Tam Khan | The Real Dubai & The Truth About Andrew Tate

Tam, what do you think of the state of the UK right now?

Bullshit. Shit. It can't be worse. I mean, being born there, raised. I'm an 80s kid, raised in the 90s, I think is the best decade for me. Good memories. And it's just a shame what I see. It doesn't feel like the UK anymore, to be honest. When I go there, I just. I honestly feel like a tourist. It's been that long. I feel like a tourist when I go.

And when did you move here?

Dubai, 2008.

And why did you leave?

Why did I leave? I think at that point I wasn't married, I was single, had no real commitments, came in Dubai on a few trips. I loved it. I love the weather, I love the malls. I love the service, as you know. Yeah, just people smiling when they serve you food. I'm like, okay, that's normal, that's nice.

That hasn't happened since 1985.

That hasn't happened in 10 years in Canvy Island. And I just thought, why not take a risk and try something else, right? I was working a place called Basildon. Basildon is like, we call it Bass Vegas. It's the pits. Well, there's a place called Pits here, which we call the pits. And everyone from Essex is going to be like, why are you saying that? I'm more of a South End kind of guy. But it was just at that time, depressing. It was great. I got back from holiday, I'm in a Tesco extra car park eating sandwiches and I'm thinking, is this it? Is this life? What is this? I see Granny's walking around, I see people snot hanging there. It's 10am, a guy's got a can of stuff. Stellar. I'm like, right, time to go. And I thought, let me just try something different. I'm young, why not take that risk? And I came to Dubai, took a risk to bring the sport of mixed martial arts. And I thought, you know what? It'll be about six weeks, it'll be like a work holiday. And it's 16 years, I'm still here. So I guess. I guess I'm a resident.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And could you see the downfall of the UK when you left? Or could. Because it's a real mess. Everything's crumbling.

I couldn't see the downfall then. I'll be honest, at that time, it wasn't so much the downfall, it was more. I didn't want to be stuck in a rut with certain people. I was. I had friends who I loved dearly. But no ambition. It's either you have the same job, you've had 16, stay with the same girl, they've met in school, go to the same thing every weekend. No one leaves the town. Literally. I've got friends in Essex who've never seen Big Ben. Imagine they've never been to London.

Wow.

Imagine. So I thought, that's not for me. And it wasn't that bad then, I'll be honest. It wasn't like the knife crime you see now. Yeah, it was like the old days. If you wanna, there's an issue. You have a fist fight, shake hands after. It was still that kind of culture. It was still the kind of culture where there was always a hierarchy of respect with certain people. It was still kind of like that. Yeah, but it wasn't that bad, I'll be honest. It was just for me. I've always been ambitious since a kid. I'd listen to rap music, I'd see guys in S classes and have big chains and things. Like, I'd be like, how'd they get that? I want that. I was different to my friends a little way. Never touched a drug, never drank alcohol. So I'll be the driver. When my friends would go out clubbing, I'll be the one driving the car. I was the responsible one. So just. I guess it was more ambition, but it wasn't. I didn't foresee how bad it would get, in my opinion. Since 2012, 13, 14, I really started paying attention online and seeing articles of crime. And that's when I was like, whoa. I think when I saw Army Khan get mugged at gunpoint as well, that was shocking to me because he's a friend of mine as well. He's a celeb. He's a huge ambassador to sport in the uk. And I'm thinking, what's happened to. Well, when I'm a Khan, Olympian is getting mugged for his watch. What is going on? So I started paying attention, but now it's like. It's like a Mad Max movie, you know, it's just really gone down the pan.

Are you seeing a few people from England move to Dubai? Because a lot of my friends are talking about it a lot.

A lot, to be honest. Not only from the uk, the whole west, but especially here. I have got a company, TK Business, and this is not a pitch to be corny on your podcast, but, yeah, we specialize in setting up companies. People who want to move here.

Oh, companies.

Bank accounts and visas, and the biggest demographic of people applying or even Inquiring is from the uk. It is huge. And I think that is purely because, I mean, you work, you live in the uk. Yeah, you, you work hard. Whatever your idea of success is, you've worked hard to gain what you've got. You don't want it to be taken away. People get their Range Rover stolen off their driveway, watches robbed. Your kids can't play freely in a mall. You're worried about a pedophile or kid robbing them for a phone or their bag, God knows what. Your wife, your partner, driving at night, you're always worried. Have you back at home, are you okay? You don't have that worry here. You literally don't have that worry. Your kids can run around the mall, you don't. The only time you've got to look and see where they are is in case they fall off like an escalator or something. But there's no, there's no kind of threat of pedophiles kidnapping your kids or women getting raped in the middle of the night. You don't really have that thought.

And that's all going on a lot right now in the uk. All these gangs being exposed.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you don't have that threat for me. I work hard, but I've also got family. So my responsibility is to have give them the best life possible. And for me it's Dubai and Alhamdulillah. Thanks to God, I've been blessed where I've done not bad and I give them that kind of lifestyle and best of both worlds where I can always visit uk, see my friends and family. But for me to live there, honestly, unless I had to, inshallah, no. I mean, I don't think I could handle it. Just not even that. Just the service, the demeanor, everyone seems fed up, depressed, it's not as happy as it used to be. Yeah, unemployment's an all time high, bills are raising, taxes are raising, taxes are.

I was just with, I told you, it's just with Super Bob Blondie, Alex. And she said, yeah, pretty much only just started paying tax last year. I haven't paid tax for.

Yeah.

And I'm sitting and thinking the millions.

I paid, we just started now. I mean, corporate taxes started in 2025 now for companies, corporate tax.

So you've basically not been paying corporation tax for.

No. Since you've been pay VAT, that was it. And then VAT was introduced maybe two years ago.

What is it, 5% here or something? See in the UK it's 20.

Yeah.

Corporation tax is 25 wow. Income tax is 39.

Income tax.

Income tax is 39.

So you're paying.

You're paying 39, you're adding VAT on, you're paying 25 off corp tax. And then 39 when you draw income. 15. National Insurance, which is. Which is a tax for your staff. 3% pension contributions for them. Business rates. You park anywhere, you get fined.

Yeah. But you're paying 39. So everyone's doing that. Who. Who's legally kind of like registered there. But you're not paying that, though, when you pay tax. You're getting retired.

Yeah. You can't get in the hospitals.

Yeah. So what is your tax going to?

That's 3% conviction rate for theft and rape, which basically makes it legal. Out of a hundred crimes of the theft and rape in the uk, three get convicted and we're supposed. We're paying for the police.

It's like California, I think, when you. You can rob up to a thousand dollars, you don't get. It's a rule. Everyone who's viewing this check out, I think up to $1,000. It's not a criminal pursuit or case. So people go and running an iPhone.

So it's theft, it's legal. Yeah, yeah.

Imagine up to a thousand dollars. Crazy. It's like. It's like the movie Demolition Man. Remember the Demolition Man? Yeah. It's all perfect. You've got the guys underneath and they're saying they're. Robin. It's just the world's gone mad. It's gone mad. And I think, I love it here, but you're in a bubble. I don't really see it. So when you go back to visit other countries, you're kind of so relaxed that you forget you're wearing certain watches or you're complacent with your bag there. And sometimes you'll wake yourself up because. Yeah, it's not safe anymore. The west is not safe.

No. And is it easy or hard to move to Dubai, sort out the business, the visa, the passport, all the setup.

Is very easy nowadays. When I first came, it was difficult. Nowadays there's companies like myself and many others who do A to Z, so they'll set you up before you run around, couldn't speak Arabic and you'd be trying to struggle how to do it. Now it's very easy. It's honestly easy. The hardest part is actually doing the move, taking that risk. Yeah. Because I always push people to come and give it a go. But obviously, I mean, selfish as well. Some people have commitments, parents to look after or partners or kids in school. So not everyone has that opportunity or that they can't take that risk. So I kind of understand that they're stuck in that kind of rut. But if you can and you're in that situation where you're single, you haven't got many commitments, your parents are healthy and you're not really responsible for them, try and take that risk.

And do you think business. Do you think Dubai is a great place to do business?

I think for me, it's the best up there with Saudi second right now. Saudi's coming up and maybe take over. But it's the best, the uae, purely because it's the networking capital of the world, in my opinion. Everyone's here, everyone's business is here, everyone's setting up shop here. Used to be Switzerland, used to be Marbella. Marbella has its crime. Everyone's here. And you I'm talking about. It's like Dubai and the UAE recognize more nations, the United nations do more countries. You've got everyone here. Russians, Chinese, Asian, South Asians. There's no real sanctions, so everyone can come here. Whereas in the uk, sanctions on the Russians, they've packed up and gone. The Chinese. Everyone's here. Everyone respects the laws of land. You walk around everywhere, you don't see police. I think you've been here for a few weeks.

Yeah.

Do you see police patrolling the streets? No, you don't do.

And it's so clean. Yeah, but it's so clean. I've not seen a homeless person. Can't walk 50 yards in my city without seeing a homeless person. Not seen one.

But no police patrolling streets yet. Everyone respects the law. Right. And there's no police. See, it's just. It's kind of. It's just there, it's instilled people know the consequences. But they don't fear police, they don't fear the company. They just know around and find out. And I like that. Yeah. You know, yeah. And people say to me, oh, is there police around there with guns about? There's not. You will never see police.

Right.

You'll maybe see a traffic police just driving the streets. There's a lot of accidents and a lot of cars, but that is it. That is testimony to the leadership and the way they've made the people feel. Where you're a Westerner, you're of a different religion, background, ethnicity. To me, you can come here, live here and live the life superbly. A Muslim can. Christian, Hindu, whatever that is. Great leadership and to make everyone feel welcome and also the indigenous people here, the Emirati, they call them locals. Yeah. They love their leader. Why? Because he looks after them. Not on other countries. Every Emirati is given discounts on water bills, electricity, their weddings are paid for. They get free land.

Oh, wow.

When there's a UK Wednesday, America do that. Where does India do that? Where did Pakistan do it? No one does that. I think the last guy who probably did that was Gaddafi in Libya. So when your people love you and your leader can walk in supermarkets without security, that tells you how good the country is. You know, imagine that. Keith, Ken, Kelma walk around London alone.

Well, no, not with the way he's running the country. It'll be taken out straight away.

