Live with Minotaur Trading Systems, October 14 2025

Kosta Ouzas walks through how Minotaur's trading bots performed during a Bitcoin crash, showing liquidity heat maps and the new software features. The bots aim for 1-5% monthly returns using power-law support and safety orders, with subscription plans starting soon.
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Pretty sure Giovanni is not going to be coming today because he's in Italy and I've just received a message from Marcus that he's not going to. So it's going to be me on my own. So what I want to do is I just want to play around with this while I'm waiting for some people to join. I've never used restream before on my own, but when we get a few people joining, what I'm going to do is I'm going to go over the recent crash that happened and how the algorithms performed and then I'm going to look at the liquidity and see exactly how that's playing out. It's telling a really interesting story. I'll also dive into the software that we're developing and give some updates when I think everything will be ready because it's getting really close. So yeah, we'll go from there, but let's first jump into the actual algorithms performance. What I've been doing lately is I've been using this really cool replay. So I'm going to put this back to the 30th of September and we're going to come here the first position and we're just basically going to watch the whole month play out. So let me share my screen, which is right here. Okay. So this is the, this is, I would call the more high frequency setup that we have going. This is working really well at the moment for most of our clients. I'm going to put it on and it'll look like this. I think that's better. Cool. So we're currently looking at the beginning of October. As you can see, the take profit on this is around one and a half percent. So it's, it's going to be pretty active. We're also using, it's on the 15 minute here just because it gives us more room to look at, but we can run this on the 10 minute quite effectively as well. So as you can see here, with the market moving up, it's pretty straightforward. What we're doing is we're entering a base order taking profit. Entering base order taking profit. Not the most amount of capital is getting deployed. When we go from a base order to a take profit, it's really the, the initial trade which could be maybe between 1 to 3% of the portfolio depending on, on how we've structured it. But as you can see now we're getting into close to when the crash is going to be. This is actually really good movement. It's exciting to see the P L. Moving up. When you're going, base order, take profit. Base order to take profit. But we're actually going to really make a lot of money when the trades. When we enter more trades like this here. So now we're in two safety orders. We're becoming defensive. So the initial position, it's gone against us. But you can see that green line that the average price is getting brought down. So again, two extra trades, they would have added substantial amount of volume into that trade. And then he took profit again lower down. So that was nice to see. Those are going to be more profitable than the ones before. Let's have a look here. I think now the crush is coming up. So we're in one safety order. There we go. Bang. Look at that beautiful entry there. Could have been a little bit lower. It didn't catch the bottom. That. That. That wick was so quick. You can see where it's. Where it's caught. It actually is around here at around 112. Some of the setups actually did get the bottom. This particular one didn't. But what's interesting is today. Let's just have a look what's going to happen now because we actually. Because that order is a little bit high where you can see where it is. We're able to do a nice little buy today at around 107. So, again, the biggest liquidation event in history. How many people got liquidated? If you take a look at what we're doing, you know, the system barely blinked. I think at this point is using about 9% of total margin. Now we're going to see right now another trade. And bang, there it goes. Now, let's just jump off the replay for a second and just have a look what's going on here. I'm going to bring up the chat because. Hey. Hey, Richard. Yeah, I'm kind of on my own, so I need a little bit of help from people asking questions, and it's going to keep me talking, so. That's right. Can I bring questions up? Yeah. Let me just find a nice little setup for this. No, that's not going to look good. Let me find one I like. Yeah, cool. I'll leave it something like this. This is good. Yeah. So I'm on my fifth safety order now. Great. So you've got six safety orders in total. So the setups that we're giving right now are really, you know, they're going to perform really well in a bull market. We have had to make some changes in. In the settings, and they constantly updated. This is why we encourage people to join the meetings. Everyone knows that this cycle is different and the bull run has, has performed differently. So obviously where the simulations that we did were optimized to previous bull runs, which means that the settings that, that we were using are not performing as they did in the past. Now the very simple thing to do