The Scott Adams School - 08/05/26 Jeff Joins Us. DSA. Iran. Islam and more

Yes.

Interesting. Okay, tell me who you see.

Oh, Bookish, good morning.

Looks like it's Gracie.

Gracie's first. Sorry, you guys, I didn't pre-start the show, so we have to— we're just going to kill some time so everybody could come in, which is fine. And we have Jeff today. So good. He's hello. So, you know what? Maybe I'll impress you now, Jeff, while we're waiting for people to come in.

Okay.

So, you know, Jeff is a gardener and a chicken egg raiser.

Yep.

Chicken daddy.

Chicken daddy.

Chicken go turner.

Chicken daddy. So, look, I didn't get zucchini. I didn't think I was going to get any because I only have one plant and whatever. But Look at my zucchini.

That is impressive.

Wait, there's more. Let me turn— oh, let me hit this.

You just made a meme, Erica.

Oh, I'm about to make another one.

The zucchini that launched 1,000 memes.

Wait till you see my cucumber.

Whoa.

My goodness.

And that is against my giant Zoshirushi bottle. Look, they're like the same size. Same. Is that crazy?

The next level out is going to be like the planet, uh, Saturn.

But look at these. I mean, the cucumber won't— go ahead, screenshot.

That's, that's a thumbnail right there.

But the cucumber won't be good. It's way too big. I didn't see it. It was at the bottom of the plant covered by the leaves, and I'm like, why, why wouldn't it be good?

Because it's big.

It's too big. Like, they get like It's never too big. But anyways, there's your meme, people.

I like it.

Thank you, Marcella.

Impressed. Oh my gosh, somebody already made one.

Oh, Jesus.

Yep.

You should be very proud.

I am proud. I feel like if I was in 4-H, I would win something. That's just me. But I really wanted to impress Jeff that I too can grow something.

Yay.

You absolutely can.

Yes.

Very impressive.

Wow.

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Mmm. Was that delightful? Oh, and what were you saying? I'm sorry.

It was.

I was just about to say that I think you're going to end up having a lot more zucchini and a lot more cucumber, if you don't already.

But I have so many zucchini in my fridge, I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do with it. I have to give them away.

It's traditional to chuck them at cars when you have too many. That's the traditional thing.

Don't, because I will. I love mischief. So, if anyone ever wants to go out with me on mischief night, I ask every year. Mischief night is the night before Halloween here in America, and you're supposed to go, not you're supposed to, but you go out and you create just a little bit of light mischief, like you toilet paper someone's car and stuff like that. But I love that stuff.

So, yeah, I just, I think you, you, you also just have to really be diligent about harvesting them because if you forget about a zucchini and you come back a week or two later, you've got baseball bats.

A week?

Talk about a day. Like the growth overnight is insane. But I only have one plant, but it's fine. It's all good. You guys in the chat are so funny. Okay, so don't ask me why. Oh, by the way, good morning. I'm Erica here at the Scott Adams School. So sorry. And I'm joined today by my two extraordinary co-hosts, Marcella and Owen, and our favorite cousin, Jeff Callahan, is back to co-host with us today, which we love. So thanks.

Always good to be here.

Thanks, Jeff. Um, oh my God, the memes are starting. It's hilarious. Okay, so, uh, I came across a little clip yesterday and I kept going like, I was so confused, I don't know why, and I was so disturbed that I thought, I think the Sippers would like this too. Like, who doesn't want to be confused and disturbed, right? Um, so I just wanted to play this clip for you. This is the Austrian tongue choir. Yes, I said tongue. Performing Moscow Nights in 1982. They kind of look a lot like our Congress and Senate, don't they? Anyway, it's so weird. I was like, what the heck is happening here with these serious faces? Have any of you ever been in a tongue choir?

I have not.

I haven't had the pleasure.

It looks like it's male exclusive, and everybody had like a different technique and a thing happening.

I think I saw one guy that wasn't doing anything.

I think he might have been humming is what I was thinking.

He must have been.

He might have been the hummer.

He wandered into the wrong room.

He was the hummer of the tongue choir. Oh my gosh. Okay, you guys.

Who had the best tongue technique?

The old guy with the serious face.

Yeah.

That guy.

Yeah.

Years of experience.

Yep. Yep. I know he's probably been doing that for a long time. So anyway, you guys, there actually is no theme to this show. It just started off really strange. So anyway, oh my gosh. Um, okay, you guys, so on a more serious note, for real, uh, let's get to some news. So did you know that there was a potential assassin thwart, uh, yesterday? Take a listen to this. You know, poor President Trump. Let's take a listen.

For real, man arrested outside Trump's Los Angeles golf course, which is in Palos Verdes, right on the ocean. It happened, uh, Sunday, just ahead of the president's visit there this week. 38-year-old Janine John Tyell is the name. Janine John Tyell, potential trans, we don't know, allegedly taking photos and videos of the club, appearing to monitor security. He was found to be carrying hollow point ammunition with a loaded weapon in his car. Search of his home found more weapons, body armor, high-capacity ammunition magazines, and notebooks that police say had concerning statements. Amy, this was just like what we saw at the West Palm Beach golf club that the president plays in the winter. You had the guy staked out there waiting, and they just caught him right before the president got to that hole and stopped him from being shot. It sounds like potentially another case of that.

Yeah, this is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, here we are on the heels of the White House Correspondents' Dinner where they, you know, could have had a potential assassination. You've got Mar-a-Lago You've got Butler. I mean, we are looking at a president with some of the most, most assassination attempts on his life. And this is just showing us where we have gotten in this country. It's absolutely ridiculous. We've got so much violent rhetoric that is coming from the leftists in the media, Democrat leaders themselves. And it is time for these people to be held accountable because their words have consequences. And we are seeing that time and time again.

It's a miracle that he's still alive, is the truth. It really is. Amy, thanks so much. We appreciate it. We'll follow the breaking news, of course.

I agree, it is a miracle he's still alive. I never just— we are at like peak insanity in this country. Um, Jeff, as our guest, I'll come to you first. I mean, you know, I can't imagine being anyone even in the administration walking around, even Trump's family and his closest administration, um, you know, like Rubio and Van— everybody, Stephen Miller, I would imagine, you know, But what are we doing?