So for me, that's important. And I think.

And they seem, from the uk, they seem to be really embracing entrepreneurs, entrepreneurship. There's this, like, creator thing they've got, trying to draw creators over. Is. Is that how it is? They really like entrepreneurship here?

They do. And you see the Sheikh, who's done a great job, his sons, the Crown Prince, they're younger, they're more in. In touch with these things. So they really kind of promote these kind of creative things. They brought a lot of investment into AI now. They really move the times. This, regarding wellness, regarding things which are good for the environment. Loads of initiatives, but especially creative. They do a lot of summits, they do a lot of initiatives which enhances that. They do a lot of. They raise a lot of kind of money for companies who are looking for investment with great ideas. They look to invest in that as well. So, yeah, they support. Unlike the uk, they support initiatives, they support people who are looking to perform, whether it's in sport, whether it's in economics, whatever kind of industry you're in, the government are behind it and they're looking for the next generation of, like, individuals who are going to take the country to that step, you know, so it's not just come here, have it as a bank account and leverage. They want to produce, they want to bring the best talent. And that's what they're doing. And it's really like, I'm nothing. And it's. It's helped me tremendously do what I do. So that's testimony to the country itself.

Yeah. Wow. And Alex supercar blondie. She said to me, as a woman, I feel so safe here. Walk anywhere, go anywhere, do anything, feel so safe. And I think maybe the west feel that the culture is not so good for women. But she's an Australian, she's here and she's Saying it's great and it's safe. Is that how you see it here?

Yeah. I mean you get the stigma. You get people on Facebook. I won't go Dubai. You've got to cover up like a burger in. Yeah, you've got to have your eyes out and you can't. Can you wear shorts in the mall time. I'm like, bro, that's what I want. Like you get those sun readers who really believe it's like that and well, they'll sell my misses for a camel. I'm like number one. Your misses Ain't that good looking. So don't worry about. Camel's expensive. Yeah. Maybe a mosquito. Yeah. But it's this stupid like perception.

You don't know because you're not there.

Yeah. But honestly, every woman from the west or non from different cultures say the same.

Yeah.

They can live how they want as long as they abide by the rules of the land. And that's quite simple. Like any other country. Very safe. Like I said. Your last guest said it. My wife. People I'm in a gym, I'm with. I meet people on a daily basis and everyone safety. I mean, I don't really lock my car doors. I've never locked them. I only lock them to save battery. Sometimes you don't lock your car doors.

Yeah.

You leave your phones, your bags everywhere and it's not just a gimmick for TikTok going, I'm gonna leave this here for ages and see if someone comes. It's real. People don't. You can leave this and leave this in a coffee shop. Your laptop on your phone. Literally. Go make a call for an hour or two, come back, it will still be there.

Wow.

So, yeah, it's a comfortable lifestyle. You can get a Mars bar and a Snickers bar delivered to your door in 45 minutes, maybe 20 minutes depending where you live.

Yeah.

Literally you can order a Snickers and a guy will come on a bike and drop it. I'm not even lying. Like guys around the camera laughing. This is true. And to everyone laughing there, they're probably thinking about Lamborghinis. Yeah. That Snicker bar means a lot for me. That's comfort.

Yeah.

Your Netflix ensure you small things. You realize like not getting out the car and putting petrol in your car. Like I know you don't say they do all that.

This is. I mean the UK was like this in the 80s, 70s. We didn't used to lock our house in the 70s on my mum and dad and that. They used to help you and fill the petrol in the petrol station. Yeah.

So now it spoils you, to be honest. It spoils you so much. God forbid it ever ended. It's like jail. Wherever you go. It's that, it's that, it's that good. And yeah, I tell everyone, I say, you just got a visit to see.

Yeah.

Like you said, the service in hotels. Every hotel, every public toilet, you can lick the floor clean, go to a hospital, go and see a hospital. Everything is so well done. And again, it starts at the top and it buffers down. Yeah. I. I mean, to all the cultures here, the Indians, the Pakistanis, the Filipinos who make it what it is, the labor behind it all. So it works well. It's an amazing place. And I'm not paid. Everyone goes, you're paid by the government? I'm not paid by anyone. I'm telling you firsthand, because I've born and raised in uk, British, and I'm here and I'm telling you firsthand, I could literally set up shop anywhere, travel the world and there's no place like it. There's no place what comes close.

Yeah. So, as a Brit, what do you think about Andrew Tate running for Prime Minister? I. I guess your phone's been going.

Yeah, phone this, that Andrew, look, I've known him for a long time. We go back in the fight game. I remember as young Fighting one of our shows in Essex and he's a brother of mine and I know the real Andrew. I'm very close and we speak, we speak regularly. Very close to other extended family members of his, which I won't expose on here, but look, the world. Who would have thought Donald Trump would be president maybe 15, 20 years ago? Who would have. If you said Donald Trump, he was on the. What was that TV show he did?

Yeah, the Apprentice.

You would have said, imagine Donald Trump as president. You'd be like, whatever. So it's not far fetched the way the world is, but he's one of those guys, when he puts his mind to something, he doesn't want to stop and do it.

Yeah.

He'd get a lot of votes. But again, look, do you think it's.

A legit, legitimate thing he's doing?

Let me tell one thing with him. He's the most stubborn G. If he thinks he's going to do it, he'll do it. Yeah. Literally, you know, generally times I have to call Andrew, I said, what are you like? What are you talking about? Please, I'm in the file. I know him and I know his intentions. He's very genuine, kind hearted guy. Forget the sunglasses and the ball head and this and that. He's one of the nicest guys in the world. I know how he treats his family, how respectful he is to other people. I've never seen anyone publicly abuse him in person. Anytime I'm out. It's a Persona as well when you're online. It's what sells.

So he's a bit more toned down, is he?

He's a very chill guy. He's a very private, how can I say? He thinks a lot and he's very not worried, but he's. He thinks of others. He's always looking after people and he's always. He's a very good guy. You can trust him, you know, and he's. I mean, everyone knows my character and I'm very practical Muslim and I've got certain beliefs. I will not hang with someone if I thought they were the degenerate and like that, you know, I wouldn't. You could pay me, I don't care. Yeah, he's a very good guy and if he puts in my two things and I guess he's on this, bruv, his part is brother. I just saw it two days ago. I can't even be on it too much. Be honest, between me and you, I cannot go on X. It's so potent and toxic. The app is just the worst. Right, so I go in, I'll post, I'm off. But yeah, I hear things and, yeah, you know, who knows? Who knows?

So what are the chances of Andrew Tate being Prime Minister at the next election? Five years time then. What are the, what are the odds?

The odds are low for that. It's too soon. Yeah, I think, because he's got legalities to sort out, but who knows?

Do you think he's going to stay the course? Do you think he's going to put 10 years, 15 years into this?

It's hard to say, but, you know, these things are all about who's behind you and who's backing you. And it seems he's built a rapport with Elon Musk online and he's close to some of Trump's kids, so you never know. If these guys are behind him, then anything's possible, you know, let's be honest.

But I mean, Elon was behind Nigel Farage, wasn't he?

Yeah, Nigel's.

Well, yeah.

I mean, Elon, to be honest, lately is disappointed with his stance and the way he's this specifically, like, he's a lot of Islam bashing. Lately, he's. He's posting and he's reposting things from, like, retard accounts. Like guys who are just. He's not doing his investigation. Like, let's be honest, like Tommy Robinson, people will say something to say, but Tommy Robinson, we know why he's in jail for a reason. He's in jail in. In jail for violating certain instructions and accusing a certain kid of terrorism or something like that.

Yeah, yeah.

He's been exposed as other things, as being racist. He's been exposed of having an anti Islamic agenda. So it's not about immigration that they say he's anti immigrant. No, he's not. He loves these South Asians, Indians. He's always for people in West Indies. So Elon Musk promoting him, I don't think he really understands an American trying to promote English politics is funny to me. They don't know what's going on in the grassroots. England's such a multicultural society. My parents were immigrants. I'm made from that cloth. Go to London. What's great about London is the multiculturalism. It's what's great. You can wear what. No one looks at you, no one cares. Apart from the crime is that's what Britain was made from. Look at the football, look at the teams. So multicultural since a young age. I remember John Barnes, people like that. Our best boxers, our best boxes. Prince Nazim Hamid, he's an immigrant. Yeah. Links Lewis. So that's what makes Great Britain great. Yeah, is the multiculturalism. It's the way everyone just enjoys. You go to East London, you can get good Asian food. You go to South London, you've got the Jamaican food, you go to the Greek and Turkish and north, everyone's got their culture and you've got suburbs, the old English cafes, you know, that's what's great. I'm from Essex.

Yeah.

Predominantly white. I love it. There's cafes and south and seafront in the culture. So I think sometimes when he repost things, he doesn't understand the damage he's doing and because it stirs up hate with the uneducated people. And unfortunately, you see. Yeah, Elon said that.

Yeah.

Elon, come on. I don't want to see hello me in my supermarket. It's like, you know, it's like, come on, it's too late. Everyone's integrated. Look. Look at the nhs. Majority are like immigrants. Yeah. Majority of the shitty jobs in UK are immigrants, whether it's Polish, Albanians, Indians, Pakistan, whatever. But it works. And everything works together. So that's what was good about Britain, everyone. I never saw racism much when I was younger like that. It was just a culture thing.

So do you think the world's got.

More racist social media? Yeah, it's like anything people got. Women have become bad now. It's not that women become bad, worse now. It's the access. The old days, if you upset a girlfriend or you're dating, she cries, she listens to Mariah Carey track or tape, mixtape. Wouldn't she at home and call a friend, oh, Rob's up, he did this and that. I leave it a few days and call him back. Nowadays she just goes on Facebook. Shames you, six foot four, good looking guy with abs, with a penis bigger than your head, goes, yeah, poke. And then that's it. She can get you jealous. Social media's changed. It's access, it's easy access those days, the innocence gone. And social media is good and bad. It's good for business, but it's also. You can just cuss people. You can have these fake ghost accounts and just abuse your people. You could get people just jealous of your podcast and set up numerous accounts just to give you bad stars and bad ratings and bad comments just because they're just jealous. Yeah. So it's good and it's bad. And I think the world just got the more degenerate and people have think they've got a past to talk shit without getting a slap. I couldn't talk when I was younger. What would happen if you talk someone young, you get a slap.

