The Scott Adams School - 07/15/26 The Home Team & Joel Pollack stops by.

stream early? I think I did.

I think you did.

Okay, phew. Good morning.

Good morning, everyone.

Oh, Owen's so chipper.

Oh, good morning.

I like you when you're chipper, Owen. Like, you're like all excitable.

I see Kevin and Beverly and Gracie.

Excitable.

I need one of those mirrors like Romper Room so we can actually do Romper Room. Like, I see Mar. I see Crusher.

That's so big.

Good morning, you guys. Good morning, YouTube, Spotify, Rumble, Locals, and X. Rumble, come on in. There's Rumble. Rumble just kicked in. Here we go. Oh, see, now I can hear everybody. Hello, Mike. All right, you guys, welcome in. Here we are, the home team together again. Um, so listen, Joel Pollack, I think will be stopping by. He wants to update us about the Scott Adams biography. Cannot wait. Did you guys see the post? Joel and Joshua working on the book together. Very exciting. So here's my warning. Stella is very chatty this morning, so we'll see how that goes. But anywho, all right, you guys, let's do it. It's time for the Sip.

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There will be cursing, I guarantee it. No, I'm just kidding. So Owen, he was talking to you because Owen has already confessed to us that sometimes he would skip the sip because he knew Scott was trying to hypnotize him and he wasn't going to let it happen, right, Owen?

Early on, yeah, I was a resister, but I broke down. I'm a convert.

Resistant sipper. I went for it. Um, all right, you guys, so welcome in. It is July 15, 2026. My name is Erica. I am joined with, um, my two amazing co-hosts, Marcella and Owen. And you are at the Scott Adams School, which is different than this Real Coffee with Scott Adams, obviously. And all of Scott's amazing YouTube videos live on YouTube, and there's more on locals.com, which is a subscriber base Um, but you guys, I was watching one of Scott Adams' shows. I often do in the morning, and, uh, I'll get you the date. I'll look in a minute. But it was so good. We had cursing because somebody dared bring up, you know, vaccine injuries. I was like, ooh, who is that? We had him talking about hoaxes, about, you know, like, I feel like he hit every topic so far in this one. And I was like, oh my God, this is like— we had drones, we, we had it all. So So it was a fun show to listen to. And so I recommend you guys definitely go back through YouTube, just scroll through the years and just randomly pick on one and just enjoy it because I do almost every day. All right. So that being said, all right, you guys, I have a couple of clips for you before Joel gets here, whenever he gets here. But the first one, I just— it ties into all of this talk we've been having about the trades. And how, how much they're needed. And I am getting feedback from people that they're going to go into them themselves and they're going to encourage their kids to do the same. But here is one of the most financial savvy men on the planet, Jamie Dimon. And let's take a listen to what he's talking about today.

We're sitting in the Philadelphia Navy Yard where we build ships. They build ships here. That won the Revolutionary War, that helped win World War II. And so now you have this— the arsenal of— the arsenal of democracy has been reignited. And shipbuilding, people said it couldn't happen. But here you have Hanwha Shipbuilding at the Philadelphia Navy Yard, which is going to be building components for nuclear submarines and major ships. So we're just— we're just aiding here by doing some financing, you know, special kind of financing for Hanwha here. But very importantly, and this people have to remember, this is like one big complex ecosystem. We're also financing, you know, people. We need 300,000 electricians, welders, etc., to build ships in the next 5 or 10 years. So we're helping finance people who train people who will train people here. There's 16,000 workers here. That number may very well double over the next 5 years as it builds more ships. And we build a lot of shipbuilding back to the United States. There's also a whole ecosystem here. I'm going to meet with Rose Industry later, you know, there are probably 100 vendors who help supply all the things that take place here. So we're doing our part to help, uh, you know, protect, uh, the future of freedom and the future of America.

I love that. I love too that they're gonna help finance people who will, you know, like, like pay for the training of these people. That's how desperate we are. What do you think about that, Owen? I think it's a great idea.

Well, I, I mean, I appreciate the role that he's playing in it. I, I'm a little conflicted about the whole let's get into shipbuilding again thing. I, I, I do think we probably never should have stopped. And I do think we should be the best, you know, shipbuilders and on the planet, just cuz we've always been the strongest Navy for however long I've been alive at least. And so I'm glad we're moving in that direction overall, but I just, I kind of wonder like, what is the future? Because with all the drones and all this stuff, like it just seems like a big ship is gonna be just a big target and, you know, you can't get out of the way quickly. So like if you've got all these missiles and drones and things coming at you, how's that really gonna work? And I, you know, Maybe they've got stuff worked out with all the lasers and other things that they're putting on ships to try and protect them. But it just seems like a vulnerable spot when you can't move very easily in the water. But, you know, I'm glad the opportunity is there. It certainly seems like when you're backing things that the government is behind, it's a kind of a guaranteed bet. So I don't think Jamie Dimon is necessarily taking much of a risk with the financing because it's kind of like guaranteed government contracts. But, you know, hey, that's how things work in this country.

So, I mean, it helps with job creation, it helps the economy, it helps the military. Um, you're learning a trade, a skill. And I was talking with some friends, uh, last week, and, you know, one of them is good friends with an electrician, and she was saying that he's so desperate for electricians that he's actually, you know, paying for them to get trained. And then, um, you they're like working right with him after that. So it's just, you know, it's so tough with the trades, but I do feel like the tide's turning. I feel like people are talking about it more, and it's $400,000, um, that they need with the welders and all the tradesmen to do these things. So, um, I just found it interesting that he was talking about it. Marcela completely agrees, um, so that was easy for me. Um, but also, okay, so So you guys, we're going to keep following along with this, and I just love the pace that it's going on, and I love seeing you guys in here telling, telling us, you know, that your kids are doing these things, um, or that you did it yourself and, you know, you're waiting for your son to become old enough so then he can do it. Don't worry, Marcella's back, you guys. They were like, where's Marcella? Um, so Marcella, did you get to hear Jamie, and do you want to say anything about, about that?

