Gumfather & Oil Pulling Guru’s Ultimate Oral Tips

Don't believe it. You cannot reverse conversation.

Hell no.

That's a hell no too.

Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to the most exciting episode in be the guru of your own wellness. Because today we are actually be doing our first live interview with the world famous Dr. Miles Madison. AKA most of you know him as Gumfather, the famous gum father. Not just from Texas, TikTok, but all around. He's Gumfather for a reason. And I will give the opportunity for Miles Madison to tell why are you called the Gump father? What made you famous as a gump father? What made you actually come into TikTok? And he's, by the way, for people who don't know, he is world famous periodontists. Periodontists are people who take care of the gums. So please go ahead.

Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here.

Thank you.

And I'm happy. I'm like the first actual live host in this beautiful studio that you guys have. So thank you. I'm very excited about it. The name Gunfather actually was kind of a serendipitous way that it came about is, you know, I was posting things on TikTok and some of my posts had gone viral. And one of my daughter's friends called and he had a question about his dental care. And he told my daughter, hey, is the Gunfather there?

I want to talk to him.

So as soon as I heard that, I was like, wow, that's such a cool moniker. I think I'm gonna adopt it. So that's how I became the Gumfather.

So why gums? Why are gums even important? Because everybody wants to see the shiny teeth. Give us the importance of gums. Sure.

So the gums and the bone that support the teeth are the foundation of a healthy, you know, beautiful smile. Obviously, the teeth is what we focus on and is what people generally notice about somebody when they first meet them. But if the gums and the bone that supports them, if they're not healthy, doesn't matter what's going on on top. So it's kind of like the foundation to a house. You know, you got to have that in right order so then you can have and enjoy a beautiful.

So literally, you could have a sand castle that would blow with the wind if there were no strong gums.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, the expression is white teeth and rotten gums. You know, you can have like beautiful looking teeth, but if the foundation's not there, if the house has termites, you know, things are eventually going to fall Apart.

So what made you come up with a moniker? Hell no. What you're famous for.

Hell no. Hell no. Hell no. Hell no was again, it's not something that I typically use in my everyday life. You know, when we were doing our very first post, my daughter was actually doing the video, and she's like, dad, you gotta get upset. And I said, you know, I'm not an angry dude. She goes, I know, but you gotta have show some emotion. So I looked at, there was like, a box of charcoal toothpaste. And I said, well, I hate charcoal. This thing sucks for oral health. Excuse my language. So I took the, you know, box of charcoal toothpaste and I tossed it and I said, charcoal? Hell no. And then it stuck. So.

So now half the country knows you as the Hell no dog.

I know. It's like anywhere I go, people just come up to me and they're like, hell no.

Actually, you should have bought us some hell no caps today. That would have been amazing. He's got 500 hell no caps in his office. When I went there, I said, I want to go there and check his office out. I even got a cleaning done at his office. Amazing office in Beverly Hills, by the way. So he had those hell no caps. I have one at home still. So, by the way, I'm going to talk today about a lot of controversial things in the market, and I'll come to oil pulling, too, because that's also one of the controversial things. A lot of dentists come and talk negatively about oil pulling. But before I go there, I want to talk to you today about the most pressing topic, which is fluoride. There is fluoride in the water. There is fluoride in the toothpaste. And I want to know what is your opinion on fluoride?

So, I mean, one thing we know for sure, and it's a matter of scientific fact, fact is that fluoride makes teeth much more resistant to acids. And it's the acids that cause cavities. Okay? So it's irrefutable that fluoride strengthens enamel in that sense. So this we know now is the manner in which you use the fluoride. If you use it in a topical manner, such as in toothpaste or fluoride varnishes, where there is no systemic absorption. So you're not ingesting it, you're not taking into your body. I believe it's 100% safe. In fact, you know, my kids grew up on fluoride. We still do fluoride treatments in the office, and I have no reservations about it. The controversy comes if you're ingesting or if you're swallowing or eating the toothpaste or the fluoride. And that's where, you know, the data is a little bit controversial because there's so many. Some data that if you have fluoride, it can cause neurotoxicity, it can cause lower IQs, although these studies are not really fully vetted. And there were so many confounding factors that makes very difficult to understand if what they saw was just from the fluoride or if there's other things going on. So if somebody wants to be on the safe side, they shouldn't be ingesting fluoride. So if you're drinking fluoridated water, you may want to think that strategy, although I don't really think there is an issue with that. But that's the one area where we might need more research. But as far as it being in toothpaste or, you know, in mouthwashes, again, as long as you're not ingesting it, nobody should be ingesting any of their oral care products anyway. It doesn't matter it has fluoride or no fluoride, then I feel it's.

