The Scott Adams School - 04/24/26 BJ Dichter Joins Erica and Marcela.

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Is he?

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Instead of a creamer, you mean?

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Okay, wait, wait, wait. So you take a vanilla protein powder and you stir it into the coffee?

Yep. And then put a little bit of creamer as well, because the protein powder gets a little chunky and stuff. But if you do those two things together and you do like, you know, morning, I don't know, neat exercises, it'll make such a difference.

Marcela, look at both of our arms are out. We're both like this. Really?

You always can add an egg instead, you know.

No, yeah, an egg in your coffee, right?

We did just—

you know, I tried it. It was good.

It was.

Yeah, it doesn't taste at all like—

like you tried the one that we talked about last week, egg coffee.

I tried it.

Interesting. Did anyone else try it? Oh, everyone's so happy you're here, BJ.

I watch MS Now for you guys, and I also try egg coffee for you guys, so I do a lot for this.

Bless your soul.

For these—

I'm getting a couple of blah in the chat.

But before I forget, I know that we have BJ on the show, but if I forget, Spaces after party tomorrow, I'll be hosting it. Um, Owen is unable to be there. And, uh, I'll see you there at 7 in the morning, 10 AM, same time as, you know.

You're so devoted. Look at you, you're so early in California.

There may be— it may be 2 hours, it may be an hour, it may be 500 hours.

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So can I offer a reframe for short guys? And yeah, before I start, I'm average height. I'm 5'10" or 179 centimeters. But, uh, something I learned from somebody I know who is an MMA fighter and, uh, very much in that community, he, he explained to me a long time ago a few years ago, he said the really strong people, they're the short guys. Why? They have a low center of gravity. They're the most difficult to beat. They will tear your throat out in the octagon, sort of thing. And I think that's something that a lot— because a lot of short guys really get down on themselves, that, oh, I'm short, no woman's gonna like me. And maybe women too sometimes, oh, height is strength. It's actually the opposite. So for those of you who are single, who are younger, who are short, don't think you have a disadvantage. You just got to reframe it as absolute strength and make sure people understand what that is.

Well, Scott used to say, you know, look at me, you know, like, I, I didn't have the looks, I was short, you know. He's like, I knew I had to be rich. He was so funny. So he just, you know, he— it was a joke, but yeah, you know, so he's like, just be the best you, you could be, right? Like, get a talent stack, get some skills, learn, like, get your game going. And by the way, you could be 6'6" and hot and so unappealing for these chicks that are like, he's got to be over 6 feet tall. Go have a conversation with some of these people. If I gave you a list of the, the men that I found attractive, you guys would die. Like, if you saw— like, you would be like, okay, there's like not one not to be mean, but there's not like one stereotypical hot guy on there because the hotness only lasts for 2 seconds. You're like, all right, now what are we talking about? Are you funny? Are you smart? Do you have good ideas? How are you in public? You know, are you well groomed? I like, I like good hygiene. You know, these things are way more important than your height.

And it also can be a curse. You know, I had a friend for many years who was 6'10". Oh my God, what a curse. He couldn't fit anywhere. He could never find clothes. He was always uncomfortable. There's no car he could fit in. Uh, it was— I felt bad for him, you know.

So, um, Marcella, what do you think?

She likes the guys who are 6'10". I know, I could see the smile.

I've only dated guys that are 6 foot, uh, over 6 feet, but not on purpose.

There was my boyfriend in Germany, he was 6'11".

It was, uh, what I tell you, it was like I could see it, how your eyes lit up when I told that story.

It wasn't on purpose.

It was an accident that you found the tallest guy in the country, in all of Germany.

Yeah.

All right, so Marcel is the, uh, exception. Um, so anyway, that— I love the Bloomberg box, and that, that's it. That is great advice. And there's a lot of shorter men with you know, beautiful, intelligent women. It doesn't matter, you guys. I'm gonna say it— size doesn't matter. There, I said it. Okay, so moving on. Um, Marcella, you had, um, good info for us on a happy note also about the eagles. Yes, the bald eagles.

The, the Eagles, not the band, but the bald eagles may It's— they made a comeback, um, in the lower 48. So the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service was posting this as part of the 250 years of the United States of America, and one of the things that they describe is that now it used to be 400 and— oh, oh, eagles! They mate for life, allegedly. I say allegedly because Shadow, Jackie and Shadow, and Big Bear, which are famous eagles, Jackie used to have another one, another boyfriend, and Shadow moved him out. So they didn't really mate for life. So there was 417 bald eagles in 1963. Now there's about 71,000 today.

Yeah, the lower 48.

Somebody mentioned, I don't know, it was Cat Turd or something, they mentioned that there's many of them in northern Florida.

Florida, yeah. And we have so many here too. I mean, we'd see them like once in a blue, and we can— I mean, I see them when we go out on the boat. We always spot them up in the trees. We have a ton of big birds here, but there's so many eagles now. Bald eagles, eagles. It's So, and when you see one, like sometimes when you're looking at a bird, you're like, is that a bald eagle? Could that be one? But when you actually see one, it's like, you know, you're like, oh, there it is, there's a bald eagle. So yes. And you guys, not to be Debbie Downer, but just to drive a point home. Oh, I'm just saying. Yeah. So here's one.