Yeah, yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

A physical one. Yeah.

So I think the respect's gone and I don't. And here, what I like in Dubai is you can use social media, everything's there. But there's a defamation law. I can't say. I can't. If I said that.

You can't say that, you can go.

Make a case on me. Right. And I like that. It's respect.

Yeah.

If you're not, do what you want, talk about topics, but don't go out just to defame someone for no reason. And there's no limit of that in uk. Look at the press, depressed. The tabloids, they're known for it, God forbid.

Yeah.

Someone says you're a nonce, Rob, this doesn't like you. He set it up. He's played some AI. Now you could literally be murdered if that gets out.

Yeah.

And you've done nothing. You could be murdered. There's no investigation, nothing. He's a nonsense. Everyone goes, oh, let's go on the group. Let's turn on the house on fire, you know what I'm saying? So no one investigates, no one looks into it. That's what social media has done. Kids. I've got two kids. How old are they? They're five years old. They're twins. Right. I'm scared for the bullying now. Kids can just expose you online and just start a room and it goes around to millions overnight. Imagine these kids not physically and mentally as strong as us. People committing suicide over that catfish and this that. So it's amazing. But at the same time it needs to be some limits to it. And that's why I like it here. It's control. But I feel sorry for the next generation because it's just going to get worse. Yeah, I mean who knew when we were younger Soho there'd be the strip clubs and the old brass house. Everyone knows red light people running their hide sex shop. They're oh, it's embarrassing. Onlyfans. It's like porn is just everywhere. I go on X and it's just porn everywhere. People like are promoting girls applauded for being millionaires from selling their vagina. I mean, what I mean, that tells you all about society. Do you mean just to be on that private jet with a champagne glass? Oh, I've got my good Instagram pic. Yeah. I don't need no man. I can buy a house myself. I made a million dollars last week. Yeah, but you're a prostitute. You're a glorified prostitute. Society is and I don't like that. That's also a reason why I stay here. I want my kids away from that crap. I'd respect a woman who works 10 hour shift and IHOP serving pancakes. I admire that woman. I admire a guy cleaning the toilets, a guy who's doing labor work all day. That's impressive. For me, that's a man who comes hard earned money or a woman. Nowadays everyone thinks that. Easy buck. And it doesn't just stop with the onlyfans. It's all these are these fake TikTok traders. Invest with me, get my TikTok group million overnight. Fake cars, Uruses. I see them in Dubai renting and making these poor boys at home think, oh I need to do that. What do I do? Let me get a scam. Make money. No, it's all fake. It's just do what makes you happy. Work as much as you can and you'll be rewarded as much as you can. Life isn't about having those millions and being on that first class picture online. It's so social media has changed the game where guys can't even just enjoy what they want to do. They all feel pressured to be Andrew Tate. They all be. Feel pressured to be. I don't know. Give me a good role model for women. I don't. I can't actually say now, honestly, you know.

Yeah.

So unfortunate. Society's gone that way and social media makes it easy for them. And like, you can't even wear bad clothes now as kids in uk, you'll get just bullied. Yeah. Some kids don't have the opportunity to have those nice designers.

Yeah.

Everyone's following these guys on Tick Tock, thinking, yeah, I've got to have that. I've got to be the top G. Yeah. So in a way it's good, but it's also bad. Yeah. I get your promoting. You're trying to motivate people, but not everyone's going to have the opportunity. Not everyone can do it. I truly believe it's set. What you will be will be God's. It's luck. I'm lucky. If my dad and parents.

Is everything you've done down to luck, then it's got.

God's allowed it.

You put a lot of energy and work into this gym.

Yeah, I have. But do I work as hard as a labor worker building a tower on the Burj Khalifa? These guys who work from 6 to 10pm or do I work harder than the guys building roads in the UK or the guys washing cars from morning to night and stink? Do I.

They work harder than me, but manually they work hard.

Yeah, but it's the opportunities you get in life. If my dad didn't move to the UK when he chose to my mom and have birthday, I could have been an Uber driver somewhere, a labor worker. So thanks to them. Thanks there. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I do.

You got. It's. Everyone's had.

Do you give yourself any credit for. For your credit.

But I've also. Yeah, you've got to work, you've got to go up.

But I also believe and take your chances.

Yeah. You take your chance hard enough, a door opens.

Here you go.

But I was given. I was given good cards.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I was given good cards.

We're all given. We had good upbringing. Some. Some mothers are single mothers, no father figures.

Yeah.

So I don't blame. I feel bad for them. Like some of the kids don't have that guidance. Not everyone's been dealt good cards.

Yeah.

So we have to also be a bit fair. Yes, you have to work hard. Yes, you make your opportunities. But I also believe your huck, as in what's meant for you will be. You could be a billionaire. Billionaire. Tomorrow I could be broke. Tomorrow everything might just go down. A big corporation might just buy out, make gyms so much cheaper or whatever or other businesses. Who knows? Tomorrow I could die after this. But be appreciative of what you've got. So my point is, you're right, hard work. But I believe we got good cards dealt with. We were lucky. Where our upbringing was good, our parents were educated. Some people don't have that. Like I used to be like this. Oh, they're crying that, look at these idiots. But then I think these guys are born in these estates. What opportunities have they got? They're born in an estate. They're all, as soon as they're 5, 6, 7, 8 years old, they're in their little car park hanging around, around guys. If they don't act cool, they're going to get beaten up. What have they been dealt with? So you understand socio economic ways why people end up what they're doing. It's not an excuse, but you kind of understand. I never used to understand it. So I always say alhamdulillah. Thanks. Without God nothing's possible. But luck is a lot to do with as well. There is a lot of luck in how you start in my opinion.

Yeah.

My opinion is. And people might disagree, go, no, it's World cup people say, but what about Donald? Donald Trump got a million dollar loan. The whole funny meme. I only got a million dollars of my dad. Yeah. But still a million dollars.

Yeah. Back when a million dollars was a lot.

Yeah. So still like okay. It's amazing to turn a million to a billion, trust me, is a lot.

Yeah.

But still you still got, you still had that life, you could have done what you wanted. So I'm more impressed with like the Richard Branson's, the guys who came from nothing.

Yeah.

You know, really from nothing market store owners. That impresses me.

Yeah.

And the graph. But again that's as a Muslim, that's how I'm raised. That's what I believe. And I truly believe it's that and I truly believe whatever you do and make money, as long as you're content and your success is you and you feel like your kids are happy, you've got food in your fridge and you've got whatever make ticks your boxes. That's everyone's success is different, just be content because people are just like headless chickens are chasing that carrot, you know, it's hanging off the donkey's head and they don't know what's next. That's why you see suicide in these successful people as well. They have all the money, the girls, they'll suck a dick after, go gay, they'll try bisexual, they'll fuck a horse, done it all. What do I do? Let me hang myself. They're not content. They have no God. When you're truly content, you don't care. I swear I don't care as long as my kids are healthy. They hug me at home, got a wife that loves me, my mother's around, my dad's around, that's contentless. And I'm so happy with that. I mean, I see so many people suffering and the whole Gaza conflict, seeing it on TV now because we always knew what's going on. But when you see it now, it's different with tick tocks. Then I look at myself go, what am I complaining about? There's kids who've lost their family, parents who've lost their kids, blown up. And I'm complaining about not having that car or this. I get ashamed, you know, it's a wake up to me. And I have, unfortunately I post certain things on socials of lifestyle. Yes. Because it helps my business. I know. But at the same time, I'm always appreciated and I always say alhamdulillah, whatever happens, I'm always appreciative of what I've got because it could be gone tomorrow. Like that.

Yeah.

So important.

And how do you also balance that with staying hungry and motivated to keep pushing? Because you're not just going to chill, are you? You're going to want to achieve more having daughters.

I want my daughters to be. I don't want some clowns to come. Yo, I want to marry your daughter. Yeah. I want them to say, look, my father gave me everything. I don't need to get married. Just leave me. For me. That's why I work hard. I work hard so I can always take him to Disneyland, things like that. That's the. When I see the smile I put on their face when I do things that makes it all worthwhile. Yeah, I'll look after all my family, my friends. That's. That's why I do it. Yeah. A lot of my friends work with me and have jobs because that's how I want it. Like I get. I don't need them there. But if I can financially do it, I will do it. Yeah, I just like to go dinners, see people. All my friends and families and kids running out. For me, that's contentness.

Yeah.

You know, to be able to fly my mom first class for me, just to see her enjoying, put her legs up. That's like. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, that's all. So that's why I stay hungry. Yeah, that's all. And just to help my kids have a little foundation to work from so they don't have to rely on a man or something. That's why I do it. Yeah. But like I said, since a kid, I'm always ambitious and I do like my. Don't get me wrong, I do like my little things. Like I like cars, I like things. I never drink, I don't do drugs. But like to drive a fast carplay. An 80s Miami Fire soundtrack. That's me. So I have my vices, I like to do. So there's certain things. But yeah, it's all for the family and kids and just to, you know, give as much try and leave a little legacy, which was not. Who was he Rich? Was he that? Was he a good person? Leave something of substance. That's so important, in my opinion. Do you know what I mean? It's so important, you know, the respect.

So you mentioned Elon earlier and it sounds like you think there's probably too much free speech on his platform and he's saying too much and getting involved in too many things. Because I think a lot of people on the other side think hallelujah to Elon Musk because finally we can speak freely. I believe Andrew thinks that. So do you think Elon's gone too far and there's too much free speech? Like with throwing this defamation around? I mean, he's gunning for Keir Starmer at the moment and I don't like what Labour are doing in the uk, but I also think, bloody hell.

Yeah, you're a Yank.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's gunning for him and like puppet stringing us from America. So has he got too much power? Has he got too much free speech?

I don't think there's. You say there is a free speech, is there? When I cuss Israel, I'm shadow banned everywhere. Everyone who talks about Israel or Zionism, Even on X, on X2, I've seen loads of people demonetized because of this. I've noticed it with Jake Shields, with Myron people I know many other accounts. Dan Bilzerian. Okay, if it's free speech, why you upset? What Dan says, if it's truly free speech. Why is Dan anti Semitic? That's what I ask. Why? Why? If it's truly free speech, then what's the limit? Free speech, where's the limit?

