Sitting With The Discomfort

Jim Katsoulis explains why sustainable weight loss requires sitting with discomfort rather than fighting or forcing through it. When you notice mild discomfort, breathe, and observe it without judgment, its intensity shrinks and you make clearer choices. This middle path avoids the extreme cravings that come from restrictive dieting.
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Everyone, welcome to today's Program Yourself Thin podcast. Today we're talking about sitting with the discomfort, because if you're going to create any change in your life, certainly with your weight, you're going to experience discomfort. It's, it's by definition, okay? Because anytime you do something new— well, let me back it up. Anytime you do something different, it's new, and anything new to our nervous system is uncomfortable. So we're just going to start that with a baseline that anything new that you do, there's going to be a level of discomfort with it. And obviously that discomfort can be little to, to great, um, but the process of sitting with it is the same. And I find it to be really, really helpful because if you're like most people, that feeling of discomfort is really driving you in ways that you don't even realize because you're so scared of feeling uncomfortable. You're so scared of that discomfort that you're almost, um, subconsciously without realizing it, reacting and acting in a way to keep you from it. So that this begins to describe why you struggled. It's one piece. There's more to it than just this, but when you've got to create change in the past, Part of it is that you're going to do new things. And on top of doing new things, there's a sense of uncertainty and there's fear and there's all this feeling. And again, we're just going to use the general catch-all of discomfort. But what happens for a lot of people is they try and fight against that discomfort by pushing through it or by ignoring it. And I have found that both lead to the wrong place most of the time. And that is because a lot of times we're doing it very subconsciously. So we're sensing this discomfort and we're subconsciously either avoiding it, not paying attention to it, and/or we're trying to force ourselves into it and forcing ourselves into it. For me, it's kind of like you hold two poles, two magnetic poles opposite together. You try and push them together. You can do it, but there's always a force pushing back or holding a ball underwater, right? Takes a lot of energy to push ourselves through discomfort. Okay, so what I'm talking about is a middle step, and it's sitting with discomfort. And what this means is that you really start to become aware of it more than anything else. So it's not really even about relieving the discomfort at first. Certainly you can use it to go in that direction, but it's really just about sitting with it, existing with it. And when you do this, one of the first things that happens is most of the time you're going to realize that this discomfort is a lot less than you thought. And I think that's one of the biggest things to remember is that we have this subconscious fear of some crazy amount of discomfort, but a lot of times our body and our nervous system are exaggerating it, right? They're really— they're thinking it's gonna be a lot worse than it is. And that mismatch can really cause us to really avoid it. So if we just sit present with it, you and you move towards the discomfort in kind of a curious way, um, relaxed and grounded, you interface with it very differently and you begin to understand it in a much different way. Because usually you're kind of like this, or you're just charging through with tunnel vision. And so we're just relaxing, grounding ourselves and existing with the discomfort. And again, the discomfort can show up in 1,000 different ways. So I'm not going to go in all the specific ways you could feel discomfort. But as an example, you say, well, I'm going to stop eating ice cream at night. Okay. And it sounds great until night actually comes. And as you get closer to it, you can feel that discomfort building in you. And so regardless of whether you eat ice cream or not, you can still sit with the discomfort. You can feel it building in you. You can feel as that moment gets closer that you're more tuned into it, that it's more acute. You can notice how it affects your thinking. You can notice where you feel it in your body. So there's a lot of things you can do with that discomfort that are really, really valuable. Now, again, I'm not saying that it resolves everything and fixes everything instantly. Please understand. But it becomes part of a process where you begin to understand yourself better. You get a more accurate sense of what's mild discomfort and what's great discomfort, and that informs your strategies moving forward. So I suggest and urge you to do some of this today, this week. Is to relax and notice situations where you may feel discomfort and intentionally sit with that mindfully, where you're present, where you're grounded, where you're connected to your breath, where you're aware of what the experience of discomfort feels like, how it moves through your body, how you experience it, what you think, how it affects your behaviors. And that's the first step. And that's the only one I'm suggesting here is to just become aware of it, to be with it. And a lot of times, once you've done that, the next step a lot of times reveals itself. But for you