225: The Art of Imperfections with Candice Kumai

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Welcome to the Earn your happy podcast. I'm Lori Harder, founder of The Bliss Project, 3 Time Fitness World champion, fitness expert and cover model, turned self love junkie, lifestyle entrepreneur and author.

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Or a thought that will help you bust through your fears, connect to your soul and get focused and clear so you can elevate your life, business and relationships. We don't wait until we're ready for someone to tell us we're good enough. We take what we want and we anoint ourselves. Get ready to earn, own and unapologetically rock your happiness every single day. Are you with me? Here we go. Welcome back to the show. Today my guest is Candace Kumai. She is known as the golden girl of The Wellness World, Elle magazine and one of the top 20 new role models, says Ariana Huffington. She's a classically trained chef, wellness writer and author of five books. She contributes to lifestyle outlets such as Cosmopolitan, Yoga Journal, L. Shape, Bon appetit, Birdie, Girlboss, and well and Good, where she also sits on their wellness council. Candace is a former judge on Iron Chef America and Beat Bobby Flay. She is a regular contributor on Dr. Oz & E. News. And you guys, I loved this conversation with Candice. She gave me so many new ideas and so many new teachings because she really talks a lot about this in her new book that we're talking about in here, can Kintsugi wellness. And it draws upon her Japanese heritage and culture to introduce the next big thing in the lifestyle space, the art of Kintsugi. So just a heads up, if there's kiddos in the car, there is some colorful language just to really stress her points. So, you guys, I can't wait for you to learn about what Kintsugi is and listen in. So here we go. Candace, I'm so excited to have you on the show. Thank you so much for coming.

On. Thanks, Lori. I love, love you. So this is easy. And it's like talking to a girlfriend on the.

Telly. So you know what's awesome is I was like, this is so exciting because I literally. You were one of the people who. Let's see. We met at Natalie Jill's book launch in New York and you sat across from me and you immediately are one of those women who you just. It's like I've known you forever and it was so easy, like.

Homegirl. Yeah. And we also have a lot of mutual friends, which I love. And everyone that we roll with is so real and supportive and hardworking and it's like, how can you not love that in another woman? You know, you can just. You probably just sensed it when we met also. And I think Keri Glassman and Gabby Bernstein and Michelle P. And all of our girls like that are kind of in that group. Like everyone works as hard as the other person and supports everyone too. So I'm. I am here for you, girl. And Lori, I wish I was back at home in Cali with.

You. So you're from Encinitas. Is that what I.

Saw? So Carlsbad, Yeah, right? Encinitas, yeah. And I miss it terribly. I mean, Carlsbad and Encinitas all the.

Way. But you are like doing the New York.

Thing. Like you.

Are. You're literally, if someone could go to New York and like actually leave a mark on New York and show up like you are, you're on the what, you're on the Today show, you're on Dr. Oz. You get to do all these amazing things. So first off, can I just ask you what that is.

