The Scott Adams School - 07/21/26 Joshua Lisec Returns.

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They are. Okay, there we go. Good morning, YouTube. Rumble, X is in the house. Spotify, you are listening. Spotify, just so you know, we are so gorgeous, like full glam every day. Since you're just listening, I just want you to know what you should be picturing. Picture like Cindy Crawford and Brad Pitt. That's what you're listening to today. And here comes George Clooney. Now Joshua is joining us in 1 second. Hang on. And here he comes. I was just saying good morning. I was just saying hello to everybody, Joshua. I was letting Spotify, since they can only hear us, I wanted them to understand that they were— look, you know what they're hearing is Cindy Crawford, Brad Pitt, and George Clooney. That's accurate, right?

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Right. Good visual. Good morning, everybody. All right. Joshua is in the house. We're so excited. And we are going to pick up where we left off with Joshua last time. We'll recap in a few minutes, but there's something we need to do first. I know I do.

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Little did he know 2020 is better now than it was then.

Well, that's true. Yes, cheers, cheers back to you, Joshua. Um, You guys, so listen, you know I don't ever want you guys to be out in the world like suckers and losers. I want you to know all the, like remember when I introduced you to Punch Monkey and I was like, you gotta know Punch? Just in case, I mean, time has gone by and if you don't know Jimothy, it's time. Here he is.

I think making the rounds among fans of all things weird and creepy, this unusual raccoon possibly with a condition known as short spine syndrome. He's been spotted in Seattle. Embraced by Bigfoot lovers and nicknamed Jimothy by someone who explained, quote, he just looks like a Jimothy. I agree.

Okay, so that's Jimothy. Even President Trump liked him. Here he is looking at him.

Oh, wow.

So Jimothy is like sweeping the nation with his little short spine. He lives in Seattle, of course. Where else would Jimothy live? Um, So if anyone talks about Jimothy, I just want to make sure everyone at the Scott Adams School is up to date. And also, just in case they mention Tilly, here's Tilly. Tilly has the same thing.

Yep.

Amazing. So now you guys know. You're ready for the rest of the week. Jimothy, Tilly. You're welcome. Joshua, good morning.

Good morning, Erica. I'm pleased to be here with you.

And we are pleased. Thank you for joining the Scott Adams School. Like, who else would be here the most but you? We had on Joel the other day, gave us an update telling us that you guys were working on the biography together, how amazing it is. I didn't have the heart to tell him to call you Joshua. But I want you to know everyone in this chat was like, oh, it's Joshua, it's Joshua. I was like, Joshua can tell them. Um, but we, you know, we were looking out for you. We love you. So anyway, we'd love to hear your take on what's going on with the Scott Adams biography.

Yes, the experience that I have had going through it is the First announcement that Scott made on May 19th, 2025. So over, you know, just over 14 months now, the internet suddenly stopped everything and rallied around Scott. And we all remember the stories, the anecdotes, the "here's how you changed my life" from strangers. And we remember the threads where it's thousands of comments long, people writing novellas about their experiences. With Scott and what he meant to them. Do you remember how you felt reading all that and hearing that news publicly for the first time? And how over the next couple of days it began to settle in that we would all soon, whatever that meant, be experiencing Scott in the past tense? That, I think for many, created an open loop in our realities and an understanding of the world because Scott was such an effective sense maker for so many of us. And that loop has remained open. There has not been closure for, for many people. And I'm confident that as you read Scott's biography, that loop will close for you and you will experience cathartic closure. Still so many say, oh, I miss Scott. I miss Scott. I miss Scott. And there is a line in Reframe Your Brain in which, in the grief reframe section, Scott says something to the effect of, after you felt bad and you've cried and you felt sad, and when you're done with that, and then when you're ready, Scott Adams' biography will assist you in getting there.

Okay, well, that's good to know. I think a lot of people would like to get there and feel like it's impossible, but I guess you're saying it's possible.

Yes, I experienced that myself, and many people know how close he and I were, um, and it was like It was like grieving him all over again without him present to experience that. And when you rewrite an experience, and this is what you learn through hypnosis and why one creates multisensory simulations for the mind's eye, the mind's ear, and so on and so forth in the hypnosis session. When I do this with people, I have them remember the memory, okay, that has caused so many issues. And then I alter the experience of them remembering the memory, okay? So that going forwards, when you remember the memory, the thing that caused certain behaviors and beliefs and whatnot, you are not remembering all those times that it happened. You're remembering the time you remembered it and it didn't hurt anymore.

Mm.

And now you are free.

Love that. I love that. Are you guys ready to be hypnotized with this book so we can have a fresh new memory that doesn't hurt the way it used to? I am. I'll take it. I'll take two. Thank you. Well, that's amazing. And Joel said that you are a stellar editor. So we know this, but coming from Joel, that was quite nice to hear for you. And we're always proud of you. We love watching all the things you're doing and all the ghostwriting you're doing. And I see you're like really putting yourself out there more, which I'm loving. Can I actually post the photo you sent to me just so we can— if anyone wants to screenshot this, if you're in Ohio, let me just put this bigger. So why don't you tell us what this is?

Yes. So this is tonight in Springfield, Ohio, down Springfield. Many people have noticed that I am wearing a Over here. Ohio first. Hi. Ohio first hat. So, uh, many of you may know that I have authored the first and the only book that covers the American migrant crisis, specifically the influx of between 15,000 and 34,000 Haitians, uh, uniquely unassimilated Haitians who had been living in Brazil and Chile for the most part and were, uh, bussed up and flown in by the Biden administration into Springfield, Ohio. And what I have gathered is a punishment for the city, punishment for the people who are unable to defend themselves from the experience. And of course, there have been a number of deaths as a result of the Haitian influx into Springfield. Now, people might know eating the dogs, eating the cats, that sort of meme that went viral. And of course, PolitiFact called the Haitian influx phenomenon the lie of the year. Okay, they call it the lie of the year, and it's, uh, Vance shares false rumors, Trump doubles down on racist hoax. These are the headlines, right? There's even a Wikipedia page, Springfield hoax, something to that effect. Well, when I— earlier this year, okay, I live in Dayton, Ohio, okay? That's just one city over. It's like 16, 17 minutes for me to get from where, like, my door right here, okay, my office, to Springfield. Approximately. And I thought I had a responsibility to my neighbors because, because so many people were relieved when they found out that the temporary protected status was going to expire. Stay on track, they all go back. But then, of course, there was a battle in the lower courts and all the way up to the Supreme Court, and the people had that hope set dashed for them. It was a rather rough time, and it was earlier this year I tweeted about an experience, uh, in which I had met a longtime landlord in Springfield. I confirm aspects of the story, by the way, that were important. And he shared with me that he has rented to Haitians before and that he's had real issues renting to Haitians because they destroy his, his place. They, they, they, they take the Ohio and then they retrofit Haitian culture, custom, and ways of life. And All you got to do— know what this looks like? Pull up Haiti in Google Earth, go to Port-au-Prince, okay? Go to Port-au-Prince, Haiti, Google Earth, do Street View, and just browse around for a little bit. Is that what you would like your neighborhood to look like? If so, import tens of thousands of Haitians there, uh, with no delay. And that, of course, is what became of Springfield. And this, this man has repeatedly had to evict Haitians because often what they do is they will sublet, you know, one family will, will, will, will rent the property, and they will sublet it to 10 more of their own. And so now suddenly there's 15 Haitians living in a single-family 2-bedroom home.

