Live with Sarah Levis

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Sure.

Like I said, the rate— like I said a couple of minutes ago, I still— I'm, I'm Sarah Levis. I still am. Um, and this is, uh, Brad of, of Rolling With It, his, uh, his Substack here. Um, and I'm— it's, uh, really great to have him here. How, how are things going for you today, Brad?

Oh, pretty good. Peaceful day. Got, got rid of the mini human a little while ago, so I have Quiet apartment.

Ah, okay. How old is the mini human?

He just turned 11.

Oh, that's a, that's a fun age.

It's— he has too much energy. It's fun, but he has way too much energy for me.

That's, that's what I find with my, uh, I have a, a niece and a nephew that are 11 years old, and, and yes, that's, uh, energy. Yes. Definitely. Um, but, uh, we're, uh, we're here to— we're, we're here to have a chat about, uh, we get to know each other a little bit better and see what comes of it. Uh, um, uh, tell us a bit about yourself, Brad.

Uh, well, I'm, I'm ancient in internet terms, so I turned 44 a couple months ago in June. Old. I am autistic, which probably explains some of the weird things I talk about in my notes on Substack. And I have cerebral palsy, so I have a lot of mobility issues. I'm a giant nerd.

Me too.

I tend to be very sarcastic, and I'm deeply antisocial, so this is a little bit of a nerve-wracking situation for me, but I'll deal with it. That's fine. Being perceived is fine. Oh, hush. Amelia is telling you to hush.

Oh well. Yeah, ancient in internet terms, maybe. But, uh, but, uh, you, you and me are gonna jive just fine. I'm, uh, I'm 47, so you're, uh, you're the younger one.

And I'm pretty, pretty new to Substack. It's only been, what, 3 months? Like that since I joined Substack. So okay, well, still new to all of that. Figure I need to you know start doing lives and be perceived and interact with people. Otherwise, it's never gonna do anything, right? So gotta make it happen.

What was it about Substack that brought you here?

I don't even really. It was just a place to. that I could like put more long-form posts and also do like short-form things since Twitter is a hellscape and other social media just didn't really grab me ever. I never last on social media things, but you know, Substack seemed like a bunch of nerdy people that like to write and like, all right, I'll give that a try. And then it slowly started to build up as I Sort of talking about the guides and stuff that I've been making for the Spice Rack. It's sort of been snowballing a little bit, so who knows how long it'll last, but for now it's been great.

Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I kind of came to Substack for the same reason, and I love the community that I'm developing here, I guess, and that's encouraging me to push my antisocial limits a little bit.

Oh, it's Derek's birthday. Happy birthday, Derek.

Oh, happy, uh, happy birthday, Derek. Um, yeah, 40, 40 years old, just a, just a youngin'. Uh, Amelia, Amelia says, uh, tell us all about The Spice Rack, and that was going to be my next question.

Okay, well, the, I mean, The Spice Rack is a website and mostly an Etsy shop, but I made a website for it so that I would have a little more control about you know, design and things, but basically selling like guides and workbooks and things that I've been writing and building related to disability and kink and neurodivergence. So like the sort of a Venn diagram of kinky, horny people, disabled people, and neurodivergent people, and kind of finding that overlap. And it's a big overlap, weirdly. So it's been, it's been good so far.

It's been interesting. Yes, and that's, and that's what I— when I first read something from the Spice Rack, I thought, oh my goodness, here is somebody that gets it, that, and that, and is not afraid to talk about the idea that Disabled people can— gasp— have sexual lives.

Oh no, I can't think about that.

Because there seems to be this perception out there, and we talked a little bit before the live about my experience with this with developmentally disabled teens in the school that I worked at. There just seems to be this perception that Disabled people don't have sexual lives, not sexual people. Um, definitely Derek says no. Um, and, uh, yeah, it's just not, just not something, just not something that we do. Not something—

There's a lot of uses for shower benches and handholds, let's just put it that way.

