The Scott Adams School - 06/12/26 BJ Dichter joins Erica & Owen.

Good morning, everyone.

Good morning.

Good morning. Buenos días a todos.

Oh, shoot. I didn't know we were doing bilingual today.

Well, listen, I didn't have a choice. When I moved to Colombia, they said, hey, gringo, you can either learn Spanish or get kidnapped. And I'm like, well, that's one hell of an incentive. So I learned Spanish.

You know, if my teachers told me that, maybe it wouldn't have taken me like 4 years to do Spanish too. Yeah. Good morning, Dr. Gregory Hines. Good morning, you cutie pies. Okay, so we have YouTube. YouTube, you guys, you are a special sect of beloves. I want you to know I see you saying we're the unbeloves, but I happen to love you, so too bad. Local Spotify, X, and Rumble. I don't see Rumble kicking in yet, but I'm sure it will. Welcome. It's Friday. BJ is with us. Owen is with us. Marcella is lawyering it up somewhere. Given a can of whoop-ass, I'm sure, to somebody. But we're here. So let's go. I can't believe it's the end of another week. June 12th. Whoo. All right. I need a sip. Do you guys need a sip?

Let's do it.

Yeah.

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Oh my God, he sounds like he's about to land a plane. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.

You know what's so good about that? I think it's airline pilot.

Yeah.

You know what's so good about that? If you notice, he was always trying something new. He could never get the technology perfectly sorted, at least towards the end, but at least he was trying different things and he would talk about it.

I love that. We're well aware of what made it and what didn't make it.

Exactly.

With lots of colorful language and a garbage can full of technology. Yes.

The printer.

Erica and I and Marcela, I think, now also have a better appreciation for what he was going through.

Yes. I often want to throw my printer out the window, but it won't break it because it's like, right, there's like 2 feet from the window to the ground. So it's not going to be that satisfying. But one day. One day. Oh, my gosh. Okay, guys, welcome in. So, you know, Friday, we try to do Friday Funday, but we have a little bit of both. Okay, so it's a little mix. Um, the first thing though, I have to start with a little animal clip, you guys. It was just too cute to pass up. And you know what, some of you actually enjoyed this and I appreciate you. So here's a guy, okay, he goes to pick up his adorable— I, it's a corgi, you guys will correct me if I'm wrong— from daycare who's having the time of his life. And then he sees his daddy.

Look.

That's his dog on his back.

Oh shit. Hi.

Hi. Aww, I love that. It's so true. We don't deserve dogs. That is so cute. He was like, Dad, can I stay 5 more minutes? Mm-hmm. Oh, and how are you doing? Do you still have the dogs at your house?

My son's dogs are with us at the moment. Yeah. So I have 2 dogs in the house. But we had lots of fun over the years with the dog park with my last dog. And we haven't done that with the new dogs because they're kind of temporary residents. But plus, well, one of them is still kind of a puppy. And I don't know that it would attack another dog, but it gets really Like it barks, barks aggressively whenever it sees a dog when I walk it. So, um, we kind of just keep it clear of other dogs. They get along with each other fine. Uh, medium size. I mean, I don't know what you consider big. They're probably 60 pounds or so.

That's big.

Oh, and I just want to correct you. I think they're called undocumented residents. I think that's how you're supposed to refer to them now.

Yeah. Undocumented pets, maybe.

They're unhoused. Their temporary, temporary housing.

Migrant dogs. Andy Wong puts migrant dogs.

So, Owen, I hope you enjoy your new dogs for the rest of your life. The rest of their life. It's going to be fun because that's what you think. Okay, so the other quick thing I wanted to show you, if my mom is listening, she taught me this back, you know, back in the days when I used to watch the Flintstones. And, you know, like, if they're all cartoons, if they're like running and there's a sky past them, like you'll notice the clouds are like the same pattern as they go. And she pointed that out to me. She like broke the fourth wall at an early age. And then I was like, oh, everything is fake and gay. And now I know. So, um, but I love this clip I saw. So, you know, animations, it's hard, it's expensive, it's time-consuming. So look at this clip about the Disney movies and how they repurposed— why do I look so dark? Oh God, I feel Scott Adams. Um, and look at how they repurpose their animation. I love this. And if anybody— let me lower this. If anyone— do you guys know Carvel? It's an ice cream place, I think. Yes, of course. Oh, you do? You know, I didn't know it wasn't all over the country. Um, so Carvel, they have a cake, Fudgy the Whale. And Fudgy the Whale— are you guys get the point? Isn't that crazy? So Fudgy the Whale is also Cookie Puss and Santa Claus. You just turn him the other way and like the whale tail is Santa's hat. It's like they make like a bunch of different things out of him. So I'm just like, you know what, let's, let's repurpose.

Um, I mean, back then you have to remember, they— those are all hand-drawn. Every frame was hand-drawn. Yeah, they didn't have computers back then doing anything. So everything they were doing, every movement is just another drawing slightly different than the one before. So they probably were tracing over the other one just to say, okay, that's an easy way to make the motion happen.

Oh my gosh, I can only see the locals' comments right now. I'm coming over to you soon, YouTube. But I love— all right, first of all, Stephen Lang, Carvel is not East Coast trash, it's delicious. Um, and Fudgy the Whale, yes, you just invert it. And then we've got, um, Midasai said, I feel violated. And Chunk says, we all need to dance like this. I love that. Yes, we do.

What is Carvel?

It's trash, he said.

But it's nice.

Oh, it's an— it's an ice cream place.

It's so—

it's like a franchise ice cream place. It's like been around since before I was born, which obviously is a long time. And they just change their ice cream cake molds in different directions and make different things out of them. So now feel violated for a second time.

And apparently there's an East Coast-West Coast divide around ice cream. That's what I just learned.

