Episode 417: Tips for a Healthier Tomorrow with Natural Wellness

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Hello everyone, this is Rebecca Greene for the Whiny Plousa Podcast, and I am very excited today because I get to speak with the lovely Kate McGuire. Kate, thank you so much for doing this with me today.

Oh, I'm thrilled to be here. Thank you. So nice to be here.

I'm so happy you're here. And I have— I told her I have so many questions to ask her, but first I want to tell you about her. She's a fantastic lady. She's a dynamic entrepreneur, a devoted mother, and passionate advocate for natural health. After experiencing the limitations of conventional medicine in her 20s, she turned to natural solutions and transformed her well-being. Now, with over 20 years of experience in the natural products industry, she's the founder of Benison, a natural immune support supplement, and a champion for self-advocacy in healthcare. Kate empowers women to prioritize their health, embrace natural approaches, and have honest conversations about well-being with their families and healthcare providers. And we all need Kate, and we all need her awesome information and I, you know, my brain is swirling with so many things I can ask her, but I want to start with, I want to know what was your turning point in your health journey that led you to explore natural solutions? I would love to know this.

Yeah, well, I mean, I was a, now I would say a young kid, but no, I wasn't. I was about 26, 27. And, you know, I was just in between I guess not jobs, just trying to find out what I was supposed to be doing with my life, as I'm sure many 20-year-olds are. And I'd done lots of things and I'd experienced, you know, just life like anybody, like all the ups and downs that life brings you, right? Like your relationships, your financial woes, your, your health, and, and you're just trying to get it all right. And so in my mid-20s, I was feeling really overwhelmed and I, I wasn't what I perceived as coping with it well. But when I look back, actually that's what you're doing is you're coping and that is okay. Like that's what life is. It throws struggles and we cope and we manage and it's not gonna be perfect all the time. So I did go see my regular doctor and told her how I was feeling. And my regular medical practitioner, fantastic doctor, I adore her. But you know, the only options she really had for me were prescription medications. And yeah, and the things I was describing to her fell in line with anxiety and depression. And I just knew, you know, I knew there had to be another road. I'd seen, you know, medications used on other family members for mood. And, you know, my impression was not positive. So I felt that there had to be other answers out there to help with what really, when I look back, was just dealing with life. Like, right, it was just life and the ups and downs of life and trying to navigate that. And so what I felt was really powerful was that back then as a kid in my 20s, you know, not a kid, a young woman, I could have easily just ended up on a pill. And I had also seen that in my life with other people. And sometimes it becomes a lifelong commitment. And once you start, you know, on that road, it's hard to unravel it. So I did go see a naturopathic doctor, and I will say it was absolutely life-changing because she opened my mind to— I mean, first of all, it was just the person she is as a naturopathic doctor. She was more than just prescribing natural medicine to me. She, she was able to show me that, you know, you're just going through stuff like everybody else. And, and yeah, we have solutions for this. And, you know, a year later, my life was totally changed. You know, I was dealing with the stress and anxiety that we all deal with in a more positive way. And that's what led me to natural health because Natural health is a mindset. It's activities that can help you, things that can center you, calm the mind, calm the body, and nutrition as well is so critical. So I always knew that I liked being healthy and I was interested in health, but this really changed things for me, that your health is literally your wealth. Like, if you don't have a healthy mind, a healthy body, a healthy soul, healthy relationships, like it all is falling apart. And so, um, I saw something yesterday, uh, where someone had said, you know, make a choice: do you want to spend your life in a gym or in a hospital? You know?

Oh, I like that line.

Yeah, yeah, that's Joe DeCena who runs the Spartan death races, these crazy races.

That's amazing. So yeah. Well, and I want to stop you because I think a lot of people listening don't know what a naturopathic doctor is. Can you tell them?

