The Scott Adams School - 06/02/26 Jeff Callahan joins the Home Team

Hey, hey.

Is it Monday? No, it's Tuesday. Good morning.

Good morning. Scott visited us and gave us some tech issues to deal with.

I threw my printer out the window just for good measure. I thought that would be the right thing to do.

Smart.

Yeah, right? Look who's here with us. Jeff Callahan in the house. How you doing, Jeff?

Good.

Good. All right, sorry for the delay. Till then, I'm going to give you a quick creatine update, Owen. So, um, here's your warning, here's your warning, because Owen did say yesterday about, um— am I glitchy? Sorry, guys. Owen did say yesterday— what did you say yesterday? Oh, going slow, building up a tolerance or something.

Yeah, that you need to kind of start with a lower dose and work your way up. And just that it can cause some digestive issues if you don't— if you take too much right away. So don't go too heavy on it right away, but you can build up your tolerance essentially to it over time. So that's the way people recommend starting creatine.

So to my friends, my mother, everyone else that bought the creatine, Owen is right. I would have liked a little bit more specific information. But so I apparently don't— I didn't build up my tolerance yet. And I found out this morning when I was like, oh, and so now today I will be taking a half a scoop and then tomorrow a half a scoop and then I'll just do a regular scoop again. So go slow, go slow, or live and learn like me.

Yeah. And Badur puts out in the comments and he's correct. Or she, I don't know what that is, but, um, that with creatine you also should be drinking a lot of water. So just more water than you normally drink. You should have water with it. Maybe if you're already super hydrated, you're fine, but if you're not, you should start.

All right, good. So we're on the creatine journey together, and sometimes more is more information. I'm almost ready for the sip.

Almost ready.

I know Rumble, Rumble's playing with me. And just so we know, we'll tell you the date. June 2nd. Okay, here we go. Come on, Rumble. Come on. Did Scott have to invest in Rumble of all streaming studios? Yes. Okay, let's, let's hope for the best.

You're probably here to enjoy the simultaneous sip. I mean, why wouldn't you? It doesn't cost anything.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Yep, that's what's happening. All right, so you guys, what happened? I'm telling you, it's hysterical. In the meantime, what's this?

Oh my God, that's creepy, you guys.

I think he has too many teeth.

That is, uh, former President Barack Obama hired a DEI, uh, statue sculptor person for his toaster oven dehumidifier looking, uh, presidential library, and this is how he came out in the statue. I was like, that's kind of scary, isn't it?

I don't think I would really see that as Obama.

Michelle's next to him. I'll show you tomorrow. It's very, it's very—

is she any better?

No.

Well, I guess to be continued tomorrow.

Okay, it's time and I think we're ready. Oh, Scott, do it again.

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Mm-hmm. Just as good as I imagined, if not better.

Alien Baby said it needs more Juneteenth. Juneteenth. The statue. Oh my God, you guys are so funny. Oh boy, I can't wait to just zip it now and let everybody else talk, but you know me. All right, Jeff, what is today? Is today the final countdown?

The final countdown. Cue the music. So today is June 2nd, and today is voting day for the LA mayoral race, and we're gonna find out— maybe not today, because apparently like things a little slower in Los Angeles. Um, we might find out if it's overwhelming, I suppose, if Spencer Pratt just wins outright, which would be very interesting. Uh, but everything I've looked at says that there's a— feels that there's a really good strong chance that he's going to be one of the top 2 slots, uh, to move on past the primary stage. So I'm a, I'm a, I'm a believer in omens. Occasionally, and a hummingbird flew past my window earlier this morning as I was preparing for the show. So maybe that is a good omen.

I hand-fed two new squirrels and had a cardinal here. Is that good?

Yeah, that's good. That is equal. That's equivalent to one hummingbird, actually.

That's a telltale sign.

Imagine I turn my head and I see hummingbirds right by my window. No, it's not happening, but So what—

all right, so tell us, like, in case people aren't caught up, what is— so we've got Nithya Ramen Noodle Soup, we have Karen the Ass Bass, and Spencer Pratt Baby. So the thing is, so it's come, it's come down to the three of them, right?

Well, it's come down to those three is the, or the major candidates, but then you've also got, um, uh, at least two more candidates. And there may be some others that will like split like 1% of a vote, but there's, there's Ray and Miller, I believe. And all, all the consensus is, is like Rahman, I mean, boy, she, she can't stick to a message. And it's pretty— I call, I call both Bass and Rahman professional rake steppers because they, they're out in the yard, they're wandering around and they're finding every single rake available and then stepping really hard on it, smacks them in the face. Face, uh, where Spencer Pratt has done a masterful job of just staying on his topics. Uh, I will— I believe we'll play a clip from him and Bill Maher, but his topics of homelessness, drug, drug addiction, making LA safe, and those notes of, of, you know, basic safety, you know, on the Maslow's hierarchy of needs level, like It's really hard to counter that. And then you have Rahman and Bass just all over the place, uh, running pretty incoherent campaigns. And it's going to be really interesting to see kind of the, the turnout. And as ballots get brought back in, and knowing that there's a— we don't know how large the percentage of Democrats that are going to be voting for Spencer Pratt is, but it, it's probably going to be a sizable amount. So it's going to be very interesting to see how this plays out.

Okay, so I want to play first, um, you know, I don't know which way makes sense more, but it doesn't really matter. But I love both of these clips. All right, so let me do Spencer. Uh, as I mentioned, he was on Bill Maher yesterday on Club Random, and I, you know, Bill can be very intimidating. He's, you know, he's been in the industry forever. He's interviewed millions of people. He's older. Spencer's younger. They, they're completely different generationally and in the way they communicate. But I have to say again, and like, listen, we, you know, Bill can be a pain in the neck, but when he hears a good argument, he listens. So I thought that this clip was interesting, and I want you to see how Spencer's, like, his, his persuasion, and watch how Bill changes throughout this clip. I just think it's so interesting, and I loved every second of it. It's very authentic. I think Scott Adams would have been blown away by this.

