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Andrew, what do you think of Bonnie blue sleeping with 1057 men?

How honest should I be out of 10?

I want you to be honest.

You want to be honest?

Honest? Yeah, go on.

I don't understand why men sit here and try and lecture you about it. I don't understand why men sit here and say, you shouldn't do it. It's your body, your choice, right? This is the world we now live in. This is the end result of feminism. You are the perfect end result of feminism. In the world I believe in, in the conservative, traditionally masculinely ruled world, a man would be in charge of his daughters until they're handed over to their husbands or boyfriends, and there would be a degree of masculine guidance. But feminism didn't want that. You know, women complained that men don't want to get married. We did actually want to get married when we got obedient virgins, but they disappeared and they complained about the patriarchy, and they were tired of us giving them a house to live in and kids to raise, and they wanted to make their own choices. So she's making her own choice. That's a fantastic thing. I actually have a lot of respect for you because you own it and you're honest about it.

What if it was your daughter?

Well, that won't happen.

But she's her own person.

I never said my daughter's her own person. I said. I said women want to be their own people. But my point is, there's so many women who go to Magaluf for a weekend and do something very similar, and then they come back to England and get with some guy and start asking for presents from him and talking about how they deserve a traditional relationship and they want to get married and they want a Christmas present and all this bullshit. Most women do exactly what Bonnie does. I don't see you any different than most women. And I'm not saying that in a degradation.

Most women don't sleep with 1057 men in a day.

1000. Does it fucking matter?

I think it does.

I don't really think it does. It's all disgusting to me. If I met a woman and she said, I just sucked a dick yesterday, I'd say, well, I find you repulsive. I don't want to sleep with you. Goodbye.

So you're only going after virgins?

Well, it's not about only going after virgins, but I think if you're a straight man, the idea of having a bunch of men fuck a woman that you're with, it's pretty repulsive.

Everyone has a past.

This is the kind of white people say this is. I don't know what's wrong with you people. Everyone has a past. That's not acceptable. In fact, let's analyze that. Everyone has a past. You're right. Everyone does have a past. It's true. But isn't the primary objective of a man to find a woman with as little past as possible? Would you argue that's one of the precursors to finding a wife, considering that wives were supposed to be virgins? This was the deal, the reason. I'm proud of Bonnie and I am genuinely proud of you. I am. You can. I like Bonnie. I like what she's doing.

Because the deal was, are you not, like, contradicting yourself?

In what way?

Well, you're proud of us sleeping with 1057 guys, but women should be virgins.

No, I'm saying that the social contract, the construct of society that made family function was women were obedient virgins and they found a man who provided for them and they listened to that man. Women have then said, we don't like the patriarchy. We're tired of being provided for. We're tired of being taken care of. We don't want to listen to anybody. We want to make our own decisions. That was women and feminism. That ended the traditional family unit. And now women can make their own decisions. So I'm glad that Bonnie's making her own decision.

I'm not here to tell you how to do it. I take women back 100 years, I might know. I'm the clear example of how to be empowered. I use my body. I do what I want, when I want to. And this is a thing you've been banging on about for years. And when I get hate, like when I click on the comments of these women that like, oh, you're taking us back 100 years, then in their bio, it's a stay at home mom of two. I'm thinking, what the fuck was you rooting for? Because you have just stayed at home.

That's right, Bonnie. See, this is the future.

Yeah, I'm.

This is the future. This is fantastic. It's exactly what it. What western society is headed to. So why are we going to sit here and pretend this is not. Why are we going to sit here and pretend that most women who go on girls holidays aren't doing something similar to what Bonnie does just because it's not on camera. Why are we going to sit here and pretend that these men who walk around with their wives in the pub in England. They're like, oh, my wife, yeah, everyone has a past. Oh, no, she's done the same shit. What's the difference? Who gives a fuck, right? We either going to care and accept that women are judged on their past and judged on their innocence and judged on their naivety and judged on these things like it used to be, or we're going to sit and say, it doesn't matter. Everyone has a past. Well, if everyone has a past, everyone has a past. Who gives a fuck? Does it really matter? So anymore.

What would you do if it was your daughter, though?

But why are you talk asking impossible questions?

Well, it's not an impossible question how it can't happen. But anything can happen.

It's against the laws of physics. It's not.

I mean, if your daughter opened her legs and took a thousand stick a thousand dicks, it's not impossible.

Of course it is.

What, why is it possible? Enter her pussy.

Therefore, she's taken literally impossible for my daughter.

What are you going to be there against your daughter's pussy saying that dick's not entering her?

No, my daughter just wouldn't make that decision.

But why?

Because I still raise her in a household where she is masculinely guided, and she will be guided by me until I hand her over to some other man. However, I believe when women are left to their own devices, they will only ever make stupid decisions.

Was mine a stupid decision?

I wouldn't say it's any more stupid than most decisions women make. To be honest with you. I think that most women to some degree are sex workers anyway. Like, let's. Let's be honest about it, right? Most women look at Miami or Dubai. What's your job? Oh, I've got a boyfriend. So your job is being a girlfriend. And why does he give you money? Because you give him sex. So most, most women are sex workers anyway, to be honest.

But isn't that what you said the family. Family unit was?

Well, then you're a sex worker with one customer, you know, which is nice. I guess it's better. It's more efficient.

But what about if you're raising children? That's not sex work, is it?

No, that's being a mother.

Yeah.

All right, so that's interesting. Rob. Rob said this, not me. So they're either virgins, sex workers, or mothers. Are those the three categories?

I think you're putting words into my.

I think that's what Rob just said. Those are the three categories.

I just sat in the middle.

And women have to choose to be one of them.

So is that what you think?

I think that when a woman becomes a mother, she has a purpose. And I think that women should be having children as soon as possible. And I think it gives their life a direction. And I think it's the most important thing to preserve society, especially if you want to talk about geopolitics and talk about race and all of these things. If you want to have a country that looks like the country it used to be, you need to have the original people from there having children. I think all of that is true. Absolutely. I think every day a woman goes without having kids is primarily a waste of time. But once again, what does it matter what I think? Rob, I've given up. Rob. I've given up trying to save the world. No, no, no, Rob.

No, you haven't.

I've given up on misogyny and all this.

No, you haven't.

They attacked me with the Matrix. They keep throwing me in jail. I am now all for women empowerment. I think women should run around fucking as many men as they want. I like what Bonnie's doing. She's getting. She's getting the bag. She's getting rich. Most girls out here don't want to have kids. They just want to get Birkin bags and Instagram likes. Good, good. I'm a feminist. Pro feminism. This is the world now. How the world's going to end up. Who gives a fuck? Who cares about the future?

See, women go around, use sex to their advantage, but then are happy to cry about it straight away, saying, oh, we took advantage of me. And it's like, you're the one that wanted to do sex, to have, like, the job promotion, or you're the one that wanted to have sex to get more attention or try and be more light, but then they cry about it. And that's what I get frustrated about. And even with porn stars, like, people in my industry, they'll do this for a few years. Get the money, get the boob jobs, get the house, and then suddenly they go, oh, my God, I was forced into the industry. Oh, my God, someone took all my money.

Have you ever considered a job as a lawyer? I could do with you. You're 100, right? So this is the false dichotomy of society, right? So this is the reason when I said, I like what Bonnie does, because Bonnie completely 100 owns what she does. And she says, it's my decision. And I've seen people try and lecture you. I've seen people sit there and try and lecture you and say, like, oh, but you're a creature of God and you shouldn't be doing this. No. You should do whatever the you want.

Exactly.

It's up to you to do whatever you want. And you're not saying anybody tricked you into it. It's your decision. And let's be honest, when they talk about taking women back 100 years, let's actually be very honest here, Rob. No disrespect.

No disrespect.

There's always been. Ancient Rome had whores. There's always been. The Aztecs had whores. You think there weren't concubines in the Ming Dynasty sucking little Chinese pee pee? Of course there were. There's always been. Oldest profession in the world.

Exactly.

So do you think it's a legitimate job?

Well, I mean. No. Check her bank. I'm sure she's making loads of money. So this is. Here's. Where do you draw the line if we're going to live in this false dichotomy? Because the world was very simple once, not too long ago, and men had this terrible misogynistic view, which I of course, don't agree with, that women can't make their own decisions because they're naturally chaotic. And when women decide anything, life's fucked up. In fact, these men in their disgusting. No, no. These men in their disgusting misogyny believed if you gave women the vote, we'd end up with open borders and drag queen story hours. So they didn't give women the vote then. They did give women the vote and society took a particular direction. But when men were in charge of things, women didn't have to worry about what they can do with their life because their father took care of it and then their husband took care of it. But now we live in a brand new world where women can make all of their own decisions. And the path she's chosen, I don't think is any different than most paths women take. I think she's just more honest about it and more upfront about it. If you're going to go to Dubai and meet a girlfriend and you think she hasn't been fucking for money the entire time she was living in Dubai, then you're an idiot. If you're in Miami and you got girls on your boat and you think they're not for money all of the time, now, they may not say per hour, but they'll be fucking a guy they barely like to get their rent paid. Or they're a guy they barely like because he has a car.

Yeah.

So women are for Money all the time anyway. That's all women do now. The entire Western world is women for money. So how hypocritical would it be for me to sit here and say, Bonnie, who is honest, who monetizes it directly with her own media empire, who's upfront about it and makes money from it, is a worse person than the girl who walks around like she's goody two shoes and then sucks dick in a magaloof toilet. Because that's what most girls are doing anyway. Rob. The world's fucked. They're all like this, Rob. They're all the same.

You trying to say I'm not special now?

No, I'm saying you're special, actually, because you've gone so far through. You've come out as the queen of it, because congratulations.

But didn't you say this kind of thing is the demise of Western society?

I mean, if I was a misogynist, I would believe this is the final end result of feminism and the end times are here and that nobody's going to have kids anymore and that the idea of a beautiful marriage between a man and a woman is now completely gone. I mean, if I was a disgusting misogynist. But since they keep.

But you don't have one beautiful marriage, do you?

No, I don't. No, I don't.

Have you slept with 10, 57 women?

At least?

So are you quite similar?

Absolutely not.

Why not?

Because it's the male's prerogative to impregnate as many females as possible. This is the masculine prerogative. This is biologically my prerogative is to do that.

I think we should do a breeding competition. We'll see which. If you can get a girl pregnant quicker than I can get pregnant, well.

I mean, that'd be a good competition, I think. I. I think I'd win. I don't know. I'm not sure about that one. But it's interesting because. No, but it's interesting because you have to look at society, when you look at these things, you have to look at society from an animalistic perspective and a societal perspective. From the animalistic perspective, it is the masculine imperative to get as many women as possible pregnant.

No, but if you want to be purely 15, 12.

No, but let's be purely animalistic. Let's. Let's talk about this like professionals. If a man is high value, high testosterone, alpha male, whatever you want to call him, right, his imperative is to impregnate women, and he wants to take care of those women and take care of Those kids, He's not overly interested in the kids. It doesn't mean he doesn't love them. It means he doesn't want to sit there and play with them all day. When you see a man who wants to play with a baby all day, that man is probably gay. That's fucking boring.

That doesn't mean he wants to fuck the kids.

No, no, no, he's gay. He's gay. So real men just want to. Pregnant money. Cool. See you an hour a week. Boom, boom, boom. Now, there's a lot of men who are going to disagree with me on that, but those are a lot of men I can beat the shit out of. So I don't give a fuck. That's the truth of it. The female imperative is to find a man who's obsessed with her so that when she gets pregnant, she's going to have protection and provision when she's not capable of looking after herself. That is the female biological imperative and the masculine biological imperative. I'm still living to my biological imperative to some degree. If I were to, let's say, have four or five women and I had kids with four or five women and I took care of four or five women and I was with all of them, and they were exclusively only with me and we had children over and over and over again. That's my biological imperative. It's actually against the female biological imperative to do what Bonnie is doing. I would argue traditionally that means you. You break paradigms. That's great. But feminism and society and this brand new societal conditioning is convincing women that what they're supposed to do, which is find a man they love and be obsessed with him and get pregnant from him, is the wrong thing to do. Well, then let's all just become sex workers now.

But you disagree with that feminist.

I don't have an opinion, Rob, because I have 14 criminal cases. I don't have an opinion. I'm. I'm a commentator. I'm just. I'm just commentating. I don't have an opinion. No, I don't have an opinion. Women can do whatever they want. Women are fantastic. We live in this great society now where women are girl bosses and better than us, while also our equals to everything, while also everything they do they regret was a man's fault. Somehow, as Bonnie described, they were tricked into it. So we live in this impossible situation where a man can't possibly win anyway, no matter what opinion he has. But I'm just saying it would be unprofessional and hypocritical. Of me to sit here and think that Bonnie is doing anything different or anything bad or anything wrong when she does the same thing 99.9 of Western women do. Anyway.

Okay, so Bonnie, you get.

Well, you get one extreme to the next. You get the women like me that are just slots, and then you get the others that are lazy and won't even get on the knees and give a blow job.

And they're slots. No, but this is the thing. They're slots too. They're just slots for a different guy. Or they were slots for their ex and they're not slots for the new guy. That's the. These women are slots too. It's all the same.

So I used to be a, like full service sex worker, like an escort. And I used to judge men that cheated. And then when I actually started speaking to these men, I was like, you know what? They've got a point. They're going to work, they're looking after their kids. They're still emptying the dishes because the wife's now refusing to do that, saying it should be equal. And then I say, when's the last time she gave you a blowjob? When's the last time she. You. They couldn't name it. They couldn't even like, list the amount of times where they've had sexual intercourse. I'm like, of course you're going to need that. Of course you're going to cheat. So how, how can I ever say women are anything but lazy and poorly educated?

So do you think you're a good role model for women?

I'm a clear example of what women have fought for for years.

Of what?

Taking control of your body.

Correct.

Being independent. I earn my own money. I don't rely on a guy. I'm not exactly. I'm paid more than other guys.

Do you, do you think she is.

A clear example of what women have been fighting for for years? Absolutely correct. Now, I'm not going to sit here and lecture you about God. I'm not going to sit here and. No, that's all. She is a clear example of what women have been fighting for for years.

Yeah.

Women believe that they can do whatever they want.

Do you think they should be able to?

Listen, Brother, I have 14 criminal cases. I don't want to be called a misogynist by the BBC. That would break my heart. I. That's not up to me. We're all individual, individual sovereign people and we make our own decisions. If women want to run around and do whatever they want to do, it's up to them. My point is, all women on some scale, are doing what Bonnie Blue is doing. However, Bonnie Blue is just the best at it. She's the best. She's the queen of it. So why. It's.

It's not all women are doing.

Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. If a man walks into Starbucks and steals a chocolate bar, he's a thief. Yeah.

Not in London. Well, it's legal.

Yeah. And if a banker manages to liquidate a ton of stock illegally in the stock market or rip off a bunch of people with a false investment fund, whatever it is, he's a thief. Right? The morality is the same. Whether you're stealing from the Wall street or you're stealing from Starbucks. The morality of it is the same. But people will sit there and argue that the banker is somehow worse than the guy who stole the chocolate bar because of how much he stole. I wouldn't argue. There's a difference in morality, there's a difference in capability, but the morality is the same. The banker's just smarter.

I'm just a clever slut.

You're just very good. She is very good at what she's decided to do. If you're gonna be a. And most women watching this, and most men. Hello, your wife. Yeah, her. They're all. Anyway, if you're gonna be a. No disrespect. You may as well be fucking good at it. Get a media empire, get rich. Let everyone know your name and get paid. Why are you going out to the pub, getting drunk and meeting a man who's funny? Getting in a toilet for free. Are you dumb?

They are, though. Women are stupid.

They're stupid. So Bonnie's just the smartest. She's the Wall street banker of this ho shit. I respect that much more than these other girls. Rob. I grew up in Luton, England, bruv. You think I don't know hoes? You think I haven't seen it? You think I haven't walked in the toilet and some has got five dudes hanging out of her? This is the Western world. This is feminism. This is what all you white boys wanted. All you white men listening to women all the time. Women get to opinions, all of a sudden, this is what you build. Congratulations.

So you blame men?

Well, 100. I blame men because everything's men's fault. Because men are the only ones who can apply force to scenarios. Women can't apply force. Men apply force. If there's something we don't like, we apply force to the situation. We could force this away. We could force most things away. So everything's absolutely men's fault. And this came from. I mean, the feminism and the women's sexualization and the liberation, a lot of it came from beta males hoping they get some. That's what it came from. A bunch of weak men, though if we told girls to be hoes, I might get a little bit. Because the natural order of the universe is the big gorilla, top G smart. I'm so smart. The big gorilla, top G has a bunch of women, and then the small gorilla has nothing. This is the natural order of the universe. It's actually kind of still like that in many ways. There's a guy with the yacht with 10 wives, and then there's a guy with no yacht with no wife. It's kind of like that. But beta males didn't like that because they couldn't obviously compete with the top guy. So they've tried to push this sexual liberation, hoping to get a little bit of. And it probably works a little bit. But society is destroyed by extension, if you want to look at society for what it is. Because what is society anything other than rearing and raising children? That's what society should be. I would argue society should be. The primary function of it should be, let's have kids so that we have a population. We have a population collapse in the West.

Yeah, I think they should have a choice. I before used to think, oh, my God, I really want kids. I want a family. But it's because I was so naive to what else was open to the world. I just thought, okay, I need to get married. I need to, you know, have children. I need to get a good job. And that was what I thought life was. And then I was like, fuck, there's so much more to life rather than just staying in that, you know, finishing school, going to uni, getting married, buying a house, and you just copy everyone else. Like half the we do is because someone else has done it.

