Don't Lie to Get Women (from a DSO Live Stream)
24 Jan 2025 · 5 min
A caller named Barry says he has to lie to attract women. The host argues that lying about having kids, your age, or your job backfires. Honesty about who you are actually attracts people who value experience and warmth, while lies create short-term wins but long-term failure.
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