Yeah, it's like, what are we even doing here? It's getting to the point where you just lose, lose count of the near misses and the really near misses, right? And, you know, thinking about— I mean, I've said this before, I think I've said this before on this show, like, like the rhetoric that people on, on the left typically Espouse is very, very much stochastic terrorism in some cases where they are making all these very thinly veiled references to Trump, let's just say, having really bad health problems imposed by another person. Right. And this has been on repeat for 10 years, 11 years, however long at this point. And of course, you're gonna get some segment of the population that can't deal with it and snaps and starts taking pictures of security, walking around golf courses, gets body armor, hollow points, and just what looks like an orgy of evidence at their place of residence. Kind of the larger issue is, and I never hear this talked about, is if you are a person who is notable and famous, just by virtue of people knowing you, there's going to be a fraction of a percentage that wants to do you harm, and it has nothing to do with what you say. That's what people don't realize. Uh, now take Trump, who is probably the most famous person in history, uh, and then take media, the media layer on top of it, on on the left, uh, you are tipping people who ordinarily would probably just be shrugging, and instead they're loading guns. And, uh, yeah, it's, it's, it's an incredibly scary situation. Um, but shout out to law enforcement for, uh, you know, snapping this guy up and saying like, look, what are you doing? What are you doing out here taking pictures? What are you doing? Like, let's look at your residence. And, and, uh, seeing that, oh, turns out there's a lot of stuff there. Uh, and so really important that we stay very vigilant, uh, in these crazy times.

I agree. Marcella, I don't know that they found, found out that this person's trans. I think maybe he just had the name Janine. I'm not sure yet, but nothing surprises me anymore.

No, you know, they showed a picture of him. He didn't— the picture they showed didn't look trans, but you know, maybe trans is like a feeling, so I don't know. And it also might be that if he was named Janine by his family Maybe there's an issue, uh, that he's had for a long time. Um, a lot of these people are, are just obsessed, uh, and depressed, and mental health is a major issue. Um, you never know. Um, but I'm glad he was caught. And one of the things that, that President Trump is like, that he was asked why, like, he was going to do the event, um, you know, still going ahead with it. He's like, why wouldn't I do this? He also said that it gives him solace because what people are trying to stop him is because he's consequential.

Yeah, I have that.

So yeah, yeah, so that I loved. Um, you can never stop, never stop the Trumper.

So, Owen, Yeah, I mean, to me this is just a continuation. I know we've talked about this a number of times before.

It's—

it is all true that they're, they're causing people to do this with the rhetoric. The media is behind a lot of this as far as the root cause. And my concern, in my estimation, um, you're gonna have some element of people that are mentally ill or over the edge enough that they're gonna take action on it. And, and by now it— they can't say they don't know. They can't claim ignorance. They're doing it on purpose. And, and if they continue to do it, they're again doing it on purpose, and they're hoping it'll happen. And I do think that Trump is such a unique personality and a force of nature that it does make him more susceptible to this than many past presidents or other politicians, because a lot of other politicians are kind of like replaceable. Like, you know, if you got rid of some of the past presidents, it's like the vice president would be pretty much the same. And, you know, you wouldn't necessarily get a better result and, and, or a different result. And it would kind of just be because in most cases in the past, the president was just a voice for the party. It would just do what the party wanted. And so if you took that person out and put someone else in, it would be pretty much the same. I mean, certainly that was true with Biden because he wasn't even really there to be the voice. But, um, in many cases it's just like that, but it's not with Trump, right? If, if Trump was killed, that would be a massive difference. And, you know, whether it was Vance, you know, that took over, like, that would just change a lot. And I don't know whether the left would like it more or less because he may end up being even more conservative in some cases than Trump is, because I frankly think Trump is kind of liberal, at least according to the definition from the '80s and '90s of what a liberal would be. Vance might not be that way, you know, so they may actually get something worse than they're hoping for. Yeah, this, but I think it certainly would be a difference, right? Because you wouldn't necessarily have that Trump personality, that Trump persuasion, all the things Scott Adams talked about that makes Trump so exceptional. And so I think that also makes him a target. And I, you know, I think there are maybe a few personalities on the left that are like that. Mom Donny comes to mind. But very few, right? Most of them are just interchangeable. They're all saying the same stuff. You wouldn't— it wouldn't really matter if you got rid of one of them because you would just plug in another one and it would be the same. And that's even true for some of these radical DSA people, you know. They're all kind of just saying the same thing, talking to the same platform. It's not about the person, it's just about the platform and the party and what's behind that. So I think that makes it an even bigger threat, and we need to be very careful about it. And I'm hoping he does have great Secret Service protection and that we're on top of it from the FBI. And it does seem like they're doing a pretty good job so far, knock on wood. But, you know, this is probably going to keep happening, unfortunately. And I hope, yeah, we'll stop, but I don't really expect them to.

They're doing a good job until they're not one time, God forbid. So, you know, you pray for that. And I, and I want to say, you know, Janine isn't a fully unusual name for a man, but the reason why you, you just tend to think trans is because there's been so many trans terrorists, and shooters. So it's not unusual to, to think that. And I was looking at your, you know, you guys, your comments. And yeah, the media, Owen, is so culpable in all of this, and they just fuel it even with their, their, their expressions, the questions they ask, the way they disrespect anyone in this administration when they're talking. Like, we just saw Dana Bash so disrespectful to RFK Jr. the other day. And it's like, wow, like, where do you get off? And it just makes people that hate the Trump administration hate them even more and feel like they have reason to, because look, the media does too. And I want to be on the side of these people. So it's scary. Now, Trump did respond, like Marcella said, that he's consequential, but he also took the opportunity to just say one quick thing and move on to talk about Iran. So we're going to pivot to just try to do an Iran update. It's impossible. Um, but let's listen to President Trump and then we'll go to Marcela on the other side.

There was a threat.

There was a man who was arrested, seemed to be heavily armed, near the property here on Sunday.