Yeah. And I mean, that was over 20 years ago when I went, and that was often disappointingly referred to as like fringe medicine, right? When in fact, you know, when in fact, like, for thousands of years we have taken care of ourselves and treated ourselves with what nature has provided, right? Pharmaceuticals have really only started to develop over the last 50 to 100 years. They are so new into our way of being in our world. And I mean, North Americans are like the most prescribed takers of medications in the world, right? So a naturopathic doctor really is, they specialize in so many things, Chinese medicine, homeopathy, Ayurvedic medicine. They use herbs, they use vitamins, they use supplements. A good naturopath is trained in all of this. The Naturopathic College in Canada is excellent. There was one in Ontario and I think it's a 4-year program. It's very, very intense. That's awesome. Yeah, so they learn everything because our medical practitioners, which thank God for them, because, you know, there's so many things that have happened that, thank God, we've got medical practitioners to go to, but they are not trained in nutrition. I think they get like 4 hours of training in their whole schooling career.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, so nutrition is not as understood. But I also say nutrition is not complicated either, right? So if we're eating whole foods, back to what sort of the earth gave us, Uh, people don't understand how remarkable that is and how important that is for our bodies. Um, it's, it's, we, we, all the foods and all the things that are in our foods now hook us in a way that it's really hard to get out of that. We're, we're conditioned all through our life on these, on these foods, and it, it's very difficult. And I know like kids are under pressure. My, my daughter says like, I hate going to school. Everyone makes fun of my food.

Oh no. You know what? I would look next to me at the kids with the Doritos and the Twinkies. And I would go home and be like, Mom, you don't give me any junk.

I got a wagon wheel, which my mom didn't care about nutrition at all. But I got a wagon wheel, which I thought was terrible. Like, could I please get a Twinkie at least?

You know, like, give me something. My parents own a health food store.

Oh, amazing.

And they always say to people, their first question is, tell me about your diet when they start complaining about how they feel. I mean, we don't realize how important it is. I know it's very true.

Yeah.

Well, and you're a mom, and I think that moms tend to be really good at taking care of their kids. I don't think we're always as good at prioritizing what we need. So my question for you is, how do you manage the whole, I'm going to take care of myself too? Because moms need to hear that.

Well, you know what, moms? I don't.

Don't say that.

I am a truth teller.

Oh, no.

Yeah, well, you know what, here's the funny thing. So, and I always say this to my husband, if I hadn't met you and we hadn't had the kids, I'd be way healthier, way richer, way everything.

Oh, for sure, for sure. But you wouldn't have all the love.

No. Oh my gosh, they are the best and the most important thing. They are my first business. Like, my family is my first and my most and most, you know, impactful business I will ever have in my entire life. I agree. But how, how did I manage it all? Well, it's funny because I think every mom can totally relate to this. Like, before you get married and have kids, like, you lead your life and, you know, however you want it to be, and off it goes. And then the baby arrives and you think, like, your whole life has been turned upside down. And, you know, and there's not one break. Like, you know, it's not like Saturday comes and you get a morning off. Like, it— no, it never ends, right?

Right, exactly, exactly.

Yes. I mean, before, my regimen was always like yoga, like I made all my food, you know, I had a supplement regimen, like I had all of that where I wanted it to be. But for sure, like your family arrives and suddenly your schedule is packed full, right? And it's changed so much from what it once was. And how do you make that all happen? And I mean, it was a real juggle, especially the first couple years when they were little and my husband was a shift worker, like, I mean, I really did go on the back burner for sure, because you're trying to have some human beings survive and thrive in a very positive way, right?

Right.

But I will say the one thing that never changed over the whole time that I've been raising my children, who are now getting to 14 and 16, one thing that never changed was always trying to make sure I was looking after myself. I wasn't getting it right all the time, but I consistently sat down with a new schedule every week about how I was going to fit things in for me, and they didn't look like they did before. But certainly if it was instead of, you know, 3 yoga classes, maybe I got 2 in. I mean, I never went without completely. Like, I never let myself, you know, as they say, fall apart. Like, I mean, you do have to hang on, and you have— this is what I talk about when you have to fight for your health. You have to fight for yourself. You just don't throw in the towel because it's really gotten hard. Like, I do say embrace the hard, embrace this new normal in your life of your kids and your husband and your family and your work and your business and everything. It is hard. And there's many times I said, I'm doing a million things and none of them I'm doing right. But you just keep putting the foot forward and just try to find that way. And, you know, feed yourself, feed your fam— family healthy. Like, if you're, if you're gonna feed— I always remember when the kids were little and, you know, you go to the restaurant and you would order maybe like salmon and vegetables and baked potato. And then the kids, it's always like chicken fingers and fries. And I think, well, why would you just, like, you wouldn't eat that yourself, right? Or at home all the time. So feeding yourself healthy as much as you can, making it come to that, like 5 out of the 7 days, like, you know, just making those commitments. Don't throw the towel in, keep fighting is, I would say my motto is like, don't give up.