Like? Well, you are so sweet. About eight years ago, I told myself that I wasn't going to stay in my small little surfer world of Los Angeles. After culinary school. I, you know, lived in LA with my surfer boyfriend and we had a great condo together and like we surfed every day. And I knew that I wanted to be a food writer. And I just had these big dreams and since I started modeling at a younger age to pay all my bills and that's how I paid for culinary school, I just always had this devout love for travel in New York. So like one day I was like, I'm gonna do this. And it was after a really hard time. Like most people don't know this part of my story, but after Cook Yourself Thin did well. And our book at the time skyrocketed number one. In 2009, they did not renew the show. My bank account drained. My boyfriend and I broke up. I moved into my own place. I hustled with fit modeling and cooking on the line and tried to make that work. And I didn't make enough money to live. So I had to move home to my parents house in Carlsbad. At 26 and I barely had any money. I'm not joking when I say one of my friends, a few of them started hiring me to be their assistants to make money on the side, to get back on my feet. And then at the same time, I got my first solo book deal with Rodale. So I started writing at their house. Somehow I got booked on a show for TLC's Homemade simple, which helped me to save enough money to move to New York within a year. So I had like a couple hundred dollars in the bank, enough money to put a deposit down and rent for my first apartment on Avenue C in the East Village of New York. And I moved here on my own to become that food writer. No boyfriend, no stable job, no job here, no income. Just like a fucking suitcase and a hard ass, like, attitude like, I'm gonna make this work. And then all those shows and, you know, judging an Iron Chef and being a regular on Dr. Oz and E, being on E and working with the greats and being on the Today show, all of that kind of comes along with the territory of being in media and publishing. But like, it's not really who I am. And quite in fact, like, even when we're together for those girl dinners, like, I get really shy like, because I think like some few girls are like such a big deal and everyone's got these followings and I've been a little bit more timid because in a, in a Japanese way, it is true that you want to stay a little more humble, but I really kind of like, I like where I am right now because it's like I get to be the wellness girl that knows how to cook and implement Japanese lifestyle and ancient traditions into our practices of modern day life. But at the end of the day, I'm strictly a messenger and a bridge and I'm helping to merge different cultures by being a child of war, which is merely me, just like revisiting my heritage and the way my mom raised me. So I kind of left all the magazines I used to be on the masthead with like Shape and Fitness and Women's Health and Men's Health to move into a category which nobody has explored. And so that's a little bit more ballsy than going on these daytime shows that are overproduced and, you know, that don't pay your bills. And I mean, let's be clear, neither does writing, but girls like you and I make it look fabulous. And I think this struggle has been part of my story. And I think that's the other thing that you'll really see blossoming in this new book is Kintsugi is about the art of golden repair and how we're better when we show our golden cracks to the.

World. So I. Okay, so I love the story because it's completely backwards from what I normally talk to people on. And it's normally like, I kind of started with this Thing that really lit me up because I want to do these shows, and I want to be this writer, and I want to do, you know, I. I want people to follow me for this, and I. I want to be here and there. Where you were kind of like, okay, I started here. I did all this. I had this realization of, now this is me. So I feel like there's so much wisdom to be pulled out of that, which is probably this book. So for you, what. Why did you start? First of all, I saw a video about Kinsey on your page a long time ago. I feel like maybe it wasn't that long ago. To me, it felt like a while ago. And I was like, this is beautiful. I had never heard of this before. So can you tell me a little bit about what that is and where it came from amongst your.

Journey? So that's a great question, because it started to come along at several parts. It came along after a terrible breakup here in New York with somebody I was, like, so in love with. I was so broken. In fact, I think when we met, we might have still been together. So it wasn't that long ago. And then I realized that it kept coming up in my life. I went to Japan, and I was studying my ancestry, which I've been doing for, like, the last eight years, and I saw a Kintsugi master that I studied under in Kyoto, and he taught me that, like, this was really ancient, and that if a servant broke their master's plate or dish, they would even present. A Kintsugi artist would fix the object and present it back. And in some cases back then, the servant would even kill themselves and return the plate or dish and say, like, I'm so sorry. And it was a sign of, like, honor and honesty and dign. And although that's not where we are today, it's important for us to tell these stories. Because if we don't draft and prize our history and our heritage, then who the fuck are we? You know, a bunch of hacks talking about charcoal lemonade and, like, the best mesh yoga pants all the time. Like, that is so surfacey and not important. In the bigger picture of life, the important things are compassion, sharing, cultivating new experiences together, connection, talking about our past and how we can grow from things, how we can heal together, what things have sort of evoked emotion and created change, and how do we lead this world a better place than we might have found it? Those are the important things to me. And that's what myheritage taught me. And you're right. My story is a little bit backwards and I never thought about that. Like, I don't want the media. I don't give a fuck about the tv. I don't really need to be famous. I don't really want that. I want to share a deep and profound message of what my family taught me and the honor and the heritage and culture of a very small country called Japan. And maybe after Japan will come many other countries. You know, like I've found this to be a really deep rooted calling and it was not something I planned, Lori. It was like it fell into my lap. I was like, why am I trying to fit in? When I was, as Dr. Seuss says, born to stand out, you know, we can't fight that when it's inside of us like It's a.

