SSP 016: Yasmin Eve – Re-write The Stories That Hold You Back

State shifters podcast episode 16 with Yasmin Eve.

Welcome to the State Shifters Podcast.

Welcome back to the State Shifters Podcast. My name is Jordan Kanlish, and I'm here because I'm going to give you the information you need to inspire you to take action on becoming the highest version of yourself. So I bring on guests of this podcast to inspire me who have basically motivated me and helped me become the best version of myself each and every single day. So I've met lots of people while I've been traveling through Canada. I've met people online. And today's guest is someone who we connected online a few. A few quite a few years ago. And I've had her on Facebook, but haven't actually connected with her in person. But I've seen her grow and progress down a very similar path to what I've taken, which is doing the inner work to figure out who we really are. So Yasmine Eve is her name, and Yasmin has transformed her world and now is helping people uncover the limiting beliefs that hold them back. I guess that's one of my favorite things about when you start to acknowledge who you really are and you do the inner work and you start to speak your truth, you attract the same people into your life who are following their truth. And Yasmin is one of these people, and I'm very excited to bring her onto the show and the interview. We kind of COVID a lot of topics because we just, we're just vibing off each other. It was really great to chat to a like minded person, similar age, but also getting a female's perspective, because Yasmin works a lot of women and she does her work through the holistic hub in Perth. And it's really about empowering people to uncover the stories that are holding them back from becoming the best version of themselves. So in this episode, we cover a lot of different things, like how Yasmin came to her spiritual awakening, how we define who we are through the thoughts that we have and how we can break through these limiting beliefs. Also the impact that meditation has had on Yasmin and me, dissolving some of these limiting beliefs. We cover things like morning routines and rituals, nutrition, and some of the challenges we face about being open and vulnerable online. So there's plenty of good information here and I'm really excited to share this one with you guys. So enjoy the episode. Okay. Yasmin Eve, welcome to the Day Shifter's podcast. It's an absolute pleasure to have you with me and you're on the line From Bali, Indonesia. How's Bali?

Yes, I am. Hello. It's really, really good. It's super warm and humid, which I love. My body definitely needs a break after being in, like 4 degrees temperature every day. It's definitely a contrast, definitely.

So it's a per. You're from Perth as well, so we'll give a little bit of background here. People who don't know who you are, you're a. I would say, life coach, a breakthrough coach. And you basically help people, mainly women, break through the barriers of the beliefs that hold them back from becoming the best version of themselves. And you've been a coach for a couple of years now?

Yeah, so about a year and a half now I've been doing coaching in this sort of setting, but prior to that, I've kind of been health coaching for a really long time. So like about three and a half, four years. So coaching's definitely been sort of my jam for a while.

Yeah, yeah.

But, yeah, I'm in Perth at the moment, but soon to live in New Zealand. Making the big move. But, yeah, a lot of what I do is just basically helping people remove a lot of their limiting beliefs and conditions that all of us as humans kind of carry from a really young age. So, yeah, that's just been one of the best things I've ever done, like help people with. Because it unlocks a lot of potential and unlocks a lot of momentum for people and helps them really find what they're excited about, which is really important.

Yeah, I think it's amazing. I think we're just speaking offline and I was telling you how I had Jennifer Merrifield on the last episode and she's a transformation coach and a personal excellence coach. I was explaining how I've had some experience with coaching and I know how powerful it is and how amazing and quickly the results come when you have someone there that's able to guide you into this deep, dark world of the subconscious as you start to uncover these beliefs. So I think we'll get back to how you started coaching, but we're roughly the same age and I think as I was thinking about how we met, I think it was on Tinder. The dating.

Yeah. So funny.

How funny is that?

How's the world?

I remember we must have just added each other on Facebook. And then later down the track, I've seen you posting all this stuff about similar stuff that I'm. I'm into, and I'm like, what. What's going on there? We're gonna have to link up at some point. So how about. It is. It's amazing. I love it. How about you explain to me how this all started? Like, how did you have. Because I remember watch, watching or following you online and you were into, I think you were in personal training. Was it like exercise? You're into exercise?

Yeah.

How did this shift come about where you've decided to now take this direction and pursue the type of work that you do now?

I'd say it was a very gradual progression into what I do. But then I think there was like this sort of tipping point that I got to. And then it was kind of like I just snapped and was like, I need to just do this. But basically. So I was a PT for a really long time working with women, mostly fat loss, all of those sorts of things. But I find that when I do things I get really into them. So I really try and find out all the bits and pieces that form that result. Or like. So it wasn't just about the exercise, but then I was like, how can I help people with their hormones? How can I help people with what they're eating to better get their results? And how can I help them in every area to make sure that they're going to get the best results they can for their body physically and throughout that. It was kind of also a long, my own personal journey of going from being super physically driven and I guess focused to then realizing I think there's more underneath the surface that's really at play here as well, that's determining whether I'm successful or not with my body, but with anything. So that's what sort of got me questioning. Why is it that some people get really good results that I'm training and other people don't? And what are they doing behind the scenes that I can't see? That's not helping. And where does that come from? And then where does that thing come from? So it was like this kind of real rabbit hole moment for me that I started to delve into and I was like, wow, this is a lot bigger than I thought. A lot of mindset stuff. But then where did that come from? Where did that person get that belief that they're not good enough or not worthy of having a good body? Or like if they. Some people had this belief that if they were to get their dream body, they would be criticized and bullied. So that sort of mentality, it was like, where does that actually come from? And it's not just a thought. Like, this is obviously such a strong held belief for Someone because it's causing them so much distress and disharmony in their life, it's really stopping them from doing things. So I started to sort of do a lot of research by myself. And I guess as the universe is, it throws you things you're ready for. So on my Facebook, I saw this guy pop up, Paul Alessio. He's been my coach teacher for nlp and he was running a course. So I just hit him up and I was like, hey, what's this NLP thing? I see you're getting really good results and people are loving it. People really talking about it. At that time, I started to kind of build a bit of momentum in Perth. So I was like, I'd really love to be a part of this. I really want to get better results for my clients. Can we tee up a chat? So literally straight away, he got on the phone and we were chatting and he asked me some pretty deep questions as well, which I hadn't really asked myself. And that was really cool for me to be asked questions that I wasn't really asking for myself. And so he also kind of asked, well, I love that you want better results for your clients, but what do you want out of this? And I was like, oh, cool. So it kind of opened up a whole new world for me. And then going along and doing that course, the first level for the practitioner course, that was like the most mind blowing experience of my life. Like, it was seven days of being broken through and getting down to the bottom of your beliefs and breaking those and just getting rid of all this junk that you thought was real. It's crazy. And by the end of that, I was just like, I know what I want to do. I only want to do this. This is all I want to help people with. Because it's so potent, it helps people in whatever they want, so why not just do that? So that's kind of how it went.

Yeah, it's amazing. I think that's why your story resonated with me so much is because, like, it was very similar to me. Like, I was into fitness and exercise, I would work out all the time and I had all these like, physical goals. Like, I would always work out to look good. And I remember that, like, yeah, there was a time that came, I was like, okay, like, what's the end goal? Like, if there's, if you're working out for the appearance or the look of working out, you're constantly, like, you're constantly chasing something, you never actually arrive at the satisfaction of being okay. With who you are. So I started to look within. I was like, why? Yeah, why am I, why am I, why am I working? Like, what's the goal here? And it went beyond the physical. And that's the key component, I think, which you went through as well. You start to look beyond the body and mind is like, who actually am I beneath all that?

