Meditation Stories with Pamela Swan. Spiritual experiences from a young age.

Hello. My name is Joy D. Fanning, an astronaut of life, and I help people go inward to explore. This video is part of a series called Meditation Stories where you might hear me share some of my own stories, but the main part is to share other people's experiences because there are so many ways to meditate and so many things that come to us when we meditate. So without further ado, Here's the video. Hey Pamela, welcome!

Hey, how's it going?

I'm so glad to have you here today.

I'm glad to be here, thank you.

Hey, yeah, you've already told me a few things before we started recording, so I am so excited to get so many stories. I know, I can't wait to hear them. But to get us going, can you just tell us a little bit about yourself first?

Originally from California, but I don't resonate with it. I resonate— well, I was born in like Los Angeles, pretty much in the hood, you know, right by Compton, Watts, and everything like that. I grew up in Orange County. I moved to Louisiana in my 30s, late 30s, and I stayed there for like 25 years, you know. So I like Louisiana. I'm in New Mexico now because all my kids are around there. So I'm like a spiritual gangster warrior, whatever the hell you might call it. Oh, you have a great name.

I'm a spiritual gangster warrior. Yes. Hello.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm not— I mean, I like the love and light and everything, but let's face it, the best way to shine, to shine, is when you walk through that darkness and you, and you got to shine from inside out on top of all— you shine it through to it. There's a lot of circles I've walked through where I've changed people, you know, prejudiced people and stuff like that. And they would like change. I've changed minds before because when you go down to the— I guess you can call it the trenches, whatever you want to call it. There's a lot of darkness, you know, and it's like people change, you know, because that's the best way to do it. You know, because what are you going to do, send them love and light from like miles away? You know, you go walk through it.

You know, well, not everybody wants to do that, Pamela, or they even think that way.

It's kind of necessary, though. Somebody, some of us have to, you know. So I've been kind of, I've been doing it my whole life, you know. I mean, well, there's a lot of, yeah, like, yeah, I look back at all my experiences and I can see it says, yep, yep, makes sense, makes sense, you know. It all makes sense now.

You know, I think lightworkers, a lot of us had to go through, or we did choose to go through these things, right? These, these dark times.

Yeah, yeah. And I have memories. I actually have memories of the meeting with the beings before I meet them on Earth. I have memories of being up there in the ethers, or whatever you want to call it, right? And planning the next day, or planning You know, the next thing they're like, oh yeah, this is so great. I'll be all gung-ho, just planning all kinds of demise for myself or whatever, you know. But it's more like experiences. But now it's like, yeah, the experiences I have, one day, you know, maybe they'll help some people.

No, I think a lot of lightworkers chose to go through traumatic experiences or put in negative families to like Yeah, create that empathy.

Part of what that is, is like we're breaking generational curses or whatever, generational karmas. But we're getting that, we got to clear that, we got to clear it. Otherwise, everything, it's not going to happen. So there's certain parts of us that that's what we're doing. So it's like we have 20 lifetimes or more in one lifetime. And it's like, it's just clearing the path, you know? Yeah.

I can't believe all this shit I've been through. But I— it's made me who I am, right? Like, I wouldn't change it, honestly, even the bad parts. Yeah.

No, I'm— I don't— I, I've already forgiven myself, forgiven everybody else. I just keep going, and I just respect the fact that everybody's got their own path. Get it, you know? I don't even try to wake up my kids or anything like that. They just know. They know how I am.

Just be the light. Be your light. Be yourself. Let it do the rest.

Yeah, that's exactly it.

Well, we're, we're here to talk about meditation, or at least try to stay on that topic. Yeah, can you tell me some experiences you've had while meditating?