is, is just update the settings, right? There are a few things that we can, a few levers that we can pull at any time to make these adjustments. And what we did, we've actually come up with some great settings now that are working fantastic. Sounds like the ones that Richard here is using. And part of, part of joining our program is staying abreast of any of these kind of updates as well. And let's have a look back here at this entry. So what I really love about what we've done here is entering at 121. Our average order price now is 113. Our take profit is now at 115, which is a really, really good exit on this trade. We've entered 1, 2, 3, 4 safety orders. So the volume here is quite substantial. So even if you had a pretty flat September, which I think most people did the 16th, it took all the way, it took 15 days for this trade to close and then before that and there was a little bit of movement here, but it really took a little bit of time. But, but October has been pretty lively and then we kicked in a lot of action. Now if you were running a more conservative, I guess more of a swing bot, this one would have been very, very, very, very slow. So 14th of August. Now this swing bot, just to let you know, would have performed extremely well if the price was moving up like it does in a poor market, but it hasn't, it's been moving like this, right? So this setting really requires a lot of movement. So again, when this took profit here, if this was a little bit slow for you and the market is, has the market seems to be changing, we just update the settings, right? But anyway, even if you don't, the market will give you opportunity. Like here now, bang, bang, bang. This is a really nice swing. You know, the profit margin here is around 5%. So that'll be a nice big move there if you're running one of those slower swing bots as well. So again, you know, the algorithm itself is a tool and tools need to be understood and you can learn how to use them and, and how to make the best of them. And we provide daily support calls to help you update your settings if you need them. And we also do the weekly streams with Sebastian and Santosh to discuss the latest settings. Now if anyone's here that's waiting for Marcus, unfortunately he just messaged me and. And he's unable to attend. So is anyone. We don't have that many viewers, but if. Is anyone here to see the liquidity heat maps and I can dive into those because we have spoken about them a few times with Marcus and I think I've got a good idea of what's going on. So let's take a look. I think a lot of people are freaking out right now. We can have a look at the fear and greed index. It's around 28, which is really insane considering, you know, bitcoin broke through 100k. What was it this year? It was 125. It's down to 108. Like it's really not that scary. But I guess if you're highly leveraged and you're not using automation and you're having to think about everything, you don't have something set up like this, then of course it can be stressful. But let's dive into the actual heat maps and see what's going on. So I'm going to have a look here first on the four hour, the market's fractal. Let's have a look actually on the daily, what that looks like as well. The daily here looks a little bit scary. But what is not scary is this huge liquidity pool that has been built up here. And as you can see, liquidity that had been built up. You see this gap for quite a long time since June, July has actually been taken out which is this pocket here. Now we can see what actually happened during that event. There was some, some local liquidity here at 25x leverage quite a lot. Market makers then fill the order books and then they take out that liquidity. They use these news events in order to create these spikes and they went down and basically harvested the liquidity that had been waiting and sitting there since June, end of June started July. Now this was a 25x pool. These ones tend to get taken out, right? The ones that kind of sit around the 10x, the 5x and the 3x. We're not too worried about the 3x. That tends to not get taken on these big pullbacks. Sorry. We can go back a little bit back in history and see if we come back to the last tariff news disaster that got us down to 70k. These, these 3x liquidity pools were actually left behind. The one before that was left. The 5x pool generally gets taken out though. You can see that's been taken out there. You can see that that's been taken out there. These 3x pools here I do believe are going to bring us back into bear market territory, but not until this gets taken out. So my macro view on this is that we're going to come down to here eventually because we're going to take out this pool, this pool and this pool. And it also lines up with the power law model that includes the waves. If you can see here, the power law support is going to be around 65K. So if we, if we're following this model again right now, what's going on locally doesn't really matter too much. We're looking at the project, you know, the projections again. I think that this is going to happen. I don't think it's going to hit 200. I think we're probably going to get to the top of this pool, come back here. I really think that we're going to get to the top of that pool. This