No, I knew it. I knew it was—

that's a dead bald eagle at the base of a wind turbine, and it's a problem. And so sorry, but that's the cold hard reality of the environmentalist movement.

No, and the thing with the— I wasn't here when you guys talked about it— the wind turbines and all of that in California, it's sold— it's basically— well, I don't want to go into it, I don't want to accuse anybody of fraud, but it's basically sort of a fraud scheme. Let me, let me— yeah, all this government money on the wind turbines and all that, but then not use the actual power that we get from it because there's these rules and this other rules. So it doesn't really pan out as it was sold.

So, right.

And then at the same time, it's killing all these birds and just being an eyesore, blah blah blah.

So, BJ, BJ, I do love the Canadian geese too. I'm a— I'm an animal lover.

We, we hate them. They crap all over the place and they attack people and I try to hit them with my truck whenever I can. What's interesting—

BJ!

Yeah, kidding. What I will say about the bald eagles is, you know, driving across the US, you know, I remember learning as a kid they're an endangered species, but they are everywhere. I see them all the time. Them and hawks. Bald eagles and hawks.

Yeah, it's pretty cool. So that's your eagle news, which I thought was important. Oh, and you know what? I don't have the post in front of me, but I also want to say, because I just want to get this photo out of the way because I love it, um, did you guys hear that James O'Keefe, they came and like raided his house and confiscated his guns? So James— what?

Why? For what?

Now I don't know. James O'Keefe, so you guys know him, he used to be Project Veritas and now he's the, um, O'Keefe Media Group, aka OMG. And he has the footage of them coming into his home and taking his guns. He's gonna post it, I think, today. But like, what is happening, America? So that's why I posted yesterday, like, are we still in America? Like, did the simulation shift a name on the map and I'm somewhere else now? Because that is horrifying. And this guy is so targeted for just doing news, you know, for just reporting facts. And Marcel and I are not gonna put up with it.

Oh, yeah. Look at my gold gun.

Look at my gold suit.

Look at your gold suit.

We are fancy. But no, we're not.

This is one of my stories about the Mexican Mafia. But—

Oh.

Yeah.

Let's get right into the Mexican Mafia then.

Yeah, go ahead.

Oh, so, not the FDA, but the FBI raided the Mexican Mafia. And what I love about the story is not really the— the mafia itself is just, you know how, um, Operation Epic Fury, all of these operations have different like cool names. They named this operation Operation Gangsta Paradise.

Gangsta.

Gangsta. I, I don't— can't even speak gangster, I guess.

Um, wait, are you saying gangster but gangsta?

Gangsta Paradise.

Um, that's how un-gangster I am. Ben Chapman from California Post reported that the FBI did this Operation Gangster Paradise, um, in Orange County, California, of course, uh, resulting in 30 arrests from the Mexican Mafia. I wasn't arrested, neither was Erica. Um, the law enforcement said that they mainly did this because, you know, they, they were, uh, they're charging them with racketeering conspiracy, which was a favorite of Scott RICO style, uh, drug trafficking, murder, kidnapping, assault, extortion, operating illegal gambling businesses. They are the biggest, um, one of the biggest gangs in the United States, even in the prisons. So they control a lot. Um, hi to all of them that are watching today. Uh, so there was about 40 arrests overall, but it was pre-Dawn Raid. There was no, um, you know, no— they, they basically were surprised. So I don't know if you're surprised by the following, what I'm gonna tell you. Um, the Mexican Mafia has informants in the FBI and— what? Yes, get out— and the CIA. And so It was sort of like they kept the, the informants away from this news, so that's why it was surprising to them.

Wow.

Wow.

The Mexican Mafia pushed out the Bloods and Crips out of Compton is what Andy Wang is saying. Andy would know.

Yeah, he would.

He would. He's a big gangster himself. All right, well, that's amazing, BJ. I don't have that clip that I thought I loaded, but I don't have it. Um, We can just reenact it. I could, but I would need like 30 people dressed as Sikhs, I guess. Right, BJ?

Uh, Palestinian Sikhs. But yes, the clip is unparalleled. You have to have the clip.

I know. Should I try to get it? I might mess this up. Try to get it.

I'm afraid I'm going to screw this up.

Marcia, can you explain to us about the Mexican Mafia a little bit further?

Because I did see her picture. As a James Bond villainess.

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

I think that pairs nicely to the Mexican Mafia reputation.

But yes, Dr. Von Hardy made that for her yesterday.

It was great. Amazing picture.

So maybe you want to know about these guys. Luis Cárdenas, who is called the Pops, the Tio. He's a cool guy. Alleged leader of the OC faction, Orange County faction, was directing all of these operations out of the state prison. So he's not even— so his pre-dawn raid was in prison. Um, so, you know, they, they figure out a way to break the laws.

Oh yeah, within prison.

Um, I'm sure it was easy.

So, and, and no shock, and we are so like, like, we're so intertwined with Mexico anyway, between the cartel being here and informants over there. And what, like, why don't we just take it all?

And is there a Canadian mafia?

