What’s In Glōci: How I Formulated Glōci To Help You Glow From the Inside Out With Dr. Jordin Wiggins

When Tiffany brought it to me, she's like, now hear me out. Because she knows that I'm just, you know, another product. Another. It's like, okay, like, I've been in this industry for 10 years. I see products all the time. But your vision for the product and the company that you want to grow. I'm so excited.

Doctor Jordan, welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for coming on.

Thank you so much for having me.

Lori, I am so excited you're here because, number one, you flew from Toronto.

I did. It was snowing, so it wasn't a hard sell.

This is what you do. You. You do everything in California and everybody wants to come and see you. So I'm so glad you're here. It's been so much fun, even just the. The short amount of time that we have gotten to work together. But for all of you listening who don't know, Dr. Jordan Wiggins, who we're going to get to know today and throughout a couple more podcasts, is somebody that I have partnered with for my new company, Glossy. So this podcast primarily is to really let them in on why I chose these different ingredients in this particular product and just to talk about all of the different things that these ingredients, the benefits for your health, for your skin, all that fun stuff. So, first of all, I think it'd be a really cool place to start for people who don't know what a naturopathic doctor is. So why you got into it, what exactly that is. Let's start there.

We could have a whole podcast just on my health history. Perfect. But to summarize, I was struggling with hormone imbalances, mood issues. Birth control just did not work for me. I had my period for three weeks. A month on birth control. I know.

How long did that. Like, how long was that? A year. Wow.

I basically had my period for a year and went to different specialists. And long story short, I felt like traditional healthcare really failed me, didn't meet my needs. So that's when I went into naturopathic medicine. And a lot like, yes, I am a doctor. Yes, I can prescribe medications. There's a lot of different healthcare providers out there. It was eight years of post secondary education, two degrees, and then I opened a women's health clinic. So that was sort of my driving force. I didn't want any other woman out there to feel like I felt, which was alone and broken, and I just didn't want to feel fine every day. Yeah, I wanted to feel amazing. Like, I was young, I was active, I ate well And I couldn't figure out, until I became a naturopathic doctor what was going on with me internally and how to fix it.

So what opened up for you when you took that route? Like, what compared to kind of the traditional things that you had been hearing about what was going on in your health opened up? What did you learn as you went down that path? I mean, it's unlimited.

I know that I wasn't alone. That was the biggest thing, that there was so many women out there just like me, who are sort of suffering in silence. Like, you're not going around to advertise, even still today. I've done this for 10 years, but even still, I had this, like, oh, am I gonna tell them that I had my period for a year? Basically, like, there's still some shame and weirdness about it, so. But there was literally millions of women feeling the same way. They didn't. Even though they were seeking answers, their doctors were saying, oh, your blood work's fine. Like, not sure what's wrong with you. Maybe you should try an antidepressant. Maybe you should try birth control. So just so many women out there that want to feel great, they think they're doing the right things, but then they're not getting the results for feeling amazing every day, feeling energized, feeling light, feeling joyful. Yeah. And that's what I've kind of dedicated the last 10 years of my life to doing.

I love that the most passionate people and the people that I love to talk to, they always started the thing that they're doing or got on that path because they were healing something within themselves, or it was a problem that they were dealing with or a really close to home problem, like someone in their family or whatever that looked like. And you lived it. And then obviously, what happens is we want to take that experience and that transformation because clearly you've had an amazing transformation from what you've done and share it with other people. So when you opened your practice, was this a private practice or what? What was that?

A private medical clinic, A women's health clinic. And I ran that for, like, almost nine years.

Wow.

Yeah. And just with COVID and my mission expanding, I moved online and I had a baby. So it's just. It was a timing. So closed the brick and mortar clinic, and now with, like, I wrote a book and my podcast, I can reach more women globally with my conversation.

Okay. I love this conversation so much because I think someone who's listening, and maybe we have doctors listening who are like, is this something that is even possible. What did that transition look like? Were you freaked out when you went from in person to online? And how did you do it? Were you listening to, like, how did you learn how to do that?

Well, I always have a coach or multiple coaches and massive support and community because it's scary. You go to school to learn how to do one thing and that was to be a naturopathic doctor and provide healthcare in the one on one model, which I love and I still do in a very small private capacity. But that's what I was taught. I wasn't even really taught how to run a business. That part, the business, the marketing came a little more natural to me personally. But I was always hiring coaches or working with people to hold me accountable.

