Bitcoin Live with the Power Law & Minotaur Team, #21 8/28/2025

Hi everybody. This is Bitcoin live with the Power Law and monitor team. I am here with Sebastian Marcos and Costa from the Manotor team. And so for the people that have joined for the first time, the show is about analyzing the market using different tools like global liquidity, local liquidity, the Power law tools. And then we also discuss this trading system that we have developed that is based on the Power Law and allows you to get gains on top of your Bitcoin. There is a link where you can learn more about the system. But also if you want to DM me on X, you can do that and I, I can tell you everything about it. Anyway, so let's, let's jump in and let's look at this very nice activity that we are observing in Bitcoin. Let me pull out the indicator I want to show you. That is this one. So this is a brand new indicator. It will be part of a set of indicators. We already have a 15 different indicators and this will be number 16. It's actually multiple indicator at once. Let me see if I can make this a little bit bigger. So what we are seeing here is a few things. So let me explain them. So if you have, if you have follow my post on X in the last several weeks. Basically it's something that I explore before, but I went deeper and now I really think this is kind of a holy grail in understanding Bitcoin. So. So the idea is that if you're focusing on the returns, right? Returns is one of the best thing to understand what an asset does. And returns in my definition is basically the ratio between the price today and the price yesterday, right. So if you're focusing on that the returns over time decay, they are not stable. And this is different from other assets that people may be used to, like gold or silver. You know, most of the stocks, because most of these assets they grow through an exponential relatively slow. Of course, you know, they can have burst like gold recently, but over the long term they fall on exponential. And exponential means stable returns. Constant returns, of course we fluctuate over time, but their average is constant. With Bitcoin we see a decay, but it's actually as explained many times is not a bug is a few feature for Bitcoin because it allow Bitcoin to have temper returns in the beginning. And that attracted, you know, resources, interest, etc. Because people wanted to jump in. And as the asset matures, the returns are still amazing. Right now we are talking about 45 a year. But they, they are going down relatively to where they were before. And in fact, in 10 years from now, they will go down to something close to 22. It will take another 10 years to go down to 17. Because as you go down, they are going down. But they're kind of these diminishing returns are kind of slowing down. You know, they are approximating eventually they there be nothing, but you know, it will be hundreds of years from now. But this slowing down, it kind of that process is also slowing itself. So one quantity that you want to look that is actually constant in time is this decay. Because we can assume that is due to the fact that bitcoin follows up our law. So you can correct this decay using a formula. Because after all, that is the entire idea behind the power law. That Bitcoin has both stochastic behavior, but also as a formula, you can say deterministic behavior and you can calculate what it does over time. So if you correct for that, you get this quantity that I call mutual. It is basically the average behavior of these power loss. It's almost like you're. Because if you divide by these time function, you get these lobes. So it's almost like you're fitting every day a mini power, a mini power law. And they are going all over the place, right? Because sometimes we are higher than the power law, Sometimes we are lower than the power law. I can even show you how that looks like. They look like this. They look like this. So these are daily power loss. What you're seeing here, this green and red vectors. And when is right when it's green means they are steeper than the power law. When they are red, they are slower than the power law. But in average they follow the power law. The mean is the power law. And the distribution how spread these values are is not. The bell curve is something that is much steeper than the bell curve. We say it has heavy tail. So very large values are more likely than in a normal bell curve. That's a distribution that is called t location scale. So I use that particular distribution. I use, you know, the proper statistics. So I calculated mu. I calculated the equivalent of sigma that is a standard deviation. And I get these green lines and I here I'm showing two quantity as lower mu that is average over couple of months and one that is average over few days. Notice how interesting it is that every time this low quantity intersects the range of possible value, right? This is 65% of. It's not like that because it's not a big curve, but kind of roughly 65% of the data is within the green and red line. So anytime we go to very high value in one direction or another, we are actually. We can see high intersection, right intersection with the green line. So plus one sigma corresponds to a cell. You know, like we are too high in price. And like, you know, look at this green dot. The green dot corresponds when we go in the other direction. That is, I take out the slope, maybe that will be easier to see. So, you know, these are good buying and selling points, basically. See, it's very interesting also what focusing on this quantity right Allows you. You basically could say right now, you see, we are up the yellow. The yellow curve is the fast action of these quantity mu. And you can see right now we are 51 relatively to the average. That is basically the global power law. That is six. So that is a measure of how bullish we are. If you go far away from the power law average, it means that we are in a bullish territory. It seems usually when, when we reach this green region, we come back. Unless, you know, in the past, during the bull runs, this value went crazy, went it was. Goes all the way to 200. But we are not doing right now. We are staying within this range. We arrive. It is kind of also what Marcos has shown many times in terms of liquidity. So probably there is some kind of convergence between these indicator as some of the things that Marco shows with the liquidity. Because basically says, you know, if we go too far and reach this value when we correct and vice versa. So right now we are going there, but we are not quite there to where we are supposed to have some kind of a correction. The other thing that we can do with this information is to do what is called Monte Carlo simulations. So basically, using these statistics, the fact that we have a mean, we have a spread of this distribution, we can create alternative paths. So basically, we launch the dice, you can do it for 90 times and you get basically the projection for the next three months. Three, you know, three months. Because these are daily values. And so here I'm showing and you know, some of these paths will be. Will go crazy because it's like launching a dice and you get, you know, 10 times in the row six. It can happen, but it's very unlikely, right? So one of these parts, the most extreme parts that I got, I think I'm running like 500 simulations right now. One of these went all the way here. So in the next month we are going to 178 in kind of mid November. Right. We can make it longer if necessary, but right now we're looking at mid November, Mid November, Price, extreme price, you know, close to 170. This guy gives equal value to deviation up or down. And so it's likely to go also to 90. But this, these are basically the possible extreme, right? The, this brown region is supposed to be green, but we are superimposing to red. This green region tell us more likely path because more. There are many more. Basically these are what this algodo is. It calculates how many of these parts are in a given volume. More there are more likely it is that we go there, right? There are more likely parts. And so I divided in two regions, you know, kind of unlikely and more likely. So the stream of a likely path is more like 148. Now the red area, the red region is the median of all this path. That is nothing else in the power law. So it's really interesting that we can derive a power law not through regression, but actually through averaging all these possible parts of the Monte Carlo. So bottom line, I think we continue to move along this direction. I don't, you know, unless it is a yellow line starts to go way above this green line, we are not going to see any really super bullish behavior. It's possible, but so far the enactment, you know, for a long time for this entire time during the bull run. So we are probably going to stick around the power law until we see sign that that doesn't happen. Even in this case, we can still see in the next couple of months price is all the way to, you know, 140, 150. It's not out of the question. It's there became. And here I'm even giving probability. Like for example is telling me that we can go to 14146, right? Let's say 150 with about 16% probability. So these are some of the analysis that this new indicator give us. It's a very, I think it's a very interesting and useful indicator. All right, so I'm ready to give Marcus the floor. Going to stop this and go ahead. Marcus, please. Marcus. Marcus seems frozen for some reason.