Uh, well, we have, we have Sikhs, we have, uh, Palestinian, uh, Sikh mafia. We have the Mexican cartels, which by the way, they run all the cartels just about in Latin America. Like Colombia, it's not Colombian cartels now, they're Mexican cartels there. We have them. Uh, we have, you know, we talked about Muslim Brotherhood before. And all of their factions. We have 100,000 Hezbollah fighters in Canada. Uh, we have some of the mullahs that escaped Iran who somehow got a visa and have entered Canada. So we have the whole suite. Like, it's amazing. If, if this were the 1990s and Pablo Escobar was on the run, we would have given him a visa, brought him to Canada, and had him run for office. Like, that's, that's the state of Canada at this point, you know.

They're so lovely. Lovely.

I mean, Canada lets a lot of really dangerous people in, but then, you know, the truckers are the problem, and if you have a gun it's a problem, and if you post the wrong thing on social media it's a problem. It's like, no, you have bigger problems, Canada. And, and you know what, here's, here's one more problem they have. Ready for this clip, you guys? This is actually in Canada. I was gonna have you—

this is the Ontario Parliament Building, so this is in the, in the legislature.

Ontario Parliament building. Here's the shenanigans. So what's happening here is they're arguing over a football game, essentially. And no, what is happening here, BJ, you hear the one, um, police officer— I forget what you call them there.

What do you call them? Officers?

Constable. He goes, "What's going on here?" And the other one goes, "I have no idea," because they're not speaking English. No one knows what the heck's going on over there. What the heck is going on?

Translation.

Are you trying to suggest that diversity is not our strength?

I, I am saying it's— we are not all the same is what I'm saying.

Yeah, a little bit of context that's important is, uh, you know, the Sikh community is divided because you have the Khalistani movement and then you have regular Sikhs. Uh, Khalistanis, a terrorist movement that came out of Canada. And famously, you may remember in 19— I think it was '85 or '86, I can't remember— it was the Air India bombing where 369 people were killed as a bomb went up, uh, blew up when the plane was in flight and killed everybody on board. That was the Khalistanis who did that.

Wow.

And so we thought the best thing to do in Canada is, uh, let's, let's get them in office, bring them in, let's elect them. And it's just so So the sectarian violence that, that, or the sectarian disputes in Canada, it's not just one community, and there's not one community that controls the world. What's frustrating for those of us who understand these files is that's where the real threat is. But you don't see, you know, the, the podcasters online explain the nuance of all these other different, uh, groups that have engaged in political entries in Canada. That are causing a lot of the rift here. And Canada is slowly becoming a powder keg. If— for me, it feels worse than when I moved to Colombia initially. It was in the early 2000s, and Colombia was finally a little bit safe. Uribe was in power and stuff, and I got to know lots of friends in Colombian politics. And, you know, everybody knows who comes in, so obviously people in intelligence scanned me and other people and became friends with us, unknowing to us at the time. But the type of sectarian powder keg that Canada is reminds me exactly of Latin America during that period of time. And in many cases, the same people. So, um, yeah, Canada is— Steven Crowder is correct when he said Canada is a national security threat to the United States, which is one of the topics I speak on frequently in the United States. And I've written a number of articles about it, and Zero Hedge even published, uh, one of them a while back.

Yeah, it is a problem. And you know, it's always, you know, you have to remember, you guys, when these people are coming in from other countries, they're bringing their personal baggage with them, literally. So it's like, if, if a bunch of people come here from, I don't know, pick a country, wherever, Colombia, and they're in like rival gangs in Colombia, they're still in those rival gangs here, but now they're just fighting on our streets. So it's not like anyone's coming here. I mean, some people are, very few, and assimilating and being like, okay, we're so grateful, we're thankful, we got to leave that shit behind and now we're moving forward. No, the same stuff is just happening here and we're no better because these people aren't being prosecuted and put in jail and deported. They're just like, oh no, you're already and have a hard time because you had to flee your country and shoot people here instead. Oh, this is just my opinion, by the way. My— all of it.

I don't know if you knew this, but the Sikhs are one of the— I think one of the few, uh, religions in America where you can carry a knife. They're allowed— they're allowed a sword. I don't know, I think sword like, you know, medieval huge thing, but, um, I guess it is a sword. A dagger.

Yeah, there you go. Can you carry a sword?

But you know, they can actually carry it because they won in court in regards to freedom of religion.

But I can't, but they can.

That's right, that's right.

Well, you could if you became a Sikh, right?

But the other thing that's frustrating is, you know, my, uh, you know, one of my grandparents, uh, when, when my grandmother came here, uh, she came here to it just ahead, missed kind of the, the, uh, the gas chambers, and she managed to be lucky enough to get here. At that time, you were not given a choice where you move. It was based on statistics and economics and merit and what we needed. And in her case, she was told she had to go to Estevan, Saskatchewan. So there's no groups of people coming in as a group and setting up, you know, a satellite, you know, outpost of their country back home. It's everybody had to integrate and become Canadian. Uh, but that— we've abandoned that 30, 40 years ago. We have to go to the main cities and the liberals, or in your case, the Democrats, scoop them up, try to brainwash them. Everybody on the right is racist and they hate you, so vote for us. And that's just the process of how it works, both in the US and Canada.