this week here today, really focus on sitting with the discomfort and notice what new thoughts and insights and awarenesses come into your mind and body. And if you want some help with that whole process, click the link in my bio or go to programyourselfthen.com and go get the free hypnosis session I made for you. It is called The New Thin Me, and it is completely free. I'm gonna put the link up here if you're over in Facebook or YouTube land. If you're on TikTok, you just click on the little picture of me up in the top left there. Go check it out. Yes, and you have any questions, feel free to ask him. Any questions are welcome. I'm here every weekday to help people move past their weight issues in a unique new way, hopefully. So yes, if you have any questions at all, feel free to ask them. I know a lot of people kind of getting ready to— well, is it this week? Maybe not this week. Oh, but then there's Easter coming. It's so funny, there's always the excuses, right? So it's like we're kind of getting close to the end of the month, so a lot of people are going to wait this week and it'll start next week, right? Because next week will be the first of the month. But then if you're, you know, religious and you got Easter coming, oh my God, start the week before Easter. I'll start the week after Easter. I can't start the middle of the month. I'm gonna wait till the end of the month. Memorial Day. This goes on and on and on. So, uh, if that's happening to you, you know, you're not alone. You're not alone. Christina says, help, LOL. I think you feel that way, you know. I get it, Christina, because sometimes we can feel like we're just drowning, you know. And certainly with weight loss feels like that. And you, you may experience this drowning in ideas, right? And I think that's part Again, I think the diet industry is very devious, and I think part of the plan is to overwhelm you. Every week it's a different thing to do, right? Every week it's something new, and it gets us feeling so overwhelmed that we get to the point where just, help, help, I don't even know what to do, you know? And it feels that way for a lot of people. So again, one thing I always say, you know, when the questions come through, what you'll notice me doing, and I say it out loud so you can see it happening, but almost every time I work with someone, it's like, like almost without exception where we're drilling down, you know, like almost without exception, the questions kind of come up here big and vague in the beginning and we have to drill down and get more specific. And, you know, part of being able to do that is to realize that there is no just big answer. And I think dieting has conditioned you to think there's just like one big thing you're going to shift and everything's going to change. Every single diet is built around the one thing. Whether it be not eating for 16 hours, not eating carbs, only eating carbs, only eating meat, not eating meat, only— it doesn't matter. Everything's built around one concept, one idea. And that really does train our brains to think about weight loss in a very big, general way. And that's one of the biggest, fastest ways to get to a feeling of overwhelm, because there's no specificity when we think that way. And so everything feels, you know, kind of overwhelming and big. And so I have found that strategically, one thing I do with almost without exception with my clients is we drill down and get specific. How do I stop bingeing? Can you know, how can anyone answer that? You know, you're going to get a vague general answer. We've got to drill down. Well, which specific binges, right? Then you start realizing, oh, I got this pattern, this pattern, this pattern. Well, you're 50 miles ahead of the path now. You know, you've really gone a long way just by defining that. And then we dive into those, you know, and we say, okay, what's going on here? So I'm like, I don't have time for that. You know, some people will say, which is why Program Yourself Thin is really not for everyone. It's really only for a few people. That's what I've come to realize. And I'm happy to say that Program Yourself Thin, I think, is specifically— this approach is specifically for people that are overthinkers. I've come to own that and acknowledge it and let you all know too. Um, what's up, Jackie? Jackie says, your book that I ordered just arrived. I didn't open it yet. Any recommendations on how to read it all at once or a little at a time? Um, well, thanks for— Jackie, thanks for getting that book. I really appreciate it. The book Jackie's referring to is my book, The Tao of Living at Your Goal Weight. So yes, this is my first kind of official book. But, um, so thanks, Jackie. I appreciate you getting this. I think— I know you're gonna love it because I know you're here and I know you're— it's really gonna resonate with you. Um, this book is kind of unique because technically it's an odd book because it's really It's 40 chapters and each chapter is only a page or two. They're short, but each chapter is a hypnotic story and it's designed that way very intentionally because this was a book I wrote to kind of be the counterweight to Program Yourself Then: The Full System. Because Program Yourself Then, it, it's a meaty course. I say this freely. There's a lot of information. There's a lot of thinking. There's a lot of, you know, kind of going through stuff. This book here is kind of the opposite of that, but it actually takes you through the