Episode 43 - Debasis Sil

Hello everyone and welcome to a new episode of Veerai's Wellness Podcast. Today we have Debashish Sill with us. Debashish is a third generation entrepreneur. He is a founder himself. He is an author, NLP coach, and rewiring mentor. So welcome, Debashish. We are so pleased to have you today at our episode.

Welcome. Thank you, Neetu.

Great. So, Devashish, we have heard about this big thing that you have been part of, the Million Dollar Roundtable. It sounds like something really big, and everybody would want to be a part of that table that you were. But would you let us know more about what it is and maybe how we can become a part of it?

Basically, Million Dollar Roundtable is world's largest organization for financial professionals. So this is based out of US, and only the best professionals across the world, which includes 70 countries, are a member of this particular organization. So if you are a financial consultant, you are most welcome to perform and then be a part of it.

Okay, all right. So, uh, I mean, how has it been your journey? So you said that you were part of Million Dollar Roundtable, and then there has been something that happened, and then you went through a transformation journey yourself. Could you tell us more about that?

Yeah, basically this is my family business. We are placed in over 17 countries in the world. So, but, uh, I am still a Million Dollar Roundtable member though. But then, uh, after COVID, I was thinking of doing something different, doing— going out of— out of the sight of the people and then working completely from unknown territories and then get some money out of it. So because traveling is my passion, I floated Kodowe Technologies, which is a software company. Then my father passed away, and everything that can happen happened. Murphy's Law, you know, if anything that can go wrong will go wrong. Whenever something goes wrong, everything collapses, which is a good thing, by the way. It is only when I learned that, that is, that was the best thing that had ever happened to me.

Yeah, I keep saying that about myself as well, that, you know, when I was diagnosed with clinical depression, at that time, of course, it was very difficult. But once it is over, I feel, and I say to people, that I think I needed that because that was something that has made me a better person. And I've grown personally so much after that particular incidence. Had I not been through that journey possibly I have not been able to be this productive and so growth-oriented in my mindset. So basically, sometimes we need that push of, you know, being in the deepest of deep ocean and feeling the lowest of low so that we can come back from there, right? So tell me, how NLP happened to you? Why NLP? Because you already had an established business, you have a family business, you are founder yourself. What made you venture into NLP?

NLP was purely by accident, you know. And as we all say, there are no accidents. It was destined. So when I was on the lowest of lows, as you said, when Murphy's Law hit me pretty badly, I needed something to latch on to. And then by God's grace, YSR came into my life. So that's how NLP came in. I wanted to heal myself. So, wiser helped me. And then because of NLP, I found a completely different me. I'm not now a much wiser person, a much more content person within. And it has exponentially given me a huge mental growth. That's how NLP came into being in my life.

And I think that was also your trigger to write the book that you wrote about the Millionaire Mindset, right? So tell us more about that Millionaire Focus Mindset book. I also have that book and I've read it, but I think our audience would like to hear from your mouth that what is that book about and why should they pick it up.

Yeah, I mean, the best part of Millionaire Focus Mindset, when I wrote it, was based out of only one thing, that is my conviction, is that your worst time is the best time that you have, because only worst times teaching the most valuable lessons in life, and from those lessons you learn and you grow. So that book is all about focusing your mind to a better solution when you are on the lowest of lows, because there are basically two mind frames that you have. One is a victimhood mind frame, which is called learning mind frame. Then you come out of it. You learn that thing and come out of it. So this book is all about this, to how to use your worst time into your best favor.

Great, great. So how do you manage so many things like Kodowa Technologies? You are an author, you are also mentoring people, you are into coaching, you take workshops. How are you managing all these things together? I mean, do you have like a particular timetable a schedule that you manage? How are you managing all this thing? Because it must be impacting a lot, uh, you, to you, you know, uh, in your relationships, because time is limited, right? So if there's so much to handle, how do you handle all this?

You know, when I looked at the millionaires around us in the world, there are a lot of successful people. How do they manage? I mean, our Prime Minister, the Prime Ministers, I mean, all the Top-notch people, the corporates, the entrepreneurs, how do they manage such big things? I mean, they have got a huge industry, you know, a palatial kind of a money, they have a fortune. Why not we? I'm doing a very, you know, what I am doing is I'm segregating my time into certain blocks. and then I work accordingly. Of course, not always it goes on plan, but then it helps me come out of it. And I set priorities in my life. So priority is a very important thing. Then I go with them also, and I tell them, when all people are sleeping, I work. So because you need to have some time for yourself when you're working on a mental peace, you know, the phone calls and everything should be off.

