The Scott Adams School - 05/01/26 BJ Dichter Joins the News Crew. Trump, Area 51. VDH. NJ Governor.

In this May 1, 2026 live stream of The Scott Adams School, host Erica opens with light‑hearted banter and a "simultaneous sip" ritual before moving through a rapid‑fire agenda. The panel (Erica, Marcela, Owen, guest BJ Dichter, and occasional input from Scott Adams) shares an animal video, reacts to a cochlear‑implant test, and then dives into substantive news. They discuss the Department of Justice lawsuit against New Jersey for granting in‑state tuition and financial aid to undocumented immigrants, and the related debate over mask‑wearing restrictions for ICE. The conversation shifts to the flood of AI‑generated court filings and the broader impact of AI on the legal system and media. A major focus is the newly announced Trump‑backed low‑cost IRA program that matches up to $1,000 per year for low‑income earners, including its crypto‑origin backstory and concerns about wealth redistribution. The panel then explores a spate of shallow earthquakes near Area 51, UFO disclosure speculation, and various conspiracy theories, featuring commentary from UFO researcher Dr. Steven Greer and references to political figures such as Hakeem Jeffries and Victor Davis Hanson. Throughout, the hosts intersperse humor (Dilbert meme, "Friday Fun Day"), personal anecdotes, and a closing "sip" before signing off. The stream reflects a blend of pop‑culture commentary, political analysis, and speculative discussion typical of the Scott Adams School format.
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Good morning, you guys. Sorry for the, the minute delay. We were, we were in the green room talking about sex slaves. More on that.
Yes, we were. It's Friday.
Happy Sex Slave Friday.
Happy Sex Day. I mean, Sex Slave Friday.
We're starting off great today. This is going to be an exciting one. Honestly, BJ's with us.
Mm-hmm.
This is the show today. This is the flavor happening right now. Oh, all right, so vibes, catch the vibes. Can I just have a moment to catch my breath?
I'm 12.
While the stream uploads the whole thing.
Okay, get ready, you guys.
I'm ready.
I don't need my lip sync matches with the song, so it looks really weird.
Dr. Pardi.
There's our guest.
I like coffee.
Is that your first time hearing this, BJ?
Yes, it is.
Do you love it?
Very cute, very clever. Is that AI generated or what?
Um, Bob Lawler, uh, one of our OG friends, created that for us.
Very cool.
Yep. So I think he's actually playing his— Bob, you're in the chat. I think I saw you. I think he is playing the bass on that. And did we get Scott's drums in there? I forget. I forget how it all happened, but it's so good. Hi, Jared. Welcome, you guys. All right. Are you ready for the official sip? I am. Let's go.
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Go!
Ah, now you might note that I am sipping from the deplorable university cup.
Yep, and we had to fix that and get our own mug going, didn't we?
Mhm.
So good morning, Owen, Marcela, and BJ. Uh, my name is Erica. You are at the Scott Adams School. Today is May 1st. Let's go, May! Let's hit May hard, okay? And, uh, it's a Friday. What better way to start May? So, oh, and tonight we want to remind you that Walter Kern is on the Greg Gutfeld Show. So we'll make sure to look for Walter. Good luck, Walter. You don't need it. Um, all right, you guys, so, you know, Friday we're like a little looser, a little sillier, but we still have some good news for you. Um, but I did want to start— you know me, I wanted to start with a little animal clip. Because it's me and animals. So look at this. Okay, so these are— are these alpacas? Look at— they're going over that string. All right, this one's like, I'll walk around. This one's like, oh, okay.
Oh, are they alpacas? Looks like it's a match of each one.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I'll go under.
Oh, I'm scared. Oh, I'll go under too. I refuse to go I wonder. I refuse to go over, I refuse to go around. What will I do? What will I do?
Oh, oh, Mark.
Okay, come on, Big Daddy. There you go.
So smart. He's so smart.
See, there's so many ways to get the job done. I love that. So that was my animal.
I never really understood the difference between a llama and an alpaca.
Isn't it size? Isn't the llama larger than the alpaca or vice versa?
Again, you know better than me. I never knew. I just knew they were similar but different.
One of them only has teeth on the top or the bottom. I think it's alpaca. So if they actually like bite you, it won't hurt. Maricela's like, this is amazing news.
How does that make any sense? What do they do, just bite into their own gums?
Yeah, they're like— someone in the— someone ask Brock and let us know. You guys keep your eye on the chat for the official information. Oh my gosh. Okay, so that was, that was one video.
Which one spits at you?
Oh, the alpaca. I have a video of one spitting at me.
I thought that's the dragon in Jurassic Park.
That too.
I haven't been there yet, but yes. So sometimes they spit. I think it's like a love thing personally, but mm-hmm. Okay, the other story, I wanted to play this at some point this week, so let's just do it today. I feel like I just want to like scoop up all the videos that I wanted to show you. Okay, because we want to start off with like a nice little positive vibe here. Um, I love this. Okay, so without explanation.
Oh, can you hear? Hey, can you hear?
I heard.
Hey, can you hear? No, just hear a beep beep beep.
It's going up.
That's normal.
Oh, oh, yes, you can hear. So I'm technically hearing. Yeah. So like, everybody be quiet. I'm doing it, but when I'm talking, I can hear you.
You can hear? Hey, your hearing aid is off.
This is just your cochlear implant. Wait, I can hear you? Yeah. No way. Can you hear? No way. No way. Can you hear me? You can hear me? Oh my goodness. Hey.
Is it too loud?
Does it hurt or is it okay? Is it okay? It's okay? Is it too loud? It's good.
It's good.
Good. Are these happy tears?
What?
Are they happy tears? Are they good tears? Okay, good. You're doing so good. It's good.