Okay, Bonnie, so let me ask you a question. I agree with you that now that we've opened up female horizons with education, with jobs, with the capability of making money with Instagram and all these offers, they get to fly around the world and all these things, women don't want to have kids or they want to have kids later because they have a lot more options that we. I agree with you. But would you argue if you were to look at it selflessly, not about the ant, but about the ant farm at large, that keeping women's horizons more narrow so they focused on rearing children would be better for society than the current society we're in, where we have to import a whole bunch of fuck knows who's into the country to try and maintain a population because the white people aren't even having any fucking kids because the white women are too busy sucking dicks in Magalu.

Did you understand that?

To a certain degree. But I also couldn't give a shit. The world's going to shit anyway, so whether or not we've got more kids in it or not, it's fucked regardless. So just live your life the best. You're going to be dead in however many years anyway, so don't stress too much.

Fair. Fair. And this is what I like about Bonnie. Blue body blue is my favorite. This is my favorite everything fair. Because what you just said I understand and I agree with.

But it's selfish.

But what did have I said?

Why should I, why should I not be selfish? Why should I give a about someone else that pays less tax than me has, you know, sits a complaints, makes shitty tick tocks by me like I couldn't give a. If your life's going by the looks of it, you live in a council house, you've got a couple of kids with different dads. I don't care. So why should I sit there and think I should do something to help you. I don't care. I should focus on myself. And if more people did that, the world actually be a better place. But they've come so fixated on other people. I'm like, where's your life? Why are you not focused on yourself? Like, look in the mirror, you're fat, go and do something about it. Your teeth have that much plaque on it. Like, you're like, there's no way out for you.

No, no, but, but, but, but is.

This a good role model?

No. Yes, because no, but.

No. Yes.

No, no. What Bonnie's saying is important here. And it's not about what she's saying, it's about the general attitude. Because what I want to make clear, the reason society was run by men for so long is that men have a different biological instinct to women and we're prepared to suffer for the greater good. Women are not very good at suffering. Men are good sufferers.

Look back at the wars, there's so much evidence of it.

Well, of course. And also, let's just look at the normal family you talked about these men who come and see you, right? But happy wife, happy life is true. And the reason it's true is because if the wife is unhappy, everyone's miserable because she'll make sure of it. But if the man's unhappy, everyone else can be happy. He'll suffer. He'll sit with no sex, he'll go to work every day, he won't see his friends. He'll be miserable, he'll be depressed, he'll still pay the bills, he'll still pay the taxes, and everyone else gets to be happy. Men are good at suffering. Women are spiteful sufferers, and for that reason, they struggle to do anything. They struggle to suffer themselves for any greater good. Men have always died for a greater good. Men have always said, this is bad for me, but it's good for society. Bonnie just quite correctly, quite pertinently highlighted the fact that she believes in living her life the best way that she wants to live. So she is happy. And I agree with you. That's what you should do. That's fine. You're a woman. That's how women think. Women don't think I shouldn't do this because I care about society. By and large, women don't think that way. And once you understand that logic, you can extrapolate that out to the fact that women shouldn't be in charge of a country ever, because women are not prepared to take a bullet for a country ever.

I mean, I guess I contradict myself a little bit because I help society out a lot. And I do that because I. Well, do you see how many dicks I drain? How many balls I've been emptied out on my face? How many cream pies I've taken and scooped out?

Like, and how does that help society?

Sex workers help, like, reduce rape rates by over 30%.

That sound like a stat you just made up?

No. Google it.

Yeah, that's probably true. Mental health, it's good for mental health as well.

The truth, actually.

Yeah. Stops men killing themselves. Sex workers. Sex work's an important part of the world.

So imagine like, if you're, Are you.

Saying that because you had a webcam business?

I'm not saying that because I had a webcam business. I'm saying that because it's absolutely not really true. I, I, I'm, I. The only point I was making earlier about women being in charge, I was actually trying to get to a final point. And the final point, I would argue, is that Bonnie has done no damage to society compared to giving the women the vote.

I've basically been a community worker.

Absolutely.

Do you vote not? To be honest, I don't really know what's Going off.

Okay. So do you vote?

No.

Okay. She's perfect. She's out here. She's sucking.

I am wife material.

Sucking dick. She's not voting. This is the kind of women we need. This is done. This is fine. If we stop women, we take the women's vote away. If you said to me, andrew, fix society, all the women can either vote or be like Bonnie. I'm like, make them all like Bonnie. Give the men the vote back. We'll fix all.

Even your daughter.

We'll figure. Yeah, why would she need to vote? I'm voting. Why would she need to vote when I'm voting? You're gonna vote against your father. What? What kind of world is that? You know, it's really interesting to me. Since I had daughters and I have a bunch, people always said, when you get a daughter, you're gonna change your opinions. No, I fucking didn't. When you have a daughter, you know, you see these dudes and they have a daughter and, like, the daughter's putting makeup on and they're like, girl, dad. Just because you have a girl doesn't mean you become gay.

I think that's cute, though. No, but.

No, I'm never gonna put. She's never gonna put makeup on my face. I'm never gonna be like, oh, my daughter wants. So I guess.

You sound like a farmer.

She melts my heart. No, you're gonna obey me because I am your parent and you are my child. My child can't vote against me ever. That's civil war. That's against the rules of. That's against the just working of the universe, sir, for me to have a certain opinion in my own offspring, to have countering opinions. They're not gonna be sitting at some dinner table in 20 years, and my daughter or my sons, anyone, any of them are gonna be there arguing with me about anything. Actually, in school, I learned you better shut the up. Because you're in my house, my mansion. It's to Tate millions. You're living on my money. You're gonna do as I say until they're 18.

Or they move out until.

If they want to completely cut me off and build their own version of life, I guess they could do that, but they won't do that. That's impossible.

It's how you bring them up. Like when they're 18. Yes, but they're an adult. But it's how you've brought them up.

Of course.

Like my parents brought me.

Do you have kids, though?

No, I don't.

No.

But, like, my parents I mean, everyone says my parents can't love me. My family must have disowned me. It's not the case. My family brought me up to be independent and live my best life how I want to live. And as much as people think that is so shameful, that's disgusting. Like, my life's become so much better and I'm happy. As much as people think I should be scarred, could kill myself and everything else, like, I am happy. I genuinely live a much better life. So my family are nothing but proud of me.

Are you really happy?

Really, really happy?

Happy.

And when you're alone, you're happy.

She's not voting. She's great. This is what we need. Do you want to be Prime Minister or not?

Really? No.

See? Done, bro. This is it. This is what we need in society. Honest about their sex work. Because all women out here are sex working anyway. What's the last? You've been in Dubai recently?

Yeah.

Find a woman who ain't sex working. That is a challenge, sir. $1 million to find a woman who ain't living off a man. Because that is sex work. You've given sex and she's giving you money. That's. That's the game. I tweeted.

It's actually so true. I've never thought of it like that.

I tweeted this.

When people are boyfriend and girlfriends, they do a low paid job. They've not got the education to do anything better, so. And they're having sex with the partners. Keep them interested, the partner's paying the bills. It's a sex work with one client. 100.

I said this, I tweeted it, and the whole world lost its mind. Because you know me, I'm a provocateur. But I said, yeah, women are sex workers. You can either have a bunch of customers with only fans, or you can have one customer called a husband or boyfriend. Or you can be ugly and unfortunately then you gotta get a job. But if you're pretty enough, you don't do that. You find a boyfriend or a husband or a sugar daddy, whatever you want to call him, and he's paying your bills. Go to Saint Tropez, Monaco, Cannes, go to Miami, go to Dubai, go to Hong Kong, go to any of these cities and find a beautiful woman and ask her her job. She either doesn't work because her boyfriend takes care of her or she has some bullshit vanity project which loses money that her husband pays for. Owns a flower shop that loses money each month. Great businesswoman, independent bullshit. Women are only ever Been sex workers. Women have only ever translated their pussy into money or into provision or into protection. That's all women have ever done. Let's talk about the ancient days when the ancient whoevers the tribe got conquered by another tribe. You're sitting around, there's a hundred men, there's 100 women. The hundred men go out to war. They lose. The conquering tribe comes and takes over the ground. Takes over the women. What do the women do? Here's some. Don't kill me, please.

It's not 1500.

No, but it doesn't matter. That's what they've all. That's all they've ever done. And I'm telling you now. You know, you watch Hunger Games and there's Katniss Evergreen running around with her bow and arrow. When World War III finally comes, you're just gonna see a whole bunch of women hooking. That's all they're gonna do. They're like World War iii. I need money. I need a man who can protect me. Here's some. Anyone?

Oh, I would have Hitler to survive.

Well, damn. Of course women will anyone to survive. Look at, look at France and World War II. You hear about the war brides. They all had their head shaved. You don't know about this? Oh, you didn't know? I'll tell you. The Nazis kick the out of all the French. Then the Nazi soldiers turn up to Paris. Nazi soldiers have money. Average French man either lost in war, lost a leg and has no money. He's a brokey. The Nazis Nazi guy, he's got money. He's got the German Deutsch mark. He's got a nice uniform. He's a winner. All the French women were the Nazis. They killed their husband. They're the next guy a year later. Why? Because he can provide, he can protect. They give him status. They get to go out and party. They all had their heads shaved afterwards. Once the French. Once the Americans kicked the Germans out.

Of France, I would have been bald straight away.

Well, there you go. This is what women do. Women say, okay, let me look at the world. I'm not as strong as a man. I'm not as determined as a man. I'm not as intelligent. I'm not as intelligent as a man. I can't do any of these things men can do. What's the one differentiator I have? So let me turn my into what I want. That's not a bad thing. That's just. That's just understanding the world, right?

Do you think this is a Positive message for society.

I'm not here giving any messages. I am a commentator, sir.

I say it's funny.

It's factor, sir. I see the comm. I'm not playing football. I'm commentating on the game. That's all I'm doing.

And people are listening to you?

Well, they're listening to me commentate. I'm telling everyone how it works.

Everything we've said you'd learn in history at school, everything we're saying is factual.

What would you learn in history at school about?

I didn't really listen too much at school, but, yeah, I learned at school that people had their head shaved. Like, you learn about what happened at the war and that happened. That's factual. You don't. You didn't ever learn at school or. The women went to war? No, of course they didn't. They stayed at home, they cooked, they had the house ready. Like, it's. It stayed the same. Everything we're saying is factual.

Yeah. Like, Rob, what have I said that's incorrect? And the reason I'm saying all these things is to highlight how it's awfully hypocritical for anybody in modern Western society. Anybody who believes in women's liberation, anyone who believes women should be allowed to vote, anyone who believes in women are allowed to lead a country, anyone who listens to their wife's stupid opinions on anything, to give Bonnie a second of hard time. Because it's all the same thought pattern. It's all the same thought process. If you're a man who says, I have a wife, and we got married when she was a virgin, and she doesn't vote and she obeys me absolutely, and I'm the king of this household, then maybe you could have an opinion. But if you're gonna sit there going, my wife has a past, but I love her anyway, then shut the up. And that's 99% of men, Rob. Do you understand that about three times a week I see a woman I've plowed get married on Instagram. Do you understand? I see it. I see the man walking down the aisle, holding her hand, doing the whole humiliation ritual. I see the whole thing. He got on one knee, and I just watch. And I was like, bro, what the fuck?

I don't think there's anything wrong with that, though.

No, but there is.

But why?

Because I know what happened that night. So it is.

Are you under investigation for things like that?

Give a. But the point is this. If that man's gonna go, everyone has a past. Then. Then who Is he to comment on anything else? Because her past was me, sir.

So, are all of your girlfriends virgins before you?

Well, here's where you have to, as a man, do your best to find a woman if you want to take her seriously, with as little history as possible. If that's the kind of thing that bothers you.

Does it bother you?

But. Well, it depends.

I mean, surely your best place to go then is high school.

Well. Well, we have to be careful. I'm under investigation here. But it depends, because there's different categories of women. Right? Everything in life is actually fine if you keep everything in the right place. If you use a fork for forking and a spoon for spooning, everything's fine. It only gets confusing when you try and mix the two up. All men love whores. Men love whores.

We've got good technique.

Of course. Any man who sits there and says.

Do you love horse?

Well, any man who says he doesn't love whores is a liar.

So you love horse?

Well, if I'm on a boat in Miami, I don't want.

Would you prefer a blow job with your teeth or the mouth? You need someone with experience.

Well, if you. Well, if you. If you want girls who are just a good time, they're not going to be that emotionally invested. They're probably going to be slots. If you're gonna go to a party with 20 women, you want women who are just a good time. Good time. Women are hoes, and men love hoes. But men want the dichotomy because we want our cake and eat it. We want a wife and we want hoes, and we want both. It only gets confusing for a man when he puts them in the wrong category. What will happen is a man will meet a hoe, fall in love with her because he can't control himself, and then try and say, oh, no, she's wifey, because he's in love with her because he's an idiot. But if you're me and you can sit and go, okay, that one's a good one. She's wifey. Those are the hoes. They're this. And you just keep everything in its right place. It's fine.

So Bonnie's a hoe.

I don't want to insult Bonnie Blue.

You can't insult me.

I mean, you called her a hoe when. When I last talked to you.

No, I said she was a whore.

And I said, what's the difference between a hoe and a whore?

Well, there is a big difference because whores get paid and whores are actually a much higher social standing than a hoe because hoes are fucking dumb and they're doing it for free. Yeah, whores make money. So I think she.

She didn't know that difference.

Well, now you do.

Now I do.

I always say people can call me a prostitute, slag, whore, whatever. I don't care. Like, you just can't insult me like I own it. Whatever word you. Whether you.

It's not even insulting. It's just a factual description. Yeah, it's a factual description.

It turns me on.

Yeah, there you go. That's why she's so good at her job.

By the time I. By the time you finish calling me a whore, I'm gonna leave this chair with a wet patch.

There you go. That's why she's so good at her job. I have that effect anyway. But the point I'm making here is any man who sits and goes, oh, I hate. I hate hoes. That's all a lie. There's. There's scenarios in which they're very welcome and very liked, but there's scenarios in which they're not. So everyone has their standing in life. Everyone has their place in life. Bonnie. Even I would argue, maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong. But you can correct me. Bonnie will have sex with one man or have sex with a certain type of man or have sex with whoever, but she'd marry a different type of man. To marry someone is different than having sex with someone. You wouldn't just marry anyone, would you? You'd have to kind of like him.

Yeah, for sure. It'd be completely different. I generally have sex with anyone of legal age, but if I'm thinking of marriage, it's completely different.

Okay, so even in Bonnie's mind, there are people she treats a certain way and respects in a certain way, and there's people she has sex with without any emotional attachment. That's exactly how it is. As a man. There's a woman you'll treat a certain way and have a certain amount of feeling for. And there's women you just. That's. That's it. So everything's actually fine. Men saying they hate and they hate all this. That's all a lie. Men love horrors in the right scenario. So you're asking me my girlfriends? Well, I mean, it depends. If you catch me on a boat. If you catch me on my yacht with 25 women. Are they all virgins? Fuck, no. But do I have children from some virgins? Yes.

If you ever host a virgin Party, Count me in.

How would you get into a virgin party?

Well no, but I'd be there to take the virginity as I'm obsessed with it.

Why are you obsessed with taking boys virginities?

Well just like how Andrew likes 18 year old. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Careful, careful now.

Sorry to go.

You're under investigation.

What I have said, Andrew, 18 is a legal age. I don't know what you class as legal.

No, 18 is legal. You're right. Yeah but the reason actually, and it's interesting you said this, but the reason men prefer younger women is because they have less history. That's why the average 22 year old live less life than the average 30 year old. That's why men prefer younger women in general. But I'm sorry to interrupt you but I'm just, I'm just being, I'm just clarifying because everything gets clip farmed and before you know it, you know, I'm back in hand.

So not 18, 19, but I'd happily take an 18 year old on their birthday like closer to 18. I just want them, you know, to be young, innocent. I wanted to strip them from that. I want to steal their innocence. I want to watch clothes curl up as they come for the first time from a girl. Like I love that and I also think it's educational. So I'm obsessed.

How's it educational?

You think about sex education at school, it's from a middle aged teacher that's not been laid and they basically say you have sex, are you probably going to die from std? There's no information. If anything they should whip up one of my DVDs, put it on screen and show look, that's how the dick enters the pussy. This is how you get a girl wet. There's none of that. So me having sex with them shows this is a woman's body? Yes, a woman's Andrew, not trans and I don't think you're trans and we'll come to that. They don't know how to pleasure a girl. They've not touched a girl. They've just watched videos, you know, online where they slapping these, choking these hair pulling and then they go to do it on a woman or a girl for the first time. She's probably going to cry rape for the next day.

Yeah, you're probably going to get a criminal charge of that. You're probably going to get sued if that happens this time.

Probably talk if I'm experience there. But like with me I love educating them. Like they've never fingered a girl before. They've never.

So you educate your guys when you sleep with them?

Not all the time. Some of them are in their 80s and their wife's dead. Like they wouldn't have sex for years. But some of them are 18 and haven't lost their virginity, they haven't been having sex. So I love lying there and saying, look, do whatever you want to me. Trial and error. And if anything, I'm protecting women because then the next girl they sleep with, they know how to choke properly, they know how to slap, they know how to fuck and they know how to pleasure her. And also I give them such a safe environment. Like, I mean, if you had an 18 year old son, would you send them to me on his 18th birthday?

No.