Okay, well, when I was first kind of getting, um, well, I've always been sort of awake my whole life, right, on certain things, and then I would always kind of slip back into sleepiness, right? You know how you just, you get caught up in life, you just get caught up, and, um, and I was like, it was times where I guess basically I signed some kind of contract where they were going to force me out of my sleep. And let me tell you what, I was forced and it was rough. I started having seizures and stuff. And then I would have blackouts for days because I was like, just because it's traumatizing when you wake up that fast. Sometimes you get hit with a lot of stuff at once. And then the doctors took me off that medication for seizures and that delayed it again. So I had to finally quit everything. But basically, one meditation that I had was— it was like right when I was kind of wrapped up in a lot of— I don't know, I guess you would call it— there was a lot of darkness surrounding. I was in a house that was— it was infested. Like, I had the experiences where literally I came home one day and there was a trail of maggots all through the house in the middle of the floor. There's no way it could have got there. In the middle of the path on the floors, and you could smell death everywhere. You know what I mean? I mean, I battled entities in that house for a couple of years, and it was several. You know, it was several. I had help from the fairies, and I had help from angels. I had help from these blue light beings too. You know, I had help, but I had to get— it made me strong. You know, it literally made me strong. And I was hearing voices and stuff back then from like the angels or whatever. And then one day they just told me not to get on the motorcycle. Don't get on a motorcycle. I said, what? And like the next day, the guy I was living with, he got in a really bad wreck. Literally bad wreck. But it got him out of the house. It got him out of the house for a month, which gave me time to actually clear that house of all them entities. It was hard work. But like basically Archangel Michael just started talking to me in my head. And one day he just tells me, You need to meditate and connect to all of your kids right now. I said, well, I said, we don't even talk, you know. He goes, no, no. He goes, you need to, you know, go within. I'm like, what? I don't do that anymore, you know. I wasn't, I wasn't doing anything like that. He goes, no, you can do this. He goes, you need to meditate and just keep your kids at home. They can't, that we don't want, you don't want them, they're just so they can't, like, we don't want them going out tomorrow in the morning or something like that. That's what it was. So I spent like 12 hours on that, you know, because it took me a long time to get into it. And I, you know, if I got to connect the 4 kids, you know, and then, you know, that's kind of hard to do because you're— I'm always trying all the kids at one time, or I'll try one at a time, you know what I mean? It was like I was trying different things. But basically, the next morning, I forgot what time it was, it was, um, somebody opened fire at a Walmart in El Paso. Right? And shot a lot of people. Each one of my kids were literally walking out the door to go to that Walmart exactly at that time. They would have been there during the shooting. They would have been there. And like 3 of them literally walked outside, walked right back in the house and said, "Eh, forget it. I'm not going." Well, one of my daughters, she left, but she was going to go shopping with the kids. She decided to go work out at the gym. And as she was driving right by, the Walmart, she said there was like the— an alert came out just saying that there was an active shooter at Walmart there. So I guess it worked, but it took hours and hours and hours. You know, I was crazy because I did not know what was going to happen. I think that if you would have told me, I wouldn't have been able to do it. But it was all about— that's a good point— but it's also about finding a trust. I had to learn to start trusting I had lost all trust in everything in my life. You know, you just lose it after you go through enough and you dabble with drugs, whatever. You know, you don't have a lot of trust left. You don't even trust yourself anymore. So I was like, at that time, I was like literally clawing myself out of hell, what seemed like, you know, just climbing up, climbing up out of that hole, right? And battling all kinds of stuff. I didn't study demonology. Anything like that. You know, I didn't see any of that. I started— it was just like all of a sudden I knew, you know, how to do it. And another time— huh?

Oh, well, I was gonna ask you, like, when you meditate, or it sounds like you see stuff outside of meditation too, do you see it like with your third eye, with your physical eyes, or do you just sense it? How do you pick it up?