Um, you know, I think it's great. I agree with Owen. Um, you know, it's, it's a big target, so you can get them. But, you know, I'm always a believer in technology, and we don't know what the world, uh, what tech will bring us, you know. Um, I always think of Star Trek and the cloaking device, uh, of the ships. But anyways, that's just random. But I think overall, um Being able to have people that know how to build rather than take, make something rather than take something away, it's always great. And the fact that these companies are investing in the different employees that they have, that's always great.

I love that Chamath did that maker versus taker because it's really like taken a hold and everybody's using that now. And I just think it's, it's like the perfect thing that we need to be thinking about is kind of like ask not what your country can do for you, right? Are you a maker or are you a taker? I'd like to personally feel like I'm a maker. So I don't know, like it's better to give than receive, right? Oh God. Anyway, this group, why am I even talking about this right now? Okay, sorry. I was thinking about all you freshies out there. Let me just move right along. So speaking of Chamath, I'm going to move on to him. This is interesting in two ways, but let's play this clip. So Chamath, you guys, he's part of the All In podcast. He's also like a billionaire, like, what would we call him? Venture capitalist, startup guy, tech guy. Great friends with, um, David Sachs, who is working with the Trump administration. So let's listen to what— this kind of bothers me, but let's take a listen. I love it and I hate it. Let's go.

The reality is that most of us were lied to by the media about President Trump. And if you just go back to the source material, you should take away two things. One, he didn't say half the things he said. And two, Why did these other people just fabricate what they wanted to say so that they could essentially assassinate his character? I think that that second thing is completely unacceptable in America, and there's still been no repercussions, really. I took the time to learn about it. I admitted where— you know, the way that I met him was I admitted on the pod, which, you know, has millions of viewers, and I said, "I got it totally wrong." Because I went and I watched Charlottesville. And, you know, the first person to call me was President Trump. And I got to know him and I put the phone down. I called my wife and I said, we got it totally, totally wrong. We were lied to. And then I got to know him and he is fantastic.

I love that he is fantastic. I love that. Like, I love what he's saying, but I Oh my God, did I just sound like a Valley girl? I love what he's saying. But the thing is, is like, how are you so brilliant and you don't know that that was all BS and you didn't do any like fact checking or listening for yourself? And you know, like Cernovich had a post about this. Well, first of all, Cernovich thinks that he, Chamath, might be wanting to run for governor of California. But then he's also like, oh, you know, then these guys like turn around and now suddenly, you know, they're Trump bros. These are my words. You know, now they're going to move to Texas and still complain about all the same stuff. And, you know, so they're, you know, it's kind of like, it's not that it's too little too late because it's always a great time to change your mind when you find out the new facts. But I don't know, I don't know what my take is. I don't know what my thing is with this. I generally love it. Um, Marcela, I'm gonna come to you first. I mean, just believing the news for so long and the hoaxes and And I think what it is for me is that I feel like if you believed all those hoaxes and you believed the news, then you literally had to believe that anybody who was supporting our president or voted for him were the scum of the earth, which is like what a lot of them had said. Not Chamath. But I don't know, why am I so annoyed with this?

No, you know, I think Chamath, not knowing him personally, you know, I think he's being genuine. I think he sees how things have gone. I think in the past Silicon Valley was, um, how would you say, they were sort of in their own bubble and nothing touched them because we didn't have, uh, certain governors that went in and created these, you know, the billionaire tax that they're talking about here in California. They, they didn't— they were untouchable basically. And so they were able to live this ideal dream of having the, you know, this tech and this type of politics, and yet nothing— they didn't see, they didn't see the outcome of it. But, you know, as we've gone along, we've seen the Democratic Party, just like they have, turn into a very leftist, extreme communist-driven party. So I think like As they went along and realized this, although, you know, I, I do— Cerno is correct in his criticisms of them, but I, I think they, they are— they're very intelligent people and they're seeing the writing on the wall. They're seeing that these things are going to affect them. I think the issue is it's affecting them now, right? Which is which is fair, you know, like, you know, when something doesn't affect you, maybe you're not really involved, whatever, you know. So I think they see that. I'm, I'm very positive that Chamath is on President Trump's side, very positive of that. However, you know, you never know where they're going to go. They, they seem to—

with another election, the other—

yeah, with another election, with another party. So, you know, they They're always changing, fluctuating. But I mean, I guess that's the name of the game for all of us, you know?

Well, and you know my favorite, Jason. I mean, he took off to California and it's like, you know what I mean? To, to Austin, Texas. Yeah. And it's like, you know what? Stay there and fix it. You know, like, don't keep complaining and just run away. I don't know.

I wanted to also clarify, David Friedberg was the one that talked about makers and takers. In the All In pod where Chamath is part of it, which I'm sure Chamath is in agreement with.

But yes, for sure. Good morning, Joel. Like, hello with the guns. Let's go.

You look very sexy today.

Oh, and you got to level up tomorrow. It's so good to see you.