Yeah, so that's what you told us last time. I was re-watching the show just to refresh, and it was astounding to me because you said also when they leave, they take the drywall off the counters, right? You said they like strip the house down to like its studs. I mean, so this is like real third world culture, like this, it just, it just doesn't fit people. Like, this is— and then we had— I don't know if you ever did see the Brandon Darby interview we had 2 days after you. If not, please watch it because I think you would really like him, Joshua. But you know, when you import the third world, you get the third world, right? And so all these Haitians on this one little concentrated area doesn't take long to destroy it.

Oh, right. It was rather catastrophic for the people. But of course, the— we call it, you know, @DataRepublic, of course, calls this the NGO administrative complex that is nationwide, that is a supranationalist organization. This is slightly different from globalism. Okay. We heard the other day President Macron of France, remember, he said patriots, patriotic, not nationalist. Yes, that's what that means. You're patriotic for being a citizen of Earth. All men are created equal. Everyone is basically the same. We're all interchangeable. And this democracy building that we saw for approximately 25 years or so, 20 years, in, in the, uh, in the Middle East, first with the War on Terror, so-called Iraq, the Afghanistan, um, the Arab Spring phenomenon, so on and so forth. All those antics and the ISIS and so on and so forth. Okay, the insurgents, that was the previous version of supranationalism where we can take our Western way in life and impose that on these cultures with IQ median mode and mean that are roughly equivalent to elementary schoolers in America. Okay, the adults. Okay, again, this is not exaggeration. This is just the way that it is. And so, uh, because that failed so spectacularly, the new super nationalist phenomenon to have us all get along and be a global neighborhood— it's like hippie kumbaya worldview, John Lennon's Imagine. That, that is in effect what they literally believe. They don't think they're evil. They think they're at the end of history and that there's a neoliberal, neoconservative world order where we can have liberal freedoms for everyone in the world and conserve everyone's best values and traditions, and we can all just get along, coexist.

But it doesn't seem to me like it's just about sort of breaking down borders or, you know, bringing everyone together like they were one country. It seems like it's more like, how do we get the far-left radical communist agenda into countries like the United States?

By design?

Yes, there is, there is certainly an aspect to this, but the, the supranationalists and leftists are ideologically distinct. Unfortunately, they find themselves being allies on a number of things because leftists have realized that supranationalism is so destructive So they like it. But you tend to see the super nationalists will condemn, uh, leftism and radical politics and whatnot, not realizing that the leftists see them as on the same side and useful to their agenda. Um, but because of the spectacular failure of the War on Terror, our global NGO administrative complex decided that the new solution to democracy building, instead of sending our soldiers there We're going to bring their civilians here and we are going to inculcate them in United States constitutional values by importing some of the most violent, backwards cultures in the world, be it Somalia, be it Haiti, be it Pakistan. And we're going to create massive enclaves of as many of them as possible. And when we educate them in our public school system and we have them enjoy civic life and voting for the first time and women's rights— shout your abortion—— okay, all the way back to Afghanistan— that will result in us being able to create everyone getting along, hashtag coexist. So that, as far as I can tell, is the ideology. Data Republic and I have a book coming out in October, I think the week after Haitians of Springfield comes out, that discusses all of this. Of course, that NGO administrative complex phenomenon exists in Clark County, Ohio. It exists in Springfield. And a lot of people say, oh, it's the Jews, or it's the Democratic Party, or it's the leftists, or it's the whoever. And the NGO administrative complex of Clark County is white Christian Republican, but they are explicitly, in my opinion, anti-white working-class conservative Trump voters. They see themselves as the betters of the community. They are the cosmopolitans. They're the ones who learn 5 sentences of Haitian Creole and will have a conversation. With them. They're the ones who say, "You don't understand, it's just their culture." "Oh, you say that you saw a small group of Haitians goosnapping in the park and grabbing up geese and ducks? You're racist because you said that." "Oh, you have proof of it actually happening? Oh, so you've never eaten a bird before? You've never had chicken before? I once ate duck and it was phenomenal." How dare you impose your morals on them, you white supremacist bigot. Like, that's, that's the cycle. It's not happening. Oh, it is. Well, you're both racist for saying it's happening and then racist for not being happy about it. And, and when you hear people say this for the first time, you feel like you're in a Twilight Zone episode or The Truman Show where the cameras are always around the corner. It's, it's really something. But again, The, the, the, the injury-administrative complex is like, love your neighbor. The Bible says love your neighbor. We have to love our neighbor as ourselves. We have our Haitian neighbors, and this is their reframe, okay? This is the thing that they use. This is the rallying cry. Haitian neighbors, Haitian neighbors, Haitian neighbors, Haitian neighbors, love your Haitian neighbors, Haitian neighbors, Haitian neighbors. It's like a song, and it's almost, and it's the thing that they just, they put out there because love your neighbor, it's an, it's an explicitly Christian message. The people that are running the show, they're Republicans. It's almost entirely Republicans, although there are a few groups that are explicitly anti-Trump, and that's their founding thing. "We are here to resist the Donald Trump agenda," you know, "F ICE" type of spirit. But they find themselves on the same side because, in my opinion, they hate working class white people more than they love Haitians. This is the experience that I've had. With actual volunteers who have attempted to help Haitian families integrate into the American way of life. There have been a number who have been— who have extended actual compassion to the Haitian people and have done good by them, in my opinion. And they're not at all affiliated with these organizations who are using the Haitians as empath props for fundraising. And I want all Scott Adams School viewers to begin using that phrase and notice that phrase. Empathy props. Okay, so the Haitians of Springfield have been used as empathy props for the supranationalist NGO-administrative complex. And you will notice that there are these so-called protected classes that are the empathy props. It's, give me what I want, look at this poor Haitian child, gimme, gimme what I want, give me power, poor Haitian child, look at my empathy prop. And then that's all they're doing, and they're very explicit about it too. So there are a number of organizations in Springfield who are using empathy props, Haitians, and are raising tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, even millions of dollars by saying, "Love our Haitian neighbors. Love our Haitian neighbors." It's just incredible content. And so what I've done with Haitians of Springfield is I have successfully debunked the debunking that the mainstream media claimed that they did 2 years ago. And tonight is my first public appearance in Springfield as the author. I've been sleuthing and gumshoeing around quietly around town for the last several months now, not revealing my true agenda as I interview the enemies of the people, uh, in Springfield and get all the goods on them. And they will not be very happy.