system in a very light, accessible way. You don't have to know anything about program yourself. Then you read this book and it changes you while you read it. So that being said, Jackie, there are no rules. That's the first one. You can read all of it tonight. You could read one chapter a day. Either way is fine. It's completely up to you. I will tell you what a lot of people report is they start reading it and they can't put it down because they're fun stories to read. You can feel the changes happening in you, the way you think, the way you feel. The way you associate to certain aspects of your weight. It's like brand new for a lot of people. Okay, so that's been very validating. I got to tell you, this book, but it's unique that way. It's not just more information, you know, like, like, folks, holy shit, you've got enough information about weight loss, you know, like you need shifts inside of you, nervous system, emotional shifts and cognitive shifts in how you think about things. And that's what this book's designed to do. So, um, I would suggest, Jackie, that you let your intuition kind of follow or kind of lead you, lead you forward. Um, the first thing I would do intentionally is just, just sit down somewhere with the book and start reading and read as long as you want. Again, a lot of people, they start reading, they don't want to put it down, and that's what it's built for. That, on the other hand, though, it's also built to be read in any order. So another way you could do it is literally, um, just scan through it and whatever kind of grabs your attention, go read that. That's another way to do it. This book really is ultimately designed for you to read repeatedly. This book— this, and again, The Tao is kind of a nod to that. But for me, especially at a certain point in my life, the Tao Te Ching, uh, was a real important book for me. I used to read it every night. Um, and it's kind of written this similar way where each chapter is kind of like— you can see kind of how long, you know, we're talking like a page or two. And so the Tao Te Ching— and I had the version I had— I was so lucky. I don't know where I even got this. Gift from the universe, I suppose. Uh, it was Jane English, and she has— it's a version, it's kind of almost like a picture book, right? So there's kind of pictures, and it just, it's beautiful, I think. And, um, I would do yoga, and then I would sit and I would read like a chapter of that. And it was— I just loved it. I loved Taoism just as a concept and a philosophy, was so profound to me. And then the specific lessons I was learning in there, those were so useful and helpful. And the way it was written, I thought was great because I could just— whatever was kind of talking to me that moment, I'd kind of read it and it was cool. So there's none of the linear, you got to start here. You can do that certainly, and that's what this book's meant for, is for you to kind of randomly be able to pick it up, any chapter, open it up and get something out of it. Now again, if you read it from front to back, you're going to get all the concepts and ideas as well though, but let yourself kind of, kind of guide it. Um, yeah, yeah, there you go, Lois. Lois says, I'll randomly open the book and read that chapter. Yeah, exactly, that's what it's meant for. That's why I also suggest get the physical physical version. Um, it's like, it's a few dollars more, but then you have in your house and it feels cool. I always say that it really does. It feels different. Um, and I did that very intentionally and it kind of all worked out right. But, uh, you know, it's meant to, you know, be on your coffee table, next to your bed, in the bathroom, just grab it randomly and read it. Uh, and that was what it was meant for, you know, so that, so you can consistently start to engage with something, you know, not have to dive in deep with it, but just you can casually kind of lightly touch it and get something out of it. So that's cool you say that, Lois. I appreciate you saying that. Um, yeah, Christina says, yeah, we celebrate two Easters— Orthodox Easter and regular Easter. Yeah, I hear you. I've been there. I don't have so much anymore. I don't— I don't so much anymore. But, um, yeah, two Easters is a lot for people too, right? And it's weird. Yeah, you have to like do two holidays in a row. Yeah, you're not Greek Orthodox. Well, I guess there's probably other Orthodoxes too, I guess. Russian Orthodox, they might be similar. I never really understood. I never really understood why they had different Easters, but, um, and they don't always. So Greek Orthodox and maybe Russian Orthodox, they have a different Easter sometimes than the, I guess, Roman Catholic. Is that— and so, um, I never really understood that, but sometimes they're the same. Some years are the same and some years they're different, and they can be— sometimes they're 4, 5, 6 weeks apart and sometimes they're a week apart. It's just, it's interesting. But yeah, that's gonna be an extra challenge for you, Christina. Sure. Christina says, food noise though. I do so many stupid things like eating based on what I weighed that morning. Um, yeah, but it's not stupid though, Christina, you know. Um, I'm gonna do a lesson on this at some point, uh, just— and again, I know you— when we kind of like say we're stupid for something, I know you're kind of joking and stuff, and I get it because I do this all the time. That's my main defense mechanism is kind of