Yeah.

And I got to a point in my career where people were flying to see me. Wow. From the uk, from the us like to come to my clinic or driving. I'd look at their address on their intake form and they lived like six hours north or something. So I started to think, okay, I've only got so many hours in the day. My wait list is, you know, it's six months to get an appointment.

But you can't serve the people you wanna serve.

Yes. And there's women out there feeling the exact same way that I was. Alone, broken, needing answers because they wanna feel good and the answers exist. They're just not like the avenues that they're taking to find the answers are not fruitful for them. So I started thinking, how can I make more of an impact? And this was a three year transition. It wasn't like I thought of it and I was brave enough and ready to make it all at once.

It's never fast. That's why I love that you're sharing that for people to hear. Because it has its own timeline. It's never fast. And you're taking a whole idea and completely changing what you're doing. And that takes learning.

Totally. And I was planning to go that way. I wrote my book in 2019. It came out March of 2020 when the whole world went crazy. That I think was the push that I needed to really do. It was in the works. But it probably would have even taken me a year or two extra.

Yeah. That time for everyone was such a big. You had to. You're like, okay, well this is all the more reason why you have to have some form of online presence.

Yeah. And with my daughter, I was thinking, you know, do I want to be seeing patients 30, 40 hours a week? Like literally back to Back plus running a business and managing other doctors and like it was a 60, 70 hour a week commitment that I wasn't home. So yeah, the pandemic just gave me time to kind of reassess it all. And I was like, okay, now we're gonna do this now.

So this is such a great segue because it's about reimagining. Like, you really had to reimagine what this could look like and how could this be better? And when I was thinking of creating a product, I was like, what do I love right now, but what do I want to reimagine? That is not necessarily. It's not necessarily something like there's different things that I could see improvement on or with my lifestyle. I'm noticing that just like you, especially during that time, I'm getting busier, I wanna feel better. That's kind of this track in the back of. I just felt like all of my friends minds, everything that we were talking about, like, how can I have my life be easier? How can I improve on the things that I'm already doing and the products that I'm already using? And then we are gonna do a whole other podcast after this, you guys, so stay tuned. Also on like joy. How can we experience more joy? How can we have more fun? How can we have more pleasure? Which is exactly why you're sitting in this room right now is because I was like, I don't want to be on just online anymore. Like, I also want to do this in person. So with that said, I was so excited when we got connected. We actually got connected through Tiffany Carter, who is.

Love you too.

Oh my God, she's amazing. Like, such a powerhouse. So funny too. Like, those are. That's my favorite powerhouse and funny.

That's great.

But she connected us because she's an investor in the company and she was like, I have the best doctor that you need to connect with. I think she's totally your vibe. I think you guys are going to totally get along. And she was right. I'm so excited to be able to help educate all of the audience on this product and also why I chose some of the ingredients. So I love that you're here to kind of elaborate on some different things. And I'm just so grateful that we were able to partner on this.

Me too. And I love your vision because when Tiffany brought it to me, she's like, now hear me out. Because she knows that I'm just, you know, another product, another. It's like, okay, like I've been in this industry for 10 years. I see products all the time. But she's like, talk to her and you and your vision for the product and the company that you want to grow at. I'm so excited for you and to be here.

Well, you're a piece of the puzzle and I'm so glad it showed up. And when Jordan is talking about the vision of Gloce, it really is. It's the vision of wellness. But also women like being able to empower women and show them what's possible and also get us back to just basics and something very ritualistic and a habit that other things can build on. And I think there is so many, so much out there that. So much out there and even from the wellness space. And I am so overwhelmed that it was a really weird place in my life about two years ago where I kind of had stopped using a ton of the products that I had. Part of it was probably because my eyes started really opening as I started formulating a product. But also I just got so much busier that it's like, what am I doing? What am I taking? Why am I taking 10 different things? Like what is all going. What do I actually need? I think is the conversations of like really come up. Obviously on podcasting, we're just getting so educated. What is actually important for me.

Yeah. And what's gonna make a difference and what lifestyle health habits are gonna make a difference. I, yeah, I love, I loved that from the beginning. And when we connected on, you know, women wanna feel lighter. I think I said that. And you're like, yes, that's what this is.

