Andrew Tate | The Truth About Ownership, Wealth & Money
21 Nov 2025 · 27 min
Andrew Tate discusses his philosophy on wealth, discipline, and masculinity, framing life as war and describing his jail time as a resilience-building experience. He explains his motivations for collecting cars and watches, his conversion to Islam, and pushes back against accusations of misogyny.
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January 30, 2025
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I certainly got a lot of my life in order and I think the reason I miss it now is because I sleep five or six hours a night now. But back then three, two, three hours max. I got tons done, I made a bunch of money, my training was on schedule.
Were you able to have your phone in there then and do work?
No, no. This is my. It's funny because I didn't have nightmares in jail, right? In jail I slept as weird as it is. I had nightmares when I left jail, right? And thought I might go back any minute. And I still might go back any minute. But now I'm like, oh, whatever. But when I. For the first three or four months when I was out of jail, when I was having very bad nightmares at home, I was remarkably efficient. I kind of missed. Yeah, I got loads done, so I kind of missed them and I missed that whole. It was a. It was a different way to live. It was a different level to the game. And I think a lot of people would be like, oh no, I'm having nightmares. I have to make them go away. Why? Nightmares aren't real. Why would I have to make them go away? There's a genuine question. Because I'm sure a therapist or some other matrix minded idiot would tell me how important is they're gone. But I didn't understand why a nightmare can't hurt me. Okay, I woke up. Boo hoo. I woke up. Boo. Let's all cry our eyes out. I woke up. No, just go train. I think my nightmares didn't bother me that much. I'm kind of sad they're gone. The women who would sleep next to me, it pissed them off. I was like, you never sleep. I was like, yeah, I can't just be lazy sleeping 12 hours and I'd be up doing this, doing this. So I kind of miss my nightmares. Unfortunately, they're gone. But perhaps God will give me another experience which brings them back to me and then I will enjoy them once again. Are you hard on yourself?
Like, I'm not. I don't pick up much sympathy about anything from you. I don't know you really well, so maybe a judgment from where I'm sitting, but are you hard on yourself and do you sometimes lack sympathy or self love?
Am I hard on myself? Yes. Does that benefit me? I believe so. I'm hard on myself because life is hard. I think the only.
Could life be easier if you thought life was easy? Because isn't life what you see, not what it is?
What's the point in having an Easy life. Why would I want an easy life? If someone were to say to me, do you want an easy life? I'd say, that sounds poor. I mean, did Genghis Khan want an easy life? Did Alexander the Great want an easy life? Did any of the men you can remember from history, any of the ones that actually matter, ever want an easy life? If I meet a man and he says, I want an easy life, I just want stress free life, I look at him and think, you're born to lose. You're born to lose, sir. You can have your stress free life and you can serve me my latte and you can fuck off because you're not made to. Life is war and it's going to be stressful.
Life isn't always war.
Of course it is. Life is war. Every single aspect of life is war. Not losing your temper in traffic on your way to a podcast is war. Trying to get a girl that the other guy wants is war. Trying to buy a Ferrari that everybody else can't afford is war. Training is war. Fighting is war. Life is war. I see war everywhere. When I see a big beautiful oak tree, I don't see a big beautiful oak tree. I see a tree that destroyed all the saplings around it and crushed them mercilessly. It's war. Life is war. So that's how I view it. I guess the only disadvantage of being so hard on myself because I don't see any disadvantages because, because I have zero self sympathy. I blame myself for absolutely everything, even this Matrix attack. I want to make it very clear I'm not looking for sympathy on any level. I'm not an idiot. I ran my mouth on the Internet for a very long time. I pissed off very important, powerful people and they, and they put me in a jail cell. I sat there in jail like, well, I'm here for the wrong reasons, but all in all, fair enough.
The universe is giving me, I gave it.