self-deprecation. But, um, you're not stupid at all. There's a reason why you, you know you do things, you know, you step on the scale and again, it can go either ways. You could have the scale went down, the scale went up. It could both trigger overeating. You know, that's the interesting piece of it all. But don't, don't dismiss it. You know, it's a real, it's a real thing happening. And that's, again, that's another example I was just talking about is going deeper into that, you know. So if the scale goes down, if I go and overeat, well, what's going on? Something's happening between there. If we step on the scale and it's down and we end up overeating in the afternoon, We're running a program. As soon as we step on that scale, we start saying and thinking something in our head that kind of leads to that overeating in the afternoon. If the scale goes up, it's the same thing, you know. So again, instead of just saying, 'I— well, look at silly me,' no, don't do that. You know, start to say, 'What do I say to myself? What do I think? What do I feel? How do I react?' Start to understand yourself. Start to notice the responses you have to that. And the more you understand them and become aware of them, the more influence you can, you know, potentially have over them. Okay, but ignoring— so I'm just silly, I'm silly, I should just, I should just eat fine regardless what the scale says. That, that's just, that's a, that's a denial method and it doesn't get you any deeper and usually keeps you stuck. What's up, Adrian? Adrian says, hi Jim, what's the difference between sitting with the uncomfortable situations and restricting? Um, oh, that's a great question, Adrian. Uh, well, yeah, okay, so I think that's such a good question and that's why I think that's a good practice to sit with the discomfort so that you can clarify that for yourself, you know? So I think what you'll notice if you pay attention to your discomfort— so let's just say you start a diet and of course you're going to start to feel lots of discomfort. Every time you start a diet, there's discomfort right there waiting for you just simply because you're changing what you're doing. And it's discomfort just from the cognitive load alone, because usually you just eat on autopilot. You just do what you do. Now all of a sudden you go into diet mode. Now you're thinking about all this stuff that you usually just do automatically, right? So right off the bat, it's uncomfortable, but then it gets progressively more uncomfortable typically as the day goes on, as the week goes on. And so what's the difference between sitting with that discomfort and restricting? Well, I'll tell you what'll happen if you stick with it for a week, and it probably won't take a week. What you'll notice is that the discomfort starts to build. And it gets to a point where you can't restrict anymore. And what you typically think of as dieting is basically that process happening subconsciously to you. And now it's different amount of time for each person. It's a different amount of time each time you try it, but basically you start your diet and your discomfort's down here. And the longer you stay on your diet, the higher the discomfort goes until you get to a point where you say, that's it, I've had enough. Now I'm super generalizing and simplifying here, but what I want to point out is that your entire method— this is dieting in a nutshell. Dieting in a nutshell says the goal is to use your willpower and to force yourself to stay in that discomfort. And I do not believe that's a good plan because I don't believe you're ever going to be able to stay in the discomfort long-term. You never have, and I don't think you ever will. So for me, when you start paying attention to the discomfort, what happens is you start to notice it now instead of waiting for it to get up here and expecting that it's all about fighting it up here. I start to notice it down here and I start to look for ways to ease the discomfort. And for most people, the only thing they have to ease the discomfort ultimately is to eat again. But if you start to realize and feel this comfort down here, you're going to start to realize there's a lot going on with your discomfort. It's not just the lack of food and the restriction. There is mental stress. There's the anticipation of how hard it's going to be, how boring it's going to be, how you're going to fail anyways. There's a lot of mindset stuff initially. And so if you can start to pay attention to that lesser, slighter, milder level of discomfort, what happens is you start to see more of the picture because most of you are ignoring the discomfort because that's part of dieting. Literally, you're using the little part of it. I know I feel uncomfortable. I'm going to ignore it. I can still ignore it, ignore it, ignore it. Push aside, push aside, push aside, push aside. I can't do this anymore. Fuck this. Right. And that's it in a nutshell, right? Whether it takes a day, whether it takes a month, that's basically it. It's you, you know, fighting against yourself for as long as you can until you can't do it anymore. And so if you think about winning at dieting, that's basically what you're imagining, that you're going to be able to force yourself to do something longer than you ever have before. I would suggest that that's the wrong way to approach it, because who wants to live a life of discomfort? I don't. Your brain is a pleasure-seeking mechanism. So to fight against your brain and your