Okay, can you hear me?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to remind everybody, Marcus and Costa are in Dubai right now and it's 4 o' clock in the morning. So you, if you see them a little bit less lively than you usual is because it's crazy, crazy time. So I wanted to thank Marcus and Costa to be here and doing this for our viewers, you know, being here at 4 o' clock in the morning. Thank you. So much, guys, and sorry to put you through this. Okay, Marcus, go ahead, please.

I'm trying to. I'm not getting the share screen option. It's not giving me the option to share my screen.

It doesn't give you the option?

No.

What about now? Do you see it? It should be at the bottom.

All right, let me see. No, it's not existing. Maybe it's because I'm on a mobile device. I'm not sure.

You're using a mobile device?

Yeah, it's a tablet. It usually works like a normal, but I'm not there.

Okay, so cost. Costa shared it.

All right, good.

Okay. Can you use Costa?

Yeah, I can. Okay. Okay, Costa, if you could go to the daily. Please daily time frame and you can put all the liquidity in there. Yeah, there you go. So just based on that, you can zoom out a little bit so we can see the entire range. Yeah. Awesome. So first thing, let's check the liquidity at the top of the zone. We're. We're filling in that 3x. As you notice from the last time we were here, the top of the zone is at 155, more or less. That's 3x up there. And it's already filling in the gap that's going to be necessary to get there. So that's coming along just fine. Let's check the 5x really quickly so you can deselect the 3. Yeah, so the 5x is also filling in. So we're doing good there. So you can, you can put the 3. The 3x back and then let's. Let's move to. So basically when we had the market pullback, we went to, what was it, 107ish. The market made a very hard move to take out to not liquidate that long pool at the bottom there. It. The market aggressively went in that direction, which had everybody thinking that the bull run was over. And that's. But that's the beauty of using liquidity to make our decisions. We were still pretty confident because until that pool gets liqu stated, everything remains intact. So the market went really, really hard. It made a strong impulse move that really had everybody afraid that it was going to, you know, you could, you could check the social crypto verse. Everybody was saying, it's over to double tops. We're going to, you know, to zero. But it wasn't the case. So now we're. We're bouncing off of there really nicely. So that lets us know that the market typically doesn't take two directions at the same time. So we're still liquidating the short positions. And now we have a small pocket of liquidity, internal liquidity. You can see it above the daily. Right. Right before you get to the. The red zone there, there's a tiny little pocket of 25x in there. Do you see it, Costa? Yeah. Can highlight. Yeah, right there. That's our. That's a target. That's internal liquidity. That's an extremely high probability that that'll be liquidated or targeted by the market. So that's the target right now. That's the immediate target, is that. That gives us a clear target to go after. But being. We have to be careful, though, that that can still take that target and come back. That's. That's still a lower high, technically speaking. You were looking at it from a technical analysis, structure analysis. That would be a lower high. What's that number, Costa? I think that's one. 118, 119, 120, something like that. What's the number to that? I can't hear your mic. Oh, I can't hear anybody. All right, well, I'll just narrate. So, yeah, that's the target. And then. Okay, so 121. So even if we get there, we can't get too overly aggressive because we still can come and make a lower. That's a lower high right there, technically speaking. And we can go. We can still make a lower low, which still technically a lower probability now, but there's still a probability that we can still come, take out that long side, pull down to 102, I think. So we just have to be aware of that. But still, it's looking a lot more bullish. So we have two options. We hit that 121, which is in play, and. And pull back to the point of control, which he can't. He's not showing it there, which is about 118 pullback, and then go from there. Or we put in a lower high and make a lower low and go from there. So we have two. Two. Two options there to. To plant two probabilities. But the. The higher probability is this is starting to get bullish, which is a good sign. So the update from Dubai, I just wanted to look at.