Well, I mean, there has to be a limit, surely.

That's what say. So define free speech. When they say free speech, is it free if a guy comes out and goes, oh, I'm an extremist, I think, kill all these people. Is that free? Or how do you define it? What he will say is free speech. I can say that. I just want to say it. Where's the limit? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's. Yes. Yeah, it's bs. So I don't believe there should be too much because there's too much abuse and toxic. Have your freedom. Like speaker's corner. They did it. The best speaker's corner, which has been running in UK for hundreds of years, I think High Park Corner, they call it to the West, Americans call it High Park Corner. You can go there, debate religion, that anything you say in those in that corner goes. Then when you leave, back to rules. I like that. Have your debate there.

Right.

Like, no problem. Yeah, but there's limits, like death threats, extremism, cussing people's beliefs. There's a limit to it. I will always curse Israel, Zionism, but I would never cuss the Jewish Judaism belief. I've never in my life would do that about any religion. I would not. Even if I don't believe it, I will never cuss any ideology because I know some people, that's their life, and I know how I would feel. So there's certain limits. Should be, in my opinion. I would never cuss someone's mother or, you know, a child. Yeah. But if you're saying free speech, someone can just cuss your kids, put their pictures up and what they can say is freedom of speech.

Yeah. I mean, I imagine if you are running a country that would be really hard to know where that line is. Yeah, I mean, I would. I wouldn't want to make that rule.

Then they say hate speech. So what's free speech then? You're already limiting it. What is hate speech? That's what I want to know. Like, I'm for it. But what is hate speech then? You know? Yeah, everything now you can't even offend the transgender now it's called transphobic. Everything's phobic now. So therefore, where's the limit? Where's the lines? Where's the goal post? That's my point.

Yeah.

If you disrespect the Jewish faith, you're anti Semitic, but ah, but yeah, Muslims. But now it's in your holy book. So there's. If you're gonna do it, do it for everyone or don't do it at all. That's my point. Yeah. You can't have limits. And there's too many limits. Especially when you. There's a certain group of people you cannot talk about. Then you realize there's a limit to it. And then.

As in no free speech.

As in there's no free speech. The Zionists, they rule. So you notice when you talk about them, then there's limits come. Then Elon defends and everyone defends there. That tells you who's controlling the whole narrative.

Who is controlling the whole narrative?

In my opinion, the media. Zionists.

When you say Zionist, what do you. How do you define Zionists?

Zionists is like a cult in my opinion. I won't even say they're Jewish Judaism because they don't respect the laws of Judaism. There are people on a control. They've been doing it since early days in Russia. Stalin with Germany, with the US they run APAC and they, they have Rupert Murdoch's and these kind of people, the Jeffrey Epstein's, the. Who's the guy? Harvey Weinstein. These are kind of. They run the industries. You do what they say, they can ruin you and break you or make you. Sony. The guys with Michael Jackson killed him off. You've got. You play with the game.

Michael Jackson was killed off?

Yeah. I truly believe when he owned half of Sony label and they couldn't control him. And Sony's a big. He owned literally Beyonce's catalog, Jay Z, the Beatles.

That was smart business.

And all of a sudden he didn't play ball. Okay, you're a pedophile wins a case. You're this, you're that. Suddenly he's addict to drugs. Suddenly they, you know, then he dies. And guess what? The catalog's up for, up for grabs again. It's control. I truly believe as soon as he started talking about people controlling things, Sony went against him. As soon as he went against Sony, these pedophile allegations came. He was watched by the FBI. If you look into his case, I think seven to 10 years. Monitored, tabbed, recorded his whole house, whatever, and not one bit of evidence. If you're a nonce, it's gonna. Something's gonna come out. You're gonna see something on a computer or something, not one thing. And you're monitored by the FBI. That says it all, do you mean? But these allegations come, even that Jordan Chandler came out when his dad died and said, I was told by my dad to do it. So I truly believe, when they want to get you, they want to get you, he will say, oh, it's conspiracy. But no, look at Epstein's Island. That's what they all mean. And then again, suddenly, he commits suicide, breaks his own neck. He had this list of who's who. It's messy. It's all messy. And it's always.

So you don't think that was suicide, Epstein? No, he was taken out, definitely.

I think he had too much information of people then when it comes to that, then you've got to go, there's always a bigger boss out there. And there, certain people run it, these banks and these institutions. And you can see, like I said, there's that quote on social media. It's a bit corny, but it's. You want to know who rules, Try and cuss to certain people. When you get lash, when you get hit back, then, you know.

Right.

So, I mean, do you think the.

Same thing's happening to Andrew Tate? He thinks, doesn't he?

Yeah. He's always said the Matrix. I think the words are Zionist. And I think, look, I mean, whatever. You might be a support of Elon Musk, I love his cars. I'm gonna lie. I think he's one of the smartest guys of this century. He's amazing at what he does. Yeah, but where'd you get the ball? Like, you are not even American, you're South African. How can you discuss. I don't like Keir Starmer. I think he's a clown. But how can a guy from another country tell you what to do in your country? You know what I mean? Yeah, it's like imagine, yeah, it's like Derek Chisora commenting on social media about Trump or Biden making a big campaign or a big influence, say, for in Ukraine. Just unheard of. They'd be like, who are you talking about? Where does he get the balls to do that? Like, why do they feel like they have to control the British?

Why is he so interested?

Why? Yeah, it's weird. And all of a sudden, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Yeah, it's something weird going on there. I don't get it. Kema, he's a clown. We know this, but let the British public decide. Let the British public have another general election and decide who's there. Why does an American have to have an input? I don't get that and I don't get the. Why the Americans do that. Everywhere they go in the world, they have to have an input of who's there, who's not. You're good. We love you. Saddam. No, I'm going to kill you. Because after your call, we loved you Taliban, we're going to make you beat the Soviets now. We hate your terrorists. Kill. That's what they do. And they always bring the British along. Say, you've got to help us and you've got to put your army there. And the British go, yeah, okay, why? Why? They need to, they've got to just say stop. Let's. Why doesn't Britain look after its own people? Look, people are suffering now as a winter. It's going to be a very hard winter in the uk. Look after own people. They're suffering them spending this on things. That's why I love it here, because they look after their own people. They don't care about the world. They're going, we're going to make this country the best. We're going to get the most opportunities. That's what every country should do. And just have peace talks and whatever. That's how everyone should be. Yeah, it's true.

Mad world, isn't it?

It's true. But it's just. Why, what makes them have to say to me, delegate what they can do there, you know?

Yeah.

And this anti Islamic thing was going around, Alex, if it is not for the Arab invasion, every summer in London, London will be bankrupt. The Harrods is the Scotland Yards. Who owns all this? It's Arab invasion. They could all right off. You don't like me, I'm gonna go, we're gonna spend it somewhere else. We need that money.

Yeah.

So let's thank God that these cultures do come in these religions. It makes the place boom. Without it, it's suffering. No one's got money.

Yeah.

All the trade's gone. Yeah.

Wow.

This is gone.

Yeah. Should we move into the fight game? Talk about the fight game. Thank you.

Before a Zionist hits us for the, for the windows. Yeah. Is this really our water?

So I want to start with Jake Paul. He's been, he's been on my show and at first I was, I was sort of a fan because I like disruption. And you know, he can sell a fight.

Yeah, yeah.

And I thought this disruption could be good and there's opportunity. And then after his like fifth shit fight, which looked staged and there was no entertainment factor and that's what it's supposed to be. I understand. A Real fighter not swinging.

Yeah.

From round one you can die. But, you know, I, I know some very famous boxers in the UK who are convinced that was just a stage fight. It was in the contract. Tyson's going to lose the fight, I'm going to win the fight. I don't know, I'm not in the game. But I just think now it's a piss take and there's like people are getting mugged off, paying all this money and he's making tens, hundreds of millions and I'm an entrepreneur and I came from nothing and earned it and didn't get given to me me. So I really respect anyone who does that. But now I have just really mugging us off and he thinks we're all stupid idiots and there's no entertainment in these fights.

But did you tune in?

No. Did I? No, no. I think if I ever. If I haven't.

If you're watching a time fight.

No, no. Because otherwise I'm a hypocrite.

Yeah. I'm impressed though. I'm impressed because a lot of people did tune in.

Look, no, so I like, I'm not. If I don't like the BBC, don't pay the BBC.

I respect that. I respect that, that. Because a lot of people say that they still tune in. Like. No, it's. Look, I've met Jake, I know his manager Nakisa very well and I really like the guy.

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I don't think it's stage. No, but what we. What we fooling ourselves for? Mike Tyson, LE60, who thought he was going to win. Let's be logical.

Did you not see him? He still got it. Those.

I can make a 10 second reel on you now and you look like Bruce.

Muhammad Ali, mate. I'll pay you for that.

Bruce. I'm hard. Muhammad Ali pay you for that? I'm telling you now, it's all editing. Let's. All we saw was 10 seconds on the pad. B, B B B. I met Mike Tice. I went to dinner with him 2018 or 17 and he was walking a certain way then. It's like saying Hulk Hogan's hard now. Like, I mean I loved Hulk. I love. It's like, yeah, we're from that era so we have that nostalgia. Right? Yeah, I'm the same. I met Arnie in America and for me it's the first time ever I've been like, whoa, a bit starstruck. It's Arnie. I still waits because of you. Yeah, I'll be back. It's Arnie. But then you see him and you see he's old.

Yeah.

People don't age. You don't think they're going to age. They're unlimited you because we're around that pop culture. Mike Tyson's at least 60, man, hasn't fought in what, 15 years.

Yeah.

And his last five fights were losses and never trained. And he smokes weed. What do you expect? I know we wanted to believe it, but let's be gotta be real against the kid who's 20 something years old.

Yeah.

Big guy, big neck, young, trains all his life, trains every day of his life. Has the best nutrition, this and that and all he's doing. And he's a bigger guy.

Yeah.

What do you expect? I know whether you respect him or not, we're not talking about his skills.

I respect him by the world class.

He's not a Canelo. He's not a better beer. He's not going to be that. No, but it was an entertainment thing. It wasn't two minutes.

But was it an entertainment thing?

No, it was lackluster. It was really lackluster. No, don't get me wrong, but one.

