SSP 005: Mindfulness Tips

State shifters podcast episode 5 mindfulness tips.

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Hello, State Shifters. Welcome back. This is episode five of the podcast. Today, Josh and I are going to be talking about some mindfulness tips you can implement throughout your day, particularly during your workday. For me, incorporating mindfulness habits during my workday when I used to work in a corporate job, was a big factor when it came to me getting clear on where my attention was pulled throughout the day. If you're not careful, your work week can turn into an unconscious pattern that you just rinse and repeat because you're doing the same things you bit, you around the same people. And you can easily slip into unconscious behaviors that you just, you don't realize you're on autopilot the whole time. So, you know, mindfulness is just bringing presence into everyday actions. It's being present when you drive the car, it's been present when you're on the train to work. Are you present when you're making your lunch? Are you present when you're filling up your water, when you're drinking, when you're eating? Things like this can really transform your life, like, honestly. So, you know, we give some tips, some little tricks you can use to implement little mindfulness habits, reminders throughout your day. And as you do that, you'll bring more awareness into your life. And with awareness becomes greater clarity, there comes more creativity, there comes a sense of direction. You don't just get pulled around by other people, by other media, by other people's motives. So enjoy the episode and employ some of these, these tactics we recommend. So enjoy, guys. How's it going? Collins, how are you?

Very well, thanks, mate. Nice to hear from you again.

Yeah, likewise, man. It's been a few weeks since our last chat.

Yeah, you've been. Been a bit of a traveler. You've been all over the place.

Yeah, man, here and there. How's life over in Sydney treating you?

Very nice. It's Australia Day. Australia Day. Long weekend at the moment. So nice to have a bit of a relax and just chill out. But yeah, been. Been very nice.

Yeah. Good, good. Oh, yeah, I'm missing. I'm a little bit homesick around this time of the year, especially during Australia Day, because it's all. It's always a fun. It's always a fun time when the weather's warm and you know, that's it, mate.

20, 26, 27 every day, rub it in. Beach time. And I'm heading to the beach tomorrow.

Oh, really?

Solid.

Yeah, I won't be hitting the beach for a very long time. So today's topic I was thinking of addressing just helping people with like mindfulness tips. So ways people can incorporate like mindfulness habits throughout the day, particularly like throughout their work day. Because obviously most people are working during the day throughout the week. So I want to kind of identify particular areas in the day that you can keep mindfulness and presence in mind. So I've maintained some really good habits back home before I moved over to Canada that really improve the quality of my day in my corporate job. So, so I'll start off by asking you, do you have any like, habits, rituals, routines that help you stay mindful or present or aware during the day instead of being caught up in the mind and being stuck on autopilot?

There's a few. I think there's a few. It's a real tough, I was speaking to you before. It's a real tough, real tough situation being in like a busy city or working in like a corporate job or. Because it's automatically, there's automatically external pressures which you wouldn't usually get in other areas of your life where you're trying to be mindful.

Yeah.

So I think it makes it, it definitely makes practicing any form of, you know, calmness or spirituality very, very difficult. I got, I think I actually got a lot of my stuff off of you with your routine. When you, when you're, when you're really locking down a morning routine, I think the more you can, the less you have to think about things like, what did you call it? Decision fatigue. The less you have to think about things in the morning, like even simple things like choice of clothes, choice of breakfast, choice of just these little choices that take up energy that you don't want to use unnecessarily. I think for me, big realizations that I've had around the use of energy is that it's not just physical energy, is that the mental energy constitutes the same whole that overthinking drains you physically and physical drains you mentally like one whole source. So I think trying to reduce the amount of unnecessary energy expenditure during the day so that then you can focus more on the task. One, that means you get it done quicker. But two, just focusing on the fact that you're not thinking unnecessarily throughout the day automatically calms the mind. But I think if there's anything for me, I think it's just taking time out of the day, a couple times a day just to do like a 10 minute meditation, go for a walk or do something that gets you out of that, out of that really cluttered headspace during the day. That's probably my main thing that I do at work for sure.

So at work you'll take like, what, have a two minute break and just go for a quick walk around the office. Like when you say, you know, take a walk, is that like during your lunch break? Do you take breaks like every 30 minutes? Do you kind of just like take a step back?