And it's odd questions. Yeah, totally resonating. So, yeah, because that's it. Like, sorry, go. I definitely feel that I lived a lot of my life prior to this. Constantly chasing something. Constantly chasing and never really being satisfied. Happy. And it actually wasn't. I had like a really pretty, like big wake up call, I think was when a really close person to me actually just died suddenly. Like was in a car crash and died. And I remember, like, it kind of hit me and I like woke up one day and I was looking in the mirror and I was like, the fuck is wrong with me? Like, I can't live my life not being happy with who I am because it's a bit of a waste to me. I was like, that's a waste. Like, do you know what I mean? I think that, like, it just sometimes those sorts of moments just like you just flick a switch and you're like, okay, this is not the way to live anymore.

Most definitely. Those wake up calls often come as like blessings in disguise really, don't they? And yeah, it's amazing.

Majorly.

It's amazing when you look back on how powerful a shift can happen when you, when you trace it back to one particular moment. So for you, I guess, was, was there a specific moment in time where you had, like, people say, spiritual awakenings or realizations where you went, holy shit, like it just clicked and then your life trajectory changed. Was there a certain moment in time where that happened or was it gradual?

I love this question because I was like, I saw it this morning and I was like, oh, this is a good one. So funnily enough, I thought, so this, this is something I'm learning a lot at the moment is. So I've been listening to a few books actually on the nature of awakening. There's one called the End of youf World. I think you've, you've read that maybe. The End of youf World by Adi Ashanti.

Oh, Adyashanti.

Yes.

I've listened to a few of his podcasts. Don't think I've read the book though, but please keep it.

Okay, beautiful. So this book, like, literally started getting me thinking a totally different way to the way I've been thinking, but again, so useful and like perfect timing. But basically I had thought that maybe had had that moment where I was like sort of awakening and I had that sort of push out. I think I've had a lot of moments in life that have been pretty full on and have sort of woke me up completely, if that makes sense. So like, I think things have been catalyst for me to make more changes in my life and refine the way I'm living and the way I'm living in alignment with myself. But I don't think up until really recently I don't think I actually did have it. I thought I had because I am quite spiritual, I'm very open and very much self aware and all this stuff. But I actually don't think I did up until literally a couple months ago. I think that's when it all really started to happen for me. And it was. It's actually been pretty fucking full on and one of the most like challenging but awesome times ever. Like it's something that I feel like you. I literally feel like there's been a part of me literally dying and breaking away. Like it's been pretty brutal. Like a lot of the ego stuff has come up for me. Realizing a lot of the ways that I was living was still very much ego driven and very much from that space. And I'm not negating the ego at all. Like I'm not on a journey to get rid of it or anything like that. I could really do have a very balanced approach towards it, but realized how much I was actually living in alignment with that and not my heart and my authentic self. And that was a really big realization for me and very hard to accept at first. So I had a lot of resistance towards it and I didn't really want to accept it. I kept trying to sort of push past it, go around it and not really address it. But I think those things again have a way of smacking you in the face. Until like literally, like I just had weird scenario after weird scenario happen constantly. Like it was like just one disaster after another. Chaos was just surrounding me. It was really bizarre. And like I remember talking to my mom at the time and literally every second day I'd call her with something else that was going on and she was like, are you freaking for real? Like you are like a magnet for shit right now. Literally. And that's how I felt. I was like, I don't know what the hell is going on, but I'm literally attracting so much shit right now it's awful. And I'm like, what is it about me? Why am I attracting this? Like, you go through this whole thing, you think, oh, my God, I'm just so. You know, I don't know anything. And it really, like, tears you up. And then I just had this moment where just literally. I think I stopped resisting because I literally had no more energy to resist anything. I was like, fuck it. You know what? If this is going to happen, fine, let it happen. It doesn't matter anymore. And I literally remember just. I just started to. I don't know, something just popped into my head. I was like, you just need to sit still now. Like, just sit in it. Stop, like, running from it. Just sit in it. And I started to just sit in it. I literally started to wake up in the morning and just sit and not think and not do and just, like, be in that really uncomfortable place. And I think that's what started to really shift. And once I sat in it, things were just happening so quickly, and I was like, whoa. Like, I think you just find this really awesome amount of, like, contentment in nothing. That's kind of what it felt like.

Yeah, that's super powerful.

Because everything stripped back into that.

I mean. Yeah, again, resonates with me so much because often the hardest times, the most challenging times, that's where, like, the opportunity to go deeper is there, if you're willing. And same thing happened to me when I. When I moved out to Canada. Probably my most challenging time was finding a job. I had, like, two, two or three months, probably. You know, in the grand scheme of things, it's not really that big of a deal compared to what some other people go through. But for me at the time, it was a tough thing because I wasn't sure where I was going to make money, and I was getting stressed out, and I was challenging. I did the same thing as you. I would just sit and meditate on it and just peel back the layers of this story that I was creating. And I remember a specific time when I broke through and just. I let go of this weight that was, like, pulling me down, and I stepped into this lightness, this freedom that I just let go of this pain or this resistance to what was. And that's when opportunities just popped up. And I know the same thing happened for you, and that's. And that's such a. I guess we can touch on meditation a little bit later on, because I know my listeners know how much I harp on about meditation, how much I love meditation, and I Know, you're the same. You're big on the meditation as well. But I actually, I wanted to, because I love asking people this question. And on your. I think it's your Facebook page or your website header, I'm not sure, but it says, who would you be without your thoughts? And I really like that question. And I want to ask you, to ask you that question. Who are, who are we without our thoughts?

I love that. Thank you for asking. You know, it's kind of a very. It's actually a really deep question, isn't it?

It is. And in, in, in retrospect, it is almost an impossible question to answer because the minute you answer it, we've kind of. You've lost the. Yeah.

You can kind of go against it. It's quite contradictory. So I'm going to probably contradict myself with everything I say anyway. And I'd say like, even in like a few months, I'll like talk to you again and be like, oh, everything I said was like, pretty much bullshit.

Yeah, me too.

Believe something new now. So. But yeah, I feel like, you know, on a surface level, who are you without your thoughts? Well, you're. You. I guess you're a lot more free to be whatever and whoever, if that makes sense. So it's kind of unlimited or limitless. It's. It's anything and everything or it's nothing, basically. Right. And I think, yeah, like, that's one thing I think most people feel held back by is that they're living in alignment with who they think they are. And that's not even who they are. Do you know what I mean? And that's a total construct. And so it's like if I didn't have all these thoughts, then I would probably be exactly who I wanted, you know, and whoever that might be. And then now, going on an even deeper level, it's like, I guess you're less you and you're actually just more like we. I guess you're less of just a one person identity. And then you become actually. Well, I'm kind of part of something bigger. So you kind of almost open yourself up to a greater experience of connection and greater experience of life itself. Right, Great. That's kind of how I'd answer it right now.

I think you answered that very, very well to answer something that's almost unanswerable because the minute we use language, we have missed the point because.

Totally.

Yes, but insane.

My words are just directing you to something.