Speaking of everybody on the right being racist, now that we know we're not, thank you to the SPLC. SPLC. I always want to turn it into a university. I want to put a U on the end of it. So I'm really touching on this story. Well, for many reasons. One, it's absurd. But two, I want to play a clip that I have coming up. But first, here's friend of our show, Jack Posobiec, talking about the situation. Let's talk on the other side.

This was not information. This was advocacy. It was activism. And it was leadership of these organizations, including up to and including Charlotteville, as far as we know. And I'm going to say it, Steve, I would like to know, and I certainly hope it comes out in discovery in this case, were there any SPLC informants involved in January 6th? Because it took us 9 years now, almost 10 years, almost a decade to get the truth out about Charlottesville. Well, guess what? January 6th, we all knew that that was in operation. Now we need to know who else was working behind the scenes to turn that into what it turned into.

Yeah, I mean, Marcella, on the legal front, we're gonna have someone on soon that's gonna— that's very involved with the January 6th stuff. But I mean, when we were watching that, the whole crowd was— they were— they weren't even ginned up. The people that were ginned up were these Hang on. Were the agitators in the crowd that, in my opinion—

it's like, hang on, I thought you were gonna bring them out and here they are.

No, um, were the people that were, that were ginned up, were the, the feds, and they were, um, the agitators, and they were the people paid for maybe by the SPLC, um, because there was so many people in the crowd who could have easily got spun up over that, but they were like, no, feds, feds, feds, don't listen to them, don't break that. Like, what do you doing. And that's what we were seeing. Like, forget the noise. Like, there was all this noise, but then you saw individuals that were like, listen, we're not here to destroy anything and to run in here. Like, what are you doing, dude? And the people that were destroying things were obviously like very covered. They had like almost like tactical gear on. And then of course we saw the video footage, um, after of them going back inside the Capitol and like high-fiving each other and walking off with Capitol Police. So, Marcella, I mean, there is a chance that these are linked, don't you think?

I mean, there is. Um, I, I did look into the indictment against the SPLC. I have to say it's weak. It's a weak indictment. One of the reasons— I hate to be the— I always break the bad news to you guys— the SPLC's indictment against them is just against the SPLC. So it's not against any one member.

So far. So far.

So far.

So far.

But it is very, I mean, you can indict a ham sandwich. Basically what this means is if you indict a corporation or a nonprofit, they can't put all of the nonprofit in jail, you know, in prison. So what happens is that there are going to be fines, there's also going to be possibly, you know, taking away the nonprofit part of their group. Now, one of the things that I do have to say is that they have a good defense. You can say that it's morally irreprehensible what they're doing if they're claiming— hypocritical— if they're claiming to be civil rights anti-racism, and here we are paying informants in the KKK, allegedly, and, uh, neo-Nazi groups and all sorts of things that are alleged in the indictment. But at the same time, you are free as a, as a corporation to pay whoever you want. Um, so the argument is, is it illegal to pay informants? And that's gonna be the thing that they're going to attack. They're going to attack it basically on that front. That is really not fraud, but where they get them— this is where they get them, which is key— is that they created allegedly these like corporations, like, uh, ghost corporations. What do you call them? Not ghost, um, somebody in the chat.

Oh, shell groups.

Shell groups. There you go. And created this whole facade in order to pay the informants, not from SPLC, obviously. They had to create this kind of idea that there was someone else paying them. So it can be seen as fraudulent, obviously. And using the banking system and all of that, you have wire fraud, bank fraud, and all sorts of other rules. But what I don't like is that they didn't go for the jugular. They talk about one of the main, uh, head people in SPLC being involved in the scheme. Why didn't they indict him? Why didn't they indict more people? Well, I know that what was said at the press conference by FBI Director Kash Patel is that they will be doing that in the coming days or weeks or months, is that it's not over, they're investigating. I want to see them investigate, uh, the ADL. I, I want them— and I'm sure they're doing ActBlue, you know. So there's so many—

it's just the beginning.

It's just the beginning. But bring in the jugular, bring in the, you know, indict actual co-conspirators, co-conspirators under RICO, under all of these things.

So I'm not an attorney technically But you are right now. Right now I am. So technically I'm not an attorney, you guys, but my argument is you can't incite riots and violence and under the— like, you're, you're, um, what's the word? You guys know, like, you can't just say like, oh, this group, I'm labeling them as racists and neo-Nazis yet you're paying people to play that role. Like, you're inciting, you're agitating.

They don't have evidence of that. They do not have evidence of that. They have only evidence of them paying, uh, individual members of these groups to inform them of what is going to happen. However, once you start an investigation and you can go into that, um, corporation or nonprofit, then you can open up discovery and many other things can be discovered, which is why they're saying, you know, hold up, you know, it's not yet over.

All right, BJ, do you have a take on this? I know I can't wait to see— well, actually, BJ, before you get to that, pump this energy into my veins. Greg Gutfeld, my soul brother, talking to Jessica Tarlov. I'm sorry, not sorry.

Racism, and I go back to the contrast. We don't have to defend our racists because we don't know who they are because you create them. Meanwhile, we don't have to make up your racists because you're standing there with Hasan Piker. These guys are right there in our face.

Yeah, hold on, I gotta get— Can you say the victims, that they don't exist or whatever? The 23 people who died in the Walmart in El Paso, going to Buffalo, going to the Tree of Life synagogue, those who are all shot—

That is not part of the psyop or the false flag. You're violating me. You're violating the exception to the rule fallacy.