Okay, took me 3 years to get the solar turned on.

Solar, something they want you to have, but now they're taxing you, I think, for having it.

They are?

I think so.

What do you mean you think so?

You have to know.

You know, there's—

I don't need to know about solar, you know. Okay, I need to focus on making sure the moms are safe and the animals are not being abused. That's, that's my party. I know, but if you're the mayor, the solar panels, that's going to be somebody I'm hiring. That's my deputy mayor is going to worry about the solar panels.

No, I got bad news. If you're the mayor, you are going to have to learn some of these issues more deeply.

Solar panels. We're about 3 years from worrying about solar panels. We need to get all the naked drug addicts off of the sidewalks, and then I can worry about solar panels.

But we can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

With the state of LA right now, the solar panels, you can spit that gum out. I love the idea of getting the drug addicts treatment and giving them job opportunities. And if we need more solar panels, personally, I think we got to investigate the LADWP, why you even need a solar panel. You pay so much money for regular electricity that we got to check why our rates are going up 10% plus every month and we're not getting better electricity. Alkaline water is not coming out of our tap. So I'll get back to you on the solar panels, but it's a little— my totem pole is make sure people don't have home invasions every single night, right? Make sure you're not losing your whole suspension because we haven't fixed a road. I'm basic. That's why I'm resonating. Common sense, basic stuff. The people that are struggling to live in LA right now, cuz it's so expensive and they're stepping in human poop, they don't care about your problem with the solar panel right now, but they may once I get rid of the poop and I make it more affordable to live, then they may want solar panels.

Brilliant. Wasn't that awesome? I mean, it, it's like 1,000%. I mean, you could just see that. I, I feel like parents can relate to that. Like when kids want something and they're like, you're so far from going to your friend's house, you know, for a sleepover based on all this other stuff that happened, like your failing grades and your bad attitude. You know, that's, that's so brilliant. Um, so Owen, I'm actually going to come to you first on that clip. Have you seen that one yet?

No, I just saw it now.

But amazing.

Yeah, I think it's the right way to go to just stick to his core message. And that's really what would, I think, cause him to either be elected or not, you know, depending on how many people that resonates with. But I think if he starts diluting it with, well, here's my plan for solar panels and here's my plan for whatever else that might be kind of irrelevant to his core message, I think it would just make it, you know, dilute the whole message and make people not as excited about, oh, here's the problem I want him to fix. Just like, you know, with Trump when he was saying he wanted to build the wall, or, you know, very key things. And certainly Trump had a lot more than just one thing, but I think it was still— he stuck to his core message. He wasn't talking about every possible little thing. He was saying, these are the things I'm promising you, these are the ways we're going to make America great again. It all comes together as one message. And I think that's what, you know, Spencer Pratt, I think, is doing at the mayoral level in LA. So I really hope he at least makes the cut at the primaries. It looks like he is, according to Polly Market, that he's well ahead of the odds for Rahman. But, um, you know, I— my bigger question would be in the, the general election. But let's get him, let's get him at least on the, on the ballot for the general election, and then we'll worry about that.

So Marcela, I'm going to play this other clip. This is, um, Doug Ellen, who is the creator of Entourage, which I loved like the first few seasons and then I checked out. But anyway, it was a great show, all based in Cali— in, uh, LA. So I love this because, you know, of course he'll give you the little pre-qualer. He did not vote for Trump. And of course, like, you don't have to vote with your party, vote with your best candidate. And, um, he's just had it. So I think this is great. He's a big Hollywood name and he's freaking had it. And I'm like, and if he's had it and he has money and resources, let's think about the everyday people. And then I'll come to you, Marcella, right after this for your reaction.

LA Times gaslighters. It's weird. One of 15 cameras that I now have at this house.

You guys, I just want to let you know there is profanity in this, so if there are kids around, I'm sorry, I can't bleep the profanity, but it's part of the whole feeling. So warning.

LA Times gaslighters. It's weird. One of 15 cameras that I now have at this house. Two German Shepherds, 3 legal guns 5 years ago, didn't lock a door here, but you know what happened? 2 animals invaded my house. And no, I'm not racist because they were wearing masks. I don't know if they were white. I don't know if they were Jewish. I don't know if they were fucking rabbis. I know they were animals because they invaded my house. I know I don't care what their excuses are like a lot of you fucking care. I know invaders of homes should get 20 years, but I'm not paranoid, so I don't believe your bullshit about the stats. And the crime, because everyone in my neighborhood has got the same problem. They're fucking all putting cameras and hiring security guards because we're all getting broken into. It's not made up, it's not false, and this city has collapsed in the last 5 years. There is no fucking denying it unless you have an agenda, and I don't know what that is. But you say, oh, Spencer Pratt has no experience, so how can we possibly think about this? What experience did Karen Bass have? Or Rick Caruso, who we know can build things, who we know can fix problems, when you made sure he couldn't win. So right now you're putting people in the same position that you did with Trump, who I did not vote for, by the way. You put him in by making sure we had no fucking options. Okay? And that's where we are in LA. And we want to fix this place because when we don't want to be forced out, I'm one of the people who made this city look great. I did it for years. I glorified it. I meet people all the time that moved here because show that I fucking created, and they hate it here now.

Hate.

You're on mute.

Sorry.