Is, one is fine. But the last few have all been the same because the Tommy fight was really lackluster.

Yeah, it was. But then again, why don't we blame Tommy Fury when he's a boxer from the fighting family and he, he couldn't finish Jake Paul, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I do.

So.

But I guess it might a lot of pressure.

As a boxing fan. I get it. And I totally get in. Like, I even put on social media fights and when you watch him, you're thinking, oh, but anyone out there thinking Tyson was gonna win is like, come on. Like he's 60 years old, man. Like where we're from in our real lives. I know we think he's unstoppable, but 60, 60?

Yeah.

When I was young, we thought. I thought 40 was off. Now I think 40 year old. Yeah. 60, man. Come on. Most of my grandparents died in their 60s.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

I do.

You can take all you want, but we. They sold it like they wanted to. Netflix did a Great job. Their PR, the 10 second pad video. But that's all it was. I'm in that world of social media. I know, like, I can make myself look good for 10 seconds. Any in anything. So.

Right.

It was like that. Yeah, I get it. But I. I think boxing enthusiasts don't watch. If you don't like it, do not watch it. Yeah, but he's appealing to that kind of social media world. That younger, different generation who don't even know Mike Tyson. No, a lot of people know Mike Tyson because of Jake Paul. Now that's crazy, right? Imagine Logan Paul. People won't know the ultimate warrior and break the Hitman heart, but they'll know Logan Paul in wwe. The world's changed. Look at Prime. It's a drink by two YouTubers. But look at the numbers it's doing because of them. The generations are changed, man. We're older, we don't. We don't want to pay for them. If our kids want it, we'll pay.

Yeah.

It's a different generation, different demographic, life change. Social media is the world. Mr. Beast and all this. I know back in the day, for me, celebs were Michael Jackson, Stallone, Madonna, Robert De Niro, you know, they're celebs. But now it's all different. Anyone? Like, it's social media, so unfortunately, I get what you're saying, but that's the world we live in.

Yeah.

If you want real fights, Turkey, I'll shatter Riyadh. Season, watch ufc. They're the real, the real competitive fights. If you want entertainment and that then you will shake Paul. Everyone's got their choice. But yeah, you're coming from a fighting aspect and the background of watching those young fights and guys used to love having those wars. Yeah, I knew it won't be that.

Yeah, but it's supposed to be entertainment and it's like what's entertaining is selling the fight. The fights aren't entertaining.

They're not. Yeah, I'll get you that. It's all the, it's that go in.

And entertain us then it's all the build up videos. Cuz in the end we're just going to go, oh, you're just hyping it. The fight will be. We want to.

I think you need a good dance partner and I think unfortunately Mike Tyson's age did show. I think it was that. I think if Tyson like they thought he'd be in his 40s. The 40s, Mike Tyson even 30s, swinging for the fences coming from then. Yeah. But would you expect this like me. How old's your granddad?

Both mine are well all right.

So like one of the. It's like me find their granddad today in mma. Yeah, what'd you expect? Yeah, my Tyson granddad, isn't he. I think he's a grandfather. Yeah, he's a grandfather. I mean like what you expect. Like I was telling everyone, I tuned in, actually I tuned in on my. It's on my phone. But that's what it is. It's become that. It's a business now. It's not like the old days. It's not like you could watch Eubank and Ben. Ah, you bank and bear Haggles, you've got now.

It's just Eubank's been on the show, he was gold on the show.

And yeah, they're legends and that's what we were raised around. But nowadays whoever's got the biggest social media following, who. It's not always the most talented fighter you see, it's who can sell the fight. It's changed, the game's changed. And in MMA is the same in all aspects. If you've got a good following, you can go to dagestar now. Find 100 world champions. Yeah, big beards, cauliflower. But they don't speak English. They won't sign them. But they'd rather sign a guy who's cheeky talking. Sells fights, makes headlines. That's what sells pay per views. Yes. Who's a pay per view star there's none. And how McGregor, there's about 3 pay per view stars now.

How do you feel about that in the fight game yourself?

I get it. As a. I'm a promoter too, so I get it. You want to sell because what's going to make me get all of you guys to buy tickets to come the show? What is going to be. You're not going to know that. Why not? He's not famous. It's famous. You've got to build a storyline. Yeah. Do you see a greater that? They do these narratives. They do the Ultima Fighter. They do countdown shows. You have to build a storyline so the customer consumer feels associated. Mom. Dali started it all. Yes, he started it. Then you got the Prince Nazim.

You've got even wwe. They're brilliant. Aren't they selling the story.

We know it's fake. You still watch it?

Yeah, yeah.

It's. That's more entertaining sometimes, you know, it's faking. Oh, still chair. It's fake. But you watch it. I used to watch it. So it's sports entertainment and the world's always like, people want to escape from reality. That's why they watch movies, that's why they watch TV shows, that's why they listen to music. It's escapism. And that's what sport is as well. You can say all you want, it's escapism. Football. You have hooligans who are more emotionally attached to a bloody football team than their wife. You can rob their milk off their doorstep if mill will lose. Come on in. It's like, come on, man. Does a defender know your name? No.

Yeah.

It's just. It's entertainment. They feel that association, that like, you know, that feeling of being welcomed in something. So that's all it is. And yeah, the older you get, the more you realize it, you know? Yeah.

And. And you're in the fight game, but you're also a promoter. So you see, I see that side of it.

I promoted Chosen. When you're trying to get tickets sold.

In this and it's hard, isn't it?

You realize then you've got to put the pantomime on.

Yeah.

The fake scuffles. Literally a lot of it staged. A lot of the scuffles and the beef is all staged, I'm telling you. Yeah.

Yeah.

It's like I work with a lot of YouTubers and social media influencers and I've managed many. And I used to think all These pranks on YouTube are real. They're all fake. I used to Literally watch them and laugh. That 99 staged. It's crazy.

Does that not make us idiots?

Yeah, but again, it's escapism in it.

Right?

It's like escapism. It's like, you know what?

You don't feel mugged off by all that.

You just feel. Because we see so much on the news and depression and ex. I just want to get away from all that and just laugh for a minute. Yeah. And men's thinking spaces on the toilet. They're on. The phone's up. Let's be honest. Every man's on the toilet. Like, yep, you want to catch a funk on me. I'm on the shooter. And that's where they'll watch it all. Like, I watch serial killer documentaries. I don't know why. I just watch a lot of these criminal things and people are. You know what that means? That's not. I just like watching true stories documentaries. But everyone likes watching pranks. Some watch animal programs and pets falling over a Hoover.

Yeah.

We were younger Beatles about. What was Beatles about? Or was it you've been framed?

Yes.

What was that show about? Yeah, that was the first YouTube home video.

Yeah.

And that was a bigger show on tv. So it's always been there. People just want to watch that game show and escape and that's all it is from the stresses of pain.

Bill, do you think Conor McGregor will come back and have a fight?

I think he will, yeah. I think Conor McGar's still the biggest star in the UFC.

Is he like the best seller of a fight, like maybe ever in the. In mixed martial arts?

Probably by far, yeah.

And I mean, I'm the top three highest pay per views ever.

Him, easy. I mean, it's always him, I think, in all sport right now. I think now Mayweather's gone, it's got to be. McGregor's the biggest pay per view star. I don't know anyone in boxing who does the numbers. McGregor does.

Yeah.

I mean, who in boxing does a million pay per views apart from youtubers? I don't think that anyone does. Do they? Yeah.

I don't know.

Looking at stats. Oh, yeah. McGregor, I think he'll do it. I think UFC needing. But again, do they UFC. Dana White, so sharp, he made two. Ortiz, he made Ronda Rousey, he got Brock Lesnar. And I think you'll find another star. Yeah. They've got a great PR machine. But I think he'll fight again. He's still young, still in shape. And obviously the controversy lately, it will still sell because he's coming from that. Yeah, those allegations. So, I mean, Mike Tyson came back from it, so why can't Connor?

And do you think he's still got it in him to be a champion? Do you think he's too distracted?

It's hard to say. Depend. It's all about the management, how you manage a fight. So who you fight and which avenue you take. Like Jon Jones came back and beat, I think Sergan for the belt or who was at Stipe. No, but the first title he won was from Sil Garne. So if you. There's ways to do it. There is ways, if you're smart.

But does Conor, I mean, he makes out or just fight. Anyone does. Is that true?

I mean, I think he'd fight anyone, but beating anyone's another thing, you know, I think his peak's gone. It's not only. It's not that he can't. You have to be active in this sport. It's a young man's sport. You've got to live the lifestyle. He looks like he enjoys extracurricular activities too much and that wears down on you. Look at Ricky Hatton, look at Tyson Fury, look at Mike Tyson. This is what wore them down. Yeah, it's those other activities. The body is like a car engine. You can't speed without gas all the time. It's gonna destroy the engine and the body's like that. So it catches up on you, you know? Yeah. And I think the night Khabib beat him, I think that broke Connor for a life, you can say. I don't think people accept it, but that night was the end.

Which one? Sorry?

The Khabib fight? Yeah. Mentally, physically, in every angle.

Yeah.

That was just like game, set and match. I think it's a very hard to come back from that mentally, you know, but.

Yeah. Why?

Because it was the whole beat build up. The way Khabib kept saying, I'm going to smash your boy. The way he beat him in the ring, dominated him. Then he jumped his corner the whole A to Z. The way Khabib came across like a superstar that day literally changed the game forever. It was like not only you've been beaten up, then you've got jumped afterwards and you've got your corner jumped. And then like, it's like, what is going on? You know? And Khabib become a mega star after that. Mega star, so. And then as you see him with Vladimir Putin and then Donald Trump comes up to him and says, he's my favorite fighter, so.

Wow.

It's hard to take Especially when you've got a real rivalry with someone and you see that mentally, it will do you in.

It will, yeah. And do you still train a lot yourself?

Yeah, I train here and there. I just, you know, like I said, I love those deliveries of smart Mars bars and Snickers at night. Dubai's food's the best. And when you've got kids and you've got kids who don't finish their food, I'm the dustbin. So I love training, I love the gym. Whatever happens, it's like I don't even have to be. It's like the barbershop, you know, when you're going to catch up what's going on in the world and seeing people. So, yeah, I still train and I like to be around the top fighters when they're training camps and stuff. So, yeah, when it comes out here, I just. I love watching greatness and in person, you know, I appreciate how good some talent is. And, yeah, to watch him and do his camps and help, it's just phenomenal. You know, I really admire the most elite sport. I love watching elite sport to this day, whatever it is, I love watching it. Except for darts, I love watching it.

