The Scott Adams School - 06/08/26 SCOTT's BIRTHDAY SHOW! The Home Team Celebrates!! Don't Miss It.

Scott Adams turns 69 in this birthday livestream with Erica, Owen, Marcela, and guest Joel Pollak. They riff on politics, IPOs, and Scott's upbringing in Windham, NY, while Joel discusses his ongoing biography project. The show closes with a tribute to Scott's humor and legacy.
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Getting her going. Are we live?
Good morning, everyone.
We are. Yay!
Oh, I don't see us live. Let me— oh, here it is.
Good morning, everybody.
Oh, there we go. Good morning, friends. It's another Monday, but it's not just any Monday. It's our Scott Adams birthday, his 69th birthday, and I expect all the jokes you would have made if Scott was here to read them. So don't slack off, okay? Uh-oh, I don't see somebody. Hmm, interesting. Okay, you guys, so we are going to give you a second to get in and we are going to get this sip going. Oh, you guys, tomorrow we have Akira the Dawn on and we're debuting two songs. One you guys heard Yeah, one I gave you the sneak peek of, but the other one you haven't heard yet. So that'll be coming up soon. Marcela and Owen, did you have a good weekend? I just want to check something.
Yeah, I had a great weekend. Tell us. Did all the normal spaces. So spent a lot of time with my friends from this community.
You did two spaces. And Marcela, you had a good weekend?
Oh yeah, I did. I re— as I told you, I researched MKUltra already. I am wearing my little hat, and I think everything's a conspiracy now.
I love it. All right, well, let's do the sip, and when we come back, we're gonna get into all the things. Okay, hang on because it is time. Where's my sip? Here it is. Let's go!
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Oh, Jesse.
I like calling that— I just, I think we should all keep calling it George Clooney disease.
Why?
That's what we call— oh no, I'm sorry, it was Tom Hanks disease.
Oh yeah, I'm like, wait, what did he do? I'd like to rail on George Clooney, so tell me for sure.
Tom Hanks disease, let's stick with that.
Tom Hanks disease. Perfect. Oh my gosh. So, okay, this is so funny. Did I not just say a prayer to Scott? Marcela, I said, Scott, are you gonna give me technical glitches today? Am I gonna throw my printer out the window? Like, is this going to be a birthday joke? Uh-oh, joke's on you. So, um, we do have some news and stories for you guys, but we wanted to just, uh, again say happy birthday to Scott. And you guys have been writing great stories and, um, posts on X that I think we should definitely flood the, uh, flood the interwebs today with things like that. Um, Owen, you had some interesting stories today. Do you want to just give us a little one in the meantime? Not to put you on the spot, but you had some good ones.
Let me get to that. I wasn't—
I have stories too. Marcela does too. Go ahead, Marcela.
Um, As you know, California, the fraud state of, uh, Soviet Union or whatever it is. Um, just yesterday the LA mayoral race, um, had Pratt second, Bass first, and then third came Nithyan Raman. But somehow they found votes, they found some somewhere, um, and she became the second candidate in the runoff. So it looks like she will be running against Karen. Um, two Karens running against each other. The other thing that was interesting is that Spencer Pratt did, um, post on X that he said that the 43,000 votes that were found seem familiar to him. That's because 43,000— um, there's about 43,000 homeless um, in the LA area. So that was interesting. Oh, cool connection with that boat. But anyways, um, there was an interview with President Trump, I believe yesterday, with Meet the Press, or maybe it was Saturday, I'm not certain. But I don't know if you guys seen it, but he went— I mean, that woman kept going and going, and she was like— but the reason I'm bringing it up is that he brought up California and the debacle of the California is because California is still not finished counting votes. And to a California and a person that's very much like has lived in LA, to us, this is not anything weird. This is how things are done here.
I heard India. What does India have? 800 billion residents. They count in one day with 800 billion residents.
It's actually funny you bring up elections somewhere else because there was an election yesterday for president or prime minister. Possibly Prime Minister of Armenia. And it happened yesterday, and they already kind of— they had 50% of the vote counted, and they, they already knew who won. I mean, it's— it is. So I don't know if you have any—
they definitely could do it, but I, I think the, the biggest reason, of course, is the mail-in ballots and the fact that they're allowing mail-in ballots to arrive, like, even if, you know, 5 days later. So they literally don't know how many ballots they're going to have for probably a week after the election, right? It's just ridiculous the way they do this.
Is California a lot more corrupt than Illinois and New Jersey? Are we winning the race?
I mean, you guys I think are just more experienced, but we're like surging ahead.
It's like a competition.
New Jersey's out of control, so I don't know.
What's her name? Christine Welker. Welker. Welker.
And she was really disrespectful, overtalking the president like that.
She got really crazy on him.
I was shocked.
I was surprised because it's like, even if you're fake news, you pretend, uh, yeah, but you don't interrupt the president like that either.
Like, he's trying to talk and she's like, let's move on to top— let's move on to Blanchett. And I'm like, oh my God, you're actually talking over the president who's sitting here giving you all this time. She is so disrespectful with such an agenda. You guys, why? I can't get ramped up on a Monday. It's too soon. Too soon. Yeah.
And he did walk out. Just to complete the story for anyone who hasn't seen it, he ended the interview early, and she of course then turned around and started begging like, oh, I came all the way to Wisconsin, we should finish this, come on. And he just said, nope, we're done.
Oh my God, you guys just see me biting my fingernail? It's okay, it's okay.
Well, this week I'm going to become a trillionaire, so that's okay.
Oh my God, amazing.
We all are, you know, if we buy the IPO for SpaceX.
Oh yeah, so can we all buy it? Everyone can buy this?
You can on, uh, Robinhood, and you can actually like without having to have a huge amount of money. But I think TD Ameritrade, they, they lower the amount that you have to have invested is $20,000, I think. Um, the other investment banks, it's like $200,000, then have to have in there to actually buy the IPO. Um, Owen, are you aware of this?