You know, you run your mouth and you piss people off, they're gonna try and teach you a lesson. That's how the world works. Like, I'm not gonna sit there and feel sorry for myself. I guess the only disadvantage of being so hard on myself is that I'm extremely hard on others. And some people find me difficult to deal with for that reason. They'll be like, oh, I'm struggling with this. I'm like, I do not give a fuck. It has to be done at this time. Oh, yeah, but, but, but I don't care. You will lose your job if it's not done at this time. That's the bottom line. And I guess I can be ruthless, but why would I have sympathy for somebody else I don't have for myself? If I'm going to be so strict on myself, why would I. Why would I allow sympathy for others if I know I'm going to do it? I'm going to hold them to my standard. So I guess to a degree I can be. I can come across as unempathetic to others, I guess. But at least I'm not a hypocrite, you know? And I also like to believe that because I lead from the front, I'm not an armchair general. I'm suffering myself. So if I'm going to suffer and I'm going to perform and I'm going to get everything I need to do done, then I expect absolutely the same from everybody around me or they're not going to be around me anymore. So am I hard on myself? Yes. Will that change? No. Life is war. Life is hard. You're supposed to be hard on yourself. Perhaps most men would benefit from being a lot harder on themselves. I think I see a lot of men coming up with a lot of excuses for permanent failure. I see it all the time why I can't pay my bills to them. Okay, cool. Why? Oh, you know, because it's hard. It's all just sympathy bullshit. I don't. I don't want to hear it. It's garbage. It's hard. It's hard for everybody. And you're going to have to just be harder on yourself and pull it off or fail. And don't talk to me. I. Bro, It's. It's. I don't know what to say. I don't want to come across the psychopath, but it's like life is difficult. And also, I mean, we all. We all know that everyone. There's always someone who has it worse. But that's. That's true. I mean, we're in Romania. You can drive five hours to the border and you'll find men in a ditch getting blown apart by drones. You're crying over what? A bitch left you, a girl left you, some chick who doesn't love you anymore. And you know you're not going to do your work because of it. Well, then you're just born to lose.
Why do you call women bitches and hoes?
I don't call them hoes. I say a bitch left you. And I say it because if a man's talking about his womanly, I guess it's a detrimental way because he's obviously mad at her. I don't. Yeah, I don't. I'm actually going to make this clear. I no longer prescribe to the asinine the parameters of of these attack words. They use these words like misogynistic and homophobic and racist. All these words are just an attack.
They're weapons.
They're weapons and they're weaponized so that you don't have an opinion on certain subjects. I have opinions on females and I have opinions on males. I have opinions on cats and dogs and the rain and the sunshine. I have opinions on certain things and some of them are generalized.
Why do people hate things that they see in others that they actually want themselves?
Well, I think that envy is designed to motivate, but the matrix has taken envy and it's corrupted it. So I've always been I've told this story on other podcasts before, but I've been an envious person. I've told this story because it was so pertinent to me about how most people don't care. I was walking to school. I was walking to Sixth Form College in Luton. I was 16, 17 years old and I used to have to walk about.
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Hour each day to school. And it was raining and I was walking and I was walking with three of my friends in a Ferrari. It was a F430, I think. Pulled up at the.
That was my first Ferrari.
Yeah, pull up at the lights, made a bunch of noise. And I was standing there and I watched it. And then the light went green and tore off. And I said to my friends, I was like, bro, how do we get Ferraris? And he's like, what do you mean? I was like, my mom is on a council estate. Single mother. She raises three kids on £300amonth. We can barely afford food. He has 200 grand for a car, liquid for a car. Something is broken. None of the teachers at school have Ferraris. None of the our university professors have Ferrari. No one else I know has a Ferrari. What do we have to do to break the matrix and find the money? This is all a lie. I want a Ferrari. And my friends were like, don't know.
That's why I have wrong friends.
Well, no, that's why I have Ferraris and they don't. That's why I now have 33 Ferraris. Because I want. I was envious. I was envious of this man. Most people don't care.
But you turned envy into learning how to figure it out.
