You Are Not Broken with Linda Perry

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Welcome to the Clarity Corner where you'll discover how to unlock and express the most authentic version of you and realize that this is exactly what you were looking for the entire time. I'm your host and your coach, Megan Siemens. Now let's make some magic happen. Hello my friend. Welcome back to the show. Today we have an aligned conversation with an aligned guest, Linda Perry. A little About Linda Linda is a mindset coach and business strategist who works with individuals, business owners and their teams to become more self driven and move toward seven figure success. So many people get stuck on a plateau and don't know how to move forward. Linda uses a mindset first approach to support individuals and teams to tap into their core motivations, strengths and frees them from their blocks so they can soar past seven figures. She is also a recovering attorney and copywriter and uses her skill of persuasion to show business owners how to make the impact they desire. Linda works with clients through her private coaching group courses and workshops. She is also the lead business instructor at Levin Life Coach School where she teaches new coaches how to build a thriving coaching practice. This conversation with Linda is really all about coming to the core, understanding that you are not broken, that none of us are broken, none of us need fixing and really allows us to zoom in to what are the stories you're telling about yourself, what are the stories you hear yourself leading decisions with. And this concept of being broken is something I definitely relate to. This is something I would have said about myself prior to my personal development journey and really influenced the way that I was deciding where to go next. This idea of well, no one would want this broken person was really this underlying thought that I saw showing up again and again. And I think this conversation is so, so important. We talk about those stories that you're telling yourself. We talk about how to hold yourself in compassion, what it looks like in practice to make aligned decisions, and what it looks like in that decision making process to hold a pause while still believing in your results. We even talk about defining creativity. There's so much goodness in this conversation with Linda. Truly she is such an aligned soul and if you're on Instagram, she's definitely a friend to follow because her content always speaks directly to my soul. It's always very tangible and actionable as well. That 1:3 profile in human design shining through in so many ways. Linda is also a generator who I feel like has truly mastered the art of satisfaction and she takes us through some of her journey into how that's not always how it looked and coming back home to that. So gosh, so many good nuggets and pathways in this conversation. I'm so looking forward to hearing your thoughts and as always to connect with Linda. Do take a peek in the show notes after you listen. There's some connection points and also a free gift for you down there as well. And before we hop into the episode, if you are listening to this in real time, there's a couple of free experiences going on in my world coming up.

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I am too. Thank you so much for having me, Megan.

Of course, of course. Linda is a generator in human design and for a generator, your signature theme is satisfaction. And you are one of the most satisfied generators that I have ever been in space with. You just like ooze satisfaction. It's so magnetic. Is there anything that's currently just like really lighting you up?

All I have to say about that, first of all is I think it's been a journey to get here, right? Like, if, if you had known me like 10 years ago, like 15 years ago, I can't say I would have had that same same energy. So I love that you say that, that that's the energy I'm giving. And I totally relate to this whole satisfaction thing because it's been a drive. But what really is satisfying lately is, you know, I, I made a shift a little bit in my work to go deeper, to take mindset one layer deeper. And like, how do you take attachment theory and apply it to business? How do you do some Things like, how do you talk about the harder topics that people are afraid? And that's been really satisfying. And I'm writing about it, so it's really cool.

Yeah, I feel like that's like the satisfaction that feels so magnetic to you. Like, every time I talk to you, you're like, yeah, I'm taking this thing and I'm putting it over here. And I don't know if anyone else does it this way, but it just feels really good. And there's something so magical about that. I do want to double tap because you mentioned, like, oh, it wasn't always like that. And you. I love, I love. Maybe we're gonna go with that word I love in your bio that you put your. A recovering attorney. I don't know if I love that for you, but I love how it's worded.

I think many of us who've left the practice of law call ourselves that. It's kind of funny because it is something you almost have to recover from for a while. Yeah, I should, I should probably say I'm recovered at this point, you know, as opposed to recovering.

Yeah, yeah, past tense. Did you find there were like, very specific patterns or anything you had to let go of, whether it was from your time as an attorney or just in general to bring you into this space of alignment?

Yeah, I mean, I'm, I mean, I, I'm going to take it even one step further. Like, I grew up in a pretty chaotic childhood, so I like structure and order. I tend to control things and the law was very controlled. There are, you know, there's rules and there's structures and there's formalities and so. And there's a Persona that comes with it. I was a federal criminal defense attorney.

So.