gap has been filling. These, these orders are there, they're waiting to be taken. The market makers aren't going to let this stay before they come back down. You can see it's quite strong at this one here that it would down on. You can see how, how many orders there were. The red, the yellow, the green had to get taken out. Have a look at the 25X. There's literally all been wiped out, which is a great sign because we're seeing the liquidity here. Pools building up to 128. The fact that we're sitting in a fear and greed at around 28 I think is also a good sign because it's really going to catch everyone unawares. If we're building the 10X, we know that gets taken. We can see bang there how that got taken only a few days ago. We can see that that's, that's the fried chicken Marcus always discusses. And we can see these pools really building at a 5x level. There's a tiny little gap here that's going to be filled. But the 3X also paints a huge picture and, and just remembering as well that on the top side, liquidity, even the 3x gets taken. And then we're kind of going to price discovery. So realistically what I can see happening is the price not going much lower, maybe a little bit. And then eventually really pumping through there. And then at this point here, I think it can play out a few ways it could be a quick spike back down because we are running out of time. All the bitcoin cycles have been, you know, an average between 34 and 38 months from the bottom. I think we're currently at about 35 or 36. So there is a time factor to this. There is a time decay. So this could happen. If we get rid of that line, we could have a brief consolidation and a blow off top. Now that could really get you as high as the 200. It is quite possible. One thing that I thought was interesting is that in the last 45 days, Gold added twice the market cap of bitcoin in just 45 days. So I think this is possible, but there is no evidence of it. As you can see here, there's nothing above here, there's no liquidity there. So anything above this is, is pure speculation. I don't see any evidence that that could happen. Not any real data. I can see models that are showing these tops, but that's different to actually having some data that we can look at. And that's what we have here. So again, if we're running the algorithms, it doesn't really matter what's going on in the price. Price is interesting to talk about, but this system is, is relatively price agnostic. One of the reasons why it is interesting to look at these heat maps is a lot of us are trading with bitcoin, we're using it as collateral and, and obviously if we have a appreciation in, in that underlying bitcoin value, another 50%, that's a tremendous amount of returns in a short amount of time. And then we're conservative, conservatively adding that 2 to 3% per month or more or less depending on the month that the algorithm's doing. And then we're using that to DCA back into bitcoin. So yeah, I'm confident this is going to happen and it's going to happen most likely by December, January. If you've got any questions about that, let me come back and see what everyone's saying. Here we go. Chat overlay. Yeah, guys, I can't. I had to flick black to actually see these. What are you all averaging per month as far as ri? What's your profit factor? What's your max drawdown? So the average per month, I like to say between 1 to 5% depending on your settings. What you need to understand is that the algorithm can actually be endlessly configured. So one of the other ways that you can get more or some, some, some of the ways that people get more returns than Others is just how they manage reserves and their risk management. So for example, to set this up as safe as possible, you'd be putting your liquidation levels below powerless support. So you'd be placing them around here at around 40k. Now, if you were to follow this model and say, look, I don't think the price is going to go to 40k, I think the price is going to go up and it's going to come back down. And I think that, that we're going to follow this, this line. So what you could do then is place your liquidation levels below 65. Now that's a huge difference. 40, 45 to 65. Now the person who sets their liquidation levels and builds their algorithm and their bot based on these reserves is going to get less performance as the person that sets it up. Here is one of the ways that we can increase the returns that the algorithm is producing without affecting the settings. Now again, it's, it goes to say if you lift this up further, you will get more returns. So again, without configuring, reconfiguring any of the settings that we provide or that we think are going to perform in these market conditions, you can manage your reserves to get an increase in performance. Now, of course, everyone has a different access to two additional reserves. So if you are going to be running this at 75 or 65, you need to have access to the capital. In case there is a bear market straight away or a black swan that brings you down here, you need to be able to get in there to intervene. I can also show you in a few minutes how we are building a hedge mode in our, in our actual application, which help mitigate if you don't have reserves, how we'll be able to protect that position regardless, The price at the top of the pool and sorry guys, I'm kind of jumping back and forth, I should actually put on my other screen, but price of the pool is at around 154. So let's just look back here. We saw how much further we went above the pool and 17 to 18%. So if we were to do that again, click here does get us as high as 183. So that's really interesting to look at. What's interesting is it does also align with Giovanni's power law model with the cycles. 