And what would you tell them when you're interviewing them? Stay on track.

They all go back is what I would say now. That's not what I would say then. I would say, oh yeah, I'm just, you know, I'm in, I'm in town today. There's a few sites, few parks, you know. You guys have a bit of Indian burial mound around here, right? You know, which of course is true. And It was just, oh, okay, you know, I, uh, I'm around town. And, and of course, I am— I have a background as a professional actor in theater, and so I know how to go into character when I'm— and I'm effective at doing that around, uh, enemies of people and not betraying your true agenda. And this is something that I would like conservatives and people on the right to understand. Oh, Joshua, that's unethical. You know what's unethical is importing tens of thousands of people to a city who cannot defend themselves, silencing them, shaming them, threatening their jobs if they speak out. So many of the people who witnessed the cats being killed, skinned, sacrificed— it's a voodoo thing— ducks, geese, they were forced to sign NDAs or they would lose their pension, be it from the school or be it from the city. They were employees. People who said, if you talk about what you saw, we are going to put hundreds of 1-star reviews on your business, or we are going to report to your employer that you are a racist bigot, neo-Nazi. Would you like us to do that? Put the mic in their face. What's your name again? Mm-hmm. What did you say you saw? Oh, I didn't see anything. Damn right you didn't. And that's what the mainstream media did to these people. And I am their voice, Erica. I am their champion.

You are.

Everything that they have said, I have vindicated them. And so we're having a town hall tonight with an investigative reporter as the emcee named Jack Windsor, who can independently confirm many of the things in the book because he witnessed it 2 years ago when he came to Springfield. And it's a forum for the people of Springfield to experience a cathartic release of, we were right, and now someone believes us. Yeah, thank God.

Like, how many people around this country wish someone would just point out this horrible thing happening near them and put attention and focus on it. Is it going to be livestreamed?

Uh, parts of it will be recorded, I, I am, I am sure. But I, I think there's still fear amongst the populace of losing their job, losing their business, etc., that it probably won't. We couldn't want to face docs, name docs, or anyone. Yeah, and will there be any vetting process? And, and the Clark County Sheriff's Office will be there. And by the way, the Sheriff of Clark County, who was there from 2017 to 2025, she saw everything. She gave me all the receipts. She gave me everything.

Great. Good. You guys, this is, this is what we need. Yes. Like, citizen vigilante is the word of the year for me, or the, of lately. I love the word vigilante lately because it's like no one else is stepping up to do things. And that's what I keep telling the Sippers, you know, we have to, we have to do the things, you know, we have to be the, the louder mouths and represent ourselves, I guess. Owen, what's your take so far?

Well, I think it's great what you're doing, and, um, I'm interested to see how this is all going to play out. I, I know there is this thing going on right now with Springfield where they revoked the TPS, and in theory they're all going to be deported. Um, I think there was some false online rumor that 80% of them were self-deporting. Um, and you know, now there are— there is some messaging coming out, I think, from DHS encouraging them to self-deport, and I'm sure that would probably be the easier way to get rid of most of them if they do that. But it seems like they're hanging on from what I can tell, so they're trying to keep working and keep, you know, sticking to the last possible moment. So it'll be interesting to see if there's a raid in Springfield. Maybe I'll get some good footage.

Yeah, what do you know about that, Joshua? Has anyone— has there been a decrease of Haitians since that came out?

No, not according to the people that I have heard from. Literally hundreds, probably about 300 to 400 Springfield residents who have reached out to me personally and said, Joshua, you got to stop this rumor. They're all still here. They're all still causing mayhem. And they're also not simply not self-deporting, they're spreading. Uh, there was an incident the other day about a Haitian crashing their car into a business in Huber Heights, which is a neighboring city. They've been spotted in Troy, Ohio, which is Miami County, Englewood, Ohio, uh, in Montgomery County, uh, Beavercreek, uh, Township, Ohio. A number of them were caught shoplifting yesterday at the Beavercreek Walmart. So they're not self-deporting, they're spreading. And this is the issue with, I believe, a, a feckless Republican Party that unfortunately falls for this whole, um, well, we got to have sympathy, we got to have compassion on them, we got to give them an emergency extension. And the people of Springfield are wanting to throw up, uh, Batman's signal with Donald Trump's profile of, of, of please send ICE in here and, uh, round them all up and take them out. And it can be done swiftly and it could be done, uh, gently, but it, it must be done. And as I like to say, remigration is compassionate, safe, and effective because everyone deserves to live amongst those with whom they belong.

Why aren't they being taken out? Like, so this passed, this, you know, this, you can do it, you can get rid of them, take away their protective custody status. So why are they still there? Like, why isn't there like, okay, quick, let's go get everybody and get them out.

