The Scott Adams School - 06/17/26 Erica Owen & Jeff ...

Yes, okay.

Good morning, everyone.

Good morning.

Look who's here, how lucky am I?

Hello, here I am.

Look who's here, it's Jeff and Owen. Owen, I let them know that you were out on assignment yesterday working on a big story for us. I hope that went well. We're counting on you.

All right.

For the scoop. So good morning, everybody. I am Erica, you are at the Scott Adams School It is June 17th, 2026. Marcella is doing her lawyer thang today and tomorrow, but she'll be back on Friday because it's a holiday on Friday. It's, yes, Jeff, perplexing, right? It's Juneteenth. Mm-hmm.

I always forget that one.

Yeah, I know. So anyways, I don't know how people will be celebrating Juneteenth. I have an idea not to start off on that foot. But anyway, you guys, listen, and I have not had a sip. Owen just ran in the door. Jeff is just like, ugh, this unprofessional crew. But let's go. We need it.

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Mmm. Sippity doo dah. How cute does Scott look in that one? Aww.

And the coronavirus is a lot better now.

Yeah, he's right. It was probably that sip fixed it. All right, so good morning, everybody. Let me get this going here. Okay, so last night I was laughing because Lisa DiPasquale, friend of the show, she co-hosted with us one day and she was on a Locals with us one evening. So we're both friends with Michael Malice and For some reason, Michael Malice has a sea creature— I was going to say fetish, but that's not the right word—

thing.

Interest. Yes, an interest. Thank you. Thank you. So there was like a little sea creature. Oh, of course, you guys, I'm throwing Rumble out the window today. Okay. So this won't even matter because I— okay, let's hope this is it. So I saw this sea creature and I was like, oh my God, immediately I must tag Michael Malice in this. And so funny, because when I went to it, I saw that Lisa had just tagged Michael Malice in it. So I was like, okay, well, this is my little creature feature of the morning. Okay, here it is. This is— oh, by the way, this is called— oh, so it's a deep sea, deep sea isopod believed to be— let me read it— the Bathypod. Bathypod. Pusaurus Nibellini. Okay, so shout out to people who love it.

How cool!

It's rather elegant in a clumsy kind of way.

She's out there vibing, doing its own thing. Right?

I like, I like the arms. It's like jazz hands, like two sets of jazz hands with a little tutu.

Oh, oh, oh, I didn't see that coming.

Me either.

The music is everything, and that music's actually down there. Like when you go, when you go down there, you know, with James Cameron or whoever, like that's what's playing.

Interesting.

I did not know that either. All right, so goodbye, cute creature. I don't know why, but I was obsessed with that, and I thought, that's, that's got to be, that's got to be on the Scott Adams School. So shout out, Michael Malice, a sea creature just for you. Um, Jeff, Owen, how have you guys been? Owen, how was your day yesterday? We missed you.

It was good, busy. Just had to do some work, so Taking care of the day job.

Ah, yes, yes, the day job. Um, Jeff, we missed you. How's the farming going and the chickens and all that good stuff?

Yeah, I was just telling you backstage that, uh, we've got some blackberry bushes and we went to the store last night to get some stuff to support those blackberry bushes so that they can grow how they need to grow and we can harvest some, uh, berries before too long.

So is this the first blackberry endeavor? Yeah.

Yeah, like, uh, we've never grown blackberries before, and, and our, our neighbor dropped off a bucket of blackberry shoots and was like, hey, you know, plant as many as you want. And we're like, okay. And so we planted a few and we said to ourselves, we'll see how it goes. And those things want to grow. And, and so, uh, they're getting to the point now where they— we need to create a lattice sort of situation so that they can actually grow appropriately instead of I guess willy-nilly all over the place.

All right, so drop your favorite berry in the chat. Mine is the blackberry. So I want to see your favorite berries. Owen, what's your favorite berry?

I would say blueberry.

Oh yeah, I'd peg you for a blueberry. What about you, Jeff?

I tried to grow some blueberry bushes, but they never took. I think maybe the rabbits got to them too quickly.

I love blueberry bushes. We have a few and every year we'll typically get a bucket or two of blueberries, but we had a really late frost and I don't know. I don't know if we're going to get any this year because we had like a frost that took out maybe all of our blueberries. But we'll see.

A lot of people like Chuck Berry, boysenberry, strawberries, mulberries. All right. So you guys, fun fact about the strawberry. If I have to know, you have to know. The little seeds on the exterior of a strawberry are ovaries. You're welcome. Hasn't stopped me from having them, but I had to know, you have to know. Ugh, okay, Mary and Barry. Oh, shout out Mary and Barry, that was a good one. Okay, so that's the Barry talk. All right, now I have to get an update from Jeff on Spencer, but he hasn't done, I don't think more video. I think this latest one that I have sort of sums up what's coming next and it is badass. So I'm sure a lot of you have seen this. If you haven't, let's hear from Spencer. And then Jeff's going to give us an update.

Now that the campaign portion of my mission to save Los Angeles is coming to a close and I'm moving on to the next more interesting phase, listen, I've spent a lot of time slaying everybody. I've ridiculed everyone on the roster. And I just want to say from the bottom of my heart, I'd like to take the chance to apologize to absolutely nobody. You think you can get rid of me that easily? I know a lot of dimwitted jerks thought I was in this for a grift, that I was gonna roll up and leave town if I didn't get into City Hall.

It's just not fair.

Hey morons, I didn't get in this for political power. I got in this to expose this corrupt machine and nothing has changed. You enjoy your worthless meetings in City Hall.

Listen, you have all this information, you're running for mayor. Show what you're really about or get the fuck out of the race.

I'm gonna be lighting you up every single day and now I don't have to worry about offending CNN viewers. I don't have a campaign. Law's hamstringing me now. It's war. It's zero hour for Los Angeles. Angelenos are now stuck with two morons responsible for all their problems, and they have to choose between dumb and dumber.