Wait, is it cash or, or crypto?
No, it's, it's stock. So the— it's a— so the IPO, basically Spaces is becoming a public, uh, company, and so now you can buy stock from it.
But I mean, you can use crypto to buy it.
Um, I don't—
I guess I think Robinhood has— I think Robinhood has crypto trading too, so I'm guessing you could buy and sell the crypto and then buy the stock with whatever you sell.
That's why when I heard Robinhood, I'm like, wait a minute.
Yeah, I don't use Robinhood. I don't really like some of their policies. I think they were exposed as kind of selling all the order flow to the big investment banks or somebody. I don't know, whoever the big, the big hedge funds and stuff. Apparently they all buy the overflow data. So it basically allows them to front run your trades. And so it— and I don't even know if most people know what that means, but it basically means they can exploit what you're doing because they're told what orders you're putting in. And then you end up paying more for a stock when you buy it, and you might get less when you sell it because they can kind of manipulate the market faster than you can. And so you don't get as good pricing.
Okay. Oh yeah, Fidelity is $2,000 limit and E-Trade, I guess no minimum, somebody's saying. I, I would have to to check that. But anyways, I think it's going live on the 11th, the night of the 11th to the 12th.
Interesting. Well, I mean, I'd love to get involved. Sean Corey is saying don't do it.
I mean, this is not investment advice, but no, you know, Scott Adams would have said this is one time in a billion years that you can buy such a company. So, but yeah, you can buy later.
Okay, so somebody's savvy, make us a little spreadsheet Or maybe just a few bullet points.
Go in.
What the heck is happening? If you want to buy it, here's how you do it.
Come on, come on, give us the, the download.
I know, Sean, what's your problem, man?
Um, I'm not, I'm not giving any financial advice on that. It's up to you to decide. And, uh, I don't really have a position, frankly. I think there is controversy around it because I think it's going to end up probably being in the S&P 500, which means it's almost like lots of places have to buy it. Once it gets there. But I think it is a delayed thing where it's not going to be there for at least a year. So it's not going to happen right away. But the, you know, eventually, given the size of it, it's going to obviously be one of the largest companies. So therefore it's going to end up in being in all the index funds, which basically means everybody who has those index funds has to go buy a bunch of that stock once it's added to the index.
Hmm. Don't know what he said, but I'm going to, um, I'm going to talk to ChatGPT about it.
I'm like, oh, he says this, Sean says this. Scott Adams and Jim Lurio said to stay clear. Well, you know, it is very risky, and it is up to you guys what to do, you know. All right, well, there's a lot of IPOs coming this year. There is OpenAI is doing an IPO, and so is— what is the name of that evil company, the AI company? Why can't I remember?
Anthropic. Claude.
Yeah, there you go.
Uh, Sorry, Claude, I don't know you. I'm just naming names.
Oh my gosh, all right, he knows Chester.
Chester is my, my boy. Oh, did I just call him a boy? That was kind of awkward.
Sorry, did you genderfy him?
I think I did. Oh my gosh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Um, okay, so Marcella or Owen, grab us another story. And I don't even have clips pulled, you guys, but let's go. Um, Owen, you have one ready?
So Bill O'Reilly is apparently demanding the criminal prosecution for E. Jean Carroll. Uh, apparently there was a revelation that she pocketed $7 million in dark money from Democrats for smearing President Trump and lying under oath in her deposition. Apparently she— her team only quote-unquote refreshed her memory and disclosed the funding right before the trial, after she had already testified under penalty of perjury that nothing like that had happened. Um, so apparently, you know, as you may have suspected, she was paid off pretty significantly with $7 million, um, to, uh, to do what she did. And I think, in my opinion, she allegedly— but in my opinion, she made up this whole story. And horrible. There's plenty of signs of that. And, um, looks like she got a nice payday as part of it. And of course, she's claiming she didn't know anything about it. And, you know, But, uh, yeah, it looks like she got a whole bunch of money.
Oh my God. So I'm wondering the same for Christine Blasey Ford or whatever her name is. Be— yeah, Reid Hoffman. I see the name there. Um, so yeah, then good. And let's see what happened.
Um, you know, I believe she's already under investigation by the DOJ for the perjury, uh, situation where she was asked then deposition in her civil trial, whether— this is before the trial— whether she received any, any money from an outside source. And she said no on in deposition, which— and basically later on, her own lawyers, uh, stipulated to the fact that they did receive this money from Rita Hoffman.
So, um, did you see that, that video of her like at her house No. Oh my gosh. What does she do? She lives in the woods.
Does she have skulls?
It's really wacky. She lives in the woods and has the names of her dead pets painted on her shed, which the names are nuts. Are you serious? And then she's like, "And then there was a little stream that went through here and there's no water now, so I painted all these tree trunks blue to represent that water flow through here once." And she's like, I'm just like, girl, No, girl, bye. So yeah, I don't, I don't know. She's a serial killer. She was Trump's type either, you guys. And that's right, you know. Oh wait, what?
That's right, what her cat was named. Remember the name of it?
Yeah, I think the one was—
oh yeah, one was named the women part. The woman part.
And one was like T-I-T-S. I can't say— are you serious? Yeah, I think I can say vagina also. But yeah, Owen's like, better you than me. Okay, we're going to get banned. That is so funny. Okay, so craziness. Let me go here. All right, so Owen, go ahead, hit us with another one.
All right. Well, apparently there's a report that 94% of all American jobs in the past year have gone to women. Um, so out of every 100 jobs, 94 of them were women. Uh, I don't know, but I think the, the explanation for it seems to be that a lot of the new jobs are in healthcare, and that's mostly women, like nursing and things like that. But, um, it seems like that's the, the main thing. There were 390,000 jobs, and I think 369,000 I'm sorry, so let me see. So there were 369,000 jobs that the Labor Department says were created since Trump started his term, and 348,000 went to women. Only 21,000 went to men. So 17 times as many went to women. Um, but they, again, the explanation is that most of it was healthcare. And, uh, so that seems to be like, oh, I mean reason. But at the same time, um, I think there's also an older story that says 9 out of 10 new jobs in the US since 2020, so over the last 6 years, have gone to foreigners. Um, and I think that's people who were not native-born Americans, so that would include illegal and legal immigrants, but people who were not born here.