Oh, you know what that is? That is like every time I've been in a podcast studio, that's what happens for, you know, 10 minutes before live to air every time.
Can you hear me? Can you hear that? Can you hear me? I mean, is that the sweetest? So like, you know, that, that's kind of that what we take for granted that we can just hear, you know, or see or speak. So I just love that. I don't know, I love that kid, and I'm not really a kid person, so that was a, uh, shocking soft side of Erica over here.
Shocking.
It reminds me of Rush Limbo.
Maybe like the other viral one where the person hears for the first time and it's a man in a doctor's office and he's next to his wife and he's like, do you hear her? She's so loud, it's so annoying.
Right out of the gate. Oh my gosh. All right, so you guys, isn't that sweet? Did anyone tell us in the chat yet the difference between the alpaca and the llama?
Llamas are larger, somebody said.
That's not it though, is it?
All right, maybe the hair is different, right? Because they use llamas for, uh, to make, um, to make clothing for people in like La Paz in Bolivia and stuff like that.
All right, Giada De Laurentiis, with your accent, I have, um, I have alpaca clothing too, so I don't know. Um, I do— do you guys get that Giada reference? You know how she'll just be talking like this and she's like, and then today we're gonna have spaghetti and mozzarella, and you're like, whoa, lady, Okay, um, that was my Giada reference. Okay, so all right, let's move on to a story, uh, in New Jersey news. Um, so we have a governor— Andy Wang, where are you? Where are you, Marge? Um, her name is— is it Mickey or Mikey? I won't know the difference when you write it, but Mickey Sherrill, let's call her. So she's a hoot. Um, I just want to play this clip of her. This is just so typical of— I hate to just call it the Democrats, but just let's, let's just listen to— this is her talking about like her first 100 days in office and how's it going.
I know you like to talk about President Trump.
Um, I don't like talking about President Trump. Trump administration. Trump, Trump. The president. Federal government. Federal government. Trump federal Washington. Trump Federal government? Federal government! The president? White House. Federal government—
Trump administration—
Trump federal government— federal government Washington— federal federal government at white house of the president— federal government federal government federal government federal government— Washington Washington federal government Trump Administration his administration I live for the day when we never talk about him. I would love that.
[APPLAUSE] Mm, so good.
Isn't that the best?
You know what's funny about that? The whole— I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but the 100 days after office, didn't Trump start that? I don't ever remember hearing a president, uh, going over their first 100 days or making commitments for the first 100 days. I think it started with Trump. So that whole premise comes from Trump.
Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
I don't know, I thought, I thought that—
I thought Obama had 100 days.
Yeah, I feel like it's the thing.
I don't know. Okay.
Could be, but she did Days of Destruction with Obama.
Um, I think the, you know, it is a little bit of what Scott used to call like the new CEO effect, where it's like, let's, you know, get a whole bunch of stuff rolling in the right direction to set the tone and get everything moving. And so it's kind of like your initial accomplishments. But I know Trump did the same thing after the first year to talk.
The chat said FDR started that.
Oh really?
Yeah, and they're smart. Um, so honestly though, New Jersey's in the news a lot, and I, I can tell you that I have made friends with an assembly person from New Jersey, and she's going to be on this show with us. I'm obsessed with her, um, and she'll be the perfect person to give us like, you know, what's going on and like how things are really working. And I can't wait to have her on. I'll talk more about her later. But, um, Owen, We were talking in the green room that the DOJ is suing New Jersey, and, um, here's a just a little graphic. Sandy, thank you for sharing this with me. So basically— oh, and I'll let you take this from here.
Yeah, so the Department of Justice is suing New Jersey over some laws that are giving illegal aliens in-state tuition, um, and essentially treating actual citizens as like second class. So lawsuit recently challenging their state laws that say illegal aliens would get in-state tuition and financial aid, saying it discriminates against U.S. citizens. And I think similar lawsuits have been filed in many other states, including red states. There was one in apparently Texas and Kentucky and Oklahoma that have already blocked these kinds of laws, and now they're pending as well in Illinois and Minnesota and California. So they're kind of going both ways with this. Apparently it's been happening all over the place, but New Jersey is the newest one to add to the list where they're essentially giving better treatment for college tuition to illegal aliens over U.S. citizens. So they're screwing— suing for discrimination and, uh, you know, hopefully getting rid of these extra benefits that illegal aliens get, which I'm all for. I mean, I think I've said many times that one of the big reasons people come here is for all the free stuff, all the extra benefits, all the stuff that we give away to them, everything from education to medical care to welfare to, you know, everything that they get. And, um, it doesn't make any sense to, to, to give all these free benefits to people. And I think other people in the past have pointed out, it's like, you can't have open borders and all this free financial aid and all this. It's just, it's overwhelming our medical system, our education system, our, you know, welfare systems, everything. So, um, these benefits have always supposed to be a safety net for citizens, but it's been abused over and over again to give all these extra things to illegal aliens. So We're going after it.
Um, oh really? Someone said, I believe Trump is also suing New Jersey for a law saying ICE can't wear masks. I don't know about that. I don't know if you guys do, but that's a bunch of BS also. Can you imagine?
I hadn't heard that for New Jersey, but I know they did that in California.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you can wear a mask to riot, but you know, but like, I think it should be you can't wear a mask to protest is personally how I feel, but I thought that was already settled in California, where they just said they are allowed to wear masks and the state law doesn't take effect because the federal law preempts it. Marcela would know.
Yeah, that's what they decided. I mean, that's the law. I don't know, like, a lot of times these states, I feel like they're like anarchists or something running amok because all these laws already exist. Uh, it's just Trump enforcing them, but it costs taxpayer money to go and have to sue for the masks, for the illegal alien money, you know. So it's, it's, um, and Joe Biden, you know, President Biden allowed all of this to happen because that's how it is. It wasn't enforced, just like the border.