Hey!

That's not a choice. That's the machine protecting the machine. And now every problem that plagues Los Angeles because of these two corrupt communists is going to accelerate, and the city will tumble headlong into the abyss. You have no idea how many major developers, hoteliers, business owners, entrepreneurs have been texting me saying they're packing up and leaving town.

More of your favorite restaurants will be shuttering That means less tax revenue.

That means the city has to cut services. More potholes, less firefighters, less police patrols, more criminals, more drug addicts terrorizing your communities. And we haven't ended it. You have no idea how bad things are about to get for this city. Look at this place already. Weeds growing from every crack and crevice. Graffiti over every square inch of public space. Garbage, drugs, feces, burned up dogs, burned down towns, abandoned storefronts. This city is a mess and you're about to reward it. The arsonist who torched a place with 4 more years of destruction? I know he's very bitter. My goal hasn't changed. I've been laser-focused on stopping these commie animals, and I will stop them. If you think we uncovered a lot of fraud and evil in the campaign, just wait. We have some recordings of one of your exalted candidates doing and saying something that would make her resign in shame. I was saving it for the general election. Go ahead and pick your demon, certify your choice, and then you get to see it. So Karen Nithya, ask yourself, Is it possible that one of your employees may have a recording of you doing or saying something that would force you to resign in disgrace? Hope you sleep well at night over the next 5 months because you know who hasn't slept well at all for the last 17 months? My mom. All my neighbors in the Palisades. All the moms who worry about their kids walking past drug addicts in front of their schools. All the business owners getting crushed in the LA economy, worried that they can't stay in business and feed their kids. Angelinos have been struggling for years now, all while corrupt politicians politicians and fraudulent NGOs profit off the misery and fleece us for the tax dollars. Well, now we're flipping the script. I want all of you awake at night sweating and worried about 5 AM when the FBI blazers bust in the door, breaking open your office, because I assure you, they're coming. You think your election was gonna stop me? If you wanna stop me—

You're gonna have to fucking kill me! Oh, I need a microphone to drop. And that last scene with Ruthie.

Oh, bang it.

Oh my God. Honestly, I'm not even kidding. I've seen it and I have goosebumps, you guys. Little goosies. Okay, Jeff. Holy shit.

Yeah.

Just tell me.

I saw this the other day and I shared it and I quote tweeted it and I said, energy monster, because that's what Spencer Pratt is. He, in the same tradition of Donald Trump, he has this ability to take whatever the conversation is, build energy around it, and then use it to serve the purpose that he's interested in. And compare that to what a typical sort of concession speech is. Like, I didn't see any any concession in that speech other than, "My campaign's coming to a close, but here's what's gonna happen next." And I think it's gonna be really interesting to see what he does next. I've heard some whispers that Steve Hilton may, or at least is exploring the option of possibly taking Spencer Pratt on the campaign trail with him. And so that would be really interesting. And how about that leaked audio sort of stormy cloud hanging over the Bass and Rahman campaigns? Because to me, it serves two purposes. One is, you know, I have no reason to think he does not have the goods. You know, he was saving it for the general election. But two, it's kind of nice from a perspective of it makes them sweat a little bit and think, oh, well, someone on my team is leaking audio, which, you know, is— I'm not all that concerned. Like, I think, you know, given who they are and what they've done to LA and what they're going to do to LA, they, you know, I have no sympathy for them, right? And so, yeah, it's a really interesting situation.

I mean, I could watch a feature film of that ad. Like, if they made that 2 hours, I would go to the movie theater and I would watch it. Owen, What do you just— just anything about this?

Well, I do think Spencer Pratt needs to work on his rhyming for his rap. He had this nice rap beat, but none of it rhymed. No, I think it was great. I loved it. I think he did a great job with it, and I hope he does rip it up. I mean, I think it's ridiculous. I do think it's probably— they stole the election from him, and, um, you know, allegedly we don't have evidence of it, but I think we certainly have signs of it. And, um, you know, RIP to LA because I don't see how they're going to recover from this.

Um, yeah. Oh, whoever just came in late, take a sip. Ready everyone? Quick sip. 3, 2, 1 for the latecomers. There you go. Mm-hmm. Okay, so I mean, it does look a lot like same scenario as 2020. Okay, everyone go to bed. Then there's like this drop of ballots that are just like all for Biden.

Yeah.

But the, you know, but they didn't do like the down ballot. It was, you know, it was just so obvious, so.

This was even worse because it wasn't just that they were late mail-in ballots that swung it. 'Cause to an extent you can kind of see the argument at least that mail-in ballots tend to be more Democrats, right? But the ratio between Raman and Bass totally changed, like radically in that late ballot phase. Phase where they already know, okay, where are the numbers, where do we want the numbers to be, and they knew where to swing the votes.

Mm-hmm.

And so it would make a lot more plausible sense, or you could make a better argument to defend it if you said, okay, look at what happened with the early mail-in ballots, look what happened with the ratio of Bass to ramen, and it was pretty consistent after that, but it's not consistent at all. I mean, it doesn't make any sense that suddenly you'd have all these late voters that love ramen and none of them showed up up in the early voting.

That's right.

Yeah.

Some things just don't pass the smell test at all. And this is one of those things. And I love how people raging on behalf of the machine just say sort of some variation of shut up and stop questioning things. Like that's all they have is like, oh, well, you just shouldn't question it. And it's just—

From the people who never shut up.

It's not even all questions anymore. I think someone already pled guilty, or at least was charged with getting like Skid Row homeless people to register to vote and paying them to vote, and that some of the Skid Row people were admitting that people were paying them to do that. So yeah, I've seen a lot of evidence that I think is essentially fraud. You know, you're paying people to vote for who you want them to vote for.