Sorry, you guys, I took all the jobs.
I'm thinking, does OnlyFans count as a job?
Yeah, of course, I would think so.
Are there men's OnlyFans?
I have no idea. I've never been on OnlyFans.
Well, Owen, good answer. Duh.
I don't know.
I really, I've never, I've never been on it.
I believe you. I figured Sean could answer in the chat or somebody.
Wait, you're like pointing it out and Bookish just posted like this picture, I was like, whoa, bookish.
Chunk says yes.
Uh, I would imagine there's at least a gay part of it.
I don't know.
Oh yes, yes, there's OnlyFans gay men.
Is it a separate site or is it the same site?
Same site.
Same site.
Okay. Oh my gosh, I befriended an OnlyFans gay guy that—
oh, all right. I asked what he did for a living and he was like, well, Sean's like, thanks, Erica.
Um, let me show you.
I know, I just meant— I, I meant when I was thinking too, heterosexual, I wasn't thinking of the gay side of things, but I was like, oh, are like girls paying men to do things? Like, oh, I don't recommend. Okay. Um, Bookish is laughing. You guys are so cute. So, um, what was I gonna say? All right, well, we're gonna do one more story and then We have someone coming to say hello to us for Scott Adams' birthday to give us some updates. That'll be fun. All right, so Marcela, hit us with one.
Um, the GOP passed an immigration bill. Um, it was $70 billion they passed last week. Um, it is for the Border Patrol and everything else. Um, it was interesting that they can pass that. We have the news that the SAVE Act the Save America Act could not pass. So the GOP, the Senate passes the $70 billion immigration enforcement bill after a late night going back and forth, you know, but it seems interesting that the Senate can do this. And yet at the same time last week, the Save America Act did not pass and it was attempted twice. Mike Lee, Senator Mike Lee attempted to pass the Save America Act, um, again, and he got more votes, but you needed 60 votes to pass it. So it shows you that when money is involved— follow the money is what Scott Adams would tell us— they're very open to passing it, like the $70 billion one. But when it comes to if there's not money included in the bill or it's not going to where they want go, that they don't pass it. And, you know, they should be investigated for not wanting to pass something like, oh hey, there shouldn't be any cheating in your elections. Uh, yeah, yeah.
And if we could again just do line item voting, that would be the most amazing gift this country could have. Just vote on each issue one at a time. Don't pack in your pork, we don't want to hear it. What am I looking at seeing? Murkowski. Oh, so Here's the thing, I, I do have a question about this, not to do like a sharp left turn, but you know this guy Plattner in, uh, in Maine? Maine. Oh, Sandy in Maine. So you know he's got this Nazi tattoo, he's a jackass. Yeah, he's a complete jackass.
Um, so he's not only just a Nazi tattoo, it is the tattoo of the SS officers that did the concentration camps.
So it's not just Nazi. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like Nazi supreme. Um, yeah, no, he's a whack and he's accomplished nothing. And, um, you know, anyway, but I'm just so shocked. Why is Susan Collins still there running as a Republican? Like, nobody was going to challenge her? I don't, I don't get it because part of me is like, let Graham Plattner get in just to get her out would be a gift. Because if he gets in once, he's never going to get in again. So if that's what it's going to take to get Susan Collins out, I'm kind of almost okay with it. Um, because people will see him for what he is. What do you think? Because I don't understand how we still have Susan Collins. I mean, she's just always one of the four— her and Murkowski, McConnell, and Tillis, Tillis, that just screw up everything. Like everyone was so focused on trashing Thomas Massey. I'm like, get these four lunatics out and a lot of problems will be solved. So what, I mean, Owen, do you have any intel on that?
Well, I think part of it is that once you're entrenched and you've had a few terms, you probably have built up a whole fundraising engine and you just can outspend your opponents and you also accumulate various power through favors and other things. And so I think generally speaking, it is harder to displace an incumbent. But I think, um, it may also, in the case of Collins, for example, like, just be the local politics, that if they ran like a true MAGA Republican, he— they may just lose, right? It's— I think it's relatively close in her state. And so I think the, you know, the alternative might be that if you— if you did displace Susan Collins, the alternative would be you'd have a Democrat. And it would maybe, maybe not be much better, but it might be a little worse, you know.
Um, I feel like a ham sandwich could beat him if they just had a brain and weren't acting like a lunatic. Like, run someone middle of the road. I don't know, I just think she's so damaging in my opinion, although she gave one of the best speeches I ever saw on the floor, uh, when it came down to her for, um Brett Kavanaugh to get in. She made a hell— one hell of a speech, honestly. I'm gonna find it and post it somewhere. It was amazing. But, um, I don't know, like, you know, like, I feel like Scott Adams would say something like this: well, maybe we need to have Plattner to get rid of Collins. And I'd be over here screaming like, no, like, he's terrible. But now I'm starting to come around to those ideas. If that's what it takes— I mean, she's been there for 800 years, she'll be there for 800 more. Look at McConnell, right? I mean, those people are like I don't know, they're like, they probably like leave the— leave DC at the end of the day and they all meet in some like hospital room and they all get like drips full of like IVs of vitamins and baby's blood. It's just a joke, but like how these people just keep themselves going is amazing because everybody else wants to retire before they're 80, I'm pretty sure.
But I wanted to ask, is, is Nazi Supreme better than Nazi Belgrande?
With cheese. With cheese. Yeah, if you put cheese on it and there's a good sauce, I forget what it's called, but yeah.