Thank you. Thank you. I just got off a red-eye flight, so everything's kind of jumbled around in my head. But, um, I have actually a very good excuse for being late, which is I was writing a page of Scott Adams' biography and I went way over time, partly because I'm so tired. Um, but, uh, anyway, here I am and I'm dressed up as I'm about to hopefully go for a quick run. Although the oppressive heat in Washington, DC, where I just landed, is a bit of a disincentive.

But can we just unpack this for a minute, you guys? Like, I cannot— I have the hardest time getting like to a lunch date with friends and I have all day to do it. Joel's like, I just got off a red-eye, I was writing a page of his book, I know you're, you're doing your prayers and what you're thankful for. Now he's gonna go in the oppressive heat and work out. And I'm like, lucky that I put lipstick on today. Like, that's so crazy. Yikes, I'm exhausted.

You know, um, I'm just grateful for the energy to do any of this. I mean, yeah, I usually can sleep on planes. This time I only slept for a couple of hours. I, I sort of have a I have a formula for red eyes, which is kind of eat before you get to the airport, or you bring— I actually usually bring sushi to the airport, eat at the airport. Then I have some— one, I know Scott Adams was very anti-alcohol, but I basically have one serving of some alcoholic beverage, and then I fall asleep on the flight and wake up on the other coast, and I'm okay. Um, this time it just didn't work, and I don't exactly know why, but I woke up in the middle of the night, and then I just started working, so I haven't had as much sleep as I normally get on red eyes. And you don't get that much on red eyes, but at least usually I sleep the whole flight. And this time I didn't. And I never take any sleeping pills or anything like that. I'm very— I'm generally very wary of pills for anything. So not because I don't like swallowing pills. I'm just kind of like, why? Why put extra stuff in your body? You know, most, most things you need a remedy for, you can, you can find.

Joel's so tired, he's explaining his pill popping. Why? Joel, you're a brave man eating eating raw fish and then getting on a plane. That would be the last thing I would pick. Like, that and a salad, those are two things I would not eat before getting on a flight.

You know, I've never really had a problem, uh, as far as that goes. I mean, I, I, um, my wife's stomach is a lot, um, more sensitive than mine. I, I like to joke that I basically have intestines of steel. Like, I can basically I can eat or drink almost anything and nothing happens to me.

Oh my God, you're so lucky. I'd be like, "Oh, no." Oh, all right. Well, that was TMI. So anyway, Joel, I was telling everybody, I love the picture of you and Joshua working on the book, on the Scott Adams biography. And I'm so glad you could come on and update us with that and whatever you want to tell us. We want to hear it all.

Right, so, um, last Monday I got together with Josh. I finished the second draft about a week before that, and he spent a week going over it, and he gave me 357 notes and then another, I don't know, 90-something corrections. So there was about 450-some-odd, you know, things to deal with. Um, and we sat there and we kind of went over the book, and he suggested a couple of things I needed to add into the book. The book right now, or the draft, is about 100,000 words. Um, 100,000 words, I mean, it's probably about 400 pages. It's a little long, so I need to trim it while also adding material, so that's going to be challenging. Um, I've interviewed over 30 people already for the book, so I've got to integrate that now. And I'm still interviewing people, I'm still asking people for interviews, and I'm going to add some structure into the book that I think will make it, uh, even more interesting. And I have to tell you, I've discovered things even in the last week or so of sitting with, with Josh and just talking about Scott Adams that I didn't know. And so I think it's going to blow people's minds, actually. I think I've spent a week sort of with my, with my head having exploded and sort of trying to put it back together again. But Josh, yeah, Josh and I basically, we, you know, he's from Cincinnati or Cincinnati area, so I flew to Cincinnati. We rented a hotel room for the day, a nice room near the airport with a desk and a couch and just sat there and we worked. And I still had my regular work to do for my regular job. So I did that also and then got back on a flight and came back. And it wasn't so simple because I had to— in both ends, both going to Cincinnati and coming from Cincinnati. I had flights that had stops in Nashville, so, you know, connecting through Nashville. Um, luckily the weather was, was okay. I didn't have any major delays. Um, but yeah, there was like this trek to Cincinnati. It was— it took a lot of energy to do. And yeah, you have that picture of, of, of us working there. And what can I say? I mean, let me, let me say this about Josh. Scott Adams reached out to Josh Adams when Scott Adams got canceled to publish Reframe Your Brain and to republish the works that he had the rights to that had been dropped by his publisher. And Scott Adams was introduced to Josh Adams and was told that Josh Adams is the best editor out there. And that's how they interacted. And, um, I'm suddenly getting messages from everybody. Sorry, I just got distracted. Um, and, um, you know, it was, um, it was something I realized just in the, in the day of working with Josh so intensely, um, just how good he really is. I mean, he's, he's incredible. And going through the, the notes and the edits that he, that he made on the second draft, they're just, they're just mind-blowing, some of them. They're so good, they're so incisive. So, um, but yeah, I mean, I've, I have found things and I've, I've, um, you know, I don't want to— yeah, I know, I want to ask, but there's, there's so many, there's so much that's so interesting. And there are some things that I found that are so funny that I wish Scott could have been here to, um, joke around with. I, there are things I almost want to tease him about that are so funny. Um, so, you know, you, you miss him every day. You especially miss him when you're doing a project like this. Um, there are things I want to ask him, there are things I want to talk to him about. Obviously I can't do that, but, um, you know, he, he had, um, some really, really incredible things in his life and, um You know, I'll give you a little hint of something. So, so in his archives, he has, um, like a couple of— hold on, I have to— sorry, I can't multitask right now. I'm a little sleep. I have to send somebody a message.

