Are You Struggling with Chronic Pain? The AO Body Scan May Have Answers

I am absolutely fascinated by this AO frequency scanner that you use that we'll be talking about today. Especially, I can see it especially helpful for people with chronic illness and invisible illness who are trying to advocate for themselves, you know, their health, and nobody's listening because all their scan results, all their tests come back normal. Let's start with what is this AO Scan therapy?

Okay, AO Scanner is a frequency therapy, and frequency therapies work like things— let me compare it to things that everybody's familiar with: a CT scanner, an MRI scanner, having an EEG done. I'm really having trouble talking. Having an EKG done. So the EEG measures brain waves, the EKG measures your heart and how's your heart doing. The AO Scanner works the same way. The technology, you It used to be so that you had to go to an office and sit down in front of a big machine and get hooked up to some nodes just like you would an EKG or so forth. And, you know, because technology's advanced so much, they don't have to do that now. Just like they can run an EKG on you over the phone, and they do do that, we can now run scans through the AO scanner, which is a frequency device, over the phone. By simply having your basic information, such as your name, your date of birth, your height, and your weight. You know, just like we dial somebody up on a cell phone, you know, there's no wires, we're not connected, but yet I still get you when I call, you know, because I have that specific number that I'm calling. Now we have that specific information we put in the AO scanner, and it dials you up, and it's able to do a scan on you and see how your body's doing. So that's the basis of how it works. Yes.

How does the AO scanner offer answers when all the labs show that there's nothing wrong?

Because it's able to tune in very specifically to your cells, your tissues, and able to identify frequency of how those tissues are functioning. So it Spits out a number. It ranks things on a scale of one to nine. One, two, and three is usually a more acute issue. It's something that's low functioning, not functioning well. Four, five, and six are considered the normal range—a healthy tissue. Whatever we're talking about, maybe it's your adrenal glands or your stomach. You know, it might come back with four, five, or six. That means they're good. Seven, eight, and nine means it's more of a chronic issue, and there's probably some inflammation there. So it gives a ranking of how that tissue is doing. And because of that ranking, it is able then to compare it from one scan to the next. So it will compare this scan that I run today with the last scan that I ran. So you have a comparison. Is, is that area doing better or not? You're able to measure that. You're— it's able to identify whether you're short in certain nutrients. Maybe you need some specific nutrients. Different scans can identify that. It can tell me whether or not a certain organ or a gland is low functioning. And then when I find out that it's low functioning, I do energy work related to that. And sometimes I recommend supplements saying this particular gland or organ needs a boost, and these are the things that will boost that. So you need to be taking, you know, A, B, C, or D. Maybe it's vitamin C you need. Vitamin C helps the adrenal glands. So, you know, if the adrenal glands are low in functioning, it's like, let's give it some vitamin C and I'll test you and see what, how much vitamin C do you need? You know, a day. What, what is the best dosage for you to bring that gland up? And then the next time we run the scan, you'll find that it's functioning much better.

It sounds like it gets very specific.

Depending on what I ask it to do, I can run some more general scans and I can run some more detailed scans. And when I'm having, depending on who I'm working with and what I'm doing, I can get very detailed. And that gives me just all kinds of information. As far as having AI do it, it's like, I— this— these are the issues with this particular client. I want you to focus on this because, you know, there's— when I run a scan, I can come up with hours worth of information to work on. It's like, I don't want hours. I need to narrow this down. We can only deal with so many things at a time. So let's narrow this down and let's find out what the priorities are. What are the things that are showing up as the biggest issues? And then those are the issues that I address when I do the energy work or when I make recommendations as far as supplements.

And the AI is particular to you, isn't it? This is something you've thought of doing. It's not necessarily that any AO scanner practitioner would do.

Yeah, most practitioners don't do that. I started that a few months ago on my own. I was using AI a lot and trying to figure out how I could start integrating it into stuff that I was doing. And I thought, you know what, this— if I could do this, this could be very helpful. And what I did was I started running multiple scans on clients. And then I take those scans and I take the complaints or the issues that the client in particular was having, and I plug that into AI. And I would say, these are the issues, here's the results, put this together for me and tell me what the priorities are, correlate these and tell me what the priorities are for this particular client. And the results were amazing. And clients are like, oh my gosh, I'm really blown away with that. they're really blown away by those results because they're like, oh yeah, that's me. I get that. That is definitely me.