Got it.
Yeah.
All right, well, I, I think there was also a story about Hakeem Jeffries, um, along the lines of this, that he was basically saying, you know, someone asked him about all this stuff with, with Plattner and others, and because it's not the only really horrible person running on the Democrat side, but, um, he was kind of saying, oh, I haven't paid much attention to these things, I don't know much about them, and he was just totally pretending like he had no idea what they were saying and Um, you know, he's like, well, they'll have to, they'll have to talk about that. That's up to them. And it just seems really ridiculous that, you know, their minority leader pretends not to be aware of their own candidates and their own background. Um, but they're, they all seem to be playing this game. They all seem to be just willing to elect whoever, no matter what their background is, no matter what crimes they've committed, no matter what horrible things they've done in the past.
Yeah.
Um, It doesn't seem like they have any standards for ethics.
Yeah, so Timu— I've seen Timu Obama, AOC, Schumer, like, twisting themselves into pretzels to be like, oh, oh, Bernie, Bernie Sanders, you know, it was a long time ago, you gotta, you know, let people's past be their past. I'm like, I hate you people so much. Like, none of these people are— they're like lizard people, I guess, or like creatures. Like, are you kidding me? You know, oh, I'd love to— I'd love to hear them say, let Trump's past be his past just one time. Would be amazing. Or anybody. Or Pete Hegseth when they dragged him around. So, you know, it's, it's, um— oh, and yes, who just said here comes Hunter, by the way? All right, so again, you guys, this whole show is just going to be left turns, okay? And I'll explain it to you another day. But have you guys seen Hunter Biden? He has like burst onto the scene on X. He's like answering everybody's comments. He's like, ever since he went on Candace Owens and he got a little bit of positive feedback because it was about sobriety, and you know, sobriety is great. I don't believe his story about sobriety at all, but if he's sober right now, I'm glad for him. Um, but I know, right? See, you actually like Hunter more now. So people are like, oh, like, this is kind of fun, and it is fun. And I had this fantasy about having him on here and just like really asking him some basic bitch questions that I would love the answers to, and not in a mean way, but I'm finding him interesting. And now somebody's like, Erica, because the other day I'm like, what about Rubio-Hunter 2028 uniting, you know, the parties or whatever? Of course I'm kidding, silly geese. I would never think that that's normal, but it's just fun to have Hunter coming out here like chitty-chatting with MAGA, and it's going pretty well. Um, I scared you when I said I had a fantasy with Hunter. I know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm gonna shower right after this.
Going back to the OnlyFans male version, I was like, Hunter could do a lot of money.
But apparently some people are calling Hunter the MAGA Whisperer, that they're thinking he's the type of person that can take the people that are kind of disgruntled with Trump for whatever reason and convince them, I suppose, to vote Democrat. I don't know.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um, I don't know. I don't know.
A data Republican came out against Hunter on X. She's, she's a known, um, person there, and I don't know if you guys are familiar with her, uh, but she was like, do not fall for it. It's all, uh, you know, it's all an op to like him, to start liking him. And, and she brings up all these things that he's done and what, uh, NGO he was part of and what's behind that NGO and behind that one. So watch out, Erica, do not fall in love.
It seems like the most bizarre choice. I don't know who's behind this. It obviously is some kind of op. I don't think it's just organic. I can't— I also don't believe that Hunter would be able to do this like on his own. Um, so I don't know.
Look who's here! Hello, hello, Joel!
I'm sort of half dressed. I had to put some pants on to be on the show.
I know you can only see him— not for us. None of us have pants on, by the way. This is a pants— yeah, this is pantsless over here. But I, I just said, just to— I don't know the right words to use when I talk about Hunter, but just to top off Hunter. Oh, perfect.
He doesn't have—
perfect leeway talking about no pants. I, I think it is fun hearing from him. And, you know, Scott Adams would always say too, like, he's kind of fun, he's kind of interesting, it would be kind of amusing to probably hang out with him. Um, so I'm kind of enjoying it for now, and we're getting like a peek behind the Hunter Biden curtain. Now remind— I'm reminding you, this is just me talking. That's, that's my new sign I want to get. This is just me talking. Basically everything a Biden say, they say is a lie. Okay, so just remember that. So if it's coming out of a Biden's mouth, it's a lie. I, but I'm still having fun watching him on X. So, uh, Joel, you are the best. Joel was like, hey, let's talk about Scott's birthday, let's talk about Scott. And, um, Joel just did a little tour of Scott Adams' childhood home and where he grew up in beautiful Windham. And I think you had great weather while you were there, Joel. Is that true?
It was fantastically beautiful. Yeah, very beautiful. You know, with Hunter Biden, I'll just say Scott said he sounds like a lot of fun, but I think Hunter Biden is probably the guy who's fun before drinks, and once he's had like a couple, he's insufferable and you want him out of there as soon as possible.
Yeah.
You know, I think the party filter, if we can borrow a paradigm from Scott Adams, you know, the party filter explains a lot about these people. T is the girl you want to meet until you talk to her and then you wish you never had at the party. Like, you know, kind of, oh, she looks interesting, and you walk over and say hi, and then like you excuse yourself as soon as you possibly can, get out of the conversation. Um, you know, and then Hunter's the guy, he's just like a sloppy drunk. I mean, Yes, he sounds like a lot of fun, but he went off recently. He was on a podcast with Candace Owens where he was like, I blame Israel for my dad losing power. Like, no, you dumbass. Your dad was like half there. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's sort of, it's the cheapest and dumbest thing to blame Israel, i.e., the Jews. Now he's married to a Jewish woman and he came out in support of Israel after October 7th. At a rally in Malibu, just up the street from Palisades where my home is. But he is just going in for this conspiracy theory stuff because it excuses his own behavior and his dad's behavior. And it's just the cheapest scapegoat.
And it's—
what is the theory? I don't even get how Israel could have been behind that.