Yeah. So who's the greatest sports person anywhere ever that you've ever watched? Who is the goat of all time?

Not that I watched him live, but for me, the goat's Muhammad Ali. I never watched him live. But as in live, it's hard to say. I watched. I've watched Cristiano, in my opinion. But, yeah, for me, it's got to be. I'd say in my time, watching greatness live, it's got to be Khabib for now in all sport, the demeanor, it's not just. It's the whole presence, the professionalism, the character, the. How clinical he was, you know, and everything. You've got to admire it. Flawless, you know?

Yeah.

But I think Khamzat's on his way to be there as well. If he gets a belt. If Khamzak Chimai becomes world champ, he could be one of the greatest ever as well, in my opinion. It's just you have to. You have to be a world champion to say you're great. That's why I never say Christian is the greatest ever. He's never won the World Cup. For me, as Maradona, right, I think you, to be the world's the greatest in what you do, you have to have that title, in my opinion.

But they're in a team sport.

They are. But Maradona, I Mean, look at France. We never used to rate France. Who ever rated France as a football team, tan.

They had a few more than Justini.

Yeah, no, I know when you say that, but he brought out. Okay, look at Napoli for Maradona. He, he took a team from Syria too, I think. Beat and win the European Cup.

Right.

And I'm saying, so I think greatness is greatness.

Yeah.

It's always that one play. I mean, look at the 86 World cup that you had the hand of God.

Yeah.

Look at the second goal. Yeah. When you, that's one man.

Took the whole of England out.

Yeah, that's one man. I think when you're great, you're great. I, I truly believe you. You, you delegate. You're a leader.

Yeah.

Zidane, two goals in the final. World Cup 94 was it, I think when they won in 98, two goals. He scored the two headers in the final.

Yeah.

So he led by example, like we say, the team. Because he shunned the team, you know.

Yeah.

So I truly believe when you're that good, right, you can bring it out. Renault is amazing. But I still believe the World cup is World Cup. That's why Messi, you know, the last one, look at Messi, how he performed. Yeah, it's greatness comes out in those moments, in my opinion, like when Khabib had all that pressure with Conor, this and that. That's when the greatness comes out. Like all the pressure. The whole world, Muslim world, saying you've got to win. He's disrespected us. The pressure that guy had on his back to come out and do that against a guy, Connor, who's used to the lights. Yeah, been there, done that. Double champ, Muhammad Ali. The pressure in Zaire, it's pressure against a young guy who knocks out everyone. You're fighting in Africa, the host shows for you against a guy, you've come off a loss, you've been in jail for three years or whatever, off a break. That's when greatness comes out.

Do you think the sacrifice for greatness is worth it? Because often with greatness there is big time downside. Like Michael Jackson, for example. I mean, is there a better musician that's ever been, ever lived than Michael Jackson?

I don't think even in entertainment in any way.

And talent wise, look what it cost him. And often this is a big cost of greatness, isn't there?

I think when they're that great as well, they're always a bit. They're not normal, as in, I Don't disrespectful. They're not.

Well, no, you're average. How can you be great and normal?

You can't, you can't. You've got to be like people. Like, we're older, we realize. People say, oh, this guy's famous, that guy. Mr. Beast. I'm like, listen, if Michael Jackson is. They turned up to a mall, they shut them all down. No.

Yeah, they were.

I drove past Madden Swords as a kid. My dad. And we asked him, what's this commotion? Literally the whole road, they got Michael Jackson's inside, like I'm telling you. So we parked up at the Dorchester. I got. I want to meet him, I want to meet him. And literally in minutes, it was about a hundred thousand people and all you saw was a hand wave out of a car and people screaming, collapsing, chasing the van. Yeah, it was literally, what is going on? That was Michael Jackson. That is like the Stallones or the Madonnas, whatever.

Yeah.

So. Yeah, but they're all quirky, they're a bit weird. Look at talent, look at Amy Winehouse, look at Kanye West. They say, look how they add. I think it's art in a way. And there's. It's just them. Look at Muhammad Ali. The sacrifice he took to be what he was in a time. People say, oh, I can't stand up to Zionism. I'm scared to lose my job. Muhammad Ali stood up against racism when he could have been lynched. He said no to go in the army. Imagine in those days, he could have been lynched. People were, they'd still have signs, no niggers allowed in cafes. That's how racist it was. He couldn't even drink water out of the same place a white man was drinking, drinking. He came back a gold medalist and they. They won't let him sit in a coffee shop. That's Muhammad Ali. So these guys were born with gifts. Do you mean black people are on mtv only because of Michael Jackson. He had to lie and record. He made this song Beat it. And he said it was a rocks music rock song by Eddie Van Halen. He tricked MTV and he opened the doors for black people to have their music shown on music video. So without these people, they paved the way. So they are in their. What they did was great in their time, you know, so you have to respect them because the risks they took to stand up, they were real men. Not like. Then you got people like Mayweather just talking about money and that. You can't compare. You had Muhammad Ali here, then you Got Floyd Mayweather, like, it's just great boxer, but a complete clown. A complete clown.

He's been on the show twice.

A guy who's an African American comes from a descendants of slavery the probably in my opinion technically the best boxer ever. I. His boxing is unbelievable then yet kisses Zionist ass just for cash. Like, you're like a country who's, who's like. Like a country who's doing the same that was done to black Americans and you're supporting them. That's why Israel, he goes, israel kisses Israeli ass. And it's just I lost so much respect when I saw that. I'm thinking you are like they say, an Uncle Tom. They used to call these. The black people used to kiss the slave master's ass in the old day. Uncle Tom, like Ali used to call Frazier, he's Uncle Tom. And now I lost the respect. When I see someone's character, the respect goes, you know, I like people like you said, revolutionaries, the ones who change the game. The Muhammad Ali's, the Michael Jackson's, the whoever. I like the Kanye's, I like Mel Gibbs. I like people who are not afraid even if I agree with it or not. I like people who stand for what? If you truly stand for what you believe and you're not sold, I respect that. Even if it's against my belief, I'll be like, you know, I rate at least you're doing what you're doing. You know, I can't stand this kind of mentality. It's just. No, it's not how world was built, how the world was made, you know.

So you must have loads of young lads come to your gym. What do you think is the state of masculinity right now? And how would you help young men who are maybe a bit lost? What would you say?

See? Masculine. Just be yourself. Look, not everyone has to go to a gym and go, I'm hard, I'm tough. Masculinity, I'm this that there's nothing wrong if you like Harry Pot. There's nothing wrong with those kids who want to be a bit soft. There's nothing wrong. We've put this new thing where everyone's got to be wearing a suit. Yeah, I like to do push ups. Taste my brother and I love what he's doing. But you don't have. Not everyone's gonna be that. Yeah, everyone's genetical make genetical makeup's not the same. I, I, me, if I wear a suit, I look like a bouncer. I don't look smart. Number one, you'll be like, yeah. Excuse me, can I get in?

Yeah.

So just be yourself.

But that's hard, though, isn't to be yourself. That takes courage, it takes hope.

But be yourself. Don't chase this. Like, what is wrong with liking whatever you like or being an artist, whatever they want to do. Don't feel like you have to be the next Andrew Tate or the next Donald Trump or whatever. There's nothing wrong with being different. Don't let society change. If you're not going to get the girl, that girl, who cares if she just wants that Chanel lifestyle, that's not for you. There's always someone for you. You'll find that. Don't feel pressured. That's why I say social media is making everyone feel pressured to have to have the muscles be hard. It's all bs, man. Half these people, they can't even fight this over life. I see them, they come with the big guys, the ones with the suits, and they come in, yeah, like, I'm a. I'm a high. What's a high value man? High value. This gay alpha. I'm an alpha.

How sigma now.

I mean, high value male is so gay.

Like, sick in my mouth hearing that.

Myon. I get on with me. He's a nice. Has gone a while. But when I see the. That Fresh and Fit podcast and they're dising women, of course, they're all like, strippers. Like, you haven't got J.K. rowling sitting there. You've got Diki from the strip. Like, what is she. She doesn't know what day it is. And I'm not watching this thinking. And I do watch it. My run's funny and stuff, but it's just degeneracy. Like, there's so many intellectual. Like, there's so many different things out there and they're all pressured. That's why I say social media is so dangerous. Now. We're at a point where everyone wants to be Kim Kardashian. Everyone wants a Chanel bag, Everyone wants to be on that private jet. Every guy wants to be Andrew Tate or Iman Gadzi and this and that. Be yourself and just do what you enjoy. Because, like, you don't have to have six pack if you don't want to be healthy, but don't have. What's a six pack mean? What does that all mean? Like, what. What's it going to get you? That means you're dissing prophets of the Bible and the Quran who didn't have that? Like, who defines what is a high value man? Who defines what is, what is? Like what is the target? Who defines what the target is? Who? You. Yeah, you make your own. Yeah. So who are you following? What you're into? You're into like. Some kids might like Harry, but I remember when I was younger, they used to go to us paint those war kind of. What was it?

Things like Warhammer.

Yeah, yeah. You have kids who'd sit there all day nowadays, if they do that, they'll probably beat them up. Yeah. You know, like that was a thing then. Remember? It was massive.

I do remember. Yeah.