Oh, of course. Of course there is. Yes. Yes, Dee, the crunchies. Carvel has the best crunchies on an ice cream cake. Oh my gosh. I don't even know how that all happened just now. So do you guys mind? I would love to play a quick clip and I may have played this before, but I feel like from the comments I've been getting in the DMs and things I'm seeing on X, that maybe we could use another quick lesson from Scott Adams today. This is just a fast micro lesson. I think it's going to be good timing for us, as always with Scott Adams. So this is just a couple of minutes, and let's just chitty-chat about it on the other side. Okay, guys, let's grab it.

Here's a micro lesson on timing for persuasion. Now, if you want to persuade somebody of something that was sort of unfamiliar and they had no experience with it, there was nothing in the real world that matched it. It's hard. People need to be primed for your persuasion. And the best way to do that is wait for the environment coincidentally to be in the right situation where your message can slip in. I'll give you an example. Suppose you wanted to make the case that in some domain, 97% of the experts turned out to be wrong. So maybe in this next situation, completely unrelated, It's also possible that the experts could be wrong. It would be useful to point to history and say, look, they used to be wrong back then, maybe they're wrong now, but not nearly as good as pointing to a current news story that's in everybody's head. If you can find that situation and say, look, look, the experts are all wrong right now, you're living through it, you're seeing it yourself, why couldn't they also have been wrong in this other example. Now, of course, the two things are not connected, so there's not a logical connection. It just allows the people to imagine it's possible. So you got to have a situation where people can easily imagine that the thing you're persuading could be possible. If they don't have something in their environment to make it imaginable, it just bounces right off. And that's your, that's your lesson on persuasion for today.

Thank you. No one yells mute to me.

Um, I thought it was a technical issue on my, my end. Sorry about that.

Thank you. So Owen, I'm coming to you first. I was saying that, um, lately when I'm discussing things with people, and I don't want to say like I'm debating people, I'm not running around debating people, but I forget sometimes how to persuade. I, I get like my emotions get fired up a little bit and I forget how to calm myself down and, and regroup. So hearing what Scott just said, what's your advice to me?

Well, I think certainly number one is take a moment, take a pause if you're in that emotional state, because you— I think if your emotions are kind of in control, it's harder for you to even intentionally do anything because you're not really thinking as much. Um, and it's okay to feel things, it's okay to have that, you know, happen. Emotions are natural. But I think if you're trying to persuade someone, you want to be more in deliberate control of what you're doing and thinking about, okay, how can I get through to this person. And I think part of the point of what I heard was that, you know, if you're sort of just slamming something up against somebody and it's not anything remotely like what they're ready to hear, then they're not going to hear it and they're not going to, you know, it's, it's like, like you said, it might just bounce off them, you know. And so I think when I am trying to persuade someone, I'm usually trying to put myself in their shoes. That's my focus. I'm trying to say, okay, how, how is this person thinking about this? How is this person going to respond to what I might say and what could I say to potentially change their point of view or get them to, you know, agree with what I'm about to say. And so you look for common ground, you look for things that you have in common, you look for maybe a perspective that you think would match their perspective based on what they've said in the past or how they've behaved in the past. And, you know, you think of it in terms of their goals, their ambitions, their situation.— and I use this at work all the time where, you know, I— and it's not necessarily even conscious a lot of the time at this point, just because I've done so much that it just sort of happens. But it's more like you just say, okay, you know, what is this person trying to achieve here, either in this particular interaction or just in general? And how can I make this fit into that and show them how it would help them or show them how it would benefit them? So you would highlight different things, you would Again, maybe start from that common ground as opposed to starting where you differ and saying, "Well, I think we all agree on this, this, and that," and get them to agree to that. And that's part of persuasion as well is if you can get someone saying yes, then they're in the mindset of saying yes. And there are other tricks and other things that I've heard from people like the guy that's been making the rounds recently. I forget his name, but he was saying something like— I think he was one of those CIA people, but he was saying that If you say, you know, well, I know, I know that you're an open-minded person, so, you know, and, and everyone would want to think of themselves as an open-minded person, right? But if you say that, then that puts them in that mindset of, now I got to act like an open-minded person.

Like, they're gonna be like, no, I'm not, right?

But if you, but if you say, you know, I know you're an open-minded person, so you'll listen to me when I say this, they're much more likely to listen to you, right, and really consider something than if you just launched right into your argument.

I will say though, it, it's definitely, it's like easy peasy for me if it's somebody I don't know because I'm, I don't have that emotion. If it's someone I know, I gotta take that like, whoo, you know. And I totally agree, I think it's a good idea to find some, some kind of common ground that you can both agree with as a starting point, you know. And I'm coming to you in a second, BJ. And sometimes it's like Listen, we know each other. We're both good people. I don't consider you radical. I'm sure you don't consider me radical. So, like, let's start with that and then let's just, like, you know, find some commonality. But, BJ, you know, how do you— how do you handle— how do you handle this? You do a lot of speaking with people. I'm sure you get a lot of pushback. How do you deal?

Yeah, I try to actually engage with people who disagree with me a lot. That's how you kind of hone up the skills. This is— Scott talked about this a lot. This is directly out of Ericksonian hypnosis. And the idea is if you have you have somebody who's primed, you have prestige, and you have rapport with them, then you can persuade them at least to hear you. And if you do it enough times, then you can change their mind. This is why Scott Adams used to say, if you hear something 5 times, then you will just adopt it as your, as your opinion. Um, and the reason, you know, you mentioned, uh, family, friends and family are the most difficult people. You know, your parents never listened to you. Your family never listens to you, that sort of thing. It's because those three elements is— gives the context where people are willing to listen. But what don't you have with your family? You don't have prestige. You're nobody special. You're just one of the family. So right away you're missing one of the three elements that are required to persuade somebody to change their minds. Once you understand how this all works, it really makes a lot of sense, and it's, it's amazing how much of hypnosis that Scott covered in his whiteboards and his streams. But he's laid everything out. But Ericksonian hypnosis, that's where this all comes from.

So what would you— what would you advise? Like, so if I said, oh my God, BJ, I'm trying to talk to these people and I get so flustered and so upset, like, and I know all the right things and I know all the facts, but then they just start throwing things at me and like my emotions go crazy. Like, what would you tell me to do?