Thanks, Marcella. Um, I— that is like such real talk, and I love what he said there too about— did you notice what he said about Rick Caruso, how he's like, and you guys made it so he couldn't win? It's like he's outing, you know, the Democrat Party even more. Like, here's another guy who is competent and you made it so he couldn't win. So, um, Marcelo, just what's your take today on the whole thing?

Well, in regards to the Mar question about taxation, that's— I mean, even Mar should know the taxation is, is a governor, uh, only the governor and the legislature. Actually, it's through a proposition in California. In order to pass a tax, um, they have a law that says that you have to actually vote for it. So even if Pratt becomes mayor, he would not have anything to do with the solar panel situation. But, um, and that's coming in 2027. But in regards to this other— I don't know what was his name, the Entourage guy. Anyway, Doug Allen, you know, part of it is, um, at least from, from here, is like they need to take ownership of who they voted for because this has been The situation he's saying has been here for years because they've been voting, uh, for one party since, uh, 1997 or whenever the Riordan, uh, left office. So I wish in his message he would have been like, part of the reason we're here is because we voted this way, you know, but I welcome him joining the rest of reasonable people to, to make changes. So, you know, if they don't want to take ownership of the things that they voted for or wanted back in the past, then that's fine. I am happy that they want to vote for Spencer Pratt. Um, and I'm happy to see that other people, I believe, um, what was the guy from Frasier? What's his name? I'm so sorry. Kelsey. Kelsey Grammer came out, uh, pro, um, pro Spencer Pratt. Of course, um, your Kathy Griffin did not.

Wait, who's your— she's not my Kathy Griffin.

She, she was actually, um, interviewing Karen Vass, uh, I think yesterday on Instagram in her own account, and talked about how the LAPD is somehow a white nationalist.

Oh, oh, good for her.

Like, I, I don't know the percentage, but like maybe a majority of LAPD is Latino, as you want to call them, or Hispanic, or whatever you want to say. So that's kind of interesting that they're white nationalists. And when she said that, Karen did not— Karen Bass did not say anything against that and did not push back. And, you know, but this is what we're dealing with. We're dealing with people like like Kathy Griffin and other people that haven't— then, then want to be unreasonable.

Yeah.

Um, so, and then today it came out in the news, in the local news, that the results might take days or weeks to come out. So I don't know if that's— they're going to take days or weeks in order to defraud people, but How hard can it be to count the votes?

Uh, it's not hard, obviously, but you know, when you're cheating, you got to be crafty. Um, so Jeff, I'm going to come back to you. So I, you know, I'm, I'm kind of laughing at, you know, LA's so celebrity-driven, and then there's like all the normal people who are just like, just make my life better. I feel like the people that just want their life to be better are probably going to vote for Spencer Pratt because you know, they're not public figures. They don't care what anyone thinks. They're going to go in the booth privately and do their thing. But as far as— okay, like, is anyone old enough to remember when there was like the, um, Hollywood— what was that show called? It was like Battle of the Stars, and it was like this nighttime show you'd watch with the family, and the celebrities would battle it out doing tricks and whatever. So I'm like, what team do you want? Do you want the Kathy Griffin, Jane Fonda whoever team for Karen Bass, or do you want the Leonardo DiCaprio, Jamie Foxx, what's his name, the musician, David Foster, and Catherine McPhee, and like all these people, you know? So it's just like, okay, you've got the crazy radicals that still want more of what they have in LA, or you have these people that are like, I actually freaking love it here and I want it to be amazing again. So, you know, are you seeing that too? Yeah.

So In one of my articles I've written about Spencer Pratt's persuasion skills, I called him the look-around candidate. And I was watching a clip of Spencer Pratt on Gutfeld, and much to my surprise, he called himself the look-around candidate, presumably after reading my article. So I'll take credit for that one. But the reality is, is for just your average Angeleno who steps in human excrement on the way to get their Starbucks mobile order, or, or feels incredibly unsafe from walking around the city or, you know, taking their kids to the park or whatever it happens to be. Solar panels aren't on Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Safety is. And so at a certain point, your average person is going to be most impacted by bad policy that leads to mass sort of crime tolerance and deinstitutionalization and all those bad things. Um, but over time that trickles upwards, and that's why we're seeing more and more celebrities. And I would expect, uh, maybe we'll see it today if he— I'm assuming he moves on, uh, we're gonna see it even more in the future of the quiet Pratt vote turning into the loud Pratt vote. I think we're still in the stage of the quiet Pratt vote, um, but I think the more this goes on, more people are going to jump on the bandwagon. And I was thinking, my, my first reaction was, okay, well, a general between Bass and, and Pratt might favor Bass because you think, all things being, being roughly equal, more time would allow for maybe more shenanigans. But then I started thinking, well, that actually gives more people time to get on the bandwagon, and so it might really just absolutely be crushing for Bass on, on 4 or 5 more months of this, right? Uh, and so it's going to be really interesting to see how it shakes out, but the headline is You cannot ignore what you see in your daily environment when it relates to safety. No one could ignore that.

That's right. You can't. You know, you're right. Look around, look around. And decline is a choice, right? So if you're going to vote for the same people again, you're— it's just going to— it's just going to get worse from where it is. I can't even imagine. So, Owen, I was cracking up. I saw a post from Mike Lee. Former Senator Mike Lee, um, and his account is Based Mike Lee. And his quote was just like, you know, James Talarico, like, look, look at this, like, Stepford Wife. But this is so amazing. Like, so this is what a, um, a, like, a little curated, cultivated politician looks like. And this is happening in Texas, you guys. So we have to focus on Texas also. It's very important what's going to happen there. So here's James Talarico.