Well, the Haitians and the, I call them the opposite Ohio first. They're the, the administrative, the NGO administrative complex of, of the businesses, the, of the, of the, the religious institutions, the charities, the government, so on and so forth, that basically run the town. You know, the cosmopolitan elites, they're called by the working-class people. It's a working-class Rust Belt post-industrial town that lost approximately 25% of its population from 1980 to 2020-ish, okay, due to NAFTA and other things that wiped out so many jobs, uh, from the community. And then you had the opioid crisis that took, took, uh, uh, and left a rather horrific impact on the city. But when you talk to the people, they— the Haiti First, I call them, the Haiti First community— they simply say, oh, we're not going anywhere. We're staying. We're going to keep driving. We're going to keep working. And you're not going to stop us. And that, by the way, is the Haiti First community that speaks on behalf of the Haitians. They're still in Springfield because the— in my opinion, in my opinion, the explicitly anti-white NGO administrative complex wants them there. And I think they use the Haitians as empathy props because they're non-white, and it's much easier to use them as a political bludgeon against relatively defenseless, vulnerable, working-class white Trump voters, uh, in a way that the Latinos have not. There's approximately 8,000 Latinos in Springfield, uh, from the numbers that I have seen. And they tend to get along really well with the locals. They start the restaurants or food trucks, and then the Springfieilders love to, love to, you know, hang out there. That's the place to go. You got it for birthday, you go to the Mexican restaurant. Okay, a number of the locals have learned Spanish, they have learned English, and vice versa. Kids play together. Like, it's an actual assimilation and even integration that's happening with the Latinos. But they say their culture is close enough to ours that it just works. We get along, and where we're different, we don't disagree, we don't have problems. But the Haitians largely have a, have a culture so foreign to any American way of life, it just doesn't work. And the vast majority have no interest in assimilating. They are, in my opinion, an ethno-narcissistic culture that is simultaneously low trust, so that when Haitians have been positions of power, like as landlords, as small business owners, or whatever, they take horrific advantage over their own people who they're renting to. A regular Haitian scam that has been run around town to families with pregnant mothers and small children by their own people is, oh, I'm the landlord of this home. I will rent to you, Haitian. You're pregnant with twins. You have a 2-year-old and a 4-year-old. Your husband's having trouble finding work. I'll rent to you. I'll charge you per person for my property, which is illegal, of course. Yes. And they do it anyway. And then a year later, it comes out there's an eviction notice because the Haitian landlord wasn't actually the landlord. He was renting from the landlord and lying to this family. And now they're all being evicted because their money has been stolen by this. And that Haitian way of life, unfortunately. And he's subletting it in New York City, like the Italian cops in New York City. We don't do that in America.

Right. But if an American landlord did that, they'd be in trouble. But this guy's like, nope, subletting. I'm once removed. I don't even have anything to do with it.

Well, if an American person did that, they would probably be in prison now.

Yes. It's disgusting. I mean, that's part of the— I mean, the problem I see is that You know, we're not— Americans are not stupid. Like, we see all the things, but yeah, the government and the politicians want to keep telling us that we're full of it. And, um, you know, and I go back to suicidal empathy and, oh well, you're just racist and you're, you're a Trumper and you're a whatever. And it's like, go ahead, call me names. Like, you guys, I hope everybody at this point is immune to being called a name. Like, you just don't care. Call me whatever you want, just don't call me late for dinner. Um, but It's like the lying to everybody's face is only making Americans more upset. And I think it's going to backfire because I feel like there are more little pop-ups of like you, what you're doing for Ohio. You got your Nick Shirley and you've got your Nate Friedmans and, you know, people that are just like, listen, I'm just going to go out there and expose it all. And it hopefully will create a million more people like you Um, I feel like at some point our voice has to overpower the NGOs and the politicians. I just feel like it has to, um, whether we end up with a, another third viable party or something. Um, I just want to see a way out of the situation we're in. So is there a way out of what's happening in our country, do you think? Either one of you, Owen or Joshua, is there a way out of this? Well, let's get in the comments.

Owen, you got something? You got something for everyone?

Well, I mean, my perspective is we are, we are going in the right direction here. We are deporting a lot of people. We are revoking TPS. We are, you know, yanking all the financial benefits away from these people. Because I think that's, to me, the biggest problem is when you give people free healthcare, free rent, free food, free everything, you're, you're not only overwhelming our systems because those were designed as like social support systems for American citizens. And you can't just extend that to the world and expect that to be sustainable, but it also encourages them to come. It encourages them to be here, and it, it is probably in large measure why so many of them are here. And so I think Trump is doing a lot of the right things. I mean, back when we first started with this second term and I started talking about, you know, here's what I think you need to do to get rid of all these people, I was saying you need to take away these economic incentives, take away all the money that they're getting And they'll go home cuz that's why they're here. And, and that's exactly what Trump is doing. I see headlines on a regular basis, like we're taking away in-state tuition, we're taking away the free scholarships, we're taking away the ability to get Social Security and all this. So they're sweeping through it and it's taking time, but I think we're doing all the right things. But it is gonna take time. I, I would certainly love it to go faster and I would love it to be more than it is, but I, I have to give Trump credit that I think he's doing a lot of the right things to try and reverse this trend.

Yes. I have a quick question. What is Vivek saying about all of this?

Not much of anything as far as I can tell. In my opinion, he is absolutely high on his own supply of basically Silicon Valley thinking in a non-Silicon Valley state. Okay. For what that's worth. Yes.

Yes.

Everyone's asking. Erica, he is, he is beloved across Ohio. He is beloved across Ohio, specifically by working-class white Trump voters, Republicans, conservatives. And you know what they call him? Here's why, here's why. They come from an age of the civil rights movement, the sexual revolution, women's lib, all these sorts of things. Kumbaya, burn your draft cards, Vietnam. Okay. And you know what they call Vivek? They say he's our Obama. And Vivek is their defense against racist accusations. Look, I'm not a racist. I like Vivek. Here's our selfie. So he's an empathy prop too. Yes, yes. I think it's more so a— you remember Scott had that crash out against Vivek? That was delicious. Yeah, he had a crash out against Vivek. That was one of his— I would love to like Scott's top 10 crash outs. There was the other Erica, right, uh, famously. And then there was a Gitzfavék that was, that was, uh, beautiful.

No, the other Shelley.

I thought it was the other Erica. I thought there was another Erica also.

There was the other Shelley. You know what, there might have been an Erica once, but there was, there were two Shelleys that had nothing to do with Shelley, you guys. But this— oh, I, I've got the Shelley one on a video. I can show you guys.