Well, it's like Scott said, you know, we have a system that is built to be rigged. You can't audit it. You can't— there's no safety features to this. So, and the Democrats knew that. Like I said a couple of weeks ago, Elizabeth Warren, when they were shown the Dominion system, they were like, oh no, this isn't good. Like, this isn't safe and secure. Yet somehow then they signed off on it. So again, if you can't trust your elections, you can't believe that your vote actually gets counted and matters. You don't have anything. So, you know, we're always like, oh, you know, you're upset about this and that, the only thing you can do is vote. But then when you're like, well, when I vote, it's rigged. It's so blatantly rigged. I don't— I, I saw somebody in the chat, I think it was you, Sean, saying that you think Spencer going out with Hilton will be bad for Hilton. I don't think so. I, I don't think so at all. I, I think LA— I think LA knows it was robbed, and I think that the people who have already put their toe in the pool of being like, "Hey, I'm out there and I wanted Spencer and I took the bold step to be like, I'm like coming out of the closet for a Republican," even though he doesn't like flaunt himself as a Republican, they have a lot to lose now. So it would be really interesting because I feel like those people are gonna get the resources and the people they know behind this to find out if it was rigged because now they need to save face in Hollywood. So I think everything about—

Yeah.

What's happening in this election is actually really good for the moving forward of our lives because they put it all out there in plain sight and you can't go back from this now. So people who supported him are out there. Um, the rigging was so obvious and Spencer has nothing to lose now and he has such great people in his corner and money.

Mm-hmm.

I don't know, I see this as a positive. And also, Lemon Minty, I still think he's gonna win to be the mayor. I don't feel like it's over because it's gonna be discovered. That's me. What do you think, Owen? Do you think he still has a chance?

I don't know. I mean, it's such a challenge with elections because of, like you said, the system is not auditable. It's not something that courts wanna touch. So I'm always pessimistic about any kind of election case because it seems like the courts do everything they can to stay out of it. And the stuff that happened in Arizona with Kari Lake was the biggest example of that recently, I think, where she had like something like 20 different claims and they just said, "We're throwing out 19 of 'em without even looking at them and we're gonna let you go forward with one so we can just tell you that it doesn't matter because the one isn't enough to swing the result, so who cares?" And it was just blatant. And I think the Supreme Court has seemed to wanna stay out of things too, where they don't wanna take those election cases. And we had another case, I think, where— Yeah. Someone challenged one of the illegal things that was done in 2020, 'cause a lot of it was illegal, a lot of it went around the state legislature, and it very clearly was not according to election law and the Constitution. And someone challenged it and said, "Hey, we can't do it this way, this isn't legal." And someone said, "Well, the election hasn't happened yet, so you're doing it too early." And then after the election, they said, "Fine." Now they did it, we had the election, and they said, "Oh, now it's too late." And it's just ridiculous.

It's disgusting.

I don't think we can count on the courts to come to the rescue, 'cause I just don't think they will.

Right, so, all right, so in the chat on all the platforms, all the different groups here, if you're living in California, you know, in the LA area, can LA survive another 4 years? But like from where they are now, it's gonna get much worse. What, you know, can they survive another Democrat administration over there? I don't think so. So Jeff, you know, I don't see them. I can't even imagine, like, it's so bad. You just saw in the video how bad it is. And the fact that people are putting up with this and thinking this is the way, like, this is okay, like, I should just be living this way because, uh, Democrats. I mean, aren't we at a breaking point?

Yeah, so I just think about the, like, the frog slowly boiling in the in the water. And I think that metaphor holds true when it comes to just decline as a choice because you think about how these conditions slowly deteriorate over time and then no one thinks to take a stand because it's just going little by little. And then at a certain point, it feels hopeless because they look around and there's a dude with a machete over here, people are shooting up over here, people abusing dogs over there. One thing I do know, like this whole journey for Spencer Pratt started when his house burned down. And so he seems to take tragedy and then manufacture that into something more meaningful and higher impact. And so I wonder about getting an election rug pulled from you. I wonder, is this gonna catapult him to be president one day?

You know?

I know.

It's just like the arc is like, maybe he ends up being governor at some point. I have a sense that this is only going to fuel him. Uh, it's like rocket fuel for him.

And he's like, he's young, he's like, he's like an energy monster, and he's, you know, um, like just so driven, and he always has been from everything I've ever known and read and seen about him for many years. You know, he's, he feeds on this stuff, and you know, you may have just poked the wrong bear. And you know, you thought, oh, he's just Spencer Pratt, another reality star. Well, mm, pretty good track record with reality stars affecting change in the country. So, and yes, I saw the comments. I am fully aware of the shit show I'm living in called New Jersey, which is fast approaching California's insanity. And, and that's saying a lot because California is a massive state. Yeah. New Jersey is teeny tiny, same size as Israel actually. And we are just catching up at lightning speed. So yes, I am not New Jersey. Someone said, "Funny watching New Jersey, you know, say something about California." Well, I'm not New Jersey, but I live here. And New Jersey is a disgrace. So I actually am going to dig more into what's happening in New Jersey with some people who are on the inside that will come on. And yeah, it's insanity out there. But that's what I mean. Like, I just feel like there has to be some kind of intervention with California because it can't go any further. New Jersey can't go any further. I mean, it's— the decay is so crazy that I just feel like something has to change. People have to, you know, quietly, even like at home, just be like, we can't do this anymore. Like, where are we going to go? Where are we going to live? Like, there's no— better place really. It's just gonna spread out. So, oh yeah, yes. So Antifa in New Jersey, the whole thing, it's insanity. All right, so here's a little palate cleanser while we switch topics. Did you know, Owen, I feel like you're gonna laugh at me.

Mm-hmm.

So look, you guys, there's a new organ in our body. This is a hard left turn. So it's called the mesentery and it's a new organ. They don't know what it does yet. I just wanted to show it to you. I needed like a little, little moment.

Looks like a sea creature.

It looks like a sea creature. So they thought it was just there to kind of like hold other organs and intestines together and kind of like keep them balanced and upright. But no, they've discovered that it has an actual function and feature.