biology doesn't seem like a good strategy. And so I think the alternative is to really sit with and be aware of the discomfort at a mild level. The first hour, the first day, pay attention because most of it's coming not from the restriction, but from what you're thinking about what's about to come. And I think that's very eye-opening. It opens up a complete phase and level that most dieters have never really paid attention to because they're so gung-ho in the beginning. But the gung-ho really is the opposite of sitting with the discomfort. It's fighting, it's shielding yourself from the discomfort, psychologically ignoring it. I say sit with it and bring it in in a mild way, and you can fix a lot of things there. So what happens is we live in the mild discomfort state. That's where we want to stay. If you want to create change, my opinion is that we get comfortable in the mild discomfort phase. If I start feeling a lot of discomfort, I ease off, I pull back. Dieters are aiming for the most discomfort possible because you associate discomfort with fast results. I associate a lot of discomfort with short-term results at best, and I associate mild discomfort with something I can live with forever. I've gotten very good at mild discomfort because when I'm mildly discomfort, I'm discomfortable, if that's a word, when I'm mildly uncomfortable, I can rely on my breathing, my relaxation, my calming my mind and grounding myself, and I can do it pretty effectively. And so I'm able to exist in mild discomfort pretty comfortably at this point, you know, and that's where I live. Just because I'm good at that now doesn't mean I'm any better at staying in big discomfort. I will opt out and I will quit and I will— my behaviors will reflect that. So that's the alternative, I think, and I hope that explains it. It. So Meg says, I'm one away— what's that say? What's that say? I'm one away from 154.5 kilograms. I'm imagining— nice job, Meg! Good job. It sounds like— I don't know what your goals are, Meg, but it sounds like you're excited about it, so I'm excited. Um, I will just say one more thing too. If you mean I'm one kilogram away, you know, from 154.5, I would strongly suggest you think about your goal weight in a range just for your own sanity, because our weight is constantly fluctuating. We're alive. There's constantly— it's like a bank account, right? Bank accounts constantly fluctuating. And so your body is too. So I hope you can give yourself a range. Congratulations. It sounds like you're getting close to your goal, but also consider thinking in a range. It could be 1 or 2 kilograms, even 3 kilograms. Anything's going to be better than having it like down to the, to the ounce, you know, down to the gram. Um, you know, but nice job. User 5455 says, I'm trying to gain weight, I'm 20 and I have a weight of 43 kilograms. Um, what's up, Kent? Kent said, loved your prologue today. Months ago I would use my cravings to relax, think what would the thin me do, and slowly— that's awesome, that's so great, Kent. Yeah, Kent's killing it. Kent's in the program, took to it like a fish takes to water. So, uh, yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I'm glad you like the prologue today. I'm kind of shifting them up. I'm so excited. Oh, Oh, I've just hit a new phase in my— really, in a lot of things, but, but certainly with work. And it is just— it's so exciting for me. It's the most grounded, calmest phase I've ever had in my business, and I'm so excited for what's to come. And, uh, anyways, enough of that. But it's even affecting even the way I'm doing the podcast and stuff is going to shift a little bit. So I'm excited about— um, Christina says, is this on Audible? Uh, not yet. That's another plan. That, that's, that's going to be one I've got in the short term, very short term, is to make an audio version of this. I got to get that going. Um, I want to get that going. I want you all to be able to listen to it. And, um, I will tell you though, and it is kind of my fault in an indirect way, but my, my voice just has not been 100%. And so I have been putting it off a little bit because of that. And it's legit, but I am going to get to it, I promise. Um, Christina, yeah, I think again, you know, if you're 20 and you're trying to gain weight, um, I'm not, I'm not the guy. That's just not my specialty. I'm more helping— I don't want to say just women because I— but it is mostly women. I mean, I'm going to be honest, but I, I help men too. I mean, Ken's a good example. Um, I will say, I would say the way I was raised by women. I better have my whole— I don't know. It's just, it's just, it's, it's my natural— I don't know. I like working with women. Women seem gravitated towards this kind of work and this approach. But, but most of my clients are probably between 45 and 75, which isn't that— there are absolutely outliers that have used the program and thrived with it, you know. And then there's always the random men that just totally resonate with it. And it's so cool because I like— it's funny. Anytime I get to talk to him, it's such a connection. So it's really cool too. But yeah, 20 years old trying to gain weight, I would say that that's not my expertise. So I don't want to— certainly there's some things that would, would cross over and help you that we're talking about here, but, um, I don't want to— I don't want to do that. I don't want to waste your time. Uh, Artie says this is making so much sense. Well, good. I'm