Well, you know, I've gone to every corner of Texas over the course of this campaign, from Beaumont to El Paso, from Amarillo to Brownsville and everywhere in between. And I can't tell you the number of people who come up to me at the end of these events and whisper, I'm not a Democrat, like they're in the witness protection program.

Oh my God. So everything's so scripted, so cultivated. And I just want to remind everyone, Owen, that he's also the candidate who said there were 6 sexes, um, and that, uh, Jesus was— oh my God, I don't want to get it wrong. Did he say trans? No, Jesus was non-binary or something. Anyway, this is what— and that, like, you know, he was running a vegan campaign, but now you see him eating like big chunks of meat, like he's trying to act more macho now. I mean, what the heck? Every— so he's like Abigail Spanberger times 5,000, and Texas should not be messing around with this stuff. But, you know, what, do you have any opinion on this guy at this point?

Well, I think he's totally fake, just like a lot of the Democrat candidates are. I think that it's kind of a clown show across the board. I mean, I know there was a lot of speculation, or maybe there's even evidence, that AOC was kind of recruited almost like an actor to play a role when she got elected. And, you know, she's doing very well in terms of getting elected and staying elected, I suppose. But I think, uh, you know, I don't think this guy has nearly the charisma of that. I think, um, I'm guessing it is— he probably had to practice a lot to make sure he didn't say the wrong things, to avoid all the mistakes and things that he's come out with in the past. I'm sure he's gotten a lot of coaching, a lot of, you know, don't say this, say this. And it sounds like this type of scripting might be the extreme version of that, where it's just, okay, don't deviate from this one word, just say it exactly this way every time, don't say anything else. And I think that hopefully would make him vulnerable as well, just like when Trump used that in one of his campaign debates, saying he just always says his talking points and that's it, and that's all he has. And so maybe we can take advantage of that. But, um, you know, they seem to be running these garbage candidates. I mean, going back to what we were just talking about, it's like we— they've left no good options for reasonable Democrats or independents to choose from on that side. They're always running the most radical candidates. They've got the Graham Plattner thing with the Nazi symbols and the sexting scandal and all these other things going on, to the point where in that one I think they're even starting to doubt on the Democrat side, you know. I think they were even talking about substituting someone else. Apparently there's some obscure rule that would let them swap out their candidate for somebody else, so they're looking into that.

And that's in Maine.

Yeah, yeah. But it's just across the board, it just seems like they're just picking the most radical candidates, the most progressive people, the most, you know, despicable people to run. And then like you said with Spanberger, you know, they try and clean them up for the campaign and just get them across the finish line pretending to be something they're not. And then as soon as they get into office, it's a Trojan horse. So that's what's going on here as far as I'm concerned.

And Spanberger was Virginia. So yeah, yes, he is Timu Beto O'Rourke for sure. They're doing the same photo shoots, the same weird— like, he's so— oh, never mind. I— so that That's kind of all I wanted to say because we will get more into Tallarico, into, um, Plattner. Oh my God, he's the gift that keeps on giving. Uh, he's running in Maine. What a wackadoodle. Uh, we'll talk more about him later, but I— all I could think about is LA. I want Marcella to live free, happy, and safe. Um, okay, so that being said, I'm gonna move on to a next topic. You know, you guys, you know, I'm just trying to get over to the chat. Okay, so Um, I want to follow up on the New Jersey nonsense. Um, here is— this is Jeff, uh, Jeff Van Drew. He is a New Jersey congressman. He's in South Jersey, and, um, this is what he had to say. Let's take a listen, and then I have one other clip I want to show you.

Joining me now, Republican New Jersey Congressman Jeff Van Drew, who was just inside Delaney Hall. Congressman, Good to have you with us. The governor, Mikey Sherrill, said that she doesn't know why these individuals started attacking people. And I want to get to, you know, what we just heard from Mark Wayne Mullin, the secretary, about people coming from Portland who were in this crew and who's funding them potentially. But just give us a sense, first of all, sir, what did you see in there? Who is being held there and why and what are the conditions?

Just the facts.

Well, just the facts. And I really dug in and we really looked at the entire place. Let me tell you, I was actually surprised how nice it was. I thought it would be okay, but I don't know that people know they have a soccer field there. They have major workout equipment of all types. They have medical care. They have a physician there. They have a dentist there. They have nurses there. They have all kinds of food. If you're allergic to a particular food, they have food for those that are allergic. They have food for those that are kosher. They have food for those that are Islamic, halal. I mean, this is better treatment than people generally receive in most places wherever they go. Uh, it is shocking what the left and the Democrats are doing. They have created this situation by putting out completely false and untrue information that it isn't nice in there. It is clean, it is safe, it is nice. And I got to tell you, I meet a lot of people from around the world and around the country. The conditions are there are better than 90% of the world lives in and probably half of America.

Okay, so before we even talk about it now, I just want to go over to Mullen. Who, who is he talking to? Let me just check. Okay. Oh, he's just having a press conference. So here's DHS Secretary Mullen, um, and what he had to say about it, and then we'll chitty-chat about this after.

Individuals that came in from Portland, not from New Jersey, came from Portland to lead. We've seen that they've been well supplied. Uh, we've seen, we've seen Antifa flags being flown. And once the state police came out, and which by the way, awesome group of guys, uh, they understand crowd control very well, and they started pushing the individuals back after, after they warned them. I started making arrests. You saw that the situation quickly got under control. And for us, when we first started calling, they were simply saying they didn't have the resources. And, um, it's interesting to me that they finally found the resources and, and, and started clearing their streets. Uh, we can control our building, we can provide security for our own building, but if the city and state streets—

it's—

that is their job to do.