184 is pretty damn close. So there are a lot of things telling that this story can still play out and there's still time for it to play out. The one thing is seeing how much money has piled into gold Right. Twice. Two and a half times. The market cap of bitcoin has gone into gold in 45 days. So there is money out there. Now. The increase in price to get us to 180. Still substantial with 70%. So the market cap's around 2. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's about half what just went into gold to get us up to here. So that's pretty interesting to think about. I think my 10 minute bot missed the last safety order you mentioned. Next order at like 107k. Yeah, that happens. It really depends on the, on the time that you set the bot up. So not everyone is going to be completely in sync. So yeah, don't worry about that. That will fix that up eventually. There's another thing I was going to add about that, but I can't remember. Oh, the safety orders. One point I wanted to make is that our algorithm actually is able to outperform traditional dca. The deviation here is actually quite substantial. Let me show you for a second order on a DCA bot. This order, this second order here probably would have come in a little bit earlier, but what we're able to do with our algorithm is basically if, if there's a trend, a downward trend, it's going to try and get a better price. So it's going to have a minimum. That's based on the math, the DCA math. But if it's in a downward trend, it'll wait and hold off, almost like having a trailing stop loss and try to get a better entry. So we've ran our algorithm side by side with traditional DCA bots and it absolutely tears it to shreds because we're able to outperform. And that's also why when you go through the algorithm, we're actually really good at picking these local bottoms. A DCA bot would kind of look more like. The entries would look a little bit more like this, like bang. Like there'd be one there and one there. They just, they just don't look like they're smart. They don't look like they're searching for the perfect entry, whereas ours tend to actually really get a nice entry there. So that's what's unique here as well. I'm just scrolling down through the Chris Sortino ratio. You're gonna have to speak to Sebastian about that. I don't have those details in front of me now. Any questions about the liquidity heat maps? Otherwise I'm going to move on to some other things that I wanted to Discuss. So if you've got questions about that, just post it in the chat. Another thing I wanted to look at is actually our software. So it's getting really close to releasing. So I wanted to give you guys a look at the UI and the design that we've gone with and how that's going to integrate with our strategy. So one of the things I spoke about before was hedging a position. So we've created hedge mode which actually going to allow you to create a hedge. And why would you do that? Well, if we come back to the algorithm and let's just pretend that this is the last order and the parallel support there and say your liquidation level is here and the price is here and your. You're fearing that this is going to happen With a hedge mode, what we can do is we can enter a short position, let's say here, that's the size of this volume, right. And then what we do with the short is we place a stop loss above the take profit level. Right. Basically what happens now is we're delta neutral. That means that the price can splash down here, play around all the way down there. Nothing's going to happen. You're completely delta neutral. What eventually will happen is we'll take profit bang. And then stop loss bang. Now there probably will be a realized loss. It'll be the difference between the stop loss and the take profit. So it will be a losing trade. However, it would have completely predict protected you from a liquidation. It would have protected you no matter what the price did. Bond that. So using this hedge mode is going to be a really cool function and we've built it into our application. That's something that we're going to be teaching our algo users and how they can actually use that. Some other cool things that we've got is we've got a trade GPT. So this is also going to help you design your own algos. You can put in questions like hi, I have 20,000 USDT to create a bot. Please recommend settings. So we really want to put our users in the driver's seat and, and really give you more tools so you can actually deploy this tool in ways that you want. So Trade GPT is going to be trained on our strategy and our logic and then basically give customized feedback and setups for you to use. So you can see here it's giving you a strategy, the accumulator strategy and giving you also more an aggressive one. We're still respecting