Jesse said everything is fine. We all love each other.

I know what he was doing.

I gotta get him.

Each other more than you guys make it out.

Yeah, I've got to get him.

I want the country to be torn asunder. Not you, your party, because that keeps you in power. If there's no more homeless—

I just, I know, like, I just, I want to scream like that. And by the way, um, Just side note, Hasan Piker has male vocal fry. Like, if it wasn't bad enough, he has fricking vocal fry. I just heard him in a clip today. I was like, ew. Like, you're already an animal abuser and you're disgusting and you cheer on like the death of people and he wants us to be the most criminal group ever in the world. Like, he's spawning off these people, not spawning, you know what I'm saying? He has vocal fry. That could be one of the worst things about him. But BJ, what do you think about this whole conflict here with the Southern Poverty Law Center?

I'm actually going to go into detail on this on my stream after. I'm going to do a stream at 11:00 and go into greater granular detail because I know a lot about this. A lot. You want the good news or the bad news first?

I want the bad news first.

Okay, the bad news is, uh, no one's going to jail. Uh, this will be swept under the rug with a large, large fine after many years, 3, 4 years, however it takes to prosecute it. And, uh, they may lose their charitable status, they may shut down, and, uh, that's about as bad as it's going to get. So if you think there's going to be, you know, people in handcuffs, that's not how the political class works. The other bad thing—

BJ, let me just say in the chat, yes or no, does anyone think Anyone's going to end up in handcuffs, yes or no? Okay, BJ, go ahead.

Yeah, I lost my train of thought. The other thing that is negative about this that people won't like me to say, and I explained this in a space last night because I've dealt with this myself in a little thing called the trucker convoy. If you think this is just the left, then you're not seeing the full chessboard. There is a reason somebody asked yesterday in a space, How has this been able to go on for decades? Well, it's gone on for decades because both sides do it. It's a political action tool that they use to funnel vote, uh, funnel people into different voting camps. Uh, so this is what is important to get away from the left-right binary view of the world. That's— that is not going to be helpful to understand how this works. So what's the good news?

Yeah, thanks.

The good news is This is stuff that myself and other people— there's so much we know about that goes on behind the scenes, but I can't tell people because if you don't have the context of how things work, they just get really dismissive and like, ah, that's not true, that doesn't happen. Same people who believe in moon landing conspiracies or anything on the internet, which is wild. But when you can map out something strategically, but it gets too complex their brains start to turn off, their eyes glaze over, and like, I don't know that, I don't, I don't believe it. It is crazy to understand how politics really works. This is politics, it's thuggery. They act like these political parties, they act like gangs frequently, and they will utilize people like this to destroy grassroots movements. Not about left and right, about political control versus people who are outside the system, and that's this capture and containment model. I'll give you an example, uh, a good— well, an example I know of, uh, it tells this— well, no, give another example I'm not involved in. There were, during COVID a number of protests and rallies helping local businesses, and all these groups started popping up. Well, the first thing the political class did was co-opt the organization. So they got a member of parliament to be associated with it. The guy's a little bit of a maniac, and get him involved. And then once the traction continues to build, if they can't quash it and get everybody, you know, uh, uninspired to go home, then eventually what do they do? Somebody in the political class who's a big mover and a shaker, uh, will donate money to a numbered company. In Canada's case, we have numbered companies. You don't. And you would have a Delaware company in the US, and that money, they'll contribute probably $100,000, $150,000. That's how it is in Canada. It might be more in the US. And the intermediary or the cutout, he'll take, I don't know, 80%, him and his partners, and they have a database of maniacs on the ground who say stupid shit or stupid— part of my language, but— oh yeah, this is Scott's podcast. Yeah, it's stupid shit. And so what they'll do is they'll contact one of these maniacs and say, hey, you know, we, we really— there's a lot of people really inspired by what you're saying, you know, that we're living in Hitler's Germany right now. Yeah, that's inspiring people. You should go to, uh, Adam's Barbecue where there's gonna be a big protest and this member of parliament is gonna be there. Uh, go there and just tell everybody what you've been telling people online. and the media is going to be there, try to get some cameras. And we have, you know, one particular— we have a list of guys, I know who they are, and they will show up with a Nazi flag or something stupid or whatever, and they say, yeah, you know, we're pro— Hitler wasn't so bad, or whatever. And then boom, now the first time regular people, the normies, hear of this anti-COVID movement, they see it on the 6 o'clock news with a Nazi flag, and regular people are like, okay, I don't know what this is, Maybe COVID's not so bad. I've lost interest. And by the way, didn't you see some Nazi flags show up in Ottawa during the trucker convoy?

Oh yeah.

And we managed the blowback of that. And then 10 days later, they bought these maniacs that we all know who they are because they were given 3 grand each to show up and just say things about the Third Reich and the mid-century Germans, how good they are. And to mirror people's, uh, opinions. And that would just tarnish the movement. This is how the political class captures all grassroots movements, left and right. They do both of them. And what I find very interesting about this is what's going to happen in discovery. No, I mean, I don't know if you have access, how much access there will be to the discovery, but that's where things really come out. That's when they start to say, okay, how are we going to settle? What's the agreement? Whatever. I think from the Trump administration, this is a shot across the bow saying, "You've gone too far." They labeled Trump the same way they labeled me and other people, and Trump has had enough. He knows how this— his team knows how this game works, 'cause again, the right does this too. And this is the shot across the bow. We're taking out one organization, and there's negotiations that are gonna go on behind the scenes for a couple of years. 'til there's a quiet settlement. They'll pay you hundreds of millions of dollars, whatever it is, and it'll all go away. And that's how politics works.