You see, Israel had the temerity to defend itself against Hamas, and that made Democrats angry. And so Biden looked weak or I don't know. They're blaming Israel for this, for the loss in '24.
So it was just because of the Gaza War, you're saying?
Yeah, there's a reason that Gaza was bad for Biden, which is that he looked weak. He tried to have six of one, half a dozen of the other. You know, you either have to go in tough or don't go in at all. And, you know, Trump's kind of in that dilemma right now, which is sort of being resolved for him by Israel. I mean, yesterday, Trump, after Israel was hit by missiles, Trump says, don't go, don't respond, don't respond. And of course Israel responded. Maybe Trump knew they would, but it does— it's not a— it's not an attractive posture to Americans to say we oppose terrorism as long as you don't do anything about it. And that is what sunk Biden, not Israel as such, but it was his own sort of half-assed response where he was like, well, don't, he says to Iran, don't attack Israel. Okay, they already did. Um, okay, Israel, don't retaliate. Okay, um, we're not going to sell you these bombs to retaliate. It was just all over the place. And so like, either decide you're going to be—
so the big picture, you think everybody was like, oh, it's all because of Israel? I don't think so. I think a lot of that—
a lot of Democrats are blaming— I'm just saying like, it's the dumbest scapegoat, and that's where he's gone. Like, he's like, oh, you know, that's That's what, you know, and it's so he's had one too many, you know what I mean? Like, he's just kind of— and now he thinks he's rehabilitating his image. I don't know, has he paid his lawyers yet? I have no idea. But now he's— anyway, um, let's not dwell on him. Um, Scott, it's Scott's birthday, you know, so let's talk about fun things.
Wait, can we just— again, I want to see the chat. It's Scott's 69th birthday. Don't, don't be shy, okay? You make all the jokes because Scott would appreciate them.
You know, they're being shy. They're like shy right now.
Oh, we'll see.
I think Scott would have enjoyed his 69th birthday.
Oh yeah, I'm sure he would have.
We were all waiting for it.
How do you think you would have celebrated it?
Ah, I think we all know. Um, uh, you know, Scott, Scott was an incredibly special person and I think enjoyed celebrating things tremendously. You know, it was, it was a real privilege to be in his hometown in Windham, um, and to look around. And I learned a lot that I didn't know before. And it's fascinating to be there. It's a beautiful part of the country. It's, um, not too far out from Albany, but it's also a small town. And, and what's amazing is that this guy who grew up in small town America went on to become the most incisive critic of corporate industrial employee-employer relations. I mean, the whole Dilbert thing is incredible when you think about where Scott came from. I also went to his college, Hartwick College, and it's a small liberal arts college, has about 1,100 students. It's in a beautiful setting in the mountains there in the Catskill Mountains., and it's got a magnificent view from campus, but it's very small. Mm-hmm. And it's the kind of campus where you can see a student like Scott would've had a lot of nurturing from professors, some personal relationships with professors. Interestingly, he didn't really mention more than one or two of his professors as being particularly influential, and it wasn't really what happened in the classroom that he talked about later in life. It was more what he learned outside of the classroom and the experiences he had outside. But I think it was a safe place for him to go that wasn't too far away from home where he could focus on his ambitions. And at the time, he thought he wanted to be a lawyer, then he wanted to be an economist and a CEO. So it allowed him to play with these different ideas in a safe way where he wasn't going to get swamped by kids from the private school circuit in New York City or the Ivy League kids who are incredibly competitive. I think he just had a good solid foundation there, and he is to this date, I think, their, their most distinguished alumnus, although they don't really acknowledge him that much. I mean, I, I, I, I did talk to a couple school officials who were very nice, and they knew he had gone there, and I think there's a little bit of ambivalence, partly because of his politics and also I could be wrong. I don't think he gave a lot of money to his alma mater.
Well, I remember him telling a story about that. He, he said they, they invited him for some kind of like award as one of the most distinguished alumni, and he went to this award, and then at the end of the speech, they basically hit him up for a huge donation. And he's like, ah, okay, I see what you're doing. This is— this wasn't about giving me award, this was about the fact that I have money and you want me to donate.
And I think, yeah.
Turned off by that.
That's how awards work. I mean, whenever you go to an awards dinner, usually the person getting the award is given a lot of money, and it's just how it works. I mean, and, and I, I think he didn't know that, but I think that was in 1993 he was the distinguished alumnus, so that was already a long time ago. And yeah, it probably left a bad taste with him, but, um, you know, it's, uh, it's interesting to be there and just, and just get a sense of where he was, what he was doing. And, you know, he went home at every opportunity to work. He would, he would work at the ski resort, which is across the valley from the town, and he would work on his uncle's farm. I saw where his uncle's farm used to be.
Oh, is it still there?
Um, it's mostly housing. It's mostly been converted into housing, but there are some fields and there certainly are a lot of farms there. Mostly dairy farms, some hay and things like that. Not too many other crops, but hay for horses. And I saw people riding horses, you know, just riding back for fun.
Um, is his childhood home still there?
His childhood home is still there. The treehouse that his parents built for his sister is still there. Oh, and, uh, the, the little neighborhood he lived in is still there.
Oh.
Yeah, you get to go inside his house.
I did not. No, I did not. I didn't, I didn't go inside his house. We did not disturb the occupants. I just followed his, his sister's lead on that, you know.
Okay.
But what's interesting about the house is that his parents built it themselves. They built it themselves, and it has a concrete block style of, of architecture in the sense that, you know, it was the kind of thing you could do almost DIY. They, I think they left the electrical systems and the plumbing to people who knew what they were doing, but they built the walls, they made the plans, they did it all themselves. And one of the things I'll explore in the book a little bit is Scott Adams' idea of a talent stack almost seems natural when you're in Windham, because everybody has to learn to do everything in a town like that. You know, it's not easy to call people, especially in the days before, yeah, and long-distance phone calls being cheap and that kind of thing. I mean, if you needed to know something or do something, you had to figure it out yourself. And so, the only people who did really well were people who could do everything. And so, he learned from an early stage that having multiple talents is the way to go.