What this is. Why lighter? It's glowing.

This is why. Yeah, we just wanna glow.

And totally.

And obviously there are evidence based things and thought that went into creating your product, which I, which I love. So let's, let's tell them about it.

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Yeah. And for 10 years, I've had women tell me the same thing. And when we put these habits in place and hydration right, if we're drinking more, we are pooping better. We can get into this because we got, like, probiotics, magnesium. Yeah. But by digesting better, you feel lighter. And I'd have patients come back and say, I don't know how to describe this, but, like, I just feel lighter. I feel good. And a lot of time, it was because they were digesting. Yes. Better.

I feel like that's just, like, a good question to ask everyone to know how your day is gonna go. Like, everyone on set, have you pooped today?

Yeah.

Do we know how we gonna.

We need at least one poop per day. When people say, oh, I'm regular, and I'm like, okay, well, what does that mean? Yeah, I poop every three or four days.

No. Oh, cradle them. And like, are you okay? You're not gonna be.

Not okay. Not okay. We need high, we need more fluids, we need some magnesium or probiotics potentially.

So let's start there because that was the main word was lighter. That is what we got from all of the surveys. And so we were breaking down what that meant. And that is what we obviously have come up with, is this means better digestion. So one of the ingredients in here is a probiotic, and we wanted to make sure, okay, what do they need? What does this look like? And we chose a probiotic that is clinically studied to stay alive within your gut, which I love a lot. Are not correct.

So many products out there, you're taking them, they're not in their active form, so your body needs to activate them for them to be absorbed. Or they're just like non functional by the time they get through your stomach acid into your small intestine where they would be absorbed. But this probiotic is specifically studied and it is staying alive to do what it needs to do to do its job. So you're not just flushing your.

Yes, because probiotics are expensive.

They are. And the good ones that work, you see benefit in your digestion, in your gut motility. You're feeling less bloated, your, your poops are more formed. Are we gonna go.

We can go wherever this is if.

Yeah, you're all good, but it's that you will feel lighter after a bowel movement. And that is how it should be. So I can't say enough about probiotics and good digestion. And digestion is the foundation of our health. And we're just starting to learn. Our microbiome has 100 trillion cells in it. And how does that communicate with our nervous system, with our endocrine system, to make our hormones? We know our gut brain connection with mood and mental health and the gut skin connection is something that even more research keeps coming out about. And there are these, you know, terms and buzzwords that you hear. But when we're talking about foundational things that you can do, foundational habits that you can have, a probiotic is. Is a great one, especially one that's going to stay active.

So why do you think this has become such a big conversation recently? Because some people are like, is it, is it just a buzzword? Why is it so important? Like, why are we focusing on it so much now?

So I just want to say that naturopathic doctors have been talking about digestive. We've been talking about four years before, and, well, you can cut this if you want, but Americans created like functional medicine as a sort of offshoot of our. And it really popularized doctors doing, like, holistic approach to wellness, which is amazing. But naturopathic doctors has been around for forever. Traditional Chinese medicine has been around for thousands of years, and digestion has always been a focus of that type of health care. In Western medicine, like North American medicine, we sort of segment everything. You'll see a gastroenterologist for your digestive concerns, and you see your gynecologist or endocrinologist for hormone or issues. So it's all very fragmented. But systems of medicine like traditional Chinese medicine have had digestion at their foundation for forever. So, yes, it is. These things are buzzwords and they're popularized because they're catchy on social. But if we think about it, if we are not like, what we're putting in is important. My clients, I love cars. They love cars, a lot of them. And if we talk about we're putting premium gas in our cars. Right. Quality of what we put in, yes, matters. But a lot of us will just eat for convenience or right. Because we're busy and we're overwhelmed. But what. So what we're putting in matters. How it's being broken down matters. So how our digestive system is working. If we have low stomach acid and we're not able to activate B vitamins, cleave protein so that they are the proper size to be absorbed in our small intestine, then sometimes even the healthy food is going in, but it's not being broken down properly to be absorbed. So we're excreting a lot of the nutrients.

So they're eating things they don't even think taste good. And it's not working.