My brother loved wwe. I just love that like some people like to box everything. Everyone had their own thing, you know, I mean, so there is no this masculinity. Just be a like, be what you can be. If it's not for you, Jim, and it's not for you, Martial arts, you don't need it. Not like when do you ever use boxing on the street? When am I going to use a double leg takedown? Where? Emirates Mall. Get out of the way. KFC and double leg. I'm not going to do it. What? I do it because I love that as a kid. I watch Rocky Balboa, I watched wwe, I watched Arnie. It made me want to be like that. That was how I was raised. My culture. My mom's gonna be strong muscles. That was it. My daughters are raised differently. They might like, I don't know, Paw Patrol. Everyone's different. The generation. Times change, you know, I mean, yeah, I can't go out. It means Nothing now being 6 foot 2 and big. Some kid will just stab you anyway. Yeah, no one gives a. We were younger. The craze. We're like, yeah, the craze. Pat Tate, Essex Boys. That was the culture. Goodfellas. It was cool. Like John Gotti. It's all changed now. So just be what you want to be and just don't get peer pressure and people respect originality and be yourself. So it's basically if you want to train, I say to young kids, if they want to be like that, be like that. Do it for your own self defense and confidence. Get in shape and you'll feel better, you'll feel more confident. Through martial arts. Yes, do it. It's great for kids. Discipline. I tell parents, but don't do it to be something you're not. This mass high value bollocks, man. It's. It's fake. This kind of whole red pill. This is gay. I can't. It's gayer than trans. They Dis track. But it's the same kind of gay for me. It's just gay. And I don't mean games or you're just. We use the word is gay. It's like a term we used to use. It's just cringey. I find it cringy. Yeah. A high value man and they've got this cheap three piece suit and they're going to. Where you go with that? To a shisha lounge. Just relax, wear what you want.

Yeah.

Do you mean.

Yeah.

People call me a bum. I wear TK shirts all the time. I wear what I want, I don't care. I do not give a. You know. And be healthy and just do what you got to do. Like society is this high value alpha male. It's all bollocks. Half these guys, if you say boo, they'll jump. If they're so high value, go in the army and fight in a war. I mean it's all bollocks. Go and do real man stuff. Don't talk about trading. Last night in XRP made me this and I'm a high value man. I got a Urus man. And tell these girls, half of these guys haven't even kissed the girl, bro. I'm telling you, they're bollocks. These guys are giving guys advice on women. Have you seen. Put them offline, get them away from that camera. Go into a nightclub like the old days and talk to a girl. They'll be like, hey, hey, I'm high. Val, you want to go for a ride like that? She'll be like, shut up. Like it's fake. It's. I can see it a mile off. Yeah, I laugh, but I'm just like, yeah, it's okay. It is what it is. Like, you know, if it works, it works for me. Respect the elders, just be a good person. Respect elders, respect cultures, respect people. Do what you've got to do. Respect the laws of land, look after those less fortunate and just be a good person. That's it. And being a good person, smile to everyone and be nice and just follow the ways of the prophet. Peace beyond or whatever you believe. That's it. That is it. And maybe I've got wise. I was a bastard when I was young. I was a bit of a bully, but you get wiser when you're older.

Do you regret that? Being a bully?

Yeah, because I, I don't. I hate bullies. I hate that stuff. But you're great. But I had to be a bully. I was only a brown face. I was the Only brown face in my area. If I wasn't a bully I would have been bullied.

Right?

Yeah, yeah. First day you hair packing as you have to be this because people didn't know what I was. I've got a big nose and lips. They're like is he mixed race or is he. What is he? So I mean they couldn't figure me out and. And a lot of the time when I was younger it wasn't even. And the people get angry with me. A lot of fellow Asians they weren't racist. And when I was younger Paki shop was a name. I'm going down the packy shop. No one knew what they didn't mean the intent. I was around these kids council state. They didn't really, you know it wasn't you are brown packy boss or you're a Muslim scammer, you're this. It was just ah. You know. But then I got to age where like don't use that word anymore and like I got respect. But it was a culture people not educated. So half the time is miseducation, you know, non education on people. Why they act like that. A lot of these things you see in these rivalries, these race wars and these riots. Look at the demographic. It's always lower income, not lack of education. It's all some reasons, let's be honest from the marches to this, that and it's easy to stir hatred with the people who are suffering because they want to. If you look at EDL or Britain's first look at all the members I guarantee like that and drunk halfway through breakfast. You're not going to get an intellect. There are. You're not going to get an OXA grad. It's like going to be like took our jobs. You did. I'm telling you. Ask them what's the capital of Wales and a lot of them struggle. It's the same as these people doing crimes in up north or they say grooming. They're. They're just degenerates from low income scumbags. They're just whatever race they will be, they'll be a degenerate. Whatever country you put them, they'll be a degenerate. We can't judge people on that. You can't. Like I tell my Muslim brothers, I say don't. You can't England. We can't dis. Do not diss the people. That country gave us opportunities and I always say Dubai is the best but England is the most free country on earth. You can be any culture Religion and practice and do your faith and no one question you. Prince William can get arrested for doing a crime. No other place in the world. That happens. So I. I love that about the uk, but it's just a crime and the punishment. Look at that stupid slag sleeping with an inmate in Wandsworth. She got arrested or something. Where in the world can you imagine going to Dubai jail and shagging award. It won't happen. It ain't happening. And it will be a small Bengali guy or something raping you. It ain't happening. Do you know what I mean? I'm like, they got TVs and they're playing music and they're doing raps and guys are celebs in jail. You know what you want to do? Keep a cell. No one comes out that cell. You sleep on the floor and you in the same cell and you have your food there. That's it. Watch. They'll never do crime again. Let police have arms. Let police beat people. Police ain't got power.

No.

I feel sorry for them. They're like, I see police. So police. When I see police now, I'm thinking, it's got to be a joke. Come here and try and say off to a policeman or do that. See what happens. You'll be like that next day. It won't happen in the uk. Yeah, off is my rights. They get the camera, mate. Where's the respect? Yeah, Teachers are getting attacked. When I was younger, I got told off by teacher. I had detention. My parents will come and tell the teacher to beat me up. They go, hit him. They're like, we don't do that, sir. No, no, hit him. It's all right. You got our permission. It's respect. My parents said, don't let you. It comes from the house. And nowadays you can't even tell your kid off. No kidneys therapy. Are you all right, Tommy? Are you feeling okay? I'm sorry I told you off. I'm sorry, but everything's going to be okay. That's how they talk to kids. How did it get. Look at me and I'm like, yeah, I do. Societies has gone back to my dad. Lack of fear of God. It used to be church of anything. It used to be people would go church. It would be religious. Everything came from religious values. Now no one cares. What is atheist like people? What's atheism? It's just your own rules. They don't believe anything. So then who decides what the rules are? If you don't let God decide who's. Who knows better the human race than the man who created the person that created this God. If you let men make rules, then you tell me one man's pedophiles, another man's. No, it's all right. Every country's got a different rule. So therefore, who's right, who's right? Yeah, man makes decisions. Next thing, mix toilets. I've got two daughters. You think I want my daughters going to toilets where a man looks like me with a wigs having a piss and goes, identifies a woman? Look at that. Imagine that.

I'm not even gonna picture it, you.

Know, like, that is what society is. No, it's their freedom. No, it's not. Sorry. It's. There's man and woman. There are some, I guess, hermaphrodite cases and God judges and let them get the help they need, but that is man and woman. Not even. Yeah, there's homosexuality and whatever. No problem. But just don't spread it. You've got. Like this for me. I don't want to see things push. Which are not natural. And that's it. If it was natural, you'd reproduce. I'm not trying to be offensive. The day you let that happen, the day you let transgenders, you'll see bestiality will be legal. You'll see pedophilia will be legal one day. Oh, they say it's consensual. So when people say, oh, it's consensual. Okay, then why don't. If a brother and sister want to each other, why can't they? If they both consent, they're adults, and they go, oh, yeah, it's consensual. Why not? Then? Where's the limit gonna be? Exhaust. Car exhaust. Soon. Like, there's no. We're animals, like, control. I'm a. I'm a Muslim. I'm married. You don't think people. I have temptations. When you see women and men. Women see men or whatever, you get tempted. But I'm not a dog. I'm not gonna go around everything. I know there's rules. I'm not allowed. It's a sin. I'm married. We're humans, but you control your. We're not. That's the difference between animals and humans. We control our emotions. If I'm angry, what's going to stop me from killing someone? It's my. I know it's not right, but the moment you take right and wrong, then there's, you know, I see these murderers and killers saying, oh, you know, I wasn't in the right frame of mind. Mentally gone and this and that. Just. Bro, it's all bollocks.

But they just can't control their emotions.

Yeah. Just. They don't care. They have no. They don't acknowledge anything. They don't care. They have no responsibility. They. For them, it's okay. What is. What am I scared of? A police gonna put me in a cell, have a tv, watch Sky News for rest of my life and a nice cell with a bed. I'm broke anyway. It's all good. Get three meals a day. It's not punishment. No. Bring them to the Middle east and see public hanging or lash them, then see if they stop. I really believe the world just. It's mad and I get scared. For the next generation, we. Our generation is still okay. But imagine 20 years, the way the west is going. They're probably like, I swear to you, the prime minister won't be tate. It'll be like a goat. And they'll say, the goat thinks this and we've put some system. And the goat says, bad. Everyone's gonna be banned. Like, I don't. It's just gone mad, man. I swear to you. I was in Hollywood West. I was in Beverly Hills in the summer, so went through West Hollywood driving. And literally it's 3pm in the afternoon with my kids and my wife in the car. And I look, right, And I just felt some guy in leather pants, jacked, doing this most. I don't even want to do it. Homosexual dance. Yeah, he had like the. Remember the gimp in a Pulp Fiction? He had this lever thing on. It's three in the after. He's on the thing. And I looked around, I was like, what is going on here? Some crazy gay bar. It's three in the afternoon and he's just this pro. Really gay dance. Right, right there. I'm in traffic and I'm telling my kids, look, look there, kids, look. Shrek's there. Snow White. Snow White. I'm like, please turn green. Please turn me. And it's not normal there. No one was bad. I'm like that, like in shock. Me and my wife, like, what is this world? It was literally like a movie. And I'm not saying hate this and that. I'm just saying, come on. There's no. It's just degeneracy. So open now. People just. People just wank in the street and spit and. And shagging in bus shelters. Where's the morals gone? In society, there's no morals. And when. When a society loses that, there's no hope, man. There's no morals, man. There's nothing. People don't care. Pete, I saw yesterday in Brent Cross, do you see him robbing the Apple shop?

Oh, yeah. Like a whole group of them, they have security.

Like, I feel sorry for the security guy. What's he gonna do? What's that poor guy gonna do?

Shouldn't do anything. They're gonna die over an iPhone.