Okay, so your son will probably lose his virginity after going to a club. He's probably been drinking, the girl might have done drugs. They then go back to some hotel or parents.

I don't think I'm raising him that way.

Okay, but regardless, what about if he.

Falls in love and loses his virginity to someone he loves?

And what if the world becomes a really happy place? You're talking. It's unrealistic when people lose their virginity. It's probably after a night out.

So it's more realistic. I send my son to you. Yeah, he slept with a thousand.

Are you saying, Rob, that your children are going to do what you want? They're independent people, Rob. No, they can do, they can make their own decisions. Don't come out with that crap.

I think my kids are. You don't have kids and I think my kids are older than your kids. So de facto, I think I've got a bit more experience in being a dad because everyone talks about how it is until their kids actually do disobey them, which they do now.

They won't.

Right. Rob, on your son's 18th birthday, I'll be stood on the driveway with a balloon and a happy birthday card. I'll take his virginity, but I'll take him to a safe, controlled environment. I'm not going to cry rape the next day. I'm STD tested. I can educate him on a body so the next girl he sleeps with, because if that's the girl he falls in love with, she's going to want a good shag, she's going to want to be pleasured, she's going to want to walk away from it going, fuck, that was good. Yeah. I want to see him again. I want to stay loyal to him because he was amazing in the bedroom.

Rob, you should do it.

Do you really believe this, Rob?

Do it. Okay.

Would you send your son to Bonnie, age 18. Birthday?

I don't need to. But you need to.

I don't need to.

Yes, you do.

Are you judging me, Andrew?

Yeah, of course.

I'm just saying that, like Andrew, I do father and son as well.

Do you?

Yeah.

No thanks.

But brother and brother.

No way.

Double penetration?

No way.

Well, you need to find out if I'm trans. I think you and your brother double penetration. Then you'll know the truth.

Okay, first things first. You're not trans and I knew you weren't trans.

Is that because you've had multiple wines?

No, it's just 100.

Or is that because you left this at my last event? Oh, you don't want to touch it. I thought you might be thirsty. You want to rinse it for.

Come, Bonnie. Bonnie. I knew you weren't trans, however.

Yeah.

I would argue that a lot of the men who you are gay.

No. It can be intimidating, though, for guys.

No, no, it's not about intimidation. They are gay.

No, they're not.

Yes, they are.

Because their dick is entering a pussy.

There's too much male DNA all around that scenario. The reason I find female promiscuity, by and large, for my personal sexual appetite quite disgusting is because I don't like the thought of other men anywhere near what I'm going to fuck. I'm so not gay that I don't like that there have been men there.

Except if you're on a boat with 25 of them.

Well, if that's. That's. That's horrorland. When you're on a. If you're in horror land, it's horror.

So that's the fork box, not the spoon box.

It's. I guess you could argue that, yes. My point is, if I was going to take a woman seriously, the idea of another man being near her I find repulsive. And I find it repulsive because the idea of the man repulses me, by and large.

Yeah.

Any man who's happy to have sex with that many other men when there's that much other male DNA in the room, I would argue has a streak of homosexuality to some degree. Degree. I would argue that those men are gay. Now you're not trans, but I don't think a straight man wants to a that's had 10 dicks in it or 20 dicks in it or 50 dicks in it.

What about 1057?

Well, I don't know. Maybe these men are just bi or. I don't know, maybe they're desperate. You can argue lots of things, you know.

See, I don't agree, but I do get where you're coming from. Like some of these guys, especially six hours in, they come to me. It's. The floor's like an ice rink. There's that much come on there. My face, I'm barely recognizable. Like, my hair is slick back, my eyes are full of calm. Like my whole body is so slippery from come. And yet they still come. They kiss me, they touch me. And I think, what if they don't want to touch me because I'm covered in another guy's come. And I, when I do, the gang bangs and there's a lot of men together. I have security in that room. A lot of people assume that security is for me. It's not, it's for the other guys because I'm always concerned. Like, if another guy comes and it hits another guy, I don't want a fight to break out. I don't want them to be like, oh, that's gay, don't touch me. So there's always security when I do these events, but it's predominantly for the guys because I'm scared a fight is going to break out because they think it's gay.

And you, and you respect this profession.

I understand the profession. The profession has been around for a very long time. I respect the honesty, actually, what I said. But yeah, I think the men who turn up to these events are gay, by and large. I think they're at least bi because I think that if you're a straight man, you don't really want to be near other kind of men's genitals and time in and of itself. We should resurrect Einstein and get him in this conversation. He'll tell you more about it than me. But, you know, time's all happening at once, they say, and that, you know, it's not linear like we believe. And there's another dimension where everything happens at once. If you see an interstellar. Yes, cool. So if, if you fuck her after she's been fucked, you're fucking at the same time she was is being fucked and the dick is in there with your dick and it's all happening in one big fucking time warp of jizz is that. And it's better if you're just nowhere near it. If you just don't go anywhere.

Getting me really wet.

Well, this is the thing. Well, I'm sure that when I see your next event, time warp of jizz, I expect a cut but so for me, you know, women say this, oh, yeah, but it was before I met you. I don't give a. If it was before you knew my name. You got. And that's disgusting and that offends me. Now, you cheated on me before I met you. That is terrible.

Is that not your insecurity?

Well, that's perfect word. So people call it insecurity. You got onto my point. It's almost like you can read my mind, Rob. People call it insecurity.

They say, she's got one inch, the other guys are gonna have bigger dicks.

Well, people call it insecurity and people call it lots of things. But truthfully, what it is, is heterosexuality. And any of these men who go, oh, yeah, I don't mind her being covered in calm, they need to take a long hard look in the mirror and probably get an AIDS test because they're gay. And that's fine. I mean, some people are gay, but you can be gay. You can have gay sex with a woman. Of course you can. I mean, the point of having sex with a woman is you're pregnant. By and large, I'd argue that being horny in general is kind of gay. To be like, I'm so horny. Like, I'm a full grown man. I'm so horny. I'm so. I'm so horny. Like, who?

Yeah, but to me, gay's another guy.

Is. No, he's doing gay, bruv. Gays. Having sex with a woman without the intention of impregnating her. Having sex with a woman who's covered in calm. All this stuff, all this is just gay sex. It's all gay. Have sex with a woman and have a child.

Well, so you only have sex on ovulation day.

It's not about that. But there has a chance. There has to be a chance of a child arriving.

But what about in your boat with 25 hoes?

Who says I even them? You think, Rob, this is what I mean. You're so. You're so trapped in the matrix. You're so trapped in the matrix.

I think you're judging me, Andrew.

No, you think. You know, I'm not trapped in the.

You know, I'm not trapped in the mat.

You think I'll get 25 horrors on a boat and then be like, yeah, let me. Them. No, I just want 25 horrors on my boat. Because it's like, I want on my boat. I want trees in my forest. Like, they're just there because I've got a boat that is a boat. And there's women on my boat and they're all beautiful and everyone's jealous of me while I sit there. And even though they all annoy me and I don't even want to fuck them, I just sit on my laptop. But that's just life. It's not even about them. It's not about the sex. You're thinking about sex. This is beyond sex. Nothing to do with sex.

Unless you're only having sex in our relation, then you're gay. Because then that is. That's the only way a girl is conceiving, really, is around ovulation.

Well, my point is that if there is a slight chance, and there's always a chance.

Very, very slim, though.

Okay, but if there's a chance.

Okay, you're 50.

If there's a chance of a baby appearing.

Yeah.

Then I would argue that that is pretty heterosexual sex. Because heterosexual sex leads to babies. What is the differentiator between heterosexual and homosexual sex? The primary differentiator between the two is offspring. So if you're having sex that cannot possibly lead to offspring in any way. That is gay sex.

Yeah, but who's.

If you're a girl in the ass, you're gay. Why turn it up? With a condom and a woman on birth control, you're gay. Do you do anything for pleasure?

Do you do anything just for fun?

White man who gets his dick, his balls cut open. I know white boys who voluntarily get vasectomies. They voluntarily have their dick chopped to pieces just to make sure they don't accidentally have a beautiful child. Like, how gay can you be? This is all gay sex. If I have sex, there's a chance of a kid. That's the life I live. That's the man I am. The kid comes as a blessing from God. Good. No kid comes. Fine. That's how it is. But if you were to say to me, andrew, you can come have sex here, and there's no chance of there ever being a kid. It's just for fun.

There's always.

I would say, sorry, I'm not gay.

Condoms aren't 100 reliable. So that day, someone did have a 0.01 chance of impregnating me.

But they're trying to not have a kid.

Well, how do you know? Did you ask him?

Well, if you have a condom on, you're trying not to have a kid.

Who said I didn't put a pin in it?

The man putting the condom on his dick is trying to not have a kid. The realest there would Turn up and say, listen, I'm impregnating Bonnie Blue. You all keep the condoms on it. I'm having a baby out this because I ain't for free. So let me get a kid at least. I mean, you got money to look after. He can just block you on WhatsApp. You can raise it. That's free. That's free progeny. These people ain't thinking right.

Do you do anything just for fun?

Loads of stuff.

Like what?

But I don't think. Running around. I mean, maybe when I was younger, but I'm an old man now. I'm. I'm old. I'm 38. I really have no interest in Deadpuss. You know when girls sit and say, I'm on birth control? Disgusting. There's nothing more disgusting than a. On birth control.

Yeah, but I think it's dead if women get pregnant and they can't afford to look after that kid or they end up in a council house on benefits. And yet that kid.

Oh, no, no, this is good, Bonnie.

Well, that's good.

No, no, let me. Let me explain.

We're gonna run out of beans.

No, let me explain. This is a great thing. Feminism's led us here and we voted to let in all these migrants, and all these migrants turn up and rape the state. Look, I've got hundreds of millions of dollars, yeah? If I got a woman pregnant, she annoyed me. I'd say, yeah, call the council. You. Let's just rape the state like everyone else does. I'm brown enough, I'm black enough. I can do it. Put her in Marsh Farm, Luton, where I'm from. Be fine.

You wouldn't do that.

Who gives a. You wouldn't do. She better text me. Respectfully, she can be rich. If she texts me beef, I'll be like, call the council. Get council. Let's have kids. Let's just all live off the government. This is feminism. Let's. Because you don't. You don't live off the government. If you have a husband, they don't want husbands and they don't want husbands. Women want to get married, but they don't want husbands. They want to get married. Like Sex in the City style, you know, like you A million men. Then you get married to some really rich guy who lets you do whatever you want. Then you have an affair with the gardener, and then you spend all his money, and then somehow you're still the victim. That's the kind of marriage they want.

That's dream.

That's right. They don't actually Want to be wives because wives are obedient and wives are quiet. And wives listen. All women say this, I want to marry you. I want to marry you. Wait till you're in an argument with them and read their messages and go, this is why I will never marry you. This is why I will never marry you. I read their messages and they don't realize that they've ruined their chance forever. I cannot marry you because of how you talk. A wife doesn't do this. I told you to be quiet three times.

What you can do is go and get on that naughty corner. That's right, that naughty side.

Women don't want to be wives. They want to just get married. Which means that the whole familiar structure is broken. Once the family structure is broken, who has to take the place? Government. Think about this. In Romania, we have no mental health care. Why are there no mental. People are out in the streets. Family. We have no forced child support. Why are women not starving to death? Family. We have no disability care. Why are people not sitting on the streets with no legs? Family. Family does so much work in the West. We have no family. So the government has to come along and offer mental health care, disability care, forced child support. The government has to do it because of feminism. So what I'm saying is, if women don't want to get married to men anymore and they all want to listen to the fucking government, then the government can raise the motherfucking kids. Fine, Rob. You put four women in front of me, all different flavors. You give me Indian, Chinese, black, white, whatever, and you say, have you fuck them all and have a kid out of all of them, and they'll all be raised on council estates around England. I'd say, no problem. Why not? Why the. Not. If they're real, they'll survive.

If you don't feel guilty, that's your. That's half your. That's your child.

Why would I feel guilty?

Because that's your child. It's your DNA.

Of course. And if the woman's nice to me and says, andrew, I'm tired of living in Runcorn, can I come live in Dubai in a mansion, I'll say, of course, my dear. But then if she annoys me, if she's like, oh, I'm here in Dubai and you left me by myself, and you're with all these other women who are all these on your boat? Go back to Runcorn.

Take the kid offer.

I'm not gonna take the kid off her.

She can keep the kid, but it's your DNA.

Yeah, of course. And my DNA is survivor DNA.

Well.

At least five of them will be real. I don't need the further 45. Look, it's survival of the fittest out here. This is how it works. This is, this is my. This is how my brain works. But you're saying, I don't know why we're gonna sit here and create the logic fail of pretending it is wrong for a government to raise the children when that was a man's job. When men have had all of their authority removed, you want us to have the responsibility of a woman, the responsibility of a family, the responsibility of children, the responsibilities with none of the authority. You can't tell a woman what to do. You can't tell her to be quiet. You can't tell your kids off. You can't tell her not to suck dick. You can't tell her not to go out with her friends. If you do any of that, it's emotionally coercive behavior. That's a criminal, criminal charge in England. If you tell your own wife not to go to the pub and you're the criminal.

Oh, you're so controller. That's right, let me do stuff.

But. But I'm still responsible, no? Looks like the government has more power than me. So if you want to play this game and take all of my authority away as a man, you want to reduce me to nothing more than a tax slave, well then I'm going to play your game back at you. I have no authority, so I have no responsibility. I will look after children and I will look after the women who give me absolute authority over their lives, who say, yes, sir, anything you say, sir. I trust what you believe in the world. I trust you're guiding us. I trust you to take care of us. Yes, sir. Those women are driving Bentleys currently living in mansions, currently. And the women who say, I don't want to listen to you, I want to do what I want, are currently in council houses and I have kids with all of them and I don't give a fuck because this is my masculine imperative to impregnate. And when I die, no matter what you think of me, no matter what anyone thinks of me, no matter what anyone watches, this has a bad probably whatever. I get to die with 100 children. I win. I had a hundred kids. I was one of the most famous men on the planet, made hundreds of millions of dollars, spent a little time in jail, whatever, I win. Great life, Genghis Khan. There's men out there who go, oh, no, do you know, I've got my two kids. That's enough. That's your choice. To me, it sounds like failure, perma failure. And the only reason they're doing that is because their women wouldn't give them more. Or they're afraid to have kids with another woman in case their woman finds out.

A lot of guys, they're like, I speak to, the wife wants another kid, but they don't want it because they know they'd have to work longer hours. They know they'd have to do more work. Yeah, the wife wants another kid because she's like, fucking hell, what's going to happen in a few moms, I'm going to have to go back to work. I don't want to go back to work. Hey, I'm going to pop out another kid. So a lot of the time I think the women do want more kids and the dads don't, but it's because of the pressure. They know that that additional kid is going to make in terms of income.

They're gay.

Bonnie, do you think Andrew Tate is guilty of the charges against him?

I don't know. What's the saying? Innocent until proven. No. Yeah, Innocent until proven guilty. Are you a really pissed?

What do you really think? What do you think?

No, I think, why would he? He gets pussy easy enough. Why go and cause drama for yourself?

Bonnie is the most based person. You know that. You're probably one of the smartest women I've spoken to.

I'm quite smart to say I'm a slut. I have a brain and I am smart only in what I do. For example, like if you ask me about sex work, media or marketing, I've got an answer. You asked me about all this shit. I don't know. I don't even know where I thought was on an island right now. We're not. But I think, why would someone like Andrew go and rape someone he can get as like, unlimited pussy? Why cause a headache for yourself? Why go and pay a lawyer? Why give more money to the government? He could just join my queue. I've seen him there multiple times.

Oh, wait, I was with you till then. Bonnie's based. Bonnie understands the world very well. I think that's why we kind of understand each other. She understands the world very well. Of course I haven't raped anyone. What I did was not buy girls handbags. Who wanted handbags? And then they did what women do, which is cry rape.

They want attention and they want money.

Of course they want attention and money. Everyone with a Brain knows they want attention and money.

Did they cry rape or was it the system that came for you first?

Well, this is the thing. When the system starts calling every single woman and promises them money and you've slept with a bunch of them, they only need to find one or two out of the thousand and then there you go. And then they can make criminal charges on you, which is what they did to me. They call a thousand women, they find a couple who want money or fame and they get them to make lies up about you so the government can attack you. This is my point, by and large. This is why if anyone's confused about my opinions on anything, I want you to understand men now. We are such second class citizens, we have no authority, we have no autonomy, we have nothing left inside of us because we have no capability to even defend ourselves against heinous allegations which are raised in retrospect of action. We're expected to pay all the taxes, we're expected to build the roads, we're expected to go to work every day, we're expected to die in a ditch. If the country needs defending, we're expected to stay on the boat. When the boat is sinking, we're expected to do all of these things. But it turns out the government and women can wreck us. By and large, we are nothing but slaves and serfs to the matriarchy now. And because we live in this matriarchal system where men are absolutely abused, nobody gives a shit about our mental health, nobody gives a shit about our physical health. All we talk about is breast cancer. That's one of the. That's not Even the top 10 cancers, I believe. I think prostate cancer is 10 times the amount. Nobody gives a fuck if men die. Nobody gives a fuck. We kill ourselves, nobody cares. We do worse in school, nobody cares. Most of us go to jail, they don't care about any of it. So we are slaves. So what I do as a slave is say, well, if I'm a slave here in this system, then I don't see why I need to be responsible enough to worry about paying for this kid. For example, if you're going to treat me like a fucking bitch and the government's going to come along like Big Daddy is going to poison my woman's mind so she doesn't listen to me, is going to rape me in a divorce court, is going to throw me in jail based on false allegations, then how about you pay for the fucking children? Fuck you. That's my view.