Absolutely. I mean, you did a complimentary scan for me, and when I looked at it, it was actually amazing because some of the things that were on there did come up in other sort of frequency thing, uh, tests that I've done. So you can see that it is true. You know, and some of the things have come up on blood tests. Yeah.

That's the one thing with the EO scanner. It has a section of blood work that you can run. And I'm, I have people come back and tell me, yeah, my blood work at the doctor's office showed exactly that.

Exactly that. So then you're looking and you go, it is, it is kind of fascinating to get your head around. For anyone who's a bit skeptical, what exactly is the frequency tapping into? Is it tapping? Is it your brain frequency that knows everything about your body? Or it doesn't tap into the frequency of your nervous system or individual organs.

It's cellular frequency. So it's determining what— yeah, it's determining what the frequency is of each of those organs and each of those tissues. So it will tell me— it can give me more, a more generic look at your liver, your digestive system, or it can give me a really detailed look at the cells within the body. So as far as the blood tests or hormone levels, you know, I have a scan that I can run specifically for hormones. So it gives me what those hormones are. And every client that I've run, oh yeah, that's exactly what I'm dealing with. It's the result is the response I get. And I was like, yeah, it's right on target.

Specific organs and digestive for me is like, I was blown away. It was spot on. So do our emotions or our trauma show up on our scans? And how does it show up?

Yes, they do. Emotions affect every part of our being. I am absolutely convinced 90% of what we deal with is emotional. Yes, that we hold on to those emotions and they affect every cell in our body. And it could be something from childhood, it could be something from yesterday, you know, and we hold on to it. We don't let go of it because we weren't taught to. And that's something you have to learn to do to keep that from becoming a problem in the future. And that is at the end of the day, let go of those emotions. I tell people to create a throwaway journal at the end of the day, make it a gripe journal, you know, write out what your complaints are for the day, the things that have bugged you today. Because when you take it to bed at night, it goes into long-term memory. If you sleep on that emotion, it becomes long-term memory and now it's stuck in you.

Mm-hmm.

Unless you make an active effort to get rid of that emotion, it is now stuck. So it's very important we let go of that. But that is one of the other things the AO scanner does. It has something called inner voice. And people leave me a voice message, just a recording, and I run that through the AO scanner, and then it comes up with frequencies that are the most out of tune— your— the emotions that are the most out of tune in you, the 4 primaries. And it will send back then to the clients when it's done. It gives me a set of tunes that I can send back to them that will help bring those emotions back into alignment. And then they listen to those tunes. We didn't do that on you, but they listen to those tunes then over the next, you know, 5 to 6 days. And that helps bring those emotions back into alignment. And they can do that, you know, you can listen to them 2, 3 times a day and everybody finds them very helpful.

And that would be super specific to the person.

Yes. It's very specific.

They're not generic at all.

It's not generic. And it, it will actually make a correlation with the physical things that are going on in your body associated with those emotions. So it'll tell you physical things associated with those emotions that are happening.

Frequency work, you know, is very much, um, still in the new— what they consider new.

And the terminology is new. Frequency work isn't new because we've been doing CT scans and MRIs and EKGs and EEGs on the brain. We've been doing those for years. It's the terminology that's new and the fact that you don't have to be in the room with the machine. So MRIs and CTs, nothing's really touching you. It's just It's scanning you from a distance, you know, over you and around you, but it's not touching you. The EEGs and the EKGs, they put little probes on you and, you know, they evaluate you that way. But those who have had heart problems over the last few years realize that they can run an EKG on you from a distance, you know, and they can monitor your heart rhythm from a distance. You know, they do that with somebody who has a pacemaker, you know. You're not attached to, you know, the hospital or whoever is now evaluating what's going on with your heart, but yet they can know exactly what your rhythm is at the moment, you know, and how your heart rhythm is. You're not attached by any wire. That's completely wireless. This is the same thing. You know, we're doing that at a distance. It has— there's this whatever that, you know, electronic connection we have through the air, you know, that we make cell phone calls with. It's the same idea. It works the same way.