Yes, yeah, exactly. And I have clients coming back to work. They're like, I'm not. I'm doing all the things, but I'm still not feeling well. So we want to obviously take a little deeper look into why that is. And when we're stressed, we are in our sympathetic overdrive. Our parasympathetic system is more turned off. Like, that's our rest and digest. So most of us are go, go, go all day long. And just being in that nervous system state, we're not absorbing, which is why habits, healthy habits, you know, even just taking time to sit and eat because I'm guilty of a working lunch. Right? Even. Okay, I'm just gonna send these emails or get back to this person on Instagram that I forgot to answer or whatever.

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We're not doing the two ups. We're not fueling with the good gas. Right.

You don't have the energy.

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Like, and it's one of those things. It feels like we don't have the time or the energy to prioritize health. But it'll.

It gives you time and energy. Yes, it 10x's your time and it way more than 10x is your energy.

I talk about it the return on health and the return on pleasure, which we can talk talk about in part two.

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That's what we want. Okay, so let's talk about the next ingredient that I chose because it's been linked to digestion is prickly pear. Because it has a lot of fiber, dietary fiber in it has a lot of vitamins, antioxidants. So, prickly pear, what are your thoughts?

Prickly pear is amazing. It's newer, so. Word? Well, it isn't newer, but there's not a ton of research on all of the amazing benefits. What we do know is that its fibrous properties do help with digestion. And I have a bone to pick about fiber that I would like to share with you all. So when people are having digestive issues, fiber is something that they go to to help. And fiber, when not taken with enough water, can actually worsen digestive symptoms. So that's one of the reasons that I love prickly pear with glossy, because we are. You're taking it. You're taking the fiber, you'll have the digestive benefits, and you're also drinking it with more water, which is what you should be doing. Mm.

Okay. I love that. This is. This product is truly all about water, water, water. And initially the first thought was like, okay, I think we're all a bunch of toddlers, and we just need to flavor this and make it great and also add all of these incredible benefits.

Why is it so easy to drink six coffees a day?

Because, girl, that tastes so good. But glossy tastes freaking amazing, you guys. It's like fresh lemon spa water. That was my other thing is all of these hydration packets were. They tasted fake to me, and they.

Were so intense, sweet, and dyes. And I wanted something that you could.

Drink in, like, all day long that you wanted to go back to. That felt really refreshing. And I didn't. I wasn't experiencing anything that was super refreshing. It was either way too salty, way too Kool Aid Y. I'm like, why is this a super bright fluorescent color? This freaks me out. Like, so.

And when you're hydrating and you're hydrating throughout the day or having multiples of something and doing it daily, like, what you're putting in your body really matters. So, yeah, if it's cool, lady gotta watch that. Yeah, look out.

Or like me, salty and going. Hydration also helps me not feel bloated. Right? But this 2000 milligrams of salt, is this bloating me?

Yeah. Even with people in their sparkling water, sometimes they don't realize that if they're having lots per day, the salt content could be contributing. And it's not in every sparkling water. Yeah, it's not every sparkling water, but some have added sodium. So just we want to be aware of what we're putting in our bodies.

We're like, we want to feel lighter and less bloated. But all of our favorites. Yeah, but do not take my sparkling water.

Coffee is a diuretic, but it's also dehydrating.

So that's a tough one.

Yeah, that's one.

We just aren't talking about that because we want to look away.

No, we love this. Well, we'll give some tips on that in part two.

In part two, guys. Come to part two. Okay, so let's talk about magnesium. So for me, magnesium has always been something that I have noticed. Personally. The things that I have noticed help me. I just feel like I sleep better. I also feel like it helped regulate poop. My pooping.

Oh, it does. Magnesium. Yes, it does. And so certain. And we, we're not talking about magnesium oxide because that it will give you diarrhea. But forms of magnesium are smooth muscle relaxants. So they help with sleep, they help with, with bowel movements. So magnesium is just endless. I can't say enough. I love it. Helps with detox, helps with hormone balance. We need magnesium. It's for so many cellular processes. And 50% of Americans eat a diet deficient in magnesium. Wow. So we'll see like constipation, muscle cramping. People love to blame their muscle cramping on potassium. So they'll eat, oh, I'll have some bananas. And sometimes that is the case. But I find more often than not in my clients, it's a magnesium deficiency. And stress depletes magnesium and B vitamins. Like, we just use more of it. So our requirement is often more so.