There's couples, women with kids screaming because the guys just running with hoodies, like, what are you gonna do? Like, what a place. Brent Cross. Brent Cross for me was the ultimate. When I was younger, I used to go, brent Cr. That's society, man. Do that in Dubai, see? Do that in Turkey. Do that in Moscow. Try in Moscow and see, see? And you'll never do it again, believe me.

So, wow.

So it's scary. That's why I say to people, go to countries where religion still is intact. Why is Russia so good? Because they're very Orthodox country, religion, morals matter. Like Eastern European areas. Look at the Middle East. You don't get that. You don't get that. There's many. There's more poor people here than in Britain. Trust me to go to labor camp. There's very, very poor people. But keep that next to them, no one will touch it because they fear God and they fear the consequences. So. So important man, morals and. Yeah. So unfortunately, I pray something happens and there's a reset button and it goes back to the old days where a bit of toughness comes. Like Maggie Thatcher kind of style. Yeah, a bit tough, but, you know, like, you know, I mean, not by her, what she did and stuff, but as in like a tough iron fist. You need it. Yeah, you need the iron fist. I believe you always want a strong leader in any country like Trump. Like, I think what everyone says. But Americans vote for him because they believe he'll bring a bit of normality. Whether I agree with certain views. Not about. But as an American, if I was American, I'd want Trump for sure. Because he's like, there's man and woman, there's this, there's that. Unemployment is going to go, you know, look after the country and the country will be happier and they'll. Normality is so important. This is in. It's not normal what's going on. No, it's not.

What's a secret you've never shared or a story you've never told?

It's hard to say more because, you know, there's a saying all the Muslims understand there. As a Muslim, we don't. Like, we don't discuss our sins because it collects more witnesses and we believe in the more witnesses, the more sinful. So it's something of shame. So it doesn't have to be a.

Sin though, does it?

Yeah, I'm an open book to be honest. Everyone knows me. I'm not one of those guys like that, you know. I'm not really the most exciting high value man as you all think. High value alpha. I'm just everyday kind of guy, same old. I'm very approachable and everything like that and just done. Not bad for a guy from Canvy island in Essex, a little small town. Done. Okay. And just. I'm blessed. Just alive. I'm blessed. My parents are alive. I'm blessed. I got two healthy daughters and I feel that God's tested me, giving me daughters. So it teaches me how to be a better man and how men should treat women. Like I'm all for showing respect to women because how would I like someone do that to my daughter, you know? So that's why I believe God and Allah's done that to me to show me now. Now's your test, son, boy, like whatever you call me, now's your test to be. You've got daughters. And how were you when you were younger how you treat women or be now? That's why I believe everything's for a reason and that's my reason to be a better example of man. So my daughters can one day say if someone comes from marriage. Well my dad said this is how your man should act. So it's very important everything happens for a reason.

Yeah.

I truly believe. I always thought I'd have sons and there'd be all those fighters running around. But I hope my daughters look like me with long hair so no men want to approach him on the street, have my face with a wig stuff for all. That means God forbid poor girls look as ugly as me. Yeah.

Would you agree there is no love quite like a man can have that he has for his daughter.

I've got a daughter.

I've got a son and a daughter and it's just a different kind.

It's deep and it makes you soft.

Yeah.

Do you know like I can't if.

In a good way soft.

But if I see kids, you want to cry when you watch these news programs or documentaries. I never was like that. Literally, like I, I could have serial watching serial killer movies and like yeah, it's nothing if I see animals die like Dr. Fussy Hachiko. Bro, I can't watch Hachiko and kids. It kills me.

Yeah.

I swear I saw that Syrian kid washed up by the shores in UK years back. That broke me because I had a nephew then. I was like, bro, that when I see these kids dying, it's not even about this is what's right and wrong. We have kids. These are someone's kids. Kids are innocent. It's so sick to see the old days war were men kill men in our religion probably said never harm women, children, trees, animals, nothing. This is the honor's gone. And as kids. Yeah but it's the. Like you said, the love is different. It's. They love the mum the most. Like mums are mums, but it's just this weird love. It makes you soft. It's different. It's like a part of you, you know, like you could have dogs, you could have pets, you could have nephews. But when you've got something's come from you, it's just. It's surreal, but it's unbelievable and it makes you closer to God because like I tell anyone, when you see your kids either sick or goes to a hospital and things, that's when you really truly, you pray. And a lot of people who are not Muslim or religious, that's when they go, well, is there something out there which can help me? I tell everyone's an atheist until the plane they're on is crashing. Right? Yeah. You know, until that plane's going down. And then atheist becomes a believer in God because there's a higher. It's just logical. There's something out there. We're not here for no reason. Everything's. We're too perfect of a creation. Look at the way the sun is in a certain distance. If it was any closer, we'd burn to death it was any further, you know? Yeah, everything's so perfect. That can't be by chance. It can't be. Look at the pregnancy. These things come out of a woman. When you have a kid, you're truly blessed and you believe in the creation of God. It's amazing. So I truly just for me, it just makes me more faith and more strength and more belief in God. And you know, it just really brings me close to God because every prayer I have, I have five times prayers for my parents, my mother, my father, my siblings and my kids and wife and just to be healthy. That's every prayer. It's not like some people, I want to be a millionaire. No, it's for their health and to be have good successful lives and healthy lives. And the rest comes later. So it humbles you, man. And yeah, daughters, actually, to the non Muslim viewers you got there, our Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, we call hadiths his sayings. And he said, the man who has three daughters and raises them well, or two daughters and dies with them, happy with him, will be granted heaven. Wow. That's how much of a reward it is to raise daughters. Because in the old, old days, people would bury daughters alive and I must have sons in all cultures, from the spot it was seen as, oh, it's weak. So he goes, the one who dies and they're happy with him, treats them fairly and justly and looks after them, will be granted heaven. He'll be like that. So that's the reward of having daughters in Islam, you know, it's powerful, isn't it? And they said, what if you have one daughter? He goes, a prophet would have said one as well. That's how much he adored. So three, two or even one, he would have said. And this is a authenticated hadith saying from the Prophet, peace be up. So that just goes to show the respect. Everyone goes, oh, we don't respect women. We say, heaven's under mother's feet. Our biggest scholar is the Prophet's wife, Aisham, you know, so people who don't know education, that's how much respect we have shown for women. And the Prophet, peace be his first wife, he worked for her, Khadijah, she was a successful businesswoman. So those who say we lock up women and that just look at our religion without bias and see how beautiful it is. And that's why I become more humble. It's because of my religion. It tells me, you're nothing. No one is above anyone. We're all the same. There's arrogance is a sin. So, you know, be confident, don't be arrogant. You know, so it humbles you. And I think especially when you have kids, you have to be like that because you can, you can't push your agenda on anyone. Kids pick up examples, they don't listen. It's what you do in it, you know, yeah, don't do that. They don't listen. But if you're an example, they just follow you. They copy what you do. And that's why I say everything starts from home. That's why you. Society is bad, because it starts from home. It's upbringing and that's so important.

And final question, what one thing would you change in the world that you think would do the best good?

I think truly, I honestly say have more people educated on the beautiful religion of Islam, not what you think is the perception. The beautiful religion of Islam. Don't let these idiots, the minority of attacks or scumbags give you judgment. Look at the beauty of the book. Because Islam is a final revelation from before. It was Judaism, Christianity and it was a final seal. God says I'm bringing the prophet so nobody can tamper with these books. And it's, it's, it's a legislation for everything from how to earn money to clean money to how to treat your wife, to treat your mother, everything. And if everyone true, if I don't even live like I should. If you truly live by the rules, everything will be good. You'd respect, you'd have no divorces. Everyone respect each other. Men won't fallen cake because we all blame women. But it's all the men who are running around having affairs and cheating. If a man was truly a strong man, women wouldn't be these what we say hoes. Because all women, it's up to the man to show respect. It's all these men who manipulate women. I honestly believe it starts from the man. We're the men, we're the ones who run society, they're the university. So if we truly everyone really looked into what, what is our purpose of life while we're here, then you come to religion, you say which religion is right. Look at all the scriptures, investigate, look into it and you see, there'll be a truth. And just really look into the beauty of it and the beauty of Prophet Muhammad. Peace be upon how he lived. Don't go by the sticking lines of how the west trying to tarnish his image to kill Islam. Look at how he was. He would smile at everyone, people would abuse him, curse him. He just smiled back, give charity. If everyone lived like that, there'd be no issues around. But no, unfortunately we don't know. I'm not even a percent of that. So that's why my advice would to be everyone. And you can say, oh, he's trying to promote this and I'm not. I'm just. If the best gift I can give anyone is to say come learn about Islam, that's a gift, it's priceless.

And where are you most active on socials? Where should people follow you?

I'm on a quite a few. I've got my guys in the corner like I'm on insta. A lot of the time I'm just selling packages and stuff. Follow me if you want, if you don't, I don't mind at all. I'm not gonna pressure into anything, but everything I do is genuine. I don't fake, I don't sell things, I don't sell lies.

No. And are all your social media handles your name? Tam Khan.

Yeah. Tam underscore Khan.

Yeah.

Because there's another Tam Khan out there who's a ghost account and I've tried to DM him for 10 years, he doesn't respond and that underscore ruins me. I think I'm actually a shadow band on Insta a lot, but you can find me on all these things. And I've got an app coming out very soon, so stay tuned.

What's the app?

It's going to be associate all my brands. Jim's going to do some Mastermind courses, some retreats, workshops, workouts, everything. So some really good things coming soon. So stay tuned for that. I'll be interested. Inshah.

I've really enjoyed this. Thanks for having me here at your gm. Thanks for the tour as well.

Yeah, it's my pleasure for coming. Yeah. And whole floor.

You've got the whole floor.

Yeah.

Haven't you, like, literally walked around.

It's different.

It's great.

It's a. It's more of a built a fitness community. You've got many nicer, flashier gyms, but I like to bring that you're in Dubai outdoors, that LA Gold Gym vibe, Muscle beach, and it's all in one and it's great. And honestly, I love the sport of MMA because it's brought me to places like sitting with you, to networking with celebs, politicians, and it's all actually thanks to Daniel Bazoto, the guy who my first coach and who brought me into the sport in Southend on Sea. He's still living there. If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be sitting here. So props to him as well. I always give props. Never forget where you came from and who helped you. Yeah, never forget.

Yeah. Thank you very much.

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