They don't know what it is yet.

Studying it. So congratulations, everybody. Welcome your new organ to your body. And if you were short an organ, now you have just gotten a fresh new one. So shout out to the mesentery. Whoop, whoop. That was your science news of the day. Okay. An even better palate cleanser. Okay. So you guys, I don't know, in the chat, listen, there's a lot of Stephen Miller stans. Like we love Stephen Miller. But I'm not gonna lie, Scott Adams, you know, he's giving Stephen Miller a run for his money. Oh, it's called the mesentery. I'll spell it. Someone wants to write it. M as in Mary, E-S-E-N-T-E-R-Y.

So—

And you're saying they don't know what it does yet?

No, but they said—

How do they know?

How do they know it's an organ?

They, they've discovered so far that it's not just there to hold something in place. They say it has a function now, like you need this or it functions in some way and that's what they're digging into.

Okay.

All right, so more, Owen's grokking it right now. So Owen will give us an update.

I'm looking up what I can find about it, but I mean, I think it looks like something they knew was there, but to your point, I think you made earlier, they've thought it was just sort of to hold things in place as opposed to doing something functional.

Yes.

You know, when I hear someone say, oh, it does something functional. Well, what?

I know. Well, it's, they're going to reveal, there's going to be like a big reveal maybe at the Lincoln Memorial with the pool. Okay. So listen, Scott Bessent. All right. Drop in the chat right now. Who, who's like, who's your more of the two? I have no grammar today of Bessent. And Stephen Miller, you know, who's the more— what's the word I'm looking for?

Who's more extra?

Extra righteous. Righteous.

Yeah, that little, that little rizz that they have.

The rizz. Who has the rizz? Like little punch monkey. Okay, so here's Scott Adams talking. Oh, equal boss Miller Scott Adams, your man. Bessette Miller, neither. Oh, EJ, it's you. Um, okay, so I just love this guy. Here he is on stage talking to the New York Times. Just the rizz. The rizz is the word.

The question is, how should— is this—

is like a new—

is this a new normal? That, Andrew, there's no new normal. And, you know, I, I can tell you that, you know, I, I actually don't read the New York Times anymore. That sometimes I do watch CNBC, but occasionally people send me articles and there's just this fever swamp. And you're now a pop historian with 1929. And in 20, 30, 40, 50 years, the New York Times is no longer the paper of record.

I'm—

You can't go— I read this article, like President Trump is slowing down. Trump's mental capacity. It is 100% fake that, like, he only called me twice at 2 in the morning last week instead of 3 times.

You're saying he called you—

I believe that he called you at 2 or 3 in the morning.

Like, that whole narrative— you had what was the greatest, one of the greatest scandals of all time, that the coverage of the Biden administration, Joe Biden's diminished capacity,— and the cover-up. And that's why it's probably fair to raise these questions. Where was the New York Times? We just had a 3-hour cabinet meeting yesterday, Andrew. For 10 months, the Biden administration did not have a cabinet meeting. How are you going to invoke the 25th Amendment if the cabinet secretaries never see the president, which they didn't? That, you know, I hear from people in the Treasury building that I see President Trump more in a day than my predecessor saw Joe Biden in half a year.

Again, another mic drop. And, and by the way, Scott Adams shows how a man can cross his legs, and Andrew, not so much. Okay, um, so Jeff, I'm gonna come to you first. I mean, I, I love nothing more than somebody that can plainly to speak to the face of another person and just say facts. Like, he's not being disrespectful. He's only speaking clearly and speaking facts. And I, I love it. What do you think about Bessant?

Yeah, every time, every time I see him, he, he's kind of the stealth bomber where it's like you— he's so, um, unassuming, but you don't realize until it's over that everything around you is a glass because he just nuked you, you know. Um, and To his point, I mean, I have a lot of disdain for most media in general because it's clear that they aren't on the side of truth. They're on the side of narrative. It's pretty obvious at this point. And I love him pointing out that, you know, look at— he didn't quite bring up the Easter Bunny Biden thing, but I thought he was about to, where it's like the Easter Bunny's having to lead him around. And it really just— I love how a New York Times journalist says, oh, well, it's because of the Biden stuff that we should question Trump. It's like, what? Wait a minute, you just tried to pull an Uno reverse there when in reality, uh, wait, you know, yeah, uh, and I, and I think if I'm not mistaken that that first cabinet meeting in like 10 months, didn't Jill Biden run that? Mostly. You remember when she was in a cabinet meeting and people were like, that's a little weird, uh, and she was basically running the entire thing and Joe Biden was just there wandering off into the distance? Like, yes, it's, it's, uh, we, we have this one chicken in the backyard that I got a discount on and her name's Regina and God bless her, she just stands there with her mouth open and I just think, oh, it's, it's Joe Biden. Like, he's like, he's just standing there looking off into the distance. I was like, I've seen that before.

Oh, bless her. Yeah.

But yeah.

Thank you for taking the risk on the chicken. I love Scott Adams. Yeah, I love him too. And you know what? I think he's another person you could put on the bench of presidential potential. I mean, the dude does not care. Like he's America first. He's all business. He's not gonna take shit from anyone. So Owen, why do you love Scott Bassett? Tell us so much. I'm just kidding.

Well, I do. I mean, I think he's got, he's obviously very smart. And is very, you know, able to just deconstruct whatever BS argument is thrown his way. And so I love listening to his responses to things. I think he's a great spokesperson for the Trump administration. Um, I think he's a bit of a, you know, whisperer type of person for that because I think he puts things in a more polite way than, than maybe Trump does and Stephen Miller does. Like, Stephen Miller is more of the you know, I'm out there fighting, I'm out there getting things done. And he, he makes a lot of great points. And nothing against Stephen Miller, I, I love him too, but you know, he's, he's more antagonistic and he's more just like— I don't know what the right word is, but aggressive maybe.