With that had to come, like a whole, like, Persona of toughness. Like, I seriously owned, like, I don't know if you can swear on your podcast, but like, I owned being a bitch. And so, like, all of that was something that I had held really tightly because you had to and you couldn't fail, right? Like, failure for me, when my clients, like, spend a lot of years in prison. And so, you know, when I say there's recovering, there's a whole Persona that goes with it. There's a whole, like, you got to work non stop. You have to really, like, success is all about give every piece of yourself. And I think, I think that's why so many of us who leave are like, whoa, what if. What has happened over these years? Right? Like, who am I even so.

Yeah. Ooh I love that, like, final question, like, who am I even? And I feel like that was maybe a key piece in coming into your alignment. This is a assumption, but you're shaking your head, so does that feel true?

Yeah. 100. Right. Like, who am I? And I'm. And I'm still on that journey. Like, I don't think that journey ever ends. I'm the most crazy, voracious reader that some of my friends. Like, I think you need to stop for a while. Yeah, right. But like, I mean about, like any brain topic, self help topic, like, yeah, you name it, I love it. And so, yeah, like, who am I? Was really huge. Particularly because I. I was a check the box girl. Right. Like, my. My parents said you're a doctor or a lawyer, and I fainted. The sight of blood. So lawyer I was. And so, you know, that's. I checked the box. I had, you know, a good career. I graduated law school with honors. I then got married, and then I had two kids and I had the house in Chicago, and I had all these beautiful things, and I woke up and I went, God, this life's not mine. And then I blew it up. And then ever since I blew up my life, I divorced my first husband. I've been on a journey, really reconnecting.

Yeah, that, like, phrase blew it up gave me, like, full body goosebumps when you said it. Just like, like felt that.

Yeah, I mean, I. Yeah, I pretty obliterated it. So.

Yeah, I mean, you can laugh and say it lightly now and in the midst of it. And I know a lot of people listening to this podcast can really relate to that. Like checking the box, doing the shoulds. Like, in the midst of it, it can feel so messy and not light, even though you know it's the right decision. Yeah, I know. I mean, you and I share a lot of beliefs, but one in particular is the belief of not being broken. Do you feel like checking the shoulds and just following that checkbox? Life checks, Check box life. Whoa. Is one of the main reasons that people do feel like they're broken, because it's not working when they feel like you should.

I think a lot of people who carry this belief of I am broken. You know, first of all, we. We come by it honestly and earnestly in the sense that, you know, nobody's born broken, yet somehow we decide that we are. And so everything we do in our outer world is to prove we're not right. And that's what the check the box kind of thing kind of happens is Let me prove I can have a normal life, that I look good on the outside, that I have the package. I mean, someone called, a friend of mine used to call my first husband, and I like the. The perfects. And I'm like, yeah, funny, but, like, not the perfect.

Yeah.

I think it drives you to wear a mask or to show up a certain way or to, like, constantly prove to yourself and others, no, no, no, wait. See how unbroken I am? See how quote, unquote normal I am? Right? Yeah, but you, you know, still, I checked all the boxes and I went, yeah, still don't feel great about myself. Yeah.

Okay, so how do we come to that? Knowing of like, okay, but wait, I'm not actually broken.

Yeah, that's a. That's a journey. Right. And I think many of us spend a lifetime. I mean, there's a reason I'm writing about it right now, because I think I've spent a lifetime carrying this belief and undoing it in every area of my life, like relationships, health, business, everything. And I think it's, you know, look, we deny to even ourselves this feeling that I'm broken. We don't dare tell anyone this. This belief more than any other. Like, we don't tell anyone. We can tell people we have limiting beliefs around not feeling enough about being stupid, about even being unlovable. Like, I will have people tell, but when they actually disclose the. This one, it's like a whisper. I feel so broken. And I think we come to this awareness that we feel broken and you're not. I have to say this automatically. No one needs to be fixed. No one is broken. But we, we come to this all of a sudden in this really painful moment where we've fallen down again, where life hasn't turned out the way we wanted, where we're attracting shitty people, toxic relationships, toxic business clients. Like, we're not making the money we want. We don't have the freedom we want. Life isn't looking the way we want. And again, the only person we can point to is ourselves. And so there's this realization that that's my belief, that's my. My core one that hurts so badly. And so what I, What I tell people is, is, you know, this is a journey. And the first thing is, is to just hear me say it, you're not broken.

And who would that.

First of all, let's just, I mean, to make a little levity that who's normal? Who on this planet is normal? Who do you know that's normal? I don't know anyone like, and I love that.

Yeah, yeah. No, what is normal even?