What do you think about that? Do you think like, men are the lowest in society now.

I think men, if they speak out, they literally don't have a word against women. Nowadays, especially if you. With rape. There is a lot of men that get away with it, and that's terrible. But there's a lot of girls that just haven't got the right way. And the next day they cry rape. And I'm not saying that's all women. Rape does happen. It happens regardless. But, like, having. Blaming Andrew for that. It's just girls that want attention. Those girls conform. Like, oh, my God, I'm the girl that Andrew Tate raped. Their Instagram will shoot through the roof. They'll get paid. They'll probably get some sort of clothing brand deal because it's. Oh, my God, it's women empowerment. Look, you spoke out against someone that's, you know, so hated, they'll be credited. Even though their stories are fake, they're the ones that will get praised 100%.

Bonnie is.

You blame feminism on it.

Well, I blame a society in which women have been told that they can do and have anything they want all of the time. And we live in this unrealistic subsect of events. The world we now live in is completely unrealistic on basically everything.

That's how Bonnie is living, isn't it?

Well, no, I think Bonnie is actually taking.

I'm not crying rape.

I'm not crying rape.

People are taking advantage of me. I'm there saying, look, I'm a slut, I'm a whore. My holes are open. Come do it. But then when women say I'm taking them back, I'll give you the stats that I'm actually reducing rape.

But, Rob, this is important because Bonnie is the only person who is honest. Saying, I'm a fuck me and I'll make money from it is far more honest than saying, oh, I love you so much. I'll be your girlfriend. Oh, can you buy me this handbag? Oh, you won't buy me the handbag? Rape or, I love you so much, let's get married. Oh, I'm unhappy in this marriage. Give me half your stuff. She's the most honest woman of all. This is exactly what men should be hoping for, to meet a woman this honest. So most women, no, because most women.

I'm not going to hide my past. I'm not going to say, you know what? I'm really innocent. You know, I'll say, you know What? Yeah, fucked 1057 men. Yes. I want to get to a body goal of 10,000, but I am Honest, I'm not hiding it. My phone hasn't got a password. I am just so open and transparent.

You want to get to a body count of 10,000 men?

Yeah.

Would you rather meet Bonnie, who tells you all of this, or a woman who goes, oh, really? No, I haven't really done much. When she's done everything and she's been a total fucking whore and she's lying to you, and then you marry her, believing she's a good girl, and then she takes you to the divorce court and completely wrecks you. You know what men say? Oh, my woman's not a gold digger. Go to divorce court. Don't talk about gold diggers. Go to divorce court. And you will soon learn that every single female on the planet wants your money. All. I've never seen anybody go to divorce court and say, she's not after my money. Funnily enough, she just wants to get a divorce. No. Every single time women take house, they want to take everything. They're all gold diggers. So it's actually very interesting. I respect Bonnie because you know exactly what you're getting. If you show me a scorpion and I know you're a scorpion, fine. Don't put a scorpion in a bunny suit with me.

You get good technique and money.

You get. It's honest. I respect the honesty of it. And people are going to sit here and they're people who do it. They're going to sit here and go, well, Bonnie Blue does is disgusting. Ain't that right, babe? Ain't that right, babe? And they'll hold Babe's hand knowing that babe's worse. Babe's a skank. They met her in a pub. 3. Three Jagermeisters in. She's prepared to. That guy, whoever he is, who's a nobody. You're watching this at home. All you guys watching this at home, and you think your wife really loves you. Do you think I couldn't take your. Of course I could. I think she chose you because she ain't met me, bruv. That's it. So, like you're pretending your wife's any better. It's. I love Bonnie's honesty. And she knows I'm going to bring her to court. You're my lawyer. I'm adding to the legal thing. This bitch is lying. She wanted money. That's it. So as a man now, you talk about the different forks and spoons and stuff. Let's talk about this. If I have a woman who I take care of and she's wifey and whatever Whatever, she's wifey. In a certain scenario that's fine. But if I'm going to put 25 girls on a boat, don't I want girls who are honest, who are open, who know why they're there? They're there because I'm rich and I haven't there because they're hot and we all know why everyone's there. I'm less likely to get trouble with those kind of women than the women who go, oh, I'm so innocent, I'm so sweet.

Andrea took me on a boat and this, this and this happened. Whereas like you take me on a boat, guaranteed, no, you know, I'm. Your lawyers aren't getting involved. I'll say if anything I put it on you. That's more realistic.

What advice would you give to Bonnie now? She's starting to get cancelled like you've been.

Well, I'm sure she's smart enough to understand there's have to find a way to monetize and become independent outside of the matrix like I did. You have to find some clever ways to do it and it's very doable. I think Bonnie's going to continue to get paid using what she knows how to do to become financially successful, which is a fantastic thing to do. Why not? No point doing it for free. I think Bonnie's smart enough to work it all out and I don't think she gives a shit what they say negative about her because there's no such thing as bad press. I mean I'm probably the most negatively spoke about guy on the planet.

Does that bother you?

I don't give a fuck. And I just really my only thing for Bonnie. And I'm actually going to ask you a question. I really hope Bonnie.

Yeah.

That you stay true to the end. I hope you're real g about this.

I don't.

I don't want you to start busting out a cross and talking about God in about five years.

I mean, I might say inside of me, but there's no way you're going to see me at church and I just forgot.

No, I don't want, I don't want any of that I'm reformed bullshit. I don't want any of that crap and saying my past doesn't matter because I've been born again. Please don't do that. I want you until the end in the old people's home. I want, you know, petting zoo with 85 year old pettings. I want you to do it to the end and stay real about your. Your choices.

100.

All right, well, then she's the real G. Then she made her decision. Live by the sword, die by the sword, live by the code. Street life. It is what it is. Like me, I could have out by now when they put me in jail, I could have started saying, yeah, women should vote. No, they shouldn't. So you put me in jail that I stick to what I mean. She's gonna stick to what she means and what she says and what she wants to do. She's not gonna start busting out and trying to use religion as a. As a shield. Because that's what most of these only fans girls do.

Yeah.

And there's always some white boy especially no motivation left.

They don't know what to do. They're like, okay, what can I do now? Oh, okay, my. Of dropping on my fancy accounts. Dropping. I know. Let's just say I've found God. They've got no motivational drive in life. They have to be given a purpose. You have to be given a reason to live. It's either.

Oh, well, they don't want to take responsibility for what they did.

Yeah.

What they want to do is they want to erase their past. So they want to get, you know, these onlyfans girls, they say, oh, I'm traditional now, and God. And they wave across the round. And then some little white boy who goes to church all the time who's never had pussy in in it. His life is like, she's reformed, bro. Pathetic. But the women get away with it. So as long as they get away with it, you can't blame the thief for stealing. You gotta blame the guy who didn't lock his gold up. Truthfully, these women get away with this scam and men want to fall for it, then it's up to them. So what he's doing is a scam? No. No. I just don't want Bonnie to ever, you know, change up the game. Stick to what?

You know, one rule for one and one rule for another.

No, but I find this interesting because most people are too stupid to understand these false dichotomies we live under. And let's take Diddy for example. Right? I'm not defending Diddy. What he did was probably wrong. I don't know. I haven't followed the case. I don't know the ins and outs. I don't know what the fuck did he did. The guy, he. He was anti Trump. He hated me. Me and Diddy don't even like each other. The only time we interacted on Twitter was beef. So I'm not defending the guy. What I'm saying is that black culture in America, the music, the culture, all it is is sexualizing women and whores, getting as much money as possible, being a gangster, waving guns around, loads of women. That's the culture that sounds like you. Careful. So if that's the culture that the black society is going to promote, if that's what the music is going to push, if that's what's seen as the end goal of success in the black community, becoming a rapper, becoming famous, having a bunch of whores, a bunch of whores, being being feared, having guns, being a gangster, being a criminal. If all of this is what they're pushing and they're saying this is the end goal of success, and then someone gets there and does it. And then we say, ah, he was threatening women and he was waving a gun around. He was fucking loads of women. So what I'm saying is it's very hypocritical, this society we live in now where we push people in a certain direction and then as soon as they end up exactly where they're headed, we have a go at them for it and pretend they shouldn't be there. It is absolutely false to declare that women are not being sexualized. Women are told to be promiscuous now. Women are told to be sexual now. So when a woman ends up promiscuous and sexually liberated, who are we to sit and say, I can't believe this has happened. It's completely asinine. It's a double standard. It's a false dichotomy. And it's amazing to me that we live in this world. If you're going to have black rap music push people to be in big mansions with a bunch of whores, fucking them, taking drugs and waving guns around, don't be surprised when black people do it and don't be surprised when women end up as whores. And we're telling women to be whores. If you want women to do something else and tell them to do something else, I don't want know why we're surprised by it. The thing that's unsettling in all of this is still the role of the average man who's expected to get far less in terms of loyalty and quality and standard from a woman than he's ever had and pay a far higher price. Our grandfather's got a woman. He didn't have to be rich. He didn't have to even be famous. He didn't have to be Successful. He just had to be a man and do the most basic things. And she loved him and he loved her and they had a happy relationship. Our grandfather's got a woman for fuck all. Now, to get a woman who cares about you, you need to be one of the most famous, rich, well known driver Lambo this xyz. The average man's fucking wrecked. And the role of men in all of this is completely forgotten. Because nobody gives a shit about men. We're hyper sexualizing women. And let's be honest, Bonnie is smart enough to monetize her own content. But most women who are promiscuous are not smart enough to monetize.

Isn't Bonnie part of the problem then?

Bonnie is a symptom of society. I don't want to say of the disease of society. I could, but she's a symptom. She's the end result of the society we have built. Which is why it is hypocrisy you think is degrading.

I'm living the best I can in the world that's already been built. I don't give a shit about changing the world. The world changing the opportunity to do what I do and monetize from it. I'm gonna do that.

You said you thought you were a.

Positive role model, Rob.

But I am positive. Because you think of the day I fucked a thousand men. If you was a rapist, would you go and find someone else? No, I've shared my location. Come and me like, I'm reducing rape rates. Have sex workers that are available and guys want to have sex, they want to breed, they want to fck. And if they can't find a girlfriend or they can't afford to pay for one because prostitutes nowadays can be expensive, I'm saying, hey, I'm doing it for free. Just come fuck me, take it out on me. Because I consent to that. So I'm not promoting. People say I promote rape culture and stuff. I'm not. I'm saying, hey, I enjoy it. I get wet, I get turned on, I wank over my videos. Come and fuck me. Safe yourself. Paying a lawyer. Like, I'm actually doing people work. Bet that day if you was a rapist. Not that I'm obviously promoting it, but it's like, okay, well actually I'll just go and put Bonnie, she's there. It's easy work. She's already shared a location.

What she just said to you, does that shock you?

None of this shocked me, no.

But do you find it, Would you disagree with it? What she's doing. Would you. When you hear what she's talking about, do you sit and think, you shouldn't be doing that because what, and I'm trying to lead you down a trap here? Of course you are.

You always do.

No.

Okay, well, no, let me answer then.

Sure.

I'm quite neutral on it.

Okay.

Because I think that. I imagine for some men it is useful.

Yeah.

The service you provide. I imagine other men get probably a bit fucked up by it and it.

Do you believe Bonnie has the right to make the choices she's making?

I believe you do. She does. I do. We all do.

Then it's impossible to have any kind of problem with it.

Surely I think you can have an opinion.

You just tried to cul de sac me there, didn't you?

No. The point I'm making is the same people who are going to sit and say what Bonnie's doing is wrong, she shouldn't be allowed to do it are also the same people who say women should be allowed to vote. It's one or the other. Either women have. Either women do not have the ability to make their own decisions or they do.

See, if I cared enough about what was going off or think I could change it by voting.

But you can't.

So, yeah, I don't bother. I don't bother looking in the news or anything like that. And also why you're confusing me because.

You say you don't give a. About anything on the world and it's just about you, but then you're trying to promote that. You're, you know, you're a great role.

Model for mental health. And I care about draining their balls and having fun and having orgasms. The only time I talk about the rape race is when women are crying, saying, I'm increasing it. So if you want to start crying and making tiktoks and making false allegations, I'll slap you in the face with the facts. The facts are 30, 32% is decreased because of sex workers.

Women can't change the world, Rob. Let's look at this. Let's take this away from Bonnie for a second.

But haven't you said that feminism is just like taken over?

Feminism was given to women by men. Men are the only ones who project force. Rob. Feminism is a male movement. Do you think if women march around in the street outside, anybody gives a. The only reason they get away with it is because men stand around them with guns. Men enforce feminism. Men project force. If women really want to fight the patriarchy and they don't trust Me. The reason they say they want to fight the patriarchy is because the patriarchy doesn't fight back. If it became a real fight, patriarchy versus women, it would last 10 seconds.

Yeah.

And when the riot horses start storming in with the battens, women would very quickly get back in the kitchen. So there's no such thing as female power. It's given to them by men and it's given to them by subsects of men who are actually trying to damage masculinity. It's very interesting. Imagine it this way. Every single man out there is fucked, and every single man out there has a past. So every single man out there can have all of his exes contacted and find the Jezebels who want money and can be attacked. So why does it only happen to some men? Well, women are the conduit for attack. And the different groups of men decide to use women as a conduit to attack their enemies. Feminism is a group of men using women against other men. That's all it is. Women are the tools and women are the symptoms. Women can't change society. Bonnie can't change anything. She's a symptom of the society she grew up in because she can't.

She thinks she can change men's mental health.

No, she's saying she can help with men's mental health, but she can't change society. Women, by and large, can't do anything. Women can march all day, every day. Nobody gives a.

You saw women marching there. Now I'd look and think, oh, now what they're doing chipped a nail. If I saw a man, that's called a revolution. God, what's going. Something's going wrong. Something's happening because men can be violent.

So she is a symptom of society. And what I'm saying is, unless you're prepared to stand up and say the entire society needs rewiring, women shouldn't be allowed to vote anymore. Women should not be having sex outside of wedlock. Unless you're going to start saying all of these things, you shouldn't have an opinion on Bonnie. Your opinion on Bonnie should be. She is the end result of the society we have built and promoted. She is acting how society has told her to act, to get as far ahead as possible. She is being extremely successful financially. She's notorious. She's sitting with one of the most famous men on the fucking planet. She's done a fantastic job for herself, built on the parameters that we've given her to live within. Here's the rules of the game. She's played the game the best. If you're unhappy with what she's doing, change the rules of the game. But when men sit here and go, no, women should vote. And, yeah, I listen to my wife and I listen to her opinions, and me and my wife are best friends, and I love what women think, but Bonnie shouldn't do that. That's hypocritical and stupid. That's dumb. All women, to some degree, are sex work. And the reason I respect what Bonnie's doing is because Bonnie's making her own money with her own brains and being very honest and open about what she's doing. I respect what Bonnie's doing far more than the girls who have attacked me for rape charges who got with me, asked for money. I said no, and then tried to put me in jail for it. That's sex work, but it's just criminal. It's just disingenuous. I respect Bonnie a lot more than the woman who goes out there and gets married to a man she barely loves and divorces him two years later and takes half of his estate. I respect Bonnie a lot more than the women who are out in Dubai dating five or six, seven different men, just getting handbags and rent and all of this stuff and pretending to be an angel and putting boss chick work in real estate on her Instagram. All these women are doing the same. But Bonnie's open about it. Bonnie's honest about it. If you want to be with Bonnie and Bonnie, you were married. If I. I believe or you had. Okay, yeah. If you want to be with Bonnie, you know what you're getting. That's your decision. That's your prerogative. That's honest. That's great. Most of these men out here are married to women just the same as Bonnie. They don't even know it. And if you told them, they deny it. If I open my Instagram now and see one of my exes getting married and I message her husband right now on Instagram saying she's a hoe. Xyz, he'll defend her. No, she ain't. You're a rapist. A. So most of these women. I are the same anyway. I absolutely love people. You know what I love? Rob. Rob. Karmic retribution. I love. You know when you see a man play with fire, then he gets burnt, and you're like, ah, shouldn't be playing with fire. I love it. We said women, let them do whatever they want. I was sitting there years ago saying, no, guys, no. We need to have children. I tried my best. They tried to put me in jail. Did women try and put me in jail? Well, yes, but who really tried to put me in jail? Men. Men tried to put me in jail. Male judge, male police officers dragging me in and out the cell. Men locking me in the room. Men. Men defending these women who lie. Men want me in jail for trying to protect society. This is the world they wanted. I hope we have more Bonnie Blues. I hope everyone. I hope every woman just fucks everything. And I hope all of society burns. I've given up. This is what they wanted. So let's give them what they wanted. Do it.

How would God judge Bonnie Blue?

Well, if God existed, Arguing about God.