Uh, well, the first thing I would ask is when. When are you trying to talk to them? And I don't mean when in time, when in terms of their emotional state. If somebody is in a manic state where they're very frustrated about something and you're trying to get them to completely invert their worldview, that's never going to happen. If you challenge them, you're going to spike their amygdala and they're going to attack you. That's where the 7 signs of cognitive dissonance comes from. So the first thing you have to do is you have to move them out of a state of anxiety into what works best for me, a state of gratitude, because you can't be, you can't be in both states at the same time. This is what I was explaining to Jordan Peterson during the trucker convoy. Like, everybody was asking me, you know, the political experts who are the worst persuaders. Scott Adams was completely right about that. I was— Jordan was the only one who understood what I was trying to do with my messaging. Is get all of us, everybody around the world, out of a state of anxiety because we had 2 years of lockdown and face diapers, so we're already hyper-anxious, and get us into a state of positivity and gratitude because if we could do that, then you won't have violence. It's the same thing when you're trying to persuade somebody to see your worldview. It's just not the right time, and if they are really hyper-anxious about something the usual, you know, subtle step of asking them questions, unless you're really trained in it, that may work against you. Just asking them questions will set them off. So it's just not the right time. You have to look for the right time and opportunity where those three elements are there.

So, you know, you guys, and you don't have to engage in these conversations at all, but if you think that, you know, maybe someone is, um, misrepresenting you and who you are and what you think, I, I think it's worth it to just straighten out where you're coming from because I I don't think anybody listening to this show right now is a bad person. And I'm sure there are a bazillion people that think that we are bad people because of one thing or another. So I, I do like to stick up for myself. I try to do it calmly and rationally. Um, I try to find something in common that we can agree on and like have a common goal. Like, you know, we all want a peaceful life, we all want, you know, happiness and to protect our families and blah blah blah. And then like, it's like, okay, like, okay, yeah, yeah, I want that too. I that too. And then maybe it's just like, maybe what we think that has to happen in between all that is different. But if we take away all the noise, we're still two people who want the same outcomes for our family and for ourselves. And the rest is like almost none of our business. So we get so involved with it sometimes that I have a friend— like, now our thing is when we're like, oh my God, this happened and that happened, and we're like, F it, what are we gonna do about it? You know, and it's like we have to vote and that's the only thing you can do. And once the election's over, you gotta kind of sit back and do your thing. But just that to say that persuade when you can, but don't make it your full-time job or you'll be full-time crazy unless you're getting full-time pay for it, that's different. But so just pick and choose your battles. And if you feel yourself getting really emotional, like BJ said, it's not the right time for the conversation. You can always revisit it, but I needed that today as a little reminder. And some of, like I said, some of the, yeah. And always tell the other person to calm down. Calm down. That's great advice.

There are a couple stories I remember from Scott that I thought might be relevant here. One is that he had a technique where when he was arguing with someone either online or otherwise, he would say something like, what do you think I believe that is different than what you believe? Like, you know, where do you think our beliefs differ? Because I think in many cases it's based on faulty assumptions. And if you can get someone to say, well, I think you believe this, you know, then you have something that is probably easy for you to argue because you're the ultimate authority on what you believe. And, you know, you can say, well, that's not right. That's not what I believe. And it puts you in a little bit more of a power position to say, you know, I think we actually agree on a lot of things that you think we disagree on. And if you can put them in those terms, it might actually get that some of that common ground established that you wouldn't any other way. And then the other story that I thought was kind of amazing is he said at various points in his life he's been at gunpoint or at knife point and mugged and things like that. And I remember one time he said, I just kept talking to the person like nothing was going on, like it was just the normal people talking to each other. Like I didn't even acknowledge that he was sticking a knife at me and threatening to stab me. And he just like kept talking about totally different unrelated things and then eventually just the guy walked away or something.

It's like, this isn't fun. Well, that's not the reaction I wanted.

I don't know that I would necessarily recommend that to people, and I've never been mugged myself, so I can't say what I would do. But I did find it interesting that sometimes if you just sort of remove yourself from the frame completely, you might be able to sort of navigate in a different direction. So I thought that was pretty interesting.

I love, I love this comment from V8 Jeep 360 Guy. You don't say this when somebody pulls a gun on you. You don't say, take a chill pill.

So good. Yep, I know. That's right. It's just like saying calm down. I love that. I hope, I hope some of what we talked about is helpful to everybody at some point in time. So that's great. All right. Thanks for amusing me with that. I wanted to, I wanted to revisit that. So, okay, you guys, it's SpaceX day. I wish I had some kind of like, you know, moon music playing and rocket launching sound. So today it's official IPO day. Oh well, I'll just play this clip and this will fill you in. So this is a big day for, for Elon and for SpaceX and for humanity. Your day for Wall Street as the company makes its stock market debut.

Fox Business reporter Jerry Willis joins us now with the details. Jerry, Is this like your Super Bowl?

Yes, it's exactly like my Super Bowl. Todd Carley, good morning to you. We have shares of SpaceX starting trading today on the Nasdaq for the first time and what is expected to be the biggest public offering of stock ever, $75 billion worth of shares. We're expecting a share price of $135. Take it or leave it. That's going to be the number. Ticker SPCX. But the big headline, if all goes according to plan, CEO Elon Musk could become the world's first trillionaire. In addition, and this is important, some 4,000 employees will become millionaires, at least on paper, due to their stock options. Today's IPO offering is the culmination of weeks of planning and sales pitches to professional investors. It's what they call the dog and pony show. However, SpaceX is allocating an unprecedented 30% of IPO shares for regular investors on platforms like Fidelity, Robinhood, E-Trade. Fidelity is even lowering the bar for regular investors to get into the deal, allowing people with just $2,000 in their accounts to snag shares. Usually that threshold is $100,000. Now, this doesn't mean shareholders will have a big voice in the company. Musk will retain the majority voting power in the company. And as you know, SpaceX has three main businesses: the reusable rocket business, Starlink satellites, and XAI. Should you buy? Well, consider this. About a quarter of IPO stocks lose at least half of their value in the three years after listing day.