Right. I'm sure to have this kind of setup, you have like a very great team working behind, because without them you wouldn't have this kind of time schedule. So tell us a little about how do you create these teams, uh, because I think it really impacts a lot the kind of people work, uh, you know, we work with. Uh, how do you select these people? What do you do to keep them motivated? What is that driving factor for them to work for you?

Actually, a fact, you know, because in my family business, the investment consultancy business that I have, we have a whole lot of team working and they are really, really, you know, good and passionate about the job. And they help the clients because they've got over 5,000 clients across the world. So their calls, their everything needs to be taken care of on a priority basis, you know. So the team works and I only, you give them that touch. Because only escalation comes to me as far as service is concerned. Otherwise, they take care of everything. My Codeware business, my software business, is completely based off my passion. Or mera passion hai kuna. So I do not, you know, confine my employees also to stay in one place. My, my software company is completely based out of work from anywhere. Not from work from home, it's work from anywhere. My employees are in different states of India, so they're working from their own time. Anytime they can work, I need the job to be done. They can work at 2 o'clock in the morning, they can work at 4 PM in the evening, whenever they want. That's how it works.

Wow, great. Tell us more about this financial services company that you have, like what are the, you know, work that you are doing over there, because this is from 3 generations. I'm sure it's pretty established, and having 5,000 clients is also a big deal. So I mean, you know, tell us more about that.

Yeah, my grandfather started it. It was pre-independence, actually. So then my father took it to the next level. And now we are two brothers, we are both into it. And then both of us are MDRTs. And then we're taking this business to the next level because we are completely online. We have— we reach clients, we service clients from all the four continents, not the five continents. So like, I take care of US and Canada, my brother takes care of Africa and Europe. So this is how we work. And mostly now it's done over Zoom, over, you know, telecalling, WhatsApp and everything. So we deal in mutual funds, we deal in insurance and health insurance, life insurance. These are the products that we deal in. Wow.

So tell me, to manage and be a founder, entrepreneur, and running such multiple businesses, Where did you develop this mindset from? Was it like passed on through generations from your family, or is it something that you have built yourself from ground up?

Yeah, I think it's passed on from my family because me toh vin jara hoon. I am a traveler, so I travel a lot. But then yes, I think the gene is passed on from my father, grandfather, and all. Yeah.

Any particular thing that you remember your grandfather or your father used to tell you as a child that you still remember and which has like really impacted to do in your life.

Yeah, you know, during when I was pretty young, in my school days, I was very kind of short-tempered. So I remember one thing my dad said. He asked me to throw the ball on the wall, on a very softly. So I threw it and then it just fell in front of me. And then he picked the ball again and gave it to me. Then now he told me that throw it a bit harder. So I threw it and it came back to me. Then he said, throw it much harder. So I then again threw the ball and it just hit me on my face. So then I asked, what is this? He told me, this ball is like the energy. Whatever energy you give, is it— if it is positive, if it is negative, if you do not give it properly, it will not come to you. If you give it in the right quantum it will come back to you. And if your energy is much more, it will hit you very badly. You know, if hatred is there, any negative emotion you give, it will hit you extremely hard. Any positive emotion you give, it will hit you extremely hard. So you choose your emotion towards the other people and then give it out, because you'll get back what you give. It changed my life.

Yeah, it can change anybody's life. And having that kind of person at home, I mean, I think this is like really a blessing to have somebody with that kind of mindset around you in your house, and that to your father. So I mean, anything else that you remember from your grandfather that you might have picked up apart from what your father said? Because I'm sure your father also learned it from his own father.

No, when my grandfather passed away, very young. I was in class 6 or 7, but I remember the night he passed out. He passed away when he was dying. When he was on his deathbed, we were all there surrounding him, and the doctor came. He shook hands with the doctor and said, Doctor, thank you very much for all the services you have given to us. And don't worry, I'm leaving my son and my grandsons, everybody here, and they are all well placed. So I'm going off happily, and he was actually smiling. And it was surprising to me that a person who's dying was, you know, shaking hands with his doctor and was so happy. And he passed away peacefully. It was amazing to me. I still remember that day. So that is something I learned from him.