Well, um, I used to see Basically, I would see visions that would play out like, like I'm talking to you. I'd be like talking to you. Then all of a sudden, the whole scenery changes. And it's like it's a movie. It's like on a big screen, right? It's like, it's like all of a sudden I'm somewhere else or whatever, and I'm seeing something play out. But then my backup broke. It damaged it. You know, because your spine is your connection, you know. If it's like the connection or whatever. So basically then, I think in a way though, I probably planned the back thing too, because it got me all up in the field. It got me feeling the energy, feeling the vibrations of people, or just feeling, and then, or I can meditate and I don't see much. I'll see little bits of things, but I'll know who it is or what it is. Like, you know, I can see a, I can see a blue dot and I know what the hell it is. You know, I can get a whole story from that dot. That's like, so it's like, I know, but you can feel it. And like, a lot of the things will come back to me again, the different beings or whatever. And I know their vibration, I feel it. And it's like, if there's anything dark around, I usually, I usually go and I get pain. Like, you know, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Yes, I remember Buffy. Yeah, oh yeah, I would talk to someone and say, oh man, I'm sending Archangel Michael right now to your house for a clearing, you know, because I've done things like that. I've helped people over the phone get rid of— I had a friend that, um, had like 4 demons. It took me— it took about a week to do it over the phone, but the I finally got the demons talking to me. That's just— that's not for— that's just— that's not for everybody, honey. Let me tell you.

No, it isn't.

That's for sure. And then I left it— we had this— I had a TV at that time, and I took— I put it on this Bible channel they have out here where they have people literally reading the Bible 24/7. So I had to keep that playing all the time in my house. And when I— at first they did— they came after me and they choked me and gave me two black eyes. At first, and then they left me alone. And they attacked me like a week later. They dragged me out of bed. The next thing you know, you got two black eyes and you're getting choked.

Do you think that that's a part of your journey or your mission is to assist with getting rid of or clearing these negative energies? Well, I think—

I don't— I don't know. I don't know if it really was supposed to be a part of it, or it's like I learned it anyway. It was basically, it was just, they was coming at me so much I had to learn. You have to.

I have to. Yeah, yeah. I have to.

Because it's like, yeah, it's just you have to. And then, I mean, then I started trying to go after it, and then the angels were like, oh, you're not meant to go chasing that stuff down. You can't. Don't do that. I said, but, but. They're like, no, stop. You're not here for that. So it's like, well, because when you're first trying to figure out what exactly you're supposed to do, the mission, purpose, or whatever you want to call it. So at first, I was all gung-ho about that. But it was like, no, no, no, you got to do this. You got to do that. Then my friend would call me and say, oh, Archangel Michael says to stop watching the YouTube. Don't read up on the subject. You already know it all. You already have it all. You have it all within. Go within. I'm like, huh? Go within. So I just had— it was like deep dive and deep dive. And one day I did a really good deep dive. And a lot of times, my visions will come within the first couple of minutes of the meditation. I'll get a vision. And it'll be like clear as day. And this one time, I go in deep, and Archangel Michael shows up. And he goes, hey. He goes, look down. And he's like right here on the side of me. On this side is a bunch of different beings, dragons and stuff like that, and Vikings and Vikings right here. And he goes, look down. I look down and there's this sword. I think, I go, what about it? He goes, pick it up. He goes, that's yours. He goes, remember, for we have fought side by side before.

Whoa. Wow. Did you feel any energy or anything when you picked up this sword?

It was like a freaking lightsaber from Star Wars. Wow. Yeah, it was like, you know, and then all these beings showed up. It was like, I don't know, it was like a really special moment somewhere, you know what I mean? It was very powerful for me too. But it was like, basically, I still didn't quite understand it because I basically, I come with a legion of angels. I come with them. You know, I'd like— I literally— somebody I didn't know that used to be with one of my friends, this guy, and he had an accident at work. And there was like a flash of like violet blue light when he saw it. And then a voice told him that you are protected by Pamela's Legion of Angels. And he goes, he told his girlfriend, he goes, I know I've heard you talk about that name before. And I met him and he was, you know, he was a key player too right now. He was King David in the Bible. That was one of his past lives, you know. Wow. Oh yeah, a lot of people like that are coming. They come into your life when you're, you know, it's time, I guess. Yeah, so it's like, yeah, that was crazy. I'm like, because like I said, I never really understood what it meant. We have fought side by side. Before, you know. I guess that was like, so maybe on another dimension I'm an equal like that or something, you know.