Todd, we have a lot of sports to watch today. I feel like this is a sport to watch as well.

I agree. Then why are we trying to buy it if it's going to lose half of its value in three years? Because I don't think that'll happen. But that's not advice. I know literally nothing. Owen, I'm going to come to you first. You don't have to— nobody has to disclose what they did, what they're doing, what they're not doing. But what do— what are we thinking about this today?

Well, first, I— okay, never mind. I was going to say the— for me, at least, the video was still on the screen, but just went away.

Yeah.

I mean, I don't, you know, I don't normally get involved with IPO stuff or try and buy stock right away. And I certainly have seen the pattern that there is a fair number that at least lose some value after they launch. It's very typical that they might dip for at least a little bit. So if you were trying to get in, don't worry about too much because you probably will have an opportunity maybe at some point. I can't guarantee, of course, but it may end up being somewhat cheaper than $135 at some point. But I think, um, you know, it's an interesting thing. I think it's certainly a, a lot of us are Elon fans and think he's going to do great things, and So it may be just an exciting thing to say he's getting that infusion of cash that he needs to grow his business even faster. And I don't know if we'll reach Mars like he says he is, but I don't count Elon out for anything because he's done so many impossible things. This is just one more impossible thing. So I would certainly say it's possible that he's going to reach all his goals and get that trillion-dollar pay package and probably have earned every cent of it if we got to that. Wasn't it like a million people or something living on Mars was the metric or something like that?

But then he switched it to the moon because Mars was too difficult and it took too long to get there. So the plan is like Mission to the Moon now, to live on the moon, I, I suppose.

Okay. Are you gonna be living on the moon?

I mean, I'll go. Yeah, yeah, if I can bring George, um, my cat. Yeah, I'll go.

All right.

Well, you can toss your cat around in low gravity then, right?

You guys, I know I'm not forgetting Stella. I'm just saying Stella probably won't be with us by the time this happens, so I'd bring her if she will, if she is here. Um, so wait, where am I? See back there? There's my I love Elon hat. Um, I do. So BJ, to the moon with this, uh, stock. What do you, what do you think about it?

I think, uh, in terms of the stock, I mean, the process is similar to other IPOs with one difference, that they're allocating 30% shares to retail investors, which is highly unusual. And what's interesting is the amount of control that Elon has. I'm not critical of that. I understand why he always said that in order to get to the— to Mars, it would have to remain a private company. But he's I won't say reneged on that, but it's awfully pricey to do so. And he's got his other project with the self-growing cities related to Optimus that he's got to manage at the same time. I think broadly, if people are going to buy stock or not, look, I bought Tesla stock at $25 a share, so I fired my stockbroker over it because he's like, I don't do high flyers. And I said to him, I don't think you understand the philosophy that seems to be at play with Elon Musk and how he operates. Like, you can all feel the energy, I think, of how the world is fundamentally changing in a positive way. This is why X frustrates me. It's all a bunch of— I know it's a bunch of old boomers that are bitching and complaining about how horrible the world is. I'm like, yeah, it's got its problems, but look where we are shifting. Like, this guy single-handedly redefined the auto sector in good ways and bad ways. There's no question, there's, you know, the trade-offs for everything. And now he is going to popularize into our culture regular conversations in the mainstream of when are we going to get to the moon and when are we going to get to Mars, right? Do you remember when Scott Adams talked a few years ago? He was covering the story, it was all over the place, with Sam Altman and Elon Musk both talking about they think they have solved the fusion problem. It's now down to an engineering problem. Remember that?

Mm-hmm.

Well, I think part of this, it may be just because I'm primed to this because I just finished watching The Expanse. One of the, uh, and that just died. All of a sudden nobody talked about it anymore. But in this, I watched a whole series of article, uh, articles on this fusion technology. And propulsion. And it just so happens there's an element that could be integral to fusion propulsion, and it's called helium-3. It was— there's a couple of science fiction movies that, that covered helium-3 as well in their plots. And that is in abundance, we think, in the southern pole of the moon, which is exactly where Elon and NASA have decided they're going to set up their first, uh, you know, colony, I guess you want to call it, on the moon. So I think there's, like everything else in politics, we only see 30% of what's actually going on. I think there is a long-term vision with all of this stuff. But look how amazing and positive it is, how much positive— like the fact that we are back into, like, the 1950s where our parents grew up, and all the futurism and future technology and how the world's going to change for a better place. We're now in that moment right now. And I think this IPO is a symbol of how, how great the world— we are in the best time to be alive, I believe. And I wish him lots of success. And I thank Elon for everything he's done for, for humanity.

Mm-hmm. I, I agree.

You're spending too much time on X then.

Yeah, I know I am. I mean, I literally turn on X and I am like instantly sick to my stomach. But, um, yes, it's true, it's true. I don't spend too much time on there anymore. Um, all right, so, but then, Owen, I saw a story you posted this morning. Um, well, let me just put this up. Owen, do you want— I want to put this up if you want to. You know, we always have you read Trump's truths. Let me make it bigger. So here's what Trump said yesterday.

So Trump said, the United States will be hitting Iran, whose Navy, Air Force, radar, anti-aircraft, and all their forms of defense, together with most its offensive capability, are gone very hard tonight. At some point in the not too distant future, we will be taking Kharg Island and all other oil infrastructure points and assume total control of their oil and gas markets, much like we have with Venezuela, which is working out brilliantly for both Venezuela and the United States of America. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Okay. And then what did Iran say back?

Well, apparently Iran is threatening to attack SpaceX and Starlink facilities in the Middle East. So interesting timing, I guess, with the IPO today. But they're basically saying that Musk's SpaceX and Starlink facilities are military targets. So they're considering them military targets that they can, in their mind, legitimately go after. Um, so yeah, not, not great how they're trying to attack these things. I think it certainly in my mind would be civilian facilities that should not be targeted militarily. I can understand that they have played a role in some military operations like with Ukraine, etc., where the Starlink terminals have been used for military applications, but that doesn't really mean that they are, you know, dual-use military technology. I think it's literally just an internet connection as far as Starlink goes, and I don't know what SpaceX would have to do with it unless they're thinking that we just shouldn't have any satellites. But I think it is something that hopefully won't be followed through on or that we'll be able to protect against.