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Free. So do you think that it was really important for you to go through what you went through though, in order to realize like, because was there a point when that was the goal when you were like, this has got to be the top. This is the.

Goal. Yeah. And I think that the goal is at the end of the day for each of us to say to each other we are better once we have gone through our golden cracks and healed and sealed them. And everybody should kind of know. Kintsugi is the art of golden repair in which when those objects break, or it can be fabric or it can be pottery or it could be many things. But the Japanese have a practice where they seal it and they turn it into artwork and they see it as more beautiful with the golden cracks. And that is a metaphor to everyone's life. And Laurie, you're right. Imagine if I had this perfect life and I wrote this book. It would not make any sense. Where it's like going through the struggle and talking about financial hardship and not being able to make rent some months and like struggling as a writer and like getting dumped by the dumbest guy I've ever dated and, like, all the stuff that I went through the last few years, I mean, I've had to change apartments so many times. I've couch surfed. Like, I've. I've been, you know, a total shithead who thought I was entitled to everything. To a completely humbled person that's really comfortable with who I am without nothing, you know, Like, I need no validation at this point right now. I just need more, like, real friends and family and hugs and gratitude. And that feels good. Whereas 10 years ago, it was like, partying and going out and who's who and who's the hottest guy and, like, who am I dating? And in la, it was even worse. It was like, what car do you drive? Who's your representation? Who do you know? And then I would always, like, leave work early to go surf, or, like, everybody would go and get stoned. And, like, it's just this, like, incredible evolution of life and seeing how much we've grown and learned and loved and sort of become the women that we are now, which is, like, really caring about where one another are going, you know? I genuinely care about you and our band of, like, sisters that we have together in wellness. Like, everyone's doing a great job of pioneering this space, and it's not easy, as you.

Know. I love that you just shared that. Like, it's kind of like taking a peek from behind the curtain, because even to me, so I lived in the Midwest, which, like, if you're not on a. If you're not on a coast, you honestly don't really know what's going on if you are not in it. So we just think if you have all of these things, that that has got to be it. Like, especially with you financially struggling. I would have. You would never guess that. But there's so many times when this just goes right back to, like, what is most important to you. Because if it's not. If you're not living in what's most important to you, it's like, it doesn't matter how glamorous or beautiful it looks. It's like, what is really real within that picture. And I love that you shared that. So that brings me to asking you, what means the most in the world to you right.

Now? Well, I think cultivating more peace and gratitude for others. And my God, do I sound like a total, like, granola hippie when I say that? But, like, I mean that in the coolest, like, surfer girl turned, like, journalist in New York way. Like, why can't we just fucking get along and drop our differences and stop talking about the divides and start just doing something. You know, I think the most important thing is that we do something. You can write all the out blurted out tangents you want on Twitter and Facebook, but if you're not implementing change like within public policy or organizations, or you're not an educator or a speaker or somebody with an active platform, I mean, truly, I think the government is where you go to implement the most change in which we wish to see right now. But you have to be active in that arena. Do something and cultivate more of that peace and gratitude. And if all you can do at the end of the day is just pray for other people and send them warm thoughts, then do.

So. I love that. Literally, it's like we always say the magic is in the do. Like not just for the world, but for yourself. It's kind of like you stop feeling. You feel a lot less fear and a lot less helpless when you do some. When you do something. So, you know, sometimes people post out of feeling helpless, but it can make you feel more helpless because you're not actually taking real action. So it's like this kind of backwards way of doing something that you don't even realize can actually make you feel worse because you're just now projecting the fear out. So for you, when you were doing. I know you have done so much research lately and just for the past, it sounds like you said eight or nine years just on really looking back in your family tree and just your culture, what are some of the, like the most exciting, just like, aha, life changing things that you've.