I think it's nice to look at the 25X again. I think it's nice to look at the 25.

Yeah.

If I'm. Can you guys hear me? Just to have a look at this pool. Yes. People watching what we do. This move that's happening this morning or this afternoon. I Think let's. Let's just have a quick talk about what that looks like. Yeah, that's on the 25X. You can see that.

Yeah, I'll speak to that. We've been watching that internal pool. That 25x is internal on the daily. That's internal liquidity. So we've been watching that pool for about a week now. It's been developing very, very nicely. So that's definitely an important pool there because that gives the price fuel to start moving higher. The problem with this down move was so swift. After the all time high. You can see that tremendous void of liquidity. There's a void like right to the right. Yeah, that's a huge void of no liquidity there. So the price when it ripped down very, very hard and fast. We need liquidity to start to. To accumulate so we can get back up. That's what's happening now.

That's right here.

That existed before this one built up.

Yeah, we needed that liquidity. We had to stay down low until we have return liquidity for the price to feel itself moving back up. Now we have it. It's coming in. So that's a good sign.

And as you can see how the candles move so aggressively through these sections when they start to take that liquid. Liquid. You can see that price action.

Yeah, it's liquidating it. Yeah, you can really see it. Wait until it built up. And now it's also that top pool.

Above the primary pool is growing as well. I've been paying attention to that, Marcus. That started as a little blip. If you zoom out, it's liquidity running up to around 150k. That little blip is building now. And now it's like beginning to become.

A pool on the 10x or the this one here, you mean? I think this 122.

Yeah.

So. Yeah.

So if you squeeze the chart.

Yeah.

What you'll see if you squeeze the chart. So we can see up to like 150k in price. What you'll see is a pool. See that there? Yeah, there it is. Now that little pool up there, that's around 148. That's really starting to get legs now because that started as nothing. Right, right. That. That's been building also.

Yeah.

And you can see it's merging with. So it's really. It's already merged with a 3X. It's the. When it starts to merge with the higher. With the higher leverage like the 10x and the 5x which is like what happened today. That's when we rip through it, which.

Is the chance and, and the, and the Monte Carlo simulation say that it's kind of a range of possible action, you know, for the next few months. It's kind of like the extreme value. So it's, it's nice to see this convergence, you know.

Yeah, absolutely. That's what we're looking for. Those little blips are the, are the clues, the first, first clues that we, we look for.

Yeah.

So that's very promising. Especially that one at 121. At 121 gives us even more confidence that that's in play. It may not go straight there but.

But definitely there are pools that are also formed below right at 92 and so on. But yeah, I think it's quite unlikely we go there. You know.

It'S just like you said, like we said before, that's the, that's the snacks that it's going to eat on the way back home. That's the home, that's the return home liquidity. They got to have that to go back later.

Exactly.

Yeah, yeah, hopefully, hopefully.

Hopefully we don't, hopefully we don't visit those gas stations right now. That's, that's for coming back home. We don't want to, don't want to tap into that right now.

This is what's really interesting to me is that the power law support is sitting at around. In 2026. It is going to be around this level at this 74, 72K and then correct Giovanni. 2026 November support. What we're seeing here is, is big liquidity pools that have built up and that you can see another one here now. This is going to happen all the way up to as high as the, the all time high is and they're, they're, you know, you can kind of see that there is whatever you want to call it, fried chicken inventory that, that could potentially all the way back down to the power law support which historically has always been retested. Right. So with these pools there, I think people need to be at least prepared of, of a return to the power loss of poor. There is, there is liquidity building there. So I just think it's interesting to watch this play out. I'm actually already taking notes on this now in my trading notes because you can't tend to forget about these things in about 12 months time. So it's interesting to make notes that these things were building up because they do get taken out and we get back to that 70k support then you can look back that the the future has been written in the present. Right. And, and really a long way away. So I, I personally think it's very interesting to, to keep note of.