It's gross.

It's good about it. You know what's good about it? Now when I can tell people, yeah, that guy you think he's on your side, that guy who's a conservative who's supposed to be helping you, he's actually sabotaging your movement, like the Alberta Independence Movement. That's exactly what this is. So now I can point to the SPLC and say that strategy is exactly the strategy they used at the trucker convoy, they use with Wexit, they're using with Alberta Independence, they're using with all sorts of movements in the United States as well.

So now you know, now you know exactly the playbook. Yeah, that's interesting, BJ. Thanks for talking to us about that. Oh yeah, yeah, you guys, and there might be, there might be more.

Like you said, there, there's a possibility that, you know, those cat— those guys in khakis that I always forget what they are.

It's in the name.

Future Front.

Patriot.

Patriot Front. Future Front, whatever you want to call them. Um, there was like another name to them too at one point or another.

I—

or another khaki-wearing— I know, guy, muscle guy, attractive. Anyways, so they, they, you know, yeah, yes, exactly. So we don't know everything, um, and I think it's, it's a, it's like you said, it is a tactic to get in there and find out more. What, what don't we know? January 6th, all these other things that we're not aware of. Now we have an in to investigate them further.

Well, the on-the-books excuse is we're doing intel. The political rationale is we're trying to divide up the voter base between left and right. It's part of their GOTV strategy, get out the vote strategy. So you can ID voters in different counties. You can say, okay, this area, this district, this is a Republican district, this is a Democratic district. How can we sway large groups of people into one or another direction. That's what this is all about.

Yeah. Okay. So I'm going to button that up for now. I have two topics left. I'm going to, I think, just pick one for now. And you guys, Marcella will cover this tomorrow in the afterparty more. There's, you know, they had a Pentagon briefing this morning about Iran and the Strait. Um, so I'm sure, you know, you'll be able to watch that whole briefing, Marcella, and then talk about it tomorrow. Um, so I'm not going to get into it now, but I want— I do want to play this clip because this is just freaking me out, you guys, and I want to pay it some more attention so we can kind of follow it and like know that we saw it, you know, from the beginning, which is about the missing scientists. Um, I'm sorry, I have to show you Chris Cuomo, but I'm just gonna play. I really am, because you have no idea. Um, but I just want to call hot guy who's unattractive, right?

Isn't exactly your point. Isn't that what you said in the beginning?

Oh yeah, no, not— and like I said, those people don't do it for me.

Um, exactly, exactly.

Thank you. Okay, so yeah, no, I have to like, when he comes on. Okay, so anyway, but I do want to talk The person on is explaining like what's happening because what are we, we have 15 now, I think, suicide, missing, disappearing. But let's, let's hear this. We'll only have a few minutes at the end to talk about it, but I want to do that. So hang on, bear with me. I think it's about 3 minutes.

What are we getting wrong about this? Why should we keep looking at it?

Well, look, anytime you have experts in the national security arena either disappearing or in some cases dying prematurely and not necessarily a natural way. We have to, we have to look at this very closely. We can go back even to the 1940s during the Manhattan Project when we knew Russia was trying to target a lot of our scientists and try to learn some of our atomic secrets. This is nothing new. What is new, though, is that we have these scientists, these engineers and senior military officials that are completely unaccounted for. Some of these individuals had very high security clearances, top secret SCI security clearances. Anytime that would happen in any other country, Russia, China, obviously would be a problem. This is happening here in the United States, and there are some very interesting common ties that at least some, some of these individuals have with one another, and, and that is the UAP topic, ironically enough.

So, and you say this isn't you referring to culture or history, you're saying you talk to some of these people and what happened doesn't make sense.