It's 100% safe. But there is a little bit of sublingual absorption whenever it is in the mouth. So a little bit goes in anyways. So don't you think a buildup would be there when you keep doing a toothpaste for next 50 years with fluoride?

I think that absorption is so small that you can get that same level of absorption if you have grapes or if you have tea. You know, I mean, fluoride is a naturally occurring substance anyway. So nobody can have zero fluoride in their life. And humans have evolved with that in our soil and with our water and our food. So I don't think it's causing issues. And, you know, it's been used for the past 50 years, and we haven't really seen an increased incidence ever. All of these things that people claim that it does, you know, I'm not opposed to fluoride.

Are you using a fluoride toothpaste?

I use a fluoride toothpaste.

Got you. What is your opinion on hydroxyapatite? Now? There are two kind of hydroxyapatites, micro and nano. Right. This is, again, a huge controversial thing.

You're either prone to gum disease or prone to cavities, or you're prone to both. Right. So these are the big issues that we're trying to fight and prevent. So if somebody is prone to cavities or they're in a family that's prone to cavities, because cavities run in families, then they definitely need something, an anti cavity ingredient in their toothpaste. So whether it's fluoride or hydroxyapatite, they need something. So if somebody's prone to cavities, they need to consider using one of these two options. If you're not prone to cavities, doesn't matter. You can use one of these, what's called natural products, which doesn't have any active ingredients and you're probably going to be okay. But you need to know your makeup before you make that decision. Number one, going back to hydroxy versus nano hydroxyapatite. So I know most of the research that shows hydroxyapatite helps remine teeth has been done on nano hydroxyapatite. So I think probably if somebody wants to have this anti cavity effect, they should consider using nano hydroxy. But you know, I know the micro crystalline of hydroxyapatite also has benefits, but I don't know if we have enough long term data on that as much as we do on nano hydroxy.

So I have a study that I can share with you later on where the micro hydroxyapatite has actually now become so small that it is not nano, but it is right above the nano structure and it literally works similar to a nano. So I will actually share with you a toothpaste where when you use it just one time, you'll see sensitivity gone.

Hydroxyapatite is great for people that have sensitivity.

So with nano there's a lot of controversy of nano actually getting inside your vital organs. That is one of the reasons that as a company we yet did not venture into it, although we are doing a lot more study. And then when people talk about NASA using it. So I actually contacted NASA and I could not find any data where any astronaut actually used the product. They did invent the product, but then they sold the product patent to Apaguard in Japan and the Japanese started using it as a commercial product for last 30, 40, 50 years. But they really, because fluoride is a no no in Japan so they don't believe in fluoride. So they normally started using nano hydroxyapatite. But then Europe came out with some studies against it. It's been a little bit of a controversial situation. Although the Japanese live in blue zones, I wanted to remain on the safe side. Do you have any study that you have done on that behalf?

Well, I know the Europeans looked at it very closely and it is. Nanohydroxyapatite is available in Europe too. I think it's too early to tell, to be honest with you. I know like you said in Japan, they've used it for a long time and as far as I'm aware, there aren't any adverse reactions to it. But I think the jury is still out.