Um, okay, yeah, do that. And I— because I, I do have questions too, because, um, I feel like I know the answer to this, but I, I'm wondering, is the biography gonna have an audio version? And did Scott Adams say who he wanted to read it and why it's me? No, I'm just kidding. I'm so just kidding. Because I do, I love consuming books, you know, like through my ears. So I'm just wondering if we're going to have that option.

An audiobook. I'd love to do an audiobook. They're pretty intense in terms of labor, you know, they're kind of labor intensive. I would love to do it. I've done it with most of my other books. I've done it personally, you know, with my own voice, and it always improves the book. I mean, I sat there with a couple of the ebooks that I self-published over the years. I did this last year before the fire, so 2 years ago, and I sat there and I would read through my books and record them. I set up my wife's closet to be a recording studio.

Perfect.

And you'd find little mistakes that, you know, you hadn't caught before, or little things you wanted to say differently. So you would go into the, you know, if it's self-published, you can just change it online. Um, it would probably make the draft better. You know, it would make Scott Adams' biography better if I could read it aloud. Yeah. I mean, that's actually a great idea. It just takes so much time.

Um, yeah. But wait, Joel, before you go on, Owen, before you go, cuz he has to go. Did you wanna ask Joel anything about the book or?

Well, I would just mention, um, you know, I, I, I think I just posted a story or at least I saw one that was saying that, um, Apparently people like AI narration of books better than humans now, so you might not have to. You can just have AI do it.

So, um, I'll tell you something about AI and writing. I think AI, even though it's gotten so much better, I think AI writing is mostly garbage.

Reading. He's saying reading.

No, reading too.

I mean, I just— yes, people are used to the voice. I actually was walking around my neighborhood here and there's a guy listening to a podcast and clearly the, the, or listening to some audio, clearly it was AI audio, like an AI audiobook. I get that. I get that. Um, I just think that books are a particular experience that if you can, you want to have the author's voice. I mean, it's not necessary. I've done books where someone else— I think I did one audiobook. One of my books was an audiobook that somebody else read in their own voice, a human being. Um, But I think you've kind of got to do it yourself. I mean, you're telling a story and I don't know. Yeah. I mean, maybe there'd be an AI option. I have no idea. I just think, I think, you know, if you can tell the story, it's just so much better.

And you wrote it. So you know what you're doing.

I definitely like it when authors do that. I mean, I like it when the author reads the book, but I understand it's a lot of work too.

And it's very—

Yeah.

Time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So let me,— with my tired brain here, let me just tell you what I was going to say before I got distracted. Sorry, I got called to do an interview, and so now I don't know where that person is. But Scott Adams has this archive, and he has incredible material there from his early life. I mean, he probably threw a lot away, but he kept the essence of a lot of things. And one of the most interesting things he has is a set of metal boxes that has index cards in them where he wrote down every idea he had for jokes. There must be thousands of jokes in, in these index card holders, um, and some of them are so funny And I don't know if he used some of them, but it's just incredible to flip through them. I mean, there's no way you can absorb all that material, you know. I mean, it's— but it is, it is incredible. Um, I'll just try to— I really don't want to— some of the best jokes are like stuck in my head. I kind of almost want to use them for the book, but, um, I'll give you a hint as to one of them. Uh, he wrote down on one card Um, unification theory, Elvis killed Kennedy.

Oh my God, I love him.

Like, there's so many little things like that that I think some of them were things that people told him, you know, because he started putting his email in the Dilbert comic so that when email was a new thing, so that people started contacting him and giving him ideas for the Dilbert strip. And so I think some of the things he wrote down were notes or were things that people suggested to him for Dilbert. But some things were simply just funny ideas that occurred to him. A lot of dad jokes, a lot of funny riddles. Knock knock, who's there? Anita. Anita who? Anita Punchline. You know, stuff like that. But like, it's just thousands and thousands and thousands. Oh my gosh, you look at this and you're like, how can one human being have had this many jokes? I mean, it's just, you know, and you hear about comedians doing this kind of thing, building a reservoir of material, and, and it's real. It's real. And it's handwritten, most of it. And, um, you know, so writing this biography, you have access to that kind of thing. And, um, it's just, it's just incredible. But there— but let me, let me, let me say this before I I guess wrap up. There's a mystery that the book is going to solve. There's a mystery that this biography will solve. Josh Adams has talked about it as a kind of catharsis, this whole book, for those who loved Scott Adams. And yes, you will revisit things, you'll learn more about things you knew already, you know, you'll, you'll fill in things, you know, you'll see things that refer to other things. I mean, you'll experience the book— if you loved Scott Adams and followed Scott Adams for years, you'll experience it as a great connection to him. But there's also a mystery in the book. The book tries to solve a mystery, and that mystery is the most exciting thing about the book to me. There's something about Scott that nobody understood, and the book will tell you.

Ooh, Joel, you tease. First the tank top and now this? Ugh.

Yeah.

No, it's an incredible— I mean, to find This about Scott Adams was just the most incredible thing. I mean, Josh and I— and Josh, if you're watching, don't spill the beans— Josh and I sat there. Josh, we were talking about this, and I sat there for a moment and just realized what we had just discovered. And there were no words, really, for a while. So I think there's a mystery here. That I have to bring out a little bit more in the third draft because I've only uncovered it as I've gone along. And in that sense, this has probably been the most exciting project I've ever done because you write things, you think you are sharing your ideas with people, you're telling an audience something that you know about, but to have a project where you discover something that you didn't know before and didn't even know to ask about before, is, is pretty incredible. So there's a, there's a really exciting realization that I had. I had it last week in Cincinnati while Josh and I were working, and I now understand what, what the mystery is that the book has to solve.