Yeah, that's absolutely correct. In fact, several of the people that you have on your list right there that you showed, I, I personally spoke with years ago, uh, and, and talked to myself, and it was about the UAP topic and their, their, their work in that, in that, uh, in that arena. But there's also, you know, you said something and it's absolutely accurate. There's other individuals that are not on that list that I am personally aware of that might actually be associated with it. There is an individual that somebody you know, Chris Mellon, who's been on your show before, was going to talk to about 2.5, 3 years ago. He was a few days away from meeting this individual. He was an engineer apparently on the legacy US government's legacy UAP effort and mysteriously died right before the meeting. There's another individual whom I spoke with. He reached out to me. I'm going to protect his identity here for the sake of his family, but he did, he did meet an untimely end. He was a senior special agent at the Department of Energy, and he works specifically in the Inspector General's shop, the IG shop. He was the, the most senior special agent for the Department of Energy, and he was talking to me about coming out and talking to Congress about what he knows within DOE and the files that UAP files that are, that are, uh, that they, that they're holding on to. He was very upset and he felt like he was a whistleblower. So I was arranging for this individual to actually meet with certain members of Congress. His wife, who is a doctor for the Veterans Affairs, walks in one evening after work and finds him dead on the sofa. Now, this was during COVID but from my understanding, there was never any any positive, um, if you will, connection between COVID and his death. He was, he was relatively young. He wasn't an old guy. He wasn't particularly sick. He was healthy. He was athletic. So there, there are more individuals, and certainly I think the FBI should, should do exactly what they said they're going to do. You have folks like Ana Paulina Luna that are working very hard behind the scenes also trying to— you just had her on your show— that's trying get some additional clarity into this. There was another individual that Dave Grusch used to work with. His call sign was Quake, and he was going to go public and talk to Congress. And unfortunately, he was in Washington, D.C. at a hotel, and they found him dead as well. So I want to be careful not to scare people, say this is all about UFOs and the conspiracy that they're trying to keep people like us quiet. But I can tell you, as a matter of fact, I myself and other individuals whom I know, and Congress can tell you the same, have actually been threatened before. Um, so, so it is about time that, that the government takes this very, very seriously, whether they're just missing, good, they want to take an extended vacation, or, or they're dead. Um, we, we need answers and we need them, we need them.

We gotta know.

Yeah, we gotta know. And I think, um, it's up to 15 missing or dead now. Um, this was— was this yesterday, you guys? This is, uh, David Wilcock, 53, prominent UFO researcher, suicide. Um, you know, I mean, at first we were like, you know— yes, I saw your comment, Chunks YouTube. I'm sorry, I can't see you yet. Oh, I can now. Hang on. Um, yeah, I mean, people do just die also, but this is, uh, it's a little strange, you know. So I'm gonna come to you first, BJ. What do you— what, you know, what do you think about what's happening? It's It's pretty strange now.

Uh, you know, it's interesting. There's somebody I know who's, um, retired military who worked in intel in the military here, and I once asked him about that. We were on a trip together and I said, what do you think about UFOs and all that sort of stuff? He said, interesting, because the last couple years he's in the military, he was given all the UFO files in Canada. I'm like, what do you mean? What are you talking about? He says Oh yeah, they have a room that has everything, all the— everything that, that's been filed away in the— over the past, you know, 60 years, whatever. And we were assigned, I think he told me, 8 days or 10 days to go through everything and find something credible because this person taught information credibility and information, uh, and source reliability, uh, in the university level. And I said, oh, okay, so what'd you find? He says, yeah, it's all nonsense. It's all, it's all garbage. There's nothing there. I think what you're seeing is an example of correlation does not imply causation, and you're watching brainwashing. That's exactly the brainwashing that Scott Adams was worried— was warning people about. That is pacing and leading, emotional framing. There's, you know, what, 400 million people in the United States? 350 million people? Uh, yeah, 5 people or 15 people are dead. Well, guess what? People in that age demographic, what is the rate of decease and the amount of stress that they have, and that this particular guy was, I don't know, was a UFO charlatan. Like, I don't believe any of this stuff, and I wish I did. If people understood time dilation, they'd understand why we're never going to have aliens and we're never going to be going to far-off planets. But people don't understand enough about science, so they, you know, it's one of those things, the last point, when in the absence of a logical explanation of something We go from something that could be a rational explanation to the most irrational possible outcome. And, you know, this often is what leads to correlation is not— does not imply causation. That's how I see it. I'm with Scott on this.

Okay. Well, we don't know exactly what Scott would say about this because I know, Marcella, you started off more on that trajectory of like, you know, well, you know, people die and whatever. But then we start like hearing like every day Yes, this could fully be brainwashing. This could all be like just actually coincidence and whatever. But, you know, I know that your thinking was changing slightly. Marcela, where are you at now?

You know, there was another case. I thought this might be about that case. There was— there's another scientist that was, um, in a Tesla, um, that was— and I thought of BJ as well, and as well as Erica. Because he was trapped at the Tesla. Um, but somehow the Tesla went into some kind of— hit some kind of post or something, and then it caught on fire, and then he died inside of the Tesla. But they think that he might have been trying to commit suicide. So it's another scientist that goes into this, you know. I mean, there is the Havana Syndrome that allegedly, like, 60 Minutes made a whole thing about how it does exist and it doesn't exist. So to be honest, I think a lot of these people have a lot in common, meaning they work under a lot of pressure, um, in the same type of field. Um, they have given most of their life to science, to a certain— or UFO investigation. You know, it could be that they are all depressed. I have no idea. It— there might be a thing where, like, it, it's a thing that creates this type of depression. But I still think it's a little bit like BJ said, and a little bit of a documentary effect, where if I give you this and I give you this other evidence, it's kind of like when I do a trial and I want to have the jury and/or the judge look at you know, at certain things, like in a certain way. I only show you evidence that is going to garner whatever, whatever, um, consequence, whatever objective I have, which is there is more to it. However, we don't know. As Scott Adams would have said, we don't know everything. Um, intelligence, the FBI, the CIA, Trump, President Trump, they might know more about whether China is involved because China has been involved with aerospace before. Um, China has had, um, paid informants or paid information or all sorts of things. So this could be bigger and it should be investigated, and/or it could just be like they really need Um, they really need our morning show to be happier. Um, it could just be that, you know.