Who's more—

Stephen Miller, I think, is more aggressive in terms— just in terms of how he talks. Like, they might make similar points, but Stephen Miller will say it in a much more aggressive way. And Scott Adams will say the same stuff maybe, but, um, in a much more polished way. Or I don't know what the right words or adjectives are to use, but, um, it just seems like it's a way of translating it to people that might be more on the left because that's how they expect politicians to talk. And I think that really was one of the things that a lot of people on the left had immediate like tissue rejection of Trump was just how he talks.

Mm-hmm.

And I don't think that's relevant. I don't think that's important. I don't think we elect a president to be a role model. I think we elect a president to get done things done and, and run the country and push us in the right direction and, um, run the executive branch. And I think Trump is doing a great job with that. But I understand that a lot of people on the other side are just like, they, they just can't stand it. It's like, you know, maybe fingers on a chalkboard to them whenever they hear Trump talking, just because of the way he talks. And, um, I think Stephen Miller has some of that, just in the sense that he's kind of coming across as like your enemy if you're on the other side. Whereas Scott Bassett, I think, comes across like your smart friend that maybe you disagree with, but you know, you're both friendly with each other.

And potentially, allegedly, totally allegedly, may have been— Bassett may have been responsible for a black eye or two. I'm just— not a black guy, black eye or two. I'm just saying. So I love him anytime I see him. And by the way, can I just point out the thing that I think we all know but not everybody knows? Did you guys all know that he's gay? Not that it matters, but I'm just saying, like, He's gay. We all fricking love him. I'm like, run him as president. Where's our isms, right? I mean, he is so alpha, so masculine. I fricking love that man. Okay, so, and if you didn't know, right? See, you're shocked. Okay, so I want to move on. I'm always going to pick out a clip like that though. If I see Stephen Miller or Bassett or anybody, I just love I love people that just speak the truth directly to somebody's face 'cause there's no fear when you're telling the truth. Okay, so I was debating running some clips of JD Vance's media tour. Now this is gonna be unpopular. I didn't think it was great. Okay, that's just me. Everyone's like, "Oh, he housed this one, he smashed this," and you know, I watched the clips and I'm like, "Mm, did he?" But the one clip I do wanna play is him, a short clip, no, it's not that short, but a clip of him with Megyn Kelly. And the reason I wanna play it is I'll tell you on the other side, but let's just take a listen here.

Right now we have a very good deal for the American people, and importantly, we have a constituency right now that is saying that we're gonna send boots on the ground. They want Donald Trump to send hundreds of thousands of ground troops into Iran The best thing—

Those are Republicans.

But we need people to be pushing back from inside the tent.

Okay.

The frustration—

So let me just push back. No, no, no, I understand your point. And then we're told, and I quote, "Those who speak ill of Mark Levin are not MAGA." Well, the president, as he does, is pushing back at a criticism of yours that he thought was unfair.

Not just me. I mean, a lot of non-interventionalists.

But I talked to him last night and I said, "Mr. President, I'm gonna go on Megyn Kelly's show and I'm gonna defend the administration's policies." He said, "Absolutely, I love that." because again—

Good.

Tell him he should do it next.

He engages and he's going to criticize you when he agrees or disagrees with you.

I don't mind his criticism.

He's going to say nice things about you when he agrees with you. But that's what I actually love about the president is he's not— he's not like viewing these debates from the outside. He's participating in them himself. And again, Megan, the frustration that I've had with, you know, the non-interventionist side has been that the attitude seems to be We disagree with the president on this policy. Look, we can have that debate, but fine, OK? You disagree with the president on this particular policy. That doesn't mean you can give up on the entire enterprise.

Yeah, no, I agree with that.

And the reason, Megan, the reason why neocons are so much more effective in politics than the people on the other side in our coalition is because they play the game. They get disappointed, they make their criticisms, and they go back and they live to fight another day. Right now, right now, we need everybody who recognizes that this is a good deal for the American people and that we don't want, like John Podolitz is saying, hundreds of thousands of ground troops in Iran.

Make your voice heard.

This is where you've got to participate in the process. Disagree when you disagree, agree when you agree. But I don't like this idea of the president did something I like— didn't like, so I'm out. Yeah, I think it's a very immature way to approach the political process.

I agree with you.

And it's the way to ensure that your enemies always win.

Okay, so I like that clip because that's what I, you know, sometimes when I disagree with things Trump is doing here, you know, the chat gets upset or, you know, you don't like, it's not that, it's like, you know, I don't like everything all the time. Just like, you know, when your spouse starts chewing or breathing a weird way and you're like, ugh, I hate the way you chew, but like you still love the person, you know, it doesn't make you hate them. So, I just like that. So again, I agree with his messaging there about, you know, maybe you don't like everything, but, you know, stick together if you can. What do you think, Owen, about what you just heard?

I mean, I think— I still think Vance is very articulate. I think he's very good at expressing positions and again, maybe being a bit of a Trump whisperer in some ways. But I think certainly in the clip you mentioned, I don't know that I necessarily thought he was blowing somebody away or you know, having this great time. I think he may have done a little bit better on The View with some of the stuff, pushing back on some of those things. But, um, you know, I, I think, uh, I, I, I still am very positive on Vance. I don't think he necessarily has the persuasion and charisma that Trump had or has, um, in terms of just the techniques. But, um, you know, I still think he's a very smart man, and I think he'd be a great president.

Yeah, I see, right now I just see him more as a vice president type of person. I don't know what it is, but I really like him. I like him. I just, I'm not there yet, but I think there's so many really good potential people. So I wouldn't mind seeing who's got what, but Jeff, your thoughts?