Anyways, it doesn't make any sense, like, illegal aliens should get in-state tuition or financial aid that US citizens can't get. I mean, I had to pay out-of-state tuition for my son because my in-state school didn't accept him and the out-of-state school did. So, you know, and it cost me a lot of money. I mean, you know, the difference is huge. It's like somewhere around $50,000 a year tuition that I've been paying. And if I was in-state, it would've been closer to $10,000 a year. So it's like, you know, over $100,000 That's crazy. Just because they wouldn't give me in-state tuition, and if he was an illegal alien, apparently he might have gotten that in-state tuition.
Darn it.
Darn it. All right, well, listen, we're going to keep our eye on New Jersey because it's so fun and fascinating right now on an infuriating level, because, you know, California is the— has set the, the gold standard. What?
I thought you guys were winning the New Jersey.
Well, we're winning things, Marcela. You're winning the overall, but we're catching up. And thanks for emptying Canada, Hollywood, to my town.
You know what's, you know, it's strange. I was, I spoke at a conference maybe 3 years ago, uh, and in Florida, and one of the people, the person who spoke just ahead of me, uh, was involved with the DeSantis administration and their crypto regulations, and What he was trying to explain to people— I mean, we kind of knew, we talked about this behind the scenes— but what he was trying to explain to the crowd is we're at the point where in the United States where the legislation doesn't matter because it's either enforced or interpreted depending where you are on the political spectrum, and everything is being kicked to the courts. So he said all our legislation now is before a judge, and the judges don't want to deal with either. So it's It's just total chaos there with what's going on that we're at the point where legislation and law doesn't really make a difference. It's really frustrating to watch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and the other interesting thing I read about recently, I don't think I posted about this, but it was that a lot of people are doing like AI filings in courts and they're kind of flooding the courts with it. Like they're— a lot of times they're just frivolous motions and things like they don't really have an argument, but they're using ChatGPT and they're not hiring a lawyer and They're just going motion after motion after motion after motion, and then the judge has to, you know, look at it. And maybe if the other side, like if it's a divorce thing, the other lawyer has to look at it. And so you're just draining money from your person you're divorcing, and you're wasting time of the courts, and you're getting to the point where it's just clogging up the courts to the point where they can't function.
And oh, and there's also, there's also another side of it, and maybe Marcelle can weigh in on this. Uh, you know, one of the podcasts I produce is a legal podcast. Guys that are, you know, victims of false accusations. And the two things that are happening, one is that there's another thing that's happening. Clients are now coming in to law firms and saying, it's okay, I've done all the work. We can, we do this for like $500.
I have all the time every day.
And they're all fake. And the client's like, no, no, no, I've got it handled. I just need you to sign here. It's hysterical.
Yeah, I can do— Marcella, Marcella, I could do your job. Why am I paying you this much, Marcella? I could totally do everything that you do. Like, okay, go ahead.
Yeah, good luck. And when you're in front of the judge, have fun with that.
The judges don't like that, do they, Marcella? The whole ChatGPT— judges don't like this ChatGPT phenomenon.
Well, judges have been caught doing the same thing as pro pers. They've been— pro pers are people that are not represented. Um, there's been, uh, you know, judges give opinions just like we have the Supreme Court opinion or whatever, and it's been, um, either their legal research or whatever, uh, writes it out and they've used ChatGPT or wherever they use, um, and they have, you know, wrong citations as well. So it goes, you know, it's, it's— and I think, um, who was it, they, um, a friend of mine is in the news business and the news people had like a conference Um, these are people that are hated by Trump or whatever, uh, but they are worried about all the articles because they're writers. Some of them, they're worried about all articles being written by AI and then being replaced. So yeah, which is most likely going to happen.
I mean, all right, there's another good use for AI. Um, so all right, so let's move on. And also, what But you know, AI, AI is going to definitely force some problems. I mean, this is a— we could do 5 weeks on AI and what potentially could go wrong. But you know, even like Taylor Swift now, I heard that she's—
Taylor Swift?
Yeah, you know Taylor.
She's saying she's going to be replaced by AI?
No, ma'am. She is working on a contract that protects her from AI. Um, oh yes, yep, those pictures, pictures, music, all of it, her lyrics. Um, you know, so it, it can be a problem when people just want to steal your likeness and use it for their own gain. Um, all right, so let's move on to something else. Um, this is exciting. I really like, I really like these things that Trump is doing. I know he did the one with Michael Dell for the I don't remember the name of it, but it was like to put $1,000 in like a savings account for kids under a certain age and let it grow with interest. Does anyone remember what that was called?
American something?
Ugh, I forget. I'll look it up in a second. But let's, so anyway, this is another opportunity now for people that maybe don't have jobs where you can deposit money into an IRA for savings. They're creating something here that we'll talk about on the other side for people to have the same opportunity for savings, um, and getting matching. So let's, let's look at this. And I think we should probably all take advantage of it if you qualify.
Beginning at the start of next year, every American will be able to go to trumpira.gov and open a new low-cost IRA account. You'll then be able to access the same type of retirement accounts that federal employees enjoy through the Thrift Savings plans, which are incredible. As part of the Federal Savers Match Program, low-income Americans will be eligible to receive up to $1,000 per year in matching funds deposited directly into their accounts. It's a great thing. For millions of Americans who lack employer-sponsored plans, this will be really revolutionary because they'll be covered. Nobody thought that was possible. For example, if a 25-year-old who is eligible for a SABERS match program invests just $165 a month under the matching federal contributions, they will have an estimated $465,000 in their account by the time they're 65 years old. In other words, they'll be rich. And there's something awfully nice about that. But this is only the first step. I was talking to Kevin Hassett a little while ago and the people standing right behind me, we're going to take it to the next level. And the next level, Kevin, you're going to mention something, but the next level will be necessary to have congressional approval. What you just heard, we don't need congressional approval. And it'll never be terminated because to terminate it, if somebody else is in office, to terminate it, you'd have to take that money money away. You'd have to, uh, you'd have to really take away something that's so positive. I don't think any politician would do it.