Exactly.

Yeah, medical devices. And it's things with things rated to hold your entire body weight, you know, it's handy for a bunch of reasons.

And, and, you know, it— and if it— and if it can, why not use it for that? Right? Exactly.

But sometimes insurance even pay for it.

So, and that idea has always driven me nuts. And are you familiar with Dave Hinsberger at all?

Sounds familiar, but I'm not sure. My memory is Swiss cheese, so you'll have to remind me.

Maybe he wrote a— he wrote a guide, and I can send you the link to it. I think it's still available, called The Talk SC, which was about— which was a guide about sexual consent for And working with adults with developmental disabilities about learning consent.

That does sound familiar.

And it was— and I remember when it was released, it was so controversial at the time because— because why? Why would you need it?

Yeah, disabled people are supposed to be sitting at home staring at the wall doing nothing, right? If they can't work and they can't you know, do whatever. They gotta just be miserable all the time.

Yeah. Amelia says get that shit covered.

Yeah, if you can get anything covered by insurance, do it. Depending on where you are in the world and that your whole situation there, that can be tricky.

But, um, but, uh, but yeah, but, you know, and, and simultaneously, another, another advocate, uh, uh, that we talked about before, Andrew Kurza, was was writing about, uh, yes, um, orgies for disabled people, pretty much.

Why not? Why not?

And so that was the stuff I was reading as I was first coming into, you know, the disability rights, uh, the disability rights arena. And I thought, uh, and I thought, well, yeah, absolutely. Why, why are more people not talking about this. So, uh, um, and, uh, and yeah, and then to come on Substack and to find your, uh, your Substack and, uh, and the writing that you're doing and the, uh, and the guides that you're writing to for, uh, for kink, for, uh, for, for everybody, so that everybody can be involved.

That would be the hope.

I, I just, I think it's marvelous.

Well, thanks. It's definitely been interesting. You get some interesting comments. It's been good so far. The feedback has been pretty good so far overall, but definitely some weird comments now and then.

Yeah, I'm glad some— I'm glad to hear not, you know, not negative, not, you know, you're going to hell for writing this or anything like that.

Um, Baby Goose Reviews is just slightly biased. That's my girlfriend saying that I'm great. I don't, I don't know how that can be trusted, but the reviews on Etsy from strangers, those I guess are technically trustworthy.

So, oh, Baby Goose, I love it. Thank you for being here. Um, um, what was I saying? What I'm gonna say now? I'm distracted. Um, But yeah, obviously a lot of work still needs to be needs to be done in this area. Just and I'm anticipating that this will will be something that I that I come up with that I come up that that I'll have to work with with people when I'm doing coaching for people who have just. acquired disabilities, you know, is, is this something that can still be a part of my life? Is this— how will I manage it? And, and now I know that I have a good resource to go to.

Well, there you go.

But yeah, it's— and, and I guess another thing that came up for me around it, and I remember this from a blog post that I read, and I can't I wish I could remember what blog it was and who said it, but kind of the lack of boundaries around— for people who do believe it, kind of the lack of boundaries around it. Like the example that was cited was this young man in a wheelchair in a bar and And someone came up to him and said, "Can you have sex?" Yeah, people people are weird like that.

They they think they're owed answers to anything that pops into their head, even in public. Very strange.

And then like you know, and then how can you do it? And I was like, yeah, what? What? Who who asks?

People are weird about that kind of stuff. And I mean, about anything with a disabled person out in public, they'll ask any kind of weird thing. I don't get that too, too much. I don't go out in public that much, mind you. But yeah, every time someone has a weird question in public, it's always very strange because I could never have a thought pop into my head About a stranger I see in public, whatever their situation is, and they're like, I need to ask them this question right now. Like, I would never have that impulse in a million years. So I—

Yeah, exactly right. And Derek says a 6-year-old asked questions like that, right?

Yeah, that's fine. That's okay. I'll take questions from kids about disabilities. Yeah, whatever. That's, that's fine. But, you know, from adults, it gets weird real quick.