However, we will do it if we have to protect our employees Okay, so the only thing I want to say, then I'm going to give it over to, um, actually, Jeff, I'm going to start with you on this. Um, but what I want to just say is the New Jersey State Police, our New Jersey State Troopers, are next level badasses. They are so freaking good. Um, so I want to give them a shout out. Um, if I am speeding, I will link you to this, but, um, so you can see that I love you guys. But they are— no, they're like next level. They're They're pretty great. Um, so this is important, you guys, because as you see, these are— this is not organic. This is just for chaos. This is paid for, funded. It's George Soros, it's Antifa. It— no one's really from New Jersey there. We're not. We have other things to do. So, um, Jeff, what have you heard about this situation?

Yeah, so in my opinion, like, the Antifa issue is one of the more important issues of our time because you can't have a segment of society that's basically like a roving caravan of rioters and domestic terrorists, right? And to your point of being bussed in from across the country, what I would like to see is— well, and I think Markwayne Mullins is on the right track with this, saying like, just calling it what it is, like these are manufactured situations. I would love a tour of the inside of the DHS facility where, you know, they've got the basketball court. I think it's one thing to say it, but I think to really sort of drive home the point, like, have pictures of the basketball court, have pictures of all the different types of food, you know, and then it just— it takes the inhumane condition argument completely away from these Antifa rioters. And I I understand that, uh, there's now come out that it might be the DOJ, and we need to fact-check this, but the— it might be the, the DOJ is starting to open investigations into Neville Singham. Uh, and so some of these other funding groups, be it Soros, be it Singham, uh, sounds like these, these networks are being systematically— at least having pressure applied to them which once the funding dries up, guess what? They can't afford gas to go from Portland to New Jersey. And so it's the reach. And so I'd like to see more stuff along those lines.

Okay. I like that. Marcella, any take on this?

I mean, you know, to me it's kind of having them, having us think past the sale. What right do these people detained have to have a soccer field, to have a basketball? If they don't like the situation they're living, they need to go back. That's how I see it, you know. If you don't like the way you're treated here, go back to your country, because that's just— it's just, I hate seeing it because as an immigrant, you are also judged by these people. Um, just the same way. And so it makes me go crazy to see some of these groups who most— there are groups that are lawyer-based and they are doing a lot of lawsuits, a lot of things of, oh, they need this, they need that. You know what? No, it's a privilege to be an American. It's a privilege to be here if you weren't born here. Um, in that whole situation of what an immigrant should be and what, what we were in the past, it's gone out the window. Now they get to be halal or kosher or whatever you need to be. No, you need to adapt to being here, adapt to the rules here. If I were to go to Saudi Arabia, I would have to wear, um, not just— well, I don't know, the rules have kind of lessened now, but I would, in certain areas, I would have to wear a hijab and something even an abaya, like, which is like the whole dress, you know, because I have to adapt to their country. When you're here and you are in America, you should be able to adapt to this country.

And well, and let's also, let's also remember these people are being detained. They're not on vacation, you know, they didn't check into a hotel that's not accommodating them. They're being detained because they came here illegally. You know, like we forget.

I think the government should give them a choice. If you don't like it here in your detention center, here's the— here's a flight to wherever you came from.

Yeah, I— it's crazy. All right. Oh, and your take? Sorry. No, you're right.

Well, I think it's— it just couldn't be more obvious that this is orchestrated. It's paid for. It's not organic. It's just all for show. It's all performative. It's all intended to create violence and chaos. And I said some of this, I think, yesterday when we were talking about it. But, you know, it's— it just seems like it's all a show and it's all for that purpose. So I think it should be treated that way. I, I tend to think from our standpoint, a lot of the response should just be to ignore it because it's just not significant. It's not real. It's just political theater and that's it. And, you know, yes, we should arrest these people, and especially if they're getting violent or violating any other laws. I think we have been arresting people who violated the curfew. I saw a story about that. And so I think they're doing the right thing to arrest people when they're breaking the rules. And, um, otherwise I just think this is all for show. It's not real. It's not— there, there is no real issue here. There's nothing that they're really fighting for that makes any sense, right? And so I think it's just all, you know, again, manufactured like Jeff said. And it's, um, something that'll probably just go away and then we'll see another one in some other city and the same people will be there.

Well, so that's, that's what I was going to say. Now, from a persuasion standpoint, um, you know, tell me in the chat, does are they helping the issue of, you know, ICE is bad by having these riots, or are they making it like, oh my God, ICE, get everybody out? So because from a persuasion point, you're just pissing everybody off. Like, you're making me now— like, especially because who are these people? They're screaming like lunatics for people who came here illegally. You know, what came first, the chicken or the egg? Like, was Did this all become a thing because they showed up to riot and organize a riot? Yes. So now from a persuasion standpoint, people are sick of this stuff. And I'm like, you know what? Get everybody out. Get those people out. If you're an American, get them out too. Bye-bye, you gotta go too. There's gotta be—

Bring me to Alaska.

There's room on the plane.

Listen, get them out.

I think the answer is it's both. It is effective to mobilize their voters. I think because I don't know, it raises the visibility issue. As long as it keeps getting headlines and people are talking about it, then, you know, people will see it as a big issue. If they don't do this kind of thing, then Trump will continue to do the deportations and it won't really matter to people because I don't think it really does matter to most people. But if they keep saying, oh, there's all this violence, there's all this rioting, and it's this big issue because they're mistreating these people and they're doing all these things they shouldn't be doing, then it keeps it in the headlines, it keeps attention on it. I think it also pisses off people like you and me that says, okay, maybe we should just take care of this once and for all. So I think it probably has a dual effect on both sides.