Yeah, so when I hear Vance speak and when I look at that clip that you shared, I think about he's very calm. He's calm in almost every situation. He doesn't really get fired up all that often. And sometimes that can be a pretty big asset when if you've got Trump that's kind of, he's a fiery guy. And he's able to do things that, you know, he's a one of one, right? I think Vance complements Trump in that way where he can go on some of this, especially adversarial media like The View, and talk to people that, you know, would not be receptive at all to what Trump says. I wonder sometimes about Vance going on on shows like The View and similar things. And I thought about the other day and I was like, well, to many on the left, they, they live in information bubbles. And so the only time— because it would be easy for the Trump administration just to shut out all adversarial media, but it's important to pierce that bubble so that people get exposed to some, to some version of the other side, because if not, they just won't. And it's very easy for them to avoid it. And so I like, I like Vance quite a bit. I'm impressed with them nearly every, every time I see him, just because of his steadiness. Um, but like you said, you know, we've got Rubio and some other options that, that are really fantastic on, on the table. The, the larger picture is somebody's got to carry it after Trump, uh, assuming there's not a Trump 2028.

That's right. Um, I feel like, um, You know, I remember Scott was talking about, you know, should I, should I reach out to Vance and give him some coaching? And, you know, about— I, I wish that could have ever happened because I feel like JD allows people to interrupt him. Um, he doesn't cut in ever, like, you know, he's being respectful. But I mean, oh my God, you guys. All right, so listen, here's, here's why I'm I'm probably never gonna play a clip from The View. I was telling Jeff before. So I used to listen to Dave Rubin every day. I just don't have the time now, but I do when I can. And it seemed to like, after, you know, Scott was done, I would turn on Dave and like start from the beginning. And I would like jump in the shower and all of a sudden a clip from The View would come on. And I'm like in the shower screaming like, no Dave, I can't take listening to these women.

So—

So I don't wanna do that to you guys. I'm just looking out for your own well-being. It's like mind-numbing to listen to them and they're so racist and stupid. And in my opinion, they were so disrespectful to the vice president yesterday. It was JD Vance in the middle and then they brought out like every co-host they could find. There was like 25 of them around the table and you know, They try, they try their best to be respectful, I'll give them that, but it's like they just, they don't want to hear him. They just want to get their little dings in for the clicks. So I can't do it to you guys because they're, they're not genuinely interested in hearing what he has to say. They, they just want to change people's minds who might like him to not like him. So I can't do it to you guys. Um, Dave Rubin's hilarious. And a lot of times I would listen to him, like I'd be in the grocery store with my little EarPods in, and I'd be laughing so hard at his commentary. But anyway, so I don't know. I didn't love his tour, but here is something I told you, Greg Gutfeld is like my, he's like the blood that runs through my veins. Like when he gets on one, like on a heater, I'm like, yes. I'm reading your comments. So anyway, JD, Vice President Vance went on The Five yesterday. He was also on Gutfeld. He was making his rounds, but it's not about him in this clip. This is about Greg just always having enough with Jessica Tarlov. And the thing that I just wanna say about Jessica is, you know, when you guys, the left, the Democrats, the talking heads stay so freaking hard on your agenda. It's not helping the country. And I just wish that Jessica could for once be like, you know what, you're right, and I am going to shut up for the greater good. But here's Greg, and just pump him through my veins. Let's go. Another reason, Jessica, you need the big beautiful ballroom—

it's a drone port, so you can then launch drones to counter any sort of attack.

I hear Jessica's actually a big fan of the ballroom.

I heard too.

Was I improperly briefed, Jessica?

You were, and it's the taxpayer-funded ballroom, just to mention that, about half of it. Listen, this has been a problem for a long time and just growing exponentially. So Obama got 3 times the number of threats and 11 credible assassination plots. Then it went up under Trump. I think Biden, you know, had some but not as much, and then Trump again. So obviously we have a real, problem with this. And I think also the, the amount of conspiracy theorists and conspiracy theories that are flying around on the left and the right when things like this do happen, like Butler, for instance, or even what we saw at the White House Correspondents' Dinner where people thought that that was staged, is such an unhealthy place for us to be as a country. I think part of that is, you know, more transparency and making sure that people know what's actually going on, and then also people in positions of power doing the right thing and coming out. Like, I I appreciate that you said this actually wasn't that far along, right? Like we were safe and the event was safe because I think that people do want to, you know, mix it up, stir it up. They want that algorithm to be juiced in, you know, whatever partisan direction you're in and for it to turn into President Trump almost died or, you know, Obama almost died, et cetera. So.

Greg.

I don't know.

I mean, when I hear you talk about Obama's threats and I know that's been debunked, What? Hundreds and hundreds of threats. We're talking about—

11 credible threats.

Yeah, we can go through that in the break and you'll find out that a lot of these threats were just like emails and phone calls. We're talking about people that tried to kill leaders. There's been nothing like this in the history of this country. You know what? It's so important, the tell for this is whenever you're talking to a liberal, they galvanize that evidence. They are so intent on trying to tell you it's both sides. That tells you that it's not. We know that it's just one way. Dana points out the language used, capitalist elites, billionaires, AIPAC Jews, right? I didn't know Platner and Hasan Piker had time to plan this because that's the same language they use. The motive, the rhetoric is directly related to the inflammatory rhetoric of the mainstream left, which has become so mundane because you're supporting some asshole with a Nazi tattoo on his chest. This is why liberal outrage has no credibility. I can say bad things about Joy Behar, but no right-wing group is gonna go burn down her house. A wrestler can call Michelle a man. I doubt a right-wing group is going to her house in Hawaii. But you do a repetition of demonization about Nazis and fascists and white supremacists. Is it no surprise that Charlie Kirk gets killed? Is it no surprise that Trump gets shot at? Is it no surprise there are these large terror plans that end up being thwarted? We're lucky they got thwarted. By the way, to your answer, the reason why they're always young is because young zealots do the work that old socialists won't. The old socialists will make money writing books about their ideology, but they won't leave the house unless, you know, Bette Midler's playing. These guys buy into their rhetoric and then they go out and they act out. And then you have the old socialists going, well, These people are stupid.

Weird, I don't think—

You can look it up, look up Obama, go—

I'm happy to look it up.