At least it is the 3X is operating about 33%, 35% away from current price. So it's constantly, this fractal nature of the markets is it's constantly building the liquidity that it needs for all sides at, at the same time. It's just, it's amazing efficient model how it works. Yeah. It's building both sides to come back later. But it's also interesting how it just nicked that top pool. It had everybody thinking it was going down, down, down and it reversed because it's not time yet, then it's not time for those.

No, that's typically what happens. But when people are just looking at candlesticks and not actually. Well, and not only that, it doesn't actually make sense to them why that's happening. Which is people are like, why is this happening? It's got to keep going lower. But you know, they're not understanding why price is bouncing on these levels. Right. And it's simply prices falling into a large number of orders. Right. So when, when you look at it like that, it's kind of like, you know, not predictive, but it gives you x ray vision on where the order book actually is, where the orders are and where price is likely going to move.

Right. Yeah. I love it. I mean it. I sleep at night just focusing on liquidity and price.

She's crazy after kind of looking at the liquidity, thinking what it is like to be looking at charts without it because I spent years not looking at it. Right. In the early days just looking at candlesticks and it's crazy to see it now like how much of an edge it actually gives you in knowing, I guess, where price can go directionally on either side of the book. Right. Long or short.

Yeah. Before I got my brain transplant and I was a retailer. Yeah. I used to look at just indicators and not the liquidity. Liquidity lets me know what is actually happening from a business standpoint. Inventory and selling. That harvest. Acquiring and selling inventory. Yeah.

So what, what do you think are the timescale to reach that red region to take liquidity from there. Are we talking about the next couple of weeks?

Yeah, yeah, we, we should. It should be in play because this is the third impulse. You know, the market loves threes, so this is the number three. So.

Huh.

This one should, this one should be. This one should be the hammer. It should do Some damage. Right.

By looking at that.

Yeah, it loves threes. We've already tapped into it three times, so it might not take it all, but it should. It should really hit it hard, though.

We've been discussing price discovery.

Should get us potentially enough 20 past 155.

Yeah. I don't know if I've never used it on this.

There it is.

20, you know, 169. 170. Potentially. If it goes 15 to 20 more, I think 20 we discussed. Yeah.

Past the 155 level. Yeah. It's got to get. It's kind of clear to 155. So 20 from there.

That would probably be the best. That. That would probably be a really good outcome. Giovanni, what would you say if we get to 174 as a top?

It's in the realm of possibility.

You know, what's it saying on your indicator? 174. What's this? What's the percentage chance in 90 days?

Let's say it's, you know, 5%, but. Yeah, okay.

But it is important the behaviors.

Yeah. What needs to happen is that that yellow curve at the show before needs to start to go to higher values. So if it goes to higher values, then. Yeah, it's possible. If he stays in within that green and red region and not, you know.

So the Monte Carlo. So that simulation that. That indicator has no bias in terms of the. The. The period of the cycle.

Right.

So it's downside and the upside. So it's a little bit. It's more neutral than it should be in this kind of market. Let's say hyper.

It is. Yeah, it is done on purpose. Now we can fix it, you know, if we. If we see what. What. What can be done. Instead of starting right now, we are using basically the total stats instead of using the local stats. So I can add something that I'm going to work on. I can add as an option where you can reach and say, give me the stats that are working now over the last two weeks. That is done on the lower panel where we see the mu for the recent mu, but I'm not using that for the Monte Carlo, but I can put it as an option where use total stats over, you know, basically the history of the coin or use local ones. If you use local ones, then, you know, if we have a very high mu and mu starts to go above, it needs to go in the 20, 30, 40, and that basically shifts the entire distribution and then we have more chance. You will see that is not symmetric, you know, like it is now, but yeah, right now, you know, it works well because basically we have follow a power law very closely. But I will add this option.

Yeah. Should we have a look at the performance?

Yeah, let's look at the algo.

Yeah, so. And then we'll come to you, Sebastian. I just want to go this. Yeah, so one thing I wanted to discuss today is we actually just took profit on the high frequency one that we've set up for this call. What I wanted to discuss and just talk to a lot of people because I know there's, there's people that have just signed up with us and.

I.

Guess when people get a bot they expect it to be doing like a million things at once. I think it's like, it's just a thing that people have in their heads. Like bot means lots of activity. So the last sort of month has, has tested a lot of people's patience because you can see we entered in the 15 August and it's taken till around 10 September to take profit. Now for a lot of people that are running these bots, it looks like nothing's happening. Plenty is happening, it's just happening under the hood. So for us who have been running this for a really long time, this is really exciting because 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 safety orders is almost 5% of the total volume that this bot could ever have. So it's almost like at 50% strength.

Right.