And whether he exists or not is a completely different topic. But, I mean, the holy books have a whole bunch of lessons to be learned. And I would argue that one of the primary objectives of religion, all religions since the dawn of time, has been trying to protect society from female sexuality because female sexuality is unchecked. Unlike male sexuality, female sexuality, if it goes unchecked, results in some degree of chaos. All religions are telling women not to be overly sexual for a reason because they know how society ends. That's why I said earlier, we're in the end times. So how would God judge Bonnie? I don't know. Would he judge her or would he judge the society which created her? I'm not sure. But a society of absolute promiscuity leads to a whole bunch of problems that come later down the line because men lose vested interest in the society with the promiscuity. If there's a kid that exists and I'm sure he's mine, I have a vested interest. But if that woman's promiscuous and I'm not 100 sure that child is mine or not, then I have a less of a vested interest. And yeah, there's DNA tests under certain things, but. But before modern science, there was none of that. The only thing that gave me a vested interest in the child or the woman was the fact that my paternity was secured and it was guaranteed. And it was guaranteed through sexual exclusivity, which is why we've tried very hard to counter promiscuity for so long, because men lose all interest in family, by extension, all interest in society when we do not have guaranteed paternity. But once again, who am I to tell society how to be? Because every single time I do, men try and put me in jail. You know, the enemy of the world are not women or whores. Or. Or the good girls or the bad girls, anything. The enemy of the world are the Simps. It's Simps that did all this. It's Simpia, men who listen to women's opinions who did all of this crap. And here we are. Simps did it. Simpson. The most dangerous men on the fucking planet. Simps are gonna sit there and like what I said earlier. If I message one of the guys who's marrying one of my exes now, he's going to simp over her, tell her how much he loves her and pretend I'm the bad guy. For doing what? Sleeping with his wife when she wanted it. Simps are the enemy of the society. And Simps have built all of this shit.

And a lot of them Simps, I guess, are going to sleep with Bonnie, aren't they?

Well, they're all in love with her. And I don't blame them because they're fucking losers. No disrespect.

Yeah, see, I don't find him as losers because, like, before, I did judge him. Like before, I spent hours and hours chatting to him and stuff. I think that's weird. Or why have they requested that? But you know what I'm saying, Not.

So you used to judge the men you slept with.

Until I actually educated myself on it.

Yeah.

And that's like most things, you judge things until you educate yourself.

And what have you learned about men sleeping with thousands of them?

That a lot of the time it's the women's fault. It's the women's fault is why they're in my queue. If they just sucked them off that day, the balls would have been drained and they wouldn't have come and giving me a facial. The balls wasn't drained, therefore they was in my queue. And a lot of these men, it's not because they don't love their family, don't love their wife and their kids. That's one thing. Having sex is separate.

True.

And also, a lot of these men, it's just sex to them.

True.

They're not asking for an emotional connection. And a lot of them sometimes just feel lonely because the world lets them down in loads of ways. They're made to work, they're made to provide, they're made to look after. The kids still empty the dishes. Like they're made to do so much and they feel lonely. They can't go and say to their wife, you know what? Work was hard today. She'll bite back and say, oh, the kids kept me up. This happened. And they dropped their yogurt on the floor, they've always got something to complain about, whereas I'm not that. I'm not like every other woman. They get to come to me and I'll listen to them and I will cater to their fetish. You know, as long as it was within my boundaries, I will do that for them. So I'm like, I want to do that. I want to help you. I want to make your day a bit better because your wife isn't doing that. So I want to do that so I don't find them weird. Like, before, some of their requests, I'd be thinking, fuck me, why did you think of that? That's a bit weird. Or that's odd. How are you getting off to that? I thought, you know what? I'm not going to judge them. They. I don't know what they're going through to a certain degree. If I can make their day a bit better, I want to do that because I'm a good person.

Would you not say, though, Andrew, that's a weak man. That's going to Bonnie.

I think men take what they can get, and I think that it is the masculine imperative to take what we they can get. Like, once again, I try not to be a hypocrite. I try very hard to be very fair with all of my views. So let me answer myself. If I was walking down the street and a beautiful woman come up to me and said, get me pregnant, no strings attached, I'd be like, all right, safe, I'll take it. Why not? I'll take what you can get. Right? The men who are going to Bonnie perhaps do not have the options I have. But then, like me, if I go to central pay, Monaco, Dubai, the most beautiful women in the world are begging for me all day, every day. When I go to Dubai, all the women that you men are Instagramming try, and she's ignoring you, is chasing me because I've got the money in the status, which is what they want, but then I'm ignoring them because I can't be asked with the rape charge. So it's. It's the circle of life. Do I blame men for taking what they can get? No. If there's a group of men around, there's a whole bunch of jizz. They should be too straight to pull that off. But one on one, if they can handle the time vortex, if they can get, you know, a calculator and work it out, it is what it is. Sex used to result in children. That was the point of sex. And now we have the capability of having sex without children, which is a relatively new experiment. And this also happens with homosexuality, with gay people. Why they keep doing more and more deprived things. Because sex gets boring after a while. It's like drugs, right? You take a little bit and then you need more, and you need more for more excitement all of the time. So where the whole ends, I don't know. Maybe a lot of this is down to porn addictions or those kind of things. I'll be on here and I'll state completely honestly, and I say this before God and before the cameras, I don't watch porn. I haven't watched a porn clip in 20 years. I don't need to watch porn. I can barely get through my roster as it is. I ain't got time to be watching porn. I don't watch porn. I don't jerk off. I don't do any of that. I have too many females to service. I'm already behind. Like, I've got hurry up on this podcast. Like, I got to do. So I don't do any of that stuff. But if you're jerking off the porn all day, every day, perhaps you're always trying to find something new to excite you. That's why I end up looking at midgets and whatever. And then perhaps the depravity is the exciting part of it, like drugs or like anything else. But this is just an end result of having sex without the primary objective of having children. Because that should be the result of sex as children. We've removed that now. So the point of sex is pleasure. But we all know that pleasure gets old and you have to constantly up the game and up the ante. I don't know. Do I blame the men for taking the free when they have no other on the table? Absolutely not. I don't blame them. Do I blame Bonnie for making a whole bunch of money off of it? No. If I was unhappy with that exchange, would my problem be with Bonnie or the men? No. My problem would be with society as a whole. If I believe that was wrong, perhaps I would have been online years ago trying to stop society heading down this direction. But if a whole bunch of men fought against me, turned up and raided my house with guns, and waved MP5s in my face, saying that I'm a bad person for trying to protect society and saying what I believe society should function as, then I'd understand that men want this. So who am I to say otherwise? This is what men and women want. I'm just a fucking Guy, I'm just a dude. This is the western world we've built. We've built a western world where men are just tax slaves and women are the most important things on the planet who can do whatever they fucking want. And they're always permanent victims, slash, always, permanently. Right? And they're girl bosses and we're dumb asses and we just have to build the roads and build the buildings and die in ditches. And this is all a woman's world and it's a matriarchy. So that's the world we live in. Let women do whatever the fuck they want. Cool. And the government can raise the kids. And this is the new society we've built, the new utopia. Fantastic.

Do you think Andrew is a good role model?

It depends which way you're looking at it, but yeah, I. Everything he says, how would you look at it? Well, yeah, I guess. I think he is. I've heard clips before where you spoke about rape and I think, God, I couldn't disagree more. But it's because I've looked at it out of context. Then when I've actually listened to the podcast and it's put in context, I'm like, he is completely right. So there's not many things apart from him saying people are gay I disagree with. Like, I'm like, okay, yeah, that is true. It's factual. A lot of the time. We're not talking opinions, we're talking every. Near enough everything we've spoken about today. When you talk about the past, the future, how it is, it's factual. You look on the news, everything we're saying is true. We're not here just saying, oh, my God, you know, I think this is vile. We're saying it's vile. Here's the stats, here's the statistics to it so you can disagree with it. We're not saying everything we agree with, but we're giving you the facts. You can't cry about that.

Right. How do you think people are going to take you being on this show with Bonnie Blue?

I don't know. I don't really know.

It's actually nice not being the hated, like most hated person in the room for a change.

Well, I'm sure. Yeah. And I, I think I'd be uncomfortable and unfamiliar with not being the most hated person in. But I don't really give a how people take it, to be honest. I think people will understand that, you know, it's entertaining. I think that this conversation's been very interesting. I don't know if people expected Me to, like, have a go at Bonnie or try and tell her what she's doing as well.

I've been called, like, the female version of Andrew Tate for a long time now. And I. I think just because I say women are lazy, they are poorly educated, they're not servicing the guy. And if you're not servicing your guy, he's going to go and cheat. And everyone's like, you basically sound like Andrew Tate. But it's like I'm talking from experience. They're talking from all experience, and I'm saying, hey, these are the facts. I've sat with over a thousand people, and this is my experience.

But, you know, if you want a really intellectual conversation, if you want to really actually analyze society, by and large, this false bullshit of. Of male sexual exclusivity is actually creating most of the problems in the world today. When we say to women that a man should be loyal to only her, that's what's creating all of the divorces, all of the breakups, all of the women who run from man to man to man to man trying to find a loyal one. None of them are ever loyal. So then they end up just chasing the bag and chasing money, ended up being sex workers, which is fine. But all of this comes from this bullshit idea that men have ever, ever been sexually exclusive. Men have never been sexually exclusive. Women were to guarantee paternity men since the dawn of time. Every king, every sultan have had harems. They have had concubines. Every single man who could and did. The men who can't, say they wouldn't and say they don't want it because they can't. It's like a broke man saying he wouldn't drive a Ferrari. No one gives a what you think because you're poor. If you're actually important and you can have a harem, you have a harem. They always have. So now we have this weird society where men are out here trying very hard to compete in the sexual marketplace to become as important and rich and successful and well known as possible because it's so hard to get a woman. When they finally pull that off, women are chasing him because women only want the top 1% of men. And then when a woman gets with him, she tells him, you could only be with me and no one else. And then he's like, okay, well, you've been with a whole bunch of men before me. You're not even a virgin. You don't even listen to me. You don't shut up when I tell you to so why the am I gonna only be with you? I'll be with 10 women just like you. You all have big mouths. So if I'll just be with all of you. And then she's like, oh, my God, he cheated. And then she'll run away and just do the same thing again with another guy. And before you know it, after 20 dicks, she sits there and goes, why am I for free? Let me just get paid out of this. So then she says, all right, she either becomes a sex worker honestly or becomes a sex worker dishonestly via rape charges and rape claims. That's what they do. If you're a woman who makes a rape claim against a man and you have an only fans, you literally use sex to make money and you literally lie to men, pretending to like them, and now you're doing the same thing in a courtroom. The court has become only fans. The court's only fans. Now nothing's different. A woman just gets her and gets her tears or gets her lies and she uses the court system to make money as opposed to using the only fans platform. What's the difference? Difference, I think honest or dishonest sex workers, and all of this comes from the fact that we don't have a society where you say a man at that stature is going to have four or five wives. Get over it. Life would be a lot simpler if we could, if women weren't brainwashed into believing they need a loyal man. A man is loyal to you when he puts up with you, protects you and provides for you. If a man's paying your bills and will stop you getting attacked on the street and puts up with your emotions, that's loyal. Don't worry about where his dick goes. That's loyalty. He's shown you loyalty and he can put his dick wherever he wants. That's actually loyalty.

What do you think about that?

See, I'm very different, though, because I'm the one that does the income, they probably won't be working it with the other way around because women also want things to be different. So, like, I'm not saying I agree with that. Like, I think if I was with a guy, they probably wouldn't work. I'd be the one to be in control and I'll be the one loads of other guys and they'd be loyal to me. Things are different.

Yeah, she'd be bossing it because she has the money. She's doing the protective provision because she's got the cash. But what I'm saying is the happiest women. Let's look. And this is cultural. Like if you go to Russia and you meet a billionaire, you think he has one wife. I mean, he has his wife, of course, and he has his girlfriend and his wife just keeps her eyes closed and doesn't care and he gets to enjoy his girlfriends and his wife gets to drive a G wagon and everyone's happy. It's only in the west where she'll be like, I can't believe he wants to talk to another girl, stupid. And then women end up leaving men they love because he cheated. And then getting cheated on by a man they don't love, it's dumb. And it's just over and over and over again until they end up as slots or old and used to the point where they can't get the quality of man they want. Then they're sitting around 36. I can't find a man who's, I don't like this guy, I don't like this guy. Because the guys you like are with 22 year olds, my dear. And you had a guy who loved you and you it up because you cried over him cheating like an idiot. Women, find a man you love, let him cheat, just tell him to only come home to you and only love you. Let him do what he has to do, don't stress him too much, have some kids, drive a Bentley that fixes society. But of course, if I say that I'm a misogynist, I'm the worst man in the world, I deserve.

He said to that girl, go and work, go and earn your own money, go and do this. They don't want to do that either. So you've got to pick and choose.

Like when you tell women to go earn their own money, one way or another, it ends up being sex work. You tell me these female. You don't see these female estate agents, whatever, in their little girl suit and their makeup and all pretty. Have you ever seen like one of these successful girl boss estate agents who's obese?

I'm asking an obese female estate agent. No.

Have you seen obese women achieve anything financially? Or are there? Because if you say no, then you're saying the women are judged on how they look. So all version of female work is sex work. That's the question. Can women do anything without being judged on the one thing they have, which is their sexuality?

I think women think you could be an obese comedian and make money.

Women.

Yeah, but then you'd be making jokes about the fact you're fat.

Yeah, and women let's be honest, women aren't funny.

Aren't funny, did you say, I think.

I've made you smile a few times?

Yeah, you've made me smile because I've been impressed by your intuition. I've been impressed by how correctly you see society. But I think, by and large, female comedians aren't really funny because humor is a masculine mating tactic. We have to make women laugh for them to like us. Whereas women don't have to make us laugh, they have to be hot. Men fall in love with what they see. Women fall in love with what they hear. Yeah, which is why women wear makeup. So we see something we like. And that's why men lie. So they hear something they like. Men lie. Every man on a date is a gangster. And he's rich. You go, any girl going to date with any guy, Women watching this, I know you've been on a date with some guy recently. He's got a few tattoos, he's got a sleeve, and he's a gangster, he's a criminal, and he's got all this money and he's a jackass. He's got like six grand in the bank and a rented car on finance, but he's just lying. He's trying to pretend he's the G and you know you're gonna fall for it. You're gonna suck his dick, and then you're not even gonna get paid out of the end of it. And then you're gonna realize he's a loser and you go get another boyfriend. So you were just sex working for free like a idiot. You just got tricked. You can't trick Bonnie. Bonnie gets paid. You can't trick Bonnie. Bonnie gets her money at the end. You're dumbass. You're suck a dick for free like a fucking retard. So this is the world we live in now. So women are always judged on how they look, no matter what they do. Because the true biology, men are trying to find attractive women who can give them children. Which is why we're attracted to women who are younger, because they're more likely to get pregnant. That's why attraction in and of itself. What is attraction? Attraction is health. When you look at a woman who looks healthy or has good genetics because she'll give you strong offspring. That's what attraction even is. So women are always going to use their attraction. Once a woman's obese and ugly, then she starts walking down the street screaming about fucking a bunch of garbage because she knows she can't compete in the true market. Of sexual dynamics, which is men have power and women have attraction. That's how it works. So I just think it's completely hypocritical for us as a western society. I think it's absolutely insane to have any kind of opinions on sex work or Bonnie or anything el else when women are using their sex non stop all the time. How is having an Instagram page and being an influencer and doing TikTok dances with massive silicone tits and doing this, then getting millions of views and unlimited money for dancing around with a dance? It's not even good. Not sex work. How is that not sex work? How is Instagram not sex work?

You're uploading your best photos. You want people to find you attractive.

You're filtering. Instagram is a dating app. Women shouldn't be. If you're onto Instagram, you're looking for male attention. You're uploading your best pictures with filters. You got your tits out in every photo. You're shaking your ass in every photo. All these Instagram reels, all of Tick tock, all of this. Look at any of the feet, the famous women. How is all of it not sex work? You're advertising sex or you're making people want to you for attention or money. It's all sex work. So we as a society say, yeah, an 18 year old girl can get massive silicones and dance around on Tick tock and, and get millions and millions of viewers. But she's an influencer. No, she is a sex object. Yeah, that's all she is.

They're the ones that walk down the street. That's what pisses me off. They walk down the street and then they cry that a guy's wolfratom. They cry that a guy's looked at their tits, that your tits are hanging out. I actually don't wear a vegan clothing and such. I stay covered up. I don't feel like the need to show my tits. People can just see it, you know, in person for free when I want to get naked. But I don't walk around looking like a slut like most these other people do. Yeah, I am a slut. But they walk around crying about the fact people call themselves and it's like, look at you. Same in the gym, in the mirror.

Same in the gym. They wear those tight gym clothes and complain that people are looking at their.

Video themselves bending over again. Oh my God, look at that guy.

So it's anti sex work. So they do sex work and then complain they're being seen as sexual objects.

Yeah.

You understand what I'm saying, Rob? You know what I'm saying is true. I understand you don't want to go to jail, so you have to be careful how you reply. I understand.

I'm just doing my job here.

You're just a commentator, Andrew.

If you go to jail, I'll identify as a guy. A guy. So we can go in together.

All right. Thank you.

Top and tail. I mean, you can be in me if you want. I just thought, bonnie, we're friends.

You're my only female benefits. No. No benefits. You know, I've never had a female friend in my life. I really don't have any female friends. I don't have a single female friend because I don't really talk to women.

Unless I don't really like women.

I don't really. I don't. I don't. They don't really have much I want to hear to say.

So when women talk, a lot of the time I'm there just smiling, thinking you're so irrelevant. And the nice way possible, the things you're saying, they aren't funny. I think I am funny. But, like, when they speak, I'm like, you're really not funny. I'm having to laugh at this joke to be polite. I'm having to pretend you're interesting out of politeness. I don't have to pretend your stresses at work are relevant, but they're not. You just work for someone else that works for someone else. Like, when I listen to other women talk, I'm like, you're boring me. It's not entertaining. I can't listen to your issues because they're not issues. They're just, I don't know, just pathetic excuses.