I'm just like, drop a net on everybody, scoop them all up and put them in that detention center, and we'll sort it out from there. But, uh, yes, Jeff, did you want to chime in?

One other thing I would say is just, it's no different than what they did with Trump, where they just kept beating their own base over the head every day with all supposed bad things that Trump was doing, so that they were essentially torturing their base, saying, you got to do something, you got to get rid of this guy, you got to do something. And it probably is partly meant to spur more assassination attempts— we've already had however many— and it's also meant to get people out to vote to neutralize him in the, in the midterms, and then, you know, probably to try and— they'll redirect it to whoever takes his place in 2028.

Yes, Sandy is reminding us Obama deported 3.1 million people. But now, oh, I don't want to get into like a whole other thing with, um, Bavino and everybody, but apparently there's way, way, way more people here than that, you know, flooded over than we can imagine. And it's like upwards of 100 million people, he said, that came across. He's the one that— he used to be Holman's job, but they're like, he's too much. And then they had to get rid of him. He's like, no, it's way worse than you thought. But actually, can we move on from this for today just to get to some other news? Are you guys— or any final words on it? No, no. Okay, all right, so let's move on. Um, okay, first thing I want to talk about is, um, you know, all the fraud that we're finding. And really, it's just an excuse to have Stephen Miller, uh, clip on here because, you know, we're Stephen Miller stans, we love him. All right, so this is a new segment called 60 Seconds of Stephen Miller, let's go.

But what we found since President Trump came into office is that the Democrats have set up a system to funnel hundreds of billions and ultimately trillions of dollars to migrants that are in our country, oftentimes from places like Somalia. So as an example, ICE recently asked a group of illegal immigrants that were in detention whether or not they were receiving Medicaid. Half Half of them raised their hands and volunteered that they were on Medicaid, just volunteered that. These aren't the ones who are hiding it, right? They also asked illegal aliens how they paid their medical bills, and they said that if they don't have Medicaid, they go to hospitals, they get free care there, and they bill it to the taxpayers. So they aren't paying for any of their own healthcare in this country. This is one example. And we've seen this over and over and over again. So under President Trump's leadership, and then of course with JD. And the head of the FTC, Andrew Ferguson, we are going to see the first ever effort in American history to reclaim the ultimately trillions of dollars that were stolen from taxpayers.

All right, is my hair on fire? I feel like it.

Yes.

Oh my gosh. So Marcella, this is crazy talk. All right, so first, you know, the food's not good enough. I'm gluten-free, I have a dairy intolerance, I need something, you know, from my culture to you know, oh, I'm on, I'm on all your benefits. Yeah. What is happening?

And you know what's crazy is that there's been, um, at the top of my head, I don't have the, the, the exact information, but there's been pamphlets found in Mexico and in other parts of Central America where it indicates what you can get as an immigrant if you come here illegally.

Mm-hmm.

And they were trying to put it back to Soros and to all those groups and all of that. But they're told what to do. They're also told that it's legal to do fraud, basically. A lot of these people that come here, it's the people that I know that come here that are from Latin America, a lot of them don't know how to read, even in Spanish. You know, they have difficulties not defending them, but at the same time, they're inculcated, they're taught by different people here that are part of the NGOs and nonprofits how to milk the system. And some of the milking is bordering on basically illegal. So I'm glad that the president and Miller are looking into it because it's, it's a huge— it's like I talk about Pratt and the homeless complex. This is the immigrant industrial complex. There's a lot of people getting paid by this as well. So that's why they don't want it. It's not just votes, it's a huge— it's an industry.

Yeah, the Medicaid issue. Yeah. All right, Jeff, your, your take?

Yeah, you know, I, I just think about, um, a while back I did a little bit of a deep dive in the concept of spoils versus reform. And throughout history Like, there are many examples of reform having to reform sort of the spoils system. You know, some of it's taken place in politics, some in the church, and other things, right? So there's always going to be a mass resistance to any type of reform because no one who is benefiting from any type of spoils, be it in our present day NGOs and these various industrial complexes, if they're benefiting from the spoils, they're going to resist reform. And I think, I think in a way it's all connected when you think about just the, the— one of the worst crimes in American history has been perpetrated on just the, like, the average taxpayer and even specifically the middle class, who is kind of the driving economic engine to the country. And, you know, like, talk to someone on April 15th when they pay $5,000 or $10,000 in tax and say, oh, well, you know, the good news is we're giving all this stuff away. We're giving all of it away. How enthusiastic is that person to participate in the system? That's right. And, and it is, it is the ultimate signaler of we did have a high-trust society. Now we have a low-trust society. If we're having to guard against fraud, we have to clean it up. That's the bottom line. And we have to get back to something approximating just people partaking of government resources in good faith and government giving them out in good faith. But the only way you can even possibly get there is by checking and auditing and clawing back and turning off the money faucet.

Right.

It's at the end of the day, it kind of comes back to supply and demand. If there's too much Uh, if there's too many people, guess what? All of your everything is going to be constrained. This is very simple economics.

That's right, that's right. Um, Owen, I have a question. Would you mind— I want to make sure we get to the Iran story, and I want you to talk about that. Would you mind if we switch over to that?

Go for it.

Okay, let's hear a clip.

