use transfer factors from bovine colostrum and egg yolk for immune system, or no because of vegetarian? Um, I wouldn't use it because I don't like— I don't personally like supplements all that much. And I don't— it's not that I'm not against like certain supplements. I'm sure there's great ones out there. I'm not— I don't really even explore them that much. I don't like the philosophy that they can extract one thing from— I don't know where bovine colostrum is at, like milk, right? Colostrum is milk. You're going to pull something out of bovine colostrum that's going to serve me. That's such a weird thinking in my mind because I really think primarily in terms of a food matrix. So I look at like an apple and I think of it as it has fiber and it has this fructose and it has the vitamin. Everything's kind of in a food matrix and that food matrix. So, so it's almost like the sum of the parts are greater than as a whole. I'm saying that wrong. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts, whatever. But the food matrix, I think, is important because I think it allows your body to break it down in the proper way. I think eating an apple sends a signal to your mind and your body that eating a cookie doesn't. You know, I like cookies too, so I eat cookies. But I'm just saying I don't like the idea that some scientist is going to pull one little thing out of this and then sell it to me as a supplement. And that thing in that form is going to have this amazing impact on me. I don't think that way. I think bigger picture that I want to build my diet and, and what I eat and put in my body around whole natural foods, because that's what we've been eating for millions of years, not, um, bovine colostrum transfer factors, right? That's a new thing that, you know, I don't know, you know. So, so I just, I don't, I just tend not to think that way, and it served me well, you know. Yeah, it's baby milk. Yeah, okay, that's baby milk. That's another thing too. I ain't a cow. I'm not a cow. So I just— again, milk, milk, okay, milk was the precursor to the protein maxing to some degree. The drink milk thing's a bunch of fucking bullshit, folks. It's a marketing campaign to sell milk because they make a lot of money selling milk. You ain't a baby cow. The baby cow. Shit's weird. That milk wasn't put in a carton for you to buy at the store. You can go to the fucking field and what are you gonna do? You're gonna go squeeze the utter, milk utter, into your mouth? Hot, hot milk utter into your mouth? Who's the first person that did that? You don't think that's nasty? You don't think that's gross? You're gonna drink Why don't they— this is how, this is how conditioned you are. This is my, one of my favorite examples of conditioning. You want to know what hypnosis is? Do you want to know what hypnosis is in reality? Not, ooh, I'm in trance, I'm clucking like a chicken. You want to talk about real practical hypnosis and how it's used against you? Milk. How can I prove this? Okay, you're fine drinking cow milk. You're fine with it. Nothing wrong with it. It's not weird, not gross. It's fine. But what if I offered you some human milk? You're a human. You're a human. How come you feel grossed out by drinking human milk but you feel great about drinking cow milk? Is there any logic in that? If there's any logic in that, please share it with me. It's purely hypnotic conditioning. You've been conditioned to think of milk as a drink for your whole life. And that conditioning is so strong that it literally has you craving cow milk and rejecting human milk. And you're a human. Well, I got news for you. The way you feel about human milk is the way you ought to feel about cow milk. It's weird. It's a weird thing. And I always wish I could go back in time and talk to the first person who tried it. That was probably the weirdest person in the tribe, I bet. So funny. Diane says, I agree, I agree with, uh, I agree with plant-based. Tried that too and still couldn't keep on track. Well, yeah, Diane, I mean, because you tried it, you know what I mean? Anything in life that you try, you're probably not going to stick with very much. Right. If I tried college, I would have never finished. If I tried starting a business, I would have never had a business. So, you know, you either agree with plant-based and you commit to it and make it a part of your life, or you don't. Because if you think that you're going to read a story about plant-based, like, oh, that makes a lot of sense, let's see if I can just become a plant-based person all of a sudden. Well, there's no strategy there. There's no commitment. There's no real plan. There's no system, you know. Maria says, I lost 24 kilograms because of your videos. Thank you, thank you, Maria. Appreciate you sharing that screenshot. Keep it up, Maria. Nice job. Uh, Valeo says, I like human milk, LOL. Fair enough, fair enough. Uh, but most people don't, you know. Most people don't. Most people have kind of a negative, aversive reaction to the idea of drinking human milk. Oh, there we go. What do we get restricted for? Nudity and body exposure. Oh, fair enough. You know what, maybe it should be restricted. I don't want kids seeing this stuff. Uh, Shelly says, I'm slow and steady dropping weight, taking your advice. Thank you. Nice job, Shel. That's how it goes. Slow and steady is the way, you know. What's up, Sanjita? How's it going? Uh, that's funny. Well, very good. All right everyone, I gotta get out of here. Oh, it's 1:07. I was gonna get out 10 minutes ago. Um, yes, thank you so much for listening, your comments. I appreciate it every day. This is, uh, I have to pinch myself. I love getting to talk to you all and getting to share this stuff, and hopefully it helps you out. Um, shout out, special shout out to Maria. Nice job, Maria, keep it up. That's quite an accomplishment. And, um, if you're not in my world, click the link in my bio or go to programyourselfthin.com. Or, um, go to— I just put the link in the chat over there, uh, go get the hypnosis session I gave you. Because, uh, not only you get that hypnosis session right away, but I give you a training, I give you a bunch of free stuff that'll help you out. Um, and, uh, why not? Why not check it out, right? What if it does help you out? Uh, if you like this, I'm here every Monday through Friday around noon Eastern. Uh, happy to answer any questions, talk to you about whatever weight-related issues you may be going through. And if you can't make the live, it's also a podcast and you can search that up on any podcast platform, search Program Yourself, then it'll pop up and you can, you can listen to it whenever you want. All right. And then finally, there is a book. I have a book out. And so if you're looking for a book to read about your weight, this is it. The Tao of Living at Your Goal Weight. People loving it. All about living at your goal weight. And I see Catherine. I saw that. Yeah. Yes. Studies support whole foods are more beneficial to our health. Yeah, no shit, right? I mean, folks, whole foods are what we've been eating for millions of years on this earth as humans. That's what we've evolved to eat. That's what our digestive systems have evolved to eat— whole natural foods. It's so— yes, I'm glad studies support that, but it makes sense too, right? So thanks, Catherine. All right, everyone, have a super duper day and we'll talk soon. Bye.
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