Nano also has either a sword shape particle or it has a spherical particle. The sword shape, they say is the bad guy. The spherical has a lot of data of safety. So the sword shaped particles. Now the problem is most of the people who are putting nano, some people are putting 5%, 10% nano. They're not really detailing whether it is sword shape or whether it is spherical, which is making it very worrisome because there is a lot of data against the sword shape. Nano hydroxypedide, there's a lot of good data on spherical shape. So that's another controversy. And nobody is actually talking about that. When they add, they just write nano hydroxy.

Which is why, I mean, I think there's a lot of issues in general with oral care products. I mean, your company is a little different because you're very upfront about the ingredients and the flavorings and everything that you put in your products. But in general it's like a black box. Nobody knows what actually is in like a pack of toothpaste or mouthwash that we use, you know, because there's no regulation with some of this stuff. I know, even me, like when I contact companies and I try to ask them like, what's percentage of your, this ingredient, that ingredient, they won't tell me. So. Yeah. So this is an area that I think just by being transparent, talking about it, hopefully there'll be more awareness.

So number two thing I want to talk about is Xylitol.

Yes.

There is a couple of dentists who come on Instagram and talk so negatively about Xylitol. And then there is certain older dentists who are all about Xylitol. And I personally have been using xylitol in all my products for a long, long, long time.

Yes.

And I use it every day. What is your take on xylitol?

So, so Xylitol, I think is one of the most underutilized products in dentistry. I'm all for it. As you know, xylitol specifically attacks strep mutants, which is the biggest bad guy when it comes to cavity causing agents. So it's great for that, you know, we do a lot of salivary testing so we actually see what composition of bacteria people have in their office. And if we put them on some sort of a xylitol product, we selectively reduce strep mutants and we leave everything else.

That's amazing.

Right. So I'm a big fan of xylitol, but like you said, you know, you gotta have a certain concentration of the xylitol for it to be effective.

I agree. Less than 10% is not useless. It's like somebody came to me and said, I want a cup of tea. And what if I put a cup of tea with one dip in it and gave it to you? It's not going to be tea. So similarly, people put 0.5% xylitol and they call it zweve xylitol. It's useless. So you need a high percentage of xylitol for it to work.

Yes, that is also like proven that it does work. I think the controversy comes from there was some research that some of these sugar alcohols, which xylitol is a part of, can increase clotting in certain populations. But again, you got to be ingesting a large amount of xylitol. And like I said before, you don't want to be ingesting any of this stuff anyway. You want to spit out your mouthwash, you want to spit out your oil pulling, you want to spit out everything. So you shouldn't be ingesting a ton of this stuff anyway. And if you're following the directions properly, I don't see any issues.

I agree. Even if you ingest salt water, that's also going to mess you up anyways. Or any, anything water, water can be.

A poison if you have too much of it.

So I'm going to ask you one other question about that is very controversial nowadays, is about mercury filling. Because back in the day they used to have mercury fillings. Lately, holistic dentists have been talking about the problems with mercury filling. And they even say that you should take them out in a safe way. Can you kind of shed us some light on that?

So you know what we call mercury or silver fillings or amalgam, it's basically a mixture of some metallic particles that were bound together by mercury. You know, back in the day when we didn't have other restorative options for making, you know, doing fillings, mercury served its purpose. It sealed the tooth, it didn't break down over time and it was relatively easy and inexpensive. But nowadays that we have much better restorative options. I think mercury fillings should be a thing of the past and just, you know, they belong in historical, historical archives. I don't think this is something that people should be using on a daily basis.

What do people do when. If they have them, and they are very worried that they are going to slowly come and poison them or something.

So once the amalgam or the mercury or the silver filling is placed in the mouth, and once it sets, it doesn't really release mercury vapor because it's all bound down. You know, it's like it's a solid structure. So I'm not worried about people getting mercury poisoning or increasing their blood levels if they have fillings in their mouth. So I wouldn't proactively go and take them out now. If, obviously, if you have a cavity, if they're broken, absolutely, you should change them, but if they're serving you well, just leave it alone. I wouldn't go necessarily after taking them out to replace them.