Oh shoot, I did not expect this turn of events. I'm very excited. I mean, I'm— can you not leave it 400, 500 pages long? You don't have to trim it, do you?

I do. I, it's, you, I mean, I, I wrote the last biography I wrote. The first biography I wrote was, was about 600 pages. Too long. I mean, the temptation when you write a biography is to put so much into it. The thing about Scott is he left such a huge archive of material. I mean, you can go, there are thousands of YouTube episodes and, you know, 30 years of Dilbert. I mean, it's, it's so, there's so much there. I can't include all that in the book. So in a way, that liberates me to sort of focus on the The most important things. Okay. Yeah, there are things people didn't know. There are things— there are things people didn't know. There are things that will make you laugh and laugh and laugh.

Um, I want to laugh.

Yeah, I'll just give you one, and this is a public one, so this is not— it's a public one you— where you probably haven't connected the dots yet, but it's based on public information, so I'm not giving you anything you didn't know already. But you remember Scott introduced an African-American character for the first time.

Dave.

Dave, right? Dave is an engineer. Dave is a Black character who identifies as white. That's the gag of the whole thing. It was his way of kind of sending up the DEI culture, the woke culture that came in after 2020.

And Scott was identifying as Black at that time.

Right? So Dave's the Black engineer who identifies as white, so he messes everything up. Um, why did he name the guy Dave?

I, I don't know. I thought it was just because it was just like a plain Jane name. No, there was a reason.

Yeah.

Does anyone remember?

If you think about it hard enough, you'll figure it out.

Dave?

Yeah.

I mean, I want to guess something, but I'm afraid to say it.

There are no wrong answers. No, there is. There are a lot of wrong answers, but there are no embarrassing answers.

All right, you say it.

No, you say it. I want to see if you can get it.

What do you think, Marcela? I'm going with his brother.

You can read the chat. White name or his brother's name.

Yeah, it's his brother.

Okay, that's what I thought.

And that's who he made things like his jokes or something. He wanted him to visualize his brother telling him and make him laugh.

Right, so Dave is Scott's brother. Ah, uh, Dave, by the way, is not short for anything. Dave Adams was born Dave Adams, not David Adams. Dave, Dave, just Dave. Just Dave. Yeah, yeah. So, so, yeah, um, Scott had a constant back and forth with his brother. And Dave— Scott used to say whenever he wanted to think of whether something was funny or not, he would think about whether his brother would laugh at it. And if his brother would laugh at it, then it was funny. So in a sense, Dave was Scott's comic muse. And in a way, the Black character is a tribute to his brother.

I love that. It's perfect.

His brother is not African American, by the way, but it's just— It's part of the gag, you know, like, this is my brother Dave. It's almost a wink to his brother.

Yeah.

You know, so the brother Dave, but as long as they're all identifying as Black, I guess it doesn't matter.

Yeah.

I don't know if you know this, Joel, but when Scott was becoming famous, there was actually a Scott Adams who was African American that worked somewhere in Pleasanton, and they actually were thinking that he was the one. That was doing the Dilbert cartoon. So that kind of implicitly goes with the whole Dave character of like maybe there could be someone—

I might have to use that. I might have to use that. Yeah. Um, there's also a Scott Adams who played college football. And initially, if you, if you Googled Scott Adams, I don't know why, but for a while it would bring up the college football player. Maybe because Scott was so canceled that they kind of had stopped linking the traffic about the cartoonist and political commentator Scott Adams, and they were linking to this football player. But, you know, this is the problem with AI. The AI slop would put it all together. So they'd be like, Scott Adams, famous cartoonist and college football star. I mean, Scott would find that hilarious.

But anyway, racist, also a racist.

Yeah, exactly. I have to go because there are 3 meetings I'm missing right now.

Yes, go, go, go. Joel, thanks for coming in. Oh my God, we're more excited than ever. And don't think I'm not calling you to find out the juicy detail.

Uh, I'm— that, that I will not tell you. I will tell you that one. Uh, no, the mystery, the mystery in the book. You have to read the book. Everybody has to read the book.

Okay, all right, we can do it, we can do it, you guys. All right, you guys, everyone, thank you.

When you find out, it's gonna make your mind and your heart explode at the same time. Oh, unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, I, I can't, I can't talk about it too much or I'll choke up.

Okay, so yeah, okay, okay, we got it. Joel, thank you so, so much. We appreciate it, and we'll see you whenever you can pop on.

All right, thank you so much.

Thanks, Joel. Take care.

Thank you. Bye-bye.

Well, look who it is, Marcella. And Then There Were Two. It's me and you again, sister. How do we keep ending up like this?

Oh boy.

Oh my goodness. So, all right, I'm very excited for the book. I mean, I was already, obviously, but now we have like a mystery, and our hearts gonna explode. Oh yeah, yeah, let me take that away from the cats.

I like that the biography is gonna be like, let's solve this mystery together.

And what could it be?

Very nice.

What could it be? All right, the cats ate their kibble.

I told you, probably us super fans probably know, but like, you know, like setting it up in, in a mysterious way. I, I think it's— it'd be fun to have a biography not only be informative but also be mysterious and suspenseful and all sorts of things.