When you say you do the energy work around it, what specifically is— what sort of energy work do you do in combination with this scanner?

Okay, so I take the results from the scanner, I take whatever the top priorities are that come up for that particular client, and then I do— I'm an energy medicine practitioner and have been for 30 years, and then I do my energy work related to that. So just like the AO scanner is connecting You know, over distance with you, I do that, but I do it through prayer. I believe God is the one that's connecting me with you. So I say a prayer and ask him to do that and allow me to stand in for you and ask your subconscious mind questions about how parts of your body are functioning. So whatever those priorities that came up on the scan, I take those priorities and I start treating those, and I treat those imbalances. And by simply asking your body what's causing this imbalance, identifying the causes of those imbalances, Your body will then release them, and most of the time it's emotions, some form, way, whatever of emotion. You know that we have held on to something that you've remembered, something somebody said to you, a thought that you've had a negative about yourself. We hold on to those things, and those things make us sick. And when I can bring those to the surface, I always like to explain to people for the energy work. My daughter used to watch this Donald Duck math video, and he'd go into a room full of filing cabinets looking for the answer to a math problem. He'd open one door and go through the files. No, that's not it. Sham it closed. And he'd open another one. No, that's not it. And he'd close that and go to the next one. Finally find, oh, here it is. Well, that's what I'm helping your subconscious do. It's wading through everything that it remembers, and it remembers absolutely everything that's ever happened in your life.

Mm-hmm.

So it's wading through all of that, and I have to help it to do that because it's buried it. Whatever it is, it's buried it. And it's like, oh, that's it. It's once it's pulled that up and said, that's it. And I was like, okay, you don't need that anymore. Let go.

And it will. For, you know, I'm, I'm just thinking, my mind is just going over for people who, you know, really struggle with invisible illnesses that you can't see them. They struggle to explain them. It's not on the results. You know, it is so frustrating because they're in pain. They do have it. They know they have it.

And the doctor says it's in your head because they can't find anything on the test results. That's right. That's what they tell you. They say it's in your head. I, I was there, so I get it. So it's able to tap into all those imbalances in the body. And sometimes those imbalances, you know, maybe it's your digestive system's off. The amount that it's off is subtle. So those test results aren't showing it yet. So the things that the doctors are testing for, the things that they're looking for aren't showing yet. That's the one thing about energy medicine and frequency medicine. And that's what the AO scanner— it's a frequency device. That's the one thing about that is it identifies things prior to them becoming a problem. I mean, people come to me because they already have a problem. But I often find things along the way that they knew nothing about. It was like, oh, I didn't know that was a problem. But when I correct them, they feel better. That's the underlying hitch in all of that is there are things going on there that led up to the thing that you're complaining about, you know. So, for example, I'll have somebody that'll be complaining of right knee pain and, you know, they think they're going to have to go in for knee replacement. And I find out actually it's their gallbladder that's off. Because the gallbladder meridian runs through the right knee. And usually anybody that's having right knee pain has a gallbladder issue. So if we can correct the gallbladder, then the knee gets better. And if it's the left knee, it's usually the liver because you actually have dual meridians that run through there. So it's not really called the gallbladder meridian, it's the liver meridian, but they're the same one. It runs through the liver and the gallbladder. So when you're having left knee pain, it's usually your liver. When you're having right knee pain, it's usually your gallbladder.

Is that in one session or how many sessions are we looking at?

Oh, that depends on the person. It really does. Depends. And, and if I'm focusing on just like one thing like that, if it's just your knee and it happens to be your gallbladder, usually that's one session. I can usually, and if it's not 100% gone, it'll probably be 75 to 90% gone in one session. You know, it'll just take a little bit to clean it up after that. Or maybe it's a matter of me doing that and making suggestions to you as how you change your diet a little bit. Some things, maybe a supplement that you can take to help, you know, further cleanse your gallbladder. And, you know, then it's gone. You know, it depends on the individual. Everybody is different. I haven't found 2 people alike, which we're not. And that's the problem with modern medicine is we are not alike. We are not cookie cutters. And they wanna pass out drugs for every pain and so forth. And it's like, no, there's something causing that pain or discomfort.