Another very controversial question I always see is about root canal. There's one set of people who are talking about root can root canal, how important it is. And nowadays root canal is almost becoming like a bypass surgery or like a angioplasty, as they can say, the moment you go to a hospital with a little chest pain, they said, oh, you got to get an angioplasty done. And then there was a report saying 90% of the people who got angioplasty done could have been treated otherwise. Is that the same case with root canal? Secondly, are there other possible infection issues that can actually be the final outcome of root canal? What is your experience with that?

Right, So I think the people that are actively on this social media downplaying root canals or actually vilifying root canals are charlatans. I'm not gonna mince words. I think they're just after people's money because they're using this avenue to generate money for themselves. Now, I'm a periodontist. I'm an implant surgeon. So my incentive would. Would actually be to tell people that they should take out any tooth that has the root canal, because that's how I make my living. But, you know, as an honest human being, that's not something I would do. So root canals can have issues if they're not done properly, like anything else. Like, a filling can have an issue, but if it's done the way it's supposed to be done, it helps get rid of infections, not induce infections. And this whole idea that the Root canal is a dead body part. And it's the only dead body part that you leave is completely, completely, you know, asinine and stupid, for lack of a word. Because, you know, you're removing the internals of the tooth, but all of the life cells that hold the tooth in place are still there. So the tooth is, you know, live and living, and the body's not recognizing it as a dead, you know, object. It's just the money grab. I'm just gonna leave it at that. It's just because I. I saw a.

Video the other day and it. The video actually was really vilifying it. And I even called our friend, right, Fred Mananpur. By the way, guys, in case you're looking for a really good root canal guy, I'll tell you, there's a one good guy in Beverly Hills, Fred Mananpur. He's also somebody who introduced Miles Madison to me first time. And if you're looking for implant or any type of gum issues, this is the best.

Thank you.

Another question I have is when it comes to DIY dentistry, a lot of people have their own tools and all their stuff that they bring home, and they're trying to do stuff themselves. How dangerous could it be? Could it cause infections? Is it okay to do it?

I'm not a fan. I think, you know, we go to school for like 10, 12 years and, you know, through pretty intense training because this stuff's not easy to do. I've seen people cause serious damage to their own health and to their own teeth. So I, I would be very, very cautious following people's, you know, some of these DYI dentists.

And what about these teeth aligners? There's two companies. One is like Invisalign, which most dentists nowadays recommend using. If you are trying to fix your teeth, then there are other companies which one of them has gotten bankrupt. I think it used to be called SmileDirect. You could just take a scan. What was the difference? A lot of people actually are confused.

Yes. With those types of, in home, let's say, services. We also saw a lot of damage to people's teeth because when a person comes in for Invisalign, you know, we do a whole pre ortho assessment of their health, of their gums and their teeth to make sure that their teeth can handle this, number one. Number two, you know, the orthodontist or the dentist is seeing that person at least once a month clinically checking them to make sure they're not having any issues, and then making course corrections. If needed. Whereas with these other companies, they would just, you know, send you all these aligners and things could go south really fast and the patients didn't, had no idea. And I think that that was their downfall eventually was there was just too much damage that was done. Straightening teeth looks like it's a non invasive and kind of like a brainless type of operation, but it's actually very, very nuanced and if it's not done right, can cause like a lifetime of issues. I'm all for affordability, but those things usually come at a much higher cost. You know, you may pay a little bit less in the beginning, but you end up needing two or three other specialists to put your back together. So I would say, hell no to that.

That's what we want to know. A lot of people, when they go to the dentist, the dentist would check their pocket size and say, number three, number four, number two, number three.

Right.

What is that and what. Why is it so important? And what are the tricks to get it better? Or can they even be reversed?

Right. So one of the tools we use to assess somebody's periodontal or gum health is what's called the periodontal probe. And periodontal probe, like you can imagine, it's a very small ruler and it has millimeter markings. So what we do is like if you imagine this being your tooth and this is this cuff of tissue is your gum, you know, we insert this probe very gently between the gum and the tooth and measure how far it goes under the gum line. So if it only goes 1 to 2 to 3 millimeters, that's a healthy environment because you can still, when you brush or when you floss your teeth, you can clean the plaque away when it's only that deep. But when plaque is not cleaned off the teeth and it sits there, it causes a detachment between the gum and the tooth. So that measurement goes from like a 2 to a 3 to a 4 to a 5. And when it reaches 4 or above, it's impossible to clean it at home. Doesn't matter what you're doing, you can't get that plaque out. So then that plaque just sits there and then causes all kinds of other issues. So that's why it's so important that every time you go in that somebody measures your gum pocket.