Oh, yeah, collecting eggs and working in the ski resort. I mean, that's a stack right there. And I love the way Scott said eggs. It was like eggs.
Eggs.
Yeah.
And I think that talent stack concept is also just like still very relevant because we have kind of transitioned into this specialist mentality where it's like you're just supposed to be an expert at one thing and you're not really expected to do anything anything else. And I think people have lost a lot of those basic life skills that everybody knew beforehand because their parents would show them, or they'd have to do it as a teenager growing up, or whatever. And, um, you know, I really felt like I didn't learn a whole lot about that sort of thing from my father. And, um, you know, the best way to learn it now is just— there's a YouTube video for everything. So when you need to fix your car, you need to repair something, you can either plug it in AI, or you can go on YouTube and figure it out a lot of the time. But still, it's very you know, intimidating for a lot of people. And you might not even imagine you could do that in many cases, and sometimes it won't work. But, um, I do think the talent stack idea is just very, um, you know, mind-bending, or just it changes your paradigm when you think, okay, it's not about being an expert at one thing, it's about being pretty good at a lot of things and having that mix of skills that no one else has. And I think it is really effective, and I think it's true, you know, I've probably have a pretty good talent stack, at least within the realms that I work in. And I think a lot of it is not just being an expert in one thing. It's the combination of things that helps.
Sure. Instead of staying in a lane. Right. And Scott hated that too. If somebody would say, stay in your lane, he's like, what do you mean, stay in your lane? Wait, I just have to acknowledge in the chat because it's just, you know, for those of us that used to tease Scott Adams, yes, he would say eggs. He would say "maisure" and "both" instead of "both" sometimes. But then we would tease him and then he would try to correct it. And once in a blue, the "maisure" would come out again. But then he'd say, okay, measure, measure. And he learned to say measure, not maisure. But we loved all those little Scottisms. I'm reading everybody in the chat.
Is that the New York in him? Is that the upstate New York?
That Windham area. It's beautiful up there. It's like its own little— it's so, it's so nice.
I had a girlfriend from rural Illinois when I was in college and she used to say milk instead of milk.
Yeah, I could do a whole show on this. How do you say dresser? Drawer, because some people say draw or drawer. It's like, it's so funny. We're in the same country. Everyone says things so differently. Oh my God, it's lesser income.
This is, this is an odd morning because I have like 3 interviews at once today because of all the LA stuff going on. Yes. But I would just, uh, leave you with this. I've been putting up a couple of pictures from Scott's archive on social media. So if you follow me on X, it's @JoelPollack, J-O-E-L-P-O-L-L-A-K-K and O-C. And on Instagram, it's exactly the opposite. It's PollackJoel. But there'll be more material, and the project is very, very challenging, but it's also a lot of fun. And I think it's going to be great fun for people who loved Scott and people who've never been exposed to him. Oh yeah. I think that, you know, I think it's going to be a lot of fun.
And we're still on track with everything, Joel?
We're still on track. I'm 8 chapters through the second draft. I've got 3 chapters to go, so we should finish the second draft by the Fourth of July. And then the really hard work happens because we've gotta get the third draft done in about 6 weeks to make sure that it's out by the fall. And that's gonna be the hard stuff. So I'm kind of compressing parts of the process to do certain things simultaneously, like interviewing simultaneously with with drafts, and it's, it's a challenge. But, you know, I think it's— I think it's going to be amazing. Um, I, I think it's going to be a bestseller because I think the fans are going to want to read it. And, and, you know, it's not going to be an encyclopedic 1,000-page compendium of Scott Adams material because he put so much out there that I think people will enjoy discovering that for themselves. But what I'm going to do in the book is try to connect things and show especially how the different phases of his life were actually a continuity. There, there wasn't some kind of a break. A lot of the people who knew him from Dilbert were surprised by his later political writing. A lot of people who came to him through politics didn't know much about his earlier Dilbert writing. But actually there's some really interesting connections across those periods and across his entire life. And I think that's what people will, will enjoy seeing and, and learning from. And I'm gonna try to draw out the principle I think that he would've wanted to be remembered by.
Oh, perfect. And I'm sure you guys, I mean, how, so how long ago did he ask you to do this?
We started talking about it probably early December. Last year, so it was pretty close to the end, which was unusual. The previous biography I did was also someone who had terminal cancer, but we had several months. We agreed to do that biography 7 months before she died, so we got through a draft together. I was able to show her a draft, and she was able to read it and comment on it and send me changes and updates. So that was something I was not able to do with Scott. And then of course with Shelley passing away, I lost another resource there, someone I could talk to. Yeah. But I think the, the essence is there and he and I did sit together a lot and talk about his life and we got the basics done, which I think is, is good. So I think, I think it'll work. It would've been nice to have had a little bit longer, but that's what we've got.
Um, of course. Uh, yeah, I was thinking all the same things that you just said. And then, um, oh gosh, I, I can't— I don't know why I forget his name. He was so amazing at Scott's memorial, who's writing the foreword.
Um, Ian Pastis.
Yeah, Pastis.
Yeah.
Oh God, how's— how have you been in touch with him?
I spoke to him briefly a couple weeks ago. We're going to talk more, but You know, he told a story about how Scott helped him in his cartooning career. And Scott was helped by another cartoonist, by Jack Cassidy. And I think, I think Scott felt a duty to pay it forward in that sense, to help someone who came to him for advice. And I think we can all do that a little bit more.
It was such a beautiful story too, just how that happened. And he was also an attorney in California, like Yeah, litigation attorney. Litigation. Yeah. And I mean, his, his talk, I'd like to clip that for you guys too and just go over that again. I mean, you guys were so beautiful and eloquent, everybody that spoke there, and it just showed the love, uh, for Scott and, you know, how useful he was for everybody and caring and wanted everybody to rise up, um, never selfish. So, uh, good.