Learned? Well, I think one we might say is like my mom ended up being my greatest vehicle to learning more about how to love, how to be compassionate, and how to be a better person. Without even telling me, she just showed me. So the Japanese have this practice where they realize that children learn from what their parents do, not from what they say. So in the book, at the very beginning, in the chapters, I talk about how it is important for you to be an example. And there's a saying, ganbatte, which means always do your best. Like no matter what you are, to always do your best. And if you do your very best, you should not have like any worry or how do I say, like you should sort of let go of expectation in any way. And I also think it's really important for people to know that like nothing will be perfect. And wabi sabi, which is the celebration of imperfection in Japan, also the acceptance of it is a really Great practice for everyone to implement. It's another chapter in Kintsugi wellness that's getting a lot of attention and it's because it's stands true. Like there is something beautiful about perfectly imperfect things, including our hearts and minds and one.

Another that's so beautiful. So what did your mom do to make you? You know, you said she didn't even have to use words. Do you remember moments of just like looking back that she always showed up in a certain way. That was her best and that really reflected to.

You. I mean when she went to teach her coursework, she's a Japanese language teacher in San Diego. She always like dressed well and she studied beforehand. And even though she practiced the same coursework over and over to the same students who are in elementary school and high school, she would study. And so because she did that, she was so devout to her work that before Dr. Oz, the Today show, like E News, like whatever I've been doing, especially presentations and meetings, I will prepare before those. I will also make sure that I look lovely before every meeting and I will stay as professional as possible because I learned that from her. And I didn't learn by her telling me, I learned by watching her. So those are like really, really attainable strategies. Like Sofia Amoruso put it the best in one of her quotes for the book in which she said like Candice has created a very like reasonable and attainable guidebook to wellness. And it is, it will stand out because it is so different from everything else that's out there. And it's not like I created these. This is the way that the Japanese have been practicing their way of life for years. And it's almost like a no brainer for them. Like they don't think about these. But it would take a Japanese American girl to visualize like what made Jenny my sister and I so different from everyone else. And then I'm like, oh my God, it was, it has to be how we were raised by a Japanese.

Moment. So what do you think were the core things? Looking back, can you pinpoint them to some core.

Ideas? Well, I think I started to realize that I wasn't like everybody else. And I kind of like being single right now. Like I'm enjoying every little moment of it because it allows me to figure out who I am and to always do my best practicing gambate and to take good care, which is Kiyotsukete. And it allows me to have like my own way of thinking without it being shaped or influenced by anyone else. So first and foremost I love that. And I want every woman to know they are complete on their own. They need no man to complete them. And I also think it's important to like just be who you are unapologetically. You don't have to be loud, you don't have to be obnoxious, you don't have to take all your clothes off for Instagram. You can just be you and be a good person and work really hard and life will pan out for you. Don't have any expectation of what you think life should be. Don't look to other people for what they are looking and seeking out. Like, here's what makes me happy. Sleep, eating good food, talking to best friends from like childhood or college or you know, my other hard working girlfriends here in New York, talking to someone like you, eating cookies like watching shark tank in bed and eating vegan Mac and cheese like it is the beauty. Like watching a sunset, like going back to Encinitas and taking yoga next to the eucalyptus trees at core power. Like it's, it's always like the little pleasures in life. Like I value when I don't have to be on all the time because as you know, our job is tough. So writing the book showed me these incredible practices. Like Gamon is about working with great resilience, like being resilient, which is very New York, but yet the Japanese do it with such eloquence and grace and humility. So just watching and being present and doing the dozens of interviews and hundreds of thousands of miles traveled over the years was an honor and a privilege. And I felt that at no point, even still now, is the book even perfect enough. It is always going to be Wabi Sabi. And I also learned that I could have written it forever and I had to stop because my mom and I, who sat next to me and helped me edit the whole thing for years we said we know we did as good of a job as we could have done and people will surely find.