So back in the day, I used to be four and a five. Right. Now when I came to your office, your girl, and I think you checked it too, it was like mostly 2 and 3.

Right.

So what caused that reversal? Sure.

So when it's about, let's say two to four. You have what's called gingivitis, which is the earliest form of gum disease. And fortunately the gingivitis is reversible and you can reverse it with good oral hygiene practice at home. And you can also reverse it with getting like a professional cleaning, that type of thing. Gingivitis is mostly inflammation of your gum. So your gums like swell up a little bit and then if you remove the bacteria properly, that swelling goes down and then measurements go back to normal. So in your case you probably had gingivitis and because of all the things that you do at home, you got rid of the bacteria that were causing that and then your body went back to normal. So it kind of healed itself.

So the things that I do, tell me if you approve of these. I oil pull every morning.

Yes.

And normally I oil pull with advanced oil pulling that we have, which is sesame oil base or once in a while I oil pill with a cinnamon ashwagandha one. After that I brush my teeth and I use a non fluoride hydroxyapatite toothpaste. We have one. I floss my teeth with a string floss. We have expandable floss and I'll actually ask your opinion on that. Then I go ahead and water floss.

And so this is all in the morning.

In the morning I do oil pulling and brushing. Yes, that's it. In the evening I continue doing it with a floss, water floss and I even use our, the new dual chamber breath harmonizer.

Right.

Because it has oxygen capability where it is oxygenating all the anaerobic bacteria.

Right.

And I feel like when I wake up in the morning that my mouth is pretty fresh.

Right.

And I feel very good overall.

Yes.

So it might be just a feeling, but what is it that I'm doing that I can do better?

So I don't think it's just a feeling because when I checked you, your gums and teeth look were very healthy. So first of all, congratulations, you're doing a great job. What I recommend people do is very similar to what you're doing. I don't want to overwhelm people with too many things, you know, and if you follow like some of these influencers, you know, they have you do this and then that and then this and it becomes like a, like a full time job just taking care of your teeth. And I don't ever want to overwhelm anybody. So I do something similar to you. I don't oil pull, but I do Recommend people that form this sticky, thick plaque. You know, some people, doesn't matter how well they brush or floss, they still have all this, this plaque buildup. I think oil pulling is a game changer for those because the oil softens up the plaque, so it makes it a lot easier to brush it off. So I think it's very, you know, it's really a good product for those people. And then at night, you. Yeah, you either string floss or water floss. And the nuance of the difference there is, if you're cavity prone, you should be flossing with a string floss. If you're gum disease prone, nothing beats a water floss or for you. So people always ask, which one should I do, this one or that one? It really depends what your issue is. Right. And if you can do both, that's even better. And then you brush your teeth, you know, and then you can use some, you know, a mouthwash like you're using. If you're having, you know, bad breath issues or, you know, if you have cavities, you can then use a mouthwash that has something that will help fight those issues. So you're doing everything exactly like how you should.

The reason I started doing the water flosser was because whenever even I use the string floss, I did not go under the gum.

Right.

I did it by tick, tick, like click, click, even though I wanted to do under the gum, but it was impossible.

So flossing is a very difficult thing to teach. In fact, there's a bunch of studies that show that only 10 to 15% of people, even after we teach them how to do it, actually do it the right way. So because of that, I think water flossing is game changer. Yes, game changer. It's way easier to water floss effectively than to floss. So in my practice, everybody uses an electric toothbrush and everybody uses a water flosser.

So again, a very interesting question. Electric toothbrush versus a manual toothbrush like butter on gums.

Yes.