Exactly. They're just signposts. And. But my favorite part about that was, is the question itself. And I think that for me was when the minute I started asking that question, it's like, who am I if I'm not my thoughts, I'm not my body. Who actually am I? And it's the question. That question begins a path within, and it begins a road to you doing the inner work. And I guess people are listening to this podcast, are the ones that are starting to ask these type of questions, and. And powerful stuff starts to happen. Why do you think it's so important that people should ask themselves that question?

One is because I feel that a lot of people don't ever contemplate or actually stop long enough to listen to what they're actually thinking. Like, everything's so unconscious, so automatic, so crazy. Like, people don't actually know what the hell they're even thinking about themselves. That's like, what it comes down to at the end of the day is like, like, And I'm not generalizing, but a lot of people don't even know what they're thinking. They're just constantly thinking of something. But also, like, there are going to be a lot of stories that people are, you know, telling themselves or thoughts. Right. That they're thinking about themselves, that they don't actually want to admit to themselves that they're thinking about, if that makes sense. So it's kind of also a question that asks you to start to become a little bit more vulnerable and real with yourself first. Because if you can't, like, really admit, hey, actually, you know what? I actually do think this about myself, even if I don't want to, even if I resent that, even if I'm angry about that or I hate the fact that I think that about myself. If I can't own that yet, then I'm not going to be able to transform that or change it or let it go. I don't even know if that answered your question.

No, it did, because it's. Yeah, that's the awareness. The first level of awareness is realizing that, yeah, I have all these stories that I'm creating. It's the noticing that's the first step and noticing these stories. And that's why, you know, I've dug into your content. I absolutely love the videos and the posts you. Right, because. Because you write about exactly that. These. These stories that we have that we're all. We're all telling ourselves. We all have this mental construct of who we think we are based on how we think others perceive us. So it's like we live in Like a perception of a perception which is like, this trippy reality that we live in because none of us are actually living from our essence. We're like walking projections of what we think other people think who we are. So that's why I love the work that you do. It's breaking through these stories and getting to the root cause of, like, what makes us who we are. And I guess, do you. Where do you start when someone comes in? I think, again, I think if the minute someone starts to tune into this kind of stuff or starts to read your post or watch your videos, there's an opening that's starting to emerge. There's something there that's starting to emerge. The people who are completely unconscious. I think it's not our responsibility to try and change them or try and pull them into this kind of inner work.

Yeah.

It's the people who are starting to wake up and realize, okay, I'm sort of stuck in this perception of perception, and I'm not happy with the way my life is. If someone comes to you and then, yes, Yasmine, I'm struggling. Like, I want to get over this anxiety. I want to get past this limiting belief that I'm not good enough or whatever it may be. How do you then begin. How do you then begin to help someone who's ready?

It's a pretty. Well, I guess it just depends. Everyone is so different. It depends how. I guess if people are coming to me with that, but they're only just starting to become quite aware of themselves and their thoughts, then oftentimes I have a sort of. I guess I just throw in the idea that perhaps they've also got a lot more beneath the surface, even beyond what they think is their problem right now as well. So, like, a lot of people say, you know, got this anxiety. I just really need to, like, break through, or I'm not confident. Right. But that could be so much more. Like those, you know, anxiety or lack of confidence, they're such broad things, and they entail, like, so much is part of that in a way that it's kind of, like, cool. So it's really just the first step is just helping them sort of dig a little deeper and find more connections of where does that come from? Where does that come from? Where does that come from? And why is that a problem? Basically, and it's helping them get to deeper causes for themselves and to find how, like, events in their life have shaped them and linked back into the problem that they're here for. Does that make sense? So It's a lot of sort of questioning is a big one. And it's getting people to think beyond what they already think and about the actual presenting issue for them as well, and to understand what really is the problem behind that. Because a lot of people just think, oh, like, this is my problem, and that's all it is. And then they don't realise that something so little or something kind of big. Right. Because some things can feel quite weighted, can also be part of something much, much bigger and much, much deeper and something even so deep, like, you know, really at the core of something for someone. It could just be like, I'm just so scared to be abandoned because that's what happened when I was a kid or. And that could be what's creating this whole, like, you know, layer on layer on layer on layer to cause this anxiety for them. And it's not even really about anxiety. It's about being in fear of feeling something that's so hard for a human to feel, especially as a child, that they can't consume. So it's actually about, yeah, bringing awareness. And then from there it's helping them to consume the emotions they haven't consumed, to go in and actually process and let go of those things because they're what drives us. We live as a projection, like, we live through our wounds, right? We make decisions, we act from that place. And if we can't heal that, we can't resolve that. We're just walking wounds, like, and we're just creating more and more pain for ourselves and driving it in deeper and deeper and deeper. And that's, I think, what people don't realize is, like, once you start unraveling it, like, there's so many more layers underneath that. And I think, you know, it takes a lot of courage, you know, a lot of people that come through, I'm always like, you know, I'm so proud of you and I'm so, you know, inspired by you, because this is tough stuff. Like, this isn't just today. I'm just going to let go of anxiety and that's it, that's the end, Goodbye, see you later, and move on. It's like you're starting something so much bigger than that and it's just going to keep going.

That's what coaching did to me. That's. And I'm sure a lot of your clients are like that as well. It's like, I thought I had this stuff figured out. Like, all of a sudden I know I'm on awareness. Like, I'm not Actually, my thoughts started coaching and I started realizing, holy shit. There's a. There are so many things that I'm. I'm just carrying around that I didn't even realize. And again, the work that you do, having a coach brings awareness to these things, to these stories. It's like you're. It's like a torch and you're just shining the light on these dark areas in the subconscious that you're. Holy shit. I've been carrying this story that's holding me back this whole time. Whether it's not having enough, like, fear around not having enough money or not thinking good enough. And you can date it back to childhood stuff, but in reality, it all gets dissolved through the light of awareness in the present moment. And I love that work that you do. And I'm sure your clients are just amazed to see when someone's there to support them, how quickly they. These things dissolve. And for you, what are the things you recommend? Like meditation being one of them. And I know how powerful meditation is for me. What sort of impact has meditation had on your life?

It's had a significant impact. And it's really, you know, I've had a funny relationship with meditation. That's what I call it, my little relationship with it. Because there have been moments where I've just totally tossed it aside and thought, I don't need this, you know, like, I'm good. I feel really, you know, on top. I'll just go for, you know, a couple weeks or something without it. And then I get to this point where I'm kind of like a little bit chaotic and scattered and just like really not centered or not grounded. And I can't seem to pin down ideas and I can't really seem to focus. And for me, my nature's very sort of fast paced and almost a little bit scattered anyway. Like, I'm just that sort of. Me as a person, very. Like there's lots of ideas and there's lots of energy around it and there's, you know, I'm constantly sort of doing things and moving from one place to the next. And I used to kind of deem that as a bad thing, but now I really embrace it and love that. I mean, it works for me. It works for me, so I'm fine with that. But when I don't really take time to ground myself, I find that really doesn't work well with me. So for me, meditations help me really ground ideas better and focus in and sort of stop the noise, but also listen to what's really there, because I feel that, you know, within all of us, we all have a deepest wisdom, right? We all have a sort of inner wisdom that we can't always hear, even though it's there. And so for me, it's kind of. I use meditation as a way to tap into that place and to really get, you know, connected with my essence. If I'm feeling a little bit off or I'm feeling like I'm not really in alignment, just feeling like things are a little bit off kilter, then that's my way to get back in and sort of feel more yet aligned and centered with that place, because that's where I work my magic. You know, that's where my magic comes alive, is when I'm in that space. And so I realized that even though sometimes I resist it, it's usually for a reason. I'm resisting because there's something probably there to come up for me because, you know, meditation has brought up so much stuff. Even, you know, emotion and old things I didn't even know were there just popped up randomly from just being in the moment, which has been epic. So, yeah, that's what it's done for me.