I like this. I think the difference is— I saw some people asking— is that there's going to be matching. So if you work for a company, you know, they'll, they'll match a portion of the money you put into the account. They're like, okay, you put that in and we'll match it. So I believe, Owen, he's saying here will match $1,000 a year?
I think so. I mean, the, the actual text of it just says $1,000, so I don't know if that means one time or annually. It doesn't really say annually, so maybe it's just one time, but I'm not sure. Um, yeah, I, um, but it— I think it is. I, I don't, I don't know what the official name was for the kid accounts, but everybody just— Trump accounts. Yeah, but, um, this seems to be like a similar thing for adults, and, um, You know, I honestly, personally, I'm kind of conflicted on this one. Like, one thing that I think is clear to me is that this is a way of kind of keeping the stock market up because it's essentially getting more people to invest in the stock market than otherwise would and put more money into the stock market than would otherwise go there. But the other thing is like, it, you know, it's yet another thing that's like only for people under a certain level of income. And so it just seems like you're just giving money to, you know, lower income people, which is obviously taxpayer funds, right? Like that's the only place it can come from. So, you know, I personally think it's a bit more of redistribution of wealth, which I don't really like. So, oh, I don't see it personally. I'm kind of, well, but I mean, okay, so where is this money coming from? Like, I mean, if he wants to let people save money. I would be all for it if you just said, "Okay, IRAs, the limits are too low. Let's raise the limits. Let people invest more." I do think there's inequity there to say if you work for somebody and you have a 401(k), you can put in however many— I think it's like $16,000 or $18,000 a year or whatever it is now. But then IRAs is much lower than that. It's like one-third of that or something. And so I think that should be addressed. But I think saying we're going to match your savings, like, it's like, okay, you know, I, I get that as a benefit from my employer, and I understand that, and I like that, but, um, that's part of my compensation for my job, right? I mean, if they weren't giving it to me in my 401(k), they might just give it to me in salary. Like, it's coming from the company that I work for.
I guess I'd really have to understand, is it $1,000 a year, or is it a one-time $1,000 as an incentive Um, but I like the idea of, of people having somewhere to put their money to gain some interest and then have it later in life instead of having like bigger Medicaid or Medicare problems, um, later in life. I don't know, Marcella, do you have an opinion on this?
Well, I'm with Owen. I think it's wealth distribution. As you guys know, I'm a capitalist, laissez-faire person, so— but I— what I do think is I think this is for people that don't have employers that are self-employed. I think I— at least that was the notion. So instead of giving them $1,000, I would tax the— like, less taxes, um, in order to put more towards savings, or allow, um, like Owen said, the, the IRA limit to be like expanded or something like that. So I think it, it would serve better for the public, the taxpayer, for all of us. It would help so much more, and it would um, less inflation, even if it's one time, it's quite a lot at one time and it could cause further inflation. But I'm not an economist, so I'm just Marcella. So, yeah.
Well, all right, BJ, your thoughts?
By the way, it does look like it's annual based on the annual—
okay. Yeah, I believe it's up to $1,000. But just some additional context, uh, this— it upset a lot of people because this came out of the Bitcoin community The idea was, as they were trying to court Trump into understanding crypto and Bitcoin, the goal was— because Bitcoin, whether you like Bitcoin or not, the, the thesis of Bitcoin is that it's a hedge against inflation. And the idea was you put $1,000 in the hands of young people, and when they go to retire— well, we see what's happened with Bitcoin. I've been begging people to buy Bitcoin since it was $1,500 a coin. It's now, what's it, $80,000 today? So the idea was over the long term, it would be a very valuable hedge against inflation. And Trump was on board. And then somebody whispered in their ear, they realized, you know, it's too early to use Bitcoin, I guess. And they just decided to switch it over to fiat. So the thesis with Bitcoin, if you put $1,000 in Bitcoin, you have 50 years in the future, then yeah, okay, that's going to end up significant upward volatility over your life. But with dollars, because of inflation, doesn't really have the same effect. And I think that's why it doesn't land as well as it was initially intended.
Okay. So Morgan, thank you so much. It says individuals with a modified adjusted gross income of $20,500 or less will be eligible for federal match of up to $1,000, which is 50% on the first $2,000 in annual contributions. To a workplace retirement plan or IRA based on their 2027 tax returns.
$20,500 or less per a year?
Yep.
I mean, that seems really low to the point where I don't know how many people would qualify for that if it was really that level.
Oh, you'd be surprised. No, this is what the point of it is.
If, if you only make less than $20,000 a year, are you gonna have $1,000 to put in this account so it can be matched?
I don't know, you might have a roommate, you might have a boyfriend or girlfriend you live with, and you're combining your incomes. Who knows? But if one person's making the $20,000— listen, I don't like wealth redistribution either, but if it's like these people are working and they're not on the dole in some other way, and they're honestly just trying to like get it going— listen, and if— and then if they start doing better and then they get out bracket, they're out of that bracket. But if they're in it and they're working and contributing to it, I don't know. I mean, I don't, I don't know if I like it or not, but that's just what's happening. Um, the young end of the age limit, I don't know, Bev. I think it's, I think it's just working people and that that's their— yes, adjusted earned income. So, you know, maybe it's just something you do at the start of your career and You know, nobody wants to stay at $20,000. It's not enough to incentivize you to keep a crappy job or not to want to grow, but it's something because you don't get like an IRA advantage when you're in a company like that. So maybe it's just, it's another way to start saving your money. Maybe you're working like at a, uh, you know, like you're 19 and you are working at McDonald's as your first job. We always used it, used to use it as a reference. So I'll continue to do that. But, you know, working at McDonald's is not supposed to be a career. It's supposed to be a stepping stone. Like, that's, you know, you're young, you're starting out, you work at McDonald's, you're like still educating yourself, putting out your resume, and you keep stepping up. But in that beginning part, it would be great if you had a way to have like an IRA-based situation, for lack of a better word. You're only making $19,000 at McDonald's. And so here's a way to put some of your own money in and start saving. I don't know, maybe that's good, but who knows. All right, so I didn't think it would be this controversial feeling, but it feels that way anyway.