the power law and the power law support using the dynamic calculation on the calculator. Yeah, so that's a really cool thing as well. We've built our calculator into the software so you won't need to go on trading view to use that. So you'll be able to build everything in there. We're also going to have a calendar that's going to have training and courses and you can see it on a weekly and a monthly. And we've got Saverio, who's actually going to be taking classes on risk management, engineering the bots and mastering the tools. So again, we really want to help clients get into a position where they can build the bots themselves. We also have a knowledge section. A lot of people have asked about the manual and this is basically where we're going to be building in the manual. So there'll be a knowledge section that will be a how to guide that will cover absolutely everything that we do. We also have a really cool dashboard for you to be able to view your assets. And also the display for the P and L is really nice. You can see it like this, the summary P and L is great. I don't have any of the bots connected, so you can't see those, but you'll be able to click on those individually as well. Another thing is an announcement section obviously, so we don't. You don't miss any announcements. And these banners are really cool because we're going to be able to speak with you directly. We realize that email kind of sucks these days, especially if you want to reach out to clients. One place where everyone will be will be in here because everyone wants to see how much money they're making. So we're going to be able to communicate with you through these banners and also inviting you to sort of webinars that we're building. You can see this one here. So yeah, that kind of covers what we're doing with the software. Yeah, it's really awesome. So Sebastian's actually in live testing at the moment, so it's actually done. We're just connecting every single exchange, setting up bots and running the orders. And once we're happy with that, we'll start rolling it out. The subscription will cost. This whole subscription at the moment is going to cost around $97 a month. So you won't have to join it if you have the algorithm. But you know it's going to be a much better tool for the strategy than the other things that you're using. And we're making it really nice, nice looking as well. So yeah, it's going to be around $97 a month. So you get the algorithm for life and then if you choose to use our software, you use our software as well. Another exciting thing. Yeah, release date, honestly, it's going to be this year. We're live testing it now. So however that I'm waiting for Sebastian to test it enough to say it's ready to go. So the software itself is working. We just need to make sure that all the exchanges are executing the orders properly. And then one cool thing that we're doing is we're actually going to be doing a direct connection. We've done a deal with a exchange. It's actually a non KYC exchange. It's one of the oldest exchanges and it's going to allow pretty much anyone internationally from anywhere in the world to run our system, our algorithms with pretty much no friction. So that's going to be set up directly through our software as well. So with regards to that, you will have to have our software to make that connection. This will replace Wonder Trading. Absolutely. Yeah. You can say it's so much nicer than one to trading and it's designed specifically for the system as well. So there will be a little bit of a rolling from those into that. But again, you don't have to use this like you can, you can still stay with Wonder Trading if you prefer. So no one's forcing you to jump on our software. We just think it's a little bit. Well, it's just better looking. It's going to be better. It's more. It's built for our strategy. That's what I'm trying to say. So we're really excited about that. It's taken about a year to get this file, so we're really excited. Awesome. I've kind of covered the main points I wanted to cover today. Actually, I haven't. One more thing I wanted to discuss was this the price action right now. Just so you don't get too scared, because I know everyone's scared right now, this is a good sign. We had this build up and it's getting taken out. And why did this build up? Well, because when the market went to here, everyone went 25x long and they entered all these trades and the market makers aren't going to let them get away with that trade. So when the market gets, you know, got to here everyone into these trades and there was not enough on the top side yet, so they've taken it out. So this drop is kind of expected. What I'm not too worried about is all this is gone. So there's not much liquidity that can drive us much lower. If we open up on the 10X, you know, we already had the chance to take this pull out. We didn't. I guess again it'd be nice for Marcus to jump in here if the 10x got taken out. You know, we can see this line here at 99. If, if this was to happen, I think if we got to 90k, it would be game over. And I think there has to be liquidity there on the way back down, which is what's going to happen. Otherwise there's no reason for the price to come back in a bear market. So something has to stay. So