Well, and I want you to talk more about that because you talk about being your own advocate. And I think that women don't realize that— I am trying to think of a good way to put this. So you go to a professional and a lot of women will tell me they just think they're supposed to listen to what the professional is telling them and it doesn't necessarily fit for them. And they don't necessarily know how to advocate for themselves. So can you talk about how you learned to advocate for yourself?

I think the biggest thing is, is like, and we hear this from so many people, is you have to listen to your, your own head, your own heart, your own gut, right? And if the information you're getting from somebody who's a credible professional, they just, they still don't know you. You know yourself, and you really, really need to listen to that. I honestly believe the biggest way to advocate yourself is to educate yourself. So like that, yeah, you, you have to go out and get that information. You have to— I mean, when I started learning about natural health, I picked up, um, this was before the internet was sort of your source of information, but a lot of health food stores, and maybe your parents had this, there was always those really super thick books on natural health and, and, uh, herbs and vitamins. I mean I had, I bought those books, right? Every time I had, you know, a cold coming on or, or whatever sort of the Emma was, a funny, a funny infection or something that you just didn't understand what it was, I would open those pages, I would research. So don't leave all the answers to everybody else, right? You have to depend on yourself and you have to do the work and you know, nobody's going to care about you as much as you. So, you know, I would just say, make sure you don't take your first answer as your only answer and do the work, do the work, open the book, do the research, talk to more people, go see a naturopathic doctor, go see a homeopath, go see Chinese medicine practitioner, go and talk to other people that you think might have tried something because everybody's situation's gonna be different. Everyone's gonna have an answer for you, but collect the information. And it's work. Again, it's work. There's time involved.

And I think that women get very confused because I think they get conflicting information. Mm-hmm. So, so, you know, any, any advice around that? Because I have heard that multiple times.

I think you have to like listen to your body, like what feels good. Like even if it's a certain, you know, right now, I'd say every couple of years there's not a fad, but a new way of thinking about dieting. If it's intermittent fasting or it's the Lion Diet or it's— there's so many different things. And I think that you have to listen to your body. Like, when I eat this, how do I feel?

Yeah.

Like, some people really do not— they don't do well with vegetables. They just don't. Some people have reactions to them. Right. And then they feel terrible guilt that they're not eating salads and they don't want salads. It's like, no, like, I really believe, listen, like, if you feel like 4 eggs for lunch, then have 4 eggs for lunch.

I know, I know. And ironically, my friend just told me that it runs right through her and she's like, no vegetables for me.

Yeah. So I really think, again, like, listening to yourself, right? And especially as moms. You're listening to everybody else. You're looking after everybody else. You're taking care of your parents. You're raising your little human beings. You're checking in with your husband, your partner. It's like that is about putting yourself first for a second and deciding what you're hearing about yourself and what feels good, what feels right. And if you know that you're not eating right, That's the work. That's the honest conversation you have to have with yourself. Like, there's no one else to blame, right? And you have to believe, like, everyone has the power to live the life they want. They have to actually, like, love themselves enough, and because they should. They truly will only ever own themselves. So love the thing that you own, which is yourself, the most, and treat it with that love that it deserves, right? So take the hard choices. Eat those foods that everyone's telling you are healthier to eat than maybe the road you're on. Right.

Okay. So to the mom listening right now who is like, I honestly don't know where to start, what can she do to start a little bit to incorporate more natural stuff into her life?

So I think the best way to start, because a lot of moms, women overwhelmed, Why? It's the 3 fundamentals that they actually teach, uh, people who are coming out of addiction, which is rest, movement, nutrition. So if they just start with those simple things, like, don't get a complicated meal plan, don't go to the grocery store on Sunday and plan out your whole week and get all this, like, too much. Focus on those 3 things. Rest, get to bed, put the phone in the kitchen.

Yes.