If you can imagine a base order is usually like a 1 to 3% of initial strength. This position is using up 50% of the strength. So with regards to its volume, it's going to be a very significant profit. The thing is with the market being so slow, we can see this range here from the 29th of August until the 5th until the 10th, the action's just quite slow. Right. Nothing really happened. This would have been nice if we took a TP here and reset, but we missed it. Same for here. In an ideal world, it's nice to close these deals a lot faster. But for example, you know, taking this TP here and then resetting and going down would have been nice. Taking a TP here and going down would have been nice. But again, the market doesn't behave in the way you want it to. It behaves. So you can see here that no matter what happened, we were able to take full advantage. It's just patience, right? And sometimes a lot of people, they expect more from, from the strategy, but they have to understand that this is not a high frequency trading strategy. It's it's really using the principles of, Of. Of dca, which. Why it makes it so safe. And we can see here, which is. This is the one with a larger tp. This one entered, this one entered three safety orders, and it's got this really large TP that it's heading to now. So, yeah, I don't know. Did you guys want to. Want to talk about that? Because we, you know, it's funny, we do get new clients or people that haven't been running the Algo for a while. They tend to send us messages during these sort of, let's call them quiet months when the month's a little bit flat. But, you know, rest assured that it's doing what it's supposed to do.

It's just understanding as well that, you know, by the nature of what we're doing here, there's times where you're going to join the program where the conditions are extreme, extremely good. And then there's other times where you're going to join the program where the conditions are flat. And what, what's important to understand is that results need to be given enough time to average out, right? The real expectation and the reality of what you're going to see. And you know, most of the time, you know, it's, it's, it's completely fine, but it's just sometimes, you know, you need to realize that when you're coming into something like this, you know, there needs to be an expectation around longevity in the market and doing this for a long time. You know, this, once again, isn't something that's going to produce you riches overnight. So you need to give it enough breathing room to show its power. And sometimes a couple flat months is not going to do that. Right? It's, it's, it's about the average over a period of time. And at the end of the day, like, I hate to say it, but the truth is it does just come down to emotions. Because if you're feeling upset and annoyed and impatient, like at the end of the day, the system is making gains. You know, just have to allow the breathing room to do its thing and just realize that every system in the world and all of us are still at the behest of bitcoin's volatility, right? And that's the reality of what's going on. And some months, bitcoin is extremely volatile, and other times it's flat. But if you're profiting in any regard in this market, you're already in the top 1%. That's what you need to realize, because most people are daily exit liquidity on the liquidation heat map. Right. So, you know, it's important to understand that as well, that if you're surviving and profiting, you're an anomaly in this market. That. That's the truth.

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

One, one thing I wanted to add is.

Is.

Is.

Yeah, yeah, Sorry. So Giovanni, go ahead now.

Go ahead. Good. Finish your thought.

Yeah, I was just going to say like this, this little move here, you can see is it, you know, it entered this morning and it's about to take profit this morning. So that would be a really, a couple of hours trade, you know, really nice entry and bang. And people love to see, you know, 10 or 10 of them happening in a month. But in reality it's that it's this big slow movement that's able to create all this volume and then take profit here is going to make more, it's going to generate more returns than having five to six of these tiny little base orders that take profit. So one of them gives you the dopamine hit of making lots of trades and closing deals. The other is a bit of a slower grind. But at the end of the day it's all about the absolute returns at the end of the month or at the end of the year. To be honest, judging a month by month is not even fair. Judging it quarter per quarter is much better because things do take time. But it's really cool to see that when the market gives us the opportunity, we take it straight away. As you can see here, we took profit and we've started a deal again. So if the market was to, you know, we entered here at 118 and now we've re entered here at 113. Just gives you an idea that if the market, if this was a bear market, we would now have a huge range to be able to go down even further. And how we're able to actually walk the price down. You can see from this example, the price goes up, we're just going to walk it up. But we're able to also now walk it down. And you know, you can clearly see here that we've made a, a decent profit from a long only strategy and the market has actually gone down. So just remember we entered at 118 and we took profit at 114. So the market's gone down, we're long only and we've made it profitable. Now if you can see the magic in that, then I don't know what's stopping you from joining the program.

And so I'm going to make these a very like, I know that I will get some pushback by, from other influencers, you know, but I'm going to make this almost like a slogan. And the slogan is the time of ordering is over. You know. And what do I mean with that? Well, you can still do oddling and of course that is a foundation, right. It's, it's a little provocative meme. But if you thought of it, just ordering bitcoin unless you have hundreds or thousands of them.

Right.