I probably go, yeah, I have lunch, I have lunch. When I have lunch, I go and sit in the park, I read, listen to it. I listen to an audiobook that's like 45 minutes, which is, I think that actually that's a good point. That's probably one of my, that's probably one of the best things for my day is at lunchtime rather than, rather than sitting in the office, get out, go and sit down. And then, yeah, listening to, listening to audiobooks and I mean, mainly I listen to Eckhart Tolle's stuff during my lunch break. Yeah, it really, really just calms the mind, gets the mind off of work. So I think you have a tendency to, when you're in that, when you're in that work mindset, always be thinking about work. So. So even when you're not at work, you're thinking about what didn't I do, what do I have to do tomorrow, who do I have to speak to? Oh, they're gonna react like this when I tell them that. And you build yourself up all this anxiety about what could, or what might, or what you do have to do tomorrow or in the next hour. And I think trying to take some of that unnecessary thought away so that you're just focusing right now is unbelievably helpful during the day.

Yeah, 100% agree. Like, morning routines, like, for me was like super effective. Like the minute I found a morning routine that worked for me that included like various habits and like rituals like meditating, journaling, you know, going outside, having a reading, stuff like that. The minute like that became like, consistent. And yeah, like you said, I no longer had to think. Like, I found when I got to work, I was already like primed to have a good day. Like, I got to work. Like, I was happy, I was energized, I was focused. And that for me, like, contributed to staying like, aware and not allowing my day to be consumed by my job, essentially. Because when you're at work and you're working behind a computer, it's all mind based. The mind is like completely absorbed by the computer and Whatever work you're doing. So it's very easy to lose track of that sense of mindfulness. So, yeah, like, morning routines are important, but like, I. I've been thinking. Yeah, I know it's really tough when you're working to kind of keep an element of presence while you're working. So, like, what do you know of any other tips that someone could have, like, while actually on the job? Like, I know Echo Tol mentions, like, if you're in an office, try and have like something nature related, like have a little plant next to your desk. It's like a reminder that you know that you can connect with something that's always present. It's like a reminder, like little reminders around the desk, around your workspace that's gonna keep you mindful.

Yeah.

Do you have anything like that that you use?

I remember, I remember. I remember talking about that. Just having like an object that brings you back into the now.

Yeah.

Yeah. I find a lot of time, like people's anxiety at work are based on two things. For me, it's either fear, which is how Western society is usually run on a corporate level, or lack of control. And I find that those two things are the ones that take you out of the moment more than anything else. So for me, I think the most important one for me is. I mean, I suppose you could call it meditation on those two thoughts, but more just understanding that you don't always have to have control of every moment you're in within that workspace, which is a hard thing to do when you're being. Either you're being paid to do a role or you're feeling like there's pressure on you externally to do something, but that kind of realization that if I've done everything I possibly can that's within my control, then I have to let go of anything that's not within my control. Because ultimately that's all that's going to do is build up this pressure and anxiety outside or inside your head, saying, you need to do this or you should have done this, or there's. There's this, this and this to do next. But you can't actually do any of it because it's not, it's not within your actionable, actionable time. And I think a big part, big part that's helped me is just being is just. It's just letting go of that feeling of needing to control everything around me.

Yeah.

Because I know, I observe a lot of the people in my workspace that where control is like, that is how They've got to their position, they've worked their way up by trying to not manipulate but control the scenarios, that it's always in their favor and control things to make sure that they don't feel uncomfortable when going into a situation because they, they own it almost. And I've found that most of the time when I relinquish that control and go into that space of uncertainty in my work, just actively doing what I can do right now to the best of my ability, that's when I attract all of the best things about work that have happened to me over the years almost with zero effort. Yeah, I think, yeah. Like you say having something to do with nature or having something that just brings you into the now. Because at the end of the day, fear and anxiety can't exist in the now, they only exist in the future. So if you can remove that, that mental state of always thinking about what could happen or what should happen and just focus on what is happening, all of a sudden you go, you go into this beautiful space of I suppose, not knowing or just. Yeah, it's really, it's a, it's a cool place to be for sure.

That's really cool. Like other things that you do to make sure, like if you catch yourself being too controlling of a situation, like do you step back and just like realize, oh, like, hold up, I'm getting a bit too caught up in this. Or like, yeah, what are things to do to make that, make you realize that?