Beverly asks, what will they blow it up with? Exactly. Good luck to them. Aye, aye, aye. All right, so I don't even know. That was like 15 years ago because that was from last night in Iran War updates. So where are we now this morning?

Well, it's, it's, it's another one of these two movies on one screen things where on one hand there were strikes overnight that took out some things, and obviously recently there's been strikes from Iran into Kuwait and other places. But I think at the same time Trump is saying that they have some kind of memorandum of understanding and that they're about to make a deal and it might happen this weekend and it might be the end of it. So We're still, in my mind, in the same mode we've been in for a few weeks where it's like you really don't know. It's like Schrödinger's war where it might be over, it might not. It could blow up at any time. It could end at any time. And we really don't know what the situation is because you have statements coming out on both sides. There have been stories that say Iran is denying that they've agreed to any of these things. They've denied that they've agreed to getting rid of their nuclear program or getting rid of the nuclear dust or all the other things that have been conditions of this deal. But at the same time, Trump is saying, yeah, they've already, they've already agreed to all these things. So I don't know how we can know what the truth is, because it could be that Trump is right, that the people he's negotiating with have agreed to some of these things. But maybe they're totally separate people that are just saying we didn't agree to that. And so, you know, I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. It's kind of just up in the air at this point.

All right, BJ, have you heard anything that we need to know about with this?

I think just the importance of the framing that a lot of people miss, and maybe for me, we deal a lot with this Iranian BS in Canada because we had until recently an IRGC— we actually had two IRGC members of parliament that somehow got elected to office. I think that the couple of things that's important to remember is firstly, Trump knows the IRGC, the Iranian mullahs, they have to go. He knows that. He's not dumb. And neither the people around him are dumb. But, and this is something I think Scott Adams illustrated at some point, Trump is a master salesman, right? We all agree with that. Yeah. Which means he's a bullshit artist. And I don't say that necessarily in a negative context, but he's a bullshit artist, and he knows he's dealing with a bunch of bullshit artists on the other side. Or are you going to try to kick the can down the road until the next administration comes in? I think what's important is to factor the political cycle. So, you know, I know from my Republican friends in the US that the fundraising time is the beginning of the year. Starts, you know, after New Year's, January, February, March. That's where you get the earmarked commitments to the PACs and the donors, who's going to give money, when they're going to do it. Done in the first part of the year and trails off into the summer where people go, go away. And during the summer, this is like vacation season, like people aren't around because politics— I know from my campaigns, politics starts after Labor Day. And, you know, maybe there's going to be some October surprises, and maybe President Showman, whose marketing technique seems to come out of WWF wrestling again, I'm not saying that as a negative, that we're gonna see, you know, as much as people all back and forth and people get frustrated, they're just bullshitting with each other. They know everybody's lying to each other. He's playing the game. Listen, I said on a space yesterday, if Osama bin Laden came back to life and said, Trump, I can solve your problem, Trump would say, all right, let's see what he got. He'll— he's open to doing a deal with anyone as long as he can get a deal. But at the end of the day He understands this is a subversion technique to weaken him into the primaries, and you're not going to see him into political mode until October on this issue. And they're gonna, you know, they're gonna waste his time all through the summer, back and forth, blah blah blah blah, BS BS, whatever. But if they finally haven't done something after Labor Day, you're gonna see, boom, okay, it's time to execute the strategy, get rid of them, and let's have some Hail Mary wins leading up into the midterms, things like Iran. And there's another issue where people are very frustrated with, which day to day they don't know what's going on, when's it going to happen, whatever. And that is Cuba. It's the same strategy with both countries, and two of which are some of the major political catastrophes from the 20th century. And he has— I think he has largely solved it, and I think you're going to see a resolution both these issues leading into, into the midterms. So I, I wouldn't— again, you're listening to a salesman who's BSing the other salesman on the other side. It's just kind of day-to-day. Yeah, okay, whatever. We know they're negotiating in public.

So BJ, what would you say to my friend Sophia? She said this is genocide and against Geneva Convention.

Uh, Sophia doesn't understand what genocide is. She has, uh, very little background in it. That's what I would say. People often— this where Scott Adams often— you know, and this also comes from hypnosis— we, we get our opinions from the things that we hear more frequently. And if you go online and you keep cherry-picking sources that are just gonna say genocide, genocide, genocide, genocide, genocide, guess what? After enough times, you're gonna adopt it and you're gonna think it's your own opinion, but it's really not. So I— that's a, that's a broader conversation to have over a period of time, but that's just people who are regurgitating things that they hear frequently. Simple as that.

Okay.

Um, so I— By the way, by the way, if it's genocide, why are the biggest proponents of America and Israel striking Iran the Iranians who live there? Like, they're saying, please, please bomb the IRGC, get rid of them. Because most— it's— there's such a divide between Iranians who live there under this, you know, uh, theocratic regime and the regime who are largely foreigners who don't even belong there, right? So they are looking forward to the day that the Iranian regime is gone, the same way the Cubans are looking forward to the day that the Castro regime is finally put to rest.

Okay, so I don't know enough about it. I mean, and remember, you guys, everything— it's just like we say, it's our opinion. So yes, you're right, that's BJ's opinion. Mine is nowhere near his because I don't know enough about it. I just, I don't really have a fully thought-out opinion on everything. Um, Owen, anything you want to say to that? I have another question after.