Is going to change your life. That may be true. If you did that 10 years ago, if you do this now, you know, you, I don't know, every situation is different, right? But if you did it, let's say in the last couple of years. So even since the last cycle, many people join, you know, the bitcoin community. Last cycle you are not going to retire on 1 bitcoin, 2 bitcoin, 3 bitcoin, right? You need to do something a little more active now. You can use this as a wonderful foundation and then try to build around the bitcoin that you're holding. So this system is perfect because you can use it two ways. You can use it where you don't care about bitcoin and you want to make money, you know, to pay your bills or whatever and it gives you an income, right? But the thing that really attracts me is to think about what can you do just by holding bitcoin as a collateral and then get yield on top of that. And this system is perfect for that because FAT is I think is designed for that. Right. The idea is that just to make it clear, particular for the people that didn't follow previous shows, we are not selling bitcoin directly, we are selling futures. So we are using Bitcoin as a collateral. You can do a mixture of usdt, in fact even other crypto if you want. And then you're buying and selling these contracts that are slightly leveraged, you know, with maybe a five pair leverage. And what that does is, is that basically will be the equivalent of just sitting on your bitcoin. But now your bitcoin get multiplied because whatever gains you make from this trading, you can convert it into bitcoin. This is how I do it. And then what way what is to expect? Well, let me give you an example. Even a very tiny 1.5% yield at, per month that this system can do very easily. In fact, I am almost ashamed to tell you what the, the long term averages are because, you know, we don't want to count on them. I want to count on something that is sustainable, 1.5 and feel super confident. And the guys can confirm if this is a number that we, you know, nothing can be sold. 100. So, you know, this is not financial advice. All the things that usually people say, right. But my experience is that I can, I'm pretty sure of a 1.5% amount is something that this system can do. Well, what that means, it means that if you do this for the next 10 years, so, you know, bitcoin has been always a long term game. 10 years is not that far. So you're projecting 10 years, Bitcoin will be already something like 50 pair in 10 years from now. You are multiplying by a factor of five or six. If you get these one 1.5 yield, that means basically you're multiplying your Bitcoin by five. If you start with one Bitcoin, you will have five Bitcoin. And if bitcoin goes know to a million, you can do the rest of the month. Right. So that is the way that you can change your life by holding bitcoin, but also having a system like this that gives you healed. This is the way that every bitcoiner. I'm really strong about this. Unless you already own hundreds or thousands of bitcoin, then it's irrelevant to you. This is what everybody should do. You know, it's really the new way of thinking about what being a bitcoiner is. You need to be a little bit more active. You need to understand that now we have the opportunity with this entire ecosystem around bitcoin to do things like this. You know, we have futures, we have things that we didn't have before. So this is how you use these tools.

Yeah, definitely agree.

Sebastian, what, what, what is your opinion on this?

Yeah, well, that's exactly right. And I think, you know, the reality is that anyone running our system who's run it for enough time knows that 1.5% is, you know, a very, very achievable target. And I think the beautiful thing about what Javon is explaining is that it's really showing the effect of holding your bitcoin and compounding it over time. And on top of that, you know, when you are targeting a return such as 1.5% a month, you can put yourself in a position where the risk is extremely small. Right. And this is something that's important to talk about as well because typically, you know, using your bitcoin as collateral or trying to get meaningful yield on it always takes some form of risk. But, you know, with targets like that, even targeting more than that, you know, the system will handle it in a way where it disperses the capital and allows a lot of the risk to be removed. Now, it doesn't mean there's no risk. There's risk in using any futures market. There's risk in holding Bitcoin. Right. So, like, there's always a risk playing this game. But targeting 1.5 is something, you know, not just that we assume it can do. Historically, all the data we have on our system, we can do more than 1.5% a month. But I love the idea of just going for something small that is achievable and showing what that result can do over time. Because Divine is exactly right. Right. It's not about creating fear and fomo, you know, and saying that, oh, bitcoin, the days are over. But we have to be realistic here, right? We're talking about Bitcoin's price being nearly $120,000, right? We're not talking about Bitcoin being one or $2,000 anymore, guys, right? Even the last cycle, bottom, you know, Bitcoin was 15, 15,000. I mean, we've gone up nearly 700% from there. So we've got to be realistic about. We all know how high Bitcoin can go. But of course, the volatility and the year on year returns are going to dwindle. So the question now becomes, what can we do to actually get ourselves in a position where we can continue to benefit off Bitcoin's rise, but actually make it realistic for people who don't have 10 to 20 million dollars to inject into the market. And the reality is, you know, if you want the yield that Bitcoin used to offer, you have to think outside the box and you have to think of ways to get yield on your Bitcoin in a safe, intelligent way. And, you know, our system is something that you have total control over when it comes to the risk. Right? So this is really important. It. It's not, you know, dialing in some settings and hoping that everything is going to be okay. No, right. You've got total control over where you want your levels. And that's a very unique thing as well. So that's kind of my input on what I think on that, Giovanni. But I love the idea of targeting a small monthly return because in this space, everyone talks about numbers that are insanity, right? Everyone talks about the most insane, ridiculous numbers and people don't actually understand that, you know, when it comes to actually real statistics and real numbers, even 1% a month is incredible. And it's not to say that all of a sudden our system's going to do 1% a month. But the point is, what Giovanni is trying to show is the effect of compounding over time is so powerful that you don't need these ridiculous Ponzi numbers that everyone talks about to achieve a meaningful yield. That's the clear message.