Is it—

it's an ongoing concern, sir. Talk about that for briefly.

Well, the only thing I get a little solace from is they say only consequential presidents, and I am definitely consequential. I mean, if you look at the economy, if you look at what's happening, Iran, as an example, will never have a nuclear weapon. They already can't, but they'll— it's going to be formal. The strait's going to be open very soon, or they're going to get hit very hard and then the strait's going to be open. We were going to a tremendous attack, the biggest since World War II. And they called me and said very politely, please, can we talk? Can we talk? They didn't want. And I said, yes. We can talk. Let's get it done. Finally, let's get it done. This should have been done by other presidents for 50 years. You know, you keep hearing '47, but that's been for 3 years now. It's been over 50 years. Other presidents or other countries should have been able to do this. And I did something that I had to do, because if they had a nuclear weapon, this whole world would be a different place.

If they back out again, are they done?

Well, if they back out again, they're going to get hit really hard. You know, they know that. They understand that. I have no choice. They can't have a nuclear weapon. It's very simple. It's not like, gee, let's think about something else. No. It should have been done by many presidents over many years, and it wasn't. And I'm doing it. Obama was taken to the cleaners. He thought he could bribe his way out. He gave them billions, tens of billions of dollars so stupidly. $1.7 billion in cash, green cash. On a Boeing 757, an airplane loaded up with cash. They probably looked at it, they said, you got to be kidding. Uh, no, you can't bribe your way out. All you can do is fight your way out. And if they didn't, they wouldn't be talking if we weren't doing what we're doing. We hit them very, very hard, but the hard hit is yet to come, and hopefully we won't have to use it. I hope we won't have to. We're having very good discussions. They don't like to admit that, but, well, you know, It's a little bit disconcerting. You tell people like you, we're having wonderful discussions, and then some guy will come out of Iran and say, we have not met, we have not— it's just such a lie. All day long, you understand, it's just incredible. We didn't talk— they'll say, we didn't talk about nuclear. Well, what are we talking about? We're sitting there twiddling our thumbs, right? So, but it doesn't matter. That's talk. The only thing that matters is action. And they want to make a deal. We'll see what happens. Deal, it's going to be too bad.

Okay, so Marcel, I'll just let you take it because there's really nothing to queue up for you on this. Just what are we doing?

So Iran keeps saying that there is no talks with the US, and then Trump— President Trump is always saying there's talks, um, and there's a deal coming. I'm not sure who is doing what, but it does create, um intrigue, because in Iran, you know, it's a new government, new people, you know, maybe somebody is talking to him, you know. It kind of creates this intrigue that kind of splits them apart, which is great. It's part of his, uh, persuasion. Then we can't really believe what Iran says anyways, because what they're doing it is for their audience. But what we do know is that Iran and Oman, um, the country of Oman, are having talks in regards to the Strait of Hormuz and Both countries are saying that there's positive progress, but the positive progress, quote unquote, is that under the— there's an emerging framework that they're creating. The vessels entering the Persian Gulf would use a channel controlled by Iran, and with those near the— near Oman. And so everything's obviously going to have to go through all the other countries, and I'm sure the other countries are not going to like that Iran is controlling any channel whatsoever because before the war there was no control. However, the— it's progressing in the positive direction because the markets were really high yesterday, and I don't mean, uh, they were doing really great. Most of it was AI-related, but the oil market is going down in prices. So because they're— it's positive, um But again, we always have this thing where in the middle of the week we have deal talks, and then right when the oil market closes, Trump goes, oh, we might drop some bombs. So, you know, it is what it is.

Okay, so good, good synopsis here. So I'm going to play one more clip. This is from Trey Yinks this morning. So let's hear what his, like, official narrative is, and then, um, Owen, I'll come to you first, and then Jeff. An announcement that could come as soon as today.

Foreign correspondent Trey Yanks joins us live in Tel Aviv with the details.

Trey.

Yeah, hey guys, good morning. President Trump indicated that a deal with Iran could happen as early as today. Speaking with Fox News, the president said that talks took place all day on Tuesday and that things are looking very good. He told Trace Gallagher what will happen if the Iranians back out of this agreement.

Other presidents or other countries should have been able to do this, and I did something that I had to do because if they had a nuclear weapon, this whole world would be a different place.

If they back out again, are they done?

Well, if they back out again, they're gonna get hit really hard. You know, they know that. They understand that. Uh, I have no choice. They can't have a nuclear weapon. It's very simple.

The focus remains on the Strait of Hormuz, a critical international waterway that handles roughly roughly 20% of the world's oil and LNG trade. CENTCOM released a statement saying the southern route through the Strait of Hormuz remains free and open for all commercial vessels seeking to transit the international waterway. The statement goes on to say, over the past 3 months, US forces have assisted more than 1,000 vessels in successfully transiting the strait despite unwarranted Iranian aggression, and these transits continue today. Right now, talks are ongoing between Iran and with Oman aimed at reaching an understanding on control of the strait. The issue remains a primary objective even for Iranian civilians speaking about the conflict.

We must definitely keep the Strait of Hormuz at any cost. We should never abandon it and we should never back down, even if they make harsh threats against us, even if they threaten to launch a ground or air attack against our country.

We're also tracking reports of explosions explosions in Dubai that sits along the Persian Gulf. It's unclear if this was an Iranian attack or something else.

Guys, Trey Ying's live for us in Tel Aviv. Trey, thank you. The Fed's arresting—

Wow, imagine, you know, you're an Iranian civilian and you're just like, yeah, even if they launch, you know, weapons at us and ground attacks, we should never give that up. That's pretty courageous and amazing. And is it propaganda? I don't know. Ellen, what do you think?