Well, I turned. I turned envy into anger. And anger is power. But what we have people doing now, because people are. Because they don't believe in themselves, because the matrix has dampened their soul when they feel envious, because they want to level the playing field, which is all envy is. Instead of trying to elevate themselves, they try and drag others down. So when people look at my life and they're envious of me, what they should say is, he's truly from the most humble possible socioeconomic beginnings. He is a person of color from a council estate, a single mother household. He is the bracket of criminal human trafficker. He's at the bottom. And he made it up to the highest session launch. He's on the phone with Elon Musk and is a billionaire. If he can do it, I can do it. But they don't believe in themselves. So what they do instead is, well, I want to level the playing field, so I got to drag him down. And they do that primarily through character assassination. So, well, he has all these things, but he's a bad person. I'm a good person. And it's the matrix, they don't believe in themselves anymore. So envy, when you're trying to drag others down is actually. It's just laziness because you feel envious, but you don't have enough fire about yourself to go out there and attack the world and equal the playing field with vigor. So you want to equal the playing field with by dragging someone else down. It's just laziness. Lazy people act that way. People who are not lazy would see me as an inspiration, but inspiration is only envy. That's all it is. So I think humans are designed to be envious. And I think the correct mental model for envy is inspiration. And the incorrect mental model for envy is going to be attempting to attack someone's character. And I think, I guess, I guess it's a survival mechanism. If you see your opponent has three rocks and you only have two, you want four. Otherwise you're gonna lose.
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Well, I guess I might have to race, my friend.
You said you only drive four of them. I've only got seven, but they're all in the garage at the same time.
Broken up. I'm joking. I'm joking. No, but you know what?
I bet most of your inner circle haven't got as many cars as I have.
Oh, no, you're completely right.
But they all go wrong all the time. Time. And only one or two of them actually want to drive.
Correct. And it's funny because I have so many of the same car. Like, I have three SF 90s. All three of a currently have a warning light. I have four 765s. Only one of them's working, bro. So, yeah, it's a nightmare.
And then you've lost it for a month because it's got to go back to the garage. And then it's a 25 grand bill for a correct gearbox. You don't need correct.
It is a nightmare. The reason I buy so many cars is because I'm passionate about cars. And I guess you say I'm very hard on myself, but I like to spoil myself with cars because I can't think of another way to spoil myself. Clothes. Okay. You buy a wardrobe of clothes. How many clothes do you wear? Diamond watches. Okay, I had 30 diamond watches. Boring.
Let me ask you about it.
What's there to buy besides cars? Please. You're another very high net worth individual. Please correct me, because I buy a new car every week because I'm bored. What else am I supposed to buy with all my money?
Yeah, cars, watches, clothes, assets.
Work experiences are great, but I'm locked in remaining. Just buy cars, nothing else to do. I bought like 40 cars since I got out of jail. There's nothing dirty cars, whatever.
Have you bought a lot since coming out of jail?
Oh, yeah.
Is this a reaction to it?
It's like, you know, it's funny, when they raided my house, the first thing the police said is, where's the Bugatti? First words. It's almost like the Romanian state just wanted to steal money. Interesting. Anyway, back to jail. When they raided my house, I have a safe and I have all my diamond watches in a safe on a spoolie and it's bulletproof glass and blah, blah, blah. And then I open the safe and I was like, well, what happens if I don't? Mr. Ski Mask with the shotgun, he says, well, you're going to jail, so it doesn't matter if it takes us three months with a chainsaw, we're getting in that safe and we're gonna destroy your house while we. I was like, well, that's a pretty valid time. Is the fire in which we all burn, including a safe. I mean, it can hold someone out for a certain amount of time, and I'm sure with months of time, they'd get in. So I opened the safe and they took all my watches. I had 30 diamond watches in the collection. And so what?
Millions of pounds.
Millions of pounds, yeah. And my first phone call from jail.
I think that's the universe of universe's way of saying, don't ruin a fucking nice watch with all those diamonds.
Ruin? What do you mean?
But you've got a lovely Patek Nautilus there, correct?
Yeah.
And you have, like.
You think it's ruined. Yeah.
Keep it natural.
Oh, you know what? You know what this is? That.
That's like a woman plastered with cosmetic surgery, brother.
This. This is. This is just because I'm happy. You don't.
I don't. The icing I get.
We have powers.
Maybe you can educate me.
You need some. Some dancehall. So when they took. When they took all my watch collection, the first phone call I made from jail was to a friend of mine in Dubai. And I said, I want them all again. Call X, he'll pay the bill. $11 million. I want them all again. So I got duplicates of them all made again because I slept better in bed knowing that I had them all made. And now they're all made in Switzerland in a safe, all made. If I get them back from decal, that'd be fantastic. Then I have two of everyone. Maybe I can wear one diamond watch on each wrist. That'll piss you off.
That will piss you off.