I know magnesium has a lot of other benefits. Can you kind of tell me the reasons that you love it and what the other benefits are?

So magnesium is involved in over 300 enzymatic reactions. So involved with so many things on the cellular health level, helps regulate blood sugar. It helps prevent chronic inflammatory diseases like Alzheimer's, hypertension, like high blood pressure and cardiovascular disease. So when it's deficient in our diet and it's going to help you be healthy today and prevent aging or like diseases as we age, Magnesium's a no brainer for me for being part of people's routine.

I knew I loved feels really I'm that person that when you tell me what it Does. I'm super motivated to take it or to remember to take it. And that's why I wanted to do this podcast, like, whenever I have, you know, different things that I'm taking or different companies that if. Even if there's an insert inside or if it's on the box, like, I like the reminder of why I'm doing.

It and clinically, because probably a lot of the listeners have this. I use magnesium in my practice for migraines and any, like, PMS concern, mood bloating, breast tenderness stuff. It's just really. Yeah. Really good for hormones as well.

I love that. Okay, let's move on to zinc. So zinc is, you know, I loved it because it is known for supporting an even skin tone, but also there's so much within zinc that also helps support your immune system, which for really busy women, which was what I had in mind. The main things that I wanted to confront with this, again were skin and to feel lighter, less bloated. But all of these extra health benefits of the things that we chose for skin and for digestion just happened to also have all of these other incredible benefits for your health. And zinc was one of them. That I actually did not take a separate zinc product before this just because it was an extra thing. I knew that I should be doing it, but I didn't do it. So when I also learned about how good it is for skin tone, I was like, this is awesome, because it's going to kill two birds with one stone.

I love vitamins and minerals because they just, they. They're foundational. They have so many benefits. Zinc is used a lot for treating skin conditions like acne. I loved using it for hormonal acne especially, and then clients that just want brighter, like, better skin tone. It's a great one. And I think immunity that has been on our radar a lot since 2020. People wanting to get healthy, stay healthy, and when you're busy getting sick just sucks. So, yeah, zinc supporting immune function, we know this. That's a foundational part and also kind of leads us into vitamin C. One.

Thing on zinc, though, that we want to. That I want to share is you don't want to over zinc yourself.

Oh, yeah, we talked about it. Yes.

Yeah, so let's chat about that, because we don't have a high dose in here in this particular product, so I also know you don't want to. It's an interesting fine line. I just had someone on yesterday, Kaylee Christina, who has a company called Clear Stem, and it's. It's one of those products that zinc is great for your skin up till a point. You don't want to overindulge in too many servings of zinc because then it can actually adversely affect your skin. And if you take too much. I know that you would.

Yeah. Then we'll have digestive issues. So a lot of zinc, especially. Sometimes I find my clients on an empty stomach. Yeah. It makes them feel nauseous. So we want to be careful with too much zinc, especially on an empty stomach, because you will feel just a little off. Women know that with their prenatal. Sometimes it's the zinc in there that will bother them. And also taking too much zinc and not balancing it with copper, like, zinc will deplete copper just with our cellular reactions. So we want to make sure that if you were taking a lot of zinc, if it was recommended or prescribed by your doctor for a certain health condition, that you're pairing it with copper.

Okay. So good to know, because I think some people. This is so my husband, I live with one of them. He thinks if it's good, you must take a lot of it.

Yeah. If a little is good, a lot must be great.

He's like, I'm doing. He was literally doing like, three servings of these daily vitamins that are just like, for one serving. And I was like, what are you doing? And that was his theory. He's like, well, if one is good, then three must be great. I was like, actually, no.

Yeah. And it's just certain things, like, who knew that zinc depletes copper, especially if you take it over time? So, yeah, knowing your amounts and the indications and too much is not always better for certain things, which I think is why it's very important to consult with a practitioner for each of these things to know, what's my amount? How much should I be taking? Not always. Three is better than one.

And we are underneath the radar of things that have been known. The dosage that has been known to bother your stomach. Okay, amazing.

But if people were taking 10 a day, if there was a ton of.