Mhm. Yes. Yeah, but I remember he said, he said it's not, uh, he, he, uh, had to clarify, it's not, it's not our Erica. That's Erika the Excellent. That's the first time I heard about you, by the way, is he called you Erika the Excellent to make sure that he was not talking about the other Erika, you know, that he had a rant on. That's funny. Yes, yes. Um, but yes, I agree, Owen, that the incentive structures are the correct things to, to target to initiate that self-deportation. It doesn't seem to be happening en masse because the NGO administrative complex has, has, has, has said we are not going to cooperate. Um, I, I have reason to believe Springfield Police Department's objective is non-cooperation with ICE. It's effectively a sanctuary city from what I understand. There are a ridiculous number of churches who are Haiti First and they have explicitly agreed together to engage in civil disobedience and sheltering Haitians from deportation, assisting them, driving them around town. You know, all the things that it takes to get them driving, which of course is now illegal because of the TPS. If you're TPS, you can't drive anymore as of, um, Friday. I think it's Friday. You also can't work anymore. And yet these churches, these communities, uh, organizations are saying that, uh, we're going to help them retain their employment and we're going to assist in that process. And so there's there's this strange experience where they're effectively lying. When the media comes in, they, they want to, they want to tell Haiti first. They want to tell that side of the story because it's like, all those racist white Trump supporters. Well, how do you know they're racist? Well, they're white. And that is the key to the story. Every person who's been pilloried in the media— oh, you're racist for saying that about the Haitians because you're white. And when I say anti-white, I don't mean some weird ethno-nationalist business. I mean, oh, you said that you saw, you know, you said you saw them skinning, skinning cats. Well, you say that because you're white and they're black, so obviously it didn't happen and you're racist. And there's more Haitians. That's your punishment. That's your punishment. More Haitians. And that's such a tired line.

Like, it seems like we're past that to me, or we should be. Like, it doesn't work for me. Like, if someone is calling me a racist or saying that something is because I'm white or because I'm privileged or— it's like, I don't care. It doesn't— I just don't— it doesn't even register the way it used to, you know, for a lot of people. And I'm sure it still does for some people. And maybe, you know, maybe in the more rural areas they are, you know, still sort of in that mode, just because it tends to be that a lot of the trends start in the cities and move across the country. But, um, it just seems like, you know, I, I kind of laugh at these people when they say these things. It's like just so ridiculous.

Yeah, well, and also saying, oh, you're saying that because you're white, that's racist. Like, hello, you're the one talking about skin color, right?

Yes, but they're thoroughly, um, uh, they're thoroughly critical race theorized because, well, uh, darker-skinned people can't be racist, brown and Black people can't be racist, only white people can be racist. So you saying that that's racist against white people is in fact a demonstration of your racism, dear white person. Yes. I like Scott Adams' good reframe on this. He said that racist is an anti-white slur. It's a racial slur. Calling a white person racist is a racial slur. I think he had one livestream, he called it the R word.

Oh, probably, yeah. And it's true. So you guys are reminding me in the chat, yes, Walter Curne, his advice to all of us, 'cause I said, what do we do? How do we combat all this stuff? He's like, get in their faces, like stand up, get in their faces, be a voice, don't sit out anything, say your say. I'm always saying that too. Like, it's okay, like you don't have to not be who you truly are. Like you can be kind and considerate and still voice your opinion. But the point is, is we need to speak up more, more frequently. I've actually started doing that in a few different ways where I think I'm, and I think I'm doing a pretty good job. I am speaking up to people I might not normally have and just kind of, getting information out there. I'm sure none of you are shocked that I use my voice. And also, I love that you said empathy props, which also reminds me how Scott's like, call them your mascots. Oh, these are their mascots. He loved that word. If he had someone trolling him, he'd be like, oh, I have a new mascot today. So I also like that. Mockery is amazing. So, oh, look at the NGOs, the whoever's, they have their little Haitian mascots. Oh, isn't that sweet. Um, mock them. I mean, mocking is fun, but we can't sit idly by. Um, and I, I'm hoping— is there anyone in the chat? You could be honest. Um, is there anyone in the chat that cares anymore if somebody called you a name like a racist or a bigot or a whatever, whatever? You know, if you, you know, if you do, let us know, because I think anyone here would like really help you get past that. I used to think like, oh my gosh, how could you call somebody a racist? It was like the worst thing you would ever call somebody. And it just became so commonplace by 2016 that I was just like, okay, yeah, I guess we're all racist. And by the way, that kind of talk is creating a whole new group of racists because now we've had it. So, Kevin, is that a yes for you? Uh, not at all. Good. Okay, so let us know. And if anyone needs help with that and you want to do like a separate, uh, live stream one night, um, we can do that because no one should be affected by these words. Just remember sticks and stones. But okay, Joshua, back to your story.

Sorry. Yes, so the concern that people have— I am alleviating, um, concerned about being called racist and whatnot and then losing opportunities and whatnot. Because I, I've commissioned the first professional and academic poll of the people of Springfield on the matter of the Haitian influx. And if you look across the demographics, uh, you, you do see the, um, pro-Black alliance where the vast majority of Black people that we polled in Springfield said that they have positive, positive sentiments towards Haitians, that they support the influx. But if you look at the other, other racial demographics and other racial groups far more negative on the matter of the Haitian influx than the white respondents were Hispanics, Latinos, far more negative, uh, Jewish people, far more negative, and Asian people, and also various Asian, South Asian, East Asian, and whatnot. Now obviously there's fewer, you know, fewer of those in Clark County and in Enfield, but I think it's notable just simply how negative, uh, towards the Haitian the sentiment was on other non-white, non-Black people was, uh, not surprising, of course, because I also interviewed Dominicans, the people who share an island with Haitians, the actual Haitians, and what it's like, who've been there, what do they see, what is their culture like up close and personal. Uh, if only you knew how bad things really are. Remember what Stephen Miller said? I'm going to paraphrase. He said a useful way to think about immigration is to look at the culture of migrants from a specific nation and ask yourself, would we like the reality of that culture recreated here? To what extent would we like them to recreate their culture here? And deciding whether or not we should allow them into our country. And again, open up Google Earth, go to Port-au-Prince, Street View, 5, 10 minutes, and you'll say, yeah, I don't want these socioeconomic factors anywhere near my kids. That's right.

That's right. Owen, anything thus far?