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Always. What's something wise that you feel like you have heard.

Recently? Well, I definitely love my humility between my mom and dad, and I talk to them a lot about life, and I love spending so much time with them, like, more than anybody else in the world. And I will say that I commend all of my friends who have lost a parent or parents, because I do not know what that's like. And I so often feel so grateful that we have our health because it's the most important thing and people take it for granted all the time. And so if anything, I've learned that, like, valuing health of you and your loved ones should be like, it is everything, you know, and if you have your parents, I think you need to. To learn to value and respect them and take care of them. And I never want anybody to think I had a perfect relationship with them. I even write in the book, I believe it is in the. It's in the chapter of Kyotsukete, or it might be in the Uemaru chapter, which is about your inner soul circle. But, like, we thought I was a bad kid. Like, I. Yeah, I know. My mom was like, you know, you should tell people that you are kind of not perfect because you are not perfect and kind of like a boring. If you show you a good person, you know, wanted me to, like, say. And I'm like, yeah, you're right. Like, we have to put that in there. Are you okay with that? And she'd be like, yeah, it's true. You are kind of crazy.

Teenager. So what made you crazy? Were you just, you know, being typical, typical teenage things? Or was it. What was.

It? Yeah, I mean, it was all about, like, wanting to always fit in and be a party girl and just, like, late nights and hanging with the wrong crowd and, you know, just thinking that I was, like, better than everybody else. And that's, like, such typical teenage behavior that now I'm like, sorry for all those years, you know, like, I'm making up for it now, so that's the good news. And then we also, you know, like, girls like us have one another too, to lean on and say, like, hey, I was like that too. Or, you know, I went through hard times or I'm not perfect or, you know, it's nice to hear, like, I don't. My sister and I fight and we still fight. And like, that's our relationship. We're not best friends like so many sisters we see. So I want other girls to know, like, you're not alone and you're not weird if you're not best friends with your sister. You know, I love my sister to death and she'll always be my homegirl, but we're not, you know, the same person and like, we're not besties. And I think that's okay. And I think being having the contrast of like, how bad I was then to where I am now is nice for my parents to see. It probably is a little bit of a sigh of relief that I don't love drinking.

Anymore. You know, I. I share a similar crazy. Well, just a wild background. And then with my sister too, I've just. You. I've had to make peace with it. And I also realize that we all just have those pieces in our life that some people are figuring it out earlier, some people are coming to peace with it earlier or later, or we're all just dealing thing with things at our own pace at different times in our lives. But eventually it's kind of like, it's just what are you focusing on at that point? So I wanted to ask you, once your book, you know, once people start reading it, you know, because I know that you've given it out to different people, even though it's not quite out.

Yet.

Right. What were some of the themes that started coming through? Like, what were some things that people were saying really resonated for.