Well, as you said, President Trump is the one who's going to make that decision, and President Trump alone. He's directly, personally involved in the negotiations, making sure that the results are up to his standards. As you've outlined, Iran has made significant, material and dramatic concessions to the United States that would have been impossible only a short time ago, because of the military battlefield defeat that they have suffered and the embargo continuing to choke the life out of their economy. But let's understand something else. It's very important to baseline this all on where we are today versus where we started. When Obama signed the Iran nuclear deal, the so-called JCPOA, Iran was on a guaranteed path to a nuclear weapon, to being the dominant power in the region, to being the richest and most militarily threatening nation in the entire Middle East, with the ability to launch ballistic and ultimately nuclear weapons to Europe and eventually the United States. Now, because of President Trump, their economy has been dismantled, their nuclear program under Operation Midnight Hammer has been obliterated, their entire defense industrial base has been eradicated, their navy's at the bottom of the sea, their air force at the bottom of the sea, their entire leadership class has been decapitated. It is the most complete complete, thorough, total military thrashing in the history of armed conflict. 4 weeks and a country decimated to that degree, to that extent. And now here we are at the end of that with the Ram putting on the table a complete reopening of the strait, as has been discussed, and many other concessions that are going to be unveiled in the time to come. But again, there's no deal until there's a deal. Nothing's final till it's final. And President Trump has been clear that he reserves the option now or at any time in the future to do whatever is necessary to defend and protect America's national security.

All right, all right, Ellen, go. That's a— it's a lot, you know. It just— I didn't mean it that way, but you know, it's just like it changes all the time. And actually, before I say go, You know, again, one of my concerns was that, you know, we're, we're in this with Israel, right? With Netanyahu. And so it's like, okay, if we're making a deal and then Netanyahu does something that's not part of our deal, it's messing up our deal and it's making the war stay. And that's a problem. So actually, Owen, I do want to just quickly play this because this came out in Axios. Um, it's verified true. So here we go.

The president even called Netanyahu today, asking him to stand down in Lebanon. Trump kind of lit him up. According to Axios, he told him, quote, "What the eff are you doing? You're effing crazy. You'd be in prison if it weren't for me. I'm saving your ass. Everybody hates you now. Everybody hates Israel because of this." 47's trying to nail down this peace deal, and Netanyahu's trying to lock in in as many gains as he can before the deal's done.

Yeah, I mean, I would too if I was Netanyahu. Like, let me do as much as I can for our benefit while I have my big daddy, you know, fighting my fights for me. So Owen, that was a lot for you to take on, but you know, but you can do it.

Well, I think certainly there is the whole controversy around Netanyahu. He's got some kind of corruption charges that have been put on hold while they they're at war. And so I think there's certainly some interest on his side to keep this war going as long as possible. And I think it does seem like there's plenty of evidence to support that, that, um, both with Iran and even Gaza. I saw a story that he was planning a new attack in Gaza. So it almost seems like he's just trying to figure out how can we stay at war, um, you know, to prevent his own problems from coming to fruition, which probably will at some point. Or I know Trump has been trying to get him to put it aside and just make that a non-issue. And asking them to just pardon him so that this wasn't an issue. And I think that, you know, in the world, in the geopolitical arena, it probably would be a good idea just to say, okay, we don't want to stay at war and have a whole bunch of people die just so that this guy can try and protect himself. Let's just take that off the table, you know. And I don't have really any comment on those charges. I don't even know all the details around them or how real or fake they are, but I think that certainly is an element to this that seems to be significant. And Um, I do think, yes, we're in it with Israel, but at the same time, we're not necessarily joined at the hip. You know, we have our agenda, and I think some people are thinking Israel is telling us what to do. I don't think that's true at all. I think we're definitely the dominant player, and we're telling them what to do more so than the other way around. But again, we don't directly control their military or control Netanyahu, so they may go outside the lines sometimes. And, um, I think that's what we're seeing, but you know, this whole negotiation has been kind of what I've described as like the Schrödinger's cat. You know, we don't really know if it's over or not over or where we're going from here. And I think we're still in that state where it could go any direction. We could end up with more strikes. We had a bunch of, you know, what you might call violations of the ceasefire where they attacked our base in Kuwait and we did some attacks on them, which we describe as self-defense. And, you know, they're saying that, oh, you attacked us, so we're going to retaliate. And so So I think there's all these different things happening and it's a very complex situation. But, um, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it— I, I'm hoping that we will get to a peaceful close of this relatively soon. I think it's in everyone's best interest to do that. Um, but I understand there is a lot of complexity here. There's a lot of players with different agendas even within Iran, that you've got the IRGC, you've got, you know, the mullahs, you've got all the different players, um, going back and forth. There were rumors— I don't know if they're true or not— about, um, the president resigning, or at least offering his resignation, and then the IRGC would be more in control. And so there's all kinds of politics being played potentially in all kinds of different ways this could go. And so I do think that Trump has made a lot of progress in terms of getting to a better resolution and degrading their military capabilities, but to what degree is still also a question. There was a story that they had dug out the tunnels to get into their missile bases. I don't know if we're going to drop some bombs on them on their way out or what's going to happen there. But, you know, there's still a lot of open questions in my mind about how this is going to play out.

Oh, boy. All right. That was a good assessment. All right, Marcela, did you hear Stella? Yeah, I did. Okay.

She wants to talk about Israel. She's like, you know, in Netanyahu's defense, Um, Israel was attacked quite a lot even yesterday by Hezbollah, um, and they've taken over, um, a certain fort in Lebanon, which is in the, in the area, the borders Israel and Lebanon. Um, I mean, the issue is that if you are constantly being attacked, um, by another country— not by another country, but by an entity like Hezbollah— you want to be able to defend um, so I mean, we can be here talking very like peacefully about, oh, you know, stand down and do all these things, but at the same time, he is the leader of their nation. And so if you're being— if we have rockets come into our cities, we'd have a very different, um, take on it, the same way that Hezbollah and Lebanon have their own take because they get rocket pockets too. So that's why the Middle East is like quicksand. It's like there's no— like, it's— there's no easy, quick solution as, um, as Trump wants. But maybe he is the one and only person that can make this happen, right? He knows how to make deals, and he knows how to put people's, um, people's, uh, you know, he, he, he has you. He's able to lead you past the sale of peace. Because I think that's why he talked to Netanyahu in that manner. I think they do— they, they get along, but he went hard on him because he wanted to push him to stop doing what he's doing. Yeah, because that is the thing. If someone— it's like, it's like someone— I don't hits you back and you want to hit them back and all that. But Trump has to be this way. Um, so the people that say that, that America is basically being told what to do by Israel is— that's just completely complete nonsense to me. Okay.