Um, I, I think, you know, it certainly, it, it makes sense that Trump is paying close attention to the political ramifications of this. I've seen that throughout. So I think I agree on that piece of it, that he's gaging his actions according to how it's affecting the stock market, how it's affecting political views. But at the same time, I think he is sticking to being in the strong position, making sure that he's seen as the strong player and that he's in control and maintaining that frame throughout the process. And I think that's part of his negotiation technique and part of, you know, you can call it salesman, it's the same sort of thing. But I think it definitely is something where Trump is trying to do the what's best for the United States in this context. And at least as he understands it, it's that we can't allow Trump to have— I mean, Iran to have a nuclear weapon. So, you know, I see it in that context. I am concerned mainly on the impact on the economy because it might be true that no one's going to— you know, anything that happens politically in terms of the rhetoric or the narrative might not matter until we're closer to the midterms. I think the economy is, in my mind, one of the deciding factors, probably the deciding factor in the midterms. If we have much lower prices on gas and other things back, you know, in the October and November timeframe, then people are more likely to vote Republican to keep that going. But if things are really expensive and gas prices are $5 a gallon and, you know, everything is looking bad economically from an affordability perspective, then I think Republicans are going to lose a lot of votes and it may end up going to the Democrats. So that's my concern.

I'm with you, E.J. We should be fixing America instead of helping Iran by bombing them, trying to change your way of life, yada yada. That's my common sense thought. And then I know that there's people like BJ who are like, no, no, there's a bigger picture. And I think I'm just more middle of the road. It's not— you guys, I don't have TDS. Everybody relax. Okay? It's okay. It's just my opinion. I just see 1,000 things that need to be fixed here at home, none of which are happening. Um, in my opinion, as always. So, you know, I— yeah, so I'm like, I'm— I say I'm over it. Like, you know, I want— I want there to be peace all over the world. That's just, you know, not realistic. I really do. Um, and I feel like I see all sides of this story from everybody's perspective, and I'm just like, I agree with you, I agree with you. Yes, BJ, I see your point. Sophia, I totally see your point. Owen, I totally see your point. I have my point. So to me, it's like I don't think anybody's really right or wrong. Um, I feel like we all have these differing opinions and for our own good reasons, so I can't get that dug in on it. But one thing I am very dug in on, um, and BJ, I'm going to come to you first on this, is the Islam problem that we're having in this country. And all I want to know— I've reached out to some of my friends who are like best friends with Trump. And I'm like, just tell me he understands this and he's going to take care of Islam in America. And, um, you know, my one friend's like, you know, don't you worry, you know, like, he knows what's going on. I'm like, but what are we doing? What are we doing? So, you know, we just, uh, we see Belfast, Ireland, they just had an attempted beheading in the middle of the street by a, a migrant who just, you know, flooded into their country, pinned this Irishman down, sitting on his chest, literally trying to like saw his face off. Okay. Um, and we just had a beheading in Italy, same situation, beheaded an elderly woman in Italy. Um, I'm mentioning two, there's probably a hundred. And BJ, I know you were just in Ireland. Um, I, Personally, I am like 100% behind the Irish people fighting for their country. It's like you're screaming into a pillow and your government doesn't give a shit. They're not helping you. They don't care. And I feel like that here. I feel like that here, that we're screaming that we have an Islam problem and I don't see anything happening about it. I just keep seeing them being advanced into political positions and positions of powers, taking over our streets, taking over our schools, taking over our way of life. There are a lot more of them than Christian people, Jewish people, put them all together. Um, what are we doing? I am actually afraid.

Yeah, that's why we're focusing on Iran. That's the whole point. This is, this is the process of political entryism, of geopolitics, that these people are affiliated with the Iranian regime, uh, and Qatar. But although there's a little bit of friction now, so maybe they can come over to us, although they're Muslim Brotherhood, I'm not so sure. But they are laundering massive amounts of money, hundreds of millions, billions of dollars into the West to subvert the universities and the political process. And if you want to see an example of that, Canada is the perfect example. And they're trying to do that in the United States. That's why, if you, if you're really concerned about the Islamists and extremists, this is why Iran is so important. That's why they don't stop talking about it, because it's been going on now for 50 years. If you notice, you can follow the trajectory of the major cultural shift towards collectivism and the brainwashing on university campuses. And when it got accelerated, it was accelerated significantly after the mullahs got into power. And them and the Brotherhood, both in the Brotherhood's documentation— what did they say in the Holy Land Foundation trial in evidence that was submitted in court? Is that we are going to use Palestine to leverage a wedge within the West, and they're going to do it through the university system. It's exactly— this is why it's so important. What Trump's trying to do is trying to cut off the head of the snake and the money that's coming in. And you see the result of it on the ground level of now it's gotten to the point where it's become excessively violent because now that they have enough of these people who've engaged in political entryism and hold, um, positions of power in the West, what do they do? They open up the borders and they flood the countries with Islamists. That's the whole purpose of all of this. Um, and you know, it's really scary. I think what a lot of people missed about— I mean, yesterday there was the woman in Italy.

Wait, can I just jump in really quick? I just, I just want to say, so yes, Scott said focus on individuals, not groups. Scott also knew and has said that Islam is— it's a different problem. And, and, um, I just wanted to address— someone else said— oh, and by the way, Islam's not a religion, you guys. So, um, it's not a religion, it's an ideology, and the ideology is to get rid of anyone who's not them and take over the world. Okay, it's not a religion, so I just want to make sure I say that clearly. Um, okay, and BJ, um, I'm going to toss it back to you, but I want to know how it's going to affect us here in America. Like, how are we getting rid of these people? Because I don't— or Canada— I don't see it happening.