Um, I mean, again, I, I'm all for encouraging people to save, and I do see that benefit that you might get some people to put money away for retirement that otherwise would not. And so I like that, and I wish it was also coupled with some kind of phase-out of Social Security because it would be a much better system than Social Security. And if we could get people to actually save it, even if we made it mandatory for them to save like like Social Security is mandatory. If they could at least put it in the stock market and it wouldn't be in a fund that Congress can go spend on whatever they want, then I think it would be a much better system. But I am kind of against the whole point of like, "Oh, let's just give matching funds to the poor people and not allow anybody who's actually making their own living to have the same benefit." To me, that is wealth redistribution. It's just saying, "Let's take some money from the taxpayers and give it to the people who probably aren't paying taxes." Mm-hmm. So I don't like that part of it.
Okay. All right. So let's move it on because there is more news. Okay. This is my last clip and then I get fully involved in the chat. You guys love it. Just kidding. All right. So in today's potential conspiracy theory news. Okay. So you know that Trump is saying like, release it all about the UFOs and the aliens blablabla. I'm saying allegedly, my opinion, my signs are here. Um, so what happens when he says release the dogs? Look at this.
Well, in the span of 24 hours, there have been 17 earthquakes near Area 51. It started with a 4.4 magnitude quake just 2.5 miles underground. The area is normally not prone to earthquakes this shallow, and it's leading to theories of nuclear testing or even UFOs because it all happened after President Trump said this.
Do you have an update on the UFO files and what might be— what we're going to be seeing?
Well, I think we're going to be releasing as much as we can in the near future. They want to find out about the UFOs and anything having to do with UFO or related material. And we're going to be releasing a lot of things from that we have. And I think some of it's going to be very interesting.
Joining us now to respond, Dr. Steven Greer, UFO researcher and retired physician. Great Great to see you, Doctor. So are these earthquakes just a version of burning the files at an embassy when people got to get out?
Well, you know, the thing that lights up in my mind is that back in the 1990s, I briefed a man who worked and designed the security apparatus at some of the facilities out there, particularly the ones up near Groom Lake and, and, uh, Pahut Mesa. And he explained that on the top of those complexes underground were like bunker-busting type bombs, but underneath them were thermonuclear devices so that if anybody was getting close to those facilities— and by this, if it could even be the legal government of the United States— they could collapse those facilities. Now, I don't know that that's what happened, but I know for a fact those security systems are out there. So that's one consideration. Now, it could just be a cluster of earthquakes, or they could be doing some legitimate underground testing out in that region.
Yeah, there are a lot of mountains out there, so earthquakes are not out of the question.
Mm-hmm.
All right, BJ, I don't know why, but I'm coming to you first on this. I just can feel it pouring out of you. Tell me what you think.
Um, I was watching this thing from Whitney Cummings, who is a comedian kind of on the left side, and she was explaining she was invited to a roast of Trump in New York many years ago. And so she went up and insulted him, made fun of his hair, was really ruthless, like really cruel. And but she said Trump, to his credit, was just there laughing. And she was shocked. And he said, she came up to me after and she said, that was amazing television. And I think that's what you're seeing. I think you're seeing the showman who understands how to get people emotionally engaged in, you know, this is the George Norrie coast to coast. Stuff that, you know, Scott Adams would talk about having a recreational belief that, yeah, it's fun to play with, it keeps people entertained. Is it serious? No, I don't think so. And I think it's also— we often forget correlation does not imply causation. And guess what? When you're close to a fault line and there's lots of mountains there, then earthquakes are gonna happen. I think that's all it is.
Mm-hmm. Marcela?
I mean, I, I think I told you just to Erica that I, I had a quake while the show was going on, I think, Monday. So it's, um, unfortunately—
hope—
I'm hoping it's the UFOs, Area 51, and it's the big one's not coming, because that really doesn't, uh— but what I also thought, it, it could be like, uh, uh, whenever Iran— no, not Iran, um, Russia or somewhere else, they have like an earthquake the size, um, that is not really necessarily um, like expected. They think it might be weapon-related testing. So I, I wouldn't put it past them that they're testing some kind of nuclear— some kind of weapon.
Mm.
Owen?
Well, clearly they're just moving all the flying saucers out because they know the disclosure is coming. So, you know, they got to get it out, and it creates a bit of seismic activity as they're making all these gravity-powered Crafts take off.
You people laugh, but something's going on.
I mean, you know, I, I think the interesting— one of the interesting parts is that it's relatively shallow. They're saying that's uncommon. I don't know if that's true, but, you know, it sounds like fracking issues. No, if it's like 2.5 miles underground, I don't know if they actually go that deep with their facilities. It'd be interesting to know that, but maybe it's all too secret and It's hard to know exactly what's going on there, but, um, you know, I, I, as far as the UFO disclosures, I'm still going to stick to I don't think anything earth-shattering is going to come out of that just based on how they're rolling it out. I just think if it was proof of aliens and proof of extraterrestrials, we're not alone sort of stuff, I don't think it would happen the way that it's happening. I think it would be some kind of official announcement from the White House from Trump, and he would have a whole team kind of like like with COVID where they'd be presenting things and trying to reassure people, and might even be coordinating with other countries and other leaders. And none of that's happening, right? They're just saying, we're going to release a bunch of stuff. Oh, it's interesting. To me, that means it's probably just going to be a few more videos like the other ones we've seen, where it's not really going to prove anything. It just looks like maybe something's there. Might still be some grainy photo. Maybe it'll be better quality, you know, video. But like, it's not gonna be proof because I don't think they would do it this way.