And then, yeah, I think I found myself, I found myself doing that with, with fear of. Fear of not doing my job the way I thought people wanted me to. Like I was doing, like I was just doing what, like what I was doing. And then I kept having this fear of, oh, did I do something without, without any, like actual punishment? It was all, it was all self imposed. Did I? Maybe, perhaps I didn't do this correctly or perhaps I could have done this better or what if I didn't do this the way they wanted it to, it might come back and then, oh, then you could get fired or then they could and it's just this spiral of mental projections going on and on in your head. I think, yeah, the best way for me that I found to get around that. Yeah, to get around that fear was just to step back and really like, just think about it. Just think about it from more of a logical perspective. Right. Rather than that reactive emotional perspective thinking, I've done what I've done. It couldn't have happened any other way. I couldn't have done anything else because that was the past. All of these things I'm thinking aren't based on any fact, therefore there's no need to worry. Yeah. I suppose it's just a meditation on that idea. Kind of just stepping back, realizing that all the thoughts that you're having right now are not really a more emotional reactive thoughts rather than, rather than anything based on truth and just. Yeah. And just focusing on that. Focusing on that and accepting the. Accepting that. Accepting. I think that almost fear within work on the level of the mind is quite natural.

Yeah.

Just accepting the fear that you have and just being like that's okay. Like that. Yeah, that's all right. And just letting, letting the fear go. I think I was telling you the practice in that and the practice spiritually over time is getting quicker and quicker at realizing when you're doing that.

Yeah.

Rather than letting the fear like. Rather than. Because one thought leads to another most of the time where it goes, I didn't do this right. That means my boss will be angry. That means I won't get that promotion. That means I won't be able to do this. That means I won't be able to do this. And it like it goes on and on and on with these different thoughts that you have in your head. And by just catching it at the start and just going, hold on a second. These thoughts, none of these thoughts are happening right now. Like none of these situations are actively happening. Therefore none of them are actually real. The only thing that's real is right now. So what can I do that is within my control right now to have an effect on the situation?

Yeah.

I think it's just, it's just, it's just catching that, catching that while it's early on and not. And not letting it spiral out of control.

Yeah. The main, the main thing that I think like everyone should realize is like, like you said, being at work definitely triggers like everyone's gonna have like thoughts about. For me, it's like not doing enough at work. Like, am I doing enough? You know, like, am I? And same as you, it's like, am I doing what's expected of me? I think especially in new jobs, that's a very common fear to have or very common, like yeah. Continuous thought pattern to have. And yeah, I think what you said is a really good way at kind of addressing that is just like remembering that all you can do is what you're doing in this moment and that's enough. And most of the time, yeah, it's all self inflicted stuff. If it's a fear that's kind of bothering someone enough, I think then that's something they should talk about with their superiors or their colleagues to understand better what's expected of them. Because if you're constantly worrying that you're not doing enough, you know, that's something that's. You're either, like, putting too much pressure on yourself or you're just totally caught up in your head and there's no real reason to worry in the first place. So, like, I'm making. Because for me, I had, like, those issues when I first started my corporate job back home. Like, it's a whole new environment and it's a whole new workplace that you're still trying to get a grasp of the job and what's expected. And it can be really, like, overwhelming and like.

I don't know.

I know it's tough for some people. They. Their work day is very stressful. Like, I. And it makes me sad because I don't think anyone should ever stress during their workday because you're there pretty much 80% of your life, and stress has a very big impact on your overall health. So, yeah, if you can't be present in the moment and detach from these thoughts relating to your work, then I think you need to address it and speak to someone about it. Because often speaking about it and understanding better that no one's actually putting pressure on you, it's just yourself, then you're able to kind of, like you said, create that space and just. Just step back for a second. So what about after work? Do you think, like, when you finish work is important to kind of take good habits like evening routine? Do you think that's just as important as a morning routine to making sure you stay kind of grounded? And, you know, a lot of people take their work home. A lot of people keep thinking about work when they finish. Like, how do you stop that?

Yeah, I think you're the same. I'm a big fan of switching off as soon as I've left the office. I don't want to think about it any longer than I need to. Especially like. I mean, it's like I was saying before, it's wasted. It's wasted energy more than anything else. If you've been working for. If you've been working for eight hours. You hear me, Jordan? Yep. Okay. Yeah. If you've been working for eight hours and you go home and then you're thinking about it for another three, but you're not thinking about the actual work, you're thinking about, oh, what I have to do tomorrow, what do I. And what that'll lead to. And then, and then what will my boss think if I don't do this tomorrow? Oh, God, now I'm gonna have to do this as well. There's all this unnecessary thinking that. It's really not aiding in the. It's not aiding the actual work itself. I mean, you can put a plan together for what you want to do tomorrow. Put rough parameters around. I'm going to do this, this and this, and then cut it off. And don't think, oh, how I'm going to do. How am I going to do this the best way and how am I going to do this to make sure it's better than I just find for.