No, so there's something for everyone. Yes, Sean, it should be out by Christmas. The plan is to get it out in the fall so people can have it for Christmas and Christmas gifts and all that good stuff. And by the way, if you guys— I think what we're going to do is just run out of these Scott Adams merch. Um, so if you want this simultaneous swaddle blanket Um, once they're gone, we're not going to restock them. So, um, love my tattoos. I don't have a tattoo. Um, so I just— that just caught my eye. I have no tattoos. Um, so yeah, so once that merch is gone, I don't know what else is left, like the beanies or a sweatshirt or a t-shirt. But if you did want to grab something, do it now, you guys, because then I think we're going to be done with that The mugs, we'll see if we're going to keep them or not. Okay, so just grab them now. Um, and the link I'll post later with the show. And if anyone has the link now and can drop it, and it's also in Scott Adams' bio on his YouTube page. Okay, so that's there. You want Beloved merch? I know, I know. Okay, so we'll see what happens. Um, all right, so anyway, Marcella, we have some time left and I wanted to— I want to give a shout out to Nick Shirley. And to Scott Adams. So I want— I have just 3 clips that are all going to go together that I want to play. So let me just make sure I have the right one at the right time. And I wanted Owen here to read something. All right, so let's just do this. You know what, I'm just going to do one clip. This is JD Vance, um, just I think yesterday. Let's just take a quick listen.

From citizens and journalists have come from people like Nick Shirley. It was a 22-year-old kid, a 22-year-old kid who had the audacity to go to the people who were receiving your tax dollars and ask questions. Something, frankly, it would have been great if the national media showed a little bit more interest in.

Thank you.

But I just want to say to all of you, for caring about this issue, for being engaged in this issue, for sending tips into our fraud task force. Thank you. Because a bit—

okay, so I do love Nick Shirley getting a shout out from the Vice President of the United States. Well deserved, because it's true. If Nick Shirley wasn't curious and fearless and going out there and exposing the fraud in every state,, we wouldn't really know about it. And so Jay Plemons reminded me that— and haven't you guys all had this thought where you're like, where are all these people? Like, how are so many people driving like nice cars? Like, the economy's so bad, you know, people can't afford stuff, but like so many people have nice cars and they have like nice homes and they're wearing nice clothes. And you're like, wait a minute, aren't we struggling along? And, um, Jay found this clip of Scott. And he's just a freaking genius. Let's just take a listen.

I keep telling you that there are too many people driving nice cars to make any sense for how many nice, good jobs there are, or even how many people have inherited it from their parents or whatever. There just seem to be way too many people who have nice houses and nice cars compared to the number of good jobs there are in the world. And I kept thinking for a year, by the way, for years I've thought this, I thought, what percentage of all the rich-looking people, rich-looking meaning you have an expensive car or nice house, what percentage of them got it from crime? And I've always assumed it was at least 20%. And now I'm going to up that. I mean, it might be as high as 50% of all rich people are criminals. And, you know, it's these white-collar corrupt NGO money laundering situations. Hmm.

Interesting. Always thinking, right? And I mean, I think the same thing all the time and not to, you know, listen, is it the Italian in me? Is it that I just don't trust anybody? I don't know. But I see people like selling merch sometimes, or I'm like, where'd you get that merch? Like, where did you get that merch? It's just too strange that you have an abundance of this stuff considering the lifestyle you live. So I think everybody's a criminal no matter what. No one's innocent until proven guilty. Marcela is like, oh my God, everyone's guilty in my eyes. But yeah, don't you think that the fraud, it's like so off the charts when you see all this fraud, right, Marcela?

You know, I, I disagree with Scott in regards to that, because not in regards to what you're saying, Erica, but in a bit with Scott because of the area he lived in. Um, my brother and sister both live in that area of Silicon Valley, and it's, it's a bubble. It's not like you go to Fresno, you go to Sacramento, you go to other areas of California, and you're not going to see nice cars all the time. So it depends on the area where you're defining it. And Silicon Valley has very nice houses, very nice cars. Every house is like $3 million or more, um, you know, at least. And if it's a nice house— and so maybe he was thinking like, how are all these people have all this money, you know? But technically it's all from tech, tech money. But, um, what I would say is that there are people that have money, and some of it is— I don't know what word I would use, but legal fraud, uh, government contracts. That is a big thing in California. A lot of— either, either a lot of people work for the government— this is outside of Silicon Valley— a lot of people work for the government or they contract, they have their own business, like, you know, cutting trees. But now we're gonna have a contract with the school district of cutting all their trees, you know. So there's always this, uh, back and forth in California with government and government providing these contracts to their friends, you know, or, you know, to whoever can do the bill, you know. So it's kind of like something that, that I'm not sure translates to the rest of the country, or— but I'm sure New Jersey's similar in a way where they're using government contracts. Um, we're very special.

Yeah, so we really go for it. I'm pulling up a clip for you real quick. Um, okay, let me just play this. Here's, here's a little more. I really wanted to have like a Nick Shirley day. There's so much information. Um, but You know, I remember when he was doing those, um, daycare, like the Leering Centers and the daycare centers, and all the cars in the parking lot were like Mercedes and Porsches. And it's like, oh, what's happening here? It was like a— anyway, let's just, let's just give Nick Shirley a little bit more attention. One second here.

Yes, the governor of California is an enemy to the people of California. He's literally working to support the fraudsters. Meanwhile, he could be working to expose the fraud. I mean, how, how stupid you have to be to say, okay, let's go after the guy who's exposing the fraud. Let's not go after the fraudsters. That is what he's doing, what he's actively doing each and every single day when he makes out these statements and all he does is blame the people who are showing the fraud. Why doesn't he say, hey, Nick, great video, how can we help?

Right.

That's what I would say was, wow, great video. How did you find this? Where did you go and where are you going next so we can find somebody to go with you? Don't you think that would be a common response?