Was there a specific reason that drew you to meditation? Was it just curiosity, or is there something that drew you to meditation initially when you first started?

Well, interestingly enough, like, when I was growing up, my was really big into meditation at the time. Like, I think back in, like, the 90s and the early 2000s. I don't know if you're aware of this, but there was, like, a lot of people doing, like, sort of meditation groups. So, like, people would go, like, come together and do, like, meditation nights and stuff. So I remember, like, once a week, always going along with my mom. I was like, maybe 4 or 5 years old, and we'd be going to these meditation nights with, like, this whole group of people, and we'd be, like, doing group meditation. So I've always understood that it might be good for me or, like, it has some sort of relevance. But growing up, I sort of, sort of rejected all of that stuff for a while. And then when I started to become more interested in the mind and how it worked, I think it was like, you know, part of the trend of personal development. Everyone's saying, you know, get this Headspace app and meditate is really good for you. So I was like, okay, I'm going to get the app, and then I'm going to meditate, and it's going to be really good. And I'm just going to be so functional. And I really didn't resonate with that, to be honest. When I first started, Headspaces didn't do it for me. It's a really great platform for a lot of people. But for me I was like, I just need something deeper than this. So I just did a lot of like playing around and just. Yeah, I don't know what it was really. I just. Something in me was just like, you need to do this. So I was like, okay, I'll do it.

Good on you. So what's your meditation routine like now? And if. Do you have any advice for people who may be starting out meditation or may struggle to get a consistent routine down, maybe you can enlighten us on your routine and any tips for others.

So at the moment my routine is I actually wake up and then I do like a little bit of movement, whether that's like a bit of stretching or a little bit of a yoga flow, some sun salutations, just something real simple. But just to get the body moving. Or I might just jump in a cold shower or something just to get in my body a little bit. And I find that helps me just sort of. It stops any sort of unnecessary chatter in my mind by just actually being a little bit in my body first for me personally and then so like maybe 10, 15 minutes of that. So only a little bit like smaller if I have time. Like for instance, now that I've been in Bali, been doing a lot more. So getting up and doing like a nice hour, 90 minute practice of yoga, just something to get me moving. And then I'll sit and just sort of. Either it'll be like a contemplation sort of meditation, or it might just be being really present and not thinking, just sort of catching between thoughts. So like being in that space or even sometimes I do a bit more of a visualization if I'm sort of not feeling that present and in the moment, that sometimes helps. But yeah, I think with meditation I found. And then I'll journal after that. So anything that kind of pops up or anything I sort of realize I'll then start journaling about and writing it down. So that's been like a really nice routine for me. And I found like there's really no resistance to that anymore. However, prior to that, it took me a little while to actually get into that. So, you know, for a little while I just set myself like 10 minutes, 10 minute timer. And I'd just be doing that every day. So I think like, for people just beginning like one really shop around for what you resonate with. Because I think if you don't resonate, don't force yourself, you're going to hate meditation. It's not meditation's fault. It's probably just you're not resonating with the practice. So find a practice that works for you. And even if you've never meditated, then it's going to come a little bit unnaturally and you might feel a little bit shit. And like you want to fidget and move and not do it and. Yeah, so I think just setting like little timers and just starting small even, you know, even if it's like two minutes, but you nail it, you feel good about it. It's more enticing to do it again the next day than to just try and give yourself like 30 minutes. You've never done it before, you hate sitting still. And then you don't nail it and you just feel shit and never want to do it. You know what I mean?

That's my favorite piece of advice, is shop around. Because there's so many different forms of meditation out there, and people think that just because they try one form and they don't get anything out of it, they just throw in the towel. And I think that's so important. Just try. Try different ones. Try guided meditations. Try, you know, vipassana, Try. There's so many. And there will be one that resonates.

There's so much out there. So much.

Yeah, 100%. So I know for me, like, I, you know, I did a. Actually dedicated a whole podcast to meditate meditation because that's how, how much of an impact. Yeah. And, and I guess, like, I started out with the same thing, like I was doing guided meditations, just trying everything and. Yeah, that's, that's the one thing that I really want people to understand when it comes to meditation is literally expect to be shit at it. Like, anything. The first time you try anything, you're gonna be shit. If people would think they're gonna be like, oh, well, Zen master, I've done meditated a couple of times. And then they realize how hard it is. But it's the consistency of the practice, which is where I get the benefits from. It's just finding the consistency each day. And if you nail down a week, you're gonna get breakthroughs so much quicker than just sitting down once a week, every week. So if you do once, one day a week, you're not really going to get anywhere. It's just the consistency.

Totally, totally. Yeah.

And I Know it ties back into the routine. Like my morning routine involves meditation, it involves journaling and it involves movement. Very similar to you. And for people like us, like the body for me is such a powerful vessel. My body needs to move like my. Through the body I'm able to access like different, like deeper parts of myself. So any specific things that you also do in the morning? So you do your movement, do cold shower, which is a powerful way of just bringing clarity and waking you up. So you do your journaling. Anything else in the morning? Like what do you eat in the mornings? What's your diet consist of these days?

So it's been like so random at the moment. I think traveling. Like you just do different things. It's all different. Like at the moment I've probably actually been starting with more of a fasted sort of thing. So I haven't really been eating much in the morning. I've maybe had like a bulletproof. Actually I've been trying that just differently in Bali. They have really beautiful ones with like coconut. So been doing that. And for me like I'm actually quite sensitive to coffee. So I haven't had much coffee in a really long time until I've got to Bali. And then I was just like, yeah, why not? Like, let me just try it. So for me I find like I can't do that every day. I probably do it twice in the week and then I'll just start my day with like, just like lots of veggies and greens. But I'm. I don't know, with my eating now, it's really different. Like I guess for me I just try and get as much yet vegetables and plant based stuff. You know, I don't really eat a lot of meat anymore and I love those sorts of routines. Like you know that you have like when you're home you have like, you know your little bit of been getting on charcoal a little bit. Which has been actually quite cool. Trialing different things. But I think for me I'm pretty much. I'm not really a one thing person. Like a one, one food or one sort of routine person with. In terms of my body, I think I kind of just trial lots of things. For me a main staple is actually being like B12 has been like a main thing for me. P12 and I take aboriginal bush medicine. They're like sort of my main at the moment. Yeah. So what's that? So aboriginal bush medicine is all flower essences. Yeah. But it's a really cool thing. So the way I'm going To explain it might not be a hundred percent scientific.

And that's all right. That's all right. We're not. We're not scientific around here anyway. It's okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the gist of it, basically, is that flowers have the same, like, what is it the same, like, vibration as your mind or something? Like, it's not. It's like the same.

Frequency or frequency.