glad. I'm glad. Yeah, biggest issue is cravings. Yep, absolutely. Well, of course, right? And the cravings. But again, the cravings— there's another example. It's just that cravings is just another word. It's a specific word for a specific discomfort. Okay, but what do most dieters do? They just— they expect big cravings. They're literally— they're going 100 miles an hour aiming at the bullseye of big cravings. Subconsciously, you are. When you go on a diet, you are absolutely aiming for the hardest, most difficult, biggest cravings, most stress. You want all of that because you associate that with fast results. And what happens is you get that and you can't stick with it and you quit. But again, an alternative, I'm telling you, you know, you gotta have a little more patience. That's the downside. But it's like, you don't need to have big cravings. I think if you start to have huge cravings, you're doing something wrong. That's what I think. So I like to exist— now again, in Program Yourself Thin, we follow the 1% better a day. Philosophy. So we're not trying— think about it, dieting, you're trying to get 100% better in one day, right? You go from Sunday, you've been out of control for months, Monday I'm going to be absolutely perfect, I'm going to count every single calorie I eat and every calorie is going to be perfect. It's very overwhelming. And so in Program Yourself Thin, we don't do that shit. You're not going to be perfect. You're going to start a whole new meal plan tomorrow. You're going to do what you've done. The difference is going to be you start with a 5-minute hypnosis session in the morning. Relax, calm down, listen to that. We got time. There's no rush. And then at night, you're going to do a 60-second mental rehearsal technique that helps you program your mind to start making real fundamental changes. Now, there's other things in the program, but you take them at your own pace. The program itself then starts right with where you're at in your life. So instead of trying to change everything, we're just going to find a way to be more present and start to change how you think and how you ultimately behave. Right where you are though. And so it's not overwhelming. We're very, very intentional in programming yourself then not to overwhelm ourselves. And dieting is doing the exact opposite. I'm not going to argue which one's better. I'm just going to leave that for you to decide. But has overwhelming yourself to lose weight worked for you? Is it something that you look forward to doing again, or is it something you dread and keep putting off? Do you think that might be a part of why you keep putting off starting your diet or your weight loss plan? Do you think maybe a little bit that when you think about it subconsciously you have a, an avoidance reaction, right? Eating better, doing things to lose weight right here, and as you get close to it, you're like, right? That's what it says. It's, you know, it reminds me of this. So I got these magnetic balls, right? So here they're, they're pull to each other. You see this? Boop, they pull together. But if I flip the poles now, could you see that? They're pushing apart. I can push them together, I'm focusing, but when I just kind of hold them lightly, they push apart. And that's you right now. That, that's you. That's your nervous system. And this is the diet. How come I— I can't get myself to do it? I think about weight loss all day, but I can't get myself to do it. There's almost like this invisible force field preventing you from doing? Well, what that is is that you associate pain— just simplistically, you associate pain in whatever form you experience it, um, when you think about eating better, dieting, losing weight, whatever. And so Program Yourself Thin is very intentional to start at a very simple, easy level. It weaves right into your life, and once you're good with that, we weave another piece in and weave another piece in. But you take your time to do it instead of trying to overwhelm yourself. So I know it sounds crazy for a lot of people, but Um, Jane says, I had a real insight on the weekend after talking to Jim AI and what it was that I've been focused on— the hypnosis as being the magic pill which would finally fix me. But I realize now that no prog— program will work without some work on my part. Drats. Yeah, I love that, Jane. So yeah, that's absolutely true. Everyone in the program pretty much goes through that at some point. That's the, the challenge of hypnosis for me. The biggest challenge I have found doing hypnosis professionally is to overcome people's understanding of it. Because a lot of times people look to it as a magic pill and it's not, it's a supplement. That's how I think of it. I don't think hypnosis alone, I have the number one hypnosis program on the planet for weight loss, Weight Mastery. There's not even a program close to it in terms of depth and, um, you know, and, uh, effectiveness. That being said, I don't think that program's enough to make you a thin, healthy person forever. You've got to participate. It's like college, you know, you can't just listen to, you know, osmosis subhypnosis sessions that put information in your brain and you learn biology. You know what I mean? Like, it can help, it can support you in certain ways, but you also have to do your part and put the work in in order to learn it. And then that, then the hypnosis becomes very helpful supplement. But I think that's a huge realization, Jane. And once