I know you have to go, Joel, but you mentioned something on X about Joshua Lysak. Being involved?
Yeah, Joshua was Scott's publisher, especially after he got canceled, and he republished a lot of Scott's books. So Joshua is going to be publishing the biography. So he is my editor and publisher for this project.
That's Scott. I love it. Like, Scott's like, let me get my people in there. It's so sweet. Oh, Joel, I'm so glad you could pop on because there's, you know, you're, you're the man. I mean, you are the guy that Scott shows that— like I say it every time— there could be no other person that could do this with as much respect and care like you are. And we're gonna be so freaking excited to get this book in our hands.
Thanks. You know, I just— I would just say one more thing about Scott's birthday. Yeah, I saw Scott on his last birthday, and it was a Sunday It was the day after his daughter Savannah had had a wedding reception at his house. And he told me that he didn't expect to live more than a few weeks. At that point, he was in an incredible amount of pain. And then he started taking these testosterone blockers, and he was building toward a different treatment regimen. And he had this almost miraculous recovery for several months. So instead of losing Scott over the summer last year, we all enjoyed him for another 7 months. And that in itself is incredible because he was able to impart a lot of wisdom, to share a lot of joy with people, and to feel surrounded by love that people gave him. So even though we all miss him terribly, and the 69 jokes would have been legend. You know, we had a lot more life from Scott than I think we expected this time last year. So it's something to cherish.
100%, Joel, you're exactly right. I was dreading after his birthday to come for what his plans were. And thank God that that changed. And yes, we did have more time for closure and for wisdom and and also that he got to experience the love everybody had for him, which was the day he announced, you know, the next day he came back on and said, everybody should experience this. Like, it was like being at my own wake. Like, I had no idea all these— and I'm like, oh my God, I was laughing when he's like, you guys should experience this. I was like, oh, but you know, and it was kind of shocking that he didn't know how far-reaching and hard we love him. Like, you know, everybody loves him. And so maybe that's a sign for for us to share how much we love the people that are with us today, now, while they're here, and not have to wait for something terrible. And it is true, like, why do we always wait for a wake to say all these nice things? I always said somebody should create a new thing called a living wake and have your wake right now, wherever you are in life. Put the poster boards up of the pictures, and you just like sit on a little throne in the front, and everybody just talks about you because It's too late sometimes. Yeah, no, no roasting, just love. But Scott was so overwhelmed, and I was so afraid of how he was gonna feel reading and receiving all that, and he freaking loved it. And it made me so happy that he got to hear all of it.
He was so surprised though that he was like, Marcella, they loved me. I was like, it's like, this was the best day ever.
I'm like, oh good, okay, good.
All right, everybody, enjoy the day, and I'll talk to you again soon.
You too, Joel. We love you. Thank you. Thanks, Joel. Bye, Joel. Ah, there he goes, you guys. Joel Pollack, we love you. Um, so anyway, we're gonna get back to some news, and I'm just gonna remind those that are here again that tomorrow Akira the Don is on, and, um, he's gonna help celebrate Scott Adams' birthday with us. We're sort of doing like Scott celebrations throughout the week. So if that's all right with you guys, I think it is, we'll, we'll head in that direction. Okay, so we have 10 minutes left. Marcella, give us, give us something juicy.
Well, one thing is, um, that tonight is the New York Knicks playing, um, and Trump is going to the game, um, and the left While I was watching Morning Joe this morning— God help us— they came on and said, oh, how dare Trump comes to a game and he's taking the Knicks and the love to the game away from us New Yorkers. I was just like, this is the epitome of them crying. So anyways, if you're, if you're gonna go to the Knicks game tonight, you have to be there 2 hours before, and, uh, there's going to be a lot of security. I always get, you know, like I'm like, like his family or something. I always get, uh, you know, you know, like nervous, apprehensive. Like when he had this dinner for the press or whatever it's called, I forget what it's called right now, but—
Correspondents Center.
Yeah, which is rescheduled, by the way.
For a good reason. And so like, now it's like, what's gonna happen? And then you know what came to mind? Erica. And, and the, um, the people going underneath the, uh, in Brooklyn, the, the sewer people. Yeah. I was like, oh my gosh, and tonight is gonna be the New York Knicks.
And, and, but Mom Donnie's gonna be probably nowhere near it.
It, but, um, I was like, no, it's not anywhere near it.
But Mondani will also be there, so maybe he will be safe if he sits next to him. He could wear Mondani as a bulletproof vest. I'm kidding, you know what I mean? No one's gonna hurt— they're not gonna hurt him, they love him.
Um, actually, they believe in—
oh God. All right, so we're— I told you, left turns, you guys, left turns all day today on this show. All right, I'm going to turn left over to Owen. Owen, make us sane again, could you?
Uh, I don't know about that, but, um, apparently there's a 205-page report that came out showing that the Waltz administration just totally ignored all the fraud as billions of dollars vanished. This was the House Oversight Committee, and it looks like they're just basically saying, you know, they knew about it or they should have known about it. There were plenty of warnings that were sent all the way to the senior levels and they just didn't do anything about it. Um, so I'm not sure if this will result in any kind of prosecutions. I certainly hope so. But, um, it looks like they're basically showing the case and all, you know, again, it's like 200 pages long, so there's a whole lot of stuff in there. I'm sure no one's going to read it. But, um, you know, they're basically saying that Walt knew about this and he just decided to let it go.
Oh, oh, and I like when you got your mouth close to the microphone. It was like a whole new level.
I'm like, okay, I just turned my head. I was reading on one computer and then I switched around.
I'm so punchy today, you guys. Can you tell?
You never said that to me, Marcella.
Your microphone's hot. I've told you that. I have, I have. It's true.