Or something as your actual mind. So the theory behind that is that when you take flower essences, you're helping recorrect neural pathways in your mind. And there's been a lot of studies, actually. It's really super interesting. So I've been taking different ones for like, a course of, like, maybe, I don't know, maybe a month to. To a month and a half, so you can get different combinations. There's a woman that I see in Perth who mixes her own and makes her own little bits and pieces. And I seriously have found such a difference in my, like, thought process and my. My function. So, yeah, I've been really loving those. And then another thing is, yeah, the B12, just because I don't really eat a lot of meat, that's been a huge key player for me. I didn't realize how deficient I was until I started taking it. And I was like, wow, I feel so much more energized now. But, yeah, I think I just go with anything that I feel just makes me feel good, gives me energy and, yeah, I guess I could say, like, yeah, sometimes I put in some collagen protein, sometimes I don't. I think for me, I kind of just. I'm so. Just free with what I'm doing, I think, because I just. I think I know deep down what I need and when I need it, I'll go get it, basically. And for now, it's been functioning pretty well. So I guess everyone has their own ideas about it. But, yeah, for me, it's kind of been quite. It's like less is more at the moment for me, I think, yeah, big time.

I think that's the most important thing is realizing there's no one diet fits all. It's exactly what you just said, figuring out what works for you. And there's no, you know, I can say how much. How important fasting is and how important it is to, you know, to eat meat, but it's not that. It's whatever works for me is not gonna work for someone else. So, you know, I. I'm in agreements with that as well. It's finding the perfect Balance for you. And it's just trying different things. And I, I am very passionate about, like, nutrition and diet and exercise because I do think. Yeah, when, when the, when the body is taken care of, you're able to totally. Yeah. You're able to really connect with the mind a lot. A lot. With more effectiveness. Because when I feel my best, then I'm able to think my best and then I can be my best.

Yeah.

It comes from. I think it starts with diet. Diet has such a powerful impact on me. The minute I, I changed my diet from, from like a high carb diet to a high fat diet, the clarity, mental clarity just started coming and then I was able to. It all works holistically, as you're aware. So I'm big on the diet as well. And I guess, Yeah, I guess for you, like, would you say you don't deal mainly with, like, female clients? Is that correct?

Yeah, yeah. Majority, yeah. Do you think say like 95?

Yeah. Which is. I'm sure a lot of my listeners are female as well, which is why I'm glad to have you on here. And I want to know, is there, being female, is there much of a difference in terms of connecting with yourself? Like, I want to. I'm curious, like, yes, at the core of everything, we are the same. But is the path different being a woman? Yeah.

You know, I think yes and no. I think the path is very similar. But I feel that for females, it's like. I think for females and males, it's like as collectives, it's almost like we all carry like these very similar core wounds depending on sort of our gender, just because of how society brings us up as well. So, you know, even though we're all very similar in our essence, really, we're not in society. We're not brought up the same, we're not conditioned the same. You know, each gender is kind of directed into a certain way and that kind of also brings up and triggers different wounds. So I feel that whilst we all kind of carry the same core wounds, they're expressed differently based on gender. I do feel that. And I feel that even though things will still be triggered in similar ways for each, yeah, it's kind of different. And I think as well, it's also because, you know, in terms of sexuality as well, very different. You know, I think there's a lot of societal shame around sexuality for women especially. And so that's another thing that's sort of part of the journey is learning how to really, I guess, be in alignment with that and not sort of shame yourself for that. Like, sexual shame is a huge thing that I've noticed is sort of a part of our culture, particularly in Australia. And that's something that I think really inhibits a lot of women. And also, it's just this whole ideal of, like, receiving. Like, a lot of women don't receive, and not just sexually, but I mean, like, in just general, like, receiving is a big part of. Of female stuff, I think as well, is like learning to receive and feel worthy of receiving. And things like that can be a real common theme. But again, like, I feel that actually the most interesting thing is a lot of males and females are very similar. When working with them, we kind of all kind of experience the same things. And I realize, oh, my God, we're all the same. Like, we all kind of think the same way. We all kind of experience life very similarly. It's just really bizarre to me. But, yeah, I think that would be. Actually one difference would be almost the sexuality side of things. And that, yeah, that freedom sexually is really different for women than it is for males. But again, you know, I'm sure there's different exceptions as well. Yeah. Does that kind of.

It does. Ties in perfectly to my next question, because I'm always curious, because in this space that we're in and the work that you do, and, you know, where I work now in Toronto, is a healing clinic where alternative medicine, we do have meditation and all that kind of stuff as well. And yeah, it's still. For me, it's still primarily women. And most of my followers are women. Most of my listeners are women. And I want to know, like, why. Why do you think it's so hard for men to open up to this. This world and do this inner work, become vulnerable? I think vulnerable is the right word because we really do struggle as men to open up to these feelings or these stories that we tell ourselves. Do you have any thoughts around that?

I would say, like, there's a lot more. There's a lot of fear. Like, if you think about all the things that close you off from being open, it's because it's a mechanism to keep you safe. And it's a lot of, like, I think males have been shamed a lot, like, throughout their life and sort of constricted and, like, you know, how many men have been brought up saying, like, you've got to be strong. You don't fucking cry. Like, you can't do this, you can't do that. Like, they're really being conditioned in a conditional way, if that makes sense. Like, it's like there's mechanisms over mechanisms to make sure that they're like, safety is a huge thing. Especially, you know, from a instinctual level. Like, safety is huge. Males are the protectors, right. From an instinct base. So if that's the case, then there's also that sort of reptilian part of the brain that's kind of overriding a lot of that emotional stuff. I'd say that's also adding to the fact that if I open up or if I then open to this, I don't know if I will be safe or will I be able to protect who's around me or then, you know, I think it's also that fear of if I open up to this stuff, will I be in control? Will I be able to survive through this stuff? If I face it, am I going to make it through? Basically, because I think that's a really realistic fear at times. Like, it's a lot of stuff, right. And it's scary and I think it's hard for males to start that. I don't know.

I think so too. It's. It comes back to like this mask of masculinity that all us men seem to wear and. Yeah, just getting through that, like, I. I see it so much with the people, the men that I would hang out with back home and, you know, I played sport and again, the sport, like, same thing.

It's like, yeah, which sports. A huge, like, anchor to not.

It is. Right.

Move forward.

It is like you break up with your girlfriend and. And it's like you go out and just fucking drink beer and get drunk and try and forget about it. But I just. I cringe when I see people come out of long relationships and they turn to partying to deal with the pain. And men are just. We aren't brave enough to face our darkest wounds, which is like, you've never been brought up.

You've never been taught how to.

So true.

You know what I mean? You've never been taught. Women at least have been taught that it's okay to be emotional as a woman, you know, from a very young age, if a girl cries, it's okay. If a guy cries, get over it. If you've been brought up that way your whole life, you've never been taught how to consume emotion. Never been taught how to actually even experience emotional. What it even is or like what it. What it actually is, you know, but it blows me. It's something I still even don't get fully.

Yeah, that's so true.

Honestly, I've. I have friends that are so open and more aware and really trying to delve into their, you know, inner world and stuff and, you know, want to, you know, still actually struggling and almost being borderline suicidal. So, like, it's like, there's still like this huge amount of stuff that just. I don't understand yet because I'm like, so people can still be so open and still moving towards that and still then just snap and go, I don't know. This is too hard. Let me just end it. You know what I mean? Like, I think there's a lot of pressure as well on men at the moment to, like, open up and step up. And I think it's too much pressure sometimes. Like, it's a real dual thing at the moment.