Me.

If I am at the. If I'm at the job for eight hours a day and that's the requirement for me to be there, that's the amount of energy I've put in. I've worked hard that eight hours. I then want to have a space where I can go and clear my head of any unnecessary thought. I think you have to try and get yourself out of that head space as quickly as possible, whether that be connecting with nature, going for a walk, going for a swim, perhaps if you're, if you're, if you're in my climate, maybe not yours, if you're in a. I find at the moment I'm just having a cup of tea and listening to some meditative videos or podcasts or something that just calms the mind. I think it actually has a big effect on then how you perform throughout the week, like the rest of the week. Because I think most people, you find it like heaps of people in jobs just get burnt out because they overwork themselves and they're just crazy. They crazy work themselves. And I. The thing about that is that I don't understand is why they're doing it in the first place. Yeah, because I, I mean, I, I've never been one to work. I mean, I've worked over time, but I've never been one to just absolutely smash as much work as I can to. I suppose I'm not sure if it's to impress someone or if it's to prove to themselves that they're good enough to do. To do this work or to do extra work than other people. Or maybe it's a challenge. Maybe people see it as a challenge. What's your take on that? Why do you think people work extreme overtime?

Oh, mate, I've seen it firsthand. Back at Deloitte, back home.

Yeah. Yeah.

Accounting firms, especially as when you come in as a grad, I think there's an expectation that you need to impress. There's an expectation that you need to do extra work to prove that you're valuable. And a lot of grads put all this, like, pressure on themselves, not. Not just graduates. It's also, like, seniors trying to impress their. Their superiors. Like, putting extra work, thinking that people are looking down on them, thinking that they're not doing enough or they should be doing this. It's all, like, thinking that other people are expecting things of them, when most of the time, it's the complete opposite. It's all pressure on. You're putting pressure on yourself. And they, like, take on extra work because they feel like they're fearing that their managers are not happy with what they're doing or they're not doing enough. And it's like, they end up working crazy hours. And I was the same as you. I was like, I'm. I will literally work better if I clock off on time and go home and do my stuff and come back fresh the next day. So, yeah, I mean, I think everyone. If it's a serious thing, man, overworking is. You know, it's excessive workaholism. Like, people just spend too much time at the office. Like, it's. I don't know what that is. Maybe they're trying to. It's either fear or maybe they have, like, some external goal they're trying to reach. But from my experience, like, I was never effective past, like, 5:36 at work. My. The quality of my work dropped off. My focus was down, My attention and concentration was down. Like, it made no sense to me to hang around. So.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was an interesting thing. I asked my dad once. It was the c. He's a CEO at a corporation where he had 200 staff under him.

Yeah.

And I said, like, did you ever expect people to work, like, overtime? Like, what was your take on overtime? And he was like, all right. I mean, I used to stay back because, you know, because he was quite high up. He had. He had large pieces of work that he had to finish. Yeah. But he's like. He's like, I never expected anyone under me to stay if they didn't want to.

Yeah.

And he said, people. People chose to stay. That was their decision. But I never forced them to stay.

Amazing.

And I was thinking from his. From his perspective, like, that he never thought. He never asked them to stay. But then from the people below him, I'm thinking perhaps they thought, oh, if I don't stay, he'll be mad. Or if I don't stay, if I don't stay, maybe, maybe I'll be, maybe I'll. There'll be ramifications or maybe someone else will get the promotion above me. Or, you know, like, yeah, I find that great. And then, but then what's the purpose of that? Like, I've told you the analogy before of king of the hill. Remember playing king of the hill as a kid?

Yeah.

You've got to get to the top of the jungle gym, you've got to get to the top of the climbing gym. And as soon as you're there, you've got, you know, five or six people climbing up the jungle gym trying to, trying to tear you down, trying to get, trying to get you off the top. So as soon as you get to the top, you're, you're like, you're scared.

You're here.

All these people that are going to try and drag you down. So what's the actual purpose of getting there in the first place? Yeah, if, if all, if all it leads to is additional fear and anxiety that other people are out to get you. Yeah, I don't know. It's a, it's a, it's an interesting, it's an interesting topic.

So what would be, what would be your tip for someone who finds himself working more hours than they should? Would it be.