And people start laughing when I say that. Right? Like, you know, because what is normal? But I think one way to start to embrace this is there's a couple different ways. But one way to start to shift out of this or one way to start to think about this differently is look at a baby. Every baby that comes into this world doesn't carry that feeling of broken. They move through emotions. They move through feelings. From one moment they're laughing, the next moment they're crying, they're demanding. They have no problem with it. They're not broken. And I say, like, watch a baby and then think about yourself. Right. You were once that. And then add one more layer. Like, I'm a mom, I have two kids. And I like to think back when they were babies, did I demand that they prove their worth? Did I demand that they show that they have value before I cuddled them, fed them, did all sorts of things. Hell no. And so I start to say, if you can go back to that and recognize you weren't born broken, but maybe you had, your parents said something, maybe a teacher said something, maybe you learned something, maybe you made a decision all before you were 10 years old, and it was maybe the wrong decision. Maybe everything you think about yourself is just not true.

Yes, that right there. So step one, hearing you are not broken, you do not need fixing. And it sounds like step two, finding that story. Finding that story that's holding that in place.

Yeah, I'm. I'm a shadow coach. So what that really, essentially I was trained as a shadow coach. Which really what that means is, is Carl Jung's theory of the shadows, that we all carry beliefs in our subconscious brain. And Carl Jung said, basically, we form all of our beliefs before the age of 10. And so when I work with clients on this belief, we go trace it as far back as possible. Right. And it's usually formed before the age of 10. And I tell clients, and I know someone's going to be listening, saying, I can't trace it. I had a total normal child, that everything was fine. Right. You know, or they're going to say, I have no memories, which is also fine. But I say trace back the feelings. Like, when was the first time you remember feeling broken? Like, trace back, like, what's the messaging? Tell me a little bit about that story. And inevitably someone is going to come up with something like, you know, I noticed the kids, you know, felt this or that. I mean, one of my stories is literally. And this Is. And I want everybody to know I've worked through this so before I share it. But as I go back to the age of three, I'm standing in the hallway of my apartment. I don't remember anything but the sun coming through. And I bit my nails. At the time I was a very anxious child who rightfully so, was anxious because my father was pretty violent and chaotic. And so I put my hand in my mouth and there's Tabasco on my hand. And I start screaming and I'm screaming and I'm crying and my parents had put Tabasco on my nails back in the day. That's what parents thought was a really good idea. And I'm. And I'm screaming and not knowing what to do. And the thing that I decided in that moment that I was broken is, is that not so much that they put tabask on is no one came to tend to me, no one came to care. I stood in that hallway crying, and I don't know where anyone else was. Maybe it was only for a minute, maybe it was longer, I don't know. But I know that that's as far back as I can go.

Yeah.

And so we want to start to. To dig up this because you know that three year old made a bad decision in that moment about who she was. Right. And that's the same that all of the rest of us do.

Yeah. Do you find. So there's this awareness piece. Do you find there's a forgiveness element in this as well?

Yeah, I think that's a really good question. Forgiveness is such a big package right around this.

Yeah.

I think before forgiveness comes compassion.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

You know, like I look at my parents and the thing you don't know is they're from the former Yugoslavia. Their parents were brutal. The things that they were taught about parenting children were so different than what we're taught now. They thought they were doing the best thing. And if you can start to put adult eyes instead of blame, because blame keeps a story in the story, keeps us as a victim. But if you can look at everybody almost objectively, neutrally, you get to go back and kind of reparent yourself and then have compassion for those people.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah, Yeah. I love that call out of compassion. I feel like that's. That feels like a. A quote unquote step that people maybe miss try and bypass.

Yeah.

Which probably feels very rooted in that, that, that concept of brokenness. Like, oh, I just need to fix it.

Right. No fixing.

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Not necessary.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love how you give voice to emotions and all of the process. And in your design, your authority is emotional. Did you know this already about your design? I know you've learned a little bit.

I learned a little. I'm totally like fascinated by all this and don't know what it all means. So I love hearing about this.

Yeah, well, it's just so beautiful the way you give voice to emotions in a process. And with the emotional authority, there's really this emotional wave that rides through into clarity and, and our authority is really how, really how we're designed to make big decisions. And someone with an emotional authority is designed to wait till there's almost this plateau in emotion. So not jumping into something at a really high high. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. Let's do it right now. And then you wake up the next day and you're like, why did I say yes to that? I do not have the energy for that. Or jumping out of something at a really low, low, like, this sucks, I'm out. And then you wake up the next morning and you're like, why was I being so dramatic? So it's like waiting for that place of neutrality, that place of neutral. But I think one, you give such beautiful voice to the emotional wave that we all ride, which I feel like is just part of your innate wisdom. And two, I'm so curious, especially at that point in your life where you kind of burned it all down, did you find that you were in the space of neutrality or did it feel excess charge?