All right, in the chat, do you think mostly— okay, the majority of aliens are up in the air, like we— when we look up for a UFO, or in the water, like under the sea? So say air or water or sea. I just want to know. Well, I want to know what they think the majority is. The majority. Water. Or air. Um, and Owen, do I know— we know Scott's actually— I don't want to, I don't want to sway them. Air, water, sea, all water, caves. Thank you for thinking past the sale with me. Um, so we know Scott did not Oh, inside the earth. Ooh, under the water. I start thinking about it now when I'm on my boat. I'm like, what if like a UFO launches out from under the ocean now and my boat's right here and we go flying? And, or what if it like comes and like eats the boat? Anyway, these are things I, I think like this. Okay, y'all, um, we know Scott Adams does not believe that there are UFOs and aliens. He didn't believe in that. Owen, do I know what you think?
Um, I mean, I honestly, like, I, I probably mostly agree with Scott Adams. I don't really expect to see proof in my lifetime, at least, of that. But I think, um, I'm certainly open-minded to it, you know. It would be cool. I'd like to see it. A little bit like Joe Rogan, where he's like, I'd like to believe, I'd like to do it. But it's interesting with him that he kind of— the more that's coming out, the less he trusts it. Like, you know, for a long time he's like, oh, it's, it's out there, they're just hiding it from us. But then once the government actually starts releasing stuff and saying, oh yeah, maybe we— it is actually true. Now he's thinking, oh, this is all disinformation and they're not, you know, really telling us the truth. And, um, so I think it's much more likely that it is, um, just, you know, something like we've often suspected, where they just use it as a distraction or even a way to discredit people. And, um, you know, a strategic disinformation weapon basically to, um, control people to some extent, or control the people they, you know, that are in that community that they want to discredit. But, um, you know, again, I, I can't say for sure. I know there's been lots of theories about maybe it's some interdimensional being or some spiritual thing or angels or demons or other things. And so who knows? It's hard to know exactly what reality is. Um, and, you know, if we are in a simulation, that still would open the possibility that there could be aliens in the simulation. You never know.
Well, I know Marcela and I both have seen something that was unidentifiable, right? I have more than once. All right. I feel like I know what you're going to say, BJ, but what is your thought, opinion, theory? Do you believe in other life out there or alien UFO stuff?
You know, like I'm kind of an astronomy nerd. So I wish, I wish that were the case. And, you know, maybe in far-off galaxies, The odds of probability is likely since we've now found an abundance of H2O all over the universe now at this point, but they're never gonna get here. I mean, time distillation just makes it impossible. I don't know how— I just don't believe any of this sort of stuff. I think— I think what we're seeing is, you know, when Trump— before he got elected in 2016, He got Ivanka, yes, Ivanka and his, Ivana Trump, his, I think it was Eric Trump and one of the other kids, they spent like 4 weeks on the news and talk radio, just scanning all talk radio. What are people interested in? What do people want to hear me talk about? Because remember, he's a salesman. And this is a very big part of online media is this whole astronomy, space alien conspiracy stuff. You know, Coast to Coast went on for how many decades, right? And still on. It's still on.
Yeah.
And I love George Noory. It's great. I love to listen to it. I don't believe it's recreational belief, right? And I think this is Trump understanding how to tap into just regular people and give them, give them a little bit of entertainment. You know, let's, let's make this part of the Trump Show. I think that's what we're saying.
What about Tim Burchett and Ana Paulina Luna saying that they've seen crazy stuff in the What's crazy, Scott Adams?
Crazy stuff. It's that, it's that whole ambiguity that until I hear some specificity, because crazy stuff can be subjective, right? Because we all have different framings of the world. And that's, you know, that's that persuasion tactic of the curiosity gap where they say crazy stuff, but then you don't know what it is. So what do you do? We fill it in with, oh, it must mean that there are aliens amongst us, which is not necessarily the case. Maybe her interpretation of crazy stuff is we've seen weird things in, in the atmosphere and we can't explain what they are. You know, I wish— listen, I am team alien. If we, if we have them, great. I would love it. I am a Star Trek nerd. I don't see—
all right, all right.
You're safe.
I believe that they've seen crazy stuff and they may have seen crazy documents where it might have explicitly said we have extraterrestrials and biologics and all the other stuff that has been rumored for such a long time. But I, you know, again, how do you know if that's the truth or disinformation? How do you know if that's something that is real? Like, is, you know, you can't necessarily know just by either watching a video or reading a document whether that's the truth or whether that's just something somebody put in a document. And so it's really hard to know. But I would say when people make that argument that you made, BJ, about like, oh, there's no way they could get here, I just think that's kind of limited because you're basically saying we're basing it on the physics as we understand it. Yeah, like, like you're ruling out the possibility that there's a wormhole or there's other things that we don't understand where they might be able to get here instantly, as opposed to—
what about Owen? The pyramid coordinates and all of those things.
And yeah, what about that?
Owen?
Well, I mean, that's a mystery. I mean, it is. I, I don't know. I don't think anyone really understands when those were built or how they were built or any of that. So, but I think that, you know, I think even Scott Adams said at one point, if there was something, it's probably more likely some ancient civilization as opposed to somebody who came, you know, from Alpha Centauri or somewhere further away. And, um, I tend to agree with that too, that I think if there was some other species of intelligent life. To me, it would probably be much more likely, just probability-wise, that it was an ancient civilization that was wiped out at some point, and maybe there's still remnants of it. Or I think Scott Adams even said it could even just be drones that are left over that are kind of automated, where they just, you know, there isn't actually life, but there's some kind of machine that just keeps going.