Well, one thing I've noticed in meditation though is I'll have— I get— I see the visions and stuff too, like you're describing, and how even if I don't see them, like you said, you, you know that frequency, you know that energy. It has no other name, but yeah, you feel it. And like, I'll be shown something and then like a few days later or a week later or even months later, I'll meditate again and I'll have that same vision, but the knowledge I'm learning and receiving from it is totally different. It's like a whole nother perspective or like another layer to it. So I feel like if you wanted to, you could get more clarity on what all that meant, because that would be so cool.

Oh, I already know. I just can't go into all of it, you know?

Yeah, yeah, I get you.

It's just like, you know, people just are sensitive to some of it, you know? It's just like, because I don't even think I could have known. If I would have known the stuff I know right now my whole life, I probably would have failed because of the pressure, because you can't Because if you knew, like, because we're basically, we've been like all that. If we've been on Earth several times before, every incarnation was training for this right now. No pressure.

Yeah, right.

Right. So basically what we need to do is we got to bring in our gifts and talents from other incarnations and bring it into the now. We're bringing in all the aspects of ourselves, you know. And basically, if I would have known You know, because I get intimidated by who I was before. It intimidates the hell out of me because it's like there's other people that claim it, and so it makes me second-guess it. But I know better now. It's just something that I just, you know, I don't know if I'm supposed to put it out there yet. It's like some people, you know, whatever, you know, because I was like, because Archangel Michael told me that, um, because when I was like feeling sorry for myself and everything, he goes, well, when you were Joan of Arc, you were nothing like that, you know. And I have— but there's so many people that claim that, but it's like I would second-guess it at times, but now I already know because I feel it, you know. And then it's like, um, in my other past lives, it's like the memories are coming back, you know. I speak French in my dreams. I never took French.

Wow.

I lived in Louisiana in the Cajun area where they spoke French, you know what I mean? Right. You know, since I was a kid, I always wanted to go to Mardi Gras, you know, stuff like that. So it's like, so there was always little aspects of it, you know. But it's like, you know, it's crazy. Like, if you research it, there's some certain links and it's like, nah, there's no way. Nah, but it's like, that's what I think, right? Because it's like, so I mean, the Joan of Arc is like, I definitely feel her. I feel it. I do feel it.

I feel like Joan of Arc is actually one of my guides, but I haven't connected to her energy as much as others. Well, I have, I have a few others, um, that I know of. There's an entity named Rupert who's like a human entity, but he's not in a physical body. He's, you know, floating around, and we've had past lives together. And then Shiva works a lot with my third eye. I would say I'm, I'm the most connected to him. And Gaia is another one. She's She works with my heart, or my, my heart chakra. And yeah, I still have to work on building relationships with them all. Like, I'm just now identifying whose energy is what, and you know, like, I'm pretty new at it all, but it's a— it's fascinating. How did— now, was this— have you been this way like your whole life, or did it develop over time, like learning to discern and and see things?

Well, I've, I've seen things my whole life, to the point where my family, we just started telling me, we don't want to know anymore. We just don't want to know, you know. We don't want to know. I was, you know, I, I didn't even know. I mean, I didn't really understand my abilities because I was really young when I first started, you know, when I had them. Like, since I could remember, I was doing remote viewing and stuff like that, you know. So it's like I always had abilities, and the psychic stuff It's pretty powerful at times because I would, a lot of times I would go into a trance and just tell people shit. Yeah, one time I went into a trance, I walked out into the kitchen and I told my brother, I said, you cannot drive today. You're not supposed to drive. Do not drive. Then I went back in the room and I came back out. It was like weird. I didn't even know I was doing it really, but I knew, but I didn't know. Does that make sense? And I said, I asked my dad, I said, where's Matt? You know, where's my brother, right? He said, well, he went to go get his girlfriend, you know, from work. I went and stood next to the phone. The phone rang. I handed it to my dad. I said, Dad, before it rang, I said, Dad, the hospital is going to call. It's going to be La Palma Hospital. I named the hospital. I said, Matt has been in a car wreck. And that's just what happened. And it was with one of his best friends. Aunts or moms or something like that. So it was like, it was like crazy, you know.