I agree. Just trying to run. Trying to run from issues. And then they take drugs. It starts with alcohol, and then it turns to smoking. It just spirals down. And if you can catch it early on, like, if you can catch. I just think, like. Like, as an example, you break up your girlfriend and you're in pain. There's the opportunity right there. Do. Do the work and you can just. That's. For me, that's what that's happened to me. I was the pain from my. This is how this whole started for me. I was just. I was in such pain from breaking up with my girlfriend at such a young age. And luckily I wasn't surrounded by people who did drugs or drink alcohol, so I was forced to go within and start to do the inner work. So, yeah, I think I would love to see more men open up and be vulnerable. And I hope through the work that I do, I can inspire more men to kind of be open to this, to be more vulnerable and okay with being emotional. And I think that's why women. That's why I love women. Because you guys are just so open and. And you. If you're feeling something, it's. Yeah, you feel it straight away. Us men, we don't feel. We don't feel it. You know what I mean? And, yeah, it causes problems.

So, I mean, I had a friend. I had a friend who is male, and he basically said, like, it took me a whole year to retrain myself how to feel. Like, that's pretty intense. So, you know, like, I think it goes to show. Yeah, like, a lot of men have been taught how to numb themselves out. Like, numbing out is a huge part of our culture.

So true. So true. So what have you found the biggest challenge about Posting videos about this kind of stuff. I had my own challenges, and I still do have my challenges with it. But you, you've been so brave and courageous with just posting consistently video content and being open. And it really does help. And, like, it's helped me a lot as well. What's the biggest challenge?

Thank you. I actually, funnily enough, I think the biggest challenge is still, like, you know, I can openly talk about a lot of things when I feel comfortable. Do you know what I mean? So it's still, like, even though you break past the discomfort of creating videos and sharing parts of your story and being open about things and also talking about really uncomfortable topics as well, but then once you get comfortable with that, you almost again lose. Like, for me, I kind of felt like I was still not being as authentic or as vulnerable as I could be. So. So then it was like, okay, now I want to share more deep or, like, more open more, what I'm actually going through. Because I realized, yeah, like, for me, it was almost like, well, I have a bigger impact when I actually talk openly about what I'm experiencing versus if I talk about what a client's experiencing and how I help them, if that makes sense. So something. I think it's still a little bit of that, but for me, it's also just. I went through a really interesting phase of realizing sometimes I would post because even though it was helping people, I was getting significance from that. So for me, that's actually why I took a month off Facebook not posting at all, because I wanted to get back to a place of refinement with what I was actually posting and wanted to make sure that the purpose and the intent was always from the best place and from my truth and not from a place of ego or a place of needing something, feeling a void. Because that's what videos and Facebook and social media, I guess, can become, right? It becomes a feeder for what you're feeling you don't have within you or what you feel you lack. So for me, I was like, again, it's been a constant journey of refinement. This whole business and this whole journey of it's always been refining, refining, refining, and coming back to what's real, what's true, what's actually authentic. Because I don't want to be another person that just feeds my own ego from helping people, which is awesome. Still, I'm helping, but again, for me, it's just not how I want to roll. So I've been really mindful and, yeah, just always making sure what's the purpose of this post today? And is it really for others or is this for me? And if it's for me, then I need to go away and address that myself rather than posting and then come back and post something useful. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. Well said. Well said. And that. I'm. I guess I'm the same when it comes to that. And as you were saying that you described exactly, like, how I feel when I. When I post. It's like, it's. It's. It's more for me, first of all, because, like, I need to get something off my. And then.

Yeah.

I guess the times when I'm forcing something, when I'm thinking I need to. I need to do a post on Instagram, because.

Yeah.

Do you know what I mean?

Right.

That's when it's like, no, no, no.

Yeah.

This needs to be. It needs to come from the heart. And a lot of the times, it's when I. When I clear the mind and I come out of a meditation session. This is mainly when I write my post. I come out of meditation. Something, and something will come through me, and I have to write it down or I have to speak about it.

And you're like, this is awesome.

Yeah.

I didn't even know I wrote. Yeah.

Legit. And I think this is what's great about podcasting now that since I've started. I always wanted to start a podcast. And this. This right now. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. It's these conversations, which is why I wanted to start it. I mean, I'm. I can't believe we've connected. And you're in Bali, I'm in Toronto, and we're talking about these topics and we're gonna. Someone's gonna listen and get influenced by this. And it's power of the power of the. The age we live in now is where people can get access to information and it can help them. But most. Mainly the podcast is helping me so much because it's talking. Yeah. So it all goes back. Are you going to have a podcast soon? When. When's yours coming out?

It's something. Oh, look, you know, it's just on the list of many other things I want to do, but I think for now, I think podcasting will just be something I feature on rather than creating one of my own.

Yep.

Um, I like. I love podcasts. I love listening to them. I love people that start them, like, especially like yours. I love, like, I love getting on them. I love, you know, sharing what I know. But for Me, I don't feel that's. My purpose is probably not to start a podcast, but I'm actually, I think I'm in the process of starting to write a book. But that's just really off cuff and random. Just kind of coming. But yeah, like I think, I think the podcast things for others. Yes.

Well, I'd love to have you on here as a regular guest. So if you're, if you're, you're open for that, I'm sure we can.

The regular feature.

Yeah, yeah, seriously.

I mean, I do love to chat. I do love.

Oh, mate, there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that. I guess so. The reason, the main reason I started the podcast was because I, I went through a phase in life where I was working a job that didn't align with me. I was working a corporate job 9 to 5 and I was doing accounting, I was doing tax accounting. And it was, it was a very difficult period in my life. Yeah, very difficult period because there was just such a disalignment with what I was doing for my day job and what my heart was calling me to do. And you know, people know my story. I eventually, you know, connected with myself and found fulfillment in the now. Which is, which is what I guess the core understanding is what I'm trying to put across to people. Yeah, there's nothing external needs to change. When you change your internal world, that's when the external starts to change. So after I figured that out, I, I found the courage to leave my job and step into the unknown and move out to Canada. And I wanted to share this, this experience, this, what I went through. I want to share that to help other people because I know there's so many who are in a similar situation, they're working jobs that they're just like, this can't be it, this can't be me. I'm not working behind it. I'm working behind a desk doing stuff I don't really want to do. And they finish work and then they go home and work on the stuff or do the things that I actually love to do. And I want to inspire and encourage others to acknowledge that and follow these passions or these curiosities. And I want to know, do you have any advice for someone who's in. Say they're at a job and they're just like, they're listening to this and I think that's the first step, that they're already starting to fill their mind with content like this. But if they're listening to this, and they're in a job and they're just like to say, I know this job is for me. I want to do this. My heart's pulling me this way. But they just. They're too scared or they don't have the courage yet. They're worried things might not work out. Any advice that you could share?