Yeah, I think they have to question why. Yeah, like, I think you just have to question themselves, like, why am I doing this? And I mean, I can't. That's a, that's a question that I can't answer each other. Each individual person has to answer that for themselves. But if it's, if it's, I work more so that I can get, so that I can get the promotion or so that I can get the validation, or so that I can get, you know, more money.

Yeah.

Once again, why, why, why is that? Why do those things? Why do you want those things? Yeah, why, why, why are those, why do you place value or importance on those things? I think down to the bottom of it, it's almost always based on either fear or control. Either fearing that if you don't have that you'll be diminished in some sense, or without having that, you will lose control of the situation or you won't have control over that, over your life situation. And then I just think you have to think about, once again, why do you need those things? I think it just comes down to the point that once you question yourselves enough, you realize that none of what you're chasing is actually necessary for your overall happiness. And based on that standpoint, it becomes illogical more than anything else.

Yeah, it's true. That's like. Yeah, I think that's a freeing thought. When you realize that you don't need, you don't need. You know, once you reach a certain amount of income, there's not much else above that that can really fulfill you any more than what you already can.

Yeah, well, but it's not, it's like, like, you know, it's funny because I was trying this conversation with one of my bosses who was like, very money, very money motivated. You see like all these people, man. Like there's so many case studies of people that have money that still aren't happy yet people still chase it thinking it'll bring them happiness. And I suppose it gives you some level of security in the world we live in. I mean like, there's a big middle ground where you can be comfortable. Like obviously on the lower scale it's hard to be comfortable if you don't have money. But like, yeah, there's all these, all these people that have got to the top and have realized that it's not what they want yet. It's still such a, it's still such a, such a thing that people want to chase after. I just find it very interesting.

Yeah, it's funny you say that like, because at my work now, so I know for people who don't know who are listening probably since our last chat I've like got a new job working at a, you know, like a mindful healing center or a technology center that helps people meditate. So we have like a lot of people come in from all sorts of backgrounds, from all sorts of occupations. And I'm amazed at the amount of high level executives, high level managers, business owners that come in who make felt like, man, these people. I've had the head of investment banking for one of the biggest banks here in Canada come in. So this guy must have been on make big money. And they come in and they just, and they're not happy. Like, they come in, they, they're trying to find meaning because they're, they're completely unfulfilled by their job, even though they're making crazy amounts of money. And it's just like almost like what is going on here? There's just so many people coming in that have literally just saying, I'm not happy with my life. And yeah, they have everything they want but they're still not satisfied.

So I think that's an important point, man.

It's like a reminder. Reminder. Like it, like if you still think you need to chase money when clearly you can use other people as an example that it's not making them happy, then you might, you need to reassess.

I think that's, that's like an important point of, like that all bases on, on what they saw as success. If they see success as getting to the top of a corporation, being the general manager of business, earning X amount of money, if that's what they've seen as successful or has been told to them as successful, then that's what they'll chase. So I think first things first, if you're wanting to improve your work life, define your own success. Yeah. Define how. Don't, don't, don't. Don't just take what other people tell you is success. Because in a Western civilization, it's earning as much money as possible is success. But if that for you, that might not be. That might not be your goal, that might not be what you want to achieve. If I think that was a big shift for me, I've always known that. I've never been that motivated by money. I've been happy to live off whatever I can. Whatever, whatever job I've got, I'm happy to live off that. And my motivation has always been to help as many people as possible live happier lives. So if I can find a work that aligns with that, considering in the world we live in, you have to have some form of living. If I can find a job that incorporates both working and being able to achieve my version of success, that's the key goal to me. Being happy, I would say, which. And you've found it, man, you've got there.

Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say, like, I'm fully there because I still think there's always. You identify your dream job and then the minute you think you get it, there'll always be something you, like, criticize about your work.

But that's funny. That's funny.

But like, like you said, I think be constantly reminding yourself to go back to the things that you stand for. And for me, it was like, intentions and like, goals for my day. And like mine, I always write mine down. It's always, you know, like, yeah, I want to help someone have a better day or I want to stay connected to myself or stay connected to something greater than myself and like, using that as my primary intentions for the day instead of like, make money or achieve certain external things. It always keeps you on the right path and then you know no matter what job you do, you're always going to have shit days. Like, but since, since I changed jobs and now I'm working in an area where I'm like working with people and I'm working with like helping people. Yeah, like same as you. Like live a better life instead of. Now I know it's no longer about money for me. Now I'm no longer at my job solely for the purpose of making money, which is what it was before. And it's, I can't tell people enough how amazing it is. Like it's, it's crazy, mate. And I got no doubt that I took a big pay cut for this job. But I got no doubt money will come in long term. But the important thing is that like you're fulfilled by your work on a day to day.