Yes. And please notice that message, right? Because if you hear other advertisement other shows, you know, they always talk about, you know, oh, you can use this thing and you can retire, you know, in a month from now or something like that. It's always a ridiculous stuff, right? But the rigor of what I have pushed for all this time is always, let's focus on the reality. Let's focus on what we are really seeing, you know, and the reality is amazing if you have realistic expectations, you know. So when we are talking about. So I just told you, right, Imagine you can multiply your Bitcoin by 5 and Bitcoin is 15. Following the power law, we are talking about 75 per in 10 year. So that is what some of these kids that are buying, these monkeys, etc, you know, they are, are trying to achieve and then they lose everything. Right? But with bitcoin and with something like this, you know, your chances are realistic. This is actually what realistically you can do with Bitcoin. It's just that, you know, you could do 75 before by just sitting on bitcoin. Now you have to do something a little bit more active. But you know, this why we have an automated system. You don't have to do this by yourself.

Yeah, I think it's what's really interesting is that just, you know, we always say this algorithm is like a Swiss army knife. Now you can set up this algorithm, you can engineer it to make yourself 10, 15amonth, but the wheels are going to come off. The reason why we talk about these, These results of 1 and a half or 2 or 3% per month is that that's when we layer in the power law framework and when we layer in the power law framework we have all our risk management is all defined by Giovanni's work and places the risk levels below the power loss port. So it makes it the most safest model trading model possible within the statistical ranges that Giovanni gives us. Correct Giovanni. And then Those returns become one and a half to 3% a month, sometimes more, sometimes less. That's just the reality. If you Want to, if you want to fly this, this tool as safe as possible using the power law as your guide, they're the returns that you can expect. And what Giovanni is trying to communicate is even Those returns at 1 and a half to 3% a month on a compounding Bitcoin used as collateral, that's all you need to go from a 10x to I think it's almost a 50x in a, in a 10 year period, which is pretty insane.

Fantastic. Okay guys, we have a couple of questions and then maybe we can wrap it up so you guys can go to sleep finally or wake up. What? What are you going to do? Sleep or wake up?

More coffee? No, we've been sleeping.

Okay, so let's look at the question. It's mostly a bunch of nice comments. Thank you guys. Yes, I think so. I think it's actually a pretty focused show where we are talking about what is really happening with Bitcoin. There is this question, maybe one of you guys can answer these.

I can answer this question if you like. So it's a good question. And the way you want to think about Minotaur or is not something that has use with Bybit or Bitget. It's a tool that can actually be plugged into almost any centralized exchange. It's just about understanding that of course in different parts of the world we have different levels of regulation that allow you to do different things. So the algorithm, the way you want to think about it is if there's an exchange out there that allows spot or futures of decent size, there's a highly probable chance we will be able to plug in through an API connection. Just understanding that if you're someone in Australia or someone in the United States, what those two countries can do in terms of trading is vastly different. Right. So it's just understanding where you are located, what regulatory conditions you have to abide by. And either way we can trade spot and futures and both hold a lot of value. Even trading spot is very valuable as well.

So.

So that should answer the question.

We are all trading, all of us are using Buy bit.

What we usually suggest to us users, what is the best solution for us people?

I think we discussed that on a call with them. It's the best. There's too many different ways they can do it and it's best to just have a tailored approach. So just get on a call.

So please guys, with these, an address where you can go and actually watch a seminar, a webinar. And by the way, we are going to do. We are not going to announce it today, but maybe next time we are going to have, I think at least once a month, a dedicated webinar where we can go a little bit deeper. And it will be mostly for people that are interested in the system and they will be invited. So. But we will announce the. But right now. We did do the webinar some time ago. You can go and watch the webinar online and then you can make a call. There is some information on how to follow through and make a call with our team. Okay. And then there is this question. This is for Marcos. We are asking about this bookmark. But yeah, so I give you, Let me give you, yeah, these. So Marcus is using this. This tool is called Trading Different. And so these answer your question. Just use this code and you will get a discount. It's Marcus. It's representing them. You know, you know these guys, right, Marcus?

Yes. They're really cool. You know, we met them at the Bitcoin conference in. Yeah, Tennessee.

I will let this. And you know, you can. By the way, this video is also on YouTube if you want to watch it again or you want to get information from it on my. It's called. My channel is called Quantonomy. You can find it and you can watch this video. But yeah, write down that code because it will give you a discount. Okay. Do we have some more questions? Yeah, this comment.

Oh, yeah, I can talk about this.

Yeah.

Look, the reality is, is that it's quite possible that for a couple of months that's what it's going to do. If the market doesn't give us the opportunity, we can't generate more than that. There are months that it will do significantly more and then it'll average out over a cycle. Like we're talking about a four year cycle. So the numbers that we've done, because we've done a lot of sims, is that our 3% per month target, 3 to 5% per month target target is annualized and averaged over a full bitcoin cycle. That's four years. That means that there are months that have zero percent because we're, we're in a trade like this one here that you can see on the screen. Sometimes it'll do 1%, sometimes it'll do 5.6%. There are months when it'll do as high as 20, even more. These are really rare, but these are when the, the bot is fully deployed. So, you know, to have something that does 3% clockwork is, is, is, is.