You know, and force yourself to do it, do it. Get the rest you need. Movement, so it doesn't mean go and hit the gym and kill yourself. It means maybe you love being outside for a walk. So get that walk in the book, book it with your neighbor or your friend, just get the movement going. And nutrition is, again, not a complicated meal plan. Just go, okay, I know that, you know, some fruit makes me feel good. I know that eggs are a great source of protein. Or I love chicken and today I'm just gonna, you know, I'm gonna kind of go this week with like no whites in my food. Like no whites on my plates. And that's your rice, your pasta, your breads, right? So I'm gonna go no whites. And I think it's just that simple. And just take these simple steps to make yourself feel a little bit better. Don't wait for motivation 'cause motivation doesn't come to you. You need to take the steps and then the motivation comes from your steps.

That's great.

That's simple.

Yes, great way to describe it. It's like people wait for this like intense motivation. It's like, no, just go do something now, one thing right now.

Totally. I heard someone say the other day, like, even with the gym, like, don't book that hour to, you know, an hour and a half off where you got to go to the gym. Say, you know what, right, going in for a 20-minute thing, I'm gonna hop on the bike for 20 minutes, and make it easy in your mind And you'll be surprised that you might say, okay, I've done 20 minutes on the bike. I think I might go lift some weights. I might work my arms today, you know? And I think just little steps like that, I just— creating the big plan and the pressure is enough to make your brain tired, you know? And your brain's already tired enough from everything else that moms are doing.

Well, and they say that you'll continue more if you start small.

Yes.

So I love what you're saying. Um, can you talk about some of the stuff that you do on a daily basis that is natural to inspire us?

I told you, do a day in the life with me. It ain't pretty.

I'm sure you're doing— we're so critical, and I am so positive you're doing a million things right.

Uh, I would say like now at this like later stage in my life and career, it's not as intense as it was when I was younger. So I mean, when I was younger, I was quite regimented. I mean, I was up super early, I was either working or like getting some work done, then to the gym. But I mean, I did, I got it all in. And I think when you're younger, that's okay. I mean, you have the energy, you have the drive, you've got goals, you've got a lot of things to manage, you've got your children, everything that you're juggling. So for me, when I was younger, I did, you know, get it all in there. Now again, for a daily basis, again, it's the schedule. I just schedule things in and I also try to be non-negotiable on timing. Right? Yeah. So, yeah. So if I know like today, for example, uh, you know, I'm meeting with you and I'm in, I'm in the office and I'm doing a few things and that this is the time to do it, right? But I would've scheduled this morning for my personal things like a yoga class and also eating what I know is gonna make me feel good. And, and so I'd say like my daily habits, especially I'd say on Sundays, like this Sunday just passed, I keep talking about eggs. Obviously, I'm an egg fan. So—

I love eggs. I'm with you.

I love eggs. So I mean, I boiled 8 eggs on Sunday, and they were in the fridge. I picked up a huge, like, ready-made chopped up lettuce salad ready to go. OK, so I still do like salad, but I know some people don't. I picked up a huge thing of green beans. I boiled them all on Sunday, you know, or steamed them, however you want. And I get actually everything into bulk in the fridge. And then throughout the week I can just grab the bits and put them together, you know. Um, I made a spinach salad and then the eggs went great with that. Um, yeah, so I, I try to do that on a Sunday.

Uh, but very smart.

So like it to take over the Sunday where it's like just cooking and you have no family time. Like Sundays are for family and relaxing and here my husband loses mind over football and, you know.

Oh yes. Yep.

The Buffalo Bills. I don't know if you— that was a devastating loss in our house.

Oh my God, my husband was so loud that I had a headache, and I'm holding my head and I'm like, oh my God, can you stop?

Yeah. And does he go dead, like, quiet when, like, things are— because my husband's, like, dead quiet when things are not good, and I'm like, oh God, it's not good, it's quiet down there.

The entire game he was so loud, and I was just next to him going, why are you sitting next to him if you have a headache?

Well, my husband— and now my poor son who's almost 6 Justin is now just becoming like him. Like, so they're both just, you know, he's becoming just like his dad. And I'm like, oh no, another generation of heartbreak.

Oh my gosh.