So how did you. Because I think a lot of what a lot of people like what you did that a lot of people wouldn't have done is overcome that fear to leave a position into that unknown spectrum of what might come. Considering you didn't know what you were going to get. How did you make that leap that I feel like a lot of people struggled to do?

Yeah, like I, I knew what I wanted, I knew what I knew. Before I left my job I already identified the area of work that made me come alive, the work that I was passionate about. And when I came out to Canada, I sourced work based on that fact, like Law of Attraction. I was essentially like, I know I'm going to attract something into my life because I'm going to give off this energy. As woo woo as that sounds, it freaking happened because things fell into place where I was connected with certain people that opened up doors in this area which, you know, I doubted it a few times, like it wasn't easy. But the fear of the unknown kind of goes away if you believe strongly enough in yourself and the power of your own energy that you give off.

I think that's another good point. I just remembered as well, I think it'll help. I'm not helping people that help me. I think is just when you do set goals or you have intentions or you do that type of thing, it will make you infinitely more satisfied and happy if you don't have attachment to the result of what happens. So your favorites made Deepak Chopra that says intention is desire without attachment to the result. And I think if you, if. Because I mean technically if you look at it, anything that you desire, you can desire, you can desire, you know, whatever you want. And the Buddha said that suffering, desire is the source of all suffering because suffering is inherently there because of your attachment to the result of getting whatever you desire. And as soon as you don't get it, suffering will automatically happen. Intention, however, is slightly different because you, as you say, send off your energy into the universe, you give off your intent, but you don't attach your happiness to the outcome of getting it.

Yeah.

And I've found that, man. I've. That's. I mean, that's a. That's a hard thing to comprehend. I think it's almost impossible to comprehend. I only. I only. I only got it once it started happening. Yeah. And it. I could not believe how once it happened once, I could not believe how much it happened again.

Dude, I'm not like.

Again, like, just. Yeah, and. And because you're not. Because you. Because you don't care if it happens. Like, you don't. You don't. Your happiness isn't sourced between. Isn't sourced based on the outcome.

Yeah.

So it's. It's. It doesn't. It doesn't phase you anymore. And it's like. It's like. It's almost like. The analogy I would use is like, you give it a. Give a child a toy, right? And then I start playing with another toy, and all of a sudden the kid wants the toy I've got, not the toy that it's got anymore.

Yeah.

It's like. It's like you just do what you're doing, and the child comes to you because it wants what you've got. It's like you just attract the things that you want by just doing what you're doing, not actually caring about if you get it or not.

Exactly. That's. That's. Yeah, that's. That's so powerful, I reckon, like, to recap all of this because I've got to get going soon.

I got to get it working. Yeah.

But to recap all this, I actually think that's probably one of my number one mindfulness tips is, number one, realizing your source of happiness. And if you realize it's coming from money, then you need to reassess. And then secondly, writing down your intentions, whether it's weekly, I preferably like to do it daily. But write down your intention for the day, for the week, and then for maybe the year, and then for the next 10 years, where would you like to direct your energy? And then, like you said, detach from the outcome, and then watch the magic happen. So by writing it down, you kind of. You keep it in your subconscious. That's how I feel. And as long as it's not something that's materialistic or external, I mean, you can have intentions that are external, but you need to realize that it's never really going to make you truly happy. They start to manifest themselves. And they might not happen instantly, but in time, like you said, by just doing what you're doing and being mindful and present each day, the things that you want will come.

And just to recommend a book at this time as well that covers pretty much all of this is Deepak Chopra's seven Spiritual Laws of success. Yeah, it covers pretty. It covers pretty much all of everything that we just spoke about.

Like, yeah, is that Deepak or Is that Don McGraw?

No, that's Deepak.

That's Deepak.

Yeah. Yeah, man.

I might reread that one because I remember it's been a long time since I've read that one. I feel like it got a really good fundamental lessons in there.

Yeah, man, it just. It basically lays out seven. Seven fundamental things to that, all based on the law of attraction and the detachment from. From your desires. It's pretty. Pretty special.

Amazing. Well, mate, thanks again for another great episode. It's been good.

Yeah. Mate, nice chatting with you.

Yeah, likewise. Oh, have a good evening and we'll speak again soon.

Thanks, man. Have a good day work.

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