It, you might notice that. Okay, so let's move into vitamin C. So one of the coolest things that I learned about vitamin C, because when I was starting to talk to different doctors and different people about what are some, like, amazing skin ingredients that you would not go without when you're thinking about anything with skin. And vitamin C was typically amongst all of them, number one. And I thought it was really interesting, though, that a lot of the conversation was topical for vitamin C. But the craziest thing is that when you, you actually have to take vitamin C in order for your body to make its own collagen, like for it to help its collagen production. And I was like, why are we not really talking about this conversation of making sure you supplement with vitamin C?

Yeah. And there are certain nutrients there, like there's essential nutrients and non essential nutrients. Essential nutrients like vitamin C, our body has no way of synthesizing it, so we need to ingest it through our food or through supplementation because our body has no way of, of making it from other. That's a non essential nutrient. So our body could make things from what we eat even if we weren't ingesting it. But vitamin C is something that we need to take and it should be a part of our daily diet. So foods like fruits, vegetables are high in vitamin C. And when we're, whichever way we're getting it, supplements or through our nutrition, it helps with collagen production. So I would use it a lot with tissue healing. So if clients have, you know, cosmetic surgeries or surgery in general, or injuries, it's something that I would constantly be using vitamin C and zinc for how it's helping our skin heal. And yeah, to me that's, it's essential for collagen production. And we know that that goes down as we age. So important thing to have.

When I was thinking of creating this product, I was like, do I want to do collagen in here? And I, I feel like so many companies actually do collagen really well. I think there are some great companies out there and I, I also think people are really attached to their collagen products. But I wanted to come at it from that aspect of what if you're like helping your body actually produce more of it? So that's why I wanted to choose vitamin C for that reason. Okay, so let's move into the next ingredient that I'm excited about and that's hyaluronic acid. And I know that a lot of people use this topically. Super popular right now, but also ingesting hyaluronic acid. And we have this in our body and I can't wait for your explanation of it. But ingesting it may also be linked to reduced fine lines and wrinkles.

So I like to think of it, and this is just my brain and how it works, but I like to think of hyaluronic acid. It's a polymer found in so many cells in our body joint spaces. I think of it like pillow, like a pillowy substance. So it helps increase cell. Skin cell turnover for a more youthful looking complexion. It also is helping with our fluid balance and it's in our joints so it's keeping things like plumpier, squishier kind of. So that's just how I think about it.

Which you can also think of in terms of your skin. Like if you're, if your skin is retaining, like if it's, if it's carrying the moisture in it, it's going to look more plump.

Useful. Yes. And reducing the fine lines and wrinkles. One more thing that I loved about this product is the rice hulls that you used for anti caking because we all know and I love a natural product but sometimes it gets super, super clumpy like your alternative milks in your coffee. Sometimes they just don't work well and a lot of anti caking agents are not great for you. I do not recommend people taking them in Rice House as just a better alternative.

Yeah, that was an interesting, it was like a whole interesting learning for me of then going, okay, we have this great formulation now. How do you keep it from. Not cake.

Yeah, taste and caking and what are my options?

And they brought the options to me that a lot of really good companies use. But I, there's still some questionable things that even though it's great companies, I was like, do I, do I go the risk? It was riskier, more natural route because yeah, maybe you don't have the shelf life of. It can still potentially in the future get kind of clumpy. The product still works great. It's still wonderful. But I went with the more natural choice because I just didn't feel good. If people are going to be consuming this every single day, sometimes twice a day that I wanted to make sure that it wasn't loaded with chemicals.

Love it.

I am so grateful for you. This was such a fun conversation. I feel like it was a. Sometimes I'll listen to these and I'm like, I don't know if I'm learning anything or if this is going over my head but I just learned so much. I'm so motivated to number one, be healthy but also just drink a lot of my product.

I can't wait. Can you send me it in bulk?

You're getting it in bulk. It's going to be great. You're going to love it. You're going to glow even more which is almost feels like it's not possible. But thank you so much for coming on and where can everyone find you?

Follow you all the fun stuff Instagram @ Dr. Jordan Wiggins I send me a DM if you have any questions. Happy to answer it. I answer those myself. And the Pleasure Principles podcast is another great place to connect with.

Me. Which you guys, part two of this. We're going to get into so much fun stuff because she also does a lot of really cool things for women and just joy and pleasure in their lives. So until next time, everyone earn your.

Happy. Bye.