I'm going to say that I think that we're taking out this, this, this liquidity here and we're going to chase this local liquidity because this local liquidity, these 25xs get taken out much faster than these bigger pools and we're much closer to that. So I think we're going to get up here and then again if we have a look on the four hour, we can just see these, this huge pool above. When you add everything in, it just looks like the tops just got to get taken. Right? It just has to get taken. It's just getting red hot. So my eye is drawn to here, not to hear yet. I still believe we're going to come down to these levels. I really do. If anyone thinks there's not going to be a bare market, I just want you to look at this right here. Like if, if, if a market is capable of doing this right, how can there be a super cycle doesn't look, look at this. In, in one candle. It's gigantic, right? 19 billion liquidations. This is a highly leveraged market. There are going to be bubbles forever. That's my opinion. So you need to be prepared and you need to fight fire with fire. That's why we use algorithms. Not scared. Good. I'm not scared either. Trading view will be necessary. Right, because that's how we share the algorithm with you. So basically we're just creating the app to replace the algorithm. So that's all. To, to replace wonder training. That's all. So you still need the algorithm. Anyone have any thoughts about my diagnosis? I know usually Marcus covers this, but I thought I'd give my opinion since no one else is, is here today. And yeah, if you're not a client yet, you can use that Schedule a call. QR code in the top left to book a call with one of our team. If you want to discuss anything we've spoken about on this live stream. Otherwise I think I've covered everything I need to. So if I don't have any questions, I'll just. I'm gonna sign off, wish you all a good day and a good weekend and hopefully the Minotaur team should be available next week and we'll have a full show with Sebastian and Markers and when Giovanni is back from Italy, we'll get back on the regular time slot as well. But I know it's been a while and I wanted to have some time to discuss things with you and maybe we can just. Have a look back on the algo again. I've kind of been doing this little bit lately. I'm kind of really happy about how this. Let's go show you again. Bang. I'm just gonna play one more time. It's just really. This is really cool to me to look at because we spent so many, so much time. If it was taking that acre, does it keep dropping from there? I've just. 80k look, look, potentially. So to come back to this, I think that I think a black swan could push through all this liquidity. It could like think of like the worst thing that could happen. If the worst thing could happen, this could happen, right? It is highly possible. And, and this is the reason why our algorithm is protected all the way down to the power law support. So the fundamental risk management that we give to everyone is that at any moment you need to be prepared to defend all the way down to power or support. Right? Any risks you take above parallel support have to be conscious risks. Now it's extremely low risk, right? It's extremely low risk, but there is a risk, it does exist. So we can either protect the position with reserves or we use a hedging position. Now if that doesn't happen, then we're going to see it happen in the next bear market. We're going to go up, we're going to go back down. But our position is always be ready to protect to the power of support. If you can protect to the power of support, you're going to survive anything. You're going to see 40k coming a mile away. So my answer to that, to that is it's possible that it goes to 80k, it's possible that it goes all the way to 40k. I think it's highly unlikely, but you need to be prepared, especially if you're running any kind of trading system. So we are, we are coming at this from the most safest perspective. Possible. And what's really cool is we can still generate 1 to 3% a month, if not more, at these levels. Now, this is going to really get you that 3%. If you're up at these levels 65 to 70, it's going to almost guarantee that that will be happening, that at least 3%. But again, a trade can take a while to close. So when we talk about the returns, it could be annualized. You can still have a 1% month or even a month that does nothing if the trade is stuck. So we can't control the volatility of bitcoin. This is not a clock. Right. But eventually the opportunity will present itself. And just to go through that again, this is what that looks like. Very, very boring. Not much money being made. Right. But everything is engineered to survive the disasters. And then when the disasters come, we're one of the few people that get liquidated. I like to say that 100% of nothing is still nothing. Right. So if you're trying to chase aggressive returns, the market will humble you. Right. This is why we do what we do. And sometimes that's very difficult to communicate with clients who want faster money. But then what happens is this. And those people get liquidated. So I'd prefer to be one of the ones that survives, because this game is all about survival. There's enough volatility here to make plenty