Oh, stacks. I would say, like, I think one thing, like, if you feel that, you know you're not meant to be in a certain place, or like where you're working isn't for you, but you just have no clue what else is out there for you, then either one, find someone who can help you find that out. Like, I think there's such a thing of actually reaching out to others and having. Opening up more conversations with people or, you know, even putting yourself out there to search for someone who could help you, maybe unlock that for yourself, or at least just help you remove whatever's causing you not to want to ever change anything. Because I feel that a lot of, like, that fear and stuff can really hold you back. And as much as I could say, oh, just do it anyway, like, get your courage and go. Not everyone. It's so much easier said than done sometimes. And I think people can spend their whole lives just being in that job, still hating it, still wanting to get out of it, but never actually getting out. So even so, I would say, like, give yourself a time frame even, okay, like right now I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I don't really like it here, but this is all I've got. Well, start to research what you would like. Start actually exploring yourself if that means just yourself internally or. Or what you actually learn what you like. Do you know, most people don't even know what they like in life, and they're going, well, I don't want to be here, but I don't even know what I want. Of course you don't know what you want if you don't even know who you are. Do you know what I mean? So I think it's like an element of self exploration before making any rushes. And you don't need to leave everything, but if you want to do it, if you feel like, you know what? I just want to dedicate and devote time to myself. I would say ultimately the perfect reality would be, like, just fucking quit your job, do something that just pays bills and go and do shit that you like or enjoy your life. Like, why do we always have to work just to make money just to fulfill some sort of Meanless ends. Do you know what I mean? So I don't know, I've got like mixed. Yeah. But for me I usually just jump and just do something really fucking random. Personally, you know, even now I'm just like, I'm going to move to New Zealand and I'm going to. You know, part of me is like, I think I want to do some sort of DJ course and do that somewhere at a bar just like randomly there so I can get a bit of money and just experience, you know, Like, I think we put so much weight on our purpose and our life work and our life's work is going to take a pretty long time. We don't have to race to get there. And like, I think an element of like enjoying your life now. Yeah. Is so important just versus finding exactly what your life's calling is now because I think that impatience can stop you as well from finding it.

Agreed. Yeah. Wow, that's such a great answer. Because I guess, I guess it comes for me like because I, I totally agree with you. I think if you want to, if you ain't happy with where you are, like people like for me a lot of people want to travel. It's like everyone's like, I want to travel but I don't have the money to do it. I can't go to work. It's like bullshit. Just fucking quit your job and travel. Like, do you know what I mean? We, we think we're trapped in where we are. Yeah, you can make it work. But I guess for me at the time, the phase that I was in, I wasn't, I wasn't brave enough to be honest. I think a lot of us are just too scared to act on those. Like my heart wants to go this way but like no, I can't do that because I need a paycheck. I need to do this. There's not enough, there's not enough money in it. That's the, that's the main excuse I used to make. Yeah, I want to, I want to pursue exercise. There's no money in that. Like what a excuse.

Yeah.

Like that's absolute rubbish. Follow your heart. Do. If you do what you want to do and you're just following like these urges like you're doing, just following we up to New Zealand. I want to do this now. Things, opportunities just start to create these start to come your way through. Living from this new heart centered approach and doing things that I'm here because I want to be here, not because I'm here because I'm too scared if I leave, I'm not gonna be able to pay my bills or, you know, people are gonna think I'm a loser because I quit my job.

And it's just, and it's all bullshit mentality that is about like, that's a control mentality from society, you know, like just on another level. It's like that is how you are controlled to always work for some. Someone else, like, and be part of the, you know, cycle of that life.

You know, it comes from schooling parents as well. Like, you know, it's the system. Go to school, go to college, get a degree, work a job. That's your life, you know, and you never, you never taught at school how to connect with yourself and figure out what you actually want. What does your heart actually want to do?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're just kind of told and coerced. Yeah, it is like A. Yeah, 100%.

We need that class at school. You know, connect with yourself 101. Learn to meditate and stuff like that. You know, it's. I think it will happen soon, but until then it's up to us and it's up to people who. Again, goes back to asking questions. Start asking the questions. What would I do if money wasn't a factor?

Yeah.

If I wake up tomorrow and won the lotto, what would you do? Yeah. And the minute you see what would. Sorry, go ahead, you go, you go. The minute people start getting clear on that, that's when you can really get. That's what I started doing. I was like, what would I do if I want a million dollars? Like, I'd still go to the gym, I'd still do yoga, I'd still meditate. I was like, I'm starting to get an idea now of what direction I want to take. And all came from questions.

Yeah. Yeah. And if it's not, if you can't answer those, I always ask myself, then what wouldn't I want?

Yeah.

What would I definitely not want in my life? Like if I was to look at life in 10 years time, what would I definitely not want to be my life. And at least use that to orient yourself a little bit.

For me, it wasn't sitting at a fucking desk doing tax for the rest of my life, that's for sure. And that's not just. And that's not to say that's wrong because maybe someone. No, that's their passion.

You love that and that's yours.

Exactly, exactly.

You're living it. You're living your purpose. You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't have to be anything crazy.

100. And I mean, I guess, what would you define as purpose? Like, I guess passion is one thing, following your passions. But how does someone find their purpose as a purpose just come from following your passion?

That's a really great question. I like that, to be honest. I think, like, in some ways we think purpose is like, yeah, like, what I'm here to do. Like, you know, what's my purpose here? Like, it's quite a deep question. What's my purpose here? Because it's pretty. It's something you might not ever actually truly know. Right. Do we ever actually know what the purpose is of being here? And I think we all create our own version of that. So, you know, I just. I like to question, you know, when I think of my purpose, is that the truth or is that just something, again, that I'm creating to help me some way feel like I'm valid here, you know? But I feel that following your passion and following your, like, bliss or what you really feel excited about is probably the best thing to follow rather than what your purpose might be. Because I think, yeah, they intertwine. And I think your purpose probably is just to live life the best way you can and enjoy, like, really at the essence of that. Isn't purpose just to live? Yeah, you know, I don't know. That's just my belief of that. But, yeah. And really, I think it's hard, like, we can say, you know, follow your passions. People don't always know what their passions are until they also remove a lot of the shit that's there holding them from even enjoying. Do you know what I mean? So I think sometimes it's like you don't know what your passion or bliss is. You need to remove some layers and just shit so that you can get that clarity. Because you probably won't know.

So true. Yeah, that's how I felt anyway, the minute I started meditating, cutting through these stories and getting to this, getting to my essence, it started to. Then it started. I could hear my own voice. I could hear my inner voice start to speak. And that's so true. Yes, I think going back to purpose, this is. This is my opinion on what I think purpose is. And purpose for me comes from when you follow your passions and you start to get to a point in life where you have discovered the essence of life, which is primarily be here, be now, be present in the moment. And when you're connected to the flow of life, which is in the moment, which for a lot of people come through, the people who, who love what they do, that. That happens naturally for them. They're in the flow. They're working, and they're just athletes, magicians, artists. They're in the flow of life. And then purpose comes from giving that back to someone else. This is, for me, my purpose is to help other people discover this now. You know, I'm so grateful that I have the opportunity to do what I love. And I want to help other people realize that too. And I think that that's the motive. That's, I think, what gets you up in the morning when you, when you figure that out, when you get a message from someone to be like, hey, man, thanks. You really helped me act on this thing. Or you really shifted me. Yeah, that's what it's all about. I don't know. So you get the most kick out of that. I know you're the same.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. And I think. Yeah, that's it. I think for me, I realized, like, even. Even on a deeper level, like, I'm just here to help people connect back to, you know, their heart and love and just to feel that flow of life just through them a little bit more. And I think, yeah, I think people find that and realize, wow, like, she's just awesome. Like, with or without anything, at the core of me, I'm still super stoked. Whatever the outside's presenting. And I think that's perfect.