Mm-hmm.

And everybody is different and everybody's gonna react differently to the treatment. So, you know, we have to realize we are individuals and we were created that way and we need to be treated that way and we need to be addressed that way. And, you know, when we're addressing our problems, our problems aren't going to be the same as, you know, your husband, your daughters, your kids' problems. But there might be something that's running through your family genetically that is the same, causing similar problems. But, you know, there's always a twist. There's always something a little different. You know, we're not all the same. Absolutely.

Do you notice any recurring patterns for certain conditions?

Sure. Digestive problems, people that are having trouble sleeping, if they can't get to sleep, it's usually digestion. Usually your digestive system's off for a couple of reasons. Digestion in itself takes a lot of energy, and if you're reacting to foods, it can be very stimulating to your nervous system. It— you can have delayed reactions to foods, and often you'll notice it then at bedtime when you're going to bed, so it keeps you awake. The other thing We're back to that gallbladder issue. The gallbladder's peak time to work— if there's a meridian clock, I don't know how many of your listeners know about the meridians, but the meridians are just different organs that have peak function during the day. So during that 24-hour clock, they have a 2-hour window where that's their peak function. The gallbladder's peak function is at 10 o'clock at night. So when people are going to bed, if you're having trouble with your gallbladder, you'll often have trouble getting to sleep. That's your gallbladder. We fix your gallbladder, then you can go to sleep.

A frequent— it's not a common frequency that you see. It's something more, more like, you know, like you said, insomnia or digestive or chronic pain.

It's a pattern. It's a common pattern of symptoms, not necessarily the common cause. It's like your gallbladder problem might be a completely different problem than your neighbor's gallbladder problem, but it's your gallbladder that's causing the problem, preventing both of you from going to sleep. Right. So, you know, maybe it's a parasite that's in your gallbladder, or maybe it's just you've been eating way too many fatty foods for years, and now, you know, it's all sluggish. You're developing gallstones, and those biliary ducts are getting blocked. So now it can't process the bilirubin through the night, in through your digestive system, and then through to your bowel so it can eliminate it for the night. So if it can't do that, it's going to keep you awake at night, you know. But you know what's causing that? Is it just emotions, which could be the case? Is it your diet? Is it a parasite? You know, we have to figure out what that cause is and eliminate the cause.

And this is what the scanner will do. It will find what the cause or causes are.

It gives you the priority, priority in that it tells me what those— it applies that number to whatever it is it's scanning. So I know according to that, You know, what's, what's off, what's balanced. And it also shows me what the issues are. So the AO scanner will show you bacteria, viruses, parasites. It gives a number value to all the organs and the glands and the tissues. It shows you emotions that are contributing to your health. And then what I do is I take that and run it through AI, and I say, prioritize these for me. put these scan results, because there's multiple scans that I can put these together for me and prioritize this for me. And then I take those, those priorities and work on those priorities energetically so that I can further boost what's happening with the client. The scanner itself actually sends out frequencies to help balance what is imbalanced. So even without me, if you, you can actually purchase those and, you know, they're really not that expensive. It is a monthly fee to have it, but it's really not that expensive. And if you do that, you can run those scans on yourself, and it does send back frequencies to help balance those things that are off. So you can do that on a regular basis. You can run those 2 or 3 times a day, several times a week. You know, if you have one, you can run it on as many people as you want. You're not limited to the number of times you use it, so they can be very healing for that. And I'm very healing for the emotional stuff so that you can run that emotional scan, the inner voice, you know, several times a day. And those people that are dealing with anxiety, it can help with that. It helps balance that anxiety. It can show you the supplements that your body needs. What am I deficient in? You know, so many people are guessing as to what should I take? Should I do this? Do I need that? So, you know, you can enter the supplements that you have into it. It will scan you for them and see whether or not you need one of those supplements that you have. It'll tell you what you're short in.

Can these results change daily?