But you got, you got to be a part of it all. You can't just be a fan in the years that it's good. You gotta— a fan is a fan, right?

Exactly. I agree with you. So let's talk about how accountability and open, honest conversations help with health challenges, whether it's with your loved ones, with professionals. Can you talk more about that?

Yeah, I mean, that's in a lot of areas. I mean, and it's difficult because, like, I remember my kids were little, um, my son was getting recurrent ear infections, and I was talking to my naturopath about it. We were talking about diet and so on. And, you know, it was difficult because family would shower my kids with junk, right? They come over and they bring chocolate bars and it's just—

For sure.

Yeah. And it's the grandparents and you don't want to tell them not to do that because this is the joy for them. But also, and people think you're crazy when you say my kids can't have this much candy, but I feel like this day and age, there would be such a difference to a grandparent showing up on a Sunday with a chocolate bar once a week to the amount of candy consumption that children have now. Like, everything, you know, when we were kids, you picked up a chocolate bar, it was a certain size. Now it's doubled up, right?

It's true.

Yeah. And they go to school. I mean, Valentine's Day is coming up. And I remember when the kids were little, or when I was little, Valentine's Day was an exchange of a card, right? The little cards.

Yes.

When my kids came home, it was like Halloween. They'd been getting so much candy for Valentine's Day from their friends and so on. And it is simply out of control. It is simply out of control. The candies, the sugars, the dyes. Like, we are, you know, I hate to be that extreme, but there, you know, it's like poisoning our kids. Like, it's horrible. I mean, I am not that parent, like, you can't ever have them. But it's so much now that I know a treat is not a treat anymore, right? So the accountability and the, the conversations with family, um, are difficult. I, I, I really don't have them actually because, um, it, it hurts people because they're trying to be kind, right? They're trying to love your children. So it's more that, thank you very much, and then usually the kids are allowed a little bit and then the rest is it's, you know, either thrown away or, um, yeah, it just goes away. Um, but it's just too much. Like, and I think that's something that moms need to realize, and that as they're at that stage with their little ones, um, it's, it's just too much. The kids are having far too much, uh, candy these days. So yeah, so that would be, I think, a big one. A big one.

That's a really good example. I mean, I think that a lot of moms are trying to be more natural with their families in, you know, holistic ways, nutrition ways. And I don't think that other family members always support that.

No, they think it's weird.

Right. So I mean, any advice to them of how to handle, you know, setting the boundaries and kind of getting cooperation?

Well, I mean, you could make other suggestions, like if they really want to bring a treat over, if your kid loves stationery or like a new pencil case or something like that. Like, those are things that kids love, right?

That's a good idea. No, that's a really good idea.

Yeah, so you could say like, we love it, so sweet, could we save it just for Easter when they get their candy? You know, they're gonna get tons— yeah, they're gonna get tons of Halloween. Like, uh, you know, if you want to treat them, let's take them to a movie or, you know, something like that, right? So those are sometimes good suggestions for people. And then in your own home, like there are tons of recipes out there, not to add to moms who are already busy enough.

No, you're right.

Yeah, if they're doing any baking, like something I used to bake that all the kids loved was banana bread without, you know, but banana bread without added sugar, without the flour, we used almond flour, we used maple syrup. There's great recipes out there. You can put more, different recipes with eggs in it, so it's, you know, a bit more protein in there. Um, there, there's so much, um, so much availability in this type of thing out there. So a good recipe, something that you make again every Sunday and the kids love it. I mean, my kids never— they're always like, oh, you made banana bread! But they didn't realize it was like the healthy banana bread. And pie, like pancakes too, with almond flour.

Yeah, my mother was She still is the queen of sneaking vegetables into batters.

Zucchini. Yes.

I made some protein muffins and I said to my daughter this morning, I'm like, why don't you have a muffin for breakfast? And she's like, I suppose, but they taste healthy.

She knew.

Healthy, mom.

Well, I just say to my kids, like, you know, I'm just trying to make sure you can think the best with the brain you've been given.

Yes. Make good choices.

Yeah.

So how do you think your health transformation inspired you to launch Benison? Tell everybody about Benison and where it came from.