But yeah, probably. I mean, I think everything you hear out of this is probably propaganda depending, you know, no matter who's talking. But I think to me it's the context I would put around it is it's more of the same. It's still Schrödinger's war. You don't really know what's happening or what's going to happen next. And the way I would look at this particular thing is, oh, there's a deal. It might happen today or tomorrow. But they also specified it's a deal to open the Strait of Hormuz. It's not a deal. To end the war. It's not a deal to give up nuclear weapons. It's just to open the Strait of Hormuz. And so this is just like one more step in the process. And it's really just like a step that they've been taking back and forth for weeks or months now. So I don't really see this being the end. I wish it was. I'd love it to be the end, but it doesn't really seem like it's heading in that direction right now. And I really personally wouldn't expect this to last. You know, they may make some deal and they may say, okay, now the Strait of Hormuz is open. But we've seen this probably half a dozen times already where they've said, okay, it's open now, and then some ship gets hit by somebody. So I don't really trust this.

So, Owen, I have a question for you, just if you can answer it. So I'm looking in the chat. So for the people that say like, never underestimate Trump, you know, 4D chess, How do you feel about that?

Well, I, I mean, I do trust Trump and I think he's the best person to make these kinds of deals of any president we've had in recent history. But at the same time, I think this is just a really difficult situation. It's not like Venezuela where you can just go in and do whatever you want. It's not even probably as simple as Israel and Gaza. I think this is a very difficult situation and I think it's the reason why most other presidents have shied away from really doing anything. And it probably was also why when we originally took action, it was just to drop some bombs and take out a nuclear facility as opposed to trying to do this sustained war sort of thing. I think it's a very difficult geography to deal with in terms of doing any kind of ground invasion or holding any kind of territory or— and when you can't do that or it's very difficult to do that, then you're, you're stuck with just what bombs can we drop and what damage can we do? But then you can't sustain it. You can't hold it. You can't really take over or do anything like what we did in Iraq, where it was relatively easy. But I think that's because the geography was so different and the military wasn't as strong as it is in Iran. But, um, I just think it is a difficult situation. It would have been a difficult situation no matter who was trying to do it. Um, and we can all debate whether or not we should have ever done it to begin with, but we're here, we're, we're doing it now. So I think it is important to finish the job in terms of making sure there isn't going to be a nuclear weapon anytime soon. So I get that. But I also really would love it to be over. So yeah, it'll get there soon.

Yeah. So, Jeff, I don't know, you know, and I'm not trying to put you on the spot because you might not know this either, but I mean, I heard that we're just about out of missiles and this and that, like we have really depleted what we have and You know, and then Trump's like, you know, we're really going to get them this time and we're, you know, we're going to really unleash on them. Like, so what kind of bombs do we have left? I'm thinking I know of one massive one. Um, I can't imagine the one you don't want to use. Yeah. So I'm just like, you know, just what's your overall opinion on, on this topic?

Yeah, if I'm— and we need to fact-check this, but I'm, I'm fairly confident that I saw Pete Hegseth quote tweet a CNN screenshot where they were referencing the stockpile amount, and he said that that was false. And so my hunch is that probably any number that you hear of like, oh, we've depleted 60% of our thing, like my guess is that's probably not accurate, right? But the larger point that I think is important to keep in mind is simply that— and I'll be the first to tell you I'm not super across all the Iran stuff— but it strikes me that you have the IRGC and then you have whatever government they have, government remnants, like the fourth stringers, right? And so it, it is a very difficult situation trying to negotiate with that government. And then you have the IRGC just running around shooting bazookas and drones and, you know, kind of whatever they happen to have lying around at ships that are trying to transit the Strait of Hormuz. And so I think we're sort of caught in the cycle where we make some sort of shaky deal, someone sticks their finger in the pie and ruins it. That may not even be part of the negotiation., you know, uh, sort of segment of, of the government, right? Um, I— what I will say though is, is Trump's a— Trump's a merchant, right? He wrote Art of the Deal. He loves making deals. Like, if you left him out in nature, he would just be like making deals with squirrels and, and turtles in the forest, right? Uh, and so it's what he does, and this is like the ultimate deal of his entire career until the next biggest thing happens, right? And so he, he's the right person in the right chair. And, you know, whether or not you agree with the war, um, when— if you're already there, you, you need to finish it, get it done so that you can focus on domestic matters as quickly as possible, uh, especially we have the midterms coming up. I know we would like to see gas prices come down, uh, anything, anything to help in the midterms. And so it's going to be interesting to see how it all shakes out. But as Scott Adams would always say, fog of war. There's always a lot of half-truths and concealments, and we won't really know the whole story until 5 or 10 or 20 years down the line.

Yeah, probably right. So just because you brought that up, with, um, the prices of things. So I was saying to you guys yesterday that I feel like the Democrat Socialists of America, the DSA— let's just call them the Democrat Party now— um, I feel like— so I'm pivoting, we're pivoting from Iran because there's nothing left on that. So, um, I feel like their message is getting across to people because I was saying yesterday they're talking about the issues that are affecting everyday Americans, whether their solutions are right or not, they're talking about it and they're like, you know, we gotta make everything fair and prices have to come down and everyone's gonna have free this and free that, which we know is just insanity. And they're not socialists, they're pushing a communist agenda. I was listening, let's just listen to this clip and then Marcella, I'm coming to you. I just think that it's dangerous that we're not talking enough. Let's say the— not even want to say we— the Republicans aren't talking enough about our economy and like the reality of it. I feel like we're so distracted by so many things, and with elections going on and the socialists winning their primaries, it's crucial that, that they pivot now and just talk about America and Americans. But let's take a listen.

A lot of these young people see in him is a lot of the same thing that they saw, it sounds like, in Zoran Momdani. And while a lot of people kind of laughed him off originally, he is now the mayor of New York City. And I think what you're seeing happen is with these DSA and socialist candidates, they are speaking to the issues that a lot of these young Americans have right now. Now, the problem is their solutions, of course, are terrible, but they feel heard and they feel seen. And he's a cool guy. And unfortunately for Haley Stevens, she's got a bit of an accent and she kind of gets made fun of a lot of times online, so it hasn't really done her any favors. Um, but he seems to be the one with the, the energy behind him.

You know, it's so interesting because you watch what's going on with the strongest voices in the Democratic Party, John. You watch what's going on with the strongest voices of the Democratic Party, Marcella. So I guess the strongest voices now are the AOCs OCs. And then the old establishment people don't even— they don't even know what they stand for anymore because they're so intimidated by the socialists that they're all pivoting to pretend now that, you know, socialism is— it's fine, you know, it's not communism. Um, but I, I feel like there's not enough focus on Americans from the Republican Party. What do you think?