Yes. And actually, they can change moment to moment. If you think about the fact that we are not static beings, partly because we're such emotional beings, so everything is changing from moment to moment. So I can run a scan on myself now, I can run another one in 10 minutes, and the results will probably be different. They won't be grossly different, but they won't be exactly the same either, because my body is constantly changing. It's constantly processing. It's constantly making adjustments to what it's exposed to in life, to my emotions, which can change everything. So I'm sure whatever I would have run prior to us starting this today would be very different than what I'd get after we're done, you know, because the emotions about, you know, anticipating something and doing something, you know, affect my physical being.

Yes.

But, you know, you have— you do have the ability to watch it change from one scan to the next. And you can save all those scans. So if you'd print them out, you could compare them over a longer period of time. And if people have the AO scanner themselves, I recommend that you not pay too much attention to the results. Run multiple scans. So save today's on, we'll say Monday, save Monday's. And then on Friday, compare Friday to Monday's. Don't compare every day. It's— there's just too much information and it's like Just run it. You know, it'll send back frequencies that'll help balance the things that are the most out of whack. Compare, you know, Monday and Friday. Don't compare daily or even once a month, you know, depending on how you're physically doing. If you're struggling, you know, you can pay a little closer attention and see if you can bring the things that are bothering you the most back into alignment.

So when you— like you were saying, if you, you've run these scans daily, which you just corrected not to do, And you could run it daily, just don't pay attention to the results too closely. Yes, because like if it changes so frequently, how do they then from the results of this scan go, yes, that is me, that is me, that's my illness, and then it keeps changing? How do they pinpoint where to start?

You pay attention to the thing that shows up the most as the problem and ignore the rest. You know, just because it showed up today, okay, so this is off, let's, let's Let's say my liver shows up today. It's like, well, my liver shows up today because last night I had a fatty meal. Okay, so, you know, over the next few days, maybe it'll still show a problem. But as my body deals with that, as I do better in what I'm eating the next few days, that's going to change. So in a few days, that's probably not even going to be on the scan anymore as a problem. But if my heart showed up today, And it shows up on every scan I'm running, now I have to think there's a problem with my heart. Okay. Um, that I need to pay attention to that because it shows up every time I run the scan.

If you had something fatty and the next day you scanned and it shows that it's struggling, and then—

Then you might say, I'm gonna eat better today, just help it out.

Yes. And, but if you eat then well for the next 4 days, But it's still showing it's got a problem, then you know definitely—

And you know there's a problem. There's a bigger problem there than that fatty meal you ate.

Even if you see a practitioner like yourself over something like this, it's not something that you want to keep, you know, asking them about to run a scan every week, right?

You only want to do that if it's a persistent problem. So you're going to pay attention. You want to pay attention to the things that repeatedly show up and stay on the scan results as an issue. If it's just something that's a blip on the screen, you know, it up today, but I haven't seen it in the next 4 scans, then don't worry about it. It was something that came and went, your body dealt with it, and we're moving on now.

So can this scan cause a detox?

Yes. But it does a very good job of not over— you're not going to over-detox, you're not going to have detox symptoms with the scanner. It's very good at making sure when it's sending back frequencies to mediate the things that are out of balance, not to send back too strong of a frequency. So if you look on your scan results, occasionally something will show up that was balanced and now it's out of balance, and that's where it sent frequencies and it was just a little too much for the one item. Well, it's not going to last. Your body will mediate it and it'll go back to normal. So when I run the scan again in a few hours, it'll be perfectly fine. But it does send frequency back and it doesn't correct everything. And that's the reason it doesn't correct everything, because if it tried to correct every single thing in one shot, you'd be very symptomatic and you wouldn't be able to get out of bed. Yeah, exactly. You wouldn't be able to get out of bed. Exactly. So it doesn't do that. It sends things, sends a frequency back to you at a very mediated level so that you can actually deal with it and that your body can handle the detox. It will show you. And one thing I find a lot on with people because we all eat these lousy diets is the liver shows up as— it shows liver detox 1 and detox 2. And we actually have 3 detox pathways through our liver. And often 1 or 2 of those are off with people because of that. We all struggle with our liver because we're not eating like we should. And, you know, if we were eating the perfect diet, then those people that are doing that, you're going to find those scan results are okay. You know, that their liver is doing fine. But I repeatedly see that coming up, and that's because we need to be doing better about our diets and how we're eating, and that we're taking care of our liver and our gallbladder, and that we're eating things that will help support them. And if, you know, you're actually having issues with that liver and gallbladder, then you need to see a practitioner who can help you with that, so they can help you start taking the right supplements to clear those, clear those toxins, see if there's any parasites there, because that's a frequent place for parasites. To hide is in your liver and your gallbladder. So, you know, you need to make sure that you're taking care of those things. And often you need to see a practitioner to help you do that. So I— and that's what I do, you know, I take my clients through that, I run the AO scanner on them, I get those results, I run that through AI to get a priority as to what we need to be treating, what the— what's the biggest issues for this client. And it's amazing the detail it gives. I have a patient that's our client that has some musculoskeletal issues and the detail that it gave me in regards to what muscles and what skeletal problems they were having is amazing. So I was able to get very specific about the things that I was treating and it really did take one session and they were better. They're like, oh my gosh, I don't know what you did, but I knew when you treated me because I felt better.