of money, even if you're running things incredibly safely. But just have a look at this. Bang. That wiped out $19 billion. We barely blinked an eye. I can't communicate that point enough. Right. This system is structured and engineered so well, but we can't force returns. Right. We have to just wait and be patient. The algorithm will deliver when the time comes. That's basically the most important mess. Yeah, so that's a good question, Richard. So the reason we have six safety orders right now is because of. Because we're in an upward moving market. We don't. We're going to be. We don't want to have too many orders because you're going to be having too many. Too much funds in reserves. So what we do instead is we cut off the bottom three orders. So instead of going to 10, we only do six. But then your liquidation price will be below Power Law support. So if there was a black swan that crashed the market down to Power law support support, you're just not going to do anything. But the thing is, because we're in a bullish environment, there's a higher chance that we're going to rebound quickly and eventually you'll come back into your profit. So the worst thing that will happen is you'll just be stuck in that trade for a while, which is fine. And there are also ways for us to generate income doing other things. If we are stuck in a trade we can also close these trades manually. But the algorithm is just going to sit on its hands and wait. So again, the reason you've got that set up is to make sure that we're deploying the capital in the right places at the right time. That we're not over protecting the bottom side that might not get there but we are still respecting the power law support. We're just not waiting to deploy funds in that 80k 70k zone because if you did crash into those levels, the best thing to do is just do nothing. So that's why that setups like that. So again, know when, when the bull market is over, you know we're going to do these live streams and I think once the price is around 160 to 180, you're going to want to have, you want to have, you're going to want to change those settings. You're going to want to stretch that out so you can deploy more capital. Right. So just keep in mind the settings that you've got right now are set up for this environment. The environment's going to change and then we're going to change the settings. This is why we recommend that everyone attends the meetings weekly with Sebastian if you're a client so you can actually do discuss all this with you. We're also going to be in our app communicating this a lot more and hopefully on these, we'll be doing these live streams as well. So I can communicate this as much as possible. We really want to get the education aspect of this. It's really important to us that everyone that's a client fully understands how to, how, how, how the tool is engineered and, and how the logic and reasoning is working behind, behind it. We spend so much time thinking about this and sometimes we're not able to communicate it fast enough to people. But I know people like you Richard, who are joining these live streams all the time. You're probably getting a good understanding of how everything works. Some people don't, don't spend as much time. So yeah, I think that pretty much covers it. Again, not too worried. I think we're going to see the market moving up into the, what did we say that local liquidity that's sitting around Daily 119. I think it's around 119. I think we're going to start seeing those prices again soon. It's probably going to take towards the end of October. Then we have the Fed meeting coming up. I think if that's. Well, it is going to be a rate cut, depending how big that will be as well. That's another reason for the price to move. Awesome. Thank you. Yeah, I think, I think we'll. I really want to just spend a bit of time talking and communicating what we do and what I don't want is, is everyone to rely on us for the settings so much. You know, we're running, we're running simulations that give us the historically the best settings that performed in this environment. But you have to remember that the current environment is always changing. It's not so much about having the perfect settings. What's really fundamental about the algorithm is using the power law support as a way to protect yourself and then you're able to play around with the settings. And one of the things that we're going to advise or one of the things that we can do, especially with our application, it's going to be a lot easier to set up multiple bots. So instead of relying on one bot to deliver all your results, you can set up a few different. You set up some settings that, that are, you know, different take profit levels, different deviations levels that are all have the same risk management structure. They're still using the same strategy, but one of them will be making money when another one isn't and another one will be making money when another one isn't. So something's always working and I think it'll take the pressure off having one bot which people I think sort of hyper focus on one bot and if it's not performing, they think something's broken. But from our experience running this with clients for over two years is that it's rarely anything is ever