Mm-hmm. It's, uh, yeah, it's quite different then. And, uh, and that— and thankfully that's never happened to me. But, uh, I decided once I read that blog, if it ever did, if that, you know, when I walk, when I'm in public, I'm, I'm walking with a cane. That's— and sometimes people can see just on one look that I've got something going on with my arm. Sometimes they can't. It depends on how close they are. But, uh, um, if I ever got a question like, well, can you have sex and, uh, and, and how do you manage it? I'd be like, um, I'm, I'm way too much for you. Go away.

Right.

You just couldn't handle me, so we're not even gonna talk about it. Um, because seriously, how do you expect to— how do you expect people to respond? Um, When did you start writing these guides?

Uh, just a little bit before I joined Substack, uh, so probably like 4 months or so, maybe 5. Started researching stuff and like figuring out if it even made sense to write about it. And then I had to figure out how to make like fillable PDFs that I could customize. And it was, you know, it's a lot of research rabbit holes and stuff that turned into like, I need a project to learn how to do this thing. I might as well make a hopefully interesting guide out of it in the process. And then that snowballed into a bunch of very, very specific guides, especially with the neurodivergent stuff, like very thin slices of ultra-specific things, because it's just good for search terms. And neurodivergence is such a wide spectrum that like kink with an ADHD person, with an autistic person, or someone with PDA, whatever, can look very different. And, you know, some, some things overlap, some things really, really don't. So they got very specific very quickly.

Hello, Lisa Joy. Hello, uh, Sarah ASMR. Thank you for joining in. Um, so, so you've been, you've been working very hard on these.

I don't have a lot of other things going on. I don't have a life. My girlfriend is across the country, so I don't get to hang out with her nearly as much as I want. So I'm keeping myself busy.

And, and I can, I can relate to, I can relate to that too. In the, back in the days when I was blogging, and, uh, because, because no one in this town would hire me. Um, yep, just lots of writing because that's what I liked, and I was, uh, I was you know, minimally good at it. But, and, and, and how was the, how was the reception on Etsy? Are people buying?

It's been good. It's been, it's been slow building because it's very hard to advertise that kind of thing. You can't like have Google Ads, you can't, you know, it's, there's very thin places you can advertise. So most of it is just You know, through search engines and through Etsy, because Etsy's search, you know, algorithms allow things. So like, it is slowly building up. Uh, I'm at the point now where like, even last month it was like a guide sells like every couple of days, and now it's like 2 or 3 a day typically. So like, it's, it's growing. It's not like gone viral by any means. It's not paying the bills, but it's, you know, it is, it's growing slowly. So we'll see how it goes. It's been, it's been pretty good, and the reception is good. I think I'm at a 4.8 or 4.9 stars, something like that, on Etsy. Like, not, not 5, but close. But there's only been, I think, 8 or 9 reviews, so it's not like, you know, wide spectrum of reviews yet, but they've all been pretty good so far.

That's fabulous though.

You can advertise on FetLife, Amelia, but you have to do it like By the month, it's like a big chunk of money upfront for like a bunch of views. So it's, it's, they do it very differently over there because they don't have a lot of content restrictions, I guess. But, uh, I haven't gone that route yet. But if it gets into the budget where I can spend that much on advertising for a month, I might do it just for a month and see what happens. But I haven't yet. Because you can't, you can't do it like piece, like with Etsy. Basically, you only pay when somebody clicks, so it's, it's cheap as far as advertising. But with FetLife, I would have to dish out a big chunk upfront, and I don't have the budget for that yet.

But we'll see. What is FetLife?

FetLife is an online community for like kinksters. Okay, so it's, it's sort of like Facebook that you really, really don't want your parents on. To organize munches and share content about literally any kind of kinky-related thing with no content restrictions or anything. So it's very open, uh, which we— it would be good to be able to advertise there. I just haven't been able to justify the cost yet.