So, Rob, let me ask you a question. Sir, we have to make a decision. We are headed down the road we are traveling. Do we do an absolute 1ae reversal of society and go back to traditional men in charge? Patriarchal society where women have to obey their fathers and obey their future husbands, where they have to get married young, have children? Or do we continue down the path where every single woman decides to make as much money as possible using her sexuality like Bonnie does? These are the two options. They're the only options that exist. There is no in between. There is no smart answer. There is no aikido. There is a or B. Rob, do you want to remove the female vote, or do you want your daughters and every other woman you know to end up like Bonnie Blue? Which one?

Well, I think both roads end.

No, don't try and Aikido it, Rob.

But both end the same way. This is what both end up back with patriarchy running society when, what is it weak men create.

Hard times create strong men and strong men create good times and good times create weak men.

And that is the cycle.

Absolutely.

And yeah, society is weak right now. And if you don't have strong leadership, you have government that starts to lead. And when government starts to lead and becomes too bloated and takes from society, in the end, society rebel. Even people who voted hardcore labor and even people in labor will turn on labor soon enough.

I agree with you. Yeah, I think you're right. But I think things are going to get far more interesting before that happens.

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But revolution requires warriors. And that's why men and masculinity is under such constant attack. That's why they're trying to get rid of me. That's why they don't like what I say. Because when you have men who are prepared to stand up for something, we're seen as a threat to the system. That's why masculinity in and of itself is attacked. Because they don't want men who stick up for themselves. Because if you stick up for yourself, you stick up for society. Which is why they use feminism and they weaponize it to destroy the masculine instinct. Because if women have more power than men, and if you can't even have a family and you can't even tell your own wife what to do, why are you going to try and have any vested interest in society? If you have a house and you're the king of that household and your woman obeys you and your children obey you and you're the king of the house, you're not going to give up that street or that town or that city or that country easily, because that's your house, that's your kingdom. If you're going home and your woman doesn't listen to you and she doesn't suck your dick and you're paying all these taxes and your kids ignore you and they just watch YouTube and you're not the man of anything, why are you going to stand up and rebel on the street? You don't give a shit. You've lost all vested interest and protection. Your protective instinct has been neutered. You're a eunuch. That is why feminism is used. This is the point I'm making about certain groups of men using women as a conduit to destroy other groups of men. Women are not the gun. Women are the bullet. Men still hold the guns. Feminism is a bullet that a man has shot. This is what most people don't understand about all of these ideals. And what I'm saying is the society we have built has encouraged women to be as promiscuous, as rebelling, as open, as sexual, and to get as much money as possible. And Bonnie has just played the game the best and won the game. The game is chess. She's a grandmaster at it. You can't complain about the grandmaster. You have to complain about the game of chess. So it's completely asinine for anybody to ever give Bonnie a hard time about anything she's doing, ever, when in fact, she's just the best at the game that's currently being played because 99% of women are trying to do the same thing as her, which is use their pussy to get some money.

And that doesn't bother you hearing that?

No, it's factual. It's the truth. So why could I be offended? If you're offended by something that's factual, then change it. If I was offended by calling a prostitute and slag, then I should change that. But how can I sit there and say I'm ever offended by anyone telling me that? What's the truth?

And Rob and I want to make something clear. I really do try and ground myself in absolute logic in all ways, and that's why I'm extremely hard on myself. I've said to you in previous podcasts that I. What happened to me about jail and all this? It was me. I take absolute responsibility for everything that's ever happened to me. I'm not a person who blames anyone else, considering women just want status and money. Don't think I haven't thunk about the fact about the women who say they love me. I'm not dumb. I love you so much. I love you. I love you. Of Course, I love that you're. I love that you're attractive and you do as I say, and you love that I'm very famous and very rich and I give you a lifestyle. Now you say you'd love me if I didn't give you the lifestyle, but if I didn't give you the lifestyle, how would I even be me? How am I me with no money? How am I me with no status? How am I me with no power? Who am I then? I'm a different person. So I know you're with me because you get things, and I'm with you because I get things. It's transactional. All relationships are transactional. This podcast is a transaction. This is how things work. So I'm not stupid enough to believe the women who say they love me. Even though they say they love me, and even though they mean it when they say it, they're not smart enough to analyze that they are doing a transaction because they don't think of it that way. They just feel love. Oh, I love you so much. Oh, you love me so much. We're just cruising in the Lambo and we're just in. Oh, you're just. All of a sudden, you say you love me. They don't even realize what they're doing. I do. I understand the world very well.

But isn't love a human need?

Love is a transaction.

It's a human need.

Women love who protect and provide for them, whether they're the French soldier or the German soldier. Sir. Women love when they get what they want. That's it.

You need.

So there's no loyalty. Loyalty doesn't exist.

Loyalty, it. What I'm trying to say here. And any man who's been to divorce or had problems with women will agree with me and understand exactly what I'm saying. Women are loyal to how they feel. If you make them feel a certain way, then they're loyal to that feeling which is loyal to you. Women aren't loyal to anything outside of how they feel. Men actually are more loyal than women because men, like I said, can suffer gracefully. Women can't. Men will be loyal to a society. Men will be loyal to a race. Men will be loyal to their friends. Women can't even get along for five minutes amongst themselves. Men will be best friends for 50 years. Men are loyal. We know loyalty completely. We'll go die in a ditch for a flag. You want to talk about loyalty? Men are loyal. Women aren't loyal. Women are. How do I feel today? You could take a woman on a private jet to a mansion in Miami and have the best time. She'll tell you how much she loves you, and then the next day, when she's mad at you, she will literally say verbatim, you never give me any. Anything. You don't take care of me. You reject me. I'm. I'm not looked after. She'll forget 12 hours before where she had the world. Because women are only care about how they feel. They don't even think. They just feel. And what they feel is absolute gospel truth. And it matters more than society, matters more than everything else. Why are the white women of Britain not waking up, saying, our population's being replaced. Our grandfathers died for this island. We need to have as many white children as possible before this becomes a caliphate. Why don't we protect the race of British people who only have this land? And when this land is gone, there's nowhere else to go. We need to find white husbands and have Christian children now. Why? Because they don't feel like it. They don't give a about World War II. They don't give a. Their grandfathers died. They don't give a. About England. They don't give a. About anything because they only care about how they feel. Whereas a man might sit and say, you know what? Yeah, I'm gonna suffer for the greater good of my race, my nation, my ideals. So men are loyal, but women are.

What do you think about that, Bonnie?

I think it really depends. Like, for example, if I was in a relationship, I believe he'd be loyal and I'd be loyal, but like I said.

But you're getting divorced, aren't you?

Yeah, because for a whole separate reason, me and my ex, we grew apart, was together when the age of 14. You change a lot in that time. And most women just stay in that relationship because it's comfortable, it's easy. It'd been easier if I stayed with my partner. It saves the work, it saves the, you know, to a heartache to a certain extent. It saves the having to split your finances. It's easy and lazy for me if I just stayed in that. And most people in relationships, they stay with that person because it's easy and they're in a comfortable situation. Most people don't go, I want to focus on my happiness and leave that relationship, but I do. I focus on myself. I'm happy to admit I am selfish a lot of the time. And for me, staying in that relationship didn't mean happiness, so I left that. Most women would have stayed in that.

So Are men loyal and women not loyal? Do you agree with what Andrew said there?

I was loyal to my partner to a certain degree, but loyal.

When I'm saying loyal, everyone's confusing that with sexually exclusive. See, I'm loyal to my women, but I'm not sexually exclusive to my women. Yeah, and a weak man will confuse the two and go, no loyalty, sexual exclusivity because he's a little bitch. That's nothing to do with loyalty.

I think it depends on your agreement, communication with that person. Some people have a swinger. Some people have open relationships so that, yes, they're having sex with other people, but that's been their agreement. Everything's down to communication. And women aren't open to communicating a lot of the time.

All right, Rob, so which one. Which woman do you have more respect for? A woman.

Here we go. A or B?

Because that's something. No, but life is A and Bs. Life is actually A and Bs. Andrew. No, I'm asking you.

I'll play the game.

Okay, perfect. A woman like Bonnie, who's very honest and very open and uses her promiscuity to financially gain. Or a woman who pretends she loves a man for money who she doesn't really love and intends on divorce raping because there's. There's a thousand times more of them than there are Bonnie Blues. And those are the actual problem. A woman who will falsely accuse a man of rape or falsely accuse a man of hitting her in a divorce court to try and get as much money as possible off a man she barely even loved in the first place and she was only with him for money. Or a woman like Bonnie, who's honest, who do you respect more?

I respect someone who's more honest about their.

Absolutely.

Femininity.

Absolutely. So these women who are just with me and telling me they love me because they want my money. And the women who accuse me of rape when they don't get it. And all of my current girlfriends who say, I love you so much, but they run their mouth to me the second they don't like something and they get upset about something and they show they don't actually respect me, they just want a lifestyle. I. Do you think I respect them more than I respect one like Bonnie who's honest.

Do you think maybe you're just attracting that kind of woman because.

Well, because I'm super successful and super rich, probably.

That's what women chase.

But that's what women chase, and that's what the most.

All women chase.

Well, Rob, a lot the people that are broke sit and complain. The fact they're broke. So just because they don't have it, they want it.

Rob, let's reverse this. You're saying I attract a certain type of woman who loves money, Right?

I think we all attract a certain type of person based on who we are.

Okay, well. Well, you nailed it. So, based on who you are, depends on what you chase in the world, wouldn't the most attractive women on the planet want money? Let me ask you. This is a thought experiment. If you're a beautiful woman, and you know you're beautiful, you're in the top tier of beauty on the planet, you're the top 0.1% of women on the planet in terms of pure looks, are you going to use that to make money or are you going to go with a broke? You're going to use that to make money because you have a usp?

Well, society proves it, I think.

Absolutely. So if I want the most beautiful women on the planet, those women want money. So here we are.

So you just get rich to attract beautiful women?

No, that's not why I got rich. I got rich because I wanted to be powerful. I actually didn't want money. I want power. Turns out everyone realizes once they have money that they never want money in the first place. They want power. You know this. Elon himself knows this. Imagine being Elon, the richest man on the planet. You still got some jezebel fucking Ashley running her mouth about you.

You.

And take you to court. That's the matriarchy we live in. You can be the richest man on the planet. Some silly woman can still lie about you and drag you to court. Isn't that incredible? Think about that. That would never happen in ancient times. You're a king. You're the richest man on the face of the earth. And some random chick gets to drag you to court and put you in front of a judge. Incredible. Look at me, trying to take down my empire with these women, just lying. This is the world we live in. We live in a matriarchy. No man is safe. Point I'm making is, if you're a man who wants the most attractive women on the planet and you want true beauty, the women you find will instinctually want money because they're beautiful, beautiful women. That's what they want. They want to get something for their beauty because they understand how unique they are. Don't we all? If you understand your unique set of skills, you want a high paying wage at a job. If you know you're the only person who can do this job. You want to be paid well for it, don't you? This is human nature. My point is this. My point is this.

So love is transactional.

Of course love's transactional. My point is for the people complaining about Bonnie Blue, they need to shut the up and complain about all the women out here pretending they love men and dragging them through divorce courts and taking half their stuff. See, with me taking half of a man's stuff. You've never taken half of a man's anything. You've taken some only fan subscription. She ain't taking half of the man's house.

Well, wait, wait a minute here. What. How much your top subscribers pay you? I mean, she's.

Yeah, but that's voluntary. It wasn't taken. It was given.

He's. They've chosen to. That's like if.

How much. What's the. What's the biggest amount of subscribers?

We're talking like hundreds of thousands.

Hundreds of thousands. Of course, an individual man pays.

Yeah.

Just to see your content online.

Yeah, but that's given. It's not taken. She didn't drag him in front of her.

What do you think about men spending hundreds of thousands of pounds?

I used to have a webcam studio. That's normal. If she didn't take. She didn't take a man in front of a judge and forcibly take his stuff. I think what Bonnie's doing is far less destructive or heinous than a woman dragging a full grown man in front of a judge and making him liquidate half of his empire that he worked for his entire life so she can take that money and go another man with it. I think every single divorce currently going through the courts today is more heinous and more aggravating than anything Bonnie's done.

Well, if someone got with me, I'd be like, andrew, I've got tight holes, good blowjob skills, and I'm not going to cry rape the next day.

How could you be tight with that? I don't want to just state the obvious, but how could you be tight with that amount of men?

Well, that'd be your opinion, Rob.

I'm just a question. My opinion doesn't mean anything in this situation.

I can prove it, though. Do you want to prove it? We'll see who's tighter, your wife or me.

Next question. Huh?

Andrew, what's your biggest failure or regret?

I don't operate from a realm of failure. I don't think I've really failed it very much. I think I've done pretty good in this simulation considering the primary objectives of life.

Would you? Not class, though, going to prison.

I don't.

But isn't success a series of small failures or big failures in order to be successful?

Yeah, but I mean, what's the primary objectives of the masculine world? The primary objectives are to have an empire, which you can't say I don't have financially and socially. I'm was a cultural force to have progeny, which I have, to be strong and to be well known and renowned, which I have. You know, I dedicated my 20s to fighting in the ring. No one can say I'm not brave. I dedicate my life to combat. And I have a whole bunch of children and a whole bunch of money. It doesn't matter if I go like prison for the rest of my life. I've lived more life than most men ever will.

Yeah.

And I think I've done pretty good in this version of the reality, considering I'm from a Luton council estate.

Anyway, all.

I don't operate from the realm of regret, and I don't regret going to jail, and I don't regret anything bad that's ever happened to me and I never will. If bad things happen to me in the future, I won't regret them either. I just don't operate from that frame. I really do consider myself far more a commentator on life than a liver of life. I am a vessel, but I observe everything from above. And what happens to me, this is just the body, the conduit that God was fortunate enough to give me to observe life through. I'm glad he made it tall and strong and sexy and brown. That's great. But I'm quite externalized about things and if I go to jail, I'll enjoy the experience of jail.

Are you hot on yourself?

You have to be, otherwise you can't win.

Are you hard right now? I mean, I heard they call you Cobra Tate. Are you packing a python?

Bonnie. You know. You know, Bonnie, you're not an ugly woman. You're attractive. But because I'm jaded through my, you know, long and industrious career, the only thing I find interesting, really about women nowadays is kind of similar to something you said earlier.

Yeah.

You know, you said you wanted to take the souls of the virgin men. I kind of like to get a woman's heart more than I like to get her. I kind of like her to be obsessed with me. And that's easier to do when you're one of her first men.

As soon as she sees you watching your money. You're all right. You've got a heart.

Yeah, but no, that. She's obsessed with my bank. I want her to be obsessed with me for real. Like, I try and find women who love me, which is very difficult for.

Who you are and not your money and transactions.

No, it starts with the money and transactions, and it kind of stays that. But I like to have women who feel like they can't live without me. Me. Because if a woman feels like she can live without me, I lose all attraction to her. I don't know why. So it's nothing personal. I'm sure your technique is fantastic, and you're very attractive.

Thanks.

But do you think that makes you a narcissist, then?

Oh, I think every single person on the planet is a narcissist.

Yeah.

I think it's ridiculous when we sit here and say, he's a narcissist, but I'm not, of course. Ever. That's the dumbest. Every single person.

Look at the definition of it. Everyone, to an extent, as long as you want to be successful and you believe in what you believe in and you feel empowered by it, of course, suddenly you're a narcissist.

Everybody's a narcissist. Everybody's out for themselves. Everything is transactional. And the goal of all transactions is to get the better end of the deal. And I have no problem with girls spending my money if I feel like I'm getting the better end of the deal. If she gives me, like, children, for example, that's one of the ways she can give me the better end of the deal. If she dedicates her life to me and she's sexually exclusive to me, and she doesn't go out clubbing or partnering, it doesn't do anything without telling me. And she gives me her life and her loyalty. I feel like that's worth some money. That's a transaction. But it is a transaction. It's absolutely what it is. I'm not interested in having sex with women just for the sake of sex. I really. This might be controversial.

Don't find sex controversial.

I know. I don't find sex that entertaining. I really don't enjoy it that much. Maybe you need to switch.

Sex isn't supposed to be entertaining.

No, I really, like. I. I'll be halfway through a. And I'm just like, you know, what am I.

What.

I got better to do? I can go.

You need to impregnate her.

Yeah, exactly. That's the only reason I'm doing it. Because I. I really don't find sex that.

How long are you lasting in the bedroom?

Long enough, my dear. I don't really find sex that entertaining. I don't enjoy sex that much. I don't really care really. I'm not that sexual a person and I think that's because I could have it as much as I wanted. Maybe. I don't know. I mean, most men are so busy trying to chase it all the time that it's entertaining to them. But because I can basically any girl on the planet all of a sudden, I really just don't really want to.

Would you like a girl out or is that gay in your eyes? Because you're not doing that to breeder.

I think perhaps if a man licks a girl out foreplay, I wouldn't say it's completely gay. No, but if you just licked a girl out and then didn't her, I guess that would be kind of weird. And that's how I see sex with a condom or sex with. On birth control. I see it as that if you imagine you just lift a girl out and then stopped, I think it'd be kind of weird. I don't know. But who gives a what I think, right? I'm just a guy, but my guy.

With a lot of.