Yeah. So true. I guess to simplify everything. Eckhart Tolle taught me this. He didn't teach me personally. I read it in his book, but.

He said I met him once.

Yeah, he's my, he's my personal coach. One on one in his book. The one thing that always stood out from his book because I read it at a time when I needed to read it, was getting back to your primary purpose. Primary purpose is to be here, be in this moment now. And even if this moment is shit and you don't like it, be present with it. Can you accept the conditions of your life right now? That's your primary purpose.

Yeah.

Secondary purpose is what you do on an external level if you haven't got the primary purpose down first, the secondary purpose is never going to be coming from that space. It's never going to be coming from the flow. So primary.

Yeah.

Focus on the now. Accept present moment for what it is. And that's what helped me. That's. That really is what shifted me.

So I love that. I love that. Majorly resonate.

So I guess I won't I won't tie you up for too much longer. You're on a. You're on your holiday in Bali and I don't want to keep you too long, but a couple more questions, I guess.

Yeah, yeah, go for it.

I know you're big on reading as well. Like, I love reading. Books have been such a big part of my life and helping me unlock new layers. Do you have any books, do you recommend any books for someone starting out, someone who might just. They've just woken up to this realization that there's more to life than just the external level?

Yes.

What books would you recommend?

Yes, Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself by Joe Dispenza.

Damn.

Excellent.

Good recommendation. I've recommended that to a few people, so thank you. Yeah, yeah, agree.

I recommend it to a lot of my clients just because it's the way that Joe just packs knowledge up in such a neat and easy to absorb way is so perfect, I think for anyone starting out and trying to grasp ideas and concepts because it can be quite complex. So I think that's a really great place to start. If you want to really learn what and why you're doing it and why it's important and what it's going to do for you and how it all works and ties into your neurology, your physiology, all of that, then that's probably my go to book for the start. Another one actually is Letting Go and the Art of surrender. That's by Dr. David R. Damn, mate.

You've nailed two books that like literally changed my life. Like, Letting Go was one book that I continuously. I've read it, listened to it three times.

It's like a decent book. I've actually, I only read it recently, but I really loved it. I really, really loved it. And I really thought it was like just, it just. It's like. It is like sort of a dictionary for every. Like a. What do they call encyclopedia almost for like personal growth and understanding it. So I love that. And then on a more like sort of spiritual level and I guess a more contemplative sort of level, I would definitely recommend the End of youf World by Adyashanti and also his other book, Healing the Core Wound of Unworthiness. What I love most about those books is that he offers so much, so much insight. But the way, like, I listen to his books more than I read them, I find them a lot more potent to listen because he embeds so much transformation in the way that he speaks. So his language, the words he chooses to portray messages Actually really seeps into your unconscious and creates some rapid changes, like, just by listening to that. I've had some incredible shifts. And he also offers contemplative questions in meditation. So, you know, he'll ask you a question and kind of offer up space to, like, go and contemplate that for a bit. And I find that super useful. So I really do recommend those as, like, other good places to sort of follow on.

Yeah. I haven't read Adyashanti's book, so. Thank you. I'll take you up on that recommendation.

You might really love them.

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure I will. I mean, Joe Dispenza, he. The last guest I had in the podcast, Jennifer Merrifield, she was the one that recommended Joe Dispenza to me. And when I first read. Listened to his book, Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself. Yeah. Bang, light bulb went on. I read and listened to all of his other books in the space of, like, two or three months. And then I ended up buying. He was coming to Toronto at the time, and I ended up buying a ticket to go see him. So I literally read all these books in, like, three months. And then I've gone to see him live in person in Toronto. And Jen got the ticket. She helped organize the ticket, and. And she got, literally, seats front row. So I'm literally a meter away from him. And.

Oh, my God, it was such a fan.

It was. Oh, yeah, it was. Then he. Yeah, I had a very, very transformative experience in that workshop in his seminar because he did a meditation at the end of it, a group meditation. And I don't know, you're probably familiar with. With what the work he does is. He measures the effects of meditation in a group setting. And in. In the group setting, meditation gets amplified because there's so many people who are going deep and raising their. Raising their energy. Raising their frequency.

Yes.

And in a room, it just gets amplified. And I had the most transformative experience in that meditation and that I'll never forget, because it was so powerful to be around hundreds of others doing the same thing. Yeah, I felt the energy.

Yeah. That would have been so amazing.

It really was.

I love that.

So I definitely encourage people to dig into Joe's stuff because he. He. He's doing big things, and we're gonna hear his name a lot more. I'm sure of it.

Yeah, definitely. Definitely. I can't wait till he comes, like, to New Zealand or Sydney or something.

I'm sure he will. I'm sure he will.

Yeah.

So thank you for those recommendations. They were great. I think everyone should read and listen to those books. So I guess my last question before I let you go is what would be just some little things that people can implement now that can make a big difference in the way they think and feel if they want to start to remove some of these unconscious belief systems that are holding them back?

I think the biggest thing would be like just practice actually allowing yourself to feel what you're feeling, whatever that may be. Whether that's frustration, whether that's anxiety, whether that's anger, fear, sadness, whatever you're actually feeling, feeling, allow yourself just to be in that for a moment. Whether you need to do that at night when you come home from work and just give yourself like even literally 10 minutes to just sit with whatever you're feeling and not run from it. I think that can produce the biggest change for anyone is just accepting what they're feeling and letting that be the case. Without judgment, without beating yourself up about the fact that you should be there, it should be here, should feel this other way. Just actually feeling what you're feeling and knowing that when you do that, you actually. It goes like, it won't hang around. And I think if we can learn to just do that more, we're probably going to feel better and better and better. Just naturally. I would say that's my biggest.

Well said. Yeah, that's such a good piece of advice. Not enough people do that.

Whether you do it, I don't know. But it's great advice.

Agreed. I can second that. I know it's good advice.

Yeah.

So Yasmin, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. Where can people find you online? First of all, Holistic Hub Perth, is that the website?

Yes, yes. Holistic Hub Perth is my Facebook page and website, holistichubperth.com I will be rebranding soon. So Yasmine Eve is probably just the name to remember here and you can find me on Instagram and everything like that.

Wicked.

Yeah. Reach out if you want to know more.

100% encourage people to reach out. Year Yasmine puts out some incredible amazing content and yeah, it's for free. For free, Exactly. Exactly. Especially the videos. The videos are amazing and I want to keep them coming cuz you're inspiring me to. To share more as well, which is. Yeah, thank you.

Oh, like, likewise.

It's been, it's been an absolute pleasure having you here and having this chat from other ends of the world. 12 hour time difference. We made it work.

I love technology.

Legit thank you mate. We'll chat again soon. Guys, thank you so much for tuning in. It's really reassuring to know if you're listening to these podcasts all the way through to the end, then clearly there's something trying to emerge through you. There is. There is an opening that's starting to take place for a higher version of yourself to come through. So keep, keep listening and absorbing this information because as you start to act on it, then opportunities and new ways of living and being are start to open up. And if you keep following these urges, keep following these inclinations and these curiosities, you're going to start to unravel a whole new life of freedom and liberation from the confines of the mind that stop us from really living in the present moment. So thanks so much for checking and if you enjoyed listening to Yasmin, definitely share this episode with someone who you think could benefit from it and I look forward to seeing you again in the next episode. Bye for now.