Okay, so first couple of things, uh, yeah, individualism is a Western value. That's a, that is a product of the Enlightenment. The Islamists are collective, so they don't hold individual values, right? They don't view the world the same way as we do. These are completely different filter. With the Ireland thing, the one thing I wanted to mention that people missed is, remember all the reports that he had— the guy is now blind, or at least half blind or something, an eye was taken out, and he was trying to cut off his nose. Well, if you look at a picture of the Sphinx in Egypt, what do you see? Or the statues in Rome, what do you see? They all have the noses and the eyes gouged out. That is an indicator of extremist interpretation. Of Islamic texts from the hadiths. That's why he was doing it. That is a signal that they are extremists, and that seems to go over people's heads significantly. Wow. The way to fix it in the West, unfortunately, the only way to do it— I mean, look, there's good and there's bad. The good is it's sort of like when Trump, the Trump administration, went to Washington, and what did they say? They said of all the crimes that occurred in DC, it's something like 85% of them were committed by, I don't know, was 500 people or something like that, or 100 people, a small group of people, right? It's the same thing in the Muslim world. Like, we know who they are in Canada. There's 300 or 400 people. They are tied to the Muslim Brotherhood infrastructure, Jama'at Islami, or PFLP. They're all affiliated groups under the Muslim Brotherhood umbrella. That's why Trump said he was going to ban them. And they'll set up an NGO. They'll start laundering money through international law firms that come from the Morsi government in Egypt and play nice with everybody, and they're involved in politics. Um, they're the ones who bring it in, but it's the same group of people. And once one of their charities loses status, then what do they do? They shut it down, and their brother or uncle or father starts another charity that starts doing the same thing. It's really those core group of people, the hardcore Islamists who— and they're usually lawyers or physicists or chemists, they're highly educated people— those are the ones who need to be denaturalized and deported and permanently banned along with their entire families, which is— that's difficult for people in the West to digest because our filter is around individualism. But we need to understand they are exactly like communists, but— or maybe like the mafia is a better example. They keep it within the family, and they're very collective in how they go about trying to subvert the West. That's really the only thing that's going to solve the problem over the long term. And there are constitutional challenges, but we see from the Trump administration, uh, he's willing to look at the loopholes to get rid of some of these people, because I know this is an ongoing conversation behind the scenes. And the other good thing is everybody knows. Everybody in politics knows. Even the lefties know. They're just afraid because they're all cowards in politics. They always think, well, the next election will deal with it, or the next administration, they'll deal with it. I, you know, if I talk about this, the media is going to attack me and I won't get elected. They don't. And Trump seems to be one of the few politicians Rupert Lowe in the UK as well, who understands, no, no, people respect strength and honesty even, even when they disagree with you. Then, then you're going to get— remember we talked about prestige, where they'll be willing to listen to you.

Okay, suicidal empathy. People are scared. You better stop being scared. I mean, grow up. All right, Owen, go ahead.

Yeah, well, I mean, I, I think it's— it is a serious issue. I think we need to do everything we can to keep the Islamists from taking control in the country. I think from what I've seen, the— as BJ was referring to, Trump did designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a foreign terrorist organization. So I think he is taking it seriously, but I think he's primarily looking at it from a counterterrorism standpoint and a border standpoint. So they've designated a lot of the countries that we're talking about where these people are coming from as places where we won't let people in. And so he's trying to keep the— at least the terrorists out and to get rid of any that are here. And so I think Trump is taking action about that, and he's also taking military action to get rid of al-Qaeda in Africa and other places that isn't talked about very much. You know, we just had a pretty major military operation in Africa that doesn't really seem to ever get talked about in the news, but it had to do with eliminating ISIS in Africa. And so there are actions being taken, but I think it's very targeted, and I don't know that it is as much as you'd like to see. You know, someone who a lot of people in this broadcast don't like, John Cornyn, as a senator, has proposed legislation. It's amusingly called the Boot Sharia Law Act, which is ban outsiders openly touting Sharia law, in May. And that's at this point just a proposed law, but it would potentially bar any non-citizens from any kind of asylum or green cards or things like that that are touting Sharia law. So I guess you could at least be behind the law, if not the person, um, to see if we could get that passed. And, um, that would probably go a long way to helping with what you're talking about.

I mean, how is Ilhan Omar still in office? How?

Well, well, the FBI I think is investigating her, and I don't know, if you're under investigation and you're in office, you need to leave office.

Like, if the FBI has enough to investigate you, you're the wrong person for the job. I don't know, we're so lax about this shit, you know. It's like, these are the people that are— I mean, they're not helping us, you know. We— I only see them as people that are interfering and taking down our country. I don't— I'm not talking about Islam, I'm talking about politicians. So it's like, if you weren't born here, and like I said, it— you should, you should have generational, um, citizenship. Like, you can't like have— like, your parents had you here? No, you're like, your grandparents had to have been here. Like, there has to go back in the lineage because we are so effed. I mean, remember, you guys, when I showed you some of the Sharia law laws and rules? You can do whatever you want to advance Sharia and advance Islam. You can lie, you can cheat, you can say whatever you have to say. You can, you can do whatever you want to do, it's all on the table as long as you're advancing Islam. So these people will lie right to your face. They're not a religion, you guys. It's not a religion. It's a, it's a, a way of life. And they believe if you're not them, you shouldn't even exist. Okay, so you're talking about people taking over the world. I mean, they're taking over the world. And, um, you know, it's like, I don't know why people aren't taking this like the most serious problem we have right now, because I'm looking on X and I'm seeing the streets flooded with radical Islam. I don't even need to say radical. Islam is radical. Um, it has nothing to do with the Constitution, our way of life. These people have no desire to assimilate or to even pretend to assimilate. I just saw a guy did a video. He got in a a taxi with some Islam guy, and the guy was giving him trouble, and he was like, hey, you know, just complete my fare, you know, and take me. He's like, he was basically like with his accent, like, no, motherfucker. He's like, this is our country now. New York belongs to me now, and you're outnumbered, and you know, you're— it's not yours anymore. We took it. And it's like, that's really their attitude. And You know, go back and watch the interview with Dr. Gad Saad and what he said, this suicidal empathy. Like, we're creating potentially our own end of our country because we're afraid to say something. What, you're going to hurt someone's feelings? Nobody gives a shit about the feelings of the American citizens. So we got to be like, uh-oh, until they're beheading someone you love in the street and gouging their face off. You know, it's like, stop it. This is insanity. Your kids have to grow up. And like I said to you the other day, like, I don't have kids. When I'm done, I'm done. I don't have to worry about my children and their children. A lot of you do. And, you know, I'm sorry I'm getting really emotional, but I think this is our number one problem right now in this country and in this world, because we don't want to offend people. We're like, just murder us instead. Okay, that's how I see it.