But you could go there.

I did set up an account, which was an interesting conversation with my girlfriend. By the way, I'm setting up a new FetLife account for business. It's for business, I swear.

Yeah, when when you make yourself a an official business, you can you can write that off. Any costs associated with that?

And and at tax time, the government will go, "Oh, look at this one." Yeah, I'm not sure what the tax write-off situation of that would I, but I have to look it up.

I haven't.

I haven't gotten quite to, to that point of trying to figure out what I can justify as a business write-off yet. It is technically a business though. I mean, I've been collecting taxes with Etsy and all that to keep— it hasn't been a year yet, so I don't know how that's gonna work out.

But yeah, it's, uh, you know, you, you needed to do business. It's marketing.

Definitely.

There you go.

Yeah, put it— putting your FetLife account as a business write-off could be interesting. I mean, you probably can. It would be marketing, I guess.

It would be marketing.

I'm not sure if they have specific restrictions against that kind of thing. There might be. Yeah, he even offered to give me the— I did. I mean, she could have the look. I mean, I don't really post on it other than like I made a new guide or whatever.

Transparency. I like it.

I'm not very sneaky, so it wouldn't work out. Create a 501. That, I mean, I don't— that could be interesting, a nonprofit situation. I mean, it is education, I guess. Might be able to find a category that it fits in. I feel like that is tricky when it comes to any sort of, you know, sex education related content. The, the rules get fuzzy. Even if technically it would be legal, they tend to not approve things. But I haven't looked into that yet. Might be worth it. Lots of disability education. I mean, yeah, it's, it's disability education. So like, there's probably a category that it would fit in. I just Don't know how strange that would look coming across somebody's desk for approval, but might be worth looking into.

Lots of things to— lots of things to think about. You know, you, you know that the, the, the Canada Revenue Agency is, uh, notoriously open-minded and flexible.

Sure, yes, definitely.

Yeah. Yep.

Anyway, anyway, I haven't dealt with much of that yet because it hasn't been long enough to actually do a tax year and stuff, but I'm sure when that comes around it could get interesting for sure. Keep all my receipts, I guess, and see what I can get away with.

Keep all your receipts. That's, uh, that's the key. So are there more of these guys in the works?

Yeah, I've got, I've got a couple. I try to keep like 2 or 3 that I'm like slowly poking at and researching and figuring out what I want to do. I tend to fall down autistic rabbit holes and get really obsessed about very niche things for a few days, a week, whatever, then come up with like just way too much stuff that I can't possibly even put in a guide, and then I have to figure out what makes sense to do. So I usually have at least a couple of things half-built, right? There's always gonna— I'm gonna try, at least for the foreseeable future, I guess, until I start running out of ideas, try to do one like every couple of weeks, maybe release one like every 2 or 3 weeks. So far I've been doing, you know, a couple every 2 weeks, and it's been slowing down. As I've, you know, gotten most of the main ideas, you know, covered and getting more and more specific with things and spacing them out a little bit more just to help Etsy keep the shop active kind of thing.

Right. You must have a writing and design background if you're doing this all yourself.

Uh, not so much design as the making the PDFs was definitely the part that was most out of my comfort zone of like figuring out how things should look, not have it be super boring. But writing, yeah, I've always, always done different— not this kind of writing, but like I've done fiction stuff. I have a couple things up on Kindle Unlimited.

Oh, okay.

And I've done like, in the past I did like game reviews for a few years, and I've done technical writing for like tech companies and stuff for documentation and like customer service related things, like not like writing, but not like books. And some of that translates into this like nonfiction, you know, education sort of stuff where it's not like I'm making it up, but I'm gathering a bunch of information and figuring out how to say it or whatever. So there's, there's some past experience there, but a lot of it is learn by doing and try to get beta readers to tell me why a thing I'm trying doesn't make any sense so that I can rewrite it.

Yeah, I can see what you mean.