My primary objective is to die with children that my primary objective is children. Like perhaps it's because if you have an empty life, if you're a man and you're at home all day and you're got a basic 9 to 5 job and you don't have much going on in your life, perhaps sex is a lot more entertaining to you because you have all these beautiful women, you still on Instagram that you can't and you have nothing else you can do. But me, I can any of these girls on Instagram and I don't really want to because I have. I can drive any car in the world and go anywhere in the world and I have private jets and I have court cases to fight and I have an empire and I can do podcast. I can do so many amazing things that sex is just further down the the rankings than. Than other stuff I can do each day. If I wake up each day, I don't go. I want to. I wake up and go, you know what? By the time I do this and this and this and this and this and this and this, I've had a great day. Maybe it's just because my life's so fantastic and the fact that all these women these men are chasing, I could have makes them less appealing. But most these men get no pussies. Of course they're obsessed with pussy. Starving men are. Starving men are obsessed with food. And if you have a buffet, you eat a bit and you're kind of bored of it. If you have a buffet in your house, you're just not hungry.

Yeah, I think like the average guy in my queue is just someone that goes to work, they've got a wife, maybe a couple of kids and like sex is the most interesting thing they've got in their lives. So I can't be.

Of course they have nothing else interesting to do, you know, but I have, I have other very interesting things to do. But yeah, so I don't. I'm not an overly sexual person, I would argue. And I'm glad I'm not because if I was overly sexual like Diddy, I'd be toast by now. Imagine that. Four different federal agencies for five years have investigated me and they managed to find all. They couldn't find anything. They couldn't find any orgies, they couldn't find anything. They're like, okay, we found a couple girlfriends and he had sex with them and then they had sex with him like a hundred times. And they're saying one of the times you didn't buy my handbag. So it's rape. Like even their cases are. They can't even build a case on me. Thank I'm not overly sexual because if I was, I'd be in jail. Which again, let's analyze this. This is truly hypocritical and insane that we live in a society which is overly sexualized. But then if you're a man who is overly sexualized, the second you do something they don't like, they use your over sexuality against you. Look at Russell Brand. He was the poster boy of degeneracy. He was drug taking, running around all over tv, flirting with every single girl he met on television. Channel 4 were dragging girls up from the crowd to go flirt with him. He was seen as a playboy. It was funny, it was promoted. And now that he talks anti vaccine or using it against him to try and put the guy in jail. So we're living in a society which is over sexualizing everyone and then randomly picking and choosing the people they don't like who talk about something unrelated to sex. It's not politics.

Is it really random?

Well, it's not random. They're choosing the people who talk about things unrelated to sex, usually politics, and using the sexuality against them. So they're making everybody guilty of a crime at the base level, everybody is born guilty. The original sin. And then randomly jailing the people. Not randomly choosing and jailing the people who do other things they don't like. So it's completely unfair to Russell to promote a young man to take drugs and be sexual and then use it against him later. And it's completely unfair to convince women to go out and be sexual and make a bunch of money from it like Bonnie has and use it against her. What I'm saying is that society has put us here. We are exactly where we deserve to be. Bring the asteroid. The. This is where we are now. This is where we are. And the only reason I'm not sexually overly sexual, truthfully, is because I see it for what it is and I don't really want to partake too much and it's literally saved my life, or I'd be in jail right now. And what. What would I have done wrong? Nothing. Is there anything wrong with four or five women? No. If they all want to. What's wrong with it? Nothing.

Yeah, I think as long as everything.

I mean, I'll be honest. Is baby oil illegal? I mean, we talk about it all the time.

What's hard to buy for a while in the shops, though?

Well, we talk about it all the time like it's. Like it's evidence of crime. I'm not defending Diddy. I don't even like him. I'm saying he had baby oil. Okay, where's the crime? He all these women. Where's the crime? Oh, he had another man, his girl. Where's the crime? Where's the crime?

Consensual.

There's no. Yeah, there's no crime. But people are so stupid. They. Oh, look, he had a bunch of sex. Jail. That's not how it works. We're telling people to have a bunch of sex. We're encouraging people to have a bunch of sex. We're telling women to have a bunch of sex. We're telling men to whoever they want, not have kids. This is what we're telling people to do. And then we're saying it's against the law when the person does something they don't like. It's a false dichotomy. We live in it. Saved my life that I didn't do it. Thank no blowjob that good. Jesus Christ.

I'm glad I'm boring until May.

Bonnie, I know you would never cry rape, but somehow I'd end up with a human trafficking charge for touching. I don't know. They'd Say I forced you to do it. Nah. No.

People always say I belong in prison. When I see like tick tock. It's like, how is she not in jail? She's a predator. She's a groomer. And I'm like, everyone I fuck is 18. Everyone I fuck, they're consenting to it. And I'm like, how the fuck am I meant to get arrested for that? And if you're saying that's prone rape culture, then how confusing that is that for the younger generation? Because if they're thinking consensual sex is rape, how many more times are they going to cry rape when that was also consensual? Because if you're saying I'm a rapist and I prove all the time everything's consensual and above board, then how confusing is that for the younger people?

Well, you're not a rapist. 1 and 2. Consensual sex now currently under the law is rape because a woman can remove consent post action because she's unhappy with how the relationship turned out. So all consensual sex ends up being raped once the woman's upset.

Okay, I've got some really good advice to you. Next time you a girl, make sure the Birkin is ready. No court cases.

Then there's gonna be another Birkin and another Birkin. But no, you're right. This is the world we live in now. And, and it's. It's very difficult and hard to be a man now. And that's why most men are actually just checking out and giving up on women, by and large.

Maybe.

Do you think you see a lot of men? Do you think it's hard being a man?

Yeah, for sure. They get so much stick and women are so protected now. I'm not saying that's for everything. Like there is loads of women crime. There is loads of women being murdered. I'm not saying that doesn't happen. But men's mental health is. Women do nothing to it to help it. And then women are the ones that talk about everyone should be happy and positive. It's women that sit there on their couches with the two kids in a council house making tiktoks and videos instead of thinking, right, I'm going to better myself, I'm going to go to the gym, I'm going to go and get a job so I can help be independent. They don't care. They just do f Ck all of their life. And men have to work so hard. So yeah, I want to pleasure home. Yes, I want to make them feel happy. Couldn't give a shit if their wife's having to go to bed crying because I've just fucked their husband.

What's your biggest failure or regret? Bonnie? Don't give me none of this. No failure, no regret.

No, no, no. Like, I guess just. I mean, I didn't fall into the system for too long. I only worked in a corporate job for five years. If I'd have stayed in that for 20 years, I'd be saying me, that was the mistake. I copied everyone else. But I guess it's just trusting people too soon. Not being. Not understanding, I guess just being naive. That people a lot of the time have other intentions which you don't see at times.

And what one piece of advice would you give Andrew Tate?

Get the Birkins, drop the rape charges.

I think he does get the Birkins anyway, doesn't he?

Yeah. I mean, my problem is very similar to yours, Bonnie, is that I'm too well known. And once you get too well known, problems arise. There is.

Can you ever go back?

Well, what do you mean ever go back? Disappear from the Internet.

I mean, stop becoming more famous, stop courting it.

I think I kind of already have. I'm already doing a lot less than I previously did. There'll be a day I disappear from the Internet, but the story of Icarus is true. And I think Bonnie, actually.

So when you say there'll be a day you disappear off the Internet because you'll get assassinated.

I, I just, I. I think the story of Icarus is true. And you know what, I'm saying this genuinely from the bottom of my heart. I like to believe I'm a pretty good judge of people. And I believe Bonnie is a good person. I believe she's very honest. I believe you're a good person. And I think you should keep in mind, no matter what you do, the story of Icarus, that if you get too close to the sun, something bad is going to happen. And as a woman, I can't even truly. Exactly.

18 year old, five. Good SPF some, right?

Well, yeah, I. As a woman, I can't exactly identify how it would happen. Yeah, as a man, it's easier to work out how it's going to happen. But you've already had a taste of it now. And a lot of life is finding the happy medium and the happy balance where you're buoyant and you're making money and you're well known, but you're not too well known and not making too much money because if you do too well, problems appear. And this is not just in sex work. This is not just online. This is with everything. This is with being a thief from Wall street or being a drug dealer. There's a level of drug dealer where you have a nice car, a nice house, and a nice life, and you get up to that next level, and before you know everyone's trying to kill you in the Met, police raid your house. You have to be very careful and make sure you have the level of buoyancy where you're doing well, but you're not doing too well.

You've gone way beyond it.

I have gone way beyond it.

And is there any going back?

Well, the story of Icarus is true, and we're gonna see. We're gonna see what happens. I have to beat all of these cases, which I believe I'll do, because I've done nothing wrong. The process is to punishment. And in the meantime, I'm just going to commentate on the society that we live in, as opposed to trying to change it very much. I'm just going to commentate on it and enjoy it for what it is. And this has been a very enlightening and interesting conversation. And I had a feeling Bonnie and I would agree on most things, because I think Bonnie lives in the real world. She's a realist. And when you're a realist, there's only one set of facts and circumstances. And Bonnie's not sitting here trying to put poor or push any delusions, which is actually quite refreshing, because most of the time, if you watch a man on a podcast with a woman, the women are completely delusional. If you watch whatever podcast or you watch Fresh and Fit or you watch these other podcasts I've done, you sit with a whole bunch of delusional women who just say delusional bullshit, saying they're 10 out of tens and all this garbage. But you're very realistic, and it's very nice.

And even the people that are in sex work, they expect stuff. They're like, people should subscribe to me. They should pay for my sex tapes. I'm like, no, they've got to be interesting. There's got to be a reason why they should pay for that. You'd never expect anything. And too many women just expect things to fall on their plate.

Yeah. Which is a symptom of society, because society has told women that, you know, they should get whatever they want without having to work too hard for it. And, you know, a lot of them have bought into that. Some of them are beautiful enough to pull it off. Some aren't. And the ones who aren't get upset and they march and talk about a bunch of like, you know, they need more wages or more money or what.

Shouldn'T, what should a woman that hasn't been born with overt beauty do then?

Well, she should find a man she loves with all of her heart and she should encourage him to want to take care of her. I mean, the masculine imperative is to protect and provide for what we love. It's very easy to find a man who will take care of you and provide for you and protect you and give you what you want. If you make him feel respected and loved, it's very easy to do. But if you refuse to make him feel respected and loved, you're never going to find what you want. And it doesn't matter how attractive you are, as long as you're realistic about the kind of partner you choose.

If you're a. Plastic surgery is a thing nowadays as well.

Well, there you go. But if you're, if you're, if you're an average looking woman and you want a 10 out of 10 super famous, super rich man, you have to understand that you're never going to probably get what you want out of him. But if you're prepared to have an average man working an average job, you probably get the world out of him. He'll give you his very best. So a lot of it's down to expectations and I think a lot of people instinctively know this, but we live in a world where nobody's ever happy and the grass is always greener. There's nothing more toxic and more destructive to the female mind than social media in general. Not because of what Bonnie's doing. Actually, I would argue not because of what Bonnie's doing. I would argue if you look at a woman on Tick Tock and watch them, next time you see a girl on Tick Tock, I've seen them do it. They scroll past a guy giving her a Birkin, then a girl, then a girl on a private jet with some guy with roses, then a G wagon full of roses, then a boat in Dubai. That and women are sitting there with their boyfriends, their normal boyfriend with a normal job going, why are these getting all of this and I'm not getting it? It. That woman's not even that pretty. I'm as pretty as her. I want all of this. And before you know it, she starts DMing me trying to get it. That's what happens. So the world's Completely. Because social media is giving this grass is always greener garbage. And then the women who are with me are crying because they can't find a man who sits at home with him every night and watches Netflix. And the women who have a man who sits at home with them every night watching Netflix is crying because they can't find a man like me to pay for their private jet. And everyone's miserable and everyone's unhappy, and everyone's just chasing all over the place, and nobody has any grounding anymore. And the grounding used to be from ignorance. You'd meet someone, you knew them. You only knew them. You didn't know the outside world. Even in my generation, when I was 21, I didn't know what Monaco was. I didn't know Monte Carlo, Dubai didn't exist. I didn't see Santra pay. I didn't see any of this. If you're 21 now, you're sitting there, the woman you fell in love with in. In high school, she's in Monaco on a boat. You're working in Greggs, and you're like, what the what? I need money now? Like, the world's changed, everything's complicated, everything's difficult. So I would argue, even though I don't have the answers, the best thing we can do is start from a foundational base of truth and honesty. Which is why I say I respect Bonnie for being truthful and honest. It's much better to be truthful and honest like she is, than do what these other women are doing, which is pretend they love me to get some money and then cry rape when they don't get it. That's the true destructive society. The truly destructive female is not Bonnie Blue. It's the woman who cries rape because she doesn't get the money she wants. It's the woman who takes a man to divorce court and liquidates his empire because she's unhappy that he had a fling on a fucking holiday trip with his boys. Those are the toxic, destructive women. It's the women who belittle the man who goes to work every day to pay the rent, to pay for the house, and won't suck his dick like Bonnie describes. When you want to have a man go out and work all day every day and give up his life, getting up early in the morning to carry bins around so that you can eat food, and when he comes home, you have no admiration or respect for him. That's destructive. Far more destructive than what Bonnie's doing, because Bonnie's honest, and we should operate from a realm and a frame of honesty at all times. And that's why society's. Fuck.

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I think it's just never believing in the government, never believing in the system, just looking out for yourself apart from yourself. And you can't be naive to it, you can't be stupid to it. And I guess for a while I fell into that.

So, Andrew, if. If it's not about money, it's about power, then obviously there's no amount of money that would entice you to sleep with Bonnie. But what about all the power in the world? If you could have all the power in the world, one to one, solo.

With Bonnie for a tight heart and.

Good blowjob, would I fuck Bonnie for all the power in the world? Yeah, absolutely. Fuck yes. Of course I wouldn't fuck Bonnie for pleasure because I don't want to have sex for pleasure. I probably wouldn't fuck Bonnie to have a kid because I have a bunch of other women I can have kids with that have, with all due respect, less past. But if you were to give me some kind of incentive, like a genuine incentive, like I'm a full grown man, you something. Well, will I wait? Will I use my dick for gain? Yeah, you give me all the power in the world. Yeah, probably. Probably. Money. 5, 6 mil. What's that? Week's wages. It all right? Weeks wages, bro. I mean, I ain't gonna hate it. I may not like it. I may be thinking of something else at the time. I may be busy in my head, but whatever, who gives a.

So he's just said for five or six mil, I mean that, that you could block the Internet together.

No, I never said to Be on camera. That's a different level. That's a different. That's a different pay grade. But no, but I'm. I'm saying, like, Rob, you ask these questions and. And they always get me off on rants. I don't mean to rant so much, but men use their dick for power all the time. Why do men even want an attractive woman next to them? What does it give them?

Makes them feel good in front of other men?

Probably some status. That's right. And how does a man keep a woman happy? One is financial and one is protection. One's provision, the other one's sex. Women want the sex, not men. Women are more horny than guys. I don't know. If you're the kind of guy who's more horny than your wife, then your entire relationship's doomed to failure. Because in my experience, women want sex all the time. And I'm. I can't. And I don't want it. I'm busy. And they're always trying to get it. They're always trying to get sex at me. And I'm like, no, I got other stuff to do. I'm not interested right now.

But maybe it's because they think that's what you want. They're like out of the margin.

No, it's because I'm the. It's because the dynamic. The dynamic in my relationships is what it should be, which is that I'm the. The tip of the spear. I'm the top of it.

And they're chasing me all the time.

Which is how it should be because I'm the prize because I'm the world famous billionaire, not them. So they want sex out of me more than I want to give it to them.

But you don't care about their feelings.

It's not about the feelings. I'm saying that men will use. Men will get a really pretty woman and say I have to have sex with her good. So that she wants to be with me. So men use their dick for gain all the time. And why do they want the really pretty woman? Well, they want the really pretty woman for status. Is. So if you're telling me, would I have sex with Bonnie Blue for all the power in the world, Absolutely I would. Of course I would. I'd save the world. It'd be a. It'd be a benefit to humanity, a.

Service to the human race, community workers.

So of course I would. But would I have sex with Bonnie for pleasure? No. Would I have sex with Bonnie for nothing? No. But do I have Sex with any woman for nothing or pleasure? No, not really. I mean, maybe I'm just boring. I'm really not one of those guys who wakes up and goes, yeah, you need a sex. I don't give a. Don't care. Got other to do.

Bonnie, what's the most disruptive thing you've ever done?

Generally, I'm really innocent. I've not really done much.

So sleeping with 1057 men in a day on an average. I worked out the average. Over a 12 hour shift, no breaks, 38 seconds. That's not disruptive?

No, that's good work ethic. There was nothing disruptive about it. I was on my back having orgasms. They was coming. It was a fun activity. Active day, breeding day, really. So happy Father's Day, boys. But no, it was wasn't disruptive. Me walking around shooting people up. Disruptive. I'm not doing that. I mean, I'm taking their loads but I'm not shooting up. And really probably if I drove through London Bridge and ran people over, I'd probably get less press than me. A thousand people. True society hide all the that's going off.

True.

As soon as it's a sex worker because it's not really damaging news. But they push it out there because they don't want to show what's really happening.

See, she's based. She's based. They print about me negative every single day in the paper because of podcast. They don't talk about the fact that the borders are open. We're being invaded by migrants with no passports. They don't talk about the drug problem. They don't talk about the stabbing problem. They don't talk about the fact that no one can pay the bills anymore. They don't talk about the inflation. They don't talk about the gang rapes. They don't talk about nothing. They talk about me and Bonnie. Why? To distract people from the real issues. She's right. You could literally get a semi truck and run people over on Tower Bridge and get less press than what she's doing. And I could go out there and be a heroin dealer and get less negative press than the podcasts I do.

Because we live in bad guys. We're the villains, apparently.