Exactly. Because these tax dollars don't say right or left on them. They don't say Republican or Democrat. Right. Each tax dollar is a dollar for the American people. And when they go in and steal these dollars from us, they're not robbing just the liberal Democrat in California. They're robbing everyone. And then the governor gets mad at the person for exposing the fraud. How crazy.

Yeah. So then they tried— I don't know, Marcela, if it— I don't know if it passed, but then they tried to stop Nick Shirley Act in California. Oh, it passed.

So I'll explain what you have to— so it was already law. This is the third or fourth iteration of the law. So the law was already in place, and it was basically for harassment, um, for, um, someone coming to you harassing you. I have to look at the, the gist of it and get that back to you on it, but it, it can be used against a Nick Shirley type, but it's not necessarily just Nick Shirley. It's technically the idea of the law was to protect people that have certain jobs in the medical, medical industry. It's very nuanced. And whether somebody can come up to you and ask you questions and, and harass you, because some of them have been harassed. And I think I have to look further into it. It's not just like Nick Shirley Act, you know, um, it's called the Stop Nick Shirley Act, but that's not what it's actually called in the, in the government. That's what he calls it.

Okay.

Yeah, so this law has been around since the '90s, um, then in 2000 or something, then there was— there's different iterations. And so what, what, uh, Bonta's wife— I forget her first name— did is add further, uh, further indications into the law of what harassment would be. And so the, the issue was that that definition could in itself be a Nick Shirley type of, uh, person, but it's not necessarily— that's not what it's called at all.

So it's just so interesting because it seems like, well, It is like everybody in every corner of this freaking country is just taking money from people, getting their palms greased. This is my opinion, um, from our politicians to all these organizations, and it's coming at the expense of the constituents, which is us. And, um, I feel like we have no representation. And I just wanted to go to independent journalist Sarah Gonzalez. She's got balls of steel. I love her. Um, same kind of thing. When she approaches Tom Tillis, who— you know what, just watch. This is good.

Senator, you've received almost $700,000 from the illegal, illegal labor lobby. Is that why you voted against the Save America Act?

Can you tell me who the illegal labor lobby is?

Yes, it's contractors, general contractors, hospitality companies, industries, construction companies and industries.

You know about the Save—

which, which Save America Act are you talking The one that you voted against, sir.

Okay. And so you're asking me if I voted— I was against it because—

You're receiving almost $700,000 from these lobbyists.

Do you have any idea what a remarkably silly question that is?

I think it's a pretty important one. I think your constituents want to know why you're betraying them.

Do you know what my election cycle—

the total all-in election cycle cost was in $320 million in 2020. It's $300 million. Do you honestly believe that I would make a policy decision based on that?

I don't know why you're betraying your constituents. I'm independent.

Okay.

Why are you betraying your constituents? Why are you betraying your constituents, Senator?

Good luck on the clicks.

We just want secure elections, Senator. You're preventing us from getting that. You're betraying America.

Good luck on your job.

Good luck on yours. What a strange thing for Senator Tillis to say. $700,000 is not enough. He's a sellout, but not that amount because he receives $300 million. If I were an honest person and I were answering that question, I would just say I'm not a sellout to anyone. I don't sell out for any amount of money. But Tom Tillis— Tom Tillis says he sells out, but not for that amount.

I love that. I think that was so genius. He's like, good luck on your job. She's like, yeah, good luck on yours. So good. And, and the way he just talks down to her and dismisses her like, oh, who do you work for? I'm independent. And then he's like, see ya, good luck on your clicks. Like, oh really? Well, Nick Shirley's independent. Um, there's so— Nate Friedman's independent. Some of our best, uh, journalists are independent. So, um, oh man, I mean, these people have no shame. What, what's your impression on that one, Marcella?

Yeah, like, he could have just, um— I think Scott Adams would talk about what she talked about. He didn't right away said, I'm not guilty, you know. He said, oh no, not for that amount.

He's like, do you have any idea what my election— it's like, dude, are you, are you guilty or not? Like, Scott— yes, Scott would always say, if somebody said, oh, you murdered that person and you didn't, you'd be like, what? I didn't murder that person.

No, right?

Yeah.

Like, but instead you would say, I wasn't at that place. Yeah, at that time, I was— instead of negating the actual, um, question, you know. And maybe it's not because of what she's saying, the reason that he voted against the Save Act, but it's like, why did you vote against it? That's where you would have, you know, if it's something really, uh, important, why he voted against it, he would say it. But no, he doesn't have any, um, any answer to her.

So Tom, T-H-O-M, which is just annoying, um, I know Thomas, but so he's on our, our watch list now. And like Montreal Galaxy said, he first wanted to know how much she knew. So he was like, well, let me see even how much she knew. Well, she knew, she had her, her notes, and you know, and then he just got snotty with her. So Uh, Freebird says arrest him now. A moment of truth. We've got, um, yeah, so what's your evidence? Who are these contractors? Right, so it's like, you know, follow the money, you guys. Follow the money. Like, she showed how much he's getting from each sector, and then he doesn't vote for the Save America Act. And it's like, why? You know, why can't we have safe elections? That's all Scott Adams said we needed to, you know, feel secure in our country, where fair elections that can be audited to show that they were not rigged. And, um, we're not getting it. We're not getting it. And why anyone's fighting it— change the way you're wording it then. Like, make it a one-line item issue. Stop packing it with other stuff that people are trying to throw in there. No, just make it an election vote, and then let us see who in office wants us to have fair elections and who doesn't care. Like, let them just vote on that one issue so we can see who they are. Like, why can't we have that kind of transparency? And why can't every vote be a vote for one line item? I don't get it. So they make it very confusing, and that's where all this dirty money comes in. Um, I don't know, Marcela, if we're ever gonna get fair elections. Feels kind of grim.