I've got a couple of people now that I send new potential guides to, to get feedback and see how much they hate it. So far it's been helpful. It's definitely a work in progress where I've even updated some of the first couple of guides that I put out, like after getting feedback on them and stuff. So I'm always trying to improve things because I, I don't want to say I don't know what I'm doing, but it wouldn't be that inaccurate to say.

You're, you're still learning.

Yeah, Amelia was supposed to beta read something for me ages ago and she just kept getting distracted and then she went on vacation and it'll, it'll happen eventually. It's all good.

So yeah, that's— that sounds like you've got a lot of really great stuff going on. Keep posting.

It's been— it's been an adventure for sure. We'll see how it goes. I mean, if it keeps growing the way it's growing, it's gonna be essentially a full-time thing, you know, in the next couple of months here, hopefully. So we'll see how that goes.

And it— and that would be— that would be good for you? That would be something you want for it to be full-time?

It would be very— being able to pay the bills with that kind of stuff would be very, very nice. The budget is tight these days.

Yeah.

Oh, Amelia is asking if they're accessible for a screen reader. Mostly yes. It's a lot of fillable PDF forms, so I'm sure it's not super user-friendly on that because it would like take a lot of like clicking around to find what you want if you're using a screen reader because of all the fillable fields and things. But it like— I mostly, yes, I do want to work on making them more accessible and do like audio versions of things that make sense and like try to find different ways to make them more accessible because right now there's definitely like some barriers to it where it's, it's a lot of reading, it's a lot of fillable PDF, you know, forms and stuff that would require typing and so it's not, I wouldn't say fully accessible as much as I would like, but I want to lean more in that direction for sure. And audio versions is probably the next thing I'm gonna like try to figure out. Some of them, I don't know how that would work with audio, as like just a bunch of fillable forms without a lot of text. But like the, the guides that are mostly informational definitely could use audio versions.

I may have a, I may have a resource for you on learning about the, the standards for document accessibility. I don't know how much it is. I haven't I didn't look into price, but I'll send you, uh, I'll send you the link to it. Um, I don't think it's exorbitantly expensive for the course to learn about it, so I'll send that your way.

Yeah, I would definitely be interested. Like, like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be able to say honestly that they're accessible, but they're accessible-ish as far as PDFs go, at least. I do try to make sure that everything is properly labeled For screen reader capabilities and all of that. But it's not something that I've ever had to do in the past, so I'm sure it's not as amazing as it could be, for sure. Oh, and yeah, she's gonna learn to narrate audiobooks, so that's big. There we go. Maybe Sam will do some of the voice work for that.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, because I know there's a lot to document Accessibility. So yeah, and especially the PDF stuff. Um, I'll send that your way. Um, does anyone have any questions for Brad?

I guess we'll see.

Okay, while we're waiting for potential questions to come in, um, I, I wanna, I wanna tell people, I wanna tell that, I wanna tell people about how, uh, uh, Baby Goose says, uh, Baby Goose says that you need to plug your, uh, your Kindle Unlimited titles.

I mean, okay. Yeah, so those are more on the fiction side, and I use a, like, a pen name for it. If you search Amazon for FN Deep with an E at the end, you'll find— I think I have 7 or 8 short stories on there, short, like erotic fiction, like smut, silliness that lean into sort of comedy. Sort of stuff. It's very simple. There you go. Maybe just put it in the chat. If you search for that, they'll show up. They're just short little stories that you can get on Kindle Unlimited for free, or, you know, for like 99 cents or whatever it is.

And, and just my curiosity, because I put some stuff up on, uh, on Amazon Kindle at one point and I couldn't give it away, um, are you making any money off of them? Oh God, no.

I think it's been maybe many months, maybe a year. I'm not sure when exactly I put all of those up, but I think I've probably made $10, something like that. Like, technically I have made money, but the guides are doing a way better job. But the fiction is way sillier. So, you know, it's kind of— there's, there's fun balance to be had there, I guess.