So they are— the, the Democratic Party is kind of facing the same thing the Republican Party was facing with MAGA. However, I would argue that it's different. The Tea Party, MAGA, whatever, we didn't want to like get rid of the Senate and all laws and all sorts of things. But for example, in Michigan, Hailey Stevens was the primary candidate for the Democratic Party for the Senate going against Abdul El-Sayed. And she was the like the moderate, I guess, candidate. And you see there, Fox called it at like 7 my time, 10 AM your time, um, for Abdul El-Sayed. And so basically you see them imploding. So they are afraid, um, the Democrats in general that are— have been in the party. But the main thing they accuse them of, which I agree with them, is that they're enriching themselves. Like somebody like Mike Rogers, somebody, somebody else that's been in Congress for a long time, they're just— you see their, their wealth grow, but you don't see anything in regards to your state or your city or whatever it is. So they have it— they're, they're the underdog, they're the Trump. Trump kind of, uh, would, would argue the same thing. MAGA would argue the same thing. The only issue with, with the whole thing is that they're offering free stuff— communism and all sorts of things— talking about affordability, talking about all the issues that everybody cares about in your daily life. Like, when you're, when you're in your daily life, you go to the supermarket, you, you pay your, your, your bills and all that, you're not thinking Iran. You're thinking, can I afford this I was at Trader Joe's the other day, and usually it's like $60 to whatever. It was like $150, and I'm like, I didn't even buy everything that I needed.

Yeah, no, we're all feeling it. We are all feeling it.

So, and that might be my state, you guys, because we have extra, extra taxes for nothing.

So I'm— no, I was just saying the other day, like, I think everybody's feeling it, and I'm so shocked shocked. I'm just like, how? I'm in a good position financially, okay, but I feel it. But what if you're just not, as most people aren't? They're just not, Jeff. So, do you think we need to pivot and focus?

Yeah, we need to pivot and focus to kitchen table issues. Like, to quote James Corville, I can't believe I'm going to do this, "It's the economy, stupid." It's like, that's always going to win because think about what's important to just average everyday people. It's not some country who may or may not have nuclear weapons. Like, it's, it's like, that doesn't matter nearly as much as, oh, you're looking at the gas pump, holy crap, like, look at this, look at this that I'm paying at the gas pump, or for your groceries, or whatever it happens to be. And, you know, I just think back to, um, actually, I'll quote Spencer Pratt here. Scott Adams, the show's favorite new, new and upcoming persuader, the DSA, he calls it destroying society altogether. And it's like, as soon as I saw that, I was like, oh man, that's perfect. And so if you're the Republicans, you have one mission, and it's, it's to talk about kitchen table issues, because what's up for grabs is It's either going to be sort of America First MAGA or it's going to be DSA destroying society altogether. Yeah, they're— I think both, especially when you think about the younger generations, both younger generations, call it under 40 maybe, they see the existing system that's been in place for the last, you know, 30, 40 years. And they say that system's not working. And something's going to happen where a new system is going to supplant the old system. It's coming. There's nothing anyone could do to stop it. The question is, what will supplant the old system of sort of spoils and fraud and spending money like hand over fist and getting entangled in foreign wars? What's going to supplant that is one of two things. And I don't know about you, but I really don't want the DSA version of America because that's going to end with breadlines if you're lucky, and possibly mass starvation if you're very unlucky. So don't sign me up for that. I don't want it.

I don't want it. I can't. I don't, I don't like to be uncomfortable, you guys. I really don't. Owen, can you wrap this up? And then I have another clip for you guys.

Yeah, well, I certainly agree that we should be focusing on these domestic issues, affordability, as well as, you know, any economic sort of issue. And I do think the Iran war is working against us in that. But I do think there's still plenty of good things to talk about.. And I think as James Carville and others have pointed out, I think that, you know, the, well, and a lot of Republicans have pointed out that the DSA stuff is giving us plenty of ammunition. Like there's plenty of things to talk about that would give us fear persuasion and other really effective persuasion. Maybe we need to find ways to make it visual, but to show that this is gonna be a disaster if it's allowed to happen and it's gonna destroy the country. And so I think there's plenty of messaging that could be used. I'm not entirely confident or, you know, expecting that the Republicans in general are going to do a great job with it just because they haven't so far and haven't had a good track record with that. But I do trust that Trump knows all this stuff and he'll at least push us in the right direction. Um, so I'm hopeful, but at the same time, I'm— I wouldn't say I'm necessarily optimistic about our chances in the midterms. I think It's heading in a bad direction. I think the Iran war is part of that problem. I think the other is just that, you know, Republicans aren't— don't seem to be very confident or competent in terms of both messaging and in just getting out the vote. And it's not all bad news. And again, I don't really know how it's stacking up. I see stories in the news talking about how Republicans are all going to win and a bunch that are saying, you know, it's all going to go to the Democrats. And so I really don't know which way it's going to go. If I had to predict today, I probably would say we're likely to lose the House and we're likely to maintain control in the Senate. Senate, which means we'll have gridlock and nothing much will happen other than just a whole bunch of show trial sort of committees in the House. But, and probably some impeachments that will get rejected once they get to the Senate. But that, you know, that's just a guess at this point. I think everything's kind of up in the air.

Yeah, I agree. Um, I don't know if any of you guys had a chance to see the link I posted yesterday to Nate Friedman's Um, oh, wait a minute, hang on, let's see. Oh, okay, so thanks, John just sent me a, uh, Truth post, Truth Social post from Trump, says great news for the Republican Party. El Sayed, a communist loser who hates Jews and Israel, is the projected winner in this race with the socialist. As usual, the polls were way off on this one.