Yeah, there we go. You fucking ruined a lovely one. Don't worry, I have the one on each wrist. But what about doing that to me? There's nothing else to do with money. That's the reason I buy cars, because there's literally nothing else to do. People have this idea that they got rich, they buy all this stuff, but truthfully, what do you need? You need a phone and a laptop. You need a place to live. That's life. And then you buy. You have some clothes, you have some watches and you have some cars, and that's it. There's literally nothing else to buy. So I just buy them all because I'm doing okay. That's why. And seven cars is actually a very responsible, sensible number of cars. They're a very responsible, sensible.
I don't know, I want anymore. I think I'm like, for me, too many women. I couldn't handle 11 wives. I can't handle one. Yeah, seven's a good number.
It is. And yeah, I guess I'm just irresponsible. That's the wrong word.
Are you a hedonist?
No, I don't think I am.
But I don't know if you don't seek any pleasure from it.
It's not like I spoil myself with cars. I feel like if I'm going to go through all this stress and all this pain.
So it's a representation of your self worth, of yourself. I feel I'm worthy and I want to reward myself.
I just feel. I. You know what? I don't even drive them. I just. I like, I think what I think, if I have to analyze it, what I truly think it is, I think it's because it's most men's dream. Most men's dream is a Lamborghini, let's say. And they have to save and they have to finance it and work out how they're going to pay for it, and they have to get the garage for it, and it's a big deal. So by me trivializing that big deal, it highlights to me the echelon of my life. If I walk into a car dealer and say, what have you. What have you got right now? Oh, this and this. Okay, don't ask the price. Don't. Don't care what it is, don't care what it costs, and pay for it and then leave it at the dealership for four months before eventually it collects on a truck because I never pick it up and it goes into some storage unit somewhere. It's like I get other people's dreams with ease. I take their dream scenario and I trivialize it into just, yeah, okay. I don't even want it. And I think that that's what I enjoy about it. It's kind of like, why is he. Did he. Well, it's kind of like a man's in love with a supermodel. I love supermodel. And he writes on her Instagram. And these dudes. This is real. A man's in love with a girl on Instagram. She's got 3 million followers and she's beautiful and he's liking her posts and writing underneath it. And he's inboxing her and she's not replying and he's obsessed with her. And I'm like, yeah, okay. Coffee. Fine. Tuesday. Do I really want to talk to her? No. But this man wants it so bad that I have to make it so ridiculously easy. I guess it's kind of like a peacock putting up his feather. You know, Or a lion saying, don't come near my territory. Don't come near my tree, or I'll annihilate you. It's the same in a fiscal stance. So I just take other people's dreams and I reduce them to nothing, to dust. And then I put it in storage. And then I forget that I even have the car. Most of the till I'm reminded it needs a service, and then I'm annoyed I have it. Unless a headache, then it gets serviced, then it goes back in storage. I just. I just take other. Maybe I'm a dream catcher. I take other people's dreams, take them all, put them in a big warehouse, tape warehouse, and then these people get mad at it. Some people listen to this and are inspired by it. Some people get mad. And those are the two camps. The ones who believe I shouldn't be in jail and the ones who rejoice when I go to jail. The ones who rejoice when I go to jail, though, don't understand. A very important part of this whole equation is that jail makes me stronger.
Well, I was just going to say they don't understand the balanced upside of going to jail, because everything has a balanced upside.
There's no, like. Exactly.
They think it's bad, and you're getting all the good from it.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
They're like, oh, he went to jail.
Ha ha ha.
But it makes me a stronger version of myself. I build mental resilience. More people talk about my case, I become more famous than ever before.
Oh, for your fame, jail was the best fucking thing for you. End of all. I did. They just did you a massive favor.
Thank you.
Have you seen Star Wars?
No.
Oh, okay. Well, I'll say it then. But there's a. There's a scene where one of the Jedis, Obi Wan Kenobi, is fighting the evil Darth Vader, and he puts his lightsaber up and he goes, strike me down. I will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine. And that's exactly what happened to you. You became far more powerful because they struck you down.
Absolutely.
So they fucked themselves.
Well, exactly. There's no light without dark. But a lot of that isn't luck.
A lot of that is, will you watch that Star wars scene now?
I will never watch Star wars in my life.
Not even for me?