And somebody said, um, I forget, it might have been on Rogan, I forget, but you know, the the little etchings into the walls inside of pyramids and ancient ruins. And they were like, that could just be a menu. Like people are like, oh, like they were trying to tell us something. And they were like, well, maybe it was like a menu for a restaurant. Like we have a little yak today and we have this and that. Like, you know, we don't know that it was some big secret message. BJ, were you going to say something?
Yeah.
Yeah. Related to that. And I think this is kind of the positive impact of AI. I talked about this on my stream that, you know, Göbekli Tepe, for example, which dates back, what, 15,000, 12,000 years ago, we didn't know what it was. And in the Western world, we favor religion. So, you know, when, when all you have is a hammer, everything becomes a nail, right? So they gave all the data around Göbekli Tepe to— I think it was Grok, if I'm not mistaken— spent a few weeks on it. And what it discovered is Göbekli Tepe was not an ancient ritual site, as what our bias would be. It's a calendar, and it's a calendar that showed all of these different environmental effects that had occurred, you know, storms and earthquakes and all that sort of— that's what Göbekli Tepe is. It's just explaining the history of what's gone on in that region. And then all the other, I don't know, tepes, whatever, because there's a whole bunch of them. They're the same thing. This is what was going on in terms of weather patterns in this region. So I think we just— our imagination gets the best of us. And I love it. I am a sci-fi nerd, by the way. Picard over Kirk any day, but only the TNG Picard. But I think it's just our imagination gets away from us. We gotta just dial it back a little bit. And when people say, I saw crazy things, it's great. I think we should defer to, well, I don't know, Oh, great, crazy things until I know what it is. I'm just not going to have a conclusion or an opinion on this until I know further. That's at least how I operate.
Well, that's smart. That's smart. It's kind of like we're just playing that if I won the lottery, what would I do? Yeah, for sure.
This is Friday Fun Days, right?
It is Friday Fun Day. It's fun.
I do remember that Brian Romelli said it's coming though. I know he made a reference to that on one of our prior streams here.
In July.
Oh yeah, in July. In July, y'all. All right, I'm a little excited, a little nervous, getting those— getting those buckets of meals ready. Um, okay, so Owen or Marcella, I know you guys cultivated some stories here, uh, curated some stories I should say. Um, is there anything that we really need them to know, the, the sippers, before the weekend gets going? Something super important that you have.
I'm waiting for Owen to say something.
I don't know, I mean, I, I, you know, apparently has been indicted again. So he's been indicted for, um, you know, some kind of like, um, classified document leaking, things like that. So it looks like he's in a lot of hot water, and, uh, I think he's now sort of playing the victim after this next indictment. So I think he's going to be going through the wringer here, which frankly I think he deserves. So yeah, um, you know, I, I know a lot of people have been kind of saying that this 86-47 thing isn't going anywhere, but I think now it looks like he's— I think it's 3 states now he's been charged in. So he's got lots of stuff to deal with. And, uh, I'm sure again the process is the punishment, even if he doesn't end up convicted. So I think he's going to be facing a lot of consequences financially, if nothing else.
Marcela, does this last one seem more sticky?
Yes, it does.
Okay, because this was like leaking classified information.
Yeah, I mean, it's more leaky. Yeah. And on top of that, um, you know, the cost of defending all this, this is gonna, uh, this is gonna push. But because of— because we're having elections, like, eventually, you know, we're gonna have another president, we're gonna have midterms. They might be used— Comey's situation might be used to get the Dems out, you know. Oh, do you want a state like this? You know, so I can, I can see it being detrimental to—
BJ, what do you think about this latest one with Comey?
I think this is a political negotiation and they're going to put maximum pressure on him and they're trying to get something on their side. You know, this goes back to the We only see 30% of what's actually going on behind the scenes, and there's often, you know, shots across the bow, and there's also active negotiations. Not just Trump that does— Trump just does it very effectively because he's a good negotiator in business, but this is standard issue in politics across the board. But I do think he's gonna— they're gonna do what they did to General Flynn, they're gonna do to Comey as well. And we'll see. We'll see what happens. He's not gonna go to jail. There's not gonna be any serious— this is just how the political class works, and I know it sucks. People don't like it. I don't like it either, but it's very, very, very rare that somebody in that inner circle of, or the top tier of politics, will ever see any sort of jail time because it becomes an embarrassment to the entire institution, to other FBI informants. It kills morale and that sort of stuff. It's bad enough right now, so I could be completely wrong, but I think that's what we're seeing. And always also never forget the Dilbert filter, you know, how much of things are just stupidity and incompetence, which often plays into things. But no, no, we'll see.
Speaking of the Dilbert filter, I pulled this up. I just, I love this today. So this was my mood today. So you see Dilbert and Dogbert, and Dilbert says, maybe I should become a teacher so I can educate the leaders of tomorrow. And Dogbert says, maybe you should educate the morons of tomorrow so they'll stop believing in the leaders of tomorrow. And then Dilbert says, maybe I'll just eat this donut and go to work. And Dogbert says, do you have any more dreams I can crush? It's just, I, I don't know, like that was like my mood today. I love that. It's so perfect. But, uh, I don't know the, the Dilbert filter. You're right. We have to remember to put that on everything. Um, Speaking of which, I have two quick clips if you guys don't mind if I play them. I wasn't going to, but we all could use a little Victor Davis Hanson moment, don't you think? And here he is. I just wanted to play this. He's talking about Hakeem Jeffries, although he calls him something like Hakim, which I don't know— I don't know how he said it, but I love it in the beginning, just kind of talking about the pattern of the left. And then I'm going to play another clip right after of what we all long for, and some of you may have already seen it, but let's go.