Well, it's just not reality. It's this is not like a, you know, we're not talking about, you know, owning a rental property and having a guaranteed income fixed every single month. Right. And I think this is where people get confused. The system can of course produce these numbers, but you have to realize that in a market it's lumpy and you could have a 60 day period with zero gains and then a 12% growth on the account. So like, you know, it needs to just be realized as well that this expectation that the market is going to give you a predictable exact monthly return is actually incorrect. And sometimes it can be very, very lumpy and other times it can be very, very consistent. And the reason for that is because we're trading Bitcoin's volatility and that's something that we can't necessarily predict either. So it's just, you know, being realistic and realizing once again, if you are going to work with us, you know, we're talking about long term sustainable compounding growth for a long period of time. And if you're someone that is going to be watching your account like a hawk and freak out one month in that you haven't made 5%, you've made half a percent, like this might not be for you because you need to be able to give this thing the breathing room it needs to produce meaningful results. This is not a system to be watched and micromanage. This is a system to give you back your freedom and time. Let it do that.

Right?

Let it do that.

Yeah, that's, that's so important. You know, you, you people come to an automated system to get back their freedom and time to not have to do any of the thinking and you know, it's, it's getting you the reason these returns without having to lift a finger. You know, I appreciate what Richard's saying, actually. Thank you for your comments because yeah, like there's nothing to, to hide behind. Like it's, it's, it's executing the way it's supposed to execute. And in our eyes, that's all that matters.

Right?

We are so transparent. Look, we are showing all the trades. We are showing what exactly happens. We are telling you realistic results. We are putting our money where our mouth is because we are trading with these things ourselves, you know? Yeah. And we do these shows where we talk with you, we take any questions. I really literally don't know. I have to think really hard of any other setup like this. I don't know, because there are, I hear, you know, I get bombarded all the time by ads of any Type of all this trading system. Use this, use this other. Try these. And I don't ever see anything like this. Where they are actually doing weekly shows. They are open, we are interact with the public and they also talk about realistic results. Because it's always about how, you know, you can get reach within a very short amount of time and things like that, you know, they're talking about. This is why I talk about 10 years, you know, because.

Yes, yeah, exactly.

It's a long.

Yeah, no, that's right, Giovanni. They'll often post like options trades with pictures after the fact. Right. But it's like, okay, show us the live position. Because anything can be. But so, you know, that's a good point, Giovanni. And you know.

Yeah, I just paused my live trade right now. I say, guys, you know, I'm looking for this. I'm waiting until the price goes 117. When it goes, I will cash in. You know, it's. There is nothing hidden. I, you know, I'm showing exactly what is happening live, moment by moment.

Like this one right here. This is live right now. You can see. There we go.

Ago.

Look how close we are. Yeah, it's.

It's unbelievable, you know. So you can see it right now, right? When the price goes there, this algo will cash in. And then you can take this and buy more bitcoin, you know, instead of, I mean, you can continue to do what you're doing. That is you. Everybody should put a few hundred dollars. It depends on, you know, you're the job and where you are in life. Everybody should do dca. But this is an additional DCA because you are using your bitcoin to actually make bitcoins. It's like crazy, you know, why. Why will you not want to do it now? The only I, if I want to think about the biggest risk is keeping your coins on an exchange, right? You don't have to do this with all your coins. You can do it with a percentage of them. You know, maybe 10, 20. It's an existential risk, limited risk. It's a calculated risk. You know, there are, you know, very. On these exchanges, there are literally billions of dollars now, right? They are much more serious and professional than many years ago. You know, eventually we will have hopefully, you know, some defy solution. The reason why we are not recommending them 100% is because, you know, they don't have a volume. They are not easy to use. But we are going there eventually. You know, then that risk is also gone.

So yeah, that is, yeah, there's Risk in keep. There's risk in storing a seed phrase. There's risk. This, all this game has risk, full stop. You got to choose how to diversify your risk in a smart way. That's the reality.

Okay, guys. Yeah, thank you. I, I Same thing. Yeah, exactly. And this is why I joined this guy because, you know, I like this team and they praise them all the time, you know, with my girlfriend, my friends, because they are real. They are real guys, you know, and, and this is also when they approach me, they actually, I tell this story all the time. They were afraid that I was going to tell everybody what maybe didn't work or whatever, you know. And yeah, if you didn't deliver, this is exactly what I will have done. But it works. And you know, I, I joined the team, you know, so that's our favorite story, isn't it? And same thing with Marcus. Marcus was a customer in the past and then he decided to join, join the team because it works, you know. Anyway, guys, thank you so much to stay with us this Thursday evening and take you guys in Dubai. Hope you continue. When, when are you coming back, guys? Next week.

Next week?

Next week I'll be back.

Okay. And we will be next week to so join us if you want to DM me about the system. DM me if you're on X. Otherwise book a call using that link which show you before. All right, guys, see you next week. Bye.

Thanks everyone.