She—

oh, she was not expected to do nearly as well as she did. Now the Democrats' crazy policies will only get worse. Okay, um, say what you think, Trump. Okay, so, um, I, I agree, Owen, and I don't know that— it seems to me like the Republicans are singularly focused on one issue only, and it's It's not looking inward at the country, it's looking outward everywhere else. So I worry about that. But I don't know if you guys got to see, Nate Friedman put his documentary up for everybody to look at. It's the Islam— no, what did he call it? It's about Islam taking over Dearborn, Michigan. And also he released another one today about the same issue happening in Brooklyn or the Bronx? I'm sorry, I don't know which one, but please follow Nate Friedman. I was messaging with him yesterday. He's thrilled that we're talking about everything on here. Um, I just want to show you one clip. Okay, so think about Michigan, right? We used to build cars there and it was like thriving and like beautiful neighborhoods and good schools and everything you'd want for your American lifestyle. I think there are 46 6th now out of 50 in education. Um, they— Dearborn in particular is being run amok now with Islam, and that's the plan with the socialists slash communists, uh, people that don't like capitalism, let's put it that way. And they want everyone to be on the same playing field, although they don't. So this is just, you know, a few minutes, but I want you to really see— imagine you're going grocery shopping, okay? Bad enough with the food prices like we said, but imagine really that this is your local grocery store. Picture the store you always go to, okay? And now imagine this is what it is.

If you were to do grocery shopping here in Dearborn, this is what you would see. In my 2 years of reporting on the ground, this is the most shocking footage that I have ever taken. Our country is becoming unrecognizable.

Unimaginable.

I will play this footage without commentary and let you experience it as I did.

Thank you.

Okay, for your—

Halal marshmallows. You can see that you'd be a fish out of water here, I guess. Best in your own country. You probably also noticed how almost every mother had at least 3 young children with them, so you'd be naïve to think that this stops at Dearborn. You see an American flag at the front to disguise assimilation, but the workers' uniform has Arabic on it, and the products are being imported from Yemen, Lebanon, and Iraq. Now I wanted to speak to more people to see who they're voting for, but every interview I got, I was denied 10 10 times from people who don't speak English. I will be bringing an Arabic translator with me in the future, which is a testament to the direction we're heading.

I speak English.

It's kind of crazy, Owen. Um, you know, imagine going to your grocery store in a year or two from now and that's what you're faced with. What do you think? Can you guys not hear me?

No, I, I can hear you. Um, it, it's— I think it's kind of amazing, um, and scary. Um, but I, I don't know. I mean, you know, I, I could take the other side of it and say, well, it's just an ethnic neighborhood, you know. It's an extreme example. Like, if you went to a Mexican neighborhood, it would be all, yeah, you know, people, you know. If you went to film that If we went to Chinatown, it would be all, you know, Asian people. So I, I do think it's, you know, not, not necessarily as extreme or as widespread as you, you know, as they're making it out to be. But, you know, I do think that Dearborn is a big problem, and it's not really just that everybody's wearing their, you know, headscarf things, but it's just that like they're, they are very anti-America. I mean, I posted a story today about some video. I don't know if you saw that clip, but it was like they were chanting death to America. Like, it's basically an insurrection. Like, it, that's a real insurrection. Like, that, you know, you have a town in America where everybody's chanting death to America. Like, that, that to me is the problem. It's not just people are wearing headscarves in a grocery store.

It's just— but Owen, I, I have to interrupt you because, um, there's a difference between the people in Chinatown or Little Mexico, whatever you want to call it, their ideology. They're, you know, they, they have same types of like morals and values that we do. These people, like you said, are chanting death to America. They want to kill us and they want to rid us of, you know, being here. So, you know, to say it's not as widespread, I think it's like where I was saying, like, you know, we say it's a slow-moving disaster. That entire grocery store in Dearborn, it's huge, and it's now taken over by their food, their writing, their culture. You go in there, no one's speaking English. I mean, it's a problem, and it is popping up everywhere. And, you know, I just saw somebody just posted that Vero Beach, Florida, which is like just like this, like, old white area is now going to be getting some kind of huge Islam city there. And then I was just watching last night in Mooresville, North Carolina, they had like a— I don't know what you would call the meeting, but like all of these people showed up and they were like, you cannot put a giant mosque here, you know, because like what the mosques do, it's like their military center, their recruiting center. They can plot and plan. They have their own like laws in there, and it just spreads out from there. So I I just feel like it's a slippery slope and I, I, I get nervous to downplay it because I think it's bigger than people are really realizing.

I agree with you. I'm not trying to downplay the whole situation. I was just pointing out that that particular footage, my reaction to it was like, that part isn't necessarily the issue. It might be an indication of the problem indirectly, just that it's so concentrated. And I do think that's part of the problem is that if you took took all those same people and just spread them out all over the country in little bits and pieces, it probably would lead to a lot more assimilation because they would be with a lot of other people. They'd meet a lot more Americans. They'd meet— they'd see more of our culture, and they might have more of a chance of doing it, you know, getting assimilated. But I think— and I do think part of the problem is that when you put them all in one place, like the Somali community in Minnesota and Dearborn, Michigan, then they don't assimilate. They just— they're— it's like a little pocket of whatever country they came from. And they never assimilate, and they don't even show any interest in assimilating, but they're not even around people to assimilate with. So I think that is one of the mistakes that was made by whoever let all these people in, is putting them all in one place and letting them basically take over a portion of the country and then have government control of those portions of the country. And it, it is anti-assimilation, essentially. So I, I don't know how intentional it was, but I have to imagine there might have been some intention behind it, and I think it, it is something that we shouldn't do. So I'm not downplaying the problem. I agree with you completely on that. And I just think the, the real problem is you have this concentration of people that are anti-America and that don't have any exposure or even interest in assimilating into American culture or American values or our system.

And yes, the birth rate between, uh, Muslims and Americans or anyone else, really, it's like staggering. So like he pointed out, you know, each woman there had like 3 or 4 kids in her cart with her. Um, but okay, so, um, Jeff, your thoughts?