I can't. I made a tweet about it that went very viral a few years ago. Never seen Star Wars. You didn't know about his tweet? No, I said, I've Never seen Star wars ever. And everyone tells me I need to watch it, which means I'm gonna refuse to watch.
I don't think you need to watch. You just need to watch that scene because you can put yourself in the scene.
I'll see if I can fit it in the schedule among the wives. But. But my jail making me more powerful wasn't luck. If the average person is sitting here going, ah, they put Andrew in jail. That's why he's famous, well, then you're a fool. Because if the average person goes to jail, they don't come out famous.
No cause and effect. You caused it.
You make your own luck. You have to make your own luck in all things. The fact I called it in advance was important. The fact I managed to stay relevant while I was in jail was important. The fact that I operated in a way when I was in jail, that I came out with stories was important. Please understand. I made mass murderers apologize to me. Please understand. If I bumped into someone or some bumped into me, I said sorry. And they didn't say anything. I said, brother, I said sorry to you people who would kill people. So the way I conduct myself is the reason I came out of jail with certain stories, the reason I left jail. And I'm not financially destitute like they intended. When you put someone in jail for three months and then lock them in their house for five months, they can't work. When you seized all their bank accounts and all the assets they can find, and then you put them in jail for three months and five months on house arrest, they can't leave their house. The goal of that is to financially decimate you. The fact that I'm still buying brand new supercars once a week is the reason jails made me famous. No one can work out how I'm doing it. And I'll say it here, and the people in that dark room are like, go find it. Find the money. Where's the money?
Did it make you better at managing and moving your money? Being in jail, having to move and manage your money?
Well, I was. I was prepared for a matrix attack from the beginning. But I guess now it's, I've been to the test and I've been, okay. I've always understood that anything you have in your name, you don't own. And anything you think you own is just a piece of paper. And all the judge has to do is stamp another piece of paper. And you don't own anything.
So own nothing. Control everything.
That's the goal. So I was Prepared for all this. So jail made me famous. Yes, because I was prepared for it.
Well, you'd already made yourself famous before jail completely.
But also, if I had left jail mentally broken and financially broken, it wouldn't have made me more famous. So. And. And physically broken. Because all those three things could have happened. Please understand. I was in 24 hour a day lockdown. My cell was half the size of this room. And I didn't leave, I didn't get a gym, I didn't come out looking all scrawny. I didn't get good nutrition, I didn't get good food. I had most people in there. I had mental health problems. If I would have come out there all skinny and mentally broken, then it would have been game over. So there's. There's also a degree of my competence in all things. But the people who laugh at me going to jail don't understand that there's no light without dark. And I'm an expert. I guess if you were to say one of my skills is my. I'm an expert at being hard on myself. And if life's going to be hard on me, I'm going to aikido that into power. I would believe I'm a stronger version of myself post jail. And if you put me back, I'll emerge stronger than ever before. Send me to jail. Fine, send me to jail right now. I'll go. I'm not going to fight. Put me in Ankar. Send me to jail. The day you let me out, I'll be a stronger version of the day I went in. So what do I have to fear? Because if you truly want an exceptional life, this is one of the mistakes a lot of people make. They want an exceptional life, but they only want the exceptional good because they're cowards. Like, I want a lot of money and fast cars. Cool. You don't want the exceptional stress. You want the exceptional car collection. You don't want the exceptional stress. You want to be me when I'm flying my bugatti on a 380 and I'm in first class emirates and my Bugatti is below me and I'm filming it with for Take Confidential. You want that. But you don't want to be me when I'm in a Romanian dungeon, but there is no light. If you want the exceptional good, you're going to have the exceptional bad. That is a law of the universe that can't be broken. That is not human law. That's universal law. So if you're sitting at home saying I want an exceptional life. Then you have to be prepared for both the good and the bad. Because if you're not prepared for the bad, what's going to happen on your ascent to good? As you begin to get anywhere, something will happen, some degree of stress or whatever, and it's going to derail you. And you're never going to get to the highest echelon. So. I've always been ready for the bad. I'm totally prepared for the bad. I was made in the dark, molded by it. I'm banging. Put me in the bad. My whole life's been bad. My whole life's been terrible. I've known nothing but pain. So I don't care. And I'm not gonna lie to you. Part of me truly hopes I go back. Because I know what. I'm 80 if I make it that long. Those years. Okay, they dropped the case. What were those years spent doing? I make beautiful children with beautiful women. I drive beautiful cars. I stay in beautiful hotels. I fly on my beautiful private command. Nice story, but maybe the story would be a bit cool. I'm crazy. Maybe the story's cooler. Maybe.