No, I mean, I, I agree with everything you're saying. I think it's, um, just ridiculous that it's gotten this far. And I think, again, we need to just take away their ability to get jobs because they, they shouldn't be able to legally work. They shouldn't be able to legally do any of these things. And I think if we really just enforce the laws we have, I think that would be a huge step in the right direction. And so yeah, I agree that, you know, it's, it's just, I think it is sort of a racial slur, like you were saying, in terms of calling people a racist. And it's a brilliant, brilliant reframe, because it's kind of like a total flip the script sort of way of doing things. And, you know, I think we do need to reframe these things. And it The other thing that strikes me is like how shallow these brainwashed people are. You know, they don't really— they've never thought through the argument. They don't have any facts. They don't have any connection to reality. They're just parroting talking points. Like, I listened to this Caleb Hammer, you know, financial audit guy who had this leftist person on, and, you know, it's supposed to be about like helping the person with their finances, but most of the show was just about all the woke stuff that this person believed. And like, it was just so funny because— and it seemed like she was a caricature of this, but like she would say, oh, I believe this, I believe that, I believe this. And I, you know, and he would just go one inch deep, just one inch. Like, like, do you know any statistics on this? Do you know anything about this? Like, do you— like, here's the reality. And she didn't know anything. She didn't know anything about anything. She— like, as soon as he questioned anything or said, where's the facts behind that, she had nothing. And it, it, it just, to me, it was a clear sign of like, okay, this person was brainwashed. Like this person was just told, here's what you're supposed to think. Yeah. Not going through any of the real education of the facts on the ground or what's really happening or what really works or what really, you know, makes for a good society. Like the, you know, the person would say, I have these goals to like help people. And it's, and he would say, well, the way to help people is capitalism. And of course she didn't like that, but like she had no counter to it cuz she didn't really have an argument.

Nobody ever does. And that's—

well, I do think, I mean, I don't know, maybe it is I'm biased because I listen to smart people on the right, but like it does seem like there were— there are a lot of people like a Charlie Kirk or a Matt Walsh or, you know, a lot of people that sort of know what they're talking about. And, you know, Joshua, I mean, you know, you've done your research obviously for your book, you know all about what's actually happening. And if you had a discussion with someone on the other side, I'm guessing they would know nothing. They would know absolutely nothing about what really is happening and what really would work to make things better or to, you know, reduce crime, make things safer, make better integration, all these other things. They would have no real knowledge of any of that, and they would have no historical knowledge of what has worked in the past and what hasn't. It's just, well, you're a racist. And, and like, that's where they're— that's where their logic stops. Like, it doesn't go any further than that. They have nothing to back it up. Yes, but they have, they have a lot.

They have a significant spread of negative emotions, screaming, shrieking, violence. It's, it can get, it can get pretty rough, pretty, pretty rough. And so the normal people of Springfield, they sort of live in fear in many cases, kind of put their head down, don't want to see it, don't want to know about it, don't want to be seen noticing it. A lot of people say, oh, I haven't, I haven't seen anything. Oh no, it's all fine. I haven't seen anything. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I'm just, okay. And then they'll go, but it was the strangest thing this one time. And then they tell this, oh my God, story. And then let them keep going if they know that they're safe with you. And they feel like you aren't Haiti first. And then they'll just unload horror stories that completely contradict what they said previously, because they weren't sure about you. They were frankly, they were afraid. Um, and, uh, yes, uh, somebody asked, is it going to be security at the events and that? Yes, Clark County Sheriff's deputies will be there to protect me and to protect the people who are there tonight. Um, yes, the, the interesting thing about the Haiti First community is, of course, they're, um, they use the Haitians as their empathy props, but I don't think they love the Haitians. I think they just hate the white working class that's there, who they deem themselves the betters of And I've spoken with volunteers, uh, private individuals and families and couples who've helped out Haitians who have been scammed by their own people, taken advantage of, and so on and so forth. By— again, they're ethno-narcissistic, where we love our country, we love our people, we love ourselves, we're just the best, we're the best race, we're the best group. It's like Haitian supremacists or something. And then yet they're also the ones who are kidnapping, slaughtering each other back on the island, and who are getting taken advantage of left and right by their own people is such a bizarre experience. The best thing that ever happened to Haiti is Éric Prince. He's one year approximately into a 10-year plan to fix the country, which is good. He's been hired by the Trump administration and is working with some peacekeepers— peacekeepers— from Kenya. So the idea is that by introducing effectively a total police state in Haiti that they can do to Haiti what Lee Kuan Yew did to Singapore. Hmm. You know, taking this very low-educated, low-skilled, um, basically swamp island with shanties, uh, and turn it into one of the most successful city-states in the world in just about 25 years. So that's what Erik Prince's plan effectively is, uh, I think.

So Erik's not looking for help from the Clintons? In Haiti?