Yeah, I was just trying to think of an analogy. Uh, so say that you, you are a very accommodating roommate and you, you get a new roommate off of Craigslist and, and they come from a culture that that is antithetical to your culture, but you're a very nice person. And they start throwing parties at your house and forcing you to eat certain foods and all this kind of stuff. The more aggressive and persistent roommate is always going to win versus the roommate who is very passive and accommodating. When we're talking about immigration, I think of the stories I've heard of immigration as it was in say the early 20th century where you would have people from Italy or France or Europeans coming over, and in many cases they wouldn't even allow their children to speak the old language, and they would say, "Well, no, you're in America now. You have to I want you to fit in in America. I want you to thrive in America. And so when there is immigration with no intention of assimilation, when there are enclaves that will no doubt eventually, as they have in, I think, Sweden, lead to police no-go zones, when you have those kind of situations pop up, either intentionally or unintentionally, something is deeply broken. Assimilation should be the goal. And if you're importing a culture that does not want to assimilate, what will happen in 10, 15, 20, 25 years? Well, nothing good if you are the sort of the host country, if you will. And so, and I say all this, you know, kind of feeling a little bit of discomfort saying like, oh, people, people need to assimilate or get out. But that's kind of what I'm saying, actually. Uh, we have to have people assimilate to the American way of life, because if you get enough people who don't, then there will be no American way of life. It will, it will be, uh, you know, lost in the wind of time.

I agree. Okay, Marcela.

So what I saw in the video, because I did watch it is capitalism. I saw a supermarket, them buying everything from what they want to buy. In regards to them maybe not speaking to him, it's because of the language barrier. I think he said he was going to bring an interpreter to see next time he was going to be there. I know that that's— that infuriates Americans. When they have to use translators in their own country. But there's areas in LA still to this day where I go and, you know, they expect you to speak Spanish or, you know, or they expect you to speak Korean in Koreatown where I went to law school near— where I went to law school. And you're like, I don't speak Korean yet. I'm trying to learn. But, um, you know, so I've gone to supermarkets in, uh, Orange County and the Pasadena area. They're all Arabic, um, and they've treated me well, you know.

Okay, problem solved. They're nice.

Well, I'm just letting you know, like, that America is— to me, America, because I'm an immigrant, as you know, I think America is different people at different times, um, and I think eventually they'll assimilate. One thing about the United States— one thing about the United States, um, I let everybody speak, you guys, if you can, you know, let me speak. One of the things that I do admire about the United States that I did not admire about Germany is that we're allowed to segregate if we want but we're allowed to also live wherever we want. And I think like Owen said, and I think Jeff said, it's important to see that eventually the different generations are going to eventually assimilate. Yes, they're going to have their own religion, but as long as, you know, Mormons have their own religion, Hindus have Hinduism, Sikhs You know, you go to Orange County, there's a huge Sikh center, you know, but they're all part, they're all meshed together. And I think the, the thing that keeps us going is, is that in America there's no rules like there were in Germany where you couldn't live in those apartments because you were Turkish. You had to live over there, you know. So those things help. Um, I think in regards to what I think Owen said something about how they were saying, um, what did you say when you said something about destruction of America, down with America?

Yeah, I posted a clip today that had some kind of Dearborn, Michigan— I think it may have been some news story, but in the background or something there was people chanting like death to America, and it was in Dearborn, Michigan.

So to me that's like more of an insurrection than anything that happened on January If I go to a Whole Foods in West Hollywood, um, the same thing you would hear, death to America. Um, it's unfortunate, but I, I think that us separating away from, uh, Dearborn, from all these cities is not good. We need to, instead of separating, we need to go and you know, basically be there so that they see the difference. I just think that separation is not going to lead to anything.

So, okay, well, in my opinion, they're separating themselves from us, and you know, what are you going to do about that? They don't want to be integrated with the Americans. They're creating their own cities and, and keeping their culture there. So how do you get them to assimilate when everything we believe in disgusts them? Marcela.

I disagree. I don't think that they believe everything that we believe disgusts them. I think that just like anybody else, I see them as individuals. All of us, like, in our families, we want to do better. We want to have food on the table. Everything that would apply to a Chinese American family would apply to an Arab American family the same way. I think you need to treat people as individuals, and what they need is a future for their children. They want to not be at war. They want to have things that we all have, you know. So they do have the same— I mean, they even, they believe in Jesus, like they celebrate Christmas sometimes. Like in— if you go to the Arab world, you, you, you have celebrations of Jesus, uh, Mary, everything. So what I'm trying to say is look at them as individuals, not as a group. All of us want to do better. And the thing about El-Sayed and some of these other politicians is they're trying to turn this country into communism. And that's what you need to focus on, the politics. I don't believe that this, this supermarket owner would want to turn communist. I, I— the other— that he interviewed this, this man, I think his name was Jeff, uh, from Lebanon, and he had his own shop for like 70 years or something, or his family did. I don't think they want to turn communist. I think that's what you need to focus on. That, that's, you know.

All right, well, obviously we all have different opinions. Marcel, you got a lot of pushback in the chat. And that's fine. And that's okay. Like, we don't all agree on things. We see things differently. And, you know, maybe, maybe Marcella's perspective is because she is an immigrant and maybe it's a little bit different than ours. And I do love, Marcella, about you that you want to see everybody as an individual. I would like to be able to do that, but sometimes I just can't. And, you know, I don't know if that's a flaw or not. It's just just who I am.

But I think there is a real issue there that, like, I, I, I'm with Marcela that I would treat any individual person as an individual, but at the same time, there is a lot of group stuff and collective stuff that's going on here. Yeah, it's not just— that's not the only thing happening here. You have people that are treating this like a collective sort of thing where they're saying we want to have Sharia law, we want to have kind of an exclusive no-go zone where people can't go if they're not part of this community. Like, that's not American values, and and, um, it isn't an individual behavior, it's a, it's a group behavior, it's a collective behavior, and it's a cultural sort of thing. So I, I think we can't ignore that. We can't just say, oh, let's just pretend—

I'm not saying to ignore it. There is laws for that in the books already. If I'm trying to avoid— that's the thing, that America has the rules of you can't just like, uh, everybody has the laws apply the same way here. In certain enclaves in Sweden laws don't exist that would apply to other Swedes, you know. So that's the thing, um, the law would apply to all of them if they're trying to do Sharia law. That's not going to be allowed because that would go against the U.S. Constitution and against state law wherever they are. So what I'm asking for is enforcement. I don't see any enforcement. I, I don't see anything. There's a lot of, um, abuse of women in areas in Michigan under Muslim garb or whatever it is. They have, um, you know, they let their— these people out from prison, they're— you know what I mean? So there needs to be enforcement. I agree with Owen on that.