Yeah. Well, I mean, I got involved after having such a positive experience in natural health. I decided, you know what, this is something I want to work in because I believe in it so much. And so I got into as an independent sales rep. Just like there's sales representatives for pharmaceuticals, I became a sales representative for natural health products. And I just—

awesome.

Yeah. And so I just got exposed to the world of natural health, and I, you know, um, I started to work with products and people, researchers, I mean, naturopathic doctors, retailers, like everything in the industry to, uh, to to learn about the wonderful world of natural health. And I worked with many, many things, but I did— one thing that really struck me, I guess, and you get hit with lots of information once you're in this industry, but one was that, especially with COVID too, and infection and infection prevention and also infection treatment, was that the use, the overuse of antibiotics through the '80s and '90s had actually started to create a situation where people were not responding anymore to antibiotics.

Wow.

And yeah, and I started to learn about how, you know, someone could go into hospital for, say, a C-section or, you know, a knee operation, or any sort of operation where they're, you know, their skin is exposed and they pick up these terrible infections. And these are severe. Like there's one infection called MRSA, which is methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus. So staph infections, strep infections, like you've heard of sort of all these things, right? And so we have started working with a company, again, through my exposure to this whole business, that was able to capture a really important part of garlic. So I don't know if you, eat garlic or you like garlic.

Yes.

Yeah, but, and people always worry if they take this, are they gonna smell like garlic? No, they won't. 'Cause it's in very fine granular form. Yeah, but what we've been able to do is capture this part in garlic called allicin, not like the girl's name, it's A-L-L-I-C-I-N, allicin. And this is a component in garlic that is very powerful. It's an antifungal, antiviral, antibacterial. Like Louis Pasteur documented its ability to kill bacteria.

Wow.

Yeah, like, so it kills like in the, you know, in the lab it's been tested to kill like strep, staph, E. coli, salmonella, like Helicobacter pylori, which is one of the causes of stomach ulcers. So it can, it has this ability to really be powerful. And so there's also some published data that shows it's remarkable at preventing the common cold. So that really spoke to me too, because there's so many lost days of productivity. And when you're a mom, like, you cannot afford to get sick. And also your kids go off to school and they get sick and they bring it home. And then every year it's like, oh my God, everyone is sick all over again, right? So this product is allicin-based and it has also aged garlic, which has a cardiovascular benefit as well. And then something called polyphenols and SAC, which are antioxidants. And antioxidants are great at fighting free radical damage in the body. So anyways, long story short, Benison is basically a 1 capsule a day in prevention of infection, right? So thinking about—

Very easy.

Yeah, if you're going on a holiday or you're a teacher or you're shaking hands or you're just around people all the time, The data actually shows you can prevent the common cold using this product. So, yeah, so we just take one a day, again, to feel healthy and well, fight common cold. But we have had actually incredible anecdotal evidence of this product being able to clear up like severe infections. So, you know, we had a girl here who had scoliosis, curvature of the spine, and the points of entry for the, rods in her back had become infected and they weren't able to clear up this infection. Like it was just, nothing was getting it cleaned up. And her dad actually reached out to us and we sent him some and he was able to clean up all the wounds. It all cleaned up, healed over. And I guess she liked rock climbing. So they were out rock climbing again. And yeah, so it's, you know, it's a plant that is good for, just keeping your system healthy and well, your immune system. It's nature's defense mechanism, right? It's just nature's— I mean, garlic used to be planted in amongst crops as a way, as a natural pesticide, in between carrots and rutabagas and all this sort of stuff. Because when you actually break through the skin of garlic, that's where the reaction takes place and allicin is made. And that's the smelly bit that comes out. So it's a, it's a natural pesticide that's fighting off foreign invaders. And what we've been able to do is capture that, a lot of it, so it's very powerful. It's not just like one clove, it's like, it's an enormous amount, and capture that and put it into a capsule for everyday use.

Amazing. Yeah, you're making me want to eat more garlic, I'll tell you that.

Yes, and that is amazing too, but I think for like the medicinal benefits, some people will say like, why can't I just eat a whole bunch of garlic? Um, it's for medicinal benefits, you need to eat a lot. And garlic is like, it can burn, right? And it's smelly. And I've had tons of people tell me about, you know, their grandmothers used to take warm milk and swig it down, a crushed clove of garlic. And I think, oh, what a horrible way to get the benefits of garlic, right?