No, that was another, that was another grift, uh, but pretty much nothing at all was, nothing at all was done. Um, yeah, it's, it's rough. And coming back to the matter of the, of the Haitians and the people in Springfield and the volunteers, the people who have been volunteering and like donating and bringing, uh, food and diapers to these families and helping them get their heat turned on and paying the utility bills after it got turned off because the person that they were paying wasn't actually the electric utility. It was a Haitian scammer claiming he was, wearing like a simple vest and a badge or whatever. It's just— it's third— this is the third world gaze, I'm telling you. Third world gaze. Make that popular as a reframe. I love that. Yeah. Um, so these people who have been volunteering, helping, you know, of course they're, they're Christians, um, but they're, they're actually good at being Christian. The people who are now protesting and showing up at all these events and rabble-rousing and dropping every single accusation of the white people and showing up at all the rallies, and they're, they're spitting on Trump supporters— it's a thing that's now happening in Springfield, you know, these, these, uh, these, these various NPR Americans who were there. The volunteers who, with their own private time, resources, money, who have helped the Haitians. When they asked these liberal protesters for help, they scoffed at them. They don't need our help. You shouldn't be helping them. What are you doing? They were, they were scoffed at. So we know that they don't actually love the Haitians, because when they actually needed help when they first got here the most, uh, they were nowhere to be found. And in fact, they said, I don't want to donate, I'm not going to help you, you shouldn't be helping them, right? I think the people who are doing the accusations of racism are simply projecting their own racism on other people. They tend not to actually have empathy. I think Toxic Empathy by Allie Beth Stuckey, Suicidal Empathy by Gad Saad, I believe both of these are wholly incorrect. They don't actually have empathy. They have hate in their hearts. For people like them. And we see this in various polls. When you, when you look at one's self-esteem across political and demographic groups, you notice that the only group that has self-hate are white liberals, specifically for their own race. We see this. And 100% Jack Posobiec and I, we talk about the anti-whites, this, that, and the other. Most anti-whites are white people. And it's this group that, you know, everyone else esteems themselves well, like Basically, all Black people think the absolute highest of themselves. Latinos, you see a lot of Latin pride there. White people, mildly proud of themselves. But when you slice it down only by white liberals, it's like just utter self-hate in there. So when they say empathy, what they're really doing is they're projecting onto other people. They look at Black people and brown people and they say, you're just like me. I would never kill a goose from the park, therefore you wouldn't either. That's what they do. And then they look at the person who says, for example, oh, you say that you saw that Black person eating the goose in the park? Well, I would only say that if I were a racist, because the Black people are just like me and you. They would never do anything like that. What, you think Bigfoot's real? You saw, you saw, uh, I bet you also saw Bigfoot steal up a duck in the park, didn't you? Huh? Huh? And that's how it works out. They are supremely close-minded and live in a reality-free zone, but they get around enough, as Scott famously said on his livestreams and in God's Debris, that many people can have realities that fork so differently— a Hindu person and a Christian— and they can both shop in the same grocery store, they can work together, and get along even though they believe fundamentally different things about life, reality, and society itself, and the best way to organize them, uh, and the afterlife and whatnot. And yet in the real world you can kind of get along, but it's when you have these, uh, let's say clashes where they have two different movies on the same screen. And Chapter 2 of Haitians of Springfield is called Two Springfields on One Screen. That's right.

To Springfield. All right, so, you know, it's just interesting what you said. I just— in the chat, okay, white people, white people in the chat, I, I never think about myself as being white. So like when you're saying like, you know, yeah, I fully agree too, like these woke left people are so focused on being white and apologizing for it. I don't ever even think about anything about anyone ever, but it's like Because that's the way I grew up. I mean, so I'm old enough that I remember when people would say like, oh, like, you know, we don't say the word maid anymore, we say housekeeper, and you don't do this. And like, I was like in that era growing up, so of like, you know, everyone's equal and whatever. So when I grew up, I was like, yeah, everyone's equal, fine, no problem. And then Obama came along and blew it out of the water, and now all they're telling you to do is think about your own race, everybody's race. What color are you? You're, you know, you're this, you're that. And I'm like, it's such bullshit. So for anyone under, let's say, 40 that thinks that this is real, this racism, it is so man-made, it's so manufactured now, like, you know, in the current day, because this was not a thing. This was not a thing until Obama, literally. So like All of us racists voted for a half-Black man. How does that work? Twice. So he won twice. But, but all white people are racist. Like, make it make sense. It doesn't make sense. Do the math. So it's all bull. And if you're apologizing for your skin color or your privilege or whatever, you got to stop. You've got to, like, get yourself straight. You have some kind of problem because They're just telling you to feel that way. There's nothing happening here. And it makes me crazy to see it because I lived in both worlds and I feel bad for the kids today because they really believe this crap. And now we are watching racism. I've never seen it in my life, you know, but my entire life until the last like 10 years, I cannot even believe that we're talking about race and racism and reparations and slavery and stop it. But now you're going to import the third world here and we're going to see all of their problems. And now we've got to feel bad for these Black people. And now they're the new people we have to worry about because they didn't have it as good as old whitey over here. And it's just like, what are we doing? So I don't know. I don't even know where my tangent my rants going, but I am so sick of it because I lived it and it's so fake and manufactured and obvious that it's a grift and it's to divide us. And also, Joshua, now I'm going to end up in the last spot that we were at in the last show where we said we started to talk about replacement theory and that's what we were going to talk about today. But now I'm ending with that again, saying like it's all about replacing a nation. So now you have to come back again. I mean, anything on what I'm saying? Anybody, you know, feel free to get some last words in.

Yes, I think, I think the case is that the— in the same way that the Democratic Party, you know, transformed, um, African Americans in America, Blacks in America, into being 90 to 95 to 98 to 99% Democrat every single time They have that inbuilt loyalty by perpetually reminding them of grievances. You know, if you're, if you're focusing on the negative, you're going to get more of that. And then you just have to simply, simply say, vote for me because I'm Black, I'm one of you, I'm going to take care of you. And then those, of course, tend to be the worst scammers among them. But because of the tribal identification, and, and, and unfortunately, there are certain groups that tend to be far more tribal, as we see with the opinions of oneself and one's own groups. The result is you tend to have— the more Democrat an area it is, it is worse off for literally everyone involved on the matter who lives there and even particularly demographics. I think they realize— the Democratic Party realized somewhere between Clinton and Obama, they realized that they can recreate an ethnic cohort driven loyalty for the Democratic Party in the same way that they did with the, uh, with, with Blacks. Basically, you can, you can treat this group of people horrifically when you're in office, and yet as long as you perpetually say, I'm for you, whitey's out to get you, they'll keep voting for you at 90%. And whereas with whites, they tend to kind of go on both ways in the working class. And what about the unions? It used to be But then they kind of went for Trump and populism started to be a thing. So, oh, it's just so much easier to just import people who we can make forcibly loyal to us in large cohorts. And I think it is, I think it is, it is implicitly anti-white, but I think it is first a political, a politically practical solution. Oh, we just import people, we make illegal immigration legal, we fly them into these communities that are largely white Trump supporters to replace them and be a birthright citizenship, mass assignment, and making it easier to become first a green card, you know, holder, and then permanent resident, and then make them a citizen and whatnot. You can very easily get ethnic loyalty for your cohort within, within your party. And we see that with the so-called Squad in Congress, with various ethnic enclaves that they introduce. Of course, Rashida Tlaib with the Palestinians, of course they're always going to vote for her just because she's of the same ethnicity. You see this with Ilhan Omar Omar, uh, being Somali, and of course the Somali community is loyal to her. So this of course is a supranationalist idea, tangible. And unfortunately Vivek Ramaswamy has put this forward, the magic dirt hypothesis, which I, I've returned it, uh, the Vivekian hypothesis, which says America is an idea. As Vivek famously said, you come to America, you become American. Magic dirt, the Vivekananda hypothesis. Of course, it doesn't actually work, but that is a supranationalist worldview that most people in Silicon Valley, uh, possess. Because like, well, I'm that way, I get along with everyone who's of a different ethnicity that I work with, not understanding how enculturation works— uh, acculturation, rather. Purpose-driven missions can be a new identity, a new tribal alignment for people of disparate backgrounds. Not understanding any of this, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're just a little bit too smart for their own good, the supranationalists. And yet they don't notice what's right in front of them, that Haitians will always put Haitians first regardless. But we don't do that in America. But when they become Americans and they have kids here, they become American, and yet they don't stop being Haitian. And so now we have the clash where Americans have to integrate and assimilate to the Haitian way of life, which was forced upon Springfield without a voice, without a vote, without their consent.