Yeah, we really do need enforcement. I mean, I think, you know what, Marcella, I think if I saw our laws and our Constitution being like fully upheld, like the judges were doing what they're supposed to do and the police could do what they were supposed to do, I might feel differently. But I don't see it. I don't see it enough. I see, you know, I see separate rules for so many different people. And so I don't feel good about it. But if, if everything was going according to law that we have now on the books, I'd probably feel a little better. I don't know. All right. Anyone, any last words on this?

Owen?

No, I think we've covered it.

Jeff, anything?

Yeah, I just— I like the discussion because it's important for us to, you know, see what other people think. And I think I can agree with Marcella that enforcement— I would like to see a lot more enforcement. Enforcement, because as soon as you start to have different standards for different people, well, that's going to be a problem.

Yeah. And by the way, and that goes both ways. So like, I don't want to see enforcement standards for different people, and I don't want to feel differently about people. Like, I don't want to, you know, feel one way about this person versus that person. But sometimes I feel like I feel backed into a corner and I and that's just how I feel. I can't help how I feel. Like, I don't want to have to be that way, but based on what I see and how I interpret it, that's my reaction. So I think that we, the 4 of us here, are a good representation of all sorts of different opinions. We come from different backgrounds, we live in different parts of the country. And, you know, it's, it's interesting. It's just interesting. But I love every one of you equally. All right, so thank you so much for the great conversation today, you guys. And the home team returns tomorrow. And Marcella, we hope that you kicked butt yesterday in court when you left. So I'm sure you did. All right, you guys, can we all have a closing smile? And then we will say thank you to Scott Adams and Shelley Adams for always allowing the show to continue. We appreciate so much being able to show up here and have fun discussions, silly discussions. We started off with giant zucchinis and cucumbers and ended with a nice spicy conversation. All right, you guys. So thank you to Scott and Shelley. Thank you to everyone here for showing up. And as always, a closing sip to our beloved Scott. And if you want to stay for an Akira song, I'll stay for one. And if anyone has to jet, you jet. Okay. To Scott.

Tschüss, Scott Adams.

Bye, guys.

Let's do— oh, let's do Beautiful World.

Although the science says that your happiness is not that affected by your environment, That's not true. Your happiness is totally affected by your environment. If your environment is a loving family, you don't think you'd be a little bit happier than if you were sitting all alone in your little apartment like some of you are? I think it's absurd to imagine that changing your situation, situation, situation won't make you happier. You don't think that going from poor, where you're, you're panicked about eating, to well-off, you don't think that would make you happier because you didn't have to worry about starving? Of course it would. I guarantee it would make you happier. So yeah, fix your physical exposure, meaning go outside, you know, make sure that you're around some beauty and that you're not looking at depressing gray things. I would even change my commute if it took a few minutes to go through a more attractive place. If you look at it every day, it's better to expose yourself to the attractive route than the fast industrial route.

Is it over?

It's over. I could listen to it all day. I know.

Which Akira album is that from?

That's a great question. I don't know. It's called A Beautiful Day.

A beautiful day. Look it up.

Yeah, he's so good, you guys. If you want to grab some Akira music, which we highly recommend, please go to meaningwave.com. And Akira loves that we're doing these songs every day. I was texting with him 2 days ago and he said there's going to be a couple of new songs coming, so I cannot wait.

Dude is a machine.

He's so good, and he covers like every kind of, um, vibe of music. So good, so good. Okay, you guys, so look, you guys are amazing. We love you. Group hug, and, um, everyone have an amazing day, you guys. All right, Owen, Marcella, Jeff, see you guys. You ready to go get them today?

I'm ready.

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Yeah, for sure. All right, guys, everybody have a beautiful day. Sorry.

See you guys, take care. Bye-bye.

All right guys, say your goodbyes. Oh, it's on the CD.

Yep.

You guys are so cute. Erica and Akira sitting in a tree. Oh geez, YouTube, what's happening over there? No fighting, no fighting. Bye, Goldie. Krusha, I love you guys. Marianne, everybody, thank you, thank you, thank you. Thanks, Patty.

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Bye, Chris. Flavor, you can't be late, you're going to get detention. All right, guys, bye. Thanks so much. We'll see you tomorrow. Have an awesome, awesome day. Have a beautiful day. Oh my God, you guys, one more vegetable appearance. Cucumber, zucchini. Could you die? Is that crazy? Like, I think I'm gonna— what animal will eat this outside? Like a— why are you sorry, Flynn Lizzie? Don't be sorry. I don't know why you're sorry. I don't know what to do, like who will eat that cucumber, but I'm gonna throw it out there. Isn't that crazy? I was cracking up. You're hot-blooded. Is that nuts, you guys? This is a cucumber. Wait, this is my water bottle and this is the cucumber. Wait, I have to hold them the same way. It's like almost the same size. Actually, it is without the lid. And it was like under a weed. It was under a weed, not a weed. It was under leaves at the bottom of the plant and I was pulling some weeds and I'm like, oh my God, is that a cucumber? Imagine if it was like another week, how much bigger it would have been. Okay. Talking about vegetables, here we are. A scratching post for Stella. That's hysterical. Oh, thank you. Thanks, Metal Seer. Oh, we're going to miss you tomorrow. I know. Yes. So if you missed the opening, I was showing off my veggies to Jeff because he has a garden, he has chickens, and he does like all that stuff. So cucumber dip. I think it's too big, you guys. I think if I cut it open, it's going to be like mostly seeds. That's what happens when they get too big like that. But okay. Okay, I digress. Um, get out there, you guys. Plant a cucumber plant. I'll see you guys tomorrow. Bye, guys. Love you.