How old were you when that happened?

I think I was 15, maybe 14. Wow. Oh yeah, I was doing this all the time. Yeah, it was all the time. We had a lot of, you know, weird activities in the house too, you know. There was always like spirits around and stuff like that. And like, my dad was always doing out-of-body experiences, right? Where he'd meditate and do out-of-body. Well, and he would like walk around the house. I could see him in his out-of-body. I could see his etheric body. I would talk to him.

Wow, what a childhood! I could not imagine. That is awesome.

Wow. Wow.

Yeah, that was like your normal then, right?

Like Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's like even I was 7, I told my dad I wanted to be a saint.

That's so sweet.

Religious, you know. But it's funny though, when you think about like Joan of Arc, why was I thinking that, right? You know, and it's stuff like that. And it's like, this is funny, right? It's cool, you know, you're a kid. I basically, I don't, I mean I'm fascinated with some of my past lives because there's some, you know, some big players in history, but it's like, that's not what is important. It's who we are right now.

That is so true.

It is. But like, basically it's like, um, so I have Isis and Osiris always coming to me, you know, Ishtar, Chemise, you know, Ishtar and Isis are pretty much the same person. So it was Thamuz and Osiris, you know, but it's like basically, you know, I was Isis. What the fuck, right? Well, you can say that, but it's like it just makes so much sense why, you know, I'm like, you know, you know, like that time when you're kind of half asleep, half awake? Well, one time I was half asleep, half awake, and I think, you know, Isis and Osiris shows up. And then we're doing this ritual around this fire. And then Isis just walked into me and stayed. I felt different ever since. It's like I got an aspect. It's like we're getting our aspects.

Yeah, yeah, that's a good way to put it.

This was, yeah, this was like a meditation, but it was almost like, you know, like a dreamy meditation, not really trying to. And like, right now, it's like, Like, when I look up at my ceiling at night in the dark, I don't see the roof or the ceiling. I see straight into the ether. Wow. I see, I see the water, lights, and everything like that, you know. Like, like, literally there's a light show above me every night when I go to bed now.

Well, that's amazing. Oh, this is so cool.

This isn't third eye stuff. This is like, right here, there's like orbs, like millions of orbs, different colors everywhere. I'm seeing the shadows. I mean, I can just— it's like, you know, like I live alone in a 3-bedroom house myself, right? And it feels crowded sometimes. I know, I'm joking. I was like, you just want to see more. It's like you just want these beings to appear. You know, just appear before me. I had a lot of incidents like, um, okay, here's one. Here's a remote view meditation I did. I did this about a year ago of the Vatican, underneath the Vatican. Here's some good ones. Evil as F, okay? Like, it was so bad. Unlimited. And like, I don't know, this was like way underneath, like, like the underground city type thing. Right? And there was these ancient floorings and stuff, and I'm standing there and I'm watching like this. I'm standing in the middle of it, and there's like hundreds of nuns running from something, and then there's these children running. And then, and then I— then somebody grabs my hand. I look over, it's Jesus, and he goes, 'Stop.' And he washes my feet. And sends me back home.

Wow.

Yeah, there was— yeah, I'm shaking from that. It was like, it was cool. That was like, I wanted to see more of them.

Yeah, yeah.