I like silly. I'll go look for them. Um, Amelia asked, what, what got you into kink?

Uh, well, I didn't know that I was autistic at the time, but the directness, like, we're gonna negotiate what, what we're into, what we want, what we don't want, and we're gonna stick to the rules. with no, uh, sort of innuendo or metaphor or confusion trying to imply things, no subtext. Like, my autistic brain found that and latched on in a big, big way because dating in the quote-unquote normal world was not a good time for me back then.

Right.

So as soon as I found kink and like, like, oh, here's a list of what I'm into. If things match up, great. If not, on to the next thing with no, you know, no stress, no issues. Like, good or bad, like, this is what it is, cards on the table. Like, I was, I was big into that, and I didn't escape that world once I found it. And then years later, I found out that I was autistic. Like, okay, yeah, that tracks.

It's a great answer.

I think, and it seems like a pretty common thing, like the, the amount of neurodivergent people in the kink world is way higher than outside of it.

Right. Yeah. Well, yeah, it does. It makes total sense.

And same with disability, because it's like same issues, right? Like here, here is my list of things that I can do and want to do, and here's the list of things that I can't do. You know, find something that matches that and go to town, you know, and with no judgment about any of it. Like, the list is the list, you know, the requirements and the negotiation is just what it is. There's no, like, trying to wiggle out of things, like consent about everything is top priority, like, and so disabilities People with mobility issues or stamina issues or limb differences or anything like— you just got to find someone with compatible things and you're good. And so the world of kink kind of leans really hard into that, which makes it easy to find people, right?

For sure. Um, can I use that answer when people ask me?

You know everything.

I'll say, I, I stole this from a really smart guy, but here it is. Um, I'll put the call out again. Any, uh, any, any questions for Brad? Okay, then, then, then I'm gonna tell my, my funny story about, uh, my, my first, my first conversations with Brad. Um, it was when I was in, uh, I went, uh, I think most of my subscribers know that I went to Newfoundland earlier this summer to do some, uh, um, Family, family things. And oh, Amelia's back. What do you wish more people knew about kink and disabilities?

I think the big thing I would say that I wish people knew is just to be clear about your needs without trying to explain the reasons. Like, if you have a mobility issue or something, you can just talk about what you need because of that without being like, you know, here's my list of medications that I need to take. Or like, you don't have to disclose anything about the disability because it's not about the reasons why you want or need something. It's just the negotiation is the negotiation. Like, the list of your requirements is what it is. It doesn't matter what the reason is. People with kinks of all varieties are into different things, want different things, need different things, and the deep reason that they have for that is not actually relevant, typically. So like, you don't have to like be apologetic about needs or wants. You just— this is what you need, this is what you want, find someone compatible with that, and Go for it. There's no requirement to, like, I don't know, be weirdly apologetic about the reasons why you need a break or the reasons why you can't do certain positions or that, you know, you need a bench in the shower or whatever it is. Like, it's just not Relevant to explain your reasons of why you want something, typically. And people that really push on that and push on trying to, like, find middle ground with your requirements, like, that's a big red flag and kink, disability or otherwise. So, you know, like, okay, this is not a person that I want to be dealing with, regardless disability or not, or whatever the situation is.

Yeah, good for, good for everybody to know that, that what you need is what you need. And yeah, I like—

if you want to explain why, that's fine too, but generally in kink circles you don't really need to explain why because people like all kinds of very strange and interesting things, and they may or may not even know why they're into something or why they, they like when something happens or they don't like when something happens or whatever it is. And so explaining the underlying reasons just isn't generally a thing that happens unless you really get to know someone and like you want to talk about it, fine. But it's not generally something that comes up, you know, until you're— deep in a relationship with someone potentially. And you— and often doesn't at all. My camera died again. Doesn't usually come up if—

Now we know what camera you use.

Or just looking for a play partner or whatever. Yeah, it should come back up in a second here. I just restarted it. Maybe.