Maybe.
And I kind of like that. It's up to God. I'm gonna do my very best to not go to jail. Of course. I'm a responsible adult. But if I lose this Matrix attack, let's imagine it's all been set up from the. It's all designed to destroy my influence. And they've realized my influence is not being destroyed. And they've realized I'm not gonna shut up. And I haven't learned my lesson. I. And I'm still here running my mouth. And they're going to put me back in the dungeon for five years, six years, seven years, eight years, ten years when I'm older. That'd be a cool story, wouldn't it? What's the point? Being alive, you haven't got story. Yeah, so I kind of like it's up in the air. It's a coin flip. Heads is good, tails is good. It is what it is. I'm not afraid and I refuse to be, because that's what they want. They want me to be afraid. They want me to not smile and they want me to shut up. So I refuse to.
Because I'm stubborn, you know? You're converting to Islam. Was that kind of like a PR stunt?
Absolutely not. I think that it is the last religion on Earth. If you believe in God, you're a Muslim. What's a Christian?
Well, what's a Muslim? What's any other religious belief.
If you do not have strong parameters because of your religious belief, then you're not. And Christians no longer have strong parameters. Everyone says they're a Christian. Nobody acts like a Christian. I don't respect it anymore and that's why I had to revert to Islam. I was raised in a Christian household. My family's actually extremely religious. I live in a very Christian nation, but I don't see Christianity. This is the most Christian nation on earth and you do see it. If I drive into the mountains, you'll see nuns, there's nunneries, they have huge churches here. You can see it a little bit. You can feel the Christian aspect to it. If you are a realist, you can be called lots of things. By extension, if you are a realist, some of your opinions will make you be called a misogynist. If you are a realist, some of your opinions will be make. You will make them call you homophobic. If you are a realist, you will sit and say, if a man breaks into my house, I must defend my woman because she can't find. Some people will call that misogynistic. If you are a realist, you'll say that homosexuals can't have children and that they should be raised by a man and a woman. That would make you be called homophobic. So when you say misogynist, I will counter that and say, no, I am a realistic and I refuse to adhere to the Matrix propaganda. That's my answer.
So one word that comes to mind when I say the UK failed. I knew it. Begin with F. The BBC propaganda. Piers Morgan.
He's honest. No, that's the wrong word. He's. He's transparent. I'm going to expand on that. Piers holds no views. Piers is the opposite of what you believe and he comes at you with it every single time. If you believe the sky is blue, he believes the sky is green. Believe the sky is green. He believes the sky is blue. I don't think he tries to stab you in the back, he attempts to stab you in the chest. And it is his goal to start an argument to get as many views as possible by disagreeing with everything you say. That's what Piers Morgan does. I know what he's going to do. I made a fool of him. So it's fine. That's Piers Morgan head to toe. I don't think he truly believes half the things he says. No, I don't think he believes anything he says. I don't think he believes anything I think he just waits to hear you say something and argues with you about it. Kind of like a chick.
Next, one word comes to mind. Donald Trump.
Hero. He's our last hope. I'm going to expand on this. Donald Trump is the last hope of Western civilization. He can't stop the decay, but he can slow it down. If he doesn't win, it's over. If Trump doesn't win, it is over. Game over. Because the circumstances around him not winning are going to be insane. And the degree of I'm thinking, because this is the stuff that's going to get me assassinated. There's no way Donald Trump can't win unless something happens. And if something happens, we're going to see not only a breakdown in faith of the systems, but you're also going to see a whole huge degree of cope from the people who you think would be up in arms. Foreign. This episode was brought to you by Disruptive Media, helping bold entrepreneurs stand out through podcasting, video and social content. Visit disruptive media.co.uk to learn more. This episode was brought to you by Disruptive Media, helping bold entrepreneurs stand out through podcasting, video and social content. Visit disruptivemedia.co.uk to learn more.
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