I think this is something we all need to learn from someone so mindful, somebody who's actually happy on his deathbed. Is this not what we all want to achieve finally in our life, that if we look back from our deathbed, said, uh, we feel that I have lived my life to the fullest. I think you have seen it in person. It must have been like really— I'm getting goosebumps right now that somebody could actually— you could actually witness this in front of your eyes. That's super, superb. So tell us, you know, I mean, uh, in your entire this journey and, you know, What is your advice for someone who is like constantly struggling, constantly hustling? Since you are also, you know, into multiple businesses, if somebody has to take care of their well-being, what is your top advice to them?

First is accept everything that comes your way. If we do not accept, if we resist, because you cannot stop it by thinking negative, you cannot stop it by just saying I don't want it, it will come to you. It will hit you hard and it will hit you extremely badly. The more you resist it, the more it will hit you badly. The moment you accept it, even the worst times will be your best times. You can sail smoothly because that's destined. Whatever is happening in our lives is destined to happen. If you believe in that, you'll sail through. We all will sail through. I've been to the worst of my times. I've been to the best of my times. And now I celebrate both the things. Superb.

Superb. Probably that is why you also started Kodoweb because you wanted to explore more things in life and, uh, you know, give your best into whatever you wanted to give. Tell us a little more about how Kodoweb helps, uh, somebody like if, say for example, I am a founder or any founder who's watching this show. How do you help them? And why CODO Web? Why not something else?

It went like this, because I was from a long time thinking of doing something virtual, because our virtual world is much bigger than our real world right now. I mean, there are thousands of followers we have, people we do not even know. And the business, the money, the kind of money is there in the virtual world. From a business perspective, I'm talking only. It's humongous. We cannot even fathom the kind of money we can earn from online business. And for coaches, for small shop owners, if they are earning 1 lakh a month, they can actually earn 10 lakh a month. Because the coaches can actually, you know, only be— their periphery is only limited to where they stay. But the moment they go online, they start earning money like hell. It's raining money out there. We just need to go to the right place to find the right people to connect. And in Codeware, because the kind of prices that we do the business with, we want everybody to have a slice of the $27 trillion economy that is going to happen in 2027. That's huge.

That's huge. And anybody who's watching this show, please reach out to Kodo Web Technologies, to Devashish Sale, because, uh, I mean, the prices he's mentioned, I have also taken his, uh, you know, prices, and I'm contemplating working with him for my virtual presence. Uh, so I'm sure it's going to like really give you a big jump start to the business and also help it grow. So thank you, thank you so much for starting Kodo Web Technologies, uh, Devashish. One last piece of advice that you want to leave the audience with which will help them take care of their well-being? Which will help them create a better life for themselves.

Now, a couple of years back, just not a couple, maybe 2023, it's a real-life example from my life. I'll just share that with you. It's a personal experience, but I'll share it anyway. I was traveling to a place called Doers in West Bengal. I mean, those who are based out of here, Darjeeling, you must be knowing. So I was traveling there, and it was early in the morning, around 5 o'clock. I was going to catch the train. So I, me and my wife was on the car, and suddenly we met with an accident, a severe accident. We couldn't go make that trip because my wife had to be admitted in the hospital, and it was a huge accident. We just leave. Then the moment my wife came out of the hospital, because she loves South Indian food, we started celebrating. I took her to a— first I took her to a South Indian restaurant, and then in the evening when his dad came, I— both of us went to celebrate, having drinks with him. So my point, that point of time, everybody was surprised. I treated the whole family very— I mean, people were telling me, what are you doing? Why is it so? I said, look, we need to see the upside of every story. We lived, we didn't die. So this is what celebrating.

Wow.

If it had been to somebody else, they would have thought, why me? I said, why not me? So we lived through, that was an experience. We celebrated that experience.

Wow. So basically, you chose the best out of the worst experience.

Yeah. I mean, celebrate every experience in your life.

Celebrate everything that we can. That's with that. I'll tell everyone that whatever experience we are having, we need to find the best out of it. What is the positive outcome? And celebrate the positive outcome even in the worst and worst of situations, because that is how we build life. And I think with that, we bring this to a close. Thank you so much, Devashish. For coming today and having this conversation. I'm sure the audience has a lot to take away from this, and it might make a difference in their life. Thank you for making this impact.

Thank you, Neetu. Thanks for inviting me in, and it is always a pleasure knowing you. Cheers, ma'am.

Great. Thank you. Bye-bye.