Because I would get gung-ho, you know, because you remember when I was— all that stuff's coming out, you know. And I've, you know, I've kind of had a personal experience myself of some of that dark stuff they have out there. Right, when I was 4. And so I wanted to— I don't know what I was going to see, you know what I mean? I know it was bad because my clear sight isn't that clear. So I see— it's like I see neon light around people. I see like lights or something. It's crazy, but I know it's people. And like, but I did see the nuns and I seen the floor and Jesus washed my feet. That was pretty— yeah, I did see that. So it's like, but there's like a lot of experiences like that. Like I had did a one remote view because I have, I had a lot of truther friends at the time. And this was in, remember January 6th, right? The January, the big horrible day, right? Well, I did a remote view the night before for one of my truther friends. I still talk to him, right? And And like right after I did the remote view, I texted it all to him so it'd be documented, you know, that I— before it happened, right? And I called it. The only thing I didn't get right is like, because I saw explosions, but there wasn't any. But I did see the gunfire. I knew somebody died. I saw all kinds of stuff, you know? And I told him everything in detail and everything like that. But it was like— and then basically a voice came on and said, pay attention. FEMA camps are incomplete. FEMA camps are incomplete. FEMA camps are incomplete. And that's all that was, like a voice just kept saying that. Then they started showing me all this paperwork. I don't know if I took it all in or not. It went so fast, you know. And like right before that one, I did this one meditation to where I was going to try to— I had a group of people I've been working with, and it was like a group of Earth angels, and we were doing things, and I think they were testing me to see what I could do or whatever. Or maybe I was fooled by them too. But basically, I did this meditation thing to where I was trying to get a hold of the Federation, right? The Galactic Federation, and trying to implement ant trying to, um, bring somebody from Earth into like some kind of meeting, right? Well, basically I bypassed Federation and went to— I don't know, you ever heard of that place? Like, I guess it's the heaven place where you go through the door and it's all white light. Well, there's like— when you go deep diving, people Yeah, you go through— some people go through this when they do DMT and stuff like that. There's always like a door with your actual name on there. Like, when I approached the door, because I was shaking because I could feel myself like teleporting and stuff like that, you know, and everything. And like the door just flew by me and I'm looking at it and it's got my soul song and my original name, right? And it's like I'm watching it go by. The next thing you know, it's like a It was over. It's over that quick because it's like, I guess the time is different there, you know. And it was all I could remember was just the blinding white light. And it was like, it was really cool because I was like talking to beings before I got there, you know, because I was asking for a— what was I was trying to get hold of? Just one of somebody in the Federation or the Ashtar Command. I can't remember which one it was. This was over a year ago. I didn't document it or nothing.

You know, do you ever meditate and then when you come out of it, it feels like almost like a dream? Like if I don't write it down, sometimes I don't remember everything. I'll be like, I know I had an amazing conversation with this entity, and I can remember how they talked and how they sounded. But I can't tell you like word for word what was said. I could be like, I think we talked about this topic. It's more vague, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Well, a lot of the stuff that I'm doing is like, I think I'm just, it's like I'm coming online. It's like my consciousness is coming online. So I'm getting my connections ready for something. Does that make sense?

Yeah, totally.

A while back, there was this— I forgot, was it 11/11? The 11/11, that was a big day there. We did, this group I'm with, we did like some big meditation and stuff like that. Well, like the last 30 minutes of the meditation, I went into full-blown light language. I was home alone. And like I did 30 minutes of it, but I was addressing certain people on Earth, I guess, and the galactic— certain beings on the good side and certain beings on the bad side. It was like, it was like somehow it just— I knew it was an important— it was like an address. It was like, it was like a warning, or, you know what I mean? Because I kept— because I was like, I was full-blown, like, I don't know how to explain it. I was like full-blown, like, Isis or some shit, you know, like just like a warrior or something, you know. Then I could tell, I could feel like some of the stuff I was literally crying while I was seeing it because I knew it was like, I didn't really understand exactly, but I knew it was about how horrible Earth got, you know what I mean. And it was time for it, stuff like that. And that was basically, and this one friend of mine, he said that, yeah, he goes, you let them have it, you know. So it was like I was really standing in my truth whatever, I guess, because we're all doing things. We're like the below part. When we have higher selves, that is the above. So, like, when I do my ceremonies and stuff, I'm the below and my higher self is the above. And you call in enough beings. I'm not doing this alone. I'm doing this with all of freaking creation. But it's like, not everybody can call it in. I never was able to do all that. Now I can, like, right now. I could probably— well, I can do it. Oh, I know I can. If you could connect, I could send you like an angel. I could send you a vision. Would you like to try that? Give me a minute. I got to call in my peeps, so to speak, the people I call on all the time. And I'll just get you there. Like, take a few deep— you can just relax. Take a few deep breaths. I'm going to, like, call it in real quick. And, um, and look, I'll send them to you and see if I can get you, uh, angel vision colors or a feeling, or, uh, you know, some people call them home invasions. It's so powerful sometimes, you know. No, I've actually had one person had a seizure from this one, so it's like— but I was sending light codes to a bunch of people on a YouTube channel that I mod for, you know. I do that too. So basically, I'll send you like something like that and see if we can— and I'll What I want you to do is like close your eyes, and what you do is like you look up, look up towards like you kind of look up but towards the middle where you're not like, you know, look up towards your, um, your third eye and just constantly, you know, look up to your third eye and we'll see if we can activate that. Okay, and we'll do work on that. Okay, I'm gonna start calling them in. You just like, you just relax and just, you know, be relaxed and believe. Okay. They are with you.