I personally, which I love butter and.

Gums, is my go to manual brush.

Thank you. Thank you. I actually have been watching your videos where you've talked about how hard bristles killing the gums of America. Can you actually talk about that before we go to electric tooth pressure?

Yes. So one of the main issues that causes gum recession. So gum recession is different than gum disease. Gum recession is when you mechanically or some, you know, through some process, you break down your own gum tissue and the gums start receding. I would say 70% of gum recession is caused by over brushing or using bristles that are too full, firm, and they're like sandpaper. They just basically take down your gums. Anybody that brushes their teeth with a manual toothbrush has to use a soft bristle toothbrush. I know in the market, you know, they have medium and some people even have firm. There's no reason to use those ever. Those are causing harm. So the soft and, you know, like the butter and gum brushes like that, I'm a huge fan because it cleans effectively, but it's not damaging your teeth and your gums.

So my dad used to actually say, don't scrub, just rub.

Right.

People don't realize they've got to use a toothbrush twice a day for a lifetime. Lifetime. And after 30, 40,000 usages, that scrubbing takes the toll on enamel, which cannot be replaced, and gums, which cannot be replaced unless you do surgery on it.

Right. Which is another thing that some influencers on TikTok and Instagram talk about their system that can reverse gum recession. Don't believe it. You cannot reverse combination.

Hell no.

That's a hell no too.

So can you talk about the mouthwashes in the market? There are a lot of mouthwashes. I saw you take alcohol mouthwash, a big brand, and put it in the bin and said, hell no, that's where it belongs. So what is the reason?

So a lot of these products are very acidic. Just, you know, and I did PH testing, and this is not something, again, that us dentists are aware of. You know. You know, dentists, we don't take a dental product course when you're in dental school. So most of us are going based on the same information that, you know, the consumer learns from. So, you know, when these big brands spend all this money and they say, oh, this is the product that you should give your patients. You know, as dentists, we're like, okay. You know, they have the science, they have the, you know, the technology. It must be good. But when you really look under the hood, you're like, oh my God, like, what is this? So a lot of these products are almost as acidic as vinegar. So if somebody's rinsing with it twice a day, they're destroying, you know, their enamel, they're causing gum recession. So just from that point of view, it's a hell no. It's like you don't want to use acidic products every day, number one. Number two, having disinfectants in your oral.

Care products like alcohol.

Alcohol or, you know, anything that they claim kills 99.9% of your germs. That's a huge hell no. Because we know that the microbiome, which is the community of all the bacteria that live in the mouth, actually help us in many, many ways and they're working with our body. And this idea that you're going to take a nuclear bomb to take care.

Of, you know, and eradicate some of the friends.

Right. Of your friends because you're after a couple of bad guys makes zero sense. And I think we've seen this toll that it's taken on the American oral health because, you know, gum disease and cavities are 100% preventable, yet 90% of the population has either gum disease or cavities. So something is totally off.

So what is the reason that ada, which is a huge organization, American Dental.

You're going to get me trouble now.

Okay, we won't talk about it. Okay, we can.

No, no, no, it's okay. I'll answer that question.

So why is it that ADA approves those big gas.

From my understanding is ADA seal of approval means that it's not causing harm, that it's safe to use.

But if it is 2.7 or 3.4 pH, if it has 25% alcohol content or something, that will kill 99.9% bad bacteria and kill your entire microbiome. How is it not causing harm or is it actually not causing harm?

You would have to ask the ADA that question. I don't know.

Okay, ada, this question is for you. I'm not going to go after that either. I want to stay in business still. So that said, did we miss out on any other major hell nos? Can you listen? Like four top hell nos.