Hyatt Jeffries just came out and said, right before this, he said, "We're in a maximum war." And then remember during the big beautiful bill, he did his little braggadocio where he said, "We're going to stop this," and he got a baseball bat like he was going to club somebody. And then He came out after the attempted assassination. We gotta lower the rhetoric. And then people said, yeah, you should lower the rhetoric. And then he went berserk. Said, I'm not gonna back down. There's something wrong with that guy. You know, when you look at him, his eyes spin when he's thinking for a thought, like he's a deer in the headlights. It's really funny. So I don't wanna suggest it's autism, but there's something, he's not connected. He's like Swalwell. Both of them don't seem connected to the surroundings, you know, the people.
I got a sense he tries to mimic Obama's cadence.
He does, does.
Yeah.
And he's, he, I'm glad he's, he's a majority, a minority leader because he's pretty inept.
I just love that. There's just a couple of things I want to point out. You guys know Scott Adams always said it's the eyes, right? Is like they have those crazy eyes. And did you guys— do you guys notice that with him? I noticed that he's almost like expressionless, like he's like just vacant, and he is so monotone. He never makes an expression, but he manages to just say the most— I don't know, just, oh, I don't— I can't think of the right word. Like, it's not like vile, but like incendiary, just I don't know, like, I just find him so gross. And I totally, from day one, was like, this guy thinks he's Obama. The cadence, the whole thing. And that's why they call him Temu Obama. But do you guys have that same vibe with him? I'm gonna go to you first, Ellen.
I think he's a clown. I'm kind of glad he's their minority leader because I'd rather have him than many of the other potential alternatives that might be more effective. I don't really find him compelling in any way. I'm kind of surprised that the Democrats seem to look at him as a leader because I don't see him getting much done. I don't see him getting— doing much other than complaining all the time.
What do you think, Marcela?
I mean, you know, the— he's part of the designated liars. He came out, uh, after, like, uh, like it was said in the clip, that he came out after the assassination attempt month where he went crazy because they were like, lower your rhetoric. He's like, no. And like, he looked possessed. He does look possessed because he's more— he's a little possessed at the designated liar. He adds more than Chuck would and Nancy. Um, so I think he's gonna go far in the Democratic Party because he has that possessed, that evil possessed What's the word you're saying?
Possessed?
No, uh, yes, he's possessed, but that pizzazz, that, that, like, okay, like, I don't know, it's like, like there's this energy in his eyes and it's like, really, he's like possessed.
He's possessed with his pizzazz. Okay, BJ, I mean, I think, I think he's dangerous. Like, I, I know that he's, you know, like Owen feels that way about him, but I feel like I don't like him being where he is because if we lose some majority, he's— he does not give a crap about anything that has to do with keeping this country civilized. What do you think, BJ?
Um, I, I like Victor David Hanson. I disagree with him a little bit. I think he's not stupid. I think he's very intelligent. He knows exactly what he's doing. And, you know, kind of the indicator that if he's part of the designated liars, then you know this is a strategy, right? And the strategy is reciprocal extremism or reciprocal radicalization. And they tried to do that to us in Ottawa. I've seen this many times in politics in Canada. They try to say the most extreme things because they know they can get away with it. And they are trying to foster a reciprocal response to grow. Oh, oh, see, look, look at all these right-wing militias. Look at all these right-wing extremes. That's what Trudeau tried to do, even though it wasn't true. He tried to even state that to us, and I think that's exactly what he's trying to do. He's trying to make Republicans angry, and my suggestion is don't take the bait.
100%.
Just keep— just cool, calm, and collected. That's what they cannot argue with. That's why with us, peace and love and freedom, they didn't know how to deal with that because they're only prepared for the opposite side to get more extreme than than they are.
I agree. And especially now that the jig is up, like, you know, the Southern Poverty Law Center, we know, is, you know, buying this kind of hysteria. They're paying for it. So, um, so I just wanted to play one last clip, you guys. I know there's a minute left. Um, this is, this is how you handled life back in the day, and what I miss and long for so badly. This is after there was an assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan, and this is how Johnny Carson handled the situation. Like are freaking losers of like the Jimmy Kimmel-like. Okay, here we go.
Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. I'm sure that all of you here and most of you watching tonight understand why we delayed this program for 24 hours because of the incredible events of yesterday. That old adage, the show must go on, seemed relatively unimportant. The Academy, ABC Television, and all of us connected with the show felt because of the uncertain outcome as of this time yesterday, it would have been inappropriate to stage a celebration. But the news today is very good, as you know. The President is in excellent condition at last reports. He's been conducting business. And he happens to be in very good spirits. Uh, after all, you must remember this is a man who yesterday, while he was in the hospital unable to speak, wrote on a sheet of paper, all things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia. So tonight the show does go on.
Oh, I love that. All right, you guys, listen, the show goes on tomorrow. Owen, you're doing your After Spaces.
I am the after party tomorrow.
After Spaces, I don't know, that's a new one. All right, so you guys, tomorrow Owen will be on X at the after party. BJ, are you going on right now?
Yeah, I'm starting a stream right now. It's gonna be shorter one, but I'm gonna start in about 5 minutes.
Okay, everybody, thank you so, so much. Have an awesome weekend. We will be back Monday, and we thank Scott and Shelley for keeping this show going. Please be useful, be kind, and, um, let's have a closing sip to Scott. Say your goodbyes, you guys, we have to run. Okay, to Scott.
To Scott.
Thanks, Owen and Marcela. Thanks, BJ. We love you.
Love you all. We'll see you soon.
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