Go look at you, go home.

This break is gonna be amazing on the Google machine. I'm just saying, there are Melissa Hortman who was killed, the pipe bomber, Cesar Sayegh.

This is my point.

What do you mean the people shooting up Walmart?

You.

The kind of rhetoric, listen to the rhetoric.

Do it side by side, it's one way.

Listen, Nazis, communists, that sounds like Donald Trump talking about leftists, calling people vermin, scum, like, what, that we're traitors?

You're comparing that to a repetitive rhetoric that's been going on for 10 years where people are called Nazis and deserve to die. That's what conservatives hear every single day. Save it. Well, I hear terrible things on the show every day, but that's just for me.

All right, we gotta go. Coming up next, JD. I mean, Greg, yes, pump it through my veins because it's so true. And that, you know, "Well, we had did-a-da this," and no. So I think that Jessica makes herself look stupid, and she's not stupid. She makes herself look stupid by not just saying, "You know what? You're right." You know, no one ever puts themselves in the shoes of the other person. So, you know, Jessica's never lived with people calling her a Nazi and a, you know, white supremacist, and that they're racist and this and that. And it's like, Scott said, said, hunted, you know. So hunted, we have been hunted. I mean, I've had a target on my back because I voted for President Trump. Why? Um, I don't know. So Owen, I'm going to come to you first on this, but I, I can't stand that they can never just shut up and recognize and change. Like I said, I— if you can change your mind, change your opinion, or just adjust course a little bit because you see the truth, that's the superpower, but not being able to recognize something so simple like what he's saying is some kind of disorder.

Yeah, I mean, well, certainly I think the assassination attempts on Trump are, I think, unprecedented, and I don't think comparable to any prior president. I know every president gets death threats, and, you know, there may be even a few plots to try and assassinate them, but I don't think it's anything close to what happened to Trump. Where they came literally in within an inch of doing it. And, um, you know, they had the guy at the White House Correspondents Center, and I mean, it just— the guy at the golf course, like, really close calls. And, um, you know, you can, you can say these are— those are Secret Service failures or whatever, but it's just, I think the real root cause is that the left is being driven crazy, and there's people that are being pushed over the edge to the point where they are trying to actually take these actions. much more than in the past. And it is tied into the rhetoric. It is tied into what the media has been saying for 10 years about how Trump's a Nazi, Trump's a fascist, Trump's a dictator, Trump's going to be here forever, he's breaking the law, he's in the Epstein files, all these things, many of which are just blatant lies. And they've been painting him as this satanic figure for so long that some people are going to get pushed over the edge by that. And, and I think I think the left should be accountable for that. I don't think they'll ever accept accountability for it, but I think they should be held accountable for it because they have been doing it.

Yeah, and the same thing, like I always say, whoever the next Republican president will be, it's gonna be the same thing. This isn't exclusive to Trump. It's going to be the same thing. Jeff, go ahead, take it away.

Yeah, so when I think about the assassination attempts against Trump, There's actually a really good article by Timothy Ferriss. This is many years old and he just talks about the raw numbers of fame, right? So if you have an audience the size of a small city, think about how many people in that small city are off their meds or whatever it is. Think about Trump's audience, if you will. Trump might be the most famous person in history. It's not an exaggeration to say that. And so if you have, you know, like millions and billions of people who know of Trump, even if the media coverage was 100% positive, there would still be a group of people that would plot to do him harm just because of numbers alone. Numbers and mental illness, you might call it. Yeah. But you add on the layer of media constantly demonizing everyone on the right and Trump specifically, that number grows and grows and grows. You know, look, look at the White House Correspondents' Dinner shooter. His manifesto read more like a Blue Sky post, and in some ways it was even more tame than a Blue Sky post.

Mm-hmm.

And so it— I hear no one talking about just the, just the fact that it It's, it's numbers plus propaganda. And so it doesn't matter who you are, someone's going— if you're, if you're famous enough, someone's going to get fixated on you. But this, this layer of media that we've had over the last 10 years constantly pushing people towards what I believe is a very real psychotic break. Like, there are people on the left that are in psychosis, like in deep psychosis, who have a fundamental break with reality, uh, due in large part to just a surround sound cacophony of, um, you know, shows like The View and all these other shows that just reinforce their own sort of maladjusted sort of thoughts. And of course you're seeing the results of that. Like, the system is designed perfectly to get the results that we're seeing. And so, yeah, and I mean— Yeah. I have pretty radical views about this stuff, and so, you know, I wouldn't be hurt at all if Trump just stormed into the major networks and was like, "All right, I'm shutting you down. You know, we're just not gonna do any news for a little bit." You know, I think something drastic in terms of reform has to happen, and I think if we don't see that with the White House Correspondents' Dinner, where a lot of those people in media were in danger, I don't know if we're ever gonna see it.

Yeah, I agree. And I don't know how it changes or gets fixed. I don't see, I mean, I'm not smart enough to see the way out of how that happens, but I don't know. EJ, he can't turn off the news, bless your soul. And that's the problem too, is like, I mean, oh my God, what's his name? That idiot, um, Jim Acosta. You know, he's like Don Lemon-ish himself. But did— I mean, like, this is just how stupid they are. So they had to take President Trump's name off the Kennedy Center because it wasn't put up there through the right process, whatever. And so Jim Acosta is out there live streaming a video of the outside of the Kennedy Center waiting for the, the Trump name to get removed. For like 24 hours he's out there in 100-degree heat, uh, and he says like he compares it to the, the ripping down of the Berlin Wall, taking Trump's name off a building. I'm like, you're mental. Like, you, you're so mental because all the normies in this world are like, what the hell is wrong with these people? Um, so I don't know how you fix it, but as long as the media is overrun with people like this, I, I don't know how you how you change the narrative.