I did read today, I didn't read the whole thing, it was kind of like a headline skim, um, but that China's having the same issue where they apparently have a lot of scientists go missing, which it made immediately makes me say they're either saying that to cover their tracks, to be like, oh my God, us too. Like, how many times have we seen that when something's going on and then the guilty party's like 'Oh my God, no way, what a coincidence.' So that was my first thought. Um, yeah, also I often— I'm not even playing the contrarian, but oftentimes I take the contrary point of view. Um, I don't know, I, I feel like a lot of these people also lived in the same area. I think quite a few were from like the New Mexico region. Um, so to me it's wait and see, but my My gut feels like it's too much. It's, it's too much. This is what my gut is saying. I completely understand where both of you are coming from, but I'm just gonna— for the record, I'm just saying it's too much. And now with Chyna jumping in like, oh, hashtag us too, um, it makes me even more suspicious.

So one of the, one of the people was, um, I think it's Kobe Yard Salad, I think mentioned, um the Gout's Gulch. If you have read, uh, Ayn Rand's, uh, epic novel Atlas Shrugged, one of the things that happens in Atlas Shrugged— and I won't go more into it because then I give it away if you want to read it— um, is that people start shrugging, meaning that they no longer work, and they start going missing. Like, very important people— CEOs, uh, scientists all over the place. And there's a reason they— but I won't go into the reason why they do it. But it's sort of the starting of a thriller movie. Like, all scientists are disappearing. All podcasters are no longer there.

You know, don't come after us. We are useless to you people. Like, honestly, I'll just leave the show before you need to kidnap me. Don't worry, please. I don't want to be uncomfortable. Thank you. But well, I think we'll just like wait and see, you guys. And, um, I want to definitely talk to a couple of people that might like be— maybe we'll get Ana Paulina Luna on, see what she says, right? Maybe we'll get Matt Gaetz on. Listen, I, I want to talk to people. Um, I find this interesting, and I, I feel like it could be a deterrent to other people who want to get into these special fields that they might be like, oh shit, then there's a target on us, and you know, whatever. I don't know, that's all I'm saying. Yes, 2 minutes, I see you guys. Thank you so much. Um, you guys, just another reminder, Marcella is on tomorrow. That's me. That's, that's, that's her. Um, tomorrow for the after party on Spaces on X. Okay, so we will post it and repost it everywhere. Also, you might have seen that X, for whatever reason, is going to get rid of their communities feature, which really pisses me off. We have the best community on X. There's, uh, actually it's gone up since they reported they're taking it away. We have over 11,600 members on our Coffee with Scott Adams community. We use that community every day. That community was essential to getting information out about Scott and, you know, the last year we had with him. Um, we have so many, you know, amazing posts on there. So please make sure that you're following myself and Marcella and Owen. Um, you know, we are trusted. Um, I don't know what the word is. I want to say Marcella, but Scott put us together for a reason. And, you know, we'll make sure that whatever news that you need to know about concerning Scott Adams and his channels, his estate, we will have it. Okay. So, and we work with the estate, everything. It's, it's all signed, sealed, and delivered. So please know that. So anyway, stick together. Let's keep sharing that we want the community to stay, and maybe Nikita will have a change of heart and let it stay. They want the, they want the spaces to— I mean, the communities to be gone, I think by like May 2nd. I'm like, why so fast? So anyway, we'll see how it goes. But we definitely encourage you guys to join us on Locals. That is also where, uh, exclusive content that Scott had been posting for years and years and years lives. And that is scottadams.locals.com. If you buy the year, it's still the price Scott has set. If you buy for the year, it's $70. That's getting 2 months for free. Otherwise, it's $7 a month. Okay, please consider doing that. It actually helps us keep the channels going. Um, it supports, you know, all of Scott Adams' work and the family and the endeavors that he always wanted. Freebird, you're amazing. Um, so we, we encourage you to do that. BJ, you are just a returning friend, a family member of this show, and we appreciate you so much for jumping in last minute when Owen said he couldn't be here. Um, everybody in this chat loves you. You're, you're one of us for sure.

Well, thank you. And the other thing is I'm going to be starting my live stream right now, so we'll talk into those details. And with all the UFO stuff, the only thing I would suggest is do what Scott Adams always said: search whatever the topic is and the word debunk. I did that with Ancient Aliens and it was amazing, uh, the high-level debunk that came from a number of professors that kind of outlined, uh, all the flaws in it. So it's important to see all sides of every argument, and sometimes you may walk away with, I don't know. That's okay.

I don't know is always okay. Yeah.

Where can they find your podcast?

Uh, go to either on YouTube, MyLocals, Substack, abjdator.substack.com, or Rumble. You just search me. I'm gonna be— go— or find me on X.

Search for ABJ. Um, BJ, of course.

What are you thinking about, Marcella?

That's 6'11 German guy. Okay, you guys, thank you so, so much. We are so appreciative to every single person here. We'll be back Monday. Marcella will be on tomorrow, and we have another, another great, uh, week planned ahead. SJV, don't tell me what to do. And, um, you guys We love you. Go out there, be useful, touch the grass, move your pinkies. And we thank Scott and Shelley for keeping this going. And as always, a final sip to Scott. To Scott.

To Scott.

Bye guys, love