Well, they don't— they don't want fair elections. Neither side wants fair elections.

I agree.

Only the voters want fair elections. It seems, you know, there are obviously individuals in government that do want it, but for the most part, it seems like that's not going to be allowed. You know, they're not going to allow it because they want— what was the phrase from Scott Adams for confuse? So confusopoly.

Confusopoly, like Monopoly.

Yeah. Um, so It's like in the confusion is where they are able to get further either their own laws passed or they're able to get kickbacks from certain things, you know. So the more confusing you make something, the, the harder it is to discern what is happening from the public. So one thing that you brought up is that, uh, I— that the reporter reminded you of Nick Shirley. I wish Nick Shirley would take on the Save America Act and would go down to Washington, DC and go and ask them questions because they would— oh, they would be so afraid of him. But it needs— there needs to be somebody to that degree that, that keeps hounding them.

Oh yeah, yeah, the truth. They need— they, they need to answer. They should be answering to the independent journalists more than a— there you go, confusopoly. They should be answering more to independent journalists than to corporate media or cable news, because there— the— we, we see that the people that are independent, like, they're speaking for all of us. Like, that, that's really who's speaking for us. So shame on Tom Tillis. And, um, and Thune doesn't care. I know, you guys, it's crazy. So, all right, listen, we're gonna wrap up, um, tomorrow. I I think the home team returns. We're never sure which way we're going, but Marcella and I will be here. I think Owen will be here too. Um, okay, you guys, and we're gonna do an Akira song as promised today. And Marcella, if you can stick around, do, and if not, we get it. Okay, so let's have a closing, uh, thank you to Scott Adams and to Shelley for allowing this show to continue. And we really appreciate you guys being here. It's always so great to see you guys every day, every morning. It's, um, it's nice that we're all together, really. Um, Jesse Kelly, we are rescheduling Jesse Kelly. He had an issue with Rumble, shockingly, and, um, we'll get him back on the roster. He's excited to come on. Okay guys, Jim Courtney, you're requesting the basket case theory already. You must need it. Okay, so we're gonna do it. So thank you to Scott Adams and Shelley Adams for allowing the show to go on, and, um, Let's just do all the important things today. Be useful, make good decisions and good choices, and watch a Scott YouTube video today, you guys. Go back and just pick a random one and indulge, okay? All right. So a closing sip to our Scott. To Scott.

To Scott.

Aww, Goldie. It was rough, Goldie. It was rough, but we made it through. Okay, Basket Case Theory coming in by special request from Jim Courtney in Alaska. Where is it? Hmm, I don't see it.

Dun dun dun!

I don't see it. How could it not be? Jim, this is weird. All right, so I'm going pattern recognition, pattern recognition coming in hot on W. Scott Adams School.

Pattern recognition. Once you realize that the humans are not logical machines, we're pattern recognition machines. Pattern recognition machines. It's that pattern recognition that isn't very good. Pattern recognition is what makes you a racist. Pattern recognition is what makes you an ageist, a sexist, everything bad, because your patterns are all you have. You're not really a logical person who reasons everything out. Your brain isn't big enough. You wouldn't have enough time. So instead you default to these little biases which are determined by patterns. We're pattern recognition machines. Pattern recognition machines. Your patterns are all you have. You're not really a logical person. Now the problem is many of those patterns are fake. Let's say you had met 3 Elbonians in your life and every one of them slapped you in the face with a glove. The next time you met an Elbonian, you'd be like, "Oh, no thank you. I don't want to get slapped in the face with a glove. Those last 3 Elbonians were pretty rough on me." But it's only 3 Elbonians. The odds that your pattern is predictive, probably low. Probably low. We fall victim to patterns, but you can also use patterns to convince people of things. If you are consistent, people say, "Oh, this person's always honest." So patterns are a tool, but they're also our biggest defect. They're also our biggest defect. We're pattern recognition machines. Pattern recognition machines. Your patterns are all you have. You're not really a logical person. We're pattern recognition machines. Pattern recognition machine. Your patterns are all you have. You're not really a logical person. And then of course, understanding the brain as a visualization machine is very, very important.

Very, very important.

Because visualization is the biggest, most powerful part of your brain, is the, the part— that influences you most. Understanding the brain as a visualization machine is very, very important. Very, very important. Because visualization is the biggest, most powerful part of your brain. It's the part that influences you most.

Obsessed.

I could listen to that beat all night. All right, now— oh, I'm suddenly— I'm suddenly— I'm feeling like a DJ. If I could just take over, uh, Stern's show and get that $500 million contract. Oh, you guys are the best. Thank you, Samar. You guys have a great, great rest of your day. I cannot wait to see you guys tomorrow morning, right, Marcella? You too.

Yes.

Yep. Can't wait. Look forward to it every day. All right, you guys, love you so much. Have a great, great day. Marcela, have the best day ever. Kick some attorney butt out there for us.

Watch Argentina game. Watch the Argentina versus England.

And we want Argentina, right?

Well, oh yes, there's no way that England can win. But then again, France lost yesterday, so.

All right, Marcela, so I'll root for Argentina.

Tough day for me today, you guys.

Oh gosh, for me. I'm sending prayers your way.

Thank you.

Thoughts and prayers. Okay, thoughts and prayers for Marcelo. Let's go Argentina! And we'll see you guys in the morning.

Take care.

Bye guys, love you.