Yeah, no, your medicine sounds much easier to me. Much easier. I don't wanna go eat a bunch of garlic. Yes, yes. I do love to cook with garlic, But it's not—

don't lie, never give that up.

So tell us, how do we, how do we buy Benison?

Right, so Benison is available on Amazon, excuse me, amazon.com. And so yeah, and also our Shopify site. And we did talk about doing, um, an offer, and I need to get that information to you. So if any of your listeners— yeah, we can do like 20% off or something and give a code, and we'll try and get that into the show notes.

Yeah, that's awesome, that's a great idea. Before I let you go, what do you think some of the myths are about natural health?

Well, I mean, I kind of touched on that a little bit at the beginning. Like, people thought it was a fringe, fringe industry full of a bunch of crazies. And, you know, yeah, and, and there are some interesting types for sure in the industry. But like I said, people have to remember, like, we've been taking care of ourselves for centuries with what the earth has provided. And we've only gotten away from that in the last 50 to 80 years, right? So I think that's one of the misconceptions is that, you know, oh, it's just, you know, strange, strange things. You know, there's no, they're not proven, there's nothing to work. But it's funny because, you know, doctors will tell you, oh, take vitamin D in the winter or use vitamin C for, you know, I mean, it cured scurvy, right? But it's like when the doctors don't know it, they don't have anything positive to say about it. But once they know it, then they're behind it. And a perfect example of that was years ago when I first got in the industry, I learned all about healthy gut flora and your microbiome and probiotics. But, you know, when you went to the doctor, you would never hear about that. And fast forward now, they will actually tell you after a round of antibiotics to take probiotics because it wipes out your healthy gut flora. Healthy bacteria. So, you know, I think that if the medical establishment doesn't know or understand it, then it's, it's like weird, you know, fringe, fringe alternative, um, uh, medicine. But once they know about it, then suddenly like it's okay, right? So I mean, my early days, yeah, in my early days I got involved with, um, an omega-3 fish oil and, you know, back then no one really knew it and it was you know, what were we selling, snake oil? But then we were finding out that these omega-3s, the essential fatty acids, were amazing for your brain and critical for your kids, right? And I think the first study that came out was one of the Arctic Inuits who had the incredibly, you know, no heart disease, but this incredible diet high in fat, and they couldn't figure it out. And it's because of these essential fatty acids. So, you know, these are the things that we face, but there's lots of history behind it to show that these things are good for us. So, yeah, so that's why I say people need to open their minds and go read. And I think where we are now from where, when I started, is enormously different. People are really starting to pay attention that their health is their wealth. Like they need to start understanding that everything we're eating and the lives we're leading, you know, we don't feel good and we should feel great, you know. And as life's problems come our way, we should be strong and ready to handle them, right? So, you know, God forbid something happens to somebody, they end up in hospital. I want to end up in hospital a really fit, healthy human being to fight whatever I'm ending up in hospital for, right? Rather than—

yeah, yes. I mean, you said so many things that I will take with me. And one of those things was, do you want to spend your time in the gym or the hospital?

I mean, you said— I can't take credit for that because I heard that.

Well, I mean, you said so many good things. I just, you know, I've taken so many mental notes. I've learned so much. I just can't even thank you enough for all of your wealth of knowledge.

Well, I'm just happy to be here. Thank you for having me. And yeah, like, I can't wait for you to get your bottle of Benison. We're going to send you some Benison.

Oh, yeah. Yay! I was just gonna tell everyone to go get some. Tell everyone where to find you.

Right, and so Benison is spelled B-E-N-E, like bene in Italian, good, good health. So bene, so B-E-N-E-C-I-N, benison.com. Like I said, it's on amazon.com and benison.com will take you to the Shopify page. And yeah, and anything you need, send us an email. I believe there's outreach there and we can answer all your questions.

Well, thank you for being proactive in your health so that you could bring us medicine and everything else you're doing.

Oh, thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me. It was a real pleasure to meet you, Rebecca.

My pleasure. I loved having you. This is Rebecca Greene, and I want to remind everyone to spend every day laughing, learning, and loving.

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