Clown world. It's clown world. Bonnie is the result of the society that we've created. So I wish her the absolute best. I am proud of her for doing what she's doing. The only time I would be disappointed in what Bonnie's doing is if one. If she was doing it for free. I'd be like, why the you not getting paid? That's dumb. Or two, if she starts waving across around and talking about God, live with it to the end. Get rich and do it. Done.

The end, I think.

No, it's not the end. What's happening with Lily? You got hoe beef?

Not ho beef, Just a leech.

Is she?

Yeah.

I want to hear about the whole beef. Women can't get along as curious. So it was like you were friends and then what happened?

Well, I'll tell you the full story.

Cool.

We work together. I invited it to Nausican Freshers week. I'm obsessed with 18 year old fucking them joining the virginities. I was like, hey, come along. She'd not done gang bangs before. And you know, afterwards I did podcasts. I spoke about freshers. Like, oh, me and Lily did it together. We did, yeah. She straight away was like, oh, I don't know who Bonnie is. Yeah, I think I know her. And I was like, okay, well, that's weird because we've just done a gang bang together. I organized it, I paid for the shoot, I promoted on my social media. I marketed it all. Okay, fine. I was like, hey, I really want to sleep with a thousand people. I want to break a world record. A week later, she promotes on her social media, Hey, I want to sleep with a thousand people. I was like, that was my mistake. I was naive and thought people could support one another. I thought you could share. This is what I'd like to do in my career. Turns out it's not always the case.

Would you say she was disloyal?

Yeah, I mean, she never needed to be loyal to me. It's the cleverest thing she's done.

He's just reeled you in hook liners.

Women are never loyal to anything but how they feel. She cared more about feeling important than she cared about her friendship with you. Even though it was your ideas, even though it was your money, even though you set it up. Her feelings, her ego mattered more than her friendship to you. And it matters more than anything else because women are only ever loyal to how they feel. You will never find loyalty out of a woman, whether you're a man or a woman. Women have no ability to be loyal to anything but their feelings.

That's why they don't have brains. That's the issue. They can't think of their own ideas. Everyone has to leech onto me. You'll find, for example, I said, multiple other creators do what I do, but they don't get banned because they don't have enough brain cells to promote themselves like I do. I'm not the only person that claims to sleep with people. I'm not the only person that's claimed to have done what I've done. Yet you don't see them in the press. You might the odd time, but not much, because they don't have the brains. I do.

Are we at the end now?

Oh, if you ever get, you know, put in jail, can I be your pen pal?

Yeah. Write to me.

Yeah, that'd be fun. I'll write to you and come.

Yep.

I'll be nice, though. I'll sneak some virgin's pants in there.

So. Well, Bonnie. And then a normal pen will do just fine. But I would. I would. I would very much enjoy your letters. Yeah. For you to keep me updated on the outside world. Sure. I would very much enjoy your letters. And I wish you the absolute best in your career. And I do think this. This cancellation will end up being the best thing for you because it was one of the best things for me in the end.

A massive lesson learned. And that's what I've taken from this already. It's like a. Okay. Why did I allow so many people to control me? Why did I, like, you know, someone else, try and say what I can and can't do, like I'm the one in control? And that was my mistake.

You have looked at the chessboard of the society that has been built off the back of Simpson feminism, and you have found the best move that allows you to win the game. And I wish you absolute best with your career.

One question. Why'd you always do the emoji? Is that I'd say so.

Nah, it's not. It's. It's channeling my chi.

Oh, maybe I should go find it in the sun.

Maybe you should do lots of things, Bonnie.

I don't know, but maybe we'll go skiing.

No, I don't think so.

Paris with your brother.

No, I don't think so. Unless I get all the power in the world, I think I'm gonna stay boring.

I can give you a tight and good blow jobs.

I'm sure. I'm sure you could. And if I ever wake up and I really desire it, I'll. I'm. I'll ask you.

Okay.

And I have a feeling.

Make sure that Birkin's ready.

I have a feeling you'll probably come and say yes, but I'm okay for now. Thank you very much.

Okay.

Thank you. You.

I respect your consent.

Thank you.

So, Andrew, do you think Bonnie is a man?

No.

Do you think transvestite?

No, she's clearly not a transvestite.

You tweeted about it.

She may as well be.

Why?

But you. You tweeted about it.

No, I said I'd ask, but I already know the answer. The answer is no. Bonnie is not trans. I can tell, but she may as well be. Why? I mean, if you were a transsexual.

Yeah.

Would the men you be any less gay? I mean, no kid's gonna come anyway. There's gonna be jizz anywhere and everywhere.

You gotta make sense.

I mean, I'm. I. Does it matter at this point about it? No, I'm just. I. I knew the answer. I knew she wasn't.

But my point is how gullible people, though, it shows how stupid people are. Like, instantly people believe it. They're like, you must be trans. It's like, how stupid are people? Like, I have got multiple videos online. I've got thousands of people. Have any of them come forward and go, me, that was a dick pushed inside? No.

Yeah, you clearly weren't. And people are stupid. But my point is, if she was, I don't think the sex that is happening at these events would be any more or less gay. I don't think it changes anything. No children are going to come out of it and there's semen everywhere. So it'd just be one more dick in the room. I mean, 1057, 1058. Like, who really gives a. At this point? It doesn't really matter, does it? She ain't gonna get pregnant and so who cares? You may as well be. She could be. Who knows?

So, Bonnie Blue. What about Greta Thunberg next time? What about her Face off with Greta Thunberg? I mean, it sounds like you got some newfound respect for her.

No. I mean, Greta was always a champion of causes. And a broken clock is right twice a day. She championed. Now she's championing something good. Hopefully she doesn't champion again afterwards. I did see her champion championing. Something to do with Western Algeria. Some regional conflict in Western Algeria that I didn't even hear of. Some weird group. So she manages to find the strangest conflicts on earth to stick up for. But she got one right. Congratulations. Let's hope the next one isn't stupid.

But it looked like you had a bit more respect for her.

Well, I thought you were talking about Greta Thunberg on Onlyfans in a Gang Bang for a second. I was like, what the fuck?

That would be quite interesting.

I Thought you were talking about getting a me and Greta. You confused me.

I think you confused yourself, Andrew, because there was nothing coming from me about that energy.

Yeah, it must be my thoughts. Must be.

Maybe I should start wearing weird T shirts and I'll be more your type. Cut my hair a bit shorter.

Would you, like, literally do anything to sleep with Andrew? It feels like you would.

No, like I would definitely him, but.

But it feels like I'm not gonna.

Get a rape charge.

But you can't me because I you. You can't me. I know. She's right. I you.

Your search history is a lot of pegging, so maybe I could. You.

My search history is a lot of pegging.

Pegging. I would put a strap on and you in the ass.

I don't think you would. And I don't understand women who think that they.

Even if it came with a Birkin.

I don't think when women say they the man, that's actually a weird societal thing. I've noticed not just you, but lots of women do that. They go, yeah, I fucked him. No, you were fucked by him. Women talk like they did the job on the guy when it's the guy who did the job on them. Have you noticed that this is a modern phenomenon? This never used to happen five, six years ago. The man would say, yeah, I her, or, yeah, he slept with me. But now it's like, I him. Like, they're. Well, that is her profession. But lots of women say this in general, and it's something I've noticed before. And I've high. I've said to women before, in general. In general conversation. I'm like, no, you didn't fuck him. He fucked you.

If I thinking of, oh, I fucked him. I'm thinking of him lying there, me doing a lot of riding, a lot of the work. If I'm thinking of getting fucked, I'm thinking in doggy, and you plow in the back of me. Do you. I mean, like, it's. If I think of me doing the work, then I think of, I fucked him. Yeah, but if it's more like he's fucking me, then it's like, oh, I'm being more pillow princess.

That makes. That makes sense. I understand it, but it's just a weird language thing I've noticed that women say now. And I think that it's actually a symptom of the society we live in where women somehow are becoming more masculine. It's something I've noticed women do that they never used to do. I'm an old man. I'm 38. But women never used to say that. Now they say it quite openly and honestly, as if they've achieved something. Men used to go out there and sleep with women and brag about sleeping with girls. But now girls go and brag about sleeping with men like they pulled off something that was difficult to do. When the truth is any woman can go out and get drunk and sleep with anyone. It's not difficult. But they talk about it like they've achieved something.

Yeah.

And they say they fucked him as opposed to being fucked by him. It's a. Interesting. We could analyze the language and we could extrapolate how that applies to the mentality of the sexual encounter and how that would apply to society, by and large. And we could talk about it for hours. But I think most people understand the point I'm making. And the point I'm making is that women have completely changed their attitudes towards sex because they no longer see themselves as giving anything to the man as opposed to. They are now taking from the man.

And do you see that about your 1057, you took their sex. I mean, I think you've said it, haven't you?

Yeah, I don't really know, to be honest. I just said, look, hey, guys, I'm open to the public. I don't think too much into it. It was. We had sex, if you want to call it. I fucked, then they fucked me. Some of them wanted to fuck me, others laid there so stiff there was virgins. They didn't know what to do with it. So I rode them and I took control. Each sexual encounter is different. I don't care how it's worded. I just loved it and was so fucking wet. So that was the day.

That was the day.

But Bonnie's a unique individual with a unique set of talents. But by and large, sounds like a gangster movie.

Unique set of skills.

She is, yes. She. She's taken. But that was. That went over your head because that was such a really good joke. Taken. Get it? Yeah. But by and large, when women are saying they the man, and when society changes to the point where that becomes the normal lexicon, the normal language, when women are saying they the man as opposed to being by the man. Women mentality has changed from giving themselves to the man to extracting from the man. And you can apply that to the financials, of course, but you can also apply that to the emotionality into the entire relationship as a whole. It's a symbol of the masculinization of women. Basically. When Women say they the guy, when really is the other way around. Women used to see them. See it as I gave myself to him. Women don't see that anymore. And you can apply that to relationships in society, and you can apply that to everything. You can extrapolate that out? Of course.

So what's this about you having a sex demon inside you, Bonnie?

Well, apparently I've got soulless eyes. What do you think? And wait, sorry, a picture. There's me on my knees, looking up to you. Tell me if they're soulless or tell me if you're hard.

Do you have a soul?

Yeah.

The last time you cried.

A long time ago.

I could say the same. So I have to be careful. But I'm a man, you know. I don't think you're soulless. No, I think that. I don't think you have a sex demon inside of you either. I think you've made a very conscious decision, and I think you have separated your emotions from the logical side of your brain so that you can win in the logical realm, which is actually quite a masculine thing to do in. By and large, men ignore their emotions to win. Yeah, I think that's all you've done. And I do that every day. Most men do that every day to ignore their emotions. To win. Men give up their bodies all day long. Men give. I give up my body fighting. I risked my body fighting to make money. Men risk their bodies on building sites and risk their bodies at war. Yeah, men give up their bodies all day long for financial gain and a lot less money than you're making. And they give. They hide their emotions to do it. You go to war in a trench, you're a soldier. You have to hide your emotions to do it. And you're risking your body to get paid or to do something that you believe you need to do for whatever reason. That's all you've done. I don't think it's a demon of any kind. I think it's just a very masculine mindset. And when a woman adopts a masculine mindset, it's quite strange to be observed from the outside world. Like, wow, she's thinking like a man. That's kind of weird.

But I'm glad you think I'm not soulless. Otherwise, I'd say you'd have to put a soul in me. So.

For all the power in the.

World, perhaps imagine how powerful our baby would be. My mindset. Your mindset?

Yeah. Yeah.

You wouldn't know if it was yours, though, would you?

Well, that's the problem.

DNA test.

Paternity must be guaranteed. You know, there's some things that we can trick with modern science, and DNA test is one of them. There's many things you can trick with modern science, but you can't override the evolutionary instincts that we have. And evolutionary instincts for the man is to ensure paternity. That's the biggest instinct. There's nothing a man wants more than making sure that kid is his.

So when was the last time you cried?

I actually can't remember. Let me know when my granddad died.

And did you ask? Because that's the sense of how masculine a female is.

Well, I think it can be a pretty good measure. I mean, I know women who cry all day over nothing.

I'm just not a wet wipe exactly. Like, if something goes wrong or my only fans, you know, I heard that. I was like, okay, well, what am I gonna do? What's my next steps? What are my options? I didn't sit there and go, oh, I'm just gonna cry. I think the whole world's against me. Yeah, the world can be against you, but what the are you gonna do about it?

That's right. She's very logical, which is a masculine mindset, I think.

When I think of my life and the way things I plan it out, I don't sit there and complain. I think of a solution.

If you put a men's mind into women, loads of them will be doing what bodies.

They'd be successful.

Loads of men would do what Bonnie's doing. And if you had a masculine mind in a woman's body, loads of them would do that.

It's easy work to a certain degree. One put on this world to struggle. We wasn't put. When you get to an old age or when you're about to die, you don't go, well done. You get a medal because you took the long path. You. You struggled in life. No, it's the same. You reflect on memories, the life you've had, the life you've created. I'll get there and think, joke's on you. Because I didn't have to do years and years on a building site. I didn't have to do a customer service job and then listen to a guy that barely still pay my bills. Like, I get to live a life that I want. So it's as simple as that.

When was the last time you cried, Andrew?

I can't remember. Honestly, I can't remember. Maybe when my father died, but I don't think I really cried. Like, tears Will run down my face but I will not cry. I'm not crier. Maybe a tear will come but my face is the same. That's my famous saying from jail because it happened in jail as well. But no, I don't think I'm not a crier because crying in and of itself is an action and I think it's a pointless action.

If I'm going to take action, it's quite time consuming.

It is, yeah. If I'm going to take action, I'm going to take action against the problem if possible. I'm not going to sit there and just feel sorry for myself. And I don't ever frame myself as a victim in anything. If I. If something bad happens to me, I blame myself. So it's very easy to not cry when you don't see yourself as a victim. People are often crying when they think they're the victim. Women will start an argument with you and then when you tired of her, she'll cry because she thinks she's a victim of something when really it's her because she's a big mouth.

She started off so I don't mind people if they're emotional as long as they're doing something about it. If you're crying about the same on repeat, I'm not going to talk to you. Whereas yeah, you can be emotional, you can be a bit more, you know, tearful. But as long as you're thinking of a solution or you think of a way to change it, I'll sit and listen to you.

Body Blue has a stronger mindset than 98 of men out here nowadays.

So suppose I've got so much men DNA inside of me, perhaps that might.

Be why has she surprised you? I knew she'd be pretty logical. I knew she'd be pretty based. Of course you have to be to do the kind of thing she's doing to sit. It's a very base decision. It's a very logical decision to come to the conclusion I came to about the stealing to say, well if I'm gonna do horseshit I might as well do horseshit at the top level. If I'm gonna steal a chocolate bar, I may as well steal from Wall Street. Stealing, stealing, being a whore is being a. Yeah. If I'm gonna men and most women do. If I'm go to Magalu for go on holiday or go to Ibiza, am I gonna take drugs? Am I gonna men? If I'm gonna have all these different boyfriends, if I'm gonna men, I may as well get paid now. 99 of women men. There are very few women who have had less than two or three men in their entire lives. Those women, fine, they're allowed an opinion. But most women who have had six, seven, eight boyfriends who they all met in the club when they were doing Jagermeisters and they used to stay together two years and they break up and then they get another guy for six months, then they break up, then they have a holiday fling, a holiday romance in Tulum, then they break up. Any woman who's done that is no better than Bonnie. So it's a very logical decision to sit here and go, well I'm gonna men, so I may as well be the best at it and get paid for it. That's a logical decision. So I knew that should be pretty based. And most women who are watching this or most women who have an opinion on her are no better than her morality from a morality perspective at all. They're no better than you at all. They're just not as good at it.

If it was people that I looked at, I'm like, wow, they live in a Mason life. They're nuns can complain, but until then.

Is what it is.

The people that give me hate, like I said, you look, click on the bio. It's the stay at home mom of two. And I think, what's your issue?

Has Andrew surprised you in any way?

No, because obviously prior to this I looked at some of his stuff and I was like, you know what, I'm actually going to agree with this guy. I'm actually all of his points. When I've disagreed prior, it's because I've listened to it out of context. When you put it in context, I'm like, yeah, I agree with that. And there's not much I disagree with. I wish I could because I'm a good debater, but there's not much I disagree with.

Join the bruv party. Let's get Bonnie into politics. Let's do it. Why not, Rob? We may as well like we may as well just. Let's just, you know, let's enjoy the simulation for what it is. You want to join my political movement? We'll get Bonnie Blue. We'll get you. We'll get.

I'm London suck dick. I don't have a comment on politics.

That's perfect. That's exactly the kind of woman we need in politics. Don't vote. Girls suck dick. That's exactly. Then we can fix the country.

That is a good motive.

Think about it.

You still want to fix the uk, use Hot Heart. Still there.

You stop the women voting. It'd be pretty easy to do, which.

Is not going to happen.

Bonnie's going to make sure that happens. She's going to convince him to do something else. See? Got to think outside the box. We're going to get it done, Rob. Don't give up.

Think outside the glass box.

Do you want to talk about that? I know you stayed away from that.

Do you? I mean, yeah, basically, in a nutshell, I wanted to be in a glass box, tied up and fucked by the public for 24 hours and it put the world in meltdown.

We live in clown world and I just enjoy the circus. I want. I want Bonnie in Parliament. That's it now, Rob. It's. It's the circus now. We live in a clown world. Can't be fixed. I'm here for the fun, you know, I'm in it for the lulz. That's what I'm in it for.

So we can watch the world burn in love.

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