you realize that again, and this is part of the process, Jane, it's like every day though, I want you to appreciate, Jane, that while you may not be thrilled that you haven't lost a lot of weight yet, if you look at the speed at which you're becoming aware of how you think about weight and how you're approaching it, I— it's like you're losing 10 pounds a day. It's almost that equivalent. I don't know. And I'm not being dramatic. The way that you keep looking at certain things and you keep having realizations and breakthroughs and awarenesses, that's the mental piece that typically has to happen first before the weight loss happens. I'm not saying it's guaranteed. I'm not— obviously, as people get in the program and start losing weight immediately, okay, but I would say more often than not, people are doing a lot of the mindset work first, and they're getting a lot of shifts in their mindset and then getting a lot of shifts in their lifestyle. And then the eating shifts start to happen naturally, and now they're well supported. And then the real, real weight loss results start showing up. So that's not unusual, Jane. And again, if you can separate what the scale says from what you have been experiencing over the last month, say, or 2 months, however long you've been in the program, but think about how much more awareness you have. Think about how much more stuff you've seen about yourself and how you approach weight loss. And reflect on that, because imagine you'd never learned those things. If you'd never recognized those things, how would you ever have gotten control of your weight? So I want you to really celebrate all the success you've achieved so far, because most of that success— just because it hasn't showed up on the scale doesn't mean it's not dramatic success that's going to lead to the scale. Change doesn't happen all at once. So sometimes we got to do the mindset work first in order for the weight loss results to really show up. And you are doing that, Jane. There's no question about that, right? Yes, Jane says. So now I just have to get down to it. And you are, Jane, by the way. I want you to realize that too. You might be denying a bit of your— the work you've been putting in. And knowing what I know about you, I think you've been putting a lot of work in. I certainly know you've been putting work on in the podcast because you show up and ask questions. And we've been doing work right here. And so I think you're probably not giving yourself quite as much credit either. Um, for how much work you've been putting in. Both can be true, right? I think you've been putting more work in than you're giving credit for, and I think you recognizing that the hypnosis isn't a magic pill can put some more work in too. Both can be true, so great realization. Uh, so Wendy, Wendy says Greek heritage here too. You can never have too many Easters, right? There you go. Yeah, Wendy says I'm just gonna eat really slowly this year. Yeah, eating slow, again, I always say this, I mean, eating slow is probably probably the— probably one of the most helpful strategy shifts you can make in your behavior, I would say, because if you can get yourself to eat slower, kind of naturally, just automatically to some degree, it affects— just statistically, it can reduce your eating by a pretty significant amount. Just, just that alone. So eating slowly is always, I think, well worth your effort and time to focus on for sure. But yeah, if you all got any more questions, feel free to ask them. If not, that's fine too. A lot of work today, a lot of things going on today. So. All right, let's wrap it up. All right, everyone, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. As usual, awesome questions, awesome comments. I really appreciate them every day. And I am here every day, Monday through Friday. I'm here to help you all move past your weight struggles. Give you new perspectives and new ideas, hopefully move in the direction you've been wanting to go for so long and have been unable to do. I'm here every Monday through Friday around noon Eastern. And this is also a podcast. Okay, so if you like this, but you can't make it, you can go to any podcast platform, search Program Yourself, then it'll pop up and go check it out. And if you're not in my world, make sure you go get my free hypnosis session. You can click— if you're in TikTok, click the picture of me up there, go to my bio, and you'll see the link. Click it, it takes 5 seconds. I got a free hypnosis session for you. I'm putting together a new training, it's so good. Um, you'll get that for free. I give you a bunch of free stuff, so you can check that out. And if you're over in Facebook land, uh, or YouTube, you can, uh— I'll put the link in one more time. You can go to this link and sign up for the same thing. There you go. And, uh, yeah. And then what else? Oh yeah, the book. So I do have this book. This is my book, I wrote this book. So it's available now, The Tao of Living at Your Goal Weight. You can get over at Amazon. Um, you get the physical version, I think like $10, $9.99. Uh, the Kindle version is like $2.99. So I'd recommend get the physical one, it's a little bit better. But go check this out, people loving it. Some people say it's the best weight book they've ever read in their lives. So who am I to— who am I to argue with them? So go check it out if you're interested. And, um, yeah, we'll talk soon. Bye everyone.
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