Is there a best time in someone's health journey to use these AI scanners or Is it like a preventative or whilst you are—

I think of it as both. If you're not sick yet, it's a great time to start using it. If you're a parent, I would start thinking of it as the new doctor in your home. This is a great way to run scans on family, on kids. You know, now I know what's going on with you. I don't have to guess. You know, I can see, oh, you actually are having digestive problems. It's your small intestine that's off. It will tell you actually foods that you're having problems with. So, you know, that's one thing that changes on a regular basis. I might show that I'm intolerant to dairy today, but tomorrow I'm not. Why is that? Well, maybe I've had dairy for the last 4 days and my body's a little sensitive to it and I can't handle 4 days in a row of dairy. So if I take the next few days off, my digestive system gets better. And, you know, in 4 or 5 days, maybe I can handle A little bit of ice cream if I wanted to have ice cream with the family, but I can't handle that 4 or 5 days in a row. That's too much for me. So dairy shows up on my scan as a problem, and other foods will show that way. So you know that I have people that are kind of sensitive to foods, and they say they run the AO scanner to know what foods they can eat for dinner that night. They're going out to eat, they don't want to have a problem, so they run the AO scanner ahead of time to see what they're sensitive to, and they make sure they avoid those foods. when they go out to eat. So allergies is that funny word, isn't it? It's a label, you know. Are— is it an allergy? Is it an intolerance? You know, what is this? You know, in my world, if it bothers me, it's an allergy. So, you know, if it causes pain and discomfort, it's an allergy because I'm having some type of an immune response to it. You know, is it IgEs, IgAs? Is it, um, you know, something else? You know, for me, it's often my nervous system that I notice it in. So if I'm reacting to something, oh, it's not really my stomach, it's the nervous system of my stomach that's unhappy with whatever I just ate. So, you know, knowing that in advance can be very helpful. It's like, you have to stay away from that. So that's, you know, it— what it identifies in particular is this is what you're going to have a problem with now. Because you're testing as this is a problem now. So that's something that you could avoid just by using the AO scanner. And then for future reference, you know that, okay, so I am having some digestive and immune issues and going to a practitioner who can help me with those issues can help start relieving some of that.

Well, it's information and I can imagine that would be incredible information to have on hand.

Yes.

When you go and speak to someone, so you're not trying to describe, like, like, again, the invisible, you know, illnesses, and you can't put words— you feel it, but you can't find the words for it. This is concrete data.

It is.

Showing what's happening.

Finding a practitioner that's going to listen to that, you're going to have to find an alternative practitioner that is open-minded to say, okay, I'm willing to look into that a little farther since that's showing up for you. Especially if you could take somebody that's open-minded several test results you've ran. It's like it's coming up repeatedly. I think this is a problem. And I actually have a colleague that I think it was her brother, his prostate kept showing up on her scans and she's like, you need to go get your prostate checked. And they found out he had an enlarged prostate that was on the verge of becoming cancerous and they were able to start dealing with that ahead of time before it was ever diagnosed.

And did he say Why he was having it checked?