Um, I just want to get Jeff into—

go ahead.

Yeah, sure. Yeah, you know, at the end, at the end of the day, you do get the sense that Trump wants to bring, bring this war to a close in whatever quickest fashion that means. And I, and I'm glad Owen brought up the pardon thing because I hadn't thought about that in a while. But then it was like, oh yeah, of course he was trying to kind of go behind everyone and get a pardon for Bibi so that maybe that was a vector to make everything stop so that he wouldn't, he wouldn't, maybe wouldn't feel the need to continue slinging, slinging rockets or whatever. Um, I think at the end of the day, Amer— like your average American, like your farmer, like your, your person who's concerned about the price of gas, like they, they need some sort of signal that, hey, it's going to be over soon. Let's get this war over and focus on domestic issues, especially with midterms coming up. Because that's really, at the end of the day, like that's, that's what's going to be the important thing for people is like, hey, do I feel like there's like we're moving in a positive direction. Uh, and if that can be satisfied, then it's going to be good for America and good for Americans.

I agree. Yeah, so once again, it brings it back to— I remember feeling as, you know, middle class, you know, doing all the work, paying all the taxes, hiring all the people, showing up for the jobs, and nobody cared. They were like, we just need more of your money, we need you to keep doing the things so we can keep doing our thing. And I feel exactly like that again. I really do. I feel like the middle class is once again forgotten, and It's like everyone's running amok in different directions, and it's like, you better come back to your bread and butter because that's the middle class. Um, so you guys, this was a great show. Everybody had really good different opinions and insight. I love that. Um, so Jeff, we have to stay tuned about, you know, what's happening in LA. Remember, we want Marcella to have a good life over there. Yeah, even better than she's having now. So you guys, On Thursday, tomorrow it'll be the home team. I believe it's going to be the three of us. And on Thursday, I told you I had a surprise for you. Brian Romley's coming back on. He's been so, so, so, so busy and we finally nailed it down and he's excited. I know you guys are excited. I'm thrilled. So he'll be back with us Thursday and that's all I'm telling you for now. And So listen, sorry that we started late. Rumble was rumbling. Um, please do subscribe to our shows. Please. Oh, also, you guys, tomorrow night— that, that's what I was almost forgetting— I'll be back on Locals with Jeff Callahan and Jeff Pilkington, which you guys met once on Scott's Locals. And we're going to be talking about being a writer in the day and age with AI because Everybody's having different challenges with it, and they are both writers, Jeff and Jeff. And, um, I think it would be really good because Jeff Pilkington is having a particular issue, and I thought, let's go on and workshop it. You know, maybe Jeff and Jeff have advice for each other, what maybe you guys will have advice for them. So we'll be back on Scott's Only, uh, tomorrow at 8 PM Eastern. Okay, so let's see if we can help them out and come up with solutions for everybody. All right, Owen and Marcella, any closing words?

Well, I just wanted to remind everybody, if you're in California, vote for Steve Hilton, uh, Spencer Pratt if you're in LA, and as well as Michael Gates for Attorney General. Um, and, uh, you know, every— and, you know, if you want to, uh, vote any incumbent out that is a Democrat, for sure.

And Jeff, any closing words?

Two. One is I see in the comments, Happy iDoc is enjoying my book. And I appreciate that. That's cool. And then I saw Andy Wang had a comment earlier that said that I was the onion ring in the bottom of the French fry bag. And there's no higher compliment. So I'm proud to be that onion ring.

When you're like, oh, look.

I thought you were the onion in the hamburger, but maybe I misread his is common.

No, the bottom of the french fry bag, I love that. That's happened before. And Owen, any closing words?

Yeah, well, um, there was a story I posted, was a story about Scott Adams. It was a callback to when the FBI, um, was apparently investigating and, and like asking for information about some of the interactions. It had to do with the Matt Gaetz controversy where I think they were being extorted for something and they just happened to be having some texts related to that that were between him and Scott, and then FBI like requested all his Twitter records and somebody FOIA'd it. And I don't know, what I would just say about it— I don't— we don't have time to talk about it a lot now, but just like, I don't agree with how the author talked about Scott Adams. I thought it was kind of hilarious that he called Scott Adams a right-wing shock jockey, which I'm pretty sure nobody—

really, really on the mark.

Yeah, but, um, it really struck me The article was like they were hoping to write this hit piece on Scott Adams, and then they were disappointed because there was nothing there once they got their FOIA information.

Yeah, I remember when that all was going down. Um, so you can find that story on Owen's feed on X at Owen Gregorian. Okay, you guys, so thank you so much. Start saying your goodbyes, and then I'll see, um, some of you tomorrow night with Jeff again. Okay, so if you want to see the onion ring, he'll be back on tomorrow night on Locals. Um, as always, we thank Scott Adams and Shelley for allowing this to go on. And we thank all of you for showing up, which just keeps us going and keeps it going. So have a great, great day. Let's have a closing sip to our beloved Scott Adams, and we'll see you in the morning.

To Scott Adams.

To Scott Adams.

Be useful.

Time to feed Stella.

Bye everyone.

Stella!