I say I feel too Entities behind me right now.

You feel it, right?

Yeah.

You didn't get a flash?

Well, when we very first started, I got a flash of purple, and then I just felt a lot of pressure, like, in my third eye. Okay, okay, that's probably—

You're activated. You just, you just got a third eye and crown activation.

Oh, nice.

So yeah, so like, um, just pay attention to it, you know. But like, you might, um, they might, they might come to you later or something. I don't know, you know what I mean? If you meditate on this right now or something like that, in a little bit you might see something, you know. It's like, um, I didn't want to go hard, and then like that, I kind of held back a little bit. I didn't have this— I just, the last thing I want to do is have somebody dropping rock, you know, because it's powerful stuff sometimes, you know. Yeah, you know, I've had people thought that they had a whole— you know, they felt the wings and everything. This one woman, I sent them to her, and an angel sat by her bed all night long. She said she could see the imprint on the bed.

Wow.

Yeah, it's like they'll— but at least you saw the color though.

Yeah, it's— instantly saw color. And then, like, right before I opened my eyes, I felt first on my left and my right, like, and I would assume they felt angelic. They were right behind me.

Well, yeah, I knew it. Yeah, I'm sure they were. I was like, I call in all the heavens because they better be angelic. No, but that's why I'm glad you felt the prick. That's what I said, you know, give us third eye activation. Because with the third eye and crown, you know, I know your heart's already being activated. I've been, you know, I've been working on solar and heart and throat activation worldwide. I'm doing like, well, I was doing during the new moon, I was doing 3 or 4 a day of those ceremonies, you know, but I'll probably do like, just, you know, one before I go to bed now. And I'm invoking the I Am Presence for everybody. There's like different colors of the I Am Presence, you know. It's like 12 colors, or I guess they're the 12 rays, you know. It's like, it's funny how clueless I am, but it's like, you know, no, I— yeah, so you just can't let that stop you, you know.

No, you can't. You really can't. You don't have to know everything about everything to have experiences or to communicate with them. They will tell you their name or, or whatever they feel you are ready to receive, and that you could start there, right? Yeah, I don't even have to research it.

The communications I get are like so instant now. It's like, it's like I'll ask a question and I get an instant answer, but I don't have their voice. It's like it's my voice. So it's like, it's like, I'm, it's like I'm fully connecting to my higher self.

That's awesome.

Or whatever you want to call it, you know, I guess.

Well, Pamela, thank you so much for sharing your stories with me today. This was amazing. You have so much to share. I really appreciate it.

Yeah, there's a lot.

That's okay.

That's okay. Well, I'm not going nowhere.

We could do this again if you could share different stories. Yeah, but no, thank you so much because this has blessed me and yeah, activating my, my chakras.

You might get a headache.

Olive.

Yeah, right. Well, thank you.

Thank you.