Them? Oh, I think the number one chapter I found to be surprising or not that was like the most popular was Wabi Sabi, the Celebration of Imperfection. Like, I was raised by immigrant parents. I was raised different. My mom is Buddhist, my father is Christian, we were raised Catholic. I mean, it's just like my godparents are. One is Mexican, the other set is Filipino. My parents best friends growing up were Jamaican and Swiss. Like, it just an incredible mishmash of feeling different my whole life, which equated to later in life getting approached by a modeling agency and kind of being caught off guard, like oh, you now want me to make money off of the way that I look? That's weird. And then that was my side hustle as a kid, which projected me into learning how to be a hustler later on. And then from there I had to learn how to accept like, that I didn't look like every other girl. And then when I got older, I realized that there were lots of men and women that were really attracted to half Asian kids and people because they find it to be fascinating. And I see the beauty in that imperfection now too. But I didn't once before. So a lot of wabi sabi is just acceptance. And then learning that like that was the most pivotal chapter, along with shikata ganai, which means it cannot be helped, which is again, about learning to let go. It's exactly like you and I talking about our sisters. Like, I totally had that moment too, Lori, where I was like, why can't we be like this? What's the problem? You know? And I was like, oh my God, she's learned to accept me and now I have to do the same. So someone's looking out for us because I swear I didn't make this stuff up. And it just came out on the pages and it was edited and perfected and whittled down to what it is now. And I hope that you, Laurie, and your readers and listeners enjoy the compilation of like these stories that are from World War II survivors, Okinawans. My grandmother's best friend who's 96 years old, she lived next door to my Grandma for over 65 years. She watched my grandma pass away. And I interviewed her after that. And my mom told me she was the saddest of everyone. Friendship war Kaizen, which is continuously improving gaman that endurance and resilience. I mean, this is the. These are the traditions of a nation that haven't really been written about from a Japanese American girls perspective. Because the Japanese would never share these stories because it is just part of their everyday life. Yeah. But I will because I noticed how special and brilliant the practices.

Are. So you, you know, it's such a mindful culture. I'm wondering if you've noticed how. Because you also love food, you love to cook. You're so experienced with it, you share it with so many people. Have you noticed even just the way that the food is made and prepared? How have you taken that in your life and really tried to share that mindfulness even through the food and the cooking and the.

Recipes? Well, what I love about this question is I'm like, so. So into food because I went to culinary school, like, 15 years ago and cooked on the line. And it's. It's my sort of, like, bricklayed, like, I guess you could say it is my number one, like, true love when it came to going into media and writing. But what we know from, like, that baseline of food is, like, from there, everything snowballed into nutrition and being the golden girl of wellness. And now being in this great position of, like, hey, I don't want to write about hot abs now, or, like, a new cover line to sell a magazine, like, you know, 21 ways to get abs. I want to write about heritage and wellness through Japanese tomes. And maybe next week I'll be writing about Polish or Fijian or, you know, those kiwis. And I feel like this is a whole new way of living and exposing our ancestors. And their track record is important. And I think food is the most important part of the track record because it is medicine in its best way. And so learning about, like, matcha is part of my heritage and always has been. I'm like, third generation that I know of. Kumai family Matcha connoisseur. And there's so much history behind it with the samurais, the monks, the seeds from China where matcha was grown and implemented and practiced and how it's looked at now. People need to fucking wake up and learn about where food is coming from and what it means. It is something that should just be, like, thrown up in a lab somewhere and, you know, packed up for your pleasure and enjoyment. Like, I still enjoy those avocados every day, and I appreciate every part of where that food came from. So that's another cool thing, I think, besides the recipes is the Japanese appreciate where food came from in practices like itadakimasu. Shinrin yoku is a tie into forest bathing. Shojin ryori is the devotional cuisine practice that monks eat. No food that was produced with animal products. So, like, veganism is not a new thing. It is very ancient, and it dates back to the 13th century. And even living and staying with the monks for many different trips in Shikoku and Khoisan in the mountains of Japan have opened up my eyes to the chanting, the meditation, the religion, and the discipline that I have seen within the monks. So, like, it wasn't just food. It was like being immersed in the country with the people that made this book so.

Unique. You know, I love that you talk about just knowing where the food is from. And it's so interesting because obviously there's so many, many studies around placebo effect and how beautiful to when you actually know what a food is doing, that your mind is so powerful, not only the food is doing it, but your mind is connecting with the food in that way and allowing it to, like, really infiltrate your body and your cells and your mind. So I love that you said that. Just knowing, you know, when you drink your cup of matcha, like, actually understanding where it came from or what it's doing for your body, which, by the way, I need to really verse myself better in stuff like that, because I really just don't. But I see. I see the beauty. Like, I can see how it could become a sacred ritual in your life that even if you just started with one thing, could become something so.