Four top hell Nos. Well, number one is the biggest hell no is you shouldn't be using antiseptics on a regular basis. Now, if there is a need for antiseptic for maybe a week or two weeks to rebalance your microbiome, because let's say your mouth has been taken over by bad bacteria, then you can use it. But using it long term for a lifetime, it's a huge hell no. One second thing is a lot of these whitening toothpastes are basically toothpaste that have a lot of abrasives in them and they remove like some of the artificial stains that we have on our teeth, but they don't really remove the stains that go deeper. And in the long run they can actually make our enamel more porous and more open for getting more stained. So most whitening toothpaste on the market are a big hell no. Also no. No. No whitening. No hell no. The next big thing is some of these at home services that, you know, people are doing. Like I said, I'm all for affordability, but at what cost? You know, I think it's better to let a professional take care of your health care than, you know, try to do it at home. And the last thing is unfold. Fortunately, with social media, there's a lot of trends and there's a lot of people that are trying to sell you. They, you know, their opening is, you know, you shouldn't do this because this is gonna happen. But if you really look underneath the message, then they try to sell you something that unproven, unsuccessful. And those guys as a whole, those influencers that are trying to trick people, that's a huge hell no.

Thank you. This was amazing, guys. It is important to know what you can use and what you cannot because you got to be the guru of your own wellness at the end of the day. And before I actually come to the final conclusion, I would like to ask you two questions that are selfishly very important to me. Number one, your point of view on oil pulling and number two, your point of view on mouth taping. Because I'm doing, doing both of these personally. Yes, every single day. And I actually have seen benefit. For example, I was told by my original dentist to go to Fred Monpour, who's become a big friend, to go get root canal done. And after I rigorously started doing oil pulling, I was able to avoid it. And you can ask Fred about it. And I mouth tape and I feel like I have much lesser dry mouth in the morning. I just feel I slept a little better. So do you think these are just TikTok trends or do you feel there is some validity according to you? I've also shown you some clinicals on oil pulling. We are doing some clinicals here, but not yet in the.

Yeah, let me start with mouth taping. So I'm a fan of mouth taping because nasal breathing is very important for our overall health. We know that if you breathe through your mouth, especially when you're sleeping, the nitric oxide levels of your body are much higher. And nitric oxide is what regulates our blood pressure and our overall well being. So if the tape helps to not mouth breathe and breathe through your nose, then it's absolutely a huge benefit. And in fact, I mouth tape since, you know, for the past three or four months, because I had gotten in the habit of, you know, breathing through my mouth. And not only was it drying out my mouth, but I wasn't really getting a rest sleep because I had to get up and have a sip of water. So since I started mouth taping, I sleep through the night and I'm much more refreshed in the morning. So I'm a huge fan. But like anything else, it's got its nuances. You know, you can't just mouth tape if you have like sleep apnea or something like that. So in general, if you feel like you're opening, you know, your mouth too much or you're waking up with dry mouth, I'm a huge fan. I love it. Yes. Big. Hell yeah.

What about this one?

So oil pulling, like I said, I think it has a lot of benefits. I love that it's not an antiseptic. It's not killing and wiping out the entire, you know, bacteria that are in the mouth. It probably is a little bit of a probiotic. So it actually feeds the good bacteria. And because it's oil, it emulsifies it. It kind of like breaks down the plaque so it becomes easier to remove. So from that aspect, I love everything about oil. Now, as far as the claims that it can reverse full blown gum disease, it can reverse cavities, it can, you know, do this and that, that, you know, is not proven. These claims aren't made by people.

These are all claims.

Right.

People who can go on Internet and say any kind of claims. I've never made any claims like that.

Right, I understand.

I. What I personally have felt is, let's say if I don't do it for a week, I still start to get a little sensitivity in the area, one part of my mouth. And the moment I started back, it's gone.

Yeah.

And I feel much cleaner and I feel like I've actually really accomplished my entire mouth cleaning.

Another subset of patients that I recommend the oil pulling to is people that have dry mouth, especially before bedtime. If they oil pull, it keeps their mouth lubricated overnight so they don't feel like everything's sticking together. So from that aspect, I really like this too.

Thank you today for coming to our studios and actually blessing it. You're the first person. Thank you so much. In our studio. First professional, by the way, for all the listeners, in case you did not know, Dr. Miles Madison is on Beverly Drive in Beverly Hills. We're going to be putting his address in the comment section.

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