Um, all right, well, Tim Walz, is that why he didn't run for, for governor again?
I think so. I think that— because that was right when that was all breaking and becoming huge news. So I think that was what killed his reelection bid. So at a minimum, there's a consequence there. But I personally think there may be some criminal involvement. I mean, I don't know how it works exactly. Maybe you would tell me. But, um, you know, it does seem to me like if you know fraud's going on and you're enabling it or abetting it or whatever that would be legally that there should be some consequence for that.
I do not want to see Owen in a hijab. No, but look what I got you guys.
Very nice.
My quality earrings.
I want to see it on you.
I know, I'm gonna wear it. I'm definitely gonna wear it.
I'm very into it.
It's getting— so, okay, all right, 5 minutes. Who's got a little story for us? I like this. This is fun today. I'm excited. We gotta, we gotta get Mike Lindell on here. Okay, go ahead, Marcela, give us a, give us something juicy.
I don't know. Um, well, as you know, the Iran-Iraq— Iran-Iraq, what am I saying? Iran-Israel still going back and forth, back and forth. Just this morning, Israel was hitting targets in, in Lebanon, um, and the whole time They've been going back and forth. So what happened yesterday is— and I know this is not a fun story, but anyways, this is like what I live my entire like weekend was like monitoring the situation. So basically Israel started, um, because Hezbollah was throwing rockets at them. Then they went back and forth, um, with Lebanon, but then Iran stood up and said Oh, oh no you don't. We're gonna throw missiles at you, Israel, for throwing things at Hezbollah. So it's like become like, uh, you know, like dad's away, everybody goes crazy and starts trying to kill each other. So then Iran threw missiles at Israel. None of them, um, fortunately none of them hit any targets because they were able to get the Iranian missiles beforehand. But, and then Israel went back and hit missiles at Iran. And basically now it's like the most fiery ceasefire ever. It's probably over. Um, so I think Trump came out either last night or this morning saying that everybody needs to stop shooting. That was his post. And then there was another post that like, we're gonna have peace, believe it, because these two have to stop. So Iran said that they were stopping. Um, however, after that, Israel has been, um, fighting with Lebanon again.
Please, Israel, please just stop long enough for us to stop this. Just, just do what you want, but just wait till we're done and we're out of this and it's wrapped up, and then you're on your own. Just stop. Oh, it's so like, do I need to intervene? I'm gonna try. Um, smar— no, this is not a Blue Monday, you guys, okay? Scott wants us to be happy and to be useful. There's no reason to be sad. He's in a better place and his legacy continues. We love him so much. We miss him for sure. But like, you gotta just, you know, shake it off and just do all the things he'd want you to do. Work on your talent stack, touch grass, be useful, help a friend. If someone's lonely, give them a call. Um, you know, learn a new a new skill. Read your reframe books, practice a reframe, write a reframe, reach out to people on here, and, you know, just really do things that will make him proud, okay? Because he would never want to see us being sad and down. He'd want us— you know, he, he moved on with things. I mean, as we saw, we witnessed for a decade plus, so we can do it too, okay? So we're not moving on from losing Scott, but we're, we're going to celebrate him every single day by living our lives and using and incorporating all the things we can that he ever taught us. And, and you guys, I'm going to work on my T's. I see you guys making fun of me for my T's that came out of nowhere. Important. I can say important. I know you guys are like, where's your T's? So I'm going to work on that to be useful for you people, um, because I love you.
So I don't think you need to change the way you're talking, Erica.
Thank you. Owen, you're so sweet. Everyone's like, Erica, all right, so it's like my little major and eggs is important.
I think it's fine to have these differences. It's not, it's not a problem.
Owen, carry on.
Well, I just think, I, you know, I, I'm from the Midwest. I'm sure I have some words that I don't pronounce the way other people think they should, and I understand that people on the East Coast or the West Coast have those differences. People in the South have those differences. But I kind of like that. I like the fact that You have your sort of, you know, regional dialect and we can all understand each other. So there's no reason why you need to say everyone's got to pronounce every word the same way.
Thank you so much, Owen. Thank you. All right, guys. So I got a pass from Owen himself. So T's be damned. Okay, Marcella, are you going to make a useful day today?
I will. I will. And I won't be sad.
That's right. You wore green to honor Scott Adams.
His favorite color.
His favorite color. And Owen, I know you're going to be useful today.
Of course. I know you're wearing green.
Owen's going to go out there. What are you doing today, Owen?
Oh, working. But I'll just be going right back to work.
That's it. That's it. All right, you guys. So be here tomorrow for Akira. We'll replay the one song you heard. We'll groove out. Debute the other one. It's so good. I'll tell you the title. Here's a teaser. It's called Cha-Ching, and it's so freaking catchy. I love it. Um, so don't be late tomorrow, you guys. And, um, Owen and Marcella, thank you. This was kind of a fun, interesting show for the three of us over here. Um, and I'm gonna throw my printer out the window in a second. Um, I love you guys. Uh, Marcella and Owen and I thank you guys so much. Um, we want to thank Scott Adams and Shelley because they collabed to make this show possible and to continue. So we're going to be extra, extra useful today in honor of Scott Adams and his 69th birthday, people. And we're going to celebrate his birthday a little bit all week, okay? Let's make it his birthday week. So, um, as always, a closing sip to Scott Adams. Okay guys, say your goodbyes. Love you.
Happy 69 to everyone.
Happy birthday.
And if you ever watched Howard Stern and you know, 69, that's a little inside Howard Stern joke.
Oh my God, I'm dying.
RIP Howard Stern.
I never watched him really since I was a child. Is Howard Stern dead? I didn't know he was dead. If he is—
because I said RIP. Yeah, no, but his show sucks now. Oh my gosh. Bye guys.
I don't know what happened to that guy actually.
Oh, he's mental. I could just— I'll stay on and riff on Howard right now, I'll tell you. Bye guys.
Bye everyone.
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