Beautiful. Well, I agree with you. I mean, that's so the right way to look at this. And obviously, we're gonna hang out in LA and New York and talk more about that and, like, catch up on whether it's like, gray powder or we're talking about your heritage and the foods that your body loves to eat and nourish from. Everybody should be figuring out a deeper level of connection to themselves through their heritage. And it is a beautiful connection. And it means being vulnerable and taking your mask off and owning who you are. Stop comparing yourself to everyone else because it is such a waste of.

Time. What are you most excited about right.

Now? Well, hopefully the potential of getting Kintsugi Wellness into millions of hands and changing perspectives and hearts and minds and lives and getting more compassion out there into the world. I didn't plan on writing this book. It happened because my publisher told me I was ready to write my Japanese book, and I was like, no, I'm not. And it just all fell into place. And I wish for everybody to also, like, find divine timing and trust it, because I'm very excited about meeting a new man soon, when I'm.

Ready. I love.

It. Who, what, when, where or how. Laurie. But I just know it will.

Happen. Maybe the same way the book happened. You never.

Know. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's going to come from the publisher, but, hey, you never know. Like, if. If you ask, I believe it. You know, you shall receive when you're ready, and everything sort of aligns at the right.

Time. I love that. Any last messages about the book that you want to share with the.

Audience? I think what would be so great is if you picked one up for yourself and also picked one up for a friend. It is an incredible gift to Give to another. And it is a selfless book. I very much recommend Dale Carnegie and Don Miguel Ruiz Dawn's book the Four Agreements is a life changer for me and I love it. And I feel like Kintsugi Wellness is a gift that you could give to somebody in any capacity, any point in their life and it will help them. I've had everyone from like different athletes to public figures to just girlfriends like come up to me and say like this is the chapter I loved or this helped me or I needed this. Like thank you. So I hope for everybody to see it as a gift to the world. The right to to the book have been picked up already in Brazil, Portugal, in Turkey, in Saudi Arabia, in Greece and there talks of it being picked up in Poland, Japan, Spain, Germany, France and Taiwan. And I hope for us to continue to make this like a global trend because it deserves that. Not on the front of being a trend that adulterates the practices but celebrates them. And I think that's what we need to start doing a little bit more of celebrating one another and our heritage and our.

Ancestry. So beautiful and thank you so much. Where can we, where can we find you, follow you and get the.

Book? Oh, we are at. And I say we but it's really just me and my.

Cat. I just like don't like I say the same thing. I'm like who am I talking.

About? I don't like being a selfish person and for you probably don't either. I am at Candice Kumai so it's at C A N D I C E K U M as in Mary A I that's my Instagram, Twitter and my Facebook ends with that. You can look at my website candicekumai.com C-A N D I C E K U M Z Mary A I.com and you can also DM me or write to me anytime. The new book is called Kintsugi Wellness K I N T S U G I Wellness and you should pre order it like crazy or order it depending on when you listen. And always support your local girl gang like Lori and I do because that is the most important thing at the end of the day is more love for one.

Another. So beautiful and thank you so much for coming on. And you guys, literally I when I was looking at your researching your Instagram today all day I was like I am now officially starving. Like I want this woman's food now. And just you you just have to follow follow her Instagram grab the book. It's amazing. So thank you so much for coming on. I really, really appreciate you and all of the support that you give to other women as well and just your dedication to your craft. So I always end on one last question. Are you.

Ready?

Sure. Okay, so you have a 30 second elevator ride with someone and it's a total stranger and they look over at you and ask, how can I make myself happy? What do you.

Say? Go out and do more of the things that make you feel really good. Spend time with the people that make you feel great, the people that love you, that don't judge you, and be grateful for your health and everything that you have in your life in this moment. You won the lottery of life by being in the U.S. and if you're listening to Lori's podcast, you are privileged and.

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