Uh, he's— he said he had a sister that did a lot of alternative stuff, and that was just something that kept coming up. He didn't get detailed about what it was. I could imagine he went to a mainstream physician, you know, who wasn't gonna buy it. Exactly. But, you know, guys often have prostate issues, so it wasn't too hard to tell that, you know, I might have a problem, will you check it? Are there any risks for people relying I think you need to be willing to say, okay, this is something that's coming up a lot. I don't feel well. I'm going to go to somebody else who knows a little more about the body and how to deal with it, whether that is an alternative practitioner or a mainstream practitioner. I'll be honest, I haven't been to see a mainstream practitioner in years, but you know, I do energy work and I've done that for 30 years. So I treat myself and it was my MS that got me into all of that. And that went away through energy medicine. Not through mainstream medicine. I left that right after I was diagnosed and refused to go back after my neurologist told me I was going to have to learn to live with my symptoms. And they were keeping me up at night and miserable. It was all 4 extremities pain that I just couldn't tolerate. I couldn't lay down, I couldn't sleep. So, you know, when my neurologist told me I was going to have to learn to live with that, I hung up with him and told him it was was told myself it was time to find something else. And that made me— and I was, I'm a registered nurse, so that was my kick to say it's time to look for something else. And that's when I found alternative medicine, and that's what healed me.

It's not comforting to hear you just have to live with it. And too many people, too many people actually hear that.

And they do. And you know, when the symptoms started, it was, it's all in your head, this isn't real, it's in your head. And Like, no, there's something wrong with my body and I know that. But, you know, they couldn't find it at the time until the, you know, the symptoms were severe enough that, you know, they really truly had to take a look.

I find with conventional, like conventional lab tests, they're just too broad.

So they are. And a lot of those tests were done on too fine of a group of people to be able, like thyroid tests, for example, you know, the group they chose to create normal with was too small. So, you know, most people fall outside of normal, and yet you're told there's nothing wrong with you. It's like, no, there's something wrong with me. I know I'm not right. There's something wrong with me, you know. And those tests don't show that. But, you know, on the AO scanner, all of those tests show up, you know— your TSA, your T3s, your T4s, all of your thyroid stuff. And it'll— thyroid antibodies. So it will show you when you're having problems with that.

Do you think that energy medicine is the future of preventative care?

I do. And I'm really, really hoping in America now that Robert Kennedy is heading up our healthcare system, that we'll start seeing more of that. I know they're putting people in place right now that lean towards doing a lot of that. So I'm really hoping that we'll start seeing that, but that it'll come to a point that insurance companies will actually start paying for it. That, that's when we know it's normalized.

What would you like to say to anybody who is still skeptical, would like to try that, but is still skeptical that whether the results are true?

Well, compare your latest blood test result to the AO scanner. I mean, it doesn't cost that much to have scans run, you know, find a practitioner, call me, we'll run some scans on you, compare them to what's going on. You know, usually The scans that I run and the test results that come back, people are like, yeah, I'm having a problem with that. Yeah, that makes sense. That I know that's a problem for me. So without them telling me what their symptoms are, I can tell you what your problems are, and then you can say, yeah, that's right on, or it's not. It's pretty, pretty clear-cut.

It is a fascinating thing. And really what I got from this is, you know, like the AO scanner, you know, it really invites us to tune in Into those subtle signals, the ones that are often missed by conventional—

We, we tend to ignore for a long time till we're like, okay, no, this is really bugging me. But then the doctors just continue to— mainstream continues to ignore them because they don't see them in their lab results yet.

Stop waiting for our symptoms to scream at us. Yes, yes, actually listen when they're just a whisper.

When they're a whisper, if you start dealing with them, you can make them go away pretty easily.

And that's what I'm getting from, from this discussion around this, is you're catching it at the whisper stage.

That's right, that's right. And that's where you want it. I mean, it's not that we can't do something when it's later, but gosh, if you could catch it early, that would be wonderful. And we can do that with the EO scanner.

I find it fascinating, and certainly the results that I received from you were pretty darn spot on, which I've found You know, was— I was blown away, actually. So I thank you so much for coming on and sharing all this information with my listeners and viewers. And anyone who has been drawn to what Bobbi has been saying, please do contact her. All her details will be in the show notes. Book in. She can help you worldwide.

I would love to have a coffee chat with anyone. So, you know, we can just chat. We can talk about what you're personally dealing with. And where to move on from there. So, you know, let's just chat.