Yes, Amelia's written, me apologizing for everything. Yeah, that's, uh, that, that, that would have been me a while ago too.

All right, it says it's starting up, so it should be back. Yeah, there we go. Oh, you saw a momentary view of my messy apartment.

Oh, it wasn't that bad.

I'll die of embarrassment now.

And, uh, we have another question. What is your, uh, what is your goal for Substack?

We'll become rich and famous, right? That's why everybody joins Substack. It's something to do, a way to talk about the Guides, and a way to socialize with people, because I am very antisocial and I need, uh, social outlets, clearly. Otherwise, I might actually lose my mind. So it's mostly been an experiment to make myself be social, using the Guides as sort of having a reason so I'm not just like trying to be social for its own sake. I need, I need a goal or a project or something, or my brain can't do it. So that I'm sort of using that as the, as the reasoning to try to grow Substack. And so far it's been fun. So I mean, it's worked out pretty good, but it definitely started as like forcing myself to have a way to market the guides to see if it would do anything. And it turns out it's fun, and I like found some people I get along with, so bonus.

Oh, it's, it's good to know that you're, that you're, uh, you're, you're having fun. That's, uh, it's been great. And, uh, and, and sometimes you, uh, sometimes you even meet people that, uh, that, uh, you find out that you have links with that you never thought you would have, like, uh, And just, uh, just, just to finish my story, it, uh, I found out when, when I was talking about Newfoundland in my, my conversations with Brad that, uh, he actually knows the, the city that I was born in, in Newfoundland, which is, uh, um, which is a brand new experience for me. People ask me and I usually say, oh, I was born in Grand Falls.

That's it.

It's a little community in Newfoundland. He knew right away. And I was like, wow. And then I thought, yeah, we gotta talk.

Yeah. In that area.

Yeah.

So technically, I spent my summers in New Brunswick, but I did go to Newfoundland quite often.

Yeah. So that was my story. But, but, but I want to take it back to whether there are any more questions because, because it seems like there are still some coming up. So.

That was interesting meeting people that are from out east like that. It feels like there's only like 4 people that live out there, but then you just meet people randomly all across the country that are from— it's very strange.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Um, yeah, you say you're from Newfoundland and people are like, where? Yeah, the, the province so obscure that it has its own time zone. Yeah, 7 o'clock in Eastern Time, 7:30 Newfoundland time.

Um, what are they gonna do if we finally stop doing daylight savings?

I know, right? Well, it doesn't look like there are any more questions. Is there anything else you want to talk about, Brad?

I don't know, not, not specifically. I didn't know how this was going to go. I thought— I don't do lives or anything. I'll have to do more. This has been good so far, but I don't really have anything that I had planned that I needed to talk about. We can talk about the guides and all that.

So, all right. Nothing else you want to plug?

I already talked about my, my super secret pseudonym books that I write. So not really, you know, just want to check out spice-rack.guide, you know.

Absolutely.

What do you want from me? Always looking for feedback. So, you know, anybody with thoughts on what I should write about next, let me know. Things are getting very specific now.

Well, we'll probably end it here then. And, uh, thank you so much for, for coming on and, uh, for doing this. It's been, uh, it's been a real pleasure.

Thank you for having me. This was great.

Uh, and, uh, I hope you do— I hope you do more lives. I hope you don't, uh, I hope you don't stop accepting, um, invitations on account of this.

Well, this was good. I'll definitely do more.

And thank you so much to everyone in the chat for joining. I always love what people in the chat ask and what they contribute. And we'll be doing one again next week. I just have to figure out the timing with the other person involved, but it'll be a week from now. Thursday night, and it might have to be a little earlier. Might not be Thursday night; it might have to be a little earlier in the day because because she's in because she's in England. So, but but watch out for that announcement, and I hope to see all of you there. Thanks again, and we'll we'll we'll see y'all soon.

Thank you.

Thanks again, Brad. Bye bye.