Wow, yeah, it's amazing. Owen, any closing words for us today?

Yeah, I mean, I think it's all been great. Uh, um, it, it always has disgusted me about politics how a lot of the parties will, I think, intentionally never solve the problems that they say they're gonna solve because they want to use it for fundraising and they want to use it to have a boogeyman and they want to say, I'm on your side, I'm fighting for you. But then when it really comes down to it, when they have the power, they don't do it. You know, the Democrats could have passed Roe v. Wade when Obama was in office. They didn't do it. And when they tried to pass it more recently, they intentionally went all the way to birth and said, we want no exceptions, You know, that they could have tried for the Roe v. Wade, but they didn't. Why? Because they didn't really want it to pass. They wanted to just make a point, make it a big issue, and use it to divide people and push people to their side. And so I wish we could find a way to get rid of that dynamic going on in our political system. And both sides do it.

Yeah, I agree. Joshua, good luck tonight. If anyone is, you know, in driving distance to get over there, do it and I'll, I'll post the flyer again on my X profile so you guys can find it there. Did you invite Vivek? Absolutely not. So you don't want him there?

I mean, he comes, you know, it's fine. But, you know, he's, he's, he's parading around, you know, doing his, doing his thing. But here, the bizarre thing about Vivek— this is my last 30-second bit— Vivek Ramaswamy versus Amy Acton, who I predicted it was going to be like 2 years ago. Uh, the bizarre thing is that the Republican establishment in the Ohio State House will resist Vivek more than they would Amy Acton. RINOs, Republicans in Name Only, absolutely love the validation of leftists. And because that's what Amy Acton is, they will be bipartisan centrists and compromise and give her everything that she wants. But they will resist Vivek to try to put on this thing of like, he's Trump-aligned, so we've got to resist the MAGA agenda. Uh, so So Republicans, they will just fall in line for Amy Acton. So I do not support Amy, uh, Acton, but I simply want people to know what's really happening in Ohio with regard to Vivek and the Vivekian hypothesis.

All right, good. So we obviously have to keep this conversation going, Joshua. It's so good. And you guys, thank you for the feedback. Everybody really loved this show today. I'm so glad. I love when we can just have a good chat. Um, so the book is The Haitians of Springfield. It's coming out October 6th. It's going to be a Libra like me, and you can preorder it now. And good luck tonight. We definitely want to hear how it goes and continue on with this. It's such an important conversation because Springfield is just a microcosm of all different places all over this country. So it's not unique. It's unique with the Haitians right now, but everyone's got their issues happening right now everywhere. So we will definitely follow up with Joshua. Thank you for the update on the book. Thank you for working on the, the Scott Adams biography. We cannot wait. Um, and, uh, you guys, sorry, Marcella had to work today. I never even said that in the beginning, but she'll be back tomorrow. Okay, so thanks, you guys. Thanks, Owen, so much. Um, I will play an Akira song after the show, and if you guys have to jet, go ahead and jet. Um, as always, we say thank you to Scott Adams and Shelley for allowing this show to go on. We, uh, we are so thrilled for everybody that shows up here and participates in the chatting, and even if you're just listening, like, we, we really look forward to this every single Owen has a meeting, he did tell me. So anyway, you guys, let's be useful. Think about what you can do in your own communities. Think about what Joshua is doing. Think about like Scott Pressler, all these people, and just do maybe a little piece of it. Maybe get a group together and what can you help solve for your town and your country and your area? Joshua, you're just the biggest gem. I love you so much. I appreciate you always. And let's have a closing sip to our beloved Scott Adams. Okay guys, let's do an Akira song. And Joshua, if you have to go, no worries. Sure thing.

Thank you, Erica.

Thank you all. All right, let's do— oh, Beautiful World. Let's do Beautiful World. I'm in the mood.

Although the science says that your happiness is not that affected by your environment. That's not true. Your happiness is totally affected by your environment. If your environment is a loving family, you don't think you'd be a little bit happier than if you were sitting all alone in your little apartment like some of you are? I think it's absurd. To imagine that changing your situation won't make you happier. You don't think that going from poor, where you're, you're panicked about eating, to well-off, you don't think that would make you happier because you didn't have to worry about starving? Of course I would. I guarantee it would make you happier. So yeah, fix your physical exposure, meaning go outside, you know, make sure that you're around some beauty and that you're not looking at depressing gray things. I would even change my commute if it took a few minutes to go through a more attractive place. If you can look at it every day, it's better to expose yourself to the attractive route than the, you know, fast industrial route.

Oh, that was smooth. You guys, that was smooth. I love that. Akira's the bomb. You guys, thank you so much. So if anyone needs to change your environment today, I love the idea. I do this often. If I have to go somewhere, I'm like, do I want to take the fastest route or do I want to take the scenic route? Take the scenic route. Leave, leave 10 minutes earlier, take the scenic route and safely enjoy the scenery and the environment. Breathe in the air. Notice what you're seeing. Take note of things. Don't just fly through life really fast. Okay. All right. So we'll be back tomorrow. The home team will be here tomorrow. You guys are the best. Um, thank you so much for being here every day. We really love and appreciate you. Okay guys, see you later. Bye-bye. Stella's hungry. Be brave, be safe, Crusher. You got it. Thanks, Ali, Josie, Goldie, Marianne. Yeah, you guys, check out meaningwave.com. Meaningwave.com. That's Akira's, um, account. Okay, that's where you can purchase the Akira music too. We just want to give him a little shout out. All right, bye guys, love you. Bye, Crank, Neuro, Bookish.