broken. It's usually that the expectations of one bot aren't meeting the current market condition. So what worked last year or last month might not be working in the particular two, three weeks that you're running it. So that's another thing. But we want to make sure that you can actually build these bots yourself. We don't think you need to get on a support call call and get someone to set it up. It's really basic to do and, but I do think that we've underd delivered from an a manual perspective, a knowledge perspective that we need to provide you guys with the documents and training so you can learn really easily how to do this yourselves. So, Hey, hey, look, the best thing to do is scan the QR code and book a call with my team. Let us talk to you directly. And if, if you want to talk with one of our customers, we can hook something up. But, but we need to kind of speak to you first before we share any of our customers with you. We're not going to get someone to just call yourself, so schedule a call with my team and you can discuss it with them as well. Yeah, Richard, you can run a million bots with the algo. That's the thing. Like, you can set up as many bots as you want. The algorithm is the tool, the bots are just the execution. So again, that's probably not something we've explained well, but this is, this is one of the reasons why our software is going to, it's going to present our strategy much, much better and much easier to understand. And we can provide all that training in there as well. Another thing we've learned is we give the course and no one really watches those videos because they rush to just getting the bot set up, which is completely understandable. However, we can, by having our own app, we can create those classes and the knowledge section to hopefully get people more involved in the learning process about it. I think I'll leave it at that. This is my first live stream, actually, that I've done on my own with the Minotaur brand. So I think I can continue doing these. Going through the weekly or monthly performance and just answering questions that that clients have. Yeah, I, I get it, Singh, but we're not going to get a customer to speak to you until we've spoken to you, because there's also a lot of crazy people in the world. So we need to make sure that you're one of the people that we'd actually want to speak with one of our clients. So you can definitely do that. Unless Richard wants to call you. Richard, feel free to call singed on 808-852-1119 if you want to talk to him about it. Otherwise, you know, we need to talk to you first before we send you to any of our customers. But we're more than happy for you to talk to some of our customers. We just need to make sure that, that you're the type of person that we actually want speaking to our customers as well. It works both ways. That's something people really understand. Yeah, I, I can, I can take ownership on that, Richard, that we, we've under delivered. It's just because we've been waiting for this app to be released. We didn't want to do things, we didn't want to do it and then have to redo it. So we kind of left a hole but now we're getting on top of it. And I really like the calendar and how Severo is going to be holding classes that people can just jump in and you know, we're going to have like how to build a bot class or how risk class or how to run how to how to hedge a position class. So everything will be covered and you can just jump in and out. So yeah, it's going to be really exciting. Gains on gains. Yeah, that's the double upside. Right. When you're using bitcoin as collateral, you're getting gains on gains. So I don't really mind if the bot is deliver is under delivering in a bull, in a bull market because I'm holding bitcoin mostly. But then what I'll do is I will rotate out of bitcoin into stablecoins and then I'll just run the algorithm on the stable coins because even if bitcoin continues to go up, I'll still be able to get exposure to that upside by trading Bitcoin itself. So I'm, I'm one of those people that will cycle in and out of bitcoin. But I'm also, you know, this is my full time job. So that's, that's interesting when it happens. I'm still 100% in Bitcoin right now. So if the bot is doing one and a half, 2% a month, I'm really happy with that. And I'm still buying bitcoin at these levels. Obviously with what just happened in October with the crash, this will be a really good month. Also personally I'm running my liquidation levels at 65k because I'm following the power law model and I'm future projecting where I think the price is going to go. So I kind of, so I, I do have my liquidations at those levels. Sounds good. Yeah, no, don't really see that it's actually performing perfectly. So the take probably percent over adjusting break even or first base order. So that from the break even it's always based off the break even. Awesome guys. Thanks so much for joining the, the live stream. I'll leave it at that. If you want to learn more and you're a client, just join Sebastian's calls on Wednesdays. Wednesday's Australian time. I'm not sure what that is. If it's in the Morning in America, but, but he really covers he really deep dives into the settings that we can use. All right. Thanks a lot. And I'll.