And the layer on top of that, to change it, just for your average person, right, to reject the media's programming, they have to admit that not only are they wrong currently, but they've been wrong. And think about how difficult that is from a human behavior perspective. It is a painful thing, as Scott Adams has told us many times. It's a painful thing for us to admit that we are wrong about something and that we've been wrong. And so there has to be some sort of mechanism for for them to, uh, either create some sort of on-ramp or make that process as, as gentle as it reasonably could be, where new information comes like, oh well, you probably didn't realize. And it's, it's just tough because there's no sort of base level of agreement with a lot of the folks on the left, uh, where we can start from. It's all disagreement. It's like Russian nesting, uh, disagreements all the way down. And it's really hard to find some sort of core point of agreement to move forward with.

Mm-hmm. Owen, any last thoughts on this?

Well, just that I think it is something that keeps escalating and it keeps getting more and more extreme. And I think that's kind of what you were saying with it's gonna go on to the next Republican president or the next Republican that gets in office whenever that is. And, you know, I think that's part of the danger here is that it seems like they're always trying to top themselves. They're always trying to push people to take these violent actions. And by having it happen, it becomes more normalized. It becomes more like, okay, we're expecting to see this again. And I don't think we should. I think we should try and push back on it as much as we can, but make sure that it's not normalized and that it isn't something that is encouraged in the media. And again, I think the best we can do is just call out the media and mock them and, you know, make it very clear that, that they're playing a big role in this. Yeah. And just never let them stop hearing that because I think that eventually it might start getting through at least to some people. And I do think we have made some progress. I think that might be behind why CBS had a change in management. I think that's why some of the other media companies have changed ownership to more Republican or conservative ownership. And so I think there is a shift in the leadership. I think there's even been some shift with Bezos and the Washington Post. I'm not going to give them much credit because I don't think it's— Yeah. Complete, but they did lay off a bunch of people and get rid of a bunch of people. And, you know, there— so I think there, to be, you know, to be fair, there has been some progress, I think, in the right direction. But I think we have a long way to go.

I agree. Um, okay, the other thing I just wanted to mention, so yesterday or the day before, I don't even know what day it is today, to be honest with you, but I was talking about, um, you know, what like the Islamic Muslim culture was doing with children. Yesterday the report came out, what's it called? I don't wanna say the word, the word, R.A.P.E. gang, okay?

Mm-hmm.

You guys, like I told you, I couldn't even begin to tell you what I already knew about it because I can't even verbalize. I just can't even verbalize, so I chose I chose to repost the article on Substack from friend of the show, American Debunk. So he went through the report and it is on my X profile. So please find it wherever you want. Again, it's the R.A.P.E. Gang Report. Keir Starmer should be—

Anyway.

Just read it. You can— and, and American Debunk, if you read his like on a device, like on a phone, it's like nice and narrow and you can just like kind of easily skim through it. You don't have to get bogged down in it, but take a look at it. I, I know Montreal Galaxy, you want me to spend more time on it. I don't think I can. I just don't think I can, okay? And I don't think it's appropriate for this show, but I would really love it as like— think of it as a homework assignment, an extra credit assignment, please find it and read it. Um, and if you guys want to repost it, repost it and tag your friends in it because we need to know this. This is also here in this country, okay? So read the report, but just know that this is happening here. Um, it's, um, it's so freaking—

Horrors beyond your comprehension. Think of the darkest thought anyone's ever had and multiply it by a thousand, and maybe you're You're halfway there.

I almost can't even speak. Like, I'm losing my words. It's unbelievable. Get to know it. Okay, so you guys, Jeff, thank you so, so much for coming on with us today. Like, so appreciate it. Owen, so good to see your image. Love you so much.

Love to be here.

And Owen, will you be here tomorrow?

Yeah.

Yes, me too. Marcela's off tomorrow. Okay, so you guys, Thank you so much. I will play another song from Akira after we do our closing sip. So tonight we'll be back on Locals only at 8:00 PM Eastern time. I will be with Jim Wyman, who is a friend of our Be Love group. And you're gonna get to know Jim and what he went through on January 6th at the Capitol and put in jail. We're gonna talk about it. And if anyone else wants to join in on that, please come in and chat chat with us. So that'll be on Scott's Locals, uh, scottadams.locals.com. Looking forward to seeing you guys there. And as always, we thank Scott and Shelley for allowing the show to continue. Uh, we wouldn't have a show if you guys didn't show up and you weren't so freaking amazing, all of you. Even, even you guys on YouTube, wink wink, love you guys. Um, all right, so listen, thank you to Scott and Shelley, thank you to all of you. Let's be useful. And as always, a closing sip to Scott.

To Scott.

To Scott. Still good. Okay, we're gonna do Almost Anything Could Happen. So you guys, if you don't want to stick around, I'm just gonna play the song as the credits roll. Okay, see you guys later.

Come on in. Let's see what happens today. Can't even imagine. Almost anything could happen today. Oh, oh, this one's good.

Akira.

Okay, you're lucky. This one could change your whole life. By the way, if you're not familiar with the reframe concept, concept. I'm a trained hypnotist, so when I write a reframe, I'm doing it from a position of some skill. The beauty of a reframe is that you don't have to keep a diary or go to a therapy or talk it through, do exercises. You don't have to eat different. You literally just have to hear it.

Hear it.

Once.

So my claim is that a reframe will change your life. If it's the one you needed. If it's one you didn't need, you wouldn't remember it. But if it's one that you're like, "Oh, that's the one I needed," it will change your whole life. It will rewire your brain, and it will do it instantly and with no effort on your part whatsoever. That's my claim. All right, so have I built that up?

All right, you guys, grab your Reframe books today. Pick one out, read it. It might just be the one you needed to hear. All right, see you guys tonight. Thanks, Jeff. Love you. And have a great day, everybody. Say your byes. I don't want to hang up on you while you're mid-bye. It's the worst. It's like getting thrown out of a bar. Bye, everyone.

See ya.

Annie!

Thanks, EJ. Bye, guys!