So by the way, according to some Islamist in the chat, I'm gonna collect a $7,000 check. I'm like, where? I just blew a water pump on my truck yesterday.

Oh, for the love of God.

For opposing the Muslim Brotherhood, that would be great.

Oh my God. Yeah, exactly. So I just, I, I, I pray, I pray you guys, you know, I don't know, I don't know how and who, but workshop this with your friends. Like, talk about it with the moms you know, the dads you go. Maybe you guys can come up with a plan, you know, like go talk to your representatives. I know it seems like nothing ever happens, but make a stink, you know. Sometimes the squeaky wheel gets the oil. And they have, you know, there's towns in New Jersey that are blasting the call to prayer. Are you kidding me? Like, you, you live in this town your whole life and now this call to prayer is being broadcast over speakers multiple times a day and you don't have a say? And this is America? I mean, It's so bizarre. So I'm gonna get off my rant, but, um, you know, unless BJ and Owen want to say something. But I get really worked up over this. This is actually like my biggest fear, so that's why I'm emotional.

But all right, just one last comment on this topic. I've asked people this a number of times, people in the know, you link to politics in the US. I always say to them, give me 5 primary indicators that the person you're talking to is Muslim Muslim Brotherhood. Go. And then they stare at me like with a blank stare. I said, don't you think that's a problem? The fact that we have not educated our own people what are the signs to look for for the very people who are trying to kill you? I tell the— I asked these people at a conference with a bunch of Jewish people, I said, they're trying to exterminate you. What are the 5 indicators and warnings you know somebody's Muslim Brotherhood? Not a clue. Maybe that's a place that we can start and I may be putting an article together in my Substack in the near future and submitting it to some of the publications to see if we can start that ball forward.

Yeah, I'd love to see, um, like a bullet point thing, you know, something that people can just look at and their eyes can just kind of take a photo of it and, and then know it.

I'll give you hints. Number one, free Palestine. That's your number one indicator, as we know from Holy Land.

But anyways, okay. All right, Owen, any last words on this?

Well, I think certainly we do need to stamp out the Sharia law stuff, especially whenever it's going. I think given the rights and freedoms that we have in this country, some of the free speech stuff is more difficult to handle, but Sharia law is fundamentally incompatible with our legal system. And so wherever that's cropping up, I think we need to put it down. And that includes what's going on in Michigan where they're kind of making room for that stuff. Obviously some up in Minnesota and even down in Texas, and I think Texas Texas is doing the most to counteract it, where they're trying to say we can't have like a Muslim city or a Sharia law city that they were trying to propose. But it seems like Michigan and Minnesota are much more welcoming to these things in a suicidal empathy sort of way. And so I think that's where we need to make things happen, to just make sure we can't let any of the stuff take root here.

And but yes, true. And by the way, all this like gay pride stuff happening in these Muslim areas, that's all for show, you guys. They can do whatever they want to advance their cause. So they're trying to make the gay community, the trans community. I want to say gay, this like trans community feels safe around them. It's bullshit. They're lying right to your face. They're luring you in so you get on their side. And trust me, they think you're disgusting, vile, and, and should be killed. Okay, so don't be fooled because you're dancing around in their, uh, Capitol building. It's, it's all for show. It's not real.

And I posted a story a few days ago, I think, with some videos from people who— women who had become Muslims started wearing the burkas or whatever, and then they realized their mistake. Basically, they, they didn't, didn't, did not enjoy the experience of being Muslim once they tried it.

Mm-hmm. Oh man, you guys, listen, I know we're at time, and honestly, I just had to say thank you so much for, you know, letting me have a soapbox for a minute on an issue that I feel like is just so, so, so important for all of our existence. The whole world, you guys, the whole world. Um, thank you for being respectful in the comments. And letting me rant and letting us talk about it. I'm not afraid to talk about it. I am not into suicidal empathy. I am not an enabler. I— you can ask my parents. I just— I see it, I say it. So I appreciate the dialogue, you guys.

I think maybe we can reframe the fighting the Muslim Brotherhood or Islamist stuff as fighting the patriarchy, because they absolutely are a patriarchy.

Exactly.

And if you can say we need to fight the patriarchy, look, here's the Islamists that are trying to push the patriarchy. Maybe we could get some of those people on our side.

I mean, Owen, absorb and amplify. By the way, I'm going to talk a little bit more about this on my stream. I'm going to start in about 2 minutes.

Okay, all right, good. So if you want to continue this chat with BJ, um, go on over to his live stream coming up. Um, SJV wants you to talk about this, Owen, in the after party. And, uh, thank you, you guys. Thank you for your comments. I appreciate it. Owen BJ and I were thrilled to be here today. It is actually like the best part for me of my day is coming on here in the morning and getting to start my day chatting with a bunch of really cool people and have friends on. And I love it. Um, BJ, anything you want to plug, say, or do?

Uh, just come over to my stream. I'll be on Locals, primary Locals and, uh, Substack and all my other stuff. Find me on, uh, Substack, bjdictor.substack.com. I do have a number of my articles that have gone out to like Zero Hedge and Daily Bell and stuff. I usually post them there first. And I also do have a Discord, and maybe we'll talk about if I can help you guys too. Or I've got some channels all around positive stuff like new music, health and fitness, all that sort of stuff. And I think that's an important part of this journey of what you're doing for Scott's legacy is how to help people improve their lives. And I think we do that together. We're gonna have positive effect for everybody.

That's nice. Owen, anything you want to say, plug, or do?

No, it's— well, it's Friday. Tomorrow's the afterparty, so come join me on Spaces on Saturday and we'll have our simultaneous sip and talk about the news together.

Oh, I love that. All right, so you guys, somebody said now we need some Akira. So, um, as we all leave, I will play yesterday's, uh, debut of Cha-Ching, and you guys will— we'll see you back on Monday with Marcella.

BJ, thank you so, so much.

You guys say your goodbyes. Here's a little cha-ching, and then we'll talk to you, uh, Monday. Bye guys, thank you.

Bye-bye.

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