I mean, I love that you've so explained this to me because I'm like, well, hell, that just explains all the bad decisions in my life. Thanks. I feel so much better now because I, I have like a reason.

Excellent.

I'm like, this is great. No, I will tell you, I was not, I was like, not any place of a plateau. And I think that's why for years I carried so much guilt, shame, disappointment in myself. Yeah, there was a lot of self punishing. You know, my kids were really young and my ex husband did not recover well from the divorce. And so, yeah, like I wasn't. And I, I think perhaps I made it. Maybe would have made a different decision or I just would have made it so much better than I had.

Yeah, I feel like the wisdom in that though is like so needed of, like, this is not about making our decisions wrong. It's like, how could I just navigate this with a little bit more ease?

Yeah. Like it would have had some grace to It. It would have had, you know, I. I slow down now in my decision making. I've learned I am a quick start. I move fast.

Yeah.

But I don't always make the best decisions when I move fast.

Yeah. Yeah.

So I'm kind of like, I think this is where I really am human, and this is where I've learned my lessons. And I slow down my weight. Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a challenge.

I can imagine with the. The generator energy that is so, like, pulled towards things or just like, abruptly pulled away from things to have that, like, subtle art of the weight of, like. Wait, is this actually true? Yeah.

That's painful.

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah. I think this is like a thing that doesn't get talked about very much. In kind of the, you know, self development, personal development world is like, making decisions that are aligned with our intuition or aligned with our energy. Doesn't mean that they're just like, oh, okay. Rainbows and butterflies. Easy peasy, let's do it.

Yeah. Like, it's one thing to pick my dog the way I did. And I had total intuition that this was like, the right dog, the best dog. And like, yeah. I told my husband, I'm like, she's at that place. We need to go get her. And he's like, what, crazy lady? But, okay, let's go. But, like, that's one thing. And it was the right decision. But I think with life decisions, what we have to recognize too, is we have beliefs that are going in. Like, I am broken has led me to make some bad decisions in the sense of, well, if this isn't working, if I've checked all the boxes and it's not okay, like, everybody else seems to think I should be satisfied. Everybody else seems to think, yeah, then I gotta run. And sometimes sitting is doing the hard work of going, what's exactly here? And I. I'm not saying, like, I actually don't think it would have been a different outcome. It's just.

Yep.

I would have done it with a lot more self esteem.

Yeah. It reminds me of what you were talking about with compassion too. Of just like, can you hold yourself in a space of compassion in that pause?

Yeah. Yeah. What a great way to look at it.

Yeah. You recently helped me lean into a pause as well. We were having a call in the mastermind that Linda and I met in, and I was going through my season of grief, which I've talked about on this podcast before, and you really encouraged me to take a pause. And I'm curious. I feel like I can't Remember exactly what you said to me. So I'm curious if you have any tips for anyone who's like feeling like everything's a lot right now and need to hold themselves in that compassionate pause?

Yeah. If you know there's something to be said about decisions from a plateau in the sense of having all the information. Right. Like, yeah, I have a 20, almost 24 year old daughter and I. And she'll bring things up and I said, data. That's data. And sit in the discomfort for a while because are you lacing up your running shoes? You know, currently it's her job. Right. Are you lacing up your running shoes because there's discomfort that you're not sure how to handle?

Yep.

Right. Is, is it some emotions that need to be processed? Is it your belief that you must remain busy, like get a, an understanding of the lay of the land and look at the data and then make decisions? Because, you know, am I, am I really trying processing this? Am I coming from a place of self? Like, here's the thing. And my other Chad's like, mom, what the heck does self mean? And like we have these conversations all the time and I'm like, self is that place where, where you, where you trust your inner wisdom, that the answers are really coming from your values, your vision, your integrity, the places that you really feel aligned. But if it's coming from a place of fear, a place of maybe I'm going to be rejected. If it's coming from a belief, hang tight, lean in for a while, do the work. Because then what's on the other side is what everybody wants is confidence. Like, everybody's like, I want to feel good, I want to feel confident, I want to feel like I can trust myself. And that's. We gotta give ourselves permission. Whose timeline are we on anyway? Half the time we're on some weirdo timeline that we think like, there's like this. Whose timeline? Most of us are on our own and we're horrible to ourselves.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I always say, like, what is time anyway? Again, bringing a little levity into it all of just like, what is time anyway? Like, what are we in a rush for? I love that you just said the data and the discomfort, it made me, it reminded me of your profile in Human Design. Actually, you've said several things that have reminded me of your profile in Human Design, which is the 13 profile. So the one is the investigator. It's like, let me dive deep, let me find the data, let me find the facts, let me do the Research. You said earlier, I have a huge book. Nerd or. And yes, the ones are always. Let me read more. Let me dive into it. And it's all about building this really solid foundation and then sharing through those facts and sharing through the data. But the three, it's like a really interesting innate contrast because the three is all about experimenting and just trying things and, like, not worrying about the facts and just diving in and doing it. And so it's like this really fascinating contrast of, like, needing the foundations but also needing to jump in. Do you feel that contrast?

Yeah, all the time. Like, my sister, I should probably look up what her human design is, but she's like, she has to have, like, piles and piles and piles of more facts and.

Yeah.

Is. And doesn't act. Whereas for me, that whole experimentation, try, go be in the world thing is. Is really important. Look, I mean, I went from lawyer to coach, and then all I found out that, like, 80% of coaches fail. And I went, well, why? And then I became a cop writer and marketer and learned everything about that and returned back to coaching with a really good toolbox. But, like, it was the permission to sort of move through. So that jives with my one and three. I like, I love. I geek out on things. I love it, but I also need to move.

I love that, like, process you just explained, because I'm like, that feels like such, like the one three in action of like, oh, I'm a coach now. Oh, wait, I'm going to go learn how to be a copywriter. Okay, wait, that's not what I want to do. I'm going to come back over here. But, like, you're just gathering those facts. I love that so much.

It's. It's fun to watch people get uncomfortable because they're like, oh, my God, you're jumping around. Like, I was a lawyer for 17 years. No, not really. Like, this was a needed exploration that. That I did. And I really feel like I found my purpose. And that, to me, is when you talk about that satisfaction that was missing for so much of my life. Yeah, we settled for so much less.

Yeah. Yeah, I can imagine. Year one was incredibly activated when you were a lawyer. I. I think you even just mentioned, like, okay, well, I'm just gonna, like, learn all the things. I'm gonna, like, dive into all the data and, you know, learn as much as I can. Was the three turned on at all, like, that experimenter phase, or was it very much just like, here I am, I'm just learning the things?

No I was really lucky. I mean, if you're going to do federal criminal defense, it's kind of cool because your handshake is still your handshake. Like, it means something. You don't end up with a knife in your back. But what that means is I'm always engaging with different people, and I had to learn, like, one week it was mortgage fraud. One week it was like immigration fraud. One week it was like, there are crimes du jour when the federal government is involved. And so I was like, this is cool. And then, like, you just got to dive in and try something new. And, yeah, criminal was one of those areas that you get to be a little more creative. And so that did get fed. It's just. I think the one got fed more, and I think the three needed some more air and space.

Yeah.

And it just, like, it just never felt quite right is my purpose.

Yeah, I. So the two numbers are conscious meets unconscious. So I find that often the unconscious is the one that tends to need a little bit of air. I love how you phrase that. I can. Is this one of the things you see when you're working with clients who are. Who are navigating that belief of. I feel like I'm broken. Do you feel like there's, like, this unconscious, whether you want to call it intuition, just, like, inner knowing that, like, needs air?

Yeah. Yeah, I think so. And I think. I think it's just that whole part of themselves that they deny, you know, whether it's the good or the bad parts.

Yeah.

Most of us deny our light, really. Most of us deny we can't see our own sort of divine beauty, but it does need to come out. And I sort of joke that my whole career has been about giving people voice, but it is voice to that unconscious part of themselves, that freedom to actually be themselves.

Yeah, I love that. Of just, like, giving voice, giving direction, which. I just had to have a peek at your chart with your channels that you have, and I'm so curious. You have this channel in your design, which is the 1 8. And it's all about creativity. And so much of it is inspiring others to find their direction. And what their creative means is that. I know you work with a lot of business owners. Do you work a lot with kind of activating creativity?

It's interesting. I think I work with activating their strengths. And in turn, that does come out, or it's a little bit their playful sides. You know, it's funny you say that, because I don't know that I owned my own Creativity. My father, who was a doctor, painted, and I have no. I mean, I draw, stack figures seriously. And my daughter's amazing at art, and I move like stick figures. But I had to realize that writing, for me, is actually an art, and that's what has gotten expression. And so I do allow people to lean into their strengths or to own creativity however they choose. But, I mean, it's funny. Yeah. I mean, I, I. I definitely with. With my children, I will say that is something I've hugely fostered.

Yeah. How would you define creativity?

It's really an expression of self to me. You know, my. My daughter, like, paints, was a dancer, like, really cool stuff. And I'm like, totally don't do any of that. And my son is like, more like me. He's a philosopher. He's into, like, whatever. He's a writer. And so whatever his expression is, that's what I kind of foster for them. I think creativity is really any place that you spend time.

Yeah.

Expressing, having fun. You know, it doesn't have to be, like, so many people are so hard on themselves. Like, yeah, maybe my stick figures might be hurt. Who knows, right?

Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I love that you said, like, expression of self. Like, I just think that's such, like, a open way to put that. I also love how much you've talked about your children in this episode today, because your other two channels are these channels of nurturing and just being this, like, natural nurturer, this natural provider just really naturally tuned in to what the community needs, what your connections need, and just really naturally, like, breaking down other people's barriers sometimes without even realizing it. And I feel like you have expressed that in such magical ways with your children that you've shared today.

That's such a nice, nice thing to say. But it is something I love doing. Right. Like, I do this with clients. I'm so. It's funny because I'm protective of what I share with clients about clients. You know, my kids are so used to me talking about them because I want to create a safe space for people. Like, yeah, like, oh, crap, am I gonna end up on a podcast interview? You know?

Yeah.

But I do. To me, that's really the opportunity is. Is to nurture that part of themselves that hasn't maybe been nurtured, because I get it, because mine hasn't either.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, again, I think this, like, circles back to that compassion. Like, I love that that word came up and through. Through what you were sharing. And I do just feel like being in your presence, you do have such, like, a natural, like, warmth and like, nurturing energy. So it is so, so magical to hear how you give voice to that as well. Yeah.

Thank you. It's very kind.

Of course. Is there anything else, speaking of giving voice, anything else you want to give voice to today in this episode? Anything you want to share?

I think this is so cool. Like, I just kind of love how, like, we both come at different ways of people getting to really know themselves. And human design is pretty new for me. I've done the Enneagram, I've done all sorts of other tools and like, I use the Enneagram with clients, but I think this is really neat because if the Enneagram, I mean, the human design has given voice to different parts of me that, you know, other tools hadn't. Like even being a generator and allowing, you know, myself to make react instead of, like, push through the world. Right?

Yeah.

Like, has shifted the way I show up. And so I think what's really cool is that you're giving. You do the same. Like, you give voice. And I think however people get there, like, whatever resonates so important that you just open the box, take a look. It's kind of cool.

I love that. I'm just like, it doesn't matter how you get there. Like, I feel I find people can get so overwhelmed with like, the tools and the things and. And I think part of that is like, if you're living that checkbox life, it's like, well, I'm just going to keep doing the checkbox, but I'm going to do it in a way with a self development bow on it.

Yeah, exactly. Right?

Yeah. And I love that you're like, just open the box and just explore that three shining through again. Just experiment with it.

I. I'll be honest, I was too. You know, I maybe wouldn't have blown up my life had I actually opened the box and looked. I think I was scared of what was going to be in there. And the truth is, is I didn't outrun the feeling of I'm broken. I had to face it at some point in time. And so when you face it, it's far less scary than you think. And I guess I want to sort of share. There's this beautiful art, Japanese art of Kintsugi. And what it is, is it's threading pieces of gold through broken pieces of pottery and rebuilding them together. And I. I want people to really understand that the opportunity of doing the work is. Is like the art of kitsungi Kintsugi in that it allows you to rebuild and thread gold, which is the lessons and the beauty, and come up with something so utterly amazing that wasn't there before. And that's what's possible. The reason you do all this work is to live a life like, of your dreams. I mean, I live in Lisbon, Portugal, right now. I, I, I work and travel. Like, these are the things that I never thought possible. And I stand as, like, I'm not that cool. Like, in the sense that this isn't, like, special that I did it right. It's, it's possible. It's just that I held that possibility, and that's kind of what I want people to walk away with.

Those are such delicious words to come to a close with. Thank you so much for all of your wisdom, all of your brilliance, and